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Blackfox
28-09-2005, 07:19 PM
The government announced today that they would be banning "junk food" being sold from schools across the country.

Foods high in fat, salt or sugar are to be banned from meals and vending machines in English schools.

The ban, from next September, has been announced by Education Secretary Ruth Kelly at the Labour Party conference.

Vending machines in schools will not be allowed to sell chocolates, crisps or fizzy drinks, Ms Kelly announced.

The School Meals Review Panel next week will give details of the nutritional standards for ingredients to be allowed in school meals.

Good? Bad? About time? Discuss.

christophicus
28-09-2005, 07:26 PM
This is deffinatly good for you guys,i dont live in england so it doesnt affect me:)

uəʌəsʎɐɾ
28-09-2005, 07:27 PM
Good: Healthier food! Healthier Kids! etc etc.

Bad: too late to affect me, and maybe kids will just buy more food from nearby shops?

Ugly: Doesn't mean the food will actually be any better, the companies who make the food will just.. take out the salt and sugar i guess. Food could just end up tasting worse, no?

Raining_again
28-09-2005, 07:32 PM
Does this affect what kids bring in for packed lunch, surely they arent gunna search their lunch!?! i mean im all for healthy eating etc etc but you cant force kids to eat food they don't like. It would be better only lettin the kids have a choice of one item of junk food for lunch.

When i was at high school they stopped selling ALL junk food (3+ years ago) and the kids just went down the street at lunch (which was banned) and bought chippy, sweets crisps etc.

edit: i think having a choice of junk food or health food one day a week would be a good idea, and serve healthy food the rest of the week. There's nothin wrong with eating junk food the odd time!

GoonFace
28-09-2005, 07:37 PM
Personally I don't really care what is on offer to eat. I'd prefer if they made it illegal for canteen food to be ridicuosly overpriced. At my school, its 60p for a packet of crisps, 80p for a fizzy drink (can) or £1.50 for a bottle, 65p for a Twix and well I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Ack! My school got fed food that would be more suited for pig swill; i'm so jealous!

Raining_again
28-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Personally I don't really care what is on offer to eat. I'd prefer if they made it illegal for canteen food to be ridicuosly overpriced. At my school, its 60p for a packet of crisps, 80p for a fizzy drink (can) or £1.50 for a bottle, 65p for a Twix and well I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

thats a joke!!! :O 80p for a can!? and ur lunch would add up to 4/5 quid a day you think? how can families afford that. 3 kids. £5 a day per child...o.O

Blackfox
28-09-2005, 07:42 PM
thats a joke!!! :O 80p for a can!? and ur lunch would add up to 4/5 quid a day you think? how can families afford that. 3 kids. £5 a day per child...o.O

I know, that's horrendous. :-/

My college is pretty overpriced, but i rarely use the canteen there. Row of shops close by ;)

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 07:44 PM
thats a joke!!! :O 80p for a can!? and ur lunch would add up to 4/5 quid a day you think? how can families afford that. 3 kids. £5 a day per child...o.O

Yep it's that ridiculous in most schools, when I was in school, basically all they had was burgers, no cheese -- £1.50 >_>

Raining_again
28-09-2005, 07:48 PM
After seeing that i kind of feel grateful for where i went to school. we had awesome food, curries, pizza baguette things (heaven!), roast dinners, chips salad puds etc. our prices were..average, probably cost about 3-3.50 a day for lunch.

Ray Falling
28-09-2005, 07:52 PM
Well, if people in school really have health problems cause of this then I agree. But in the end, you can still get anything you like in other places (unless yer not allowed to leave the school grounds during lunch breaks)

So hmmm, it's good that they try and make stuff healthier, but it doesnt help if yer eating healthy stuff in school and then get home and eat chips and junkfood and drink soda anyway. So I'm not sure how much this will help. It's all about disipline (spelling?) I suppose.

This better not just be just cause the current "be slim be beautifull"hype cause thats driving me insane "Ow look at me, I'm so pretty, thats cause I eat non-fat crap only n_~" ARGHHH!!! For the love of Mike...I havent had a decent meal or drink in months cause of all that damn "Light" crap we have in the fridge T_T People are obsessed... I blame the mass media!

--Ray

Ashley
28-09-2005, 07:53 PM
No sweets crisps and fizzy drinks in vending machines, they'll be empty! Also, this affect unis?

