Revolution's Graphics

[Demuwan]

I was wondering what people actually believe the revolutions graphics will be like? Irrespective of countless rumours. I believe it will have the same graphics than a xbox 360. *I soooooo wish they are better than that and can blow me away as much as the controller did*

[christophicus]

they should at least equal the 360 plainly because of how much longer it is coming out after the 360.

[Shazman]

Yes i agree ^^^^^^^^^ there is a quite a big gap between the two, but im still expecting "Slightly WORSE than an XBOX 360".

[Tailzo]

Slightly WORSE than an XBOX 360. Then it can be a lot cheaper... Hopefully?

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

About the same as the 360 id say.

[Shyguy]

ur forgetting what nintendo have done with cube mapping- aparrently beautiful grafics can be made with it so i say in between the 2

[demonmike04]

I dont care about the graphics. I just want a new way of gaming, without getting bored. Not a realistic Yoshi, weres the imagination after that?

[legend_of_matt]

This is actually difficult to pin point because of the "rumour" that nintendo has developed a way of creating stunning visuals without the need for a lot of a power.
So I believe its graphical outake is above that of the cube (think that would be obvious) maybe enough to reach the X360, but so that developers could have the tools to compare with the PS3 and X360 without comprimise.

[kav82]

I'm not too fussed but I'd imagine it'll be on par (not noticeable at least) with the Xbox360.

As long as the games look as good as Res Evil 4 (minimum) I'll be happy!

[gaggle64]

Iwata keeps saying that the Revos graphics will be great, if not quite as good as the opposition, and I am fully expecting to be reasonably impressed once we start seeing some Smash Bros or Metroid Prime 3 footage.

[White_Wolf]

It's going to be slightly worse on reg TV's and you will be able to tell a big difference when Xbox 360 and PS3 gamesa re running on HDTV's.

"When you hook the conosles up to a reg tv I don't think you will be able to tell a huge difference" Which means that you actually will tell a difference on reg TV's and a bigger difference on HDTV's.

[Enigma]

I dont care about the graphics. I just want a new way of gaming, without getting bored.

Same here. Graphics doesn´t make the game, it´s the playbility that´s most important.

[Smalldude76]

I'm all for the new control method, but I don't want to be ripped off with graphics. I'd expect around 360ish graphics on a regular tv (meaning the type 360 would have on a regular tv). If Nintendo can't give me at least somewhere close to that, I'm not holding out for the Revolution - it would truly be my second console choice.

[killer kirby]

as long as the game is good i will be fine

[White_Wolf]

Same here. Graphics doesn´t make the game, it´s the playbility that´s most important.
Gameplay doesn't make the game. You have to integrate great graphics with great gameplay to make a game good. Do you think you would have the same experience with Metroid Prime or RE4 if the GFX sucked? Everytime someone asks Nintendo about GFX they give you "None gamers don't care about GFX" which is true because they don't play games. Nintendo has to stop acting stupid and provide the best of both worlds instead of trying to sell the console on a new game play method.

[Pit-Jr]

Man, im tired of 3-D games. As long as the Rev dishes out plenty of super sharp 2-D games i could care less if theyre a lil underpowered. My feeling with this generation of graphics was, after 2 years , they felt stale, just like the N64 before it. After 2 years or 3 years of 360/Rev/PS3 graphics, theyre probably gonna feel stale too. Anyway im ranting, but please Nintendo, give me a 2-D sequel to Super Metroid (none of this Prime nonsense), Kid Icarus, and Punch-Out and ill be good to go for another 5 years

[Marshmellow]

lol first person to vote siginifcantly better than the competition

[White_Wolf]

Man, im tired of 3-D games. As long as the Rev dishes out plenty of super sharp 2-D games i could care less if theyre a lil underpowered. My feeling with this generation of graphics was, after 2 years , they felt stale, just like the N64 before it. After 2 years or 3 years of 360/Rev/PS3 graphics, theyre probably gonna feel stale too. Anyway im ranting, but please Nintendo, give me a 2-D sequel to Super Metroid (none of this Prime nonsense), Kid Icarus, and Punch-Out and ill be good to go for another 5 years
Why don't you get a DS if you want 2D GFX.

[Pit-Jr]

Why don't you get a DS if you want 2D GFX.


