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Bowser57
14-11-2005, 04:51 PM
Why haven't you played the Kameo demo? it looks nice even if the level is rather underwelming.

I have played Kameo, why haven't you read my post saying so?

It was ok and looked fairly nice, nothing mind blowing though.

Stocka
14-11-2005, 04:56 PM
I can understand Kameo not being mindblowing to play in a shop for 15 mins or so, however like Zelda its likely to be the kind of game that you need to be in the comfort of your home playing for a long session and really dive into the adventure, to get that epic feeling. I'm sure someone knows what I mean :wink:
Well I hope Kameo will be like Zelda anyway.

Jordan
14-11-2005, 04:58 PM
I have played Kameo, why haven't you read my post saying so?

It was ok and looked fairly nice, nothing mind blowing though.

Sorry mate, must have missed it.

Owen
14-11-2005, 05:04 PM
I'm really pleased with the launch line-up! All the games i wanted are there! Sad about Elder Scrolls and DOA4 though, nevermind!

So i went to Comet today, the girl there showed me the preorder slips they had recieved, literally about 9! I'm 3rd on the list! She said i will get one! because there getting loads? Really now? :wink:

However she did say, Comet are getting the CORE packs first, and the PREMIUM PACKS a week later? but i totally didn't listen to that shite, why would microsoft release the core pack first then the premium pack a week later?

Someone over on www.xbox.com forums stated the Gameplay will get their allocations figures this friday and email people saying if they got one or not!

:kiss:

Pit-Jr
14-11-2005, 05:05 PM
I tried to play Call of Duty at Wal-mart but some little kid was hogging it so i had to watch instead. The resolution and frame-rate looked incredible but theres was some major clipping going on too. I guess we can look forward to clipping next-gen too.

Matt
14-11-2005, 05:06 PM
Well I hope Kameo will be like Zelda anyway.

Yeh, in the same way Starfox Adventures was like Zelda. :lmao:

I predict Kameo will be HUGELY over-rated.

Isn't it strange that after ripping off Ocarina of Time so hugely with SFA, they proceed to emulate Majora's Mask with the whole character thing.

I wonder why Grabbed By The Ghoulies had cell-shading? :wink:

Stocka
14-11-2005, 05:18 PM
Yeh, in the same way Starfox Adventures was like Zelda. :lmao:

I predict Kameo will be HUGELY over-rated.

Isn't it strange that after ripping off Ocarina of Time so hugely with SFA, they proceed to emulate Majora's Mask with the whole character thing.

I wonder why Grabbed By The Ghoulies had cell-shading? :wink:

Well I personally enjoyed SFA, but yeah Kameo will be no Zelda. i'm sure it'll have similarities and play awesome but I can't see any game matching the zelda experience. Can't wait for Kameo though :awesome:

rokhed00
14-11-2005, 05:49 PM
Well I personally enjoyed SFA, but yeah Kameo will be no Zelda. i'm sure it'll have similarities and play awesome but I can't see any game matching the zelda experience. Can't wait for Kameo though :awesome:
Pah, Zelda is over rated anyway.
BG&E shat on wind waker.
Sure Zelda is (or at least was) a good game, but it never was the be all and end all some people think it is.

JonSt
14-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Well i'll have 6 games for launch, luckily i only have to pay for 4.

Stocka
14-11-2005, 06:04 PM
Pah, Zelda is over rated anyway.
BG&E shat on wind waker.
Sure Zelda is (or at least was) a good game, but it never was the be all and end all some people think it is.
Thats your opinion.

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 06:07 PM
Zelda, as a series, is amazing! But not the best...

anyway we are here to talk about microsoft guys hehe

YAAAYAYAYYAAAAY IM GETTING AN XBOX360 AT LAUNCH WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stocka
14-11-2005, 06:17 PM
YAY I'M GETTING AN XBOX 360 FOR XMAS AND KAMEO FROM MY SISTER! NO COST FOR ME WHATSOEVER :grin:

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 06:20 PM
YAY I'M GETTING AN XBOX 360 FOR XMAS AND KAMEO FROM MY SISTER! NO COST FOR ME WHATSOEVER :grin:

ok ok no one likes a show off :heh: especially a show off with no pre-orders

Sarka
14-11-2005, 06:23 PM
YAY! I'm not getting a 360 but a good friend of mine is, so I will play on it constrantly at his house. He's picking up Kameo and DOA4 first... although he's prolly not gonna get it for awhile.

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 08:01 PM
im thinking, would it be cheaper to import stuff like controllers and accesories? Surely theres no region for the wireless controllers right?

Stocka
14-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Oh yeah Toby guess what, I have a £20 Whsmith voucher so as long as they have it i'm getting a second wireless controller for just £12 :heh:

JonSt
14-11-2005, 08:18 PM
Oh yeah Toby guess what, I have a £20 Whsmith voucher so as long as they have it i'm getting a second wireless controller for just £12 :heh:

Im getting free games, so fuck you :P

Stocka
14-11-2005, 08:21 PM
Im getting free games, so fuck you :P
I wasn't talking to you dude, just winding up my fellow tobykins.

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 08:34 PM
bitches, please! im so not worth it lmao

JonSt
14-11-2005, 08:40 PM
I wasn't talking to you dude, just winding up my fellow tobykins.

I know you weren't, i was talking to you, dumbass.

Stocka
14-11-2005, 08:44 PM
I know you weren't, i was talking to you, dumbass.

I never said you weren't, but there was no need to say 'fuck you' to someone just because they were having a little joke with a friend.

Domstercool
14-11-2005, 08:48 PM
People in USA who won the Pepsi compo have started getting their 360s >.<

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/8346/36030dj.jpg

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 08:49 PM
WTF happened to the media controller?!! its..short

JonSt
14-11-2005, 08:50 PM
I never said you weren't, but there was no need to say 'fuck you' to someone just because they were having a little joke with a friend.


It was a joke dude, hence the ":P"

That 360 looks so out of place on the sofa.

Stocka
14-11-2005, 08:53 PM
WTF happened to the media controller?!! its..short
I think you get a mini one with the premium pack and can buy a big one seperately.

CooInTheZoo
14-11-2005, 08:56 PM
I think you get a mini one with the premium pack and can buy a big one seperately.


oh thats cool, i need to buy one seperatly anyway.

....grr bloody core pack....

Jordan
14-11-2005, 09:11 PM
Jonst, stop bitching. Even if you are "having a laugh."

I want that 360... now. I just want it :(

1UP
14-11-2005, 09:17 PM
There only giving the media remote with the premium pack for a limited edition.
So I'm guessing that only the 1st and maybe 2nd batch will get media remotes with their Xbox 360 premium bundles.

Caris
14-11-2005, 09:27 PM
i love seeing pictures like that, they make mewant a 360 even more :)

JonSt
14-11-2005, 09:47 PM
Jonst, stop bitching. Even if you are "having a laugh."

I want that 360... now. I just want it :(

I wasn't bitching, merely stating a point.

Looks like i'll have to re order that remote i canceled, thought the remote that came with it was the same.

DiemetriX
14-11-2005, 09:54 PM
If you realy want a xbox before everybody else...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Premium-pack-SHIPS-BEFORE-LAUNCH_W0QQitemZ8232228940QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

cheets
15-11-2005, 12:25 AM
http://www.halomovienews.com/xbox360/3604.jpg
http://www.halomovienews.com/xbox360/3601.jpg
http://www.halomovienews.com/xbox360/3602.jpg

lucky so and so. argh. i aint even got confirmation of a 360 yet.

Owen
15-11-2005, 07:52 AM
Looking at those pics makes me feel sick! I want my one NOW!

It's getting harder to wait for it actually, now it's only a couple of weeks, the time seems to be going slower....

typical really! :indeed:

Moz La Punk
15-11-2005, 09:28 AM
Looking at those pics makes me feel sick! I want my one NOW!

