It would appear nothing is sacred.

[Jordan]

So their "innovative" controller has stolen half the Wiimotes functions.

Thoughts?

[The3rdChildren]

Yeah, Sony can go fuck themselves. I closed the video stream down when I saw the guy controlling the plane with the Duel Shock 3.

Dirty, no good bastards.

[Hellfire]

Dear Sony,
Die, die, die, die.
P.S.: Die.

[blender]

that flying game was crap. no way was it designed for the controller. it was a complete last minute panic decision and probably news to a lot of studios

[Domstercool]

More the merrier I guess. I just want my games! GEMME 2007!

[DiemetriX]

So how many fanboys are going to say nintedo copied sony?

[Ginger_Chris]

all i saw that conference, were stolen ideas, not a single thing was origional, either stolen from microsoft or nintendo. However, xbox live will be the best online system out of the 2, because microsoft has already invested millions into it. The FHC will be better because nintendo developed it bcasue the wanted too, not because they wanted to steal it.

they are selling something for $500 that does alot of things half arsed and a load of unorigional games. yes, people will buy it, and it will sell in millions, but im still going to buy wii, and thats all that matters to me

[Aimless]

All I can say is that this image (http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5489/sonysteals5dq.jpg) is far funnier than it was when it was made several months ago.

[SpinesN]

As much as I feel sick after seeing this turn of events I have to say it can only help nintendo. A while back there was speculation that the revo would be the base dev platform due to love cost and being the lowest common hardware set. The big problem was the controller and sony fixed that right up for nintendo.

Mark my words.
The Wii WILL become the base development platform for this generation for multi-platform games.

[Incomplete]

PLAYSTATION THWii!!

Honestly, if they use the name Playstation ThWii I'll buy 10 and give them away to starving ethiopians who can pawn them off on eBay at inflated prices and use that money to save their villages.

Playstation ThWii, the console of saints.... i can see it all now.

Kirby tilt n' tumble ftw :)

[Din]

I can't actually beleive that they say it's a fantastic innovation. Shameless bastards.

[Yoshiking]

I made a post about this on another forum.. Let's see, I'll just copy+paste as I don't see any reason to type all the same over again.
Oh, predictable bad move by Sony, how I hate thee.

This controller? Bullshit. Let's see. It has motion detection. Again, it's dual shock, with motion detection. BUT WAIT! It's without dual shock!
So, hang on. This is a regular controller, with motion detection, which (I don't know much on it right now, but just assuming) won't be the deepest of motion detections as.. well, it's still a regular controller. So here we get a regular controller, with no rumble pack, and a lame gimmick (yeah, I know, they copied Nintendo, but when they do it in a lame way like that it's a gimmick).

Well, in any case, I kinda saw this coming. They don't even have rumble now. Seriously. THEY. DONT. HAVE. RUMBLE. What the hell has gotten into them. Thank god I wasn't getting a PS3 anyway.. At least at $599.. *scoffs*

By the way, just to clarify, I'm not fussed they copied Nintendo right now. They would have to at some point anyway. Now it's like they're acknowledging that this is the direction in which gaming is going.. And in any case, Nintendo is still miles ahead, and 360 will just be more and more lagging behind.

I know that post was a ramble but it was pretty much my thoughts at the time. I did not watch the conference and I posted that at 6am before I left for school, so.. Excuse any misinformation. This was bound to happen sooner or later. When has Sony not copied Nintendo? If they hadn't, they wouldn't even be in the business.
I'm gonna watch the conference soon probably. And laugh at them.. If I can find it.

EDIT: Oh, and yeah, what Din said. The only thing that pisses me off is that they claim the idea to be theirs. Copying isn't good, but it's passable. Claiming you DIDN'T copy, is not.

[1UP]

Sony PS3 - Now with Xbox Live and Wiimote.

[masaki86]

I'm very annoyed at Sony; but the fact remains I'm still gonna buy a PS3 anyway. However, the controller has nothing to do with it.

