"Did God create everything that exists?"

[RATM_4_EVA]

Great read it really opens some questions.

A University professor challenged his students with this question.
"Did God create everything that exists?"

A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created
evil, since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works
define who we are, then God is evil."

The student became quiet before such an answer.

The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question,
professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never
been cold?"

The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.

Absolute zero (-460F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist.

We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not
exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light.

Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least is does not exist unto itself.

Evil is simply the absence of, created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.

It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name -- Albert Einstein

[Marshmellow]

you lost me with cold....

[soag]

Reading that I said to myself "good golly he'd be one smart fellow, he'll be a great mind one of therse days" then i notiched who it was :p.

Einstein owned the prof :p

[RATM_4_EVA]

you lost me with cold....
"Absolute zero (-460F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist."

yeah I still dont know why cold dosnt exist. :heh:

[MindFreak]

That was so cool to read..:D

I like Einstein.. hehe..

However, it doesn't make me believe in God..:)

[Konfucius]

That argument is great, also wondered who this clever student was but never expected him to be Einstein.

[Jack]

He certainly didn't create everything. There's a massive beer-caused turd sitting in the bog that He definitely didn't make, and that smelly fucker's proof there can be no God. It wasn't me before you lot say anything either.

[Ford Prefect]

i doubt the authentisity (sp) of that "quote" as einstein didn't actually do that well at school, he was described as an unremarkable student. he was also dylexic as i recall.
i reckon that was probably written by some bible basher or someone and atributed to ol' albert.

[Android18a]

Well that's pretty sound by my book, anyway.

[Shenlong]

Wish i could shut down teachers like that, would be quite a skill...teach them to mess with me alas i tend to just sit there and daydream my life away...

[Ford Prefect]

Wish i could shut down teachers like that, would be quite a skill...teach them to mess with me alas i tend to just sit there and daydream my life away...


remember, they're just another brick in the wall :wink:

you'll have far bigger fish to fry once you hit the real world and you'll also find that you've got a shitload more to learn, stuff that you can never learn in any school, college or uni.

[Charlie]

Einstein owned the prof :p

I was going to say that! :p

Well and truely owned, I bet he got the belt for saying that :p

[The3rdChildren]

Poor God, he's getting very little royalties for his work nowadays.

[Dr Kong]

What a man, eh?

[Lammie]

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.

I'm no Stephen Hawking, but isn't heat caused by the prescence of energy? So therefore shouldn't be "cold is the absence of energy"?

Still, the story has nothing to do with the plausablilty of religion, it just proves the Professor is a berk.

[jakeee]

I haven't heard this story before. Thanks man! ;) Einstein sure is 1337

[MunKy]

Still, the story has nothing to do with the plausablilty of religion, it just proves the Professor is a berk.

Couldnt have put it better myself. And what the hell is 1337? I see it all over the internet and have no clue. Also is "pwnd" a way of saying owned?

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Religion is the absence of common sence.

[Arragaun]

Still, the story has nothing to do with the plausablilty of religion, it just proves the Professor is a berk.
Quite right. Extra characters...

[ThePigMarcher]

Religion is the absence of common sence.

:D :D Quality , and oh so very true

[jakeee]

pwnd = owned
1337 = leet = elite

[Charlie]

Couldnt have put it better myself. And what the hell is 1337? I see it all over the internet and have no clue. Also is "pwnd" a way of saying owned?

1337 = leet - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
pwned =owned

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx

That's a very good (and funny :p) article on leetspeak, as written by Microsoft.

The last line is the best. :D

[thecreepingmess]

Great read it really opens some questions.

A University professor challenged his students with this question.
"Did God create everything that exists?"

A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created
evil, since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works
define who we are, then God is evil."

The student became quiet before such an answer.

The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question,
professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never
been cold?"

The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.

Absolute zero (-460F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist.

We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not
exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light.

Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least is does not exist unto itself.

Evil is simply the absence of, created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.

It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name -- Albert Einstein

None of that actually happened. It's as mythical as God himself.

[MunKy]

Wow all that "leet" stuff has to be the epitome of pointless. I honestly thought it would be hard to find something as useless as religion but there it is. I fart in your general direction!(111!!!!11!!!!, etc)

[GoonFace]

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[RoadKill]

Albert Einstein is awesome but god doesn't exist.

http://www.zen51445.zen.co.uk/images/occams.gif

[Monopolyman]

http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

But I don't really care who said it, really. It still is one of the best things I've read.