It's getting harder to wait for it actually, now it's only a couple of weeks, the time seems to be going slower....

typical really! :indeed:

It's driving me insane though. Yesterday when I went to pick up my HDTV, I went for a quick go on the 360 again... arrg... Im already imagining every day how it would be if it was the 2nd today. My gf is sick and tired of it ;)

Caris
15-11-2005, 09:33 AM
Kameo scored 8.4 over at IGN, slightly dissapointed, but still a good score.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666667p1.html

Owen
15-11-2005, 09:54 AM
Kameo scored 8.4 over at IGN, slightly dissapointed, but still a good score.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666667p1.html

I'm also slightly dissapointed with that!

Gamespot gave it a 8.7 i think and 1up gave it a 7.0 with a god-awful, uninformative review!

Still getting it, i love adventure games! espicially at chrimbo!

:hehe:

Shaze_Nab
15-11-2005, 09:58 AM
After looking at the Kameo scores I'm just a little bit worried about how Perfect Dark Zero will turn out. I mean that is the game most people are hoping to buy (including me) and I havn't really thought about another launch game to purchase.

Owen
15-11-2005, 10:49 AM
After looking at the Kameo scores I'm just a little bit worried about how Perfect Dark Zero will turn out. I mean that is the game most people are hoping to buy (including me) and I havn't really thought about another launch game to purchase.

Well previews always stated how Kameo was the most polished so expect PD0 to get less or around the same!

Heres hoping it gets more!

Anyone have anyideas when the reviews of PD0 will be up?

:wink:

Domstercool
15-11-2005, 11:35 AM
8.4 and 8.7 are good scores, I don't see how anyone could be dishearten with a launch game scoring that, It translates to a "Great" game according to the way they review works. Enjoy it!

Moz La Punk
15-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Yeah me too, only not that happy that I would make three posts about it :P

Caris
15-11-2005, 12:28 PM
there good but not amazing thats why :P, your right tho they are goos scores and they will be great games.

Domstercool
15-11-2005, 02:16 PM
Hmm something fucked up there, it was saying the posts were never posted >.>


PGR3 got 10/10 on 1up :D

JonSt
15-11-2005, 02:38 PM
just talked to on someone gameplay again, he said they will be sending out confirmation emails to the lucky people on thursday

Stocka
15-11-2005, 02:41 PM
I'm so pleased Gamepot gave Kameo 8.7, thats fricking awesome.

Owen
15-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Can i just say i thought Kameo was going to score in the 9.0's and i'm not that dissapointed over the scores it has recieved, at all actually.

My earlier posts made it looked as though i thought the scores were rubbish when there clearly not.

Just thought i clear that up! I am dissapointed at the awful 1up review though, how informative was that? it was like a couple of paragraphs long!

:)

Caris
15-11-2005, 03:21 PM
*Waits for PDZ Review*

Owen
15-11-2005, 03:36 PM
just talked to on someone gameplay again, he said they will be sending out confirmation emails to the lucky people on thursday

I hope your right, there not answering the live-chat thing anymore because they are probably being hammered with loads of 360 questions!

Roll on thursday then! :D

RoadKill
15-11-2005, 04:35 PM
How much longer can I wait? :( I am going to be so fucking frustrated when it comes out and I can't afford it. I need Project Gotham Racing 3.

Moz La Punk
15-11-2005, 04:40 PM
Available on Market Place from the get go: http://mozlapunk.web-log.nl/log/4115031


This will keep me occupied :O

CooInTheZoo
15-11-2005, 04:40 PM
No. Way.

The Premium pack gets a chrome finish, the Core pack gets standard plastic. fucking microsoft....

Owen
15-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Someone over on gamespots forum are stating PD0 got a 7.9 on IGN, he/she seems to know the score before the review has been posted.

7.9? Could well be spot-on..we have to wait and see!

Anyone expecting it to get 7.9? isn't a bad score but i thought it would of been in the 80's.

:)

Moz La Punk
15-11-2005, 04:51 PM
I always thought the multiplayer would pull it into the 90's to be honest. We'll see.

Stocka
15-11-2005, 05:52 PM
7.9 sounds about right.

scubahood
15-11-2005, 05:58 PM
YAY my local game got an xbox 360 pod in today played kameo safe to say rare haven't lost their touch i loved it

Owen
15-11-2005, 06:39 PM
OK, i've heard some 'rumours' about Gameplays stock allocations, and the are dramatically different!

Firstly,

800-1000 Xbox360's

Secondly,

A terrible '20', yes thats 2 and 0, TWENTY.

Lets hope it's the first one! Although it wouldn't surprise me if it was 20 considering the terrible luck i have lately.....

Gameplay have also stated to someone else (including JonSt) that they will be emailing customers who got one, THIS THURSDAY!

I'm scared.... :sad:

JonSt
15-11-2005, 06:44 PM
OK, i've heard some 'rumours' about Gameplays stock allocations, and the are dramatically different!

Firstly,

800-1000 Xbox360's

Secondly,

A terrible '20', yes thats 2 and 0, TWENTY.

Lets hope it's the first one! Although it wouldn't surprise me if it was 20 considering the terrible luck i have lately.....

Gameplay have also stated to someone else (including JonSt) that they will be emailing customers who got one, THIS THURSDAY!

I'm scared.... :sad:


Even if it is 20, im still confident i will get one, i kept refreshing gameplay just after the announcement of when the 360 price until the pre orders opened, then i ordered straight away.

Moz La Punk
15-11-2005, 06:50 PM
I don't have ANY clue how things are concerning stock number in the Netherlands. I just preordered (through the 40 Euro package) at my local Free Record Shop... I'll just stand in front of the store before it opens on friday morning. Hope it works.

Oli1983uk
15-11-2005, 06:52 PM
I dont see how they can only get 20 consoles! they r a pretty big internet company! if each game store get around 30 consoles (20 premium and 10 core) they have around 400 stores which is 16000 consoles for the whole game group! i would expect gameplay to get up to at least 1000 consoles

Owen
15-11-2005, 06:59 PM
Even if it is 20, im still confident i will get one, i kept refreshing gameplay just after the announcement of when the 360 price until the pre orders opened, then i ordered straight away.

God, i wish i did that! I preordered at around 6:00pm on 17/08, i wish i did it earlier!

Although i've read on numerous forums that most people it seems preordered 18/08!

GOOD LUCK everyone!

:hmm:

Caris
15-11-2005, 09:13 PM
haha people, people CHILL PILL, my local blockbusters (im not ment to say this but anything for Owen :D) are getting 15, a local SHIT games shop are getting 6, so gameplay will be floodeyed with them.

DiemetriX
15-11-2005, 09:41 PM
Played abit of 360 today...
I guess the "next gen" games are comeing next year (Elder scrolls, gears of war etc.)

CompSci
15-11-2005, 09:54 PM
heads up Gamespot gave Kameo a 8.7

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kameoelementsofpower/review.html?autoplay=6139801

Caris
15-11-2005, 10:30 PM
heads up Gamespot gave Kameo a 8.7

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kameoelementsofpower/review.html?autoplay=6139801

youre not very up to date are you? :kiss:

CompSci
15-11-2005, 11:10 PM
youre not very up to date are you? :kiss:

nah i am more into the pc scene

oh yeah

x800xt > xbox360 woot

Caris
15-11-2005, 11:19 PM
hahaha, urr 15 word thing...

Owen
16-11-2005, 08:00 AM
haha people, people CHILL PILL, my local blockbusters (im not ment to say this but anything for Owen :D) are getting 15, a local SHIT games shop are getting 6, so gameplay will be floodeyed with them.

Thanks, that makes me feel better! :hehe:

Aussie
16-11-2005, 09:25 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/xbox-360-unpacked_large.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/xbox-360-inside.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/controllers-galore.jpg

Owen
16-11-2005, 10:57 AM
^ Cool pictures!

Anyway, i spoke to Gameplay today seeing as they are meant to be emailing customers tomorrow and the bloke didn't know anything about it!

So don't expect emails tomorrow from Gameplay telling you, you've got one!

Also i asked if you preordered early enough and your lucky enough to get one, will you recieve it on 2/12 (launch-day) and he said YES.

