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MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 12:01 PM
Do you think Zidane's headbutt was great or terrible? I think he did right. You wouldn't take that in the street so why should you take it on the pitch?

What do you think?

Edit I think my post has confused people. Sorry guys.
Ramar
16-07-2006, 12:03 PM
Genius. What he did in the World Cup can not and will not tarnish my thoughts on what has been one of the worlds greatest players in the last 15 years.

He is a footballing master.

Edit - Headbutt was terrible.
conzer16
16-07-2006, 12:06 PM
He is a footballing genius, but as you poll asks whether his headbutt is terrible or great it definitely terrible.

His apology to the children around the world justifies the stupidity of his headbutt. He was provoked, I accept that, but Jesus Christ dont do that in the biggest football match in the world......
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 12:11 PM
He is a footballing genius, but as you poll asks whether his headbutt is terrible or great it definitely terrible.

His apology to the children around the world justifies the stupidity of his headbutt. He was provoked, I accept that, but Jesus Christ dont do that in the biggest football match in the world......


If someone called your mum a terrorist whore, wouldn't you hit them?

I know I would.
BlueStar
16-07-2006, 12:11 PM
Idiotic genius. It's not like that was the first time, all through his career he's had a violent temper that he wasn't very good at controlling.
Katie
16-07-2006, 12:13 PM
If someone called your mum a terrorist whore, wouldn't you hit them?

I know I would.

If she's not one does it really matter? They're just words. He could have atleast waited until after the game to do it.
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 12:18 PM
If she's not one does it really matter? They're just words. He could have atleast waited until after the game to do it.

I think it was then or never. Also he could have not done anything and stayed on the pitch and possibly have lost. Or he could have done what he did and gone off in a blaze of fury. Most people still love him for the player he was, and there are people like my who also love him for not taking any shit from Materazzi. Genius.
Ramar
16-07-2006, 12:23 PM
If someone called your mum a terrorist whore, wouldn't you hit them?

No, because I don't want to be arse raped in prison when I go down for assault.

What Zidane is assault, and he is lucky acts of violence like this on a football field aren't generally picked up by police.
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 12:29 PM
What Zidane is assault, and he is lucky acts of violence like this on a football field aren't generally picked up by police.

Do you play football? if you do you should know how annoying some people are and you're better off just hitting them and then they stop being such dickheads.
BlueStar
16-07-2006, 12:31 PM
Do you play football? if you do you should know how annoying some people are and you're better off just hitting them and then they stop being such dickheads.


Yep, that showed him. I bet Materazzi is crying into his winners medal.

If someone tries to wind you up and get you sent off, the best way to deal with it is not by getting sent off.
Shorty
16-07-2006, 12:32 PM
No, because I don't want to be arse raped in prison when I go down for assault.

You don't go to prison for headbutting someone. Especially when provoked. You might spend one night in a cell, or get fined, if they choose to waste time pressing charges....

I wouldn't have done it, mainly because it was obviously exactly what they wanted to happen (although the guy probably didn't want to get smashed in the face) - they ended up with a player out of the match.
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 12:33 PM
Yep, that showed him. I bet Materazzi is crying into his winners medal.

No but I'm sure Zidane feels a lot better about it.
BlueStar
16-07-2006, 12:36 PM
Yep, ended his career in disgrace and possibly cost his country the world cup, bet he's over the moon.

He didn't even headbutt him in the face - if you're going to be dickhead and get sent off, you might as well get a decent nut in.
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 01:04 PM
Yep, ended his career in disgrace and possibly cost his country the world cup, bet he's over the moon.

He didn't even headbutt him in the face - if you're going to be dickhead and get sent off, you might as well get a decent nut in.

I think he wanted to do it in the face but Materazzi was too tall. Still to nut someone as tall as Materazzi in the chest and knock him off his feet... I wish I could do it.
Mr. Bananagrabber
16-07-2006, 01:06 PM
The other one... ****.
BlueStar
16-07-2006, 01:15 PM
I think he wanted to do it in the face but Materazzi was too tall. Still to nut someone as tall as Materazzi in the chest and knock him off his feet... I wish I could do it.

Hehe, knock him off his feet. If you breathe on someone on the pitch at the world cup they go down. All off the ball contact results in people hitting the deck.
Cube
16-07-2006, 01:17 PM
He's an idiot. He's just lucky in that he gets an easy job kicking a piece of pigskin around and gets paid a bomb for it.

And now he's finishes, he does something "stupid" like that, probably just to get attention from the media and more money.
Noodleman
16-07-2006, 01:20 PM
No but I'm sure Zidane feels a lot better about it.

