1ups Wii test (they were disappointed)

[DiemetriX]

The 1up show (http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3145462). Click the 09/15/2006 Episode.
We get to se them testing some games. And talking about them. Zelda with swordslashing looks soo amazing. Overall they wheren't so pleased with the Wii. But I think everything looks like a blast. Some foul language in this clip.

[blender]

Yeah saw this. Good episode. I think they are right. Not enough games that are particularly interesting at launch.

[demonmike04]

Downloading now...pretty big file too, how long is it?

[Phube]

Yeah saw this. Good episode. I think they are right. Not enough games that are particularly interesting at launch.

Hmmm, surely this is a very personal statement, and as such should be preceded/ended with "In my opinion".

Whereas in my opinion I really want (and will get) 3 launch titles, and would like about 3/4 more!! Isn't this enough for any sane (read 'non-millionaire') person!!!

[blender]

Hmmm, surely this is a very personal statement, and as such should be preceded/ended with "In my opinion".




"I think they are right." .... i.e. I think their opionion which seems to be .... "Not enough games that are particularly interesting at launch." is correct

In my opinion, you are nit picking which is boring

[DCK]

Can't be bothered to download it, but they can't possibly be dissappointed by the launch line up. Zelda, Splinter Cell, Far Cry, Red Steel... Best launch lineup ever I tell you.

[river_rage]

Hmmm, surely this is a very personal statement, and as such should be preceded/ended with "In my opinion".

Whereas in my opinion I really want (and will get) 3 launch titles, and would like about 3/4 more!! Isn't this enough for any sane (read 'non-millionaire') person!!!

Of course it's his personal opinion. Would he write it if it wasn't? I'm sick of that political correctness crap.

[DiemetriX]

You don't need to download it. Just stream it ^^

[demonmike04]

streamings shite..well with my computer. So i download.
Still downloading..need faster internet..

[Phube]

Can't be bothered to download it, but they can't possibly be dissappointed by the launch line up. Zelda, Splinter Cell, Far Cry, Red Steel... Best launch lineup ever I tell you.

On this DCK, I can agree with you!!

[Kurtle Squad]

6 Hours? F off!!

[Caris]

I have a bad feeling about the Wii, i know IGN and Gamespot were also un-impressed when they tryed it a few month back.

[Phube]

Of course it's his personal opinion. Would he write it if it wasn't? I'm sick of that political correctness crap.

It's not PC, it's just a bug-bear of mine, people who state opinion as fact!! Just annoys me...

[DiemetriX]

I have a bad feeling about the Wii, i know IGN and Gamespot were also un-impressed when they tryed it a few month back.

I also feel doubt building up inside me. Hurry Nintendo, playing is beliving.. right? I wanna belive!

[Kurtle Squad]

I have a bad feeling about the Wii, i know IGN and Gamespot were also un-impressed when they tryed it a few month back.

Actually..didn't IGN just dislike some of the Red Steel & Metroid controls?

[Caris]

The main thing that really worrys me is look at zleda shaking your hands etc i think they will ache to hell after an hours worth of playing...

[Colin]

The 1up show (http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3145462). Click the 09/15/2006 Episode.
We get to se them testing some games. And talking about them. Zelda with swordslashing looks soo amazing. Overall they wheren't so pleased with the Wii. But I think everything looks like a blast. Some foul language in this clip.
Considering that all of them except one had had extensive play time with the console at E3, then it makes sense for them to come out with these comments.

Software wise though (except Zelda), it looks really weak for must-haves at launch.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Actually..didn't IGN just dislike some of the Red Steel & Metroid controls?

Red Steel and Metroid controls, yup. And latest build of Metroid fix'd that.

[Owen]

Perhaps Nintendo's approach of keeping it a secret for so long and releasing little snippets every 8 months has had a slightly bad effect and makes playing the Wii for the first time a Anti-Climax after wating so long?

I reckon the more you play with it the better it gets. I'm hoping it's not a unatmospheric experience, espicially Zelda.

I'm not that worried, i reckon i love it.

And the launch line-up ain't that bad. It's missing Metroid and Smash Bros though, but i keep being told Nintendo can't release all there games at once. Warioware (even though it's coming out a week or so later) should have made day one, but i'm nit picking now.