I also asked about Sonic Rush being released 18/11, like it says on the Sega Europe site etc.. and he said they have been given a 25/11 date. Quite upset about that, only one week though, although all my time will be with Mario Kart i reckon!

:smile:

JonSt
16-11-2005, 11:28 AM
^ Cool pictures!

Anyway, i spoke to Gameplay today seeing as they are meant to be emailing customers tomorrow and the bloke didn't know anything about it!

So don't expect emails tomorrow from Gameplay telling you, you've got one!

Also i asked if you preordered early enough and your lucky enough to get one, will you recieve it on 2/12 (launch-day) and he said YES.

I also asked about Sonic Rush being released 18/11, like it says on the Sega Europe site etc.. and he said they have been given a 25/11 date. Quite upset about that, only one week though, although all my time will be with Mario Kart i reckon!

:smile:


I think gameplay's sonic rush date is incrorrect, they have had the 25th for a while, when i got it from sega they said it was an 18th, most other sites also have it up as 18th

Jordan
16-11-2005, 11:38 AM
We'll find out soon enough. They ship games tonight. So we'll see.

Pit-Jr
16-11-2005, 03:08 PM
1up.com posted some slightly above average scores for a few 360 games. Except PGR perfect 10!!!

Owen
16-11-2005, 03:12 PM
We'll find out soon enough. They ship games tonight. So we'll see.

and thats exactly what Sonic Rush is doing today! Gameplay have now changed the date!

I have 4 games coming from them hopefully tomorrow! :hehe:

:)

Stocka
16-11-2005, 04:23 PM
You get a wireless adaptor with it ???!?!?! :shock:

Bowser57
16-11-2005, 04:30 PM
I have 4 games coming from them hopefully tomorrow! :hehe:

:)

Do you not find you end up with a pile of half-played games?

I feel like a filthy slut if I buy two games within a few days of each other, nevermind more than that.

I've bought three games for my DS over the past three weeks and feel that's pushing it a bit. Granted, one of them is Advance Wars which takes a bit of playing, and one of them is Mario Kart, so I could hardly wait.

Owen
16-11-2005, 04:33 PM
OK, Gameplay have recieved their allocations from Microsoft! They were not allowed to tell me the figures, obviously, but they are very low.

Here are a few highlights in our conversation! LOL

-The UK will be getting a daft figure of around 50,000 units. He went on to say how it's amazing how short of allocations the UK has got, and stock is EXTREMELY low around the UK!

-The amount Gameplay are getting IS higher then a two-digit number, so 800-1000 could be right.

-If you preordered on the 17/08 you 'should' get one, although he couldn't be 100% definate. If you preordered nearer the 24/08 deadline, you will not get one for launch or this year (although you may still get one in 05)

-They will be emailing customers this week to tell them if they DID or DIDN'T get one! So it's a horrible wait as the email loads to see if you were lucky enough, by Friday they should of emailed you!

Finally, Good Luck everyone, of course not everyone on here cares if they do or do not get one, but i know some people who really want one for launch day!

:hmm:

EDIT: To answer your question Bowser, i do have alot of half-played games, but i really don't want to miss Sonic Rush, Mario Football, Tony Hawks DS and Pursuit Force so it had to be done! ;)

Jordan
16-11-2005, 04:37 PM
...Source?
Last time i heard it was 500K and it was a typo on Microsoft's part.

Bren
16-11-2005, 04:37 PM
You get a wireless adaptor with it ???!?!?! :shock:

nah by looks of his picture he got an extra pack thing with all the accesories.

wonder wer he got it, i like the box.

Anyone found out Games allocations?

i e-mailed them last week, and they said i should have one for release, so fingers
crossed

Owen
16-11-2005, 04:44 PM
...Source?
Last time i heard it was 500K and it was a typo on Microsoft's part.

Only me i'm afriad, and thats talking on live-chat to a bloke called 'Craig', lets hope his telling the truth (saying i have got one) and is incorrect with the UK allocation figure, i did state 'So the Uk is getting like 50,000?' and he stated 'Something daft like that' therefore it could even be less, or yes, more!

:smile:

JonSt
16-11-2005, 05:15 PM
Only me i'm afriad, and thats talking on live-chat to a bloke called 'Craig', lets hope his telling the truth (saying i have got one) and is incorrect with the UK allocation figure, i did state 'So the Uk is getting like 50,000?' and he stated 'Something daft like that' therefore it could even be less, or yes, more!

:smile:

Ive talked to craig before, he was the guy that said they would be emailing people on thursday.

Bowser57
16-11-2005, 06:02 PM
My cousin Craig works for Gameplay, he says he just tells people whatever he feels like at that moment.

Meik
16-11-2005, 06:16 PM
What's the huge deal with Gameplay?

If you want one so bad, just hang around stores likes Blockbuster/Comet/Currys/WHSmith on the 2nd December when they open in the morning. That's my plan.

Haver
16-11-2005, 06:19 PM
TELL ME WHERE THE XBOX 360S ARE.

DO NOT LIE TO ME.

WHERE IS THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.

Moz La Punk
16-11-2005, 06:23 PM
Some pro's and con's, as objective as possible:

http://mozlapunk.web-log.nl/log/4124851


Xbox 360: The Good And The Bad
By Moz La Punk, head editor

You can’t expect Microsoft to do everything right with it’s second console launch, of course, but it’s already clear that they’ve got their act together a whole lot better compared to the first Xbox launch. Well, apart from some mistakes that could come to haunt them and bite them in the ass, that is.

We take a look at five great things the Xbox 360 is doing, and five stupid things that Microsoft needs to fix for the… uhhh… Xbox 720... or something.


The Good

- The Games
We have to admit, the Xbox 360 launch line up looks set to be a spicy little combination. While reviews all over the web reveal right now that it’s a collection of AA-games instead of ultimate classics (and some titles like Perfect Dark Zero haven’t even been reviewed yet), it’s still a fantastic batch of games for a launch. If you remember what the GameCube offered on day one (Luigi’s Mansion, Wave Race and Super Monkey Ball), and the PS2 (SSX, Fantavision), and heck, even the original Xbox (Halo… ehhh… Halo?), we think it’s easy to agree that the 360 launch line up is one of the best line ups ever. Strong point here is the word variation. You got your fun single/multiplayer shooter Perfect Dark Zero, a colourful platform adventure in the form of Kameo, a World War II shooter, some sport games, some race games. Good balance.

- Xbox Live
Yes, this is the big selling point in our opinion, more so than with the original Xbox. We feel that this generation, people will be ready for online, and Microsoft has made the system even better and more fluid. The fact that you have a gamer card which also shows all games you’ve played and challenges you’ve conquered, is reason enough for many people to play all the way through a game, thus resolving one of the biggest problems developers are facing. The Market Place is indeed a way for MS to earn even more money, but the fact that there are also a few free, playable demo’s from day one in this e-supermarket, is applaudable. We didn’t think it would rock our world a year ago, but here we are, rubbing our hands in excitement for this option. Of course, playing games online is a big plus, that’s a given.

- The Controller
Love it! We can’t say it enough. We love it. It’s the perfect size, the perfect colour, and when you push the buttons, it’s the perfect click. It’s such an improvement compared to the previous Xbox controller that it’s almost impossible to imagine it’s from the same company, and yet the lay out of the buttons hasn’t even changed that much. The controller has a more rubbery feel to it and the triggers are way better. And let’s admit it: controllers are extremely important since you’ll have to use it at all times when you’re playing games. Also, the batteries for the wireless controllers go up to 40 hours of gameplay, with rumble, which is remarkable.

- The Graphics
We were doubting how we should explain why the graphics are actually a plus. Remember back in the Dreamcast days? The system failed miserably, partly because everyone thought that the Playstation2 would offer far greater graphics. When we compare the situation now, it’s clear to see that Dreamcast was just about as powerful as Sony’s console, and maybe had an edge in displaying soft graphics. Of course we don’t know yet what Playstation3 will bring us, but for now, we’ll just have to go with the fact that the 360 graphics are the best that are available right now. Even more important is, again, the diversity in graphics on display in the launch line up. Perfect Dark and Kameo both look so colourful and diverse. Call Of Duty 2 looks just as good as the PC version and Project Gotham Racing 3 is the be-all-end-all of racing game graphics. HDTV support is great, but it also ensures some people will miss the boat on that one, and we’ll discuss that in the con’s.