The wii-mote has motion sensors as its core, and it is the primary funtion of the console with games being developed around the idea of movement. The PS3 version is just simply an afterthought, and more than likely, will only be gimmcky things like adjusting your afterouch in burnout......

[AshMat]

Fucking sony, fucking bastards, all the fanboys go on saying our controller is shite, now they're bumming sony's because it's sony.
FUCKING SONY

[Yoshiking]

"We're certainly not interested in gimmicks". That's what Sony's CEO says. Right there. In the beginning.
I claim "bullshit".

[AshMat]

I jsut noticed something else, reading all the info on ign:

People can pick up for "The PlayStation Card" at retailers
So it's nintendo's sensors
And Microsoft's card

[Charlie]

We've been talking about 'beaming' games to the DS since TGS, Sony obviously took that too.

[Atomic Boo]

Yep. Nintendo need to make sure they release before sony otherwise people think nintendo are scamming sony. Oh dear how would we get the message in those thick heads of theirs, the people who dont listen, the people that think theyre right all the time.

[Mimternet]

I can't actually beleive that they say it's a fantastic innovation. Shameless bastards.

Stealing the idea - albeit nowhere near of Nintendo's motion sensing quality - is expected, but calling it an "innovation". Dirtiest business guys yet! It IS an innovation, but not Sony's!

[Smiter]

I'm just laughing my head off.

I shut the video stream and went to sleep at 2am because I had been bored after an hour of watching pretty graphics and no new ideas. I missed the interesting bit!

Shameless b*****ds. They brand Nintendo as gimmicky then they go ahead and reveal they ripped off the Wiimote, even claiming they invented it first!

I would be very interested to know what the reaction was. Surely all the journalists in that room weren't as stupid as Sony seemed to think they were.

At least Sony's copy was half-arsed and nowhere near as good.

I'm going to be very interested in hearing what Reggie has to say. XDD

[SpinesN]

I think a few of you are going a bit overboard on the stealing issue. It's more the timing than anything that pisses me off.

[Jay]

"We're not interested in gimmicks..."

Singstar?
Buzz?
Using your PSP as a rear view mirror in a PS3 F1 game?
Stealing Nintendo's idea and turning it into a cheap gimmick?

Yeah, you're not interested in gimmicks.

Regardless, it won't have the impact the Wii controller will and if anything it just shows Sony as the shameless idiots they are.

The Wii controller was designed from the ground-up for the system, so every game could use it, the controller is designed so such control is comfy and suitable. Due to the shape of the PS3 controller it won't be suitable for a lot of games - FPS/Strategy games for example will work on Wii because its like a pointer, due to the dual shock 3's shape you won't be able to use it as a pointer. I think we'll see it used as a tacked on gimmick in racing games/flight games and very little else personally.

[david.dakota]

Nintendo no doubt expected this - Miyamoto went so far as to say it would be corporate pride that would stop the competition from including wii features...

Is Miyamoto-san suggesting Sony have little to no corporate pride?

[Yoshiking]

Are you suggesting they do? Sony have not shame in their vocabulary.

[Jay]

http://uk.revolution.ign.com/articles/705/705870p1.html

Read that - Basically it seems that the functionality is the same as in the analogue stick attachment and similar to the technology in the likes of Kirbys: Tilt and Tumble and Wario Ware Twisted - It won't have nearly the amount of functions the Wii controller has and as its a tacked on feature its unlikely to be used for much. Not only that but its still the same off-putting controller to non-gamers.

[Owen]

I'm appalled. I don't care if it's nothing like the Wii controller. They showed a controller last year, shaped like a boomerang without motion sensors in it.

Nintendo announce a controller with a motion sensor, everyone likes it.

Sony then reveal a control with a motion sensor in it.

As a company this is VERY embarressing.

My only worry is, people may go with 'playstaion' because they have done all their lives. Nintendo might be beaten by it's own idea, which is awfully sad and irritating.