Although i thought this would be for the best? Just go into launch with all guns blazing?

It's not like thats it for Nintendo games! We still have Disaster, Project Hammer, ForeverBlue etc...

[Pit-Jr]

something i noticed in the video, despite all the sacrasm and price bashing, theyre actually laughing and shouting while they play and commenting on every little movement. Whether they want to admit it, theyre having a good time

Fast forward to the God of War 2 hands-on, they seem really emotion-less when they talk about it, even though they dont have anything bad to say about it

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Although i thought this would be for the best? Just go into launch with all guns blazing?

It is pretty stupid thing to do from pure business standpoint. If you put too many major titles into launch, they simply cannibalize each others sales and make 3rd parties life even worse. This is especially true for Nintendo which must prove 3rd parties that their games can also sell well on Nintendo's new console. If you release games in steady pace, you give players something to wait for each month and give more breathing space for 3rd parties.

[gj15987]

Seems they think the Wii is shit apart from Zelda. Especially the hairy bloke lol.

[Dcubed]

What do the 1up guys say about the games? (Can't be bothered downloading it :p)

Personally I think the Wii has a great launch lineup (My personal picks)

Twilight Princess
Trauma Center SO (Have to use the game's spelling :angry:)
Excite Truck
Wii Play (Not for me since I'm picking up a US Wii, though I'm definately getting this one once it comes out)
Red Steel (If the game sorts out it's controls)
Super Monkey Ball BB
Rayman RR
Elebits (If it gets decent reviews, I like the look of this one but I'm not 100% sure)

That's a great launch in my book! (Even without MP3, SPM and SMG)

[Dante]

I heard that 1up are sony fanboys.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Especially the hairy bloke lol.

The hairy bloke is 1UP's own Xbox fanboy and is known for raising controversy just for sake of it. Attention whore really. Don't remember his name, though.

[Phube]

Personal low-lights:

Talking about 'Brain Age'; then going on to demonstrate 'Big Brain Academy'!

Whinging about the price, over and over and over again!!

Criticising Wii Sports; then really enjoying playing it!!

Beardy bloke. Full Stop.

Whiny, American post teen geeks with chips on their shoulders!!

[Hellfire]

I heard that 1up are sony fanboys.

you heard right, expecting 1up to have positive Wii reviews is like expecting God to come to Earth and give everyone applepie.
Also remember folks, this is the internet, everything is loved and hated, it just depends on fabs, because most people absorve other people's opinions by osmosis.

[Haden]

Really not phased by that report at all. They seemed to love it then trash it anyway. I know I am just as excited as ever. :yay:

[Nintenchris]

Really not phased by that report at all. They seemed to love it then trash it anyway. I know I am just as excited as ever. :yay:

Yeah exactly... they might aswell of said "Man we love this ... the Wii is cool... but when the PS3 comes its gonna crush it alive"

[Colin]

The vid is well worth watching though for the Wii footage.

If you can, also check out last weeks show............which had extensive HL2: Episode 2 coverage, and Resistance for the PS3. Both of these look amazing (especially HL:Ep2)

[thomaschung]

Wii launch is really weak from Nintendo if you consider that Twighlight Princess was a Cube game and could really have been released a year ago. They only have 3 games out on day one and neither Wii Sports or Excite Truck are system sellers. If it wasn't for Zelda, I wouldn't be buying this at launch

[AshMat]

I also think that there should ahve been at least 1 more 1st party game at launch (MP3 or Brawl?)

[Hellfire]

Wii launch is really weak from Nintendo if you consider that Twighlight Princess was a Cube game and could really have been released a year ago. They only have 3 games out on day one and neither Wii Sports or Excite Truck are system sellers. If it wasn't for Zelda, I wouldn't be buying this at launch

3 games on launch are you crazy? Zelda couldn't have been done an year ago, GC or no GC, these games take time. This is the best launch ever and still people moan and whine like little girls.

[Cookyman]

Watched the vid.

Impessed with Wii footage.

Not impressed with 1up guys and your right the bearded hippy is the most biased person on their team - however he did make a good mii! :grin:

[Nintenchris]

3 games on launch are you crazy? Zelda couldn't have been done an year ago, GC or no GC, these games take time. This is the best launch ever and still people moan and whine like little girls.