- Support
A lot of developers are jumping the 360 bandwagon and that is a good thing, no doubt. With a lot of unclearity of when the other next generation consoles will hit the streets, developers are choosing the safe route and start developing games for the only next generation system available, Xbox 360. Even in Japan the system is gathering support in a modest rate, more so than the original Xbox. It remains to be seen if support will grow and keep at a steady pace, especially when other consoles arrive, but now that the 360 has a big head start it means it will have the largest user base for quite some time and that is what attracts developers, simple.



The Bad

- The Pricing
While we can understand that a powerful piece of hardware needs to be sold for a reasonable amount of money, we think the two sets (Core and Premium) is a bad move on Microsoft’s part. It’s nice that they want to give us the option but it will definitely create confusion for mainstream gamers and retailers. Microsoft wants you to buy the Premium system with hard drive anyway, so why be so vague about it? Just don’t create that Core package! Also, the pricing on a lot of accessories is very high. We understand a hard drive costs a lot and wireless controllers are also expensive for a reason, but 20 Euros for a faceplate? Get out of here.

- The HD Era
Right now the thing so many gamers were afraid of, is happening. In almost every 360 game review on the net you come across, the reviewer tells the reader that it looks ‘sooo much better’ on a High Definition Television Set. Yes, that’s nice and all when you own a HDTV, but what if you have a standard TV, and you already have trouble with scraping the money together for a 360? It’s true that the games will still look great on a normal television but a lot of details that matter a lot to game fans around the globe, are only visible on the expensive new television. We can’t really blame Microsoft for it but it’s still a turn off for a lot of people. The good news is that in a few years time the HDTV’s will definitely drop in price. But as of now, a lot of people will feel sort of left out, and that’s not a good thing.

- Customisation
Microsoft is seriously overstating the customisation part of the Xbox 360. Why would you feel unique if you buy a 20 Euro faceplate for your console that only you will see anyway? Or what about asking cash (or points that are bought with cash) for custom avatars for on your Xbox Live account? Seriously Microsoft, customisation is a nice little bonus, but not if it will cost us money. It just won’t work that way.

- The Rushed Launch
You knew this would come sooner or later. While the launch line up of the 360 is great, with good games and with variety, it’s still missing that killer app like Super Mario 64 or Halo. A launch game that defines the face of the console. Even if Perfect Dark gets great scores, it’s still not that face defining franchise that everyone knows. Without such a flagship, a lot of mainstream people won’t be persuaded to get this system in their homes. Releasing Halo 3 on launch maybe would’ve been overcrowding the launch a bit, but it would have been so important sales-wise. Also, a few games that would’ve made launch have been postponed, like Dead Or Alive 4 and Elder Scolls IV: Oblivion. They are two very important titles and although it’s classy of MS that they prefer quality above making money on launch with these two titles, it’s a sign that the November/December launch date was rushed.

- The Future
This isn’t such a negative point in itself, but as with any console, it’s still unclear what the future of the 360 will bring us. Especially in the light of the all-destroying PS2 this past generation, we have to wonder if Sony will be able to do the same trick twice and send Microsoft back home. Will third party developers flee to the Playstation3 or even the cheaper to develop for Revolution when they hit the market? Only time will tell. This is a negative point because unlike some other consoles, you are really spending a lot of money on the 360 if you want one, and if it will loose support in a few years time, you won’t really feel like you’ve got some quality stuff for your hard earned cash.



The Conclusion

When we take a look at these two lists, it's apparant that the good overweights the bad. This is the opinion of the head editor of Moz La Punk, but we believe that generally speaking, it reflects the truth. A lot of negative vibe is surrounding the 360 simply because people are afraid to buy it because of the threat PS3 might offer the console. Because these people don't dare to spend cash on the 360 because of this reason, they have to make themselves feel better for not owning it and they badmouth an otherwise teriffic console.

There's no denying it: Microsoft has definitely learned from some of their mistakes in their first generation in console-land. They are still making mistakes though, and time will tell if it will come back to haunt them in the end. For now, we can rest assured that we've got some great games to look forward to on launch, some great options on Xbox Live and a fantastic controller to treasure in your hands. That it will cost you all a fortune, including a brand spankin' new HDTV, is a painful realisation, and one that could ultimately proof the succes or failure of the 360 in it's first year, and thus for the rest of it's life cycle.

DiemetriX
16-11-2005, 06:36 PM
I wont gett my 360 for launch :/ i had to give away mine so that we have sattesfied customers... But i'll have on in my house anyway so it's not that big off a loss.

Owen
16-11-2005, 08:05 PM
My cousin Craig works for Gameplay, he says he just tells people whatever he feels like at that moment.

LOL! Fantasic! :grin:

Also 'Meik' i would do that but they are SOLD OUT in preorders alone in every shop in my area.

So my only hope is Gameplay really.

:)

CooInTheZoo
16-11-2005, 09:26 PM
Like i said on the Trade boards, with a five pound reduction coupon you can get yourself a Wired controller for £12.99 or a wireless one for £24.99. Thats really taking the piss! I'd rather have 2 extra wired controllers than one wireless one. What do you think?

JonSt
16-11-2005, 09:45 PM
As much as i prefer wireless controllers, it would be annoying to have to charge two.

CooInTheZoo
16-11-2005, 09:54 PM
As much as i prefer wireless controllers, it would be annoying to have to charge two.

let alone, 4! Costing £32.99 each!

The3rdChildren
16-11-2005, 10:27 PM
LOL! Fantasic! :grin:

Also 'Meik' i would do that but they are SOLD OUT in preorders alone in every shop in my area.

So my only hope is Gameplay really.

:)

I'll do the same as Meik, you people are blowing this all out of proportion just like what happened with the DS launch, the PSP launch... and will no doubt happen every other launch.

I plan to scale a few stores on the Friday and see what I can turn up, if I fail... I fail. I won't kill myself, but I may cut a little.

JonSt
16-11-2005, 10:47 PM
I'll do the same as Meik, you people are blowing this all out of proportion just like what happened with the DS launch, the PSP launch... and will no doubt happen every other launch.

I plan to scale a few stores on the Friday and see what I can turn up, if I fail... I fail. I won't kill myself, but I may cut a little.

Knowing me ill getm confirmed for one and then cancel my pre order, or i could put my pre order on ebay, £1 million for my preorder

masaki86
16-11-2005, 11:05 PM
Popped into Brum today; went round all gaming shops. ALl said the same thing; 'get to a Tesco or an Asda at midnight; that's the only way you'll get one before christmas'

Owen
17-11-2005, 07:46 AM
I'll do the same as Meik, you people are blowing this all out of proportion just like what happened with the DS launch, the PSP launch... and will no doubt happen every other launch.

I plan to scale a few stores on the Friday and see what I can turn up, if I fail... I fail. I won't kill myself, but I may cut a little.

How am i blowing it out of proportion when i clearly stated in my last post that everywhere in my area is SOLD OUT in preorders alone, therefore i have to travel approx 45 minutes to my next big town, which also is SOLD OUT in preorders alone, so i only have a Comet which is out in the sticks somewhere and Gameplay to get a Xbox360, i think i'm allowed to be a little worried, yet excited. :wink:

:awesome:

Aussie
17-11-2005, 11:01 AM
Perfect Dark Zero (Xbox 360 Review) (http://perfect-dark-zero.blogspot.com/2005/11/perfect-dark-zero-for-xbox-360-review.html)

Owen
17-11-2005, 11:17 AM
I GOT THE EMAIL!

I've got one for launch day! YES! THANKYOU GAMEPLAY!!!!!!!!!!! :hehe: :hehe:

Good Luck everyone! :hehe:

JonSt
17-11-2005, 11:20 AM
I GOT THE EMAIL!

