Eternal Sonata [Archive] - N-Europe Forums

Stocka

21-06-2006, 03:44 PM

IGN:
June 21, 2006 - On October 17, 1948, Frederic Chopin, one of the most influential composers for the piano, succumbed to sickness and died at the young age of 39.

Three hours prior to that, in the world according to Bandai Namco, Chopin, crouched on the floor of his hospital, saw a dream. The dream had anime characters that looked like they were out of a Tales game and a world that looked like it was pulled from a fairy tale. In the dream, people carried about their lives like in the real world. But in the dream world, people with incurable sicknesses had magical powers.

Bandai Namco's new Xbox 360 RPG, Trusty Bell: Chopin's Dream ("Chopin no Yume" for the Japanese version) takes place in this dream world. Chopin (yes, the composer) comes into contact with Polka, a young girl who resides with her mother in the village of Tenuto (the names, you'll find, are all musical terms). Polka is near her death, meaning she's got some crazy powers. Unfortunately, people believe that by touching her, they'll be infected with her koodies, so Polka's not particularly popular.

Trusty Bell is the story of Chopin (yes, the composer), Polka, and a Allegretto, a 16-year-old who steals to eat and lives for only one thing: to help Polka.

If Trusty Bell were called Tales of Something-or-other, no one would complain. The game has the absurd premise, peculiar names and colorful artwork of Namco's biggest RPG series. Plus, musical composition is being handled by Motoi Sakuraba, of Tales of fame.

Trusty Bell will also feature a battle system that's heavy on the action. Details are scarce, but based on the screenshots currently circling exclusively in Japan's Famitsu magazine, the battle system supports three characters (including an unknown male character called Beat) and features some sort of combo system. Allegretto makes use of a sword as his primary weapon while Polka, being a cheery girl character and all, resorts to an umbrella.

Music and story look like they will play a big part in Trusty Bell. Bandai Namco has drafted famous Japanese actor Leo Morimoto to perform narration for the game's Japanese version. Performing the piano numbers that Chopin left to the world (before having his RPG dream) will be Russian pianist Stanislav Bunin.

Trusty Bell is in development at tri-Crescendo, a studio that worked on the sound components of tri-Ace titles like Radiata Stories, Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile and also worked on programming, sound and the battle system for Baten Kaitos, along side Monolith Soft . The game is currently without a final release date in Japan.

Music and story is what makes RPGs so special to me, it really sounds like they are trying to make the music as awesome as possible, awesome.

m_fergy

21-06-2006, 03:54 PM

any ideas of release date ?

Stocka

21-06-2006, 04:04 PM

any ideas of release date ?
Read the end of the quote from IGN I just posted.

Tailzo

21-06-2006, 04:09 PM

Stocka: Good that you made a whole new thread for the game, it seemed to go almost unnoticed in the xbox360 thread. It looks so great.

Smalldude76

21-06-2006, 04:24 PM

Looks very Baten Kaitos-y. Hopefully it'll be a good game for my future 360 :)

LazyBoy

21-06-2006, 04:50 PM

I can't understand why Japanese developers are still making games for the 360. The thing has flopped in Japan (practically) which is where most Japanese games (like this) are targeted. I'm not complaining, it means I won't have to buy a PS3 for it, but i'm just saying it baffles me.

Tailzo

21-06-2006, 04:52 PM

^
These kind of games do sell decent in the rest of the world too. Look at Tales of Symphonia for example. +Microsoft may be very nice to them...

Jamba

21-06-2006, 09:31 PM

Stocka

21-06-2006, 10:02 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that for a console that is next-gen the graphics should look better compared to GCN graphics then they do? It's nice an all but as someone said, it looks a bit FF:CC+.
Well yes, but it's easy to forget that certain RPGs this gen look absolutely beautiful, and can't be improved too much upon e.g. Baten Kaitos backgrounds. Once we see this in motion I think it'll look all the more beautiful too, the water is going to be lovely if its like that in Blue Dragon :shock:
Watch this to see what I mean:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8752&type=wmv&pl=game

Tailzo

22-06-2006, 06:42 PM

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Either this is:
a) Some very nice and colorful renders / fmv

b) incredibly colorful and nice in-game screenshoots / in game graphics renders.

The style and colors make this much more impressive than Gears of War for me. One of the best looking xbox360 games so far.
http://www.tri-crescendo.co.jp/

Tellyn

22-06-2006, 06:55 PM

Looks lovely, shame I can't afford an XBox360 for a long while. But I hope to get one when I have money.

Stocka

22-06-2006, 10:03 PM

Mmm yes, that bottom screen is very pretty.

Marshmellow

22-06-2006, 10:41 PM

wow those are very awesome screenshots this game sounds pretty good.

Stocka

23-06-2006, 09:53 AM

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Hero-of-Time

23-06-2006, 11:14 AM

WOW. Visually this game looks amazing, keep the screenies coming Stocka!

Domstercool

23-06-2006, 01:54 PM

So beautiful... It's now certainly growing up my ranks of RPGs to get.

Stocka

23-06-2006, 02:02 PM

keep the screenies coming Stocka!
Sure thing.

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I LOVE how the characters look.

Tailzo

23-06-2006, 02:07 PM

I don't see how some people can say it hardly looks better than a ps2 game after those screens. VERY nive. I'm a sucker for colors like this, though.

The3rdChildren

23-06-2006, 02:09 PM

Yeah, those shots = me RIKEY VERY MUCH.

BeerMonkey

24-06-2006, 11:16 AM

*puts on list to get when buy a 360*

this game looks stunning hope it gets good reviews

Caris

24-06-2006, 11:37 AM

I LOVE how the characters look.

Same! this games looks amazing!

immy

24-06-2006, 11:47 AM

That game looks lovely apart from the battles which could look alot better.

Stocka

24-06-2006, 11:56 AM

http://pix.nofrag.com/0d/a7/e93b8b1c45fa58747d7c62874af5.jpg
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Tailzo

26-06-2006, 07:09 AM

Somehow the characters and the BG didn't blend well.

Johelian

06-07-2006, 08:43 PM

This gen MS have obviously realised that they have to plug the major gaps in their reportoire - namely the RPGs, Life Sims and so on. The "niche" stuff, which actually makes up a massive part of the market these days. This realisation + a lot of money = plenty of games you wouldnt have thought would ever appear on a Microsoft machine. They still have the potential to win over Japan - after all, theyre still the only competitors in the market at the moment, and will be cheaper than the PS3 at launch - and so are pulling out all the guns. Its all good.