QFT
Zelda is gonna take up most of my launch time anyway... any other massive games at launch would just subtract from my enjoyment of playing Zelda

[Smiter]

I agree that the launch is fine as is. I would prefer that Nintendo spread out their big hitters over time rather than have them all go at once. I don't want to experience the horrible drought DS had in its first months of life ever again.

I'm very happy with Wii Sports, Zelda and Excite Truck. :) Probably get Rayman from Ubisoft as it sounds good, plus I want to support their commitment to Wii. Then maybe Red Steel if it gets good reviews.

I think that 1 or 2 big games every couple or so months, supported by plenty of decent titles would keep most of us happy.

On topic, it's really amusing to see that the 1up guys were obviously enjoying themselves despite saying all those negative things. XD

[blender]

btw excite trucks not confirmed in europe for day 1

[Smiter]

btw excite trucks not confirmed in europe for day 1
Sorry, I was thinking launch window! If Excite Truck doesn't make it, that's a real shame, but the launch day lineup still looks good so far (what little we know of it).

[Colin]

3 games on launch are you crazy? Zelda couldn't have been done an year ago, GC or no GC, these games take time. This is the best launch ever and still people moan and whine like little girls.
An exec. did state some time ago that Nintendo themselves would have 5-6 of the 20 titles which were ready for launch. Can't be arsed to dig it up, but it was definitely said.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

An exec. did state some time ago that Nintendo themselves would have 5-6 of the 20 titles which were ready for launch. Can't be arsed to dig it up, but it was definitely said.

Harrison said so.

[Hellfire]

That's a lot of 1st party games and also a lot of 3rd party. I'm more than satisfied. I'm also happy they delayed MP3, it would be overkill and I don't want Metroids to come out that regularly.

[Cookyman]

That's a lot of 1st party games and also a lot of 3rd party. I'm more than satisfied. I'm also happy they delayed MP3, it would be overkill and I don't want Metroids to come out that regularly.

I was looking forward to Metroid as a launch title however if they need more time to work on it fair enough - I know it will be worth the wait.

[system_error]

The launch is definitly better than it was when the Gamecube came out but I am still not convinced about Nintendos strategy.

Zelda is in development for so many years - promises have been made and broken but as good as the game will be it can't live up to the hype. I mostly worry about the games for casual players and the new market Nintendo wants to open. Where is Brain Age, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing - those are the games Nintendo needs to get to non gamers. Wii Sports/Play are okay but not enough into the right direction.

So for the hardcore gamer the launch is a bit disappointing and for the casual gamer the right games are missing. I think that is the problem if you want to please 2 different markets at the same time. Personally I believe that third party titles except Red Steel do not matter - no real blockbuster and even less exclusive blockbuster titles. I hope that will be fixed soon...

[mario_jr]

Yeah exactly... they might aswell of said "Man we love this ... the Wii is cool... but when the PS3 comes its gonna crush it alive"

Yeah then you ask them why and they say "Cuz teh Grafixss!!111@AHHH, and Teh BLOOOD in teh Meture games"

[InvaderElmo]

I think it is a gesture of goodwill toward third parties that Nintendo is only releasing one must-have at launch. Letting the other guys in on the launch dollars is a good way to pay them back for supporting Wii from day one.

[Chanser]

Saw that episode last week, took me 10 minutes to download.

Good episode, I agree what was said.
I'm hoping price cuts just after the new year.

[mario_jr]

Its people like this that will be the death of the video game industry. They basicly saying that this new direction that nintendo is taking is a dumb, I guess they're not ones for innovation or new ideas. And how people can just as easily go home and use emulators on their computers for the VC games, lets see what the hell they try to emulate when they are no more game companies to make games.

And that guy with the beard, is the high school nerdy geek thats now grown facial hair and is cussing (talking mature) at every moment to try and seem "Cool". Oh yeah you are sssoooooo cool man. Gimmie a break.

[Dilli Gee]

There's apparently a major issue with the sensitivity of the Wii-mote. Zelda, Mario, CoD and the general menus have the problem.

[Cleveland_Jr]

I don't understand why people don't consider this a strong launch line-up. I suppose its personal opinion more than anything, but I had a hard time choosing a few games out of them. If there were too many great games i would be pissed off because id want them all.