I've got one for launch day! YES! THANKYOU GAMEPLAY!!!!!!!!!!! :hehe: :hehe:

Good Luck everyone! :hehe:

I also got the email

Dear Gameplay Customer,

We are pleased to inform you that you are included in our first allocation for the Xbox 360 Premium Pack!

You should receive your order on the day of release - 02/12/05.

Below is our essential launch list of games and accessories, plus a special discount on carry cases and bags - please select which other items you'd like to receive with your console:

Hard luck to anyone not getting one, dont worry though as i am

Meik
17-11-2005, 11:22 AM
Perfect Dark Zero (Xbox 360 Review) (http://perfect-dark-zero.blogspot.com/2005/11/perfect-dark-zero-for-xbox-360-review.html)I'd hardly call playing one level of an unfinished build a review.

cheets
17-11-2005, 11:23 AM
i got it aswell, now its time for GAMEs anwser.

All mails have been sent out to all 360 customers, letting them know if they have one or not.

A couple of people didn't have emails linked to their account or had unsubscirbed from our mailing list - so they will recieve a letter shortly.

I'm sorry we can't fulfil all orders, but there just isn't enough stock available at launch.

Domstercool
17-11-2005, 11:24 AM
GAME haven't sent anything out yet >.> COME ON DAMN IT!

scubahood
17-11-2005, 11:28 AM
GAY!!! i ordered on the 18th of august and i'm not getting one. When did you lot order?

cheets
17-11-2005, 11:28 AM
GAME haven't sent anything out yet >.> COME ON DAMN IT!

lol, they have, sent out about 300 emails to people saying they have there prem packs.

i preordered with GAME and Gameplay at the exact same time, so GAME suck.

Never gonna use GAME again.

GAY!!! i ordered on the 18th of august and i'm not getting one. When did you lot order?

Few people on other forums have said the same thing.

Owen
17-11-2005, 11:28 AM
It seems that if you preordered on the 18/08 or after you haven't got one, which is quite appalling really, it's NOWAY Gameplays fault but Microsofts, i mean preordering 'that' early and still not getting one just shows how severe the shortages must be....

and like everyone is saying, i know for a fact Microsoft are sending out small batches of the console so it always sells out quick, it gives them a good image and reputation, shame the customers don't come first, as alot of kids are going to be unhappy this christmas!

I hope everyone who is waiting on 'GAME' confirmations, get Good News as well! :)

Domstercool
17-11-2005, 11:30 AM
Ah well if I don't get one, it means I wait for a price drop and order the games I've missed for saving up for one >.>

JonSt
17-11-2005, 11:37 AM
Anyone want my pre order, highest bidder!!! :P

m_fergy
17-11-2005, 11:38 AM
I ordered on the 18th and i got the e-mail from gameplay :D

im getting

Xbox 360
Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adaptor
Xbox 360 Play and Charge Kit
Perfect Dark - Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3

WooooooooooooooT

Looking forward to playin yous if any of yous are gettin them games.

Owen
17-11-2005, 11:41 AM
I ordered on the 18th and i got the e-mail from gameplay :D

im getting

Xbox 360
Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adaptor
Xbox 360 Play and Charge Kit
Perfect Dark - Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3

WooooooooooooooT

Looking forward to playin yous if any of yous are gettin them games.

Really? Did you preorder early 18/08? because if you left it to late i believe you were too late to get one, so your lucky.

:)

m_fergy
17-11-2005, 11:42 AM
Really? Did you preorder early 18/08? because if you left it to late i believe you were too late to get one, so your lucky.

:)

yeah early on the 18th m8. I work nite shift so i did it about 1 in the morning

glad im gettin 1 :D

JonSt
17-11-2005, 11:52 AM
I am getting

Xbox 360 premium pack
Play and Chage Kit
Official Rgb cables
Vga Cables
Perfect Dark Zero LE
Project Gotham Racing 3
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
FIFA
Condemned

cheets
17-11-2005, 11:59 AM
I am getting

Xbox 360 premium pack
Play and Chage Kit
Official Rgb cables
Vga Cables
Perfect Dark Zero LE
Project Gotham Racing 3
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
FIFA
Condemned

6 Games :o

I am getting PGR 3 and maybe PDZ

Email 1

Dear Gameplay Customer,

We are pleased to inform you that you are included in our first allocation for the Xbox 360 Premium Pack!

You should receive your order on the day of release - 02/12/05.

Below is our essential launch list of games and accessories, plus a special discount on carry cases and bags - please select which other items you'd like to receive with your console:.

Email 2

Dear Gameplay Customer,

Due to huge demand for the Xbox 360 Console and low stock allocation into the UK we will not be able to fulfil your order for the Xbox 360 Premium Pack for release date.

We recommend that you still keep your pre order with us so you remain in the queue for the next allocation of stock. Your card will not be charged until we despatch your order.

Currently we do not know when the next allocation of consoles will be sent from Microsoft.

We would like to apologise for this situation but unfortunately we are at the whim of Microsoft’s stock levels. We will secure stock as soon as it becomes available in the UK.



All mails have been sent out to all 360 customers, letting them know if they have one or not.

A couple of people didn't have emails linked to their account or had unsubscirbed from our mailing list - so they will recieve a letter shortly.

I'm sorry we can't fulfil all orders, but there just isn't enough stock available at launch.

JonSt
17-11-2005, 12:01 PM
6 Games :o

I am getting PGR 3 and maybe PDZ

I might cancel a couple, havent decided yet.

cheets
17-11-2005, 12:17 PM
I might cancel a couple, havent decided yet.

I say this everytime i get a new console.

Only get 1, 2 Max games, complete each game then sell and get another, before i know it i have 14 half completed games.

I wont sell PGR3 too much xbl play

JonSt
17-11-2005, 12:30 PM
I might do that, get a few complete, get more, as i dont think its gonna be that hard to get hold of the software.

The3rdChildren
17-11-2005, 01:19 PM
The plot thickens with all this confusion and concern. I still say the midnight Tesco/Asda thing is your best bet with these kinda things as those guys certainly don't take preorders for stuff.

And I agree, playing one level doesn't constitute a review or even that number of words. JESUS. Write a book or something.

Oli1983uk
17-11-2005, 01:25 PM
Got my email from Game play to say I am getting one!

Alos does any one know if woolies are doing pre orders? i am sure it has been said in this thread but i aint check all the pages!

Matt
17-11-2005, 01:29 PM
Woolies aren't taking pre-orders, and someone from Tesco told me that no Tesco will be getting them in.... hmmmm.

Any reviews for PDZ anywhere, yet?

The3rdChildren
17-11-2005, 01:32 PM
Woolies aren't taking pre-orders, and someone from Tesco told me that no Tesco will be getting them in.... hmmmm.

Any reviews for PDZ anywhere, yet?

I have a Woolworths down in my local shops. Might hafta head down there in the morning to check it out. Thanks for the head's up.

Matt
17-11-2005, 01:36 PM
I've got a small one near me and they said that it's just the larger ones getting them in. However, I asked at another smallish one, and they said they are getting them, but they dont know how many and they're not taking pre-orders.

Hmmmm, Asda it is. My local one is getting ten 360's. My local Currys are getting ONE!

Oli1983uk
17-11-2005, 01:43 PM
just wondering as i spoke to the manager of my local woolworths and he said i can pre order mine on there in store electronic catalogue and i proberly would get one on day of release

JonSt
17-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Where i live has the biggest Asda in britain, they are getting a lot of 360's in, they even had psp's left after launch, anyone wanting a 360 should head up to aberdeen :P

Aussie
17-11-2005, 02:01 PM
Perfect Dark Zero

In order to guarantee Xbox 360 launch-day availability of flagship title Perfect Dark Zero, Microsoft sent the game to manufacture before it had passed certification.

It was an extraordinary gamble. The game passed certification after the disks had been pressed. If the company had waited for certification to come through before okaying manufacture, Perfect Dark Zero would not have been available at the launch of Xbox 360.