Anywho. Im off to uni next year and my college is opposite a Wilkos and Iceland so I don't care. Although I had a healthy lunch yesterday; tuna and sweetcorn pasta and Tropicana orange juice. Thats a rareity, as today I had crisps and a bottle of coke.

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 07:54 PM
Primary school food is great but when we turn into teenagers they feed us food a prisoner would pass on.

Whatever polititian is in control of schools must go. I don't want my kids to go though this crap.

But I think they're overreacting about the vending machines, kids need to want to eat healthily themselves, taking them away will just make the local fish & chip shop a whole lot richer and the school themselves worse off. T_T

They should just give them some fucking decent food for once.

Ray Falling
28-09-2005, 07:57 PM
Primary school food is great but when we turn into teenagers they feed us food a prisoner would pass on.

Whatever polititian is in control of schools must go. I don't want my kids to go though this crap.

I'm not familliar with how stuff works over there but you can always bring your own lunch I suppose. right? I mean, you can still bring the food you like. At least, thats what I been doing all my life.

Must be a Dutch thing...T_T;

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 08:06 PM
I'm not familliar with how stuff works over there but you can always bring your own lunch I suppose. right? I mean, you can still bring the food you like. At least, thats what I been doing all my life.

Must be a Dutch thing...T_T;

You can't really bring a meal with you; just a shitty sandwich and chocolate bar I guess.

I'm quite a healthy eater; not really into eating a bag of crisps from home or something every day.

Ray Falling
28-09-2005, 08:11 PM
You can't really bring a meal with you; just a shitty sandwich and chocolate bar I guess.

I'm quite a healthy eater; not really into eating a bag of crisps from home or something every day.

Good point...we eat shitty sandwiches anyway tho 0_0 How about soup?

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 08:14 PM
Good point...we eat shitty sandwiches anyway tho 0_0 How about soup?

Soup for school dinners? What are you crazy?!

Better join the sandwich bandwagon then... :heh:

Apple_NdiB
28-09-2005, 08:27 PM
My breakfast on college days consists of 2 cups of coffee and a fag, and my lunch is usually of the liquid variety. Actually, I don't think that has any relevance to this thread, oh well.

Wesley
28-09-2005, 08:35 PM
Fat kids are awesome.

More junk food I say.

Eenuh
28-09-2005, 08:44 PM
Heh, we never even had food we could buy in school. The only thing we could get were drinks (going from chocolate milk to water to cola and the likes). And now in college there are vending machines that have been empty for more than a year already. No canteen even.
So yeah, I bring in my own food, which consists of bread/sandwiches. And a bottle of fizzy water. Guess that makes me quite the healthy eater. And no, I don't eat junkfood outside of school. ='D
Yay for salads!

Ray Falling
28-09-2005, 08:46 PM
Soup for school dinners? What are you crazy?!

Better join the sandwich bandwagon then... :heh:

Wow, talk about culture shock. Having soup in school is the normallest thing in school with us n_n Okay but then it isnt highschool anymore.

We even get actual fast food there too 0_0

Stocka
28-09-2005, 08:54 PM
If people want to be healthy do exercise, no need do bann unhealthy foods. They should be there if we want them, doesn't mean we have to eat them. Jesus, if people want to get fit, don't diet, do excercise, dieting is bad for you anyway. Eat healthily but don't worry too much and have the occasional unhealthy thing, but as long as you do sport or exercise you'll be fine.
I eat bloody loads, in fact I'm a pig when it comes to food really, but i'm not fat because I train loads and do boxing training. so there you have it, someone who eats LOADA(and not all of it healthy) yet he still has a sixpack because of training :heh:

Blackfox
28-09-2005, 08:58 PM
If people want to be healthy do exercise, no need do bann unhealthy foods. They should be there if we want them, doesn't mean we have to eat them. Jesus, if people want to get fit, don't diet, do excercise, dieting is bad for you anyway. Eat healthily but don't worry too much and have the occasional unhealthy thing, but as long as you do sport or exercise you'll be fine.
I eat bloody loads, in fact I'm a pig when it comes to food really, but i'm not fat because I train loads and do boxing training. so there you have it, someone who eats LOADA(and not all of it healthy) yet he still has a sixpack because of training :heh:

All people aren't liek you though.