It looks absolutely beautiful, and actually has a really interesting concept (I was beginning to lose a little hope for the genre). I hope they rethink the title for western release.
________
Buy silver surfer vaporizer (http://vaporizer.org/reviews/silver-surfer)

Stocka

23-02-2007, 04:09 PM

Gorgeous new screens!
http://www.jeux-france.com/news19346_trusty-bell-l-avalanche-d-images.html
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070223_121854_12_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070223_121851_1_big.jpg
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*stunned by the beauty*

Been Insane

23-02-2007, 04:41 PM

WOW! Drools...

Stefkov

23-02-2007, 11:06 PM

Looks very nice.

Calza

15-03-2007, 03:56 AM

Some nice English screens :D

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/5070/1099_0001.jpg

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I really want to know how the battles play out. They look awesome!

Caris

15-03-2007, 04:21 AM

Now this looks the buisness.

Hero-of-Time

15-03-2007, 06:59 AM

This simply looks fantastic, wonder when it will get released?

Domstercool

15-03-2007, 10:15 AM

I hope to god that the game is region free. I don't want to wait 10 years for it. :(

Daft

15-03-2007, 10:28 AM

I've had my eyes on this game for a while now, I just can't wait! I hope it's region free aswell!

ZeldaFreak

15-03-2007, 11:10 AM

Isn't it supoosed to becoming out in US and europe not long after japan

Stocka

15-03-2007, 09:57 PM

The fact that we have America screens now with english text is a very positive sign

Calza

15-03-2007, 10:30 PM

Anybody thinks the greyhaired dude looks like Luffy from One Piece? Maybe it's just the whole pirate thing going on.

The 360 is just going to be awesome with all these RPG's coming out for it. Hopefully Japan will start to reconise the 360 as a solid console.

The Bard

16-03-2007, 02:01 AM

Too bad it has such a stupid name.

Stocka

16-03-2007, 09:09 AM

Too bad it has such a stupid name.
The US version is going to be called Eternal Sonata by the way. Whether you prefer that though is up to you.

Tailzo

16-03-2007, 09:36 AM

The english transelation seems a bit weird. But I'm not english, so I might be wrong. The artstyle is awesome.

ZeldaFreak

16-03-2007, 10:32 AM

Stocka

16-03-2007, 08:30 PM

Battle gameplay video up at gamevideos
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/10056
It's like a cross between Tales of Symphonia and Baten Kaitos in so many ways, like the music and scenery.
It's also talked about a lot on this week's 1upYours podcast apparently (haven't listened yet)

Calza

16-03-2007, 08:33 PM

Joystiq hand's-on immpressions (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/16/hands-on-impressions-and-english-screens-of-eternal-sonata/)

Sounds good! :D

Stocka

16-03-2007, 09:02 PM

omg omg omg omg

According to 1upYours, it's coming out in the summer! (in America). Before Blue Dragon! :shock:
I was expecting around spring 2008. awesomeeeee

Domstercool

16-03-2007, 09:10 PM

Say region free, Say region free, Say region free, SAY IT DAMN YOU!!

Daft

16-03-2007, 09:12 PM

I signed up for a Japanese XBL account to download the trailer but for some reason when I try to sign in on that gamertag on my xbox it says that there is a problem with the sign in service...

Aimless

16-03-2007, 09:54 PM

According to 1upYours, it's coming out in the summer! (in America). Before Blue Dragon! :shock:
Shane also said it looked like a Dreamcast game with good art. I want his Dreamcast.

Daft

16-03-2007, 10:07 PM

Shane also said it looked like a Dreamcast game with good art. I want his Dreamcast.

From the screenshots alone it looks stunning, I can't wait to see this game in motion! If my Dreamcast looked that sexy I would still be playing it...more regularly!

Edit: I just downloaded the trailer off XBL and it looks stunning and I can kinda think understand where the dreamcast statement comes from...It looks stunning though and the music in the trailer is fantasic aswell...which really shouldn't be a suprise!

Stocka

17-03-2007, 09:45 PM

IGN:
The game is being translated into English even while work is still being done in Japan to ensure that the game comes out worldwide early this summer.
Looks like it could be my next 360 purchase then!

Domstercool

17-03-2007, 09:48 PM

Hotness, just give me a proper date and I'll be happy.

Daft

17-03-2007, 10:24 PM

I've watched the XBL Trailer about 20 times now! It just looks awesome!

That Guy

18-03-2007, 12:05 PM

This is looking really nice, I need to get playing through my damn games!

Still need to play through Grandia II on my Dreamcast, so as soon as that's done (and I'll play through Zelda and Okami before I do that) then I'll pick this and Blue Dragon up I think. I've never really played many RPGs but I do like them when I get into them.

Mr. Bananagrabber

18-03-2007, 04:30 PM

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/5070/1099_0007.jpg
Dialogue never was Namco’s strongpoint. Symphonia may have been a bit generic, but I can happily say I enjoyed most of it. I’ll be getting this. Any word on a Euro release date?

Dante

18-03-2007, 07:35 PM

Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata Screens
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CooInTheZoo

19-03-2007, 04:05 PM

most. stunning. game. ever.

i dont care if the stories about a lost budgie. im playing this for the graphics alone!

Indie James

25-03-2007, 12:50 PM

All I can say is...Wow!

This could be the game that makes me buy a 360.

Sanchez

25-03-2007, 05:50 PM

Is the battle system going to be as similar as ToS' as it looks, if so then I am very much excited.

Daft

26-03-2007, 04:18 PM

Is the battle system going to be as similar as ToS' as it looks, if so then I am very much excited.

I've haven't played ToS so I can't really say but on the video on XBL, you need to get a Japanese account, it shows some of the battles!

Goron_3

26-03-2007, 09:55 PM

Is the battle system going to be as similar as ToS' as it looks, if so then I am very much excited.

From what i've seen it is similar to ToS, however whereas ToS only let you move from left to right, you can move anywhere in this (like in FFXII where you are free to move around).

Stocka

30-03-2007, 01:44 PM

More sex:
http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070330/tb.htm

Daft

31-03-2007, 10:05 PM

This game looks good enough to eat...

That Guy

31-03-2007, 11:17 PM

There's no way this looks like a Dreamcast game. I love Dreamcast but there is no way any games looked that good.

Stocka

31-03-2007, 11:19 PM

When I look at the screens I don't really think about what generation/console it supposedly belongs on, but instead just adore the beauty.

Daft

01-04-2007, 10:16 PM

Yea, I don't really see how this game could look any better!

Mercyful Fate

07-04-2007, 03:49 PM

The box is getting some really nice RPG's the upcoming months.. This, Blue Dragon, Mass effect, Fable 2.. All looks like grade AAA games.