Any control issues are complained about my people who've played the DEMOS of these games for the first or seconds time. It really wont reflect what the finished game is like. Ubisoft are fixing their mistakes and IGN noted the much more positive experience since e3. i think people should stop worrying so much about the controls and just have a little faith. Don't let 1up put you off just because theyre not particularly open-minded.

[JetSetWilly]

I heard that 1up are sony fanboys.

If you listened to the 1upyours podcast regularly you'd know that that is simply not true. 1up show a healthy cynicism towards all 3 platform holders. I welcome this sort of objective feedback because it means I'm more informed as a buyer and Nintendo have an opportunity to correct things. Who wants to listen to a podcast that just says ZOMG TEH WII-MOTE IS TEH M3GAT0N!!111!!

Just like DS it's going to take time to exploit the potential. Luke Smith's point (the beardy bloke) is that the potential isn't proven now but in a year's time it could well be. Sounds like a reasonable thing to say to me. After all, the biggest launch game is a Cube port - just like DSs biggest launch game was an N64 port.

[gj15987]

The hairy bloke is 1UP's own Xbox fanboy and is known for raising controversy just for sake of it. Attention whore really. Don't remember his name, though.

I hate Xbox fanboys...All the ones I know just jumped ship from Sony cus they saw it had better graphics.

[mike-zim]

i am still getting it at launch.

[nkarafo]

Mee too!!!

Wii Launch with Zelda TP of course.
It will be a great experience.

[blender]

I got lego star wars ds at launch :( last time i ride the hype wagon. Hopefully there will be some kiosks to have a go soon

[DiemetriX]

I got lego star wars ds at launch :( last time i ride the hype wagon. Hopefully there will be some kiosks to have a go soon

what? Did that make any sense?

I'm getting Wii at launch. I have allready ordered it (got it for £150). And I'm really thinking about Importing a extra one.. Maybe i should wait untill a black version comes.. ADX said he wil bring his import Wii to my place as long as I collected him and drove him home.

[Dilli Gee]

I hate Xbox fanboys...All the ones I know just jumped ship from Sony cus they saw it had better graphics.
I went from GameCube to PS2 to Xbox 360.

[LazyBoy]

I got lego star wars ds at launch :( last time i ride the hype wagon. Hopefully there will be some kiosks to have a go soon

There was no hype surrounding Star Wars DS. In fact we all new it was crap.

[mario114]

Can't be bothered to download it, but they can't possibly be dissappointed by the launch line up. Zelda, Splinter Cell, Far Cry, Red Steel... Best launch lineup ever I tell you.

I agree, that is a killer line up.

[Dilli Gee]

I agree, that is a killer line up.
I think the best launch line-up ever was for GameCube. Wii's is average imo, mainly just ports of last generation games with new controls.

[Hellfire]

I think the best launch line-up ever was for GameCube. Wii's is average imo, mainly just (exactly the same looking) ports with new controls.

You've got to be kidding me.

[Dilli Gee]

I dunno, I still feel the Wii launch line-up is just as bad as the Xbox 360's one. Or maybe it's just the fact the only actual Wii-through-and-through title Nintendo are releasing in Excite Truck. Seriously, Ubisoft should consider making games consoles.

[Charlie]

I think the best launch line-up ever was for GameCube. Wii's is average imo, mainly just ports of last generation games with new controls.

I personally thought the GameCube's launch lineup was very poor. The Wii has an incredible launch lineup, Zelda, Red Steel, Far Cry, Excite Truck, Splinter Cell and loads more.

[monkeyking87]

Given the rate of launches that Europe usually gets stuck with, Id say this is the best one yet!

[Sparko]

Personally I'm happy with the Wii launch lineup. Zelda at launch is a massive advantage and then I'm also looking forward to Red Steel, Splinter Cell, Rayman and WiiPlay. I'm not sure if Excitetruck is a launch title but I'm sure we'll have it before Christmas and that also looks very promising. Same can be said about Warioware.

Metroid would have been an amazing addition, but now that I think about it it might have been a bit too much for me. Least this way I'll have Zelda and a few other games to play over Christmas and the first few months of next year, and then Metroid will arrive and I'll be able to give it my undivided attention :)

[thomaschung]

3 games on launch are you crazy? Zelda couldn't have been done an year ago, GC or no GC, these games take time. This is the best launch ever and still people moan and whine like little girls.