Having ordered replication of the disks, Microsoft and Rare had to cross their fingers for a positive certification. If Microsoft's notoriously strict procedure - which we understand was not eased for PDZ in any way - had failed, the disks would have been trashed and the game would have been late.

The certification process is the final stage a game goes through before manufacture. Microsoft's team picks through the game making sure there are no bugs, that menus all work correctly, and that there are no compatibility issues. Games that fail, even in the smallest detail, are sent back to publishers and developers for changes. The process can take days, or even weeks.

Microsoft's developer Rare has been under enormous pressure to deliver two games for the launch of Xbox 360 - Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero, with PDZ the flagship title for the entire launch. Failure to make retail on November 22 would have been a sales and publicity disaster.

Taking a risk

PDZ executive producer Jim Veevaert told Next Generation, "Typically we go through a certification process to get a game finished and then we release to manufacturing. We took some risks and manufactured the disks over five days before certification."

When asked about the risks involved he said, "If the certification had not passed, we would have had hundreds of thousands of disks on our hands. It was us taking a risk to get the game there day one and there for launch."

He said, "Typically you can take upwards of 12 to 14 days to go through certification. In this case we didn't have the time, so we said 'go for it'."

He said the team was confident, if not certain, that the certification would pass. "The team had been going through the game over the last few weeks to get us to a point where we felt really comfortable. Rare does a lot of work in terms of polishing the game so we felt pretty confident it was time to let it go."

Microsoft has manufactured 700,000 copies of Perfect Dark Zero for the U.S. market, with a target hardware tie-ratio of 1:1. Veevaert said that figure was based on the early launch period of the hardware, and that a further run is expected in the days ahead.

TOMORROW: Full interview with Jim Veevaert on Rare's launch titles and the coming of Xbox 360

Next-Gen (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1662&Itemid=2)

Deltatri3
17-11-2005, 02:07 PM
ive been officially fucked over by gameplay.com

Owen
17-11-2005, 02:32 PM
God i'm so pleased they took thr gamble and made PD0 go into production before certification!

I really really need this as a launch title! :)

The3rdChildren
17-11-2005, 02:46 PM
God i'm so pleased they took thr gamble and made PD0 go into production before certification!

I really really need this as a launch title! :)

We don't even know if it's any good yet.

rokhed00
17-11-2005, 02:50 PM
ive been officially fucked over by gameplay.com


Join the club, GAME did the same to me.
Let's just hope Woolies don't let us down now.

Owen
17-11-2005, 02:51 PM
We don't even know if it's any good yet.

I know, good point.

but i'm 99.9% sure i'm going to love this and Kameo, i'm not expecting too much from it, so perhaps it will surprise me even more!

Judging by the videos it looks set to do the Perfect Dark franchise proud, and i reckon it will be great!

:)

RoadKill
17-11-2005, 03:44 PM
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610

I don't know if it interests anyone else, but I was itching to see this sort of article.

DiemetriX
17-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Personal News update:)
One of the customers said they didnt have enogh mony at launch for a 360..
this means i thers a 360 waiting for me about 30.november :D

cheets
17-11-2005, 04:05 PM
GAME did me on my other xbox 360 but Gameplay came through in the end.


GOOO Gameplay :D

CooInTheZoo
17-11-2005, 04:46 PM
So Far: (brackets mean most probably being ordered this week)
Xbox 360 Core
Hard Drive
PD0
King Kong
(Kameo)
(Second Controller)

have i forgotten anything essential?

DiemetriX
17-11-2005, 04:57 PM
So Far: (brackets mean most probably being ordered this week)
Xbox 360 Core
Hard Drive
PD0
King Kong
(Kameo)
(Second Controller)

have i forgotten anything essential?

CORE!? why? do you know that the core has a white (ugly) disc tray?
Other than that your list is ok :)

Owen
17-11-2005, 05:01 PM
^ You may need a plug and play kit, it comes with rechargeable batteries for your wireless controller, and it lets you recharge the batteries while your playing, so you don't have to wait for the controller to fully charge before using it etc..

It costs £14.99.

I'm getting:

Call of duty 2
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero
Condemned
Tony Hawks: AS
Project Gotham Racing 3
Plug and Play Kit
Extra Wireless controller
Xbox 360 Premium Pack

Comes to around £570 i think...

Then i will be using Credit Notes in Gamestation for:

King Kong
Quake 4
Need For Speed: Most Wanted (maybe)
Amped 3
GUN
Tiger Woods 2006 (maybe)
Fifa 2006 (maybe)

:D

DiemetriX
17-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Need for speed most wanted was better than i had expected. It's alot like Underground 2. But the cop thing is cool and i love the Grapich style. Only played for about 3hrs. But so far i give it an 8/10 (xbox180 version)

CooInTheZoo
17-11-2005, 05:10 PM
i ordered CORE because its garunteed to be delivered at launch. Thats a pretty good deal, considered i ordered 3 days ago :P

thank you argos!!!

Jordan
17-11-2005, 05:11 PM
I haven't been allocated one on launch from gameplay. Hopefully second batch. I was a day off the cut off point.

Shame... hopefully i'll get one later in Dec.

Owen
17-11-2005, 05:23 PM
i ordered CORE because its garunteed to be delivered at launch. Thats a pretty good deal, considered i ordered 3 days ago :P

thank you argos!!!

I would of got a Core System if i had too, and at least your getting it on launch day, like you said! So it seems pretty good to me too!

:smile:

CooInTheZoo
17-11-2005, 05:27 PM
I cant make a gamertag thingy! STILL!! Is it possible to make one on your 360? Or for someone else (one of you lot? :P) to make one and then for me to change the password? Im worried my username will be gone by the time i get my 360

scubahood
17-11-2005, 05:32 PM
I see some of you have made several pre-orders don't suppose if anybody has two ordered and only wants one they would like to sell it to me

CooInTheZoo
17-11-2005, 05:43 PM
I see some of you have made several pre-orders don't suppose if anybody has two ordered and only wants one they would like to sell it to me


this is your best bet now
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5680023/Trail/C%24cip%3D29414.Video%2Bgames%3EC%24cip%3D31905.Xb ox%2B360.htm

or ebay

Bowser57
17-11-2005, 05:45 PM
Is it possible to make one on your 360?

That'll certainly be the case.

Moz La Punk
17-11-2005, 05:51 PM
My current list:

HDTV (comes this monday! :D )
Xbox Premium
Xbox Live Gold one year
Wireless Router
Extra wireless controller
A card with gamer points (for marketplace)

And these four games are certain:
- PDZero
- Kameo
- Call Of Duty 2
- PGR 3

I was planning to get 8 or so games but now this list has remained... other games that might be added when I actually buy it:
- King Kong
- Condemned

Moz La Punk
17-11-2005, 05:52 PM
That'll certainly be the case.

Yes, only you have to hope no one has taken the name you wanted.

Myself, I already have one called 'Moz La Punk' :hehe:

RoadKill
17-11-2005, 05:56 PM
Need for speed most wanted was better than i had expected. It's alot like Underground 2. But the cop thing is cool and i love the Grapich style. Only played for about 3hrs. But so far i give it an 8/10 (xbox180 version)

Xbox 180? You mean the first Xbox? Fuck using such fucking shit terminology.

JonSt
17-11-2005, 05:58 PM
Xbox 180? You mean the first Xbox? Fuck using such fucking shit terminology.


Is Xbox that hard to write, no not really, unlucky all those people that never got there is always next time, ill be sure to post pictures of mine.

RoadKill
17-11-2005, 06:13 PM
Yeah why we can't we just call it "Xbox" and "Xbox 360" where was that ever difficult?

cheets
17-11-2005, 06:27 PM
http://shop.game.net/lowdown.aspx?lid=5538 :o

Alot of people think the 50,000 rumor is true, id say 200,000 myself.

ShavenWolf
17-11-2005, 08:43 PM
Gameplaaaay! FUCK YEAH!!! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah....

Yeah, I got the confirmation email! I'm really chuffed now!!