Nintendo has to pull something out of the bag today! Which will totally blow Sony out of the water!

and you know what? There hiding something.....;)

[RedShell]

You see, this is why Nintendo should keep everything secret until the last minute, and why its fans shouldn't moan when then they don’t show/announce anything so we don't pressurise them to reveal stuff too early.

Either way, I don’t think this will prove to be much of a problem for Nintendo, I’m sure they were expecting it actually. I know I was.

[21st century cowboy]

May just say sony you are unoriginal tossers. Lets hope Nintendo show sony up with it's tagged on movement sensor.

[Smiter]

Aye, while the technology isn't exactly the same, it's the idea behind this. It's just plainly obvious that Sony decided to rip off another of Nintendo's ideas after they originally unveiled a boomerang that everyone hated.

Well, I have a good feeling about the Nintendo conference later. :) As other posters have said, Nintendo are still hiding at least one more ace. There are even hints that the "final secret" is even bigger than the Wiimote.

I really hope Nintendo show Sony just what true innovation is.

[Skyla]

Sorry for replying again - See main article - But...

When I think about it, this is really a good thing for the games industry.

This could mean a world-wide acceptance of tilt/ gyration controllers! If Sony is making a tiltable controller too, no one can call it a gimmick anymore, really. It's the next step in controllers, like the analogue stick!

I can't wait for this change in controller design. I am a studying game designer; this would definately make game design, and game playing, much more interesting.

How long till Microsoft reveals their tiltable controller? :laughing:


+ Who cares if Sony is making a replica. Nintendo came up with the idea first. I just hope they will always be known as the ones who first created a motion-sensor controller. I don't want Sony to take any of the credit :p

[Haver]

Where it differs substantially is in the fact that it includes technology that ties character movement on screen to that of players' hands. That is, as players move their hands around, the controller automatically senses the movement and translates it to character movement on screen.

That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have, and it is not known if Nintendo's own forthcoming next-generation console, the Wii, will have similar functionality.

larlarlarlarlar

[ViPeR]

Wow, they really do suck ass. Now all they need to do is stick a touch screen on the PSP and have a plumber mascot who visits vegetable based kingdoms.

[Waylander]

News just in. Sony announce new name for their new console...

The Playstation Wii60.

I watched the last 40 minutes of the Sony conferance and I didnt see anything that would make me get a PS3. I was interested in getting one but as soon as they showed the motion detection in the controller, I now have no intention in getting one. The fantastic 360 and the Wii will do me for the next gen.

I hope the PS3 crashes and burns.

[Stocka]

I HATE you sony

[Smiter]

Before the Sony conference, I did consider getting the PS3 as a second console.

Now? No way in hell.

Sure, there is the motion sensing ripoff, but what really struck me was how the PS3 is mainly composed of ideas stolen from both Nintendo and Microsoft. Not only that, but it has extremely expensive technology (Bluray etc.) that will only be useful if you also happen to own an expensive HDTV.

The games themselves were very pretty, but offered nothing new apart from that card game. In short, almost everything could be done on PS2 (just with weaker graphics).

PS3? Unoriginal, overpriced, never going to appeal to non-gamers.

Sony also likes to think everyone is stupid.

EDIT: Sorry, couldn't resist making this. :grin:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h149/armagilius/obiwankaz.gif

Behold; Obi-Wan Kaz Hirai!

[Domstercool]

http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/e3blog.html?topic_id=24600407

Microsoft, not Nintendo

[conzer16]

WHAT!!!! FFS, thats what the wii does + seemingly much much better.

[Domstercool]

Jeff from Gamespot said it actually works quite well. O_O

[Daroh]

Oh come on, you guys cant honestly say you never seen this happening?
It was just obvious they were going to copy, its what Sony does best!
They change it slightly then try and implant into peoples minds that its a new and innovative idea.

It was inevitable.

[Mundi]

http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/e3blog.html?topic_id=24600407

Microsoft, not Nintendo
I´ve played with one of these controller..... and i tell ya it´s hard very hard

[Ice9]

I want to hear what that Choze idiot would have to say on the matter...

[The Lillster]

I want to hear what that Choze idiot would have to say on the matter...