People will eat all kinds fo shit - have no concentration and become fat. I feel this ban is harsh, but necessary.

Cheapshot
28-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Wow, talk about culture shock. Having soup in school is the normallest thing in school with us n_n Okay but then it isnt highschool anymore.

We even get actual fast food there too 0_0

How's soup supposed to hit the spot?!

You crazy Dutch and ya soup.

Dieter
28-09-2005, 09:35 PM
How's soup supposed to hit the spot?!

You crazy Dutch and ya soup.

I get soup when the food is too crappy to bear.... even though they serve mayonnaise and ketchup with EVERY FUCKING THING these days :indeed:

Add a few waffles and you've got enough for a few hours. Besides, a spot of tummy-rumbling never hurt anyone :)

er-no
28-09-2005, 09:36 PM
Instead of crap meals. Why not give the kids something good for them, but also tasty.. and with a naughty name. If your worried about money? maybe our fecking government shouldn't invest 12billion into several helicopters that they could never find or train the pilots to fly. That's a lot of good school meals that is.

*hates the state of this country*

Charlie
28-09-2005, 09:53 PM
This will be an interesting issue in my school. It's not the school who pays for the stocking of the vending machines, it's the company who built the school and run the Sports Department (which is where the vendies are) as Sports Center outside school times. All fizzy drinks and junk food (apart from chips) have been taken out of our cafe already. Have been for 3 years now, when our new headteacher moved in...

Platty
28-09-2005, 10:35 PM
back in the day i used to eat a sandwich, choccy biscuit and a packet of crisp everyday at school for my lunch and i turned out ok.... looks down at stomach....oh wait...hmmm no no i think that may be the beer, yes it probably is.

Blackfox
28-09-2005, 10:38 PM
My breakfast on college days consists of 2 cups of coffee and a fag

That's a bit harsh.

http://www.basetree.com/thumbs2/Fag_School.jpg

/awful joke.

Wesley
29-09-2005, 06:05 AM
I don't get it.

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 02:46 PM
you don't want to.

i'm eally happy about this move, i'm sick of having to look at fat people, eurgh!

Jav_NE
29-09-2005, 03:00 PM
I read in the Metro today that they are also changing the vendin machines so no fizzy drinks or sugarary chocolate/crisps! I would be well gutted if i was still at school and couldnt get a fizzy drink for break! Thats just obsurd!

kopo
29-09-2005, 05:03 PM
A step in the good direction imo. They say the children should make their own decision about eating junk food or healthy food, but today's youth is simply to spoiled and has no self discipline whatsoever so maybe it's for their own good they remove fast food.

In our school there's no fast food yet, but they seem to be evolving in that direction. As Dieter mentioned, they serve mayonaise and ketshup with everything, and now they have these so called 'fast lunches' which are basically one step away from fast food. Also prices go up, food quality goes down.
It's only a matter of time untill companies and coorporations take over the school system and brainwash kids in the very place where they're supposed to become thinking, critical and respectable humans.

soag
29-09-2005, 05:12 PM
Healthy eating thats for suckers, this morning in work at 4am i had a huge fry for 1.55 :D.

Haver
29-09-2005, 05:15 PM
I had two sausages, a dollop of smash and an array of vegetables for my lunch today, a meal that was interpreted as the 'healthy option' by the kitchen staff. I would argue that every element of my meal consisted merely of reconstituted chips fashioned in such a way that their origins would remained undiscovered.

Raining_again
29-09-2005, 05:18 PM
I had two sausages, a dollop of smash and an array of vegetables for my lunch today, a meal that was interpreted as the 'healthy option' by the kitchen staff. I would argue that every element of my meal consisted merely of reconstituted chips fashioned in such a way that their origins would remained undiscovered.

thats very true...the healthy option in my school always meant soggy veg etc etc. the unhealthy food smelt and looked so much more better!

soag
29-09-2005, 05:22 PM
thats very true...the healthy option in my school always meant soggy veg etc etc. the unhealthy food smelt and looked so much more better!

Thats why we should all eat unhealthy :p, IMO skinny people look unhealthy, theres nothing more healthy than a good bit of meat round your bones, so say fuck off to the goverment and Jamie Oliver and get a good old fry down yea :). You know it makes sense.