<borat> iis niiicee </borat>

:kiss:

Stocka

08-04-2007, 12:39 AM

Lost Odysee gets worldwide release in nov/dec too. 360 is turning out to be the best RPG platform.

Daft

08-04-2007, 01:09 AM

Thank god, because I have played a good RPG since...well Golden Sun!!!...please come to Wii...

CooInTheZoo

08-04-2007, 01:22 AM

Thank god, because I have played a good RPG since...well Golden Sun!!!...please come to Wii...

i think it might make the Wii shoot hot plastic into our faces...

Stocka

11-04-2007, 02:33 PM

There's going to be a bundle in japan when it launches on 14th June.
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070411_125619_0_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070411_133142_0_big.jpg
I really hope it sells well.

Daft

11-04-2007, 05:20 PM

Damn that looks sexy.
If this doesn't sell well in Japan I have no idea what will! Common Microsoft, sell more than the PS3, just for 1 week at least!!

Hero-of-Time

11-04-2007, 09:43 PM

Stefkov

11-04-2007, 09:47 PM

But thats only a Core version..

Looking back at the pictures, I can't believe how good it looks. I need this game.

Stocka

11-04-2007, 09:50 PM

Yey it comes out on my birthday. I demand someone buy and import me a bundle :grin:
Cool birthday, pretty much bang on half way through the year. Mine's August 4th, love having it in the summer.

Daft

11-04-2007, 11:13 PM

But thats only a Core version..

Looking back at the pictures, I can't believe how good it looks. I need this game.

The box says Premium on it in Japanese, so I'm a bit confused as to why the contents is a core! :wtf:

Calza

11-04-2007, 11:28 PM

The core was never even out in Japan...

Daft

12-04-2007, 05:09 PM

According to IGN it is a core...but the box does say premium...so I'm confused.

Stocka

23-04-2007, 10:57 PM

Rumour: It's going to PS3 too :(

Mr. Bananagrabber

23-04-2007, 11:14 PM

Rumour: It's going to PS3 too :(

Why is that a bad thing?

Calza

23-04-2007, 11:45 PM

Why is that a bad thing?

It can't be a good thing.

Mr. Bananagrabber

23-04-2007, 11:56 PM

Surely if it's a good game, the more people that play it, the better, right? If anything it will increase the chances of a sequel.

Domstercool

24-04-2007, 08:51 AM

Yep it's coming to PS3 too. Wonder what sales will be like on both systems in Japan. O_o

Jordan

24-04-2007, 09:26 AM

Its so weird for a PS3 version to just be shown like, a month or so before release and we've heard nothing previously.

Which version you thinks gunna be better guys?

Domstercool

24-04-2007, 10:06 AM

Depends how it is. I wonder if they will both have dual language when coming over in English? Certainly space on a blu-ray anyway, so no excuse about space there (like the Blue Dragon Europe bollocks!!)

Hero-of-Time

24-04-2007, 11:36 AM

Which version you thinks gunna be better guys?

I imagine they will be nearly identical apart from the Achievements on the 360 version.

Jordan

24-04-2007, 11:51 AM

I imagine they will be nearly identical apart from the Achievements on the 360 version.

Well, i wasn't gunna buy this game in the first place. I enjoy very very few RPG's.

But i wonder if achievement points would sway Domstercool :D

Stocka

24-04-2007, 04:33 PM

Why is that a bad thing?
Because I love exclusives, particularly on consoles I own.

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 04:35 PM

Yep it's coming to PS3 too. Wonder what sales will be like on both systems in Japan. O_o

Indeed. Wasn't this touted as something akin to the next Blue Dragon for Micrsoft in Japan e.g. something that sells systems. I bet Microsoft will be irked, but exclusives are annoying ideas anyway - the less of them we have is better news for gamers, I'm glad it's gone to PS3.

Stocka

24-04-2007, 04:41 PM

Indeed. Wasn't this touted as something akin to the next Blue Dragon for Micrsoft in Japan e.g. something that sells systems. I bet Microsoft will be irked, but exclusives are annoying ideas anyway - the less of them we have is better news for gamers, I'm glad it's gone to PS3.
I suppose i'm the only one who loves exclusives then. To be honest, I dislike the whole concept of multiplatform games so much that i'd prefer it if every game on each console was exclusive.
*hides*

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 04:47 PM

I suppose i'm the only one who loves exclusives then. To be honest, I dislike the whole concept of multiplatform games so much that i'd prefer it if every game on each console was exclusive.
*hides*

Why?

What difference does it make to you if the PS3 has Eternal Sonata on it? You're still going to get to play the game - and playing games is what it's all about right?

Stocka

24-04-2007, 05:11 PM

Why?

What difference does it make to you if the PS3 has Eternal Sonata on it? You're still going to get to play the game - and playing games is what it's all about right?
Exclusives make consoles unique, that's why I like them. You can identify a console by what games it has exclusive, which is important.

Mr. Bananagrabber

24-04-2007, 05:15 PM

Exclusives make consoles unique, that's why I like them. You can identify a console by what games it has exclusive, which is important.

I'm sure everyone who owns a PS3 and not a 360 disagrees. I see no problem with letting more people play great games. Personally.
I can understand where you're coming from though.

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 05:22 PM

Exclusives make consoles unique, that's why I like them. You can identify a console by what games it has exclusive, which is important.

Though surely you like consoles because of the games on them. Right? So surely it's better for you as the consumer to get one console and get to play the majority of games that are out on that system.

Why would you want exclusives that force you to buy another console just for the sake of a couple of games that otherwise could potentially be ported over to another system? I think I'd much rather keep £425/£280 and spend that money on games that have lost their exclusivity and have come over to the system. Wouldn't you?

The majority that disagree I find are the fanboys who's main weapon is the exclusive in the "na na na na, my consoles better than yours" as seen by the pathetic petition that went up regarding DMC4 exclusivity.

Stocka

24-04-2007, 05:26 PM

The thing is, i'm not going to say that you're wrong. The problem is that you're talking about the consumer, and why multiplatform games are benficial to the consumer, which is agreeable. However i'm talking about game consoles in general and what I personally like to see.

The thing is, i'm not going to say that you're wrong. The problem is that you're talking about the consumer, and why multiplatform games are benficial to the consumer, which is agreeable. However i'm talking about game consoles in general and what I personally like to see.

Fierce_LiNk

24-04-2007, 05:41 PM

I do see what Stocka is saying. And, I'm pretty much inclined to agree with him. If a console doesn't have it's own set of exclusives, then it loses a valuable reason to buy that specific console. Then, it would be purely on the machine itself, and with two out of the three machines being driven towards a HD, high performance and highly graphical world, surely there would be little between the systems if there were no exclusives.