[kopo]

Haha good 'ol Albert, always in for a little n00b bashing.

And for the record, humans created god :p

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

lil' quickie, see who knows it; if an unstoppable object meets an immovable force, what happens?

[Monopolyman]

lil' quickie, see who knows it; if an unstoppable object meets an immovable force, what happens?


The two cannot exist in the same universe, I believe.

[RoadKill]

lil' quickie, see who knows it; if an unstoppable object meets an immovable force, what happens?

This seems like the most reasonable response:

"If an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, the force will simply assume a different vector. This is super simple physics at work. If you are trying to say that the force cannot change vectors then the force will simply change form such as in the form of sound energy, heat energy, light energy, whatever."

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Why not?

I mean, that's just the easy way out :P There is a lame answer (not too lame, don't worry) and.. that ain't it

[Monopolyman]

Think about it. Say the immoveable object stops the unstoppable object, the unstoppable object cannot be unstoppable, as it has been stopped, and vice versa. One of them will have to give in.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

yeah BUT.. Read what I said. That's not the answer I'm looking for. I think I'll just say it now, as it might get built up and people could get dissapointed.

The unstoppable object becomes immovable, and the immovable force becomes unstoppable. Y'see? Like those metal balls you see on an executives office desk where the forces get transferred. Bah, go read Walking On Glass - Iain Banks. I'd bet Bowser57 would know what I'm talking about.

[mario114]

"Absolute zero (-460F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist."

yeah I still dont know why cold dosnt exist. :heh:


Cold as it was said is just a term, our mesure of temprature, really measures to energy particles have, and when you get to -273.556 (right?) the particles stop moving, so really what cold is is just slower moving particles, so you could just say its less "heat" or energy then a warmer object.

-And it's a neat story, weather or not einstein said it, though it wouldn't suprise me, as i think he had a belive in God on some level.


A less intelligent but easier answer could have just been that he allowed freedom of choice rather than making us puppets.

[Alterego]

Einstine pwnd that teacher well and trewly! lol i lik ethat article on elete talk lol! :P

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[Bowser57]

I'd bet Bowser57 would know what I'm talking about.

And you'd win that bet baby!

[er-no]

Pretty cool argument. Doesn't really top Hume's readings or Descartes Meditations where he claims the devil is infact God and is deceiving us all (meditations II).

Love philosophy. Ironic how they all end up apeshit insane or kill themselves.

*runs at himself with a carving knife*

[christophicus]

"Did God create everything that exists?"

No.

[GoonFace]

^^ Obiviously, because that would mean he created himself, which is of course impossible.

[RATM_4_EVA]

Can someone tell me the difference from the chirstian god and lets say, the Hindu, or ancient Greek's. the only diff. I see is that the Jewish faith just thrived longer, grew and divided then multiplied. It is more popular because it thrived in Europe. If it was another religion, we would be praying to another god or gods or something. :heh:

[rokhed00]

yeah BUT.. Read what I said. That's not the answer I'm looking for. I think I'll just say it now, as it might get built up and people could get dissapointed.

The unstoppable object becomes immovable, and the immovable force becomes unstoppable. Y'see? Like those metal balls you see on an executives office desk where the forces get transferred. Bah, go read Walking On Glass - Iain Banks. I'd bet Bowser57 would know what I'm talking about.


Meh, no such thing as an immovable object anyway, everything in the universe is in motion.

Come to think of it, everything in the universe is moving with an unstoppable force.

[#1cubeplayer]

To prove that God doesn't/does exist you'd have to specify what interpretation of God you were referring to. I could say that God to me is any forces we've yet to understand, and in that case wouldn't my God exist? Well, that's just an excuse, but I'm not religious.

[KingJoe]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/perdition/owned.jpg

made me laugh.
a lot.

[Ford Prefect]

I'm no Stephen Hawking, but isn't heat caused by the prescence of energy? So therefore shouldn't be "cold is the absence of energy"?




yes and no, its incredibly hard to remove all energy from an object or area. there's even energy in a vacuum. in actual fact theres no such thing as a true vacuum really...