Good point, but i can only invest so much in these systems and my next purchase is gonna be a console. I really wanna see what these high-end consoles can do with 2-D other than ports and retro compilations. As good at these handhelds are, they arent for me, id rather play on the big screen anyday.

[Shorty]

Graphics aren't so important as higher performance levels. I want to be able to have bigger, more complex, more detailed rather than "looks more realistic".

[Enigma]

Gameplay doesn't make the game. You have to integrate great graphics with great gameplay to make a game good.

I understand well what you mean. It´s just that I put more value in gameplay than graphics. I´ve always been this way.

Do you think you would have the same experience with Metroid Prime or RE4 if the GFX sucked?

I don´t know that. Do you know that? You would probably say no. Those games could very much well be as good as they are with lower graphics.
We all have different opinions. Mine is that I put gameplay ahead of graphics.

[Konfucius]

I think good graphics aren't really important to create a great atmosphere, lot's of little details make a game realistic (lately played a game from 1996 and it felt realer than many up to date graphics games) still I hope that the graphics are on par or even better than the 360s - for me it's always interesting to see what the technology can achieve, particularly if you can get it at a reasonable price.

[ViPeR]

After seeing what the 360 is coming up with I can't say i'm too bothered about them. Anything will do as long as I get SSB online.

[Deku-Nutz]

Same here. Graphics doesn´t make the game, it´s the playbility that´s most important.

Very grown up to say that but you realise its completely untrue. Ocarina wouldn't be the game it is if it wasn't 3D, Resident Evil 4 wouldn't be half as popular if it still used Pre-Rendered GFX...

Graphics do a lot for a game, its just how they are used that counts.

[BeerMonkey]

after seeing the controller im not too bothered about the graphics as there as tehre crisp and not blurry etc im not to bothered.

More interested in seeing how the controller is going to be implemented into each game :)

[Enigma]

Very grown up to say that but you realise its completely untrue. Ocarina wouldn't be the game it is if it wasn't 3D, Resident Evil 4 wouldn't be half as popular if it still used Pre-Rendered GFX...

Graphics do a lot for a game, its just how they are used that counts.

As I´ve said previously: Everybody has different opinions and mine is that I like gameplay before awesome graphics. I´m NOT against great graphics, I´ve never said that, I´ve just state my opinion which is gameplay before graphics.

[taiq]

As long as they're not taking steps back, it doesn't bother me. I'd rather have a cheap console that's easy for third parties to develop for.

Realistically, there's not really a lot more you can do right now. Resident Evil 4 was fucking amazing, for the next few years you can only make minor improvements upon that.

[Hellfire]

What about the graphics being the same as the rest? Silly Demuwan
"Very grown up to say that but you realise its completely untrue. Ocarina wouldn't be the game it is if it wasn't 3D, Resident Evil 4 wouldn't be half as popular if it still used Pre-Rendered GFX..."
I think its quite obvious that no one ever argued about that, simply that MIND BLOWING GRAPHICS!11! arent essential to a game.

[*Dalco*]

between the 360 and PS3 me thinks

[Dragonsbane]

I beleive it is going to be way better than we expect. But actualy I would be happy if it is at least two times better than the cube itselve.

Graphics are allready good as far as I'm concerned. Just make the enviroment in the games more interactive. Than I'm one happy camper!!

Oh yeah bring on more RPG's and Adventure games

[knightendo]

there's been quite a few comments floating about that the rev will be less powerful than the other consoles, but ninty have yet to release ANY details on these. at the min they're blowing their trumpets about the amazing new controller... i think they have more surprises up their sleeves, after all they did say that the new "broadway" and "hollywood" chips would be the new "centre of home entertainment" or something like that before they concentrated on the details of the controller! maybe they just don't wana release all they're chickens yet before they're ready to hatch...?

[Shazman]

Yes i agree with Deku-Nutz, its very true.
But if a game had awesome gameplay but crap graphics, i would still play it,
but if a game had crap gameplay and awesome graphics i would'nt play it.