It is kinda special for the people who may only own one console. If you forked out to buy a PS3, only to find the one game you wanted is now going to be on another system in the future (a cheaper system), you'd probably be a little pissed off.

Would Nintendo games lose their special feeling if they were on other systems? My answer: Ask Sega.

But yeah, if each system should be judged on their games, which they should be, then exclusives are important.

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Then, it would be purely on the machine itself, and with two out of the three machines being driven towards a HD, high performance and highly graphical world, surely there would be little between the systems if there were no exclusives.

It is kinda special for the people who may only own one console. If you forked out to buy a PS3, only to find the one game you wanted is now going to be on another system in the future (a cheaper system), you'd probably be a little pissed off.

Would Nintendo games lose their special feeling if they were on other systems? My answer: Ask Sega.

But yeah, if each system should be judged on their games, which they should be, then exclusives are important.

But isn't that what you would want?
Little difference between the PS3 and the 360?
And what you say about the person wanting one console, yes I suppose exclusives are special for those with one console, but I'd bet my bottom dollar they'd swap "their" exclusives, for the exclusives available on the other console. I think, although unrealistic, the ultimate want for gamers is a behemoth of a machine that could be something like a PS360 which would incorporate Sony games, hardware reliability, blue-ray and also include Microsofts games, online service, etc

What you say about Nintendo is true, which is why they were so clever in a way with the Wii because come next year, the ports will have died out and every Wii game will be an exclusive game due to the radical difference between the Wii and the competition. As we've seen the whole Wii60 thing, the Wii is the second console, and if I buy a 360, I sure as hell would like to see Final Fantasy XIII/Metal Gear Solid 4 on it as that way I wouldn't have to buy a PS3. Don't people feel the same?

That Guy

24-04-2007, 07:37 PM

I'm sure everyone who owns a PS3 and not a 360 disagrees. I see no problem with letting more people play great games. Personally.
I can understand where you're coming from though.

I know what you're saying, but I'm kinda like Stocka, if a game is exclusive it's like a reason why your console is special. For me the reason for getting a PS2 was Ratchet and Clank, Okami, Shadow of the Colossus. Exclusive games just seem a bit more.. I dunno, it's hard to explain.

Hero-of-Time

24-04-2007, 08:07 PM

I have to jump in bed with Stocka, Flinky and Guy on this one ( saucy ).

I have to say I was thinking about this the other week when looking at the release list for the PS3 and the 360. Just about all the titles on these lists were multiplatform and it was kind of upsetting. I personally think that we are going to see a mass decline in exclusive titles from 3rd parties due to development costs and this in turn IMO will cause the console itself to lose its individuality.This is a main reason why I have always loved and supported Nintendo because you can only get Nintendo games on their machine which makes them unique.

Looking at the PS3 in the future the console doesnt really have much to offer in terms of exclusive games which will hurt Sony. Why spend money on a more expensive games machine ( PS3 ) when you can get practically the same machine ( 360 ) with the same games?

From a business stand point it doesnt make perfect sense to release a game on multiple platforms and im sure many gamers are happy with this, personally I would like consoles to keep their exclusive games which as I have said give them their own image.

End not very well thought out rant.

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 08:24 PM

Who gives two figs about console image? Do you really care that deeply that you would rather sacrifice such games as Final Fantasy XIII or Metal Gear coming to an 360, because of the console's image or vice versa. I really think people get too involved with this whole industry thing, developing an attachment to the company itself, and disliking other companys just because they are competitors to the company they like. This is evident through the big Sony hatred that pours out of the Internet, or the ridiculous notion that people were going to boycott Capcom because they released DMC4 on 360 - God, does that really matter that much to people? Can't they just get on and enjoy the game themselves instead of looking over their shoulder and complaining that other gamers are playing their game?

Does console individuality matter though? What I'm getting at that at the end, when you put the disc and start playing the game, does it matter what system it is being played on - so what if it is or isn't a third party exlcusive.

I see the angle from which it is nice to have a game for your console as it feels like your privileged and such to have that console, but when you start playing the game all that other stuff goes out the window.

If I had played Wind Waker on an Xbox, sure it would have been weird buying a Zelda game in an Xbox game case, and putting it into the Xbox and such. But I'd know as soon as I would start playing the game, it would've still made me rub my belly in delight. Can people seriously argue that a game of the same quality and content on another system would cause them to have a lesser experience?

I think it's just a mind set people have about exclusives, that dominates in the hype and such during the build up to the game's release. It's a way of them making themselves feel good about themselves and that console they own.

I think the future of the exclusive should be the timed exclusive, a much fairer way on both the console maker, the console owners who like their exclusives, and the game developers. Don't you think?

Stocka

24-04-2007, 08:50 PM

|Laguna|

24-04-2007, 09:12 PM

So basically Laguna, you'd rather there was just one console that every game was on rather than three competitors? Because your argument is basically saying that you're happy to see every game multiplatform, which rules out any need for there to be more than one console.

You make it seem in your post that you’re sneering your nose up at the idea of just one console – and yes, while I can see the whole “there’s no competition so the standards don’t need to be kept high as that console is the only option” – but if say game standards remained, and lets imagine that one was to amalgamate the PS3 and the 360 (for-ged-about the Wii, as that is an entirely different console, ethos and games wise), why do you treat the idea of one super console with distain?

Just think of the N64 and the Sony saga . It could have transpired that the N64 would've basically been the Playstation as well with its incorporation of the CD device, making surely a perfect console of the times. A system which had the best Nintendo first party games, but also appealed to lots of devs with the cheap CD system to develop third party games for it - of course things could have gone down another route via the games made and such, but just pause and think, wouldn't that have been the ultimate? An N64 and a Playstation in one with games on the one system?

When I buy a 360 so to play Gears, Halo etc, and then FFXIII is released a year or two later, exclusive to the PS3 next gen, I will very begrudgingly buy a PS3 to play the game. Why wouldn't anyone be against 1 console in which you could play both your Halos AND you could play your Final Fantasys/Metal Gears? I betcha loads and loads of 360 owners lit up a celebratory cigar when it was revealed that GTA IV was going multi-platform - how can it viewed that this is bad thing? The way I see it, people seem to relish it when "they" steal another console's exclusive, like DMC4, but when one of "their" games, like Eternal Sonata (back on topic ;P) goes over to their competitor, they bitch and whine about it.

Stocka

24-04-2007, 09:28 PM

I never said I was against one console, I didn't meant to come across that way. I was posing the question, as I wanted to know whether that is what you would want. I think I would infact prefer for there to be just one console, but because there isn't and there are three, I like to think that there's games on each ones that make them unique, as otherwise I see no point in them all existing.