I'm talking about launch day Nintendo games. Take out Zelda and what do we have from Nintendo? What I'm saying is Zelda was a Cube game and at one point was scheduled for release a year ago. Obviously they have added to the game loads since then. You think we haven't waited long enough for it?

I'm not talking launch window games which could take up to 3 months, and I'm not talking third parties either.

And btw games have not been delayed to spread out the releases, but because they are not ready to launch.

And also you sound like a child.

[Jamba]

I'm talking about launch day Nintendo games. Take out Zelda and what do we have from Nintendo?

The Wii?

I think people are asking quite a lot of the launch. I think that these games are good and there is a fairly healthy variety. From what I remember, the 360 launch sucked ass, not to mention PD0 not even making the cut.

No matter how many games there are on launch, some people will always want more.

[Cleveland_Jr]

I think people are asking quite a lot of the launch.
I agree with you there. We've got this revolutionary new console, and a big zelda title (who cares if it was meant for gc its still gonna be the top seller on the wii), some great third party titles, and some more killer games on the way. Didn't nintendo make sure they didn't release too many 1st party killer titles to give the 3rd party companies a chance anyway?

I don't want all the huge games released at launch anyway, because it would be too much trouble deciding which ones to get. Just be happy to concentrate on zelda and some great 3rd party games.

I don't see why people are complaining.

[Dilli Gee]

The Wii?
I don't think that's any excuse, it's not like the system is so groundbreaking Nintendo are hard pushed elsewhere to deliver. Microsoft managed to churn out 3 major launch titles (Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and PRG3), so Nintendo's Excited Truck and Zelda is a bit unexpected. But Ubisoft is doing a fantastic job.

[Cube]

I don't think that's any excuse, it's not like the system is so groundbreaking Nintendo are hard pushed elsewhere to deliver. Microsoft managed to churn out 3 major launch titles (Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and PRG3), so Nintendo's Excited Truck and Zelda is a bit unexpected. But Ubisoft is doing a fantastic job.

But 2 of those games were delayed a whole generation...

[Jamba]

Yeah and it's not like Nintendo have spent their load either. Mario, Smash and Metroid are almost complete and will be released shortly. 2 out of 3 of those release games from MS were from Rare and had been in dev for eons as has been said above. As I also said above, I'm pretty sure PD0 didn't even quite make it to release.

[solitanze]

Agree with what they say in just about all respects, with the exception of a few little things that have already been mentioned in this forum topic.

[LazyBoy]

If there is a launch where I want more than three of the games then I consider it a good launch. 3 games is enough at launch to sustain to the next batch of launch window games. There are 5 I want there, so I consider it a great launch.

[DCK]

Let's look at the GameCube launch lineup for a second:
WaveRace: Blue Storm (Nintendo)
Luigi's Mansion (Nintendo)
Star Wars Rogue Leader Rogue Squadron II (LucasArts)
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (Sega)
Super Monkey Ball (Sega)
ISS2 (Konami)
ESPN Winter Sports (Konami)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 (Activision)
Spiderman (Activision)
Tarzan Untamed (Ubi Soft)
Batman Vengeance (Ubi Soft)
Donald Duck Quack Attack (Ubi Soft)
Crazy Taxi (Acclaim)
Burnout (Acclaim)
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX (Acclaim)
NHL Hitz (Midway)
Gauntlet Dark Legacy (Midway)
Universal Studios (Kemco)
Batman (Kemco)
Tetris World (THQ)
2002 FIFA World Cup (EA SPORTS)

Super Monkey Ball and Rogue Squadron were good, the rest didn't get past above average. With Zelda, Red Steel, Splinter Cell and another Monkey Ball I think the Wii launch lineup is far stronger than this one.

[Hero-of-Time]

The only thing im disappointed with is the lack of first-party games ready for launch. Me and Takeo were talking about this over MSN at the weekend. I know Zelda is there but that is basically a Cube game that has been modified, other than that we have Wii Sports which is hardly a game that will eat up all of your time. Again I know that we will have many 1st party games to play in the future but I still think they should have launched with a "true" Wii game like Mario Galaxy.

After rambling on Im still getting one at launch though :D