He certainly looks that way.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/img/news/200607100624_france-b.jpg

oh wait.....
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 01:31 PM
Well it made me feel a lot better anyway.
Charlie
16-07-2006, 01:38 PM
He's an idiot. He's just lucky in that he gets an easy job kicking a piece of pigskin around and gets paid a bomb for it.

And now he's finishes, he does something "stupid" like that, probably just to get attention from the media and more money.

If the jobs so easy, why don't you do it too?
MunKy
16-07-2006, 01:53 PM
I think it was great. Its about time an Italian player went down for a reason. Diving bunch of ponces. I know its not just them but it was still needed.
Ramar
16-07-2006, 02:12 PM
Do you play football? if you do you should know how annoying some people are and you're better off just hitting them and then they stop being such dickheads.

Yeah I use to play football, I played for about 8 years. I never once retaliated to any of the verbal running about on the field. Because I knew it was all that, its just verbal crap that means nothing, and is there to wind you up. Failing to ignore it and returning it in physical or verbal form makes you just as bad as the person saying the insults.
Shino
16-07-2006, 02:31 PM
The headbutt was done gracefully, with the perfect technique of the algerienne shaolin monks ot the west, it was genious.
Haver
16-07-2006, 02:50 PM
He's an idiot. He's just lucky in that he gets an easy job kicking a piece of pigskin around and gets paid a bomb for it.


Jesus Christ, Cube. Way to perpetuate the stereotype!
gaggle64
16-07-2006, 03:00 PM
Violence in football is a bad thing, and had he kicked or punched him it would be horrible. The fact it was a HEADBUTT though, raises the incident to legendery status.
The3rdChildren
16-07-2006, 03:08 PM
He's an Internet legend. What more could he have hoped to accomplish from the act?
Fierce_LiNk
16-07-2006, 03:12 PM
The poll is a bit misleading. Basically, it's asking if we thought the headbutt was good or terrible!

He ended his career on a real low note, and he's going to have to live with that. In a few years time, if you ask him "how did you want to end your career?", he'll probably say "lifting the world cup."

The guy is still an awesome footballer, and hopefully that is how we all remember him by.
conzer16
16-07-2006, 03:14 PM
If someone called your mum a terrorist whore, wouldn't you hit them?

I know I would.

Ah for for fuck sake.....:heh:

Come over to Ireland and watch a hurling match. Players receive more physical abuse, more verbal abuse AND dont get paid and there's not 1/10th of the antics that go on in "Professional" soccer.....


The poll is a bit misleading. Basically, it's asking if we thought the headbutt was good or terrible!

He ended his career on a real low note, and he's going to have to live with that. In a few years time, if you ask him "how did you want to end your career?", he'll probably say "lifting the world cup."

The guy is still an awesome footballer, and hopefully that is how we all remember him by.


QFT
Tellyn
16-07-2006, 03:19 PM
The newspapers most probably made up the other footballer calling his family names, but even so, you don't react like that. Everyone wants an excuse for him, but he's just an idiot.
Ice9
16-07-2006, 03:24 PM
The newspapers most probably made up the other footballer calling his family names.

They had so much to gain. Welcome to planet no motive.
BeerMonkey
16-07-2006, 04:05 PM
has zidane or any other reliable source actually confirmed he called his family/mom a terrorist hore?..is it just in newspapers?

it has tarnished his name as he was a role model for footballers everywhere in the world...and to see him raising his..head...in anger is disgraceful surely he couldve waited till he was in the car park or sumthing ;):)

mightve done it out of frustation that he wasnt going out on a high with the world cup and instead he got so angry he had to take it out on someone
Action
16-07-2006, 04:30 PM
lol if u go on 4chan they have edited it in so many ways

http://nov.4chan.org/gif/src/1152979184185.gif
MoogleViper
16-07-2006, 04:43 PM
Yeah I use to play football, I played for about 8 years. I never once retaliated to any of the verbal running about on the field. Because I knew it was all that, its just verabl crap that means nothing, and is there to wind you up. Failing to ignore it and returning it in physical or verbal form makes you just as bad as the person saying the insults.

It wasn't just an insult. He also nipple crippled him.
Ramar
16-07-2006, 04:49 PM
It wasn't just an insult. He also nipple crippled him.

Is that meant to justify it?

I've had people stamp on my foot, hold onto my shirt, even shorts. I never retaliated, I just got in with my game. Zidane let it affect him and did exactly what Materazzi wanted.