Hero-of-Time

25-04-2007, 07:19 AM

Have to say that this is a great discussion guys, good job keeping it friendly.

Retro_Link

25-04-2007, 12:27 PM

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070425_125546_0_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/52441320070425_125547_1_big.jpg

Stocka

25-04-2007, 01:56 PM

Have to say that this is a great discussion guys, good job keeping it friendly.
Me and Laguna have legendary debates. We love it :smile: We disagree on many things but discuss them in a constructive way.

Great new scans!

Retro_Link

26-04-2007, 08:52 PM

Japanese Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18947&type=wmv&pl=game

Looks great!

Stocka

05-05-2007, 04:59 PM

Quite negative 1up preview
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/11239

Sanchez

05-05-2007, 06:06 PM

11111UPPPPP!!! :mad:

Calza

05-05-2007, 07:17 PM

I still think this is going to be really good however the english voice acting...

Is this getting dual lanuage support aswell? I sure hope so :(

EDIT : According to 1up it is, yay :D

immy

06-05-2007, 10:11 PM

i agree with shane, the game seems pretty average.

bring on ff13

flameboy

07-05-2007, 12:41 PM

looks awesome to me, nice art direction, would love to see this on the wii...

Daft

14-05-2007, 09:11 AM

There is a demo on Xbox Live for anyone who has a Japanese account!!! I'm downloading it now!!!

Sanchez

14-05-2007, 11:18 AM

Me too, Made a japanese account just for this but i'm getting armoured core while i'm at it. 3% complete. EXCITING.

It's all in english btw.

Daft

14-05-2007, 12:26 PM

The demo has made me want to get this game even more! Why is the demo in english if it is a Japanese demo??

Mundi

14-05-2007, 12:33 PM

I was wondering about that too....
Didn´t really like the ending you know the: Coming this September! Part :(

Daft

14-05-2007, 01:54 PM

Well, aslong as it comes in September here (or soon after)or is region free i'll be happy...I hope they keep the Japanese language option.
I like the fighting but I got a bit confused about how you apply healing items to a certain character during battle!

The other thing which is kind of annoying is the fixed camera in open areas like the field with the flowers. Overall it was awesome!

Mundi

14-05-2007, 02:41 PM

I wouldn´t be surprised if it will be near simultaneously released in Japan and America.
Hopefully region free

Sanchez

14-05-2007, 03:17 PM

It was an american box art so my hopes are high for a near simultaneous world release.
The game is good, definitely ToS' spiritual successor.

Tellyn

14-05-2007, 03:58 PM

I might make a Japanese account tonight with my free month so that I can get this demo and a few others, sounds good.

Daft

14-05-2007, 04:19 PM

You only need a silver account so you don't need to use up your free month. Also I'm not sure if the code would work accross regions, just like you can't register XBL points from the UK on an American account...I might be wrong though!

The-Ironflame

14-05-2007, 11:23 PM

I quite like it from trying the demo. It's what's my 360 is lacking so far and that's a good quality Epic JRPG. I really want to play this for longer. :(

Hero-of-Time

27-05-2007, 05:40 PM

Thanks to Daft for the help I have now played the demo and loved every second of it, it was so colourful! I may give it another go as there were a few paths that i didnt take in the forest. Bring on September!!

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2007, 07:55 PM

There is a new video on US Marketplace with english voice overs, looks simply gorgeous.

Calza

30-06-2007, 10:53 PM

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/06/faceplatesES.jpg

Americans get one of those when they pre-order.

We better get them aswell or heads will roll.

Hero-of-Time

01-07-2007, 07:42 AM

They are awesome! I will be keeping my eye on ebay.

Stefkov

01-07-2007, 10:30 PM

Wow, they all look amazing.
I'd want all but knowing me if I got one I'd want one of the others...

The Bard

01-07-2007, 10:48 PM

Shit damn, this game looks beautiful.

Hero-of-Time

02-07-2007, 08:05 AM

I just read on Gamecentral this morning that Eternal Sontana only lasted 1 week in the Japanese charts, Microsoft just cant catch a break over there.

Calza

02-07-2007, 10:33 AM

At the moment pre-orders for Halo 3 is beating everything else on the most selling Japanese amazon list. That also includes Dragon Quest Swords.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/

Stefkov

12-07-2007, 02:10 PM

HD trailer on 360.
Same video I've seen on gametrailers I think but in HD this looks beautiful. Really really does.

triforce_keeper

17-08-2007, 02:38 PM

Just played the demo.

Bloody amazing.

Pre-ordered :D

Stefkov

17-08-2007, 10:53 PM

The demo is amazing. It looks so nice, especially that flower field.

Daft

18-08-2007, 11:25 AM

The only super minor micro tiny thing that was kinda annoying was the fixed camera in the village...but thats mainly becaue I want to inspect everything really closely beacuse it looks awesome...good enough to eat even...

Hero-of-Time

18-08-2007, 11:26 AM

I hear we are getting this in November and im hoping it does well over here in the western world so that we will get more JRPGs. I wish we were getting this next week instead of Blue Dragon. Dont get me wrong I want BD its just that ES is so much prettier and looks easier to get into.

Stefkov

18-08-2007, 01:19 PM

November would be awesome, I am looking frward to it more than Blue Dragon. The fighting in ES, even though it was turn based it felt a lot better than the one in BD.
Just standing there, waiting for your character to move is a bit boring imo.
Whereas moving around and bashing buttons combing that A hitting attack and then the Y special move was just great.

Marshmellow

20-08-2007, 12:14 PM

Just played the demo today. Wow, this game looks absolutely beautiful in full 1080p! I'm still bouncing around the idea of getting it though. I kind of like, kind of don't like the 'take turns' battle type thingy.

Eddage

20-08-2007, 04:58 PM

Played the demo earlier today and whilst it was a piece of piss I really enjoyed it! The game looks absolutely stunning and is now right up there on my most wanted list!

Stefkov

05-09-2007, 09:12 AM

October release date (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=82708)
This and Naruto would be awesome in one month.

Hero-of-Time

05-09-2007, 11:49 AM

October release date (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=82708)
This and Naruto would be awesome in one month.

Its crazy! The end of the year will be a packed on for the 360.

ShadowV7

05-09-2007, 11:59 PM

October release date (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=82708)
This and Naruto would be awesome in one month.

Ah man, there is so much games coming out from now untill Christmas that I want. I mean the amount want in Q4 is nearly the amount of games i've bought in the last year...

UziT

10-09-2007, 12:47 AM

The demo is out for us folks right?