Garden_Pigeon
17-11-2005, 09:37 PM
I preordered from my local comet because my dad works there (20% off) and because its not really a game speciality shop im guaranteed to get one! Horray me! :grin:

CooInTheZoo
17-11-2005, 09:39 PM
My Xbox360 will soo not last unopened till xmas day..

Garden_Pigeon
17-11-2005, 09:46 PM
Lol, Will I have to make another .NET Passport and lie about my age to make a gamercard? Will it affect my Xbox Live or anything?

Domstercool
17-11-2005, 10:17 PM
Hmmm So are GAME not telling people if they haven't got one, if people said they have emailed the people who have got one, what about the ones without? I'd like to know so I know for sure.

Can spend money on other things then instead of waiting.

JonSt
17-11-2005, 10:27 PM
I haven't been allocated one on launch from gameplay. Hopefully second batch. I was a day off the cut off point.

Shame... hopefully i'll get one later in Dec.

I wouldnt count the note on gameplay as being the cut off point, there are people that ordered on the 18th that are not getting a console.

rokhed00
17-11-2005, 11:07 PM
Hmmm So are GAME not telling people if they haven't got one, if people said they have emailed the people who have got one, what about the ones without? I'd like to know so I know for sure.

Can spend money on other things then instead of waiting.

No, they're not.
I had to phone them up to find out that if I hadn't got an email then I wouldn't be getting one.

Domstercool
18-11-2005, 12:20 AM
Guess I'm not getting one then, damn stupid world wide release. >.>

Owen
18-11-2005, 08:57 AM
Guess I'm not getting one then, damn stupid world wide release. >.>

Sorry about that. :hmm: I totally agree though, the world wide release was stupid. In my opinion they should of released it in USA/UK in 2005 like Nov 22nd and Dec 2nd but left Japan till 2006, where no-one is probably remotely interested in it anyway. Therefore we would of had the Japanese stock, which would of helped!

Anyway, i found this and it's pretty interesting. It's a picture of Kameo,

SD TV vs HDTV. Can you spot the difference? I think the grass gives it away!


http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kside6yg.jpg

Thanks to the person who got it! Whoever you are.... :wink:

Ashley
18-11-2005, 10:08 AM
The grass difference is nice, but would I pay £1000+ for it, nope. I cant really find many other differences, other than the fact she looks more burnt on HD. I know its pics from a TV which are bound to be iffy, but it seems like a cheat that non-HD isn't much different than Xbox.

Meik
18-11-2005, 10:50 AM
Not really much difference apart from the grass and more vivid colours, but then I guess the difference would be a lot more apparent if you were to actually compare the two in person whilst they were in motion.

(I'm just trying to justify selling a load of unwanted junk on eBay so I can buy that £600 Samsung HDTV).

m_fergy
18-11-2005, 11:48 AM
PGR3 Gets A 10 (http://xbox360.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3145713&did=1) :D

Thats good as im gettin it

Just have to wait and see what PDZ gets now

Aussie
18-11-2005, 12:00 PM
Carrying the Torch for Xbox 360

As executive producer for Rare's Xbox 360 titles, Jim Veevaert was responsible for making sure the console's flagship title, Perfect Dark Zero, made it to market in time; and that it justified those lofty expectations. Next Generation spoke to the man in the spotlight…

Right now, his is perhaps one of the most onerous tasks in the game industry. The next generation begins next week; and it partly turns on whether or not Perfect Dark Zero is up to snuff.

"It's an incredible challenge," he says. "It's been crazy the past couple of weeks. It's been extraordinary. Getting two titles out at launch is something I have never done before. Rare is not typically a launch development studio. They usually say the game will come when it's ready. This was a big thing for them to get these two games out at launch."

Rare, in typical fashion, left everybody sweating to the end. Microsoft was forced to press the game before it had passed its certification; a gamble that paid off (see yesterday's story). "We have always known the rough date for when 360 was going to hit and so for us it has been a fine balance of managing the quality of the game and hitting that date," Veevaert says.

Perfect history

He explains the history of PDZ and how it came to represent Microsoft's hopes and aspirations. "Originally Perfect Dark was slated for Xbox. The game we had in development looked really good, but it was going to hit market around the time of Halo 2, in November 04. So we looked at it and thought about it and we saw how big it was and we decided the game could be fully realized if it was pushed to the next platform. It made a lot more sense."

He adds, "There is a certain value in a game being there on day one, against a game that ships three months later and we felt that this would be perfect. Given the opportunity to make the game ready for the launch of the platform we all agreed this was the right thing to do. There's enough content in there to keep players happy for months on end, and still go back for more. "

Big numbers

Shortages will not be a problem for Perfect Dark Zero. Microsoft is pressing one copy of the game for every piece of hardware, with 700,000 going into the channel in the first week of launch, followed by new supplies, depending on the tie-ratio.

You can't get more ambitious than a 100% tie-ratio. "I feel pretty good about the fact that Perfect Dark is absolutely the flagship game for the box," says Veervaert. "If gamers are interested in first person shooters, this will be very good for them."

Veervaert's job carries him between Redmond and Rare's HQ in the tiny English village of Twycross. He explains his role, "I spend a lot of my time going back and forth to the UK. I'm on the Rare executive team, so I'm involved in product strategy - what games we are developing next, how teams are being managed, how partnerships are being managed, how budgets are being set. I spend about a week out of every month in the UK and over here I oversee four producers who work on Rare titles."

He says his role is to co-ordinate, oversee, suggest, finesse and, above all, keep everyone in the loop. "The executive team works closely together to review product, make decisions collectively and decide on strategies. I spend a lot of time getting everybody updates on where we are up to and the decisions we are making. Managing the integration and relationship between Rare and Microsoft is central to my role."

So what is the level of his creative input? "Sometimes teams will come back with proposals on the directions they would like to go and I'll be very active in terms of giving design feedback. I don't sit down and say 'I'm going to go ahead and design this game', but I give plenty of feedback on each of the products that go out."

Next: The Halo Factor (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1673&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=1)

Next-Gen

Caris
18-11-2005, 12:01 PM
HD isnt all that in my opinion, beacuse with the picture being clearer, yes it better "quality" but it shows jagged edges and things like that up more...

system_error
18-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Yeah rushing a game out and skipping certification is ALWAYS good especially if the game is a online game (!= bug free) ...

cheets
18-11-2005, 01:25 PM
Sorry about that. :hmm: I totally agree though, the world wide release was stupid. In my opinion they should of released it in USA/UK in 2005 like Nov 22nd and Dec 2nd but left Japan till 2006, where no-one is probably remotely interested in it anyway. Therefore we would of had the Japanese stock, which would of helped!

Anyway, i found this and it's pretty interesting. It's a picture of Kameo,

SD TV vs HDTV. Can you spot the difference? I think the grass gives it away!


http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kside6yg.jpg

Thanks to the person who got it! Whoever you are.... :wink:

its the same hd tv, i asked someone on OcUK

m_fergy
18-11-2005, 01:45 PM
its the same hd tv, i asked someone on OcUK

aye it mite be the same tv but the HD option would have been turned off

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 02:37 PM
Guess I'm not getting one then, damn stupid world wide release. >.>


Bad luck, I managed to put an order in with Woolworths yesterday and have today got confirmation that my 360 will be sent out on the second.
I may not be getting it at launch, but at least I'm getting it.
If you're desperate Argos are still taking orders on core units.

Domstercool
18-11-2005, 02:48 PM
Argos online? If so i suppose i could buy a core unit.

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 02:53 PM
Argos online? If so i suppose i could buy a core unit.

Woolworths website still has core units too, with either PGR3 or PDZ and a memory card, better choice than Argos, plus you don't get lumbered with King Kong.

Owen
18-11-2005, 02:57 PM
Woolworths website still has core units too, with either PGR3 or PDZ and a memory card, better choice than Argos, plus you don't get lumbered with King Kong.