Choze, I havn't seen him on here in ages, even on the Rival Boards.

I wander where he went? - Not that I care.

[Hero-of-Time]

Choze, I havn't seen him on here in ages, even on the Rival Boards.

I wander where he went? - Not that I care.

Yeah he kinda just disappeared. I liked reading his Sony loving posts and the arguements to always caused...ah goodtimes.

[BeerMonkey]

Nintendo shouldnt have unveiled the controller until this years E3 then it would have been too late for sony to copy.

I cant beleive they copyed nintendo...just hope now all the fanboys will have the correct story and not think that sony created this motion sensor thing.

Nintendo worked hard creating that controller and even delayed the unveiling of it cause they thought it was THAT special..and to have it copyed is just bogus

[The fish]

One question. Are they claiming they came up with this idea?

If so, you get the AK's, I'll get the RPG...

[Mundi]

One question. Are they claiming they came up with this idea?

If so, you get the AK's, I'll get the RPG...


dips on the mustard gas!

[Hellfire]

Rock and load people.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5895/gotime2mb.jpg

[The fish]

dips on the mustard gas!

Remember the gasmasks then.

[DCK]

Honestly I didn't expect that. They suck.

The good part is that the thing is nowhere near as functional. It can't determine where the controller is, it can't determine depth - this really only means Yoshi's Tilt 'n' Tumble on 1080p.

I kind of want Nintendo to sue them, though it's not really similar to the Wiimote.

I'm loving the irony of them calling it gimmicky and the fact that they're reusing the old dual shock design once more.

[Blackfox]

Guys, its business.

[Babooo]

There no need to worry ninty fans. After seeing the ninty conference the Wii will blow the PS3 out of the water....

[triforce_keeper]

well i hope so babooo because nintendo deserve every penny they get. Sony dont. Sonys money should go to the starving kids in the poor countrys.

Sony=Pile if shit END OF

[Blackfox]

Why do Nintendo deserve theirs and Sony do not?

[Bluejay]

Personally, I think its hilarious. Sony copying an idea, that before the conference today, hadn't even been shown off properly. Developers won't know how to use the feature or whether they are expected to and it will be used awkwardly and wrongly.

However, If it sells more Sony consoles and Wii doesn't and Nintendo go bankrupt I doubt my sense of homour will remain.

Also, great thread title.

[AshMat]

There no need to worry ninty fans. After seeing the ninty conference the Wii will blow the PS3 out of the water....
Yes, but who expcet people like us will see the conf?

not stupid people that think sony Pwn for no reason

[Charlie]

It isn't actually a motion sensor, only a tilt sensor. Sony were talking BS at the conference...

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/05/09/011825.php

[Kurtle Squad]

Just watched part of Sony's thing:

Don't like conventional Stuff?!...WHAT...Have you seen your controller?!

Don't do Gimmicks!?....Again, Have you seen your controller's 'tilt'!?...And can anyone say EyeToy?! *Shudder*

Hypes UMD; which is going down the pan. (Dunno why it’s called UMD anyway)

That's it for now n_n

[rokhed00]

(Dunno why it’s called UMD anyway)

Useless Media Disk.

[blender]

The innovative sony controller demonstrated in all its glory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ5PY9CS9TA

As you can see its totally different to nintendos ideas

[The Bard]

I was bored so I thought I'd re-post this here ::shrug:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/q-s/scrubs2-22.jpg


^ Dr. Cox when sony announced their super pwnage controller that not only manages to have half assed tilt control, but also manages to exclude rumble while being more uncomfortable than watching American pie with your Grandma...

Below is Dr. Cox (being the bastion of testosterone driven awesomeness that he is) calling Sony "Belinda," writing it a prescription for two testicles before telling them that they are what they eat, and that they clearly went out and devoured a big fat guy didn't they?

[Caris]

The innovative sony controller demonstrated in all its glory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ5PY9CS9TA

As you can see its totally different to nintendos ideas

Quote and Laugh

[Fierce_LiNk]

This didn't need to be bumped.