Hero-of-Time

11-09-2007, 01:26 PM

Good news for those who have a PS3, looks like its heading to that console aswell.

http://www.namcobandaigames.com/games/eternalsonata/

Stefkov

11-09-2007, 04:53 PM

Not there anymore. Also Sept 17th US date!

Hopefully October date for us is set in stone.

Hero-of-Time

11-09-2007, 05:03 PM

Not there anymore. Also Sept 17th US date!

Hopefully October date for us is set in stone.

Wonder why they took the PS3 part down?

Stefkov

11-09-2007, 05:09 PM

I was wondering that. Maybe it was a mistake and it's gonna be revealed at TGS.
An exclusive would be very nice, but mulitplatform would be more money for them.

Hero-of-Time

14-09-2007, 09:35 AM

I see that is in fact on the PS3 aswell, Famitsu revealed this.

Also IGN have gave the 360 version a review, it scored higher than Blue Dragon which is great news as I thought BD was awesome.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/819/819923p1.html

Retro_Link

15-09-2007, 12:13 PM

Gametrailers Review - 8.6

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24973.html

Daft

09-10-2007, 02:48 PM

10 days to go! I can't wait!!

Apparently its short for a JRPG but it sounds like the perfect length for me.

pre ordered for around £32!!

Hero-of-Time

09-10-2007, 03:38 PM

10 days to go! I can't wait!!

Apparently its short for a JRPG but it sounds like the perfect length for me.

pre ordered for around £32!!

Yeah but if your an achievy whore like myself you have to go through the game twice to get them all.

Mundi

18-10-2007, 04:38 PM

This is out tomorrow right?

Eddage

18-10-2007, 05:14 PM

Yeah, I got my copy of it in the post this morning along with Orange Box (PC version). May have a quick bash later if I get Blue Dragon finished!

Domstercool

19-10-2007, 12:35 PM

Gah, My copy still hasn't come, it was posted weds along with Zelda, I got Zelda on Thurs, and still today no Eternal Sonata, gah messed up post. ¬_¬

Sanchez

21-10-2007, 09:11 PM

I just finished chapter 4 (11 hours so far), it's a great game, I love the battles, unsure about the characters, I think they might be a little undeveloped but i'll have to wait until I finish to give the final verdict. Graphics are amazing. Hate some of the poses they pull with their arms sticking out and the gravity defying dresses tho. I will play through again for the achievements and for the pleasure of course.

Mundi

21-10-2007, 10:12 PM

Rargh! I want this game!
Stupid stores not stocking it yet.....

Stefkov

21-10-2007, 10:48 PM

Bought this for £35 down in london. Will play it this week.

The-Ironflame

23-10-2007, 03:08 PM

I've started it and it seems alright. The world art seems alot better than Blue Dragon but it doesn't seem as sharp in Eternal Sonata and I really want to be able to move the camera so I can see where I'm going and so I can look more closely at the graphics.

The battle system is quite fun although it's very simplistic and easy because you have no magic points you can use magic and special moves unlimited times and the dialogue seems to drag on alot which is a tad annoying but the storyline seems very unique if not epic. It's also very linear but quite well designed I'll see if it gets tiring later and the music gives me the Baten Kaitos vibes.

Domstercool

23-10-2007, 03:13 PM

Started up this game today, sooo pretty!

Stefkov

25-10-2007, 05:39 PM

I need to say.
Piu Grave is the best move ever.
As is Sun Slash, and sky Divider...this game rocks.

Don't know if i like the voice over in English of Japanese. I've just had the first few hours or so in Japanese and changing to English is seems so ..american.

Mundi

26-10-2007, 11:11 AM

Finally getting this in about 2 hours.
Local store finally decided to stock the game....

Hero-of-Time

27-10-2007, 04:53 PM

Finally picked this up today, havent started it yet due to playing for points :) Should get it started tonight though, well looking forward to it.

Mundi

28-10-2007, 12:52 PM

Gotten a couple hours in with my friend and so far i´m loving it!
The music is incredible in this game makes me love my sound system :Þ

The-Ironflame

28-10-2007, 06:28 PM

I've enjoyed it so far but the dialogue and storyline is the worst I've ever read of all the RPG's I've played.
The Graphics are very good maybe not great because it's not quite that sharp but the art work is stunning and so is the music, it's alot like Baten Kaitos in those departments.

The Battle system is fun but can get a tad repetitive because it's not very deep and the game is very linear, sometimes it's tolerable sometimes it's not.
Overall I think it's worth playing but it's not as well developed as Blue Dragon. Mistwalker did a better job with that than Tri-Crescendo did with Eternal Sonata.

Stefkov

30-10-2007, 07:55 PM

Just gotten through Fort Fermata.
I used a guide to just guide me until the boss there, now I'm playing it through without a guide until I get really stuck.

Kinda lucky I read the guide though. I've now figured I'm going to have to replay the game. You can only get some items or something on the 'encore' so it's a 2 play through game. You can get score pieces you missed aswell...(missed the first one...:/)

Domstercool

30-10-2007, 11:24 PM

I'll only play through it once, don't really have time to replay a RPG through twice, just look at all the games coming, lol.

Hero-of-Time

31-10-2007, 06:17 AM

I'll only play through it once, don't really have time to replay a RPG through twice, just look at all the games coming, lol.

I havent got the time to play this once! It has been sitting on my shelf since Friday.

Stefkov

04-11-2007, 06:33 PM

Got onto Chapter 3 now.
The moves some of the characters have. I envy the brains and thoughts of some people. To come up with what they have come up with...

jeez.

Hero-of-Time

04-11-2007, 08:16 PM

I still have yet to put this in my disk tray! My mate has pretty much finished it for the first time and took him around 25 hours, thats getting everything you can achievement wise.

Stefkov

05-11-2007, 12:57 AM

Hero-of-Time

05-11-2007, 08:20 AM

First time through I'm doing it without a guide, like I said. It's sooo (excessive use of the o that's how good it is) good.
Visually, it's one of the best looking games of the year and I don't tire of saying that.
Storywise I think it's pretty solid.
Beat just got smacked across the head before, I felt proper pissed.

I just go to Chapter 4 anyway and I'm loving every minute. Adam mate, just put it in an play through it without a guide, then when you finish it there's an encore mode where the enemies are harder and where (I read) there are items and score pieces you can ony get on the second play through.
I'm just up to 10 hours now I think, and I've heard it's a 20/25 hour game, but being deadly serious, at least half of those 5 hours have been amazing looking cutscenes.
Just play it and be amazed.

I really want to but I know CoD4 will pull me away from it and then after that there is an onslaught of Wii titles. The reason why I LOVED playing Blue Dragon was because I was focused on that and had no other games distracting me, I want that when playing this aswell. Im of work in a couple of weeks for a week so I will probably play through it then.