Raining_again
29-09-2005, 05:29 PM
I agree with that in some ways, but obesity is just bad. aye nowt wrong with having "meat on ur bones" as u put it, but when it affects your health its not good. eating a fry every day will head you in the right direction for a heart attack when you're 30/40

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 05:34 PM
which is why we shouldn't be getting new generations into the habit of eating junk food at such a young age. thing is aswell, some kids will come from families that feed them junk for breakfast and supper, so it helps them by having at least one meal of decent food a day. it would be ridiculous to claim that this move is anything but a positive thing.

Raining_again
29-09-2005, 05:38 PM
which is why we shouldn't be getting new generations into the habit of eating junk food at such a young age. thing is aswell, some kids will come from families that feed them junk for breakfast and supper, so it helps them by having at least one meal of decent food a day. it would be ridiculous to claim that this move is anything but a positive thing.

i absolutely agree there, but some schools just dont have the facilities to make healthy food there on that day, and they have to be all cooked somwhere and shipped off and reheated...urgh lol

soag
29-09-2005, 05:40 PM
which is why we shouldn't be getting new generations into the habit of eating junk food at such a young age. thing is aswell, some kids will come from families that feed them junk for breakfast and supper, so it helps them by having at least one meal of decent food a day. it would be ridiculous to claim that this move is anything but a positive thing.

But we also shouldnt make them think being pencil thin is sexy and if your not skinny you are a freak, and tell them if you want to look like this you have to eat rabbit food, that is cruel and sick IMO. We should just be allowed to eat what we want to eat and what we like without laws sayinging we have to eat whatever they want us to eat.

Just remember girls curves are sexy.

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 05:45 PM
But we also shouldnt make them think being pencil thin is sexy and if your not skinny you are a freak, and tell them if you want to look like this you have to eat rabbit food, that is cruel and sick IMO. We should just be allowed to eat what we want to eat and what we like without laws sayinging we have to eat whatever they want us to eat.

Just remember girls curves are sexy.
it's not about being stick thin at all, it's about being healthy. i'll be happy to see less fat people walking the streets, yes, but i'm happier that we're no longer promoting a diet for five-year-olds up that will vastly increase the risk of heart disease. obesity is an issue, but certainly not the main one.

Kurtle Squad
29-09-2005, 05:48 PM
Although i agree with this. It's also bullshit!!
No suger!? No salt!?
Arn't these things good for you in the right amount?!

I don't think this is QUITE what Jamie Oliver was after.

soag
29-09-2005, 05:53 PM
it's not about being stick thin at all, it's about being healthy. i'll be happy to see less fat people walking the streets, yes, but i'm happier that we're no longer promoting a diet for five-year-olds up that will vastly increase the risk of heart disease. obesity is an issue, but certainly not the main one.

Obesity is an issue, I have to admit but the goverment are trying to tell us what to eat which I think is wrong. I eat what I want, when I want, sometimes i'll eat something healthy and sometimes I wont. Im 5'11 and weigh in at 12 stone. Am i overweight no im a thin no am i happy yes.

Everyone should be allowed to eat what they want, noone should be allowed to make that desiccion for them unless its a life or death situation. God gave us the huge amounts of food on this land to enjoy, and by golly im going to enjoy it.

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Although i agree with this. It's also bullshit!!
No suger!? No salt!?
Arn't these things good for you in the right amount?!

I don't think this is QUITE what Jamie Oliver was after.
i don't think you've QUITE understood the article.

but you are right, salt does have some positive benefits in moderation. here's some information about it if you want it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/food_matters/salt.shtml

soag - i don't think you'd have quite the same sentiments if you were dying of heart disease. i don't really understand your point on the government telling us how to eat, there have always been set menu's, just now they will be more sensible. i just think it's sick to be feeding children what they are being fed now, the government have been in the wrong for feeding damaging foods to primary school children, they're trying to remedy their mistake now. i hate the idea of a nanny state as much as the next p[erson, but i also hate the idea of children's development being stunted because the government feed them harmful foods.

Platty
29-09-2005, 06:03 PM
well if i was the kids i would just bring my own lunch into school, have a nice ham sandwich, a chocy biscuit and a packet of crisps and for a drink a bottle of fizzy fanta! haha i would easily get around the government plans

mario114
29-09-2005, 06:04 PM
I haven't eaten anything in my school's canteen in the past 3 years, it's all over priced junk food, and some rather bad tasteing fruit which has probaly got maggots crawing in it, theres no reason as i get either bring somehting from home, or just buy someting from the city.