[Big Red]

me thinks power and graphics dont really matter that much any more its not like thers major jumps in in graphics like we used to see back in the day its just slight alterations witch make it a bit more realistic if i wanted reality i would stand out side and watch the world go by but if i want constent action i wont be going to the video shop to get the latest adition of arne blowing somthing up with a bazooka i want to do it my self! and as long as the controlls arnt as slugish as halo i will be doing it all day long-well night some of us have to work but the bottom line is game play game play people thats why most of us have stuck with nintendo. even the saga saturn had mor game play in its short lived life than the sex box

[Big Red]

right on shazman

[DiemetriX]

i'm sattisfied aslong as all games look as good as RE4 (and we all know they will look better than that) :)

[demonmike04]

Im happy the way the graphics are right now, do we realy need that much better? And yes, ive come to agree i did over-react about graphics not making a game, but it wouldnt put me off buying it even if it had gamecube graphics.
But its pretty much confirmed that games will have better graphics on revo than they did on cube.

[DCK]

I don't care if they'd be worse than the 360 or PS3 as long as it improves over the Cube acceptably. I would feel ripped off if the gap Rev <> Cube would be smaller than N64 <> Cube. I don't have worries about that, it's probably slightly under the Xbox 360 anyway.

[Peachie]

I DON'T CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS THERFORE I AM HARDCORE.

[Lox13]

They will be spectacular, Nintendo is innovative in almost every aspect of their company the graphics of the revolution will be revolutionary not as powerful but just the same look as PS3 and 360

[Stocka]

I find it amusing how everyone goes on about how they don't care about graphics, and how 'graphics don't make a game,' because despite being true in a way, when the first shots of Zelda Revolution are revealed people will be like OMG THE GRAPHICS ITS GOING TO OWN !!11!!

I believe Graphics don't automatically make a game good, but can help because they build to the atmosphere and setting, especially in adventures and RPGs.

[Hostile]

To be honest, the Gamecube was meant to be less powerful than the XBox, but I NEVER saw an XBox game that looked as good as some of my GC titles.

[DCK]

Exactly, Hostile, that's probably what we can expect. The Revolution will probably not be more powerful the 360 in raw numbers simply because of the price of the console, but by careful design and picking the right hardware balance (developers are already complaining about that since E3 with the 360 and PS3) you can get very far. It will never equal PS3, but that's just out of its league.

[rokhed00]

Couldn't give a toss, they could even take a step backwards for all I care, as long as the games are fun and play well, that's all that matters to me.

[mbnmac]

when people talk about gameplay they miss a specific thing

smooth gameplay

if something moves nicely, feels right and overall gives the feeling that you should get from the game, then the graphics are secondary
mario64, while the graphics were great for its time, it was the smooth and solid gameplay that made the game

the rev will easily be around the 360, and i'm willing to bet that even in HD, they won't be ALL that different, and i have seen a true HD set up, its nice, but not as great as everybody keeps trying to make out

[gaggle64]

I would like to sign up to the "graphics aren't the most imporatant thing in games" camp. Also, not a great deal of us are likely to obtain a HD TV within the next 5 years, so I'm not too bothered by the whole HD support thang. Do you have a HD TV? If you don't know, you don't have one. I don't think there's much point until more TV broadcasting and DVDs start going HD standard anyway.

[Fanelia]

Iwata stated that there woudln't be too much of a difference in graphs on-screen between revolution and the competition. But that same Iwata stated that there isn't too much of a difference between twilight princess and gear of war. So the man needs new glasses. Even thicker ones, made by some secret cave-Jap who has rather long eyebrows and posesses the scrolls of Japans most secret glass sharpin' techniques.

So, I polled for the lightyears ahead. I shall expect no less from a company on whom I have spend enough money to feed some twelve African villages for a series of months.

[DCK]

I would like to sign up to the "graphics aren't the most imporatant thing in games" camp. Also, not a great deal of us are likely to obtain a HD TV within the next 5 years, so I'm not too bothered by the whole HD support thang. Do you have a HD TV? If you don't know, you don't have one. I don't think there's much point until more TV broadcasting and DVDs start going HD standard anyway.
It doesn't hurt to add another plug.

Seriously, there's no downside to HD support; games are already rendered in higher resolutions than 1080i and if it's supposed to be connected to PC monitors as well it has to go far beyond the old 640x480 resolution. The plug might cost a couple of cents more to make per console, but if they're bothered by that, why do they put in monitor output?

We'll only be glad when we do have a HDTV in five years.

[xernobyl]

Who cares about graphics if you can play NES!?!?
Is there any game better than Nintendo World Cup (football)?
There is, but you get the point...