Wesley

05-11-2007, 08:28 PM

I played the demo of this... didn't move me much. Very simple and easy. But, looked fun. Something I would buy when during a drought.

Eddage

07-11-2007, 04:16 PM

Finished this in the early hours of the this morning, completed the Mysterious Unison side dungeon as well. Was left rather speechless by the ending, simply because I didn't know what the hell was going on!?

Seriously if anyone else who has completed this game can explain the end then I would greatly appreciate it, because I though the rest of the game was fantastic!

Stefkov

07-11-2007, 04:27 PM

I've seen you playing this religously over the past few days.
Me and Nintenchris are on about chapter 5 so when we finish I can comment on the ending, I've heard its pretty wierd.

Eddage

07-11-2007, 05:11 PM

I've seen you playing this religously over the past few days.
Me and Nintenchris are on about chapter 5 so when we finish I can comment on the ending, I've heard its pretty wierd.

Yeah, I wanted to get it finished so I could move onto Orange Box before Sunshine and Assassins Creed come out!

Also, regarding the ending, weird is the mother of all understatements!

Caris

07-11-2007, 05:18 PM

Sunshine? lawl.

Eddage

07-11-2007, 05:29 PM

Whoopsies

Galaxy :heh:

Stefkov

04-12-2007, 06:23 PM

So...
I'm on Chapter 7 now. This game is really, really good. The story is getting interesting, the graphics are amazing all the way through and the moves are just jawdropping.
I think I will play through this again, definitely.

Hero-of-Time

05-12-2007, 07:11 PM

I finally gave this a go today but it didnt end well. I put it on and...well...just what the hell is up with that cutscene at the start? Its on for like 15 freaking mins and its not interesting at all! Im not usually bothered about cutscenes as I love the MGS series but this was just too much. Probably because I was on 6-2 and have been up since 5, knocked it off just after the cutscene finished as it crushed my will to live. Looked nice though :heh:

Hero-of-Time

08-12-2007, 12:14 PM

Having finished my latest batch of point whoring games and waiting for some new ones to show up I decided to try and play this again and I finally have gotten into it.

Just nearing the end of the 1st chapter now and im finding it highly enjoyable. I still prefer the standard turn-based moves on RPGs though.

One thing that I do detest is the history lesson you get with various cutscenes about Chopins career. I couldnt care or less about who the love of his life was, just let me get back to killing things.

Stefkov

08-12-2007, 12:38 PM

I actually love the whole story telling. The history of Chopin etc. It's why the game was made after all.
I was reading an interview and it said, most of the Japanese people had heard of Chopin but couldn't put a tune to his name.
Now the second part I'd understand but I'd never heard of Chopin until now.

I got into the Mysterious Unison, and got killed by some mightily strong pirate looking people. So I gave up ad gonna go at it another time. The mysterious Unison is pretty big after going through 2 rooms. It's gona take a while and I'll play when I feel like it.

Hero-of-Time

29-06-2008, 01:14 PM

Big bumpage :)

I have once again started to play this over the past week and although I still hate the story and cutscenes I am enjoying the gameplay.

There is some pirate woman called Dolce ( sp? ) which always gives me a beating. I have defeated her a few times but she always ends up killing at least 1 of my team mates. Its weird because I nail all of the boss fights at the end of the chapters but this bitch is really giving me a hard time.

I have just started chapter 6 now, hopefully I wont run into her again.

Stefkov

29-06-2008, 01:19 PM

Hero-of-Time

29-06-2008, 01:24 PM

I never really had a problem with Dolce. If you're using Beat then there's your problem.
Dolce drops items that are necessary for one achievement, but that achievement is only gettable in your second playthrough. So if you plan to get all the achievements then you're gonna have to get used to fighting her. I think you fight her 3 times, one on the ship, one underground after looking at a flower and the third I forget.
You make me want to carry on my second playthrough.

DO IT, STEF!

Yeah I fought her on the ship, looking at the flower in the Wah Lava Cave and in a pub as she was blocking a Score Piece, not sure if I have fought her anymore.

The team I use is Retto, Viola and Falsetto but I was forced to use Frederic at one point as Falsetto had sodded off somewhere.

Stefkov

29-06-2008, 02:54 PM

DO IT, STEF!

Yeah I fought her on the ship, looking at the flower in the Wah Lava Cave and in a pub as she was blocking a Score Piece, not sure if I have fought her anymore.

The team I use is Retto, Viola and Falsetto but I was forced to use Frederic at one point as Falsetto had sodded off somewhere.
Ya those are the only 3 times you fight her if I remember rightly.
That team is the best, stick with it. Especially if you do the Mysterious Unison. The other characters level up if you never use them so it's alright to leave em be.
It's great, Retto is just get in there and fight like Falsetto, then if you want you can keep Viola back to heal and use long range weapons even though she is also a beast in CQC.
Falsetto though, she uses her fists and she's more powerful than Beat's most powerful gun that I have for him. Is crrrrazy.

flameboy

29-06-2008, 02:59 PM

I'm really looking forward to this coming to PS3...no idea when it is meant to be hitting though have played part of the 360 one and loved it.

Hero-of-Time

29-06-2008, 06:23 PM

I'm really looking forward to this coming to PS3...no idea when it is meant to be hitting though have played part of the 360 one and loved it.

I thought it wasnt getting a western release for the PS3?

Girgo

29-06-2008, 06:59 PM

I really started to hate this game when I was about halfway through the first time, I realised the game wasn't exactly what I hoped for. But I started the game again a month ago and played it through and even got all the achievements.
For an RPG the story sucks and the characters are boring, they don't have even any backround story... but the gameplay was much more funnier on the second playthrough and I'm quite glad I played it again.

flameboy

29-06-2008, 08:56 PM

I thought it wasnt getting a western release for the PS3?

rumoured may hit US so would just import.

Stefkov

29-06-2008, 11:07 PM

Japanese release it I think the end of this year. I really don't remember but I get a feeling that's what I read.
US release was later next year.
PS3 gets to play as other characters like the Prince who's name wriggles from my mind. Also it gets alternative endings aswell.
The story was fine as it was and the ending was shocking and sad.

Columnar

30-06-2008, 01:02 PM

Yeah I heard Eternal Sonata might not be getting a Western release - I could get it on 360, but as you guys have said the PS3 has loads of extras so I was waiting for that.

If the worst comes to the worst, will the game not get an Asian release with an English language option in it???