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 06:05 PM
platty - if children choose to eat crap then that's fair enough, but our government is right in choosing not to promote such a lifestyle.

soag
29-09-2005, 06:10 PM
i don't think you've QUITE understood the article.

but you are right, salt does have some positive benefits in moderation. here's some information about it if you want it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/food_matters/salt.shtml

soag - i don't think you'd have quite the same sentiments if you were dying of heart disease. i don't really understand your point on the government telling us how to eat, there have always been set menu's, just now they will be more sensible. i just think it's sick to be feeding children what they are being fed now, the government have been in the wrong for feeding damaging foods to primary school children, they're trying to remedy their mistake now. i hate the idea of a nanny state as much as the next p[erson, but i also hate the idea of children's development being stunted because the government feed them harmful foods.

But if the goverment just feed children rabbit food, their development will also be stunted, we ned fat to surive its what keeps us warm in those long winter months which we have a lot of here. If the goverment want to fix something fix the education system and while they are at it maybe they should go back to school themselves and put someone who knows what they are doing in power. [rant over]

I think we shall just have to agree to disagree ;)

dukkadukka
29-09-2005, 06:15 PM
But if the goverment just feed children rabbit food, their development will also be stunted, we ned fat to surive its what keeps us warm in those long winter months which we have a lot of here. If the goverment want to fix something fix the education system and while they are at it maybe they should go back to school themselves and put someone who knows what they are doing in power. [rant over]

I think we shall just have to agree to disagree ;)
i don't know where you got the idea about rabbit food from, all the government are removing are HIGH fat, salt and sugar foods, not anything that includes them. i think we will have to agree to disagree, because i see no sense in your logic. you talk about improving the education system, and yet this "rabbit food" you blast is PROVEN to improve a child's performance in class.

Platty
29-09-2005, 06:19 PM
platty - if children choose to eat crap then that's fair enough, but our government is right in choosing not to promote such a lifestyle.

its not crap its lunch!!

as i said earlier when i was at school thats what i used to eat everyday - a sandwich, a biscuit, a bag of crisps and a drink. thats what i think of when someone says lunch to me, and thats still true now, for example i had 2 ham rolls and a packet of salt and vinegar squares for my lunch today!

For me i thought my lunch option at school & now is healthier than eating two hot meals a day!

if i would have gone into the canteen and ate a hot meal at lunch and one for dinner i would be massive american style but i didnt and im not.

soag
29-09-2005, 06:25 PM
i don't know where you got the idea about rabbit food from, all the government are removing are HIGH fat, salt and sugar foods, not anything that includes them. i think we will have to agree to disagree, because i see no sense in your logic. you talk about improving the education system, and yet this "rabbit food" you blast is PROVEN to improve a child's performance in class.

The best thing to improve a childs performance in class is to bring back the cane, and teachers that know the subject in what they are teaching, the eduction systems is up shit creek. The goverment need kicked up the arse if they think this is the way forward, we need fat, salt and suger to live thats why it exists.

There is so much pressue these days to be thin espically for girls, hence why there is so much cases of anoxica (sp) and bullimia, even sharon osbourne has admited to it.

By the way i know my spelling is shite and i should go back to school witht the wankers in goverment :p

Ashley
29-09-2005, 06:38 PM
Actually while on topic, decided to gain a bit of weight which seems surprisingly fun. Drink milkshakes, eat yogurts, biscuits and pasta. Not too shabby. Think its right for the goverment to be concerned, but it seems to be a bit of a moral panic more than anything to be too concerned about at the moment. Ah well, I don't run this place so it doesn't matter.

Johelian
29-09-2005, 08:46 PM
Sorry to get involved, but I think Dukkadukka has explained everything perfectly clearly and yet still people choose to misunderstand - theyre not removing all salt, fat and so forth from the menus. Yes, we need them (in small amounts) to live - but unless youre eating solely fat-free vegetables cooked in plain water, you will be getting salt and fat and sugar from what youre eating - just not the unhealthy levels that were being served up before.