King Kong looks pretty good i thought! Still each to their own! :smile:

Bren
18-11-2005, 03:17 PM
Rokhed wots Games number? need to ring them to see if i got a 360

oops just saw the number at top of website, :D

*rang them, and stupid depressing woman on phone says " your not confirmed for release, but quite high on list so you should get one shortly after "

WANKERS!

The3rdChildren
18-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Asda at midnight it is, then.

Oli1983uk
18-11-2005, 03:52 PM
the manager told me in woolworths that if u dont like the game u get with there packs then you can take the game into there store and they will change it, but the game has to be sealed.

Rokhed how did u find out u was getting it sent out on the 2nd as i also pre ordered yesterday with woolworths and when i spoke to a bloke ont he phone he told he didnt know if i would get it!

they did have fifa aswell but the have removed it

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 03:55 PM
the manager told me in woolworths that if u dont like the game u get with there packs then you can take the game into there store and they will change it, but the game has to be sealed.


There's only two choices with Woolworths anyway, PDZ or PGR3, must be something wrong with someone who doesn't want either of them.

Meik
18-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Bad luck, I managed to put an order in with Woolworths yesterday and have today got confirmation that my 360 will be sent out on the second.
I may not be getting it at launch, but at least I'm getting it.
If you're desperate Argos are still taking orders on core units.So are Woolworths still taking preorders on the premium packs? And did you order at the website or in-store?

Oli1983uk
18-11-2005, 04:00 PM
Meik i did mine in store on there electric cataloge guide thing.

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 04:11 PM
So are Woolworths still taking preorders on the premium packs? And did you order at the website or in-store?


Core only on the website, but you might get lucky in store.

Meik
18-11-2005, 04:45 PM
Righto.

I just checked my preorder on Amazon and it says that I will recieve it "no later than the 24 Dec" so that's good news. Anytime before Christmas is good for me. I placed the preorder on the 30th September, so I doubted i'd even get one this year.

scubahood
18-11-2005, 05:31 PM
Yesturday i went round all the shops i could think of that would get 360's in. Sainsburys, Asda and Tesco didn't have a clue. PC World told me they weren't sure if they would yet they have a demo pod so i imagine they will the guy said they're not taking pre-orders because they don't know if they are getting them so that is promising. My local Currys also said the same as PC world.

Ormingstoke
18-11-2005, 05:58 PM
I thought I'd left it too late, on Saturday I went in and put my name on a list in Woolies , Monday afternoon they rang up and ordered it for me over the phone, the premium unit and Project Gotham (which I had intended to trade immediatly (not one for realistic racers) for Kameo, but seeing the reviews it's getting I may well keep it and buy Kameo) and guaranteed delivery on the 2nd.

God bless Woolies if they get it to me, and I'll reward them by phoning in sick on Boxing Day, I'll be Perfect Dark-ing.

CooInTheZoo
18-11-2005, 09:26 PM
I played the Demo pod today!! Wow, it was weird to move about ok Kameo AND that war shooty! I dont know if i like Kameo loads, but it was only a demo i guess, and WOW i cant wait!

Jordan
18-11-2005, 09:34 PM
"War Shooty"?
That's Call of Duty 2 you uncultured fool! :D

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 09:54 PM
I thought I'd left it too late, on Saturday I went in and put my name on a list in Woolies , Monday afternoon they rang up and ordered it for me over the phone, the premium unit and Project Gotham (which I had intended to trade immediatly (not one for realistic racers) for Kameo, but seeing the reviews it's getting I may well keep it and buy Kameo) and guaranteed delivery on the 2nd.

God bless Woolies if they get it to me, and I'll reward them by phoning in sick on Boxing Day, I'll be Perfect Dark-ing.

Looks like Woolies are going to be a lot of peoples saviours this christmas, after all the places like GAME and Gameplay have let us down.

I heard a rumour that Woolworths are getting more 360s than GAME and Gameplay put together.

JonSt
18-11-2005, 09:58 PM
Looks like Woolies are going to be a lot of peoples saviours this christmas, after all the places like GAME and Gameplay have let us down.

I heard a rumour that Woolworths are getting more 360s than GAME and Gameplay put together.

Why do people keep saying gameplay let you down, its quite simple, they have a set number of consoles, which the give to people on a first come basis, people have no one but thereselves to blame if they were to late to order.

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 10:14 PM
Why do people keep saying gameplay let you down, its quite simple, they have a set number of consoles, which the give to people on a first come basis, people have no one but thereselves to blame if they were to late to order.

I'd say promising people the console for months and then telling them they aren't getting it at the last minute letting people down. Plenty of people were told they ordered in time only to find out when it's almost too late that they didn't.
I know it's not their fault, but the end results the same. Really they should have waited for their allocation numbers before they started promising anybody a launch day delivery.

And it was GAME that let me down, not Gameplay.

Stocka
18-11-2005, 10:35 PM
"War Shooty"?
That's Call of Duty 2 you uncultured fool! :D
Ahahahaha Coo is turning into a casual gamer.

JonSt
18-11-2005, 10:48 PM
I'd say promising people the console for months and then telling them they aren't getting it at the last minute letting people down. Plenty of people were told they ordered in time only to find out when it's almost too late that they didn't.
I know it's not their fault, but the end results the same. Really they should have waited for their allocation numbers before they started promising anybody a launch day delivery.

And it was GAME that let me down, not Gameplay.

I didnt mean you, i meant people in general, what exactly have gameplay been telling you, they always said to me you should be ok but that they couldnt guarantee it.

Bren
18-11-2005, 10:56 PM
im pissed with Game, if they had said to me i wasnt getting it 2nd of dec i wud of been straight into town around the 18th and laid some money down. fuckers.

im going to chester tmw to try my luck on ordering one, and testing out the demo pod :)

Game.net :

IF I ORDER NOW AM I GUARANTEED A CONSOLE FOR LAUNCH / CHRISTMAS?
Unfortunately not - demand for Xbox 360 has been phenomenal. We have now sold out of our expected first allocation and are unable to promise delivery before Christmas if you place an order after 14:30 on 22nd August 2005.

WANKERS!

CooInTheZoo
18-11-2005, 11:13 PM
I think the intro to Kameo is the funniest shit ive ever seen, anyone agree?

rokhed00
18-11-2005, 11:23 PM
I didnt mean you, i meant people in general, what exactly have gameplay been telling you, they always said to me you should be ok but that they couldnt guarantee it.

I didn't order with Gameplay, so they didn't tell me anything. Just going from what I've heard from others.

im pissed with Game, if they had said to me i wasnt getting it 2nd of dec i wud of been straight into town around the 18th and laid some money down. fuckers.

im going to chester tmw to try my luck on ordering one, and testing out the demo pod :)

Game.net :

IF I ORDER NOW AM I GUARANTEED A CONSOLE FOR LAUNCH / CHRISTMAS?
Unfortunately not - demand for Xbox 360 has been phenomenal. We have now sold out of our expected first allocation and are unable to promise delivery before Christmas if you place an order after 14:30 on 22nd August 2005.

WANKERS!


Go to Woolworths or Argos, they're probably the only places left taking pre-orders now.

Aussie
19-11-2005, 01:38 AM
Perfect Dark Zero

Cinematic Trailer HD

Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/download.php?id=8505&type=wmv&f=)

cheets
19-11-2005, 02:10 AM
http://www.areagames.de/forum.aspx?action=Topic&TopicID=149&start=1400

PGR3 on a PAL TV

Owen
19-11-2005, 10:12 AM
Perfect Dark Zero scored a '9' in OXM!

1UP, IGN, Gamespot and Gamespy are posting impressions constantly and most of them love it!

The reviews will be availible to read 'Tuesday 22nd November'.

Is Microsoft worried that PD0 may not live up to expectations?

13 DAYS TO GO! :D

m_fergy
19-11-2005, 10:28 AM
9 thats good enough for me

1up gave PGR3 a 10 :D

Im gettin both for my xbox. A 9 & 10 is good enough for me

CooInTheZoo
19-11-2005, 12:02 PM
http://www.areagames.de/forum.aspx?action=Topic&TopicID=149&start=1400

PGR3 on a PAL TV

I had seen them, and was worried