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2008, 04:39 PM

Stefkov

30-06-2008, 05:00 PM

So I get to Rondo in the Mysterious Unison and the stuipd cow gives me a beating even though im a few levels higher than her. Whats even worse is that there was no save point near her so I have to go through floor 11 all over again. Stupid bitch.....
Aye I hated the fight with Rondo.
What level are you at btw? I can't remember my level but I got beaten badly first time round, went and levels up a bit.
Went back to that town and stocked up on healing and revives.
I got the hang of Harmony Chains whilst levelling up aswell so get used to that. If you have Retto, Viola and Falsetto in good positions, as in light and dark, you can have Falsetto use (what moves I had for my characters) the ice move, then Retto was close and used his Bloody Plume, then Viola used her arrows raining down the sky. In the end I got about 4 or 5 moves off in one go when I built up the chain. You have to beat her good and proper though, block as much as you can. One of her moves is a beast and takes nearly all of your health.
(Been ages and I still remember it)
At least now you won't have to do it again in the second run through.

Dyson

30-06-2008, 05:04 PM

I'd get back in to this if I didn't have to do the stupid water temple thing.

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2008, 05:05 PM

My main 3 characters are level 76. I can do the chain attacks easily but Rondo sometimes gets random extra goes which end up nailing me. I will aim to get to level 80 before I attempt her again. Knowing I have to go through that floor again has killed my spirit though :(

Stefkov

30-06-2008, 05:07 PM

You can just run round all of the enemies can't you? At least I think I did.

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2008, 05:08 PM

You can just run round all of the enemies can't you? At least I think I did.

Yeah but I need to kill the massive black and orange badguys to get money for the stupidly expensive Soul Shard piece.

Stefkov

30-06-2008, 05:12 PM

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2008, 05:16 PM

Black and Orange? Was it not the blue and Orange beasts which were stupidly easy to kill?
Still that didn't take me long, I'd taken pictures in the past and sold them. Any items that weren't as powerful as I had equipped were all sold. By the time I'd gotten to the Unison I had tonnes of money.
Just to give you an idea, my save file my characters were all level 80 before I went up against Rondo. Lol 28 hours on my first save file. That's the most time I've spent on a game I think.
Which reminds me the end battle is so sad.

Im on around 17-20 hours at the moment. As for the cash problem I didnt bother taking any pics as I always had enough money. Yeah those blue/black/orange things are easy to kill, hell they dont even get a hit on me if I do some chaining its just that is so time consuming.

I will probably get back on it tonight and see if I can beat the bitch.

Stefkov

30-06-2008, 05:20 PM

I will probably get back on it tonight and see if I can beat the bitch.
Haha, you show her!

Man I'm having so much trouble with the first massive Pig you fight in Heaven's Mirror with Polka and Fred. I feel this playthrough will involve plenty of Guide>dashboard>start up game again.

Letty

30-06-2008, 08:19 PM

I was totally getting into Eternal Sonata recently until I got to that stupid fort after the bridge. I lost all motivation when I realised what I had to do... T_T

Hero-of-Time

30-06-2008, 09:17 PM

All done!

Beat the hell out of Rondo when I went back at level 79! Then the last boss in the Mysterious Unison was in for a beating as I levelled up while I was getting cash for the last soul. Lastly, the last boss was a real pushover what with me being level 85 and him being 59 :) Lets just see if I can keep going and play through it a 2nd time....

Stefkov

30-06-2008, 10:13 PM

Lastly, the last boss was a real pushover what with me being level 85 and him being 59 :) Lets just see if I can keep going and play through it a 2nd time....
When I found out about the last boss I wanted him to have really crappy gear, but like I said I sold all my crap items so everyone had the best items I could find.
As for the second time, I'm having trouble on some of the bosses, being only level 5 or 6 with no good special moves, but with Party level 6, this Baby Dragon in the Agogo forest is really annoying. Especially having more health and whatnot.

3 hours in and I just got up to Fort Fermata. This game is so good.

Hero-of-Time

01-07-2008, 05:24 PM

Stefkov

01-07-2008, 05:29 PM

I started my 2nd run when I got in from work today and I have just finished the first chapter.

The normal bad guys are pretty much the same but the bosses seem to be alot tougher than they were on the 1st time through.
Yeah, the small green turnipy things are a doddle. But the massive wooden ones needed a beating. The small dragon boss was pretty hard, but when you have to save Polka that boss wasn't that hard.

Have you gotten up to Viola yet in your second run? They guy you have to give the long johns to gives you some milk, and you have to give him the milk apparently but having gone forward and backwards I can't seem to give him the milk. Did you already do this on your first play through? I'm thinking I can use the teleporter in Baroque to come back later hopefully.
PS: What did you think of it then overall? You said you hated the whole musical aspect of the story if I remember?

Hero-of-Time

01-07-2008, 05:34 PM

Yeah, the small green turnipy things are a doddle. But the massive wooden ones needed a beating. The small dragon boss was pretty hard, but when you have to save Polka that boss wasn't that hard.

Have you gotten up to Viola yet in your second run? They guy you have to give the long johns to gives you some milk, and you have to give him the milk apparently but having gone forward and backwards I can't seem to give him the milk. Did you already do this on your first play through? I'm thinking I can use the teleporter in Baroque to come back later hopefully.
PS: What did you think of it then overall? You said you hated the whole musical aspect of the story if I remember?

I havent got there yet but its just a minor trading sequence so dont worry if you miss it. The major trading sequence for an achievement happens later in the game.

Stefkov

01-07-2008, 06:19 PM

Ahaha, what guide are you using? One from Gamefaqs?

Hero-of-Time

01-07-2008, 07:05 PM

Ahaha, what guide are you using? One from Gamefaqs?

Official guide book.

Stefkov

02-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Wouldn't mind buying me one of those. I got one for Blue Dragon and that was a waste of money.
The game's pace is so much quicker if you skip the cutscenes. I'm already on Chapter 3 and I've only done 8 hours.

Hero-of-Time

06-07-2008, 11:31 AM

Ive finally got all 1000 points off the game after another 20 hour run through. The trading sidequest and the score piece sidequest are just annoying.

For the final score piece you have to get to chapter 7 and then walk all the way back through 3 MASSIVE levels/areas all so you can get the last one.

For the trading sidequest the game gives you the ability to teleport to certain areas but these areas are always miles away from where you have to be. Be the time I was finished I was sick of the sight of Hanon Hills!

Now that Eteranl Sonata is done I can finally start Lost Odyssey, had it on my shelf for a few weeks now.

martinist

06-07-2008, 10:21 PM

After abandoning this game for a number of months i've decided to come back to it. Just started chapter 3 awhile ago and i'm in some pirate ship. Everyone's level is in the low to mid 20's atm.

Stefkov

06-07-2008, 10:23 PM