Soag, this has nothing to do with encouraging people to be skinny - far from it. Its an attempt to stop OBESITY and other disorders relating to poor diet, not to suggest that we should all be stick thin. Do you really think they will be letting kids waste away on a lettuce leaf a day? The food that they will (hopefully) be supplied with will minimise health problems related to the crappy diets kids are getting (again, hopefully), and will still sustain them. Imagine a school was feeding hamburgers every day - now imagine that they are feeding reduced fat meats with not nearly so high a salt content. Is that bad?

An absence of fast foods doesnt mean salads is all that is on the menu.

I too am struggling to understand why people think this is a bad thing.
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Platty
29-09-2005, 09:03 PM
i dont think its a bad thing i just struggle to understand why people eat two big junk food hot meals a day. of course your gonna get fat from that! stick to breakie - toast or cereal, then a sandwich lunch then a hot dinner and then a kebab on the way home from the pub.... oh wait everything except the last thing.

Johelian
29-09-2005, 09:17 PM
i dont think its a bad thing i just struggle to understand why people eat two big junk food hot meals a day. of course your gonna get fat from that! stick to breakie - toast or cereal, then a sandwich lunch then a hot dinner and then a kebab on the way home from the pub.... oh wait everything except the last thing.

Definitely :) If less fast food is available to kids to eat, then they wont eat it (so long as more nutritionally-sound yet appealing choices are).
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Cheapshot
29-09-2005, 09:20 PM
Definitely :) If less fast food is available to kids to eat, then they wont eat it (so long as more nutritionally-sound yet appealing choices are).

Nah they'll just go down to the local Fish & Chip shop, trust me.

The less there is, the more desirable it is.

There has to be a way...

Platty
29-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Definitely :) If less fast food is available to kids to eat, then they wont eat it (so long as more nutritionally-sound yet appealing choices are).

yes and then if they dont like what the canteen are cooking up their mummy's and daddy's could stop being lazy and make them a nice fresh sandwich to take in for lunch.

Johelian
29-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Nah they'll just go down to the local Fish & Chip shop, trust me.

The less there is, the more desirable it is.

There has to be a way...

Hmm...I would love to see a primary school kid going to the chippie :/

But, so long as its handled properly and kids can be exposed to healthy foods that they will actually like, this shouldnt be an issue.

I personally prefer the idea of sandwiches too, but I guess its just not a viable option for everyone.
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Cheapshot
29-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Hmm...I would love to see a primary school kid going to the chippie :/.

I was thinking secondary schools, the food is actually pretty decent at primary schools; well the one I went to anyway.

Grebe
29-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Packed lunch all the way

I like this idea, i just hate Jamie Oliver

My Mother bums the hell out of him, does yours? perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she is a food teacher

Aimless
29-09-2005, 09:33 PM
I was thinking secondary schools, the food is actually pretty decent at primary schools; well the one I went to anyway.
I imagine we both went to primary school in the days before Turkey Twizzlers.

I don't get the general animosity towards Jamie Oliver. I can only see good things happening in regards to his push for healthier school dinners, and even if — as many cynics cite — the whole thing is about PR, that wouldn't make the repercussions any less favourable.

Cheapshot
29-09-2005, 09:33 PM
I think Jamie Oliver has some good ideals; Not sure if it's his own or Channel 4's idea though.

Johelian
29-09-2005, 09:37 PM
I was thinking secondary schools, the food is actually pretty decent at primary schools; well the one I went to anyway.

Aimless is right - its Primary schools that I believe are at the front of this whole debacle. Twizzlers and Potato Smiles? Yes, because the salt content of those isnt way over average :indeed: These things shouldnt have been allowed to have fallen to this level - although in all fairness I think that schools budgets for food have been pretty poor until Jamie Oliver's series. Suddenly - magically, almost - the government have found money to pump into the system.

While Im all for healthy eating, I cant help but balk at the ludicrous nature of how this scheme has come about.
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Cheapshot
29-09-2005, 09:45 PM
Hmmm I wonder how different the food is at primary schools after 8 years now you say that.

Are they ALL as bad as the one Jamie Oliver went to? How are we to know? I mean none of us actually go to primary schools.

This is a little unfair--I think there's quite a lot of schools out there making the effort, especially after Jamie Oliver.

Alterego
29-09-2005, 09:51 PM
hey cheap! i agree that the food at our primary school was good, like 8 years ago, but it could of changed yeah... i wonder! ...maybe....or....yeah..... i got it....all beat you at SC2 just u wait! :awesome: :heh:

Platty
29-09-2005, 10:07 PM
hmmm i cant quite remember back to the food at my primary school 11 -16 years ago but i do remember always having a packed lunch in my transformers lunch box!

sandwiches!! why dont school canteens stop selling hot food and just make fresh sandwiches for the children to eat ? many different fillings could be had! and then by the time they get into secondary school they would be used to healthier eating and carry on eating the sandwich!

but smiley faces do rock.

Johelian
29-09-2005, 10:11 PM
Hmmm I wonder how different the food is at primary schools after 8 years now you say that.

Are they ALL as bad as the one Jamie Oliver went to? How are we to know? I mean none of us actually go to primary schools.

This is a little unfair--I think there's quite a lot of schools out there making the effort, especially after Jamie Oliver.

I think that Oliver's series actually prompted an investigation into the menus at schools, and was discovered to be pretty grim. And schools cant make an effort without the funding - which in some cases is why the food was as bad as it was in the first place.

sandwiches!! why dont school canteens stop selling hot food and just make fresh sandwiches for the children to eat ? many different fillings could be had! and then by the time they get into secondary school they would be used to healthier eating and carry on eating the sandwich!
A nice idea, but I think that schoolkids would rebel at the thought of eating sandwiches every day. Remember, most kids dont actually care about whats good for them, which is why making sure that the food theyre offered is good is so important. ;)
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Cheapshot
29-09-2005, 10:12 PM
sandwiches!! why dont school canteens stop selling hot food and just make fresh sandwiches for the children to eat ? many different fillings could be had! and then by the time they get into secondary school they would be used to healthier eating and carry on eating the sandwich!


They do sell sandwiches don't they...?

And the smiley faces did rock! :heh:

Alterego
29-09-2005, 10:13 PM
yeah they are nice! we had them in secondary school to they were nice then to, if food like that is gonna be serverd then its obvious whats gonna get eaten!

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29-09-2005, 10:16 PM
yeah they are nice! we had them in secondary school to they were nice then to, if food like that is gonna be serverd then its obvious whats gonna get eaten!

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We had smily faces in secondary school?! Since when?! Oh how I missed out...

Johelian
29-09-2005, 10:19 PM
yeah they are nice! we had them in secondary school to they were nice then to, if food like that is gonna be serverd then its obvious whats gonna get eaten!

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Food like that is what is bad ;) The salt content of those is stupidly high.
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Alterego
29-09-2005, 10:20 PM
yeah i know im not saying there good for u just... there good! lol

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29-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Food like that is what is bad ;) The salt content of those is stupidly high.

Hmm I'm not fat and I practically lived on those things as a kid; I think it's because of my psycho metabalism though.

Don't worry, I like to eat healthily nowadays though--and I want my kids to do the same.

Alterego
29-09-2005, 10:23 PM
lol wish i had that jay! :(
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Johelian
29-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Hmm I'm not fat and I practically lived on those things as a kid; I think it's because of my psycho metabalism though.

Don't worry, I like to eat healthily nowadays though--and I want my kids to do the same.

Re-read - SALT, not fat ;)
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Cheapshot
30-09-2005, 09:47 AM
What all that was over salt?!

You're not one of those calorie counters are you?

Blackfox
30-09-2005, 03:08 PM
What all that was over salt?!

You're not one of those calorie counters are you?

Salt causes hypertension (high blood pressure) so they dont want to be giving young children bad conditions from an early age.

Haver
30-09-2005, 04:10 PM
The aforementioned bangers and mash made me ill! Hurrah!

Raining_again
30-09-2005, 04:38 PM
The aforementioned bangers and mash made me ill! Hurrah!

oh noes...obviously the healthly option isnt so good for you haver :heh:

Charlie
30-09-2005, 04:42 PM
I'm with you Platty. My lunch at weekends is just toast/soup and a choccie biscuit. At school I have a cheese and ham Panini with a carton of fresh Apple Juice and it's very good. The panini's are massive and the prices are very good. £1.55 for all of that, £1.20 for the panini, 35p for the juice. Are school don't serve burgers anymore, only junk food is chips (have I already said that?). We get loads of different things to choose from at the "hot queue", 3 different things a day, usually Macaroni and cheese, lasagne, mince, haggis sometimes. Unfortunately there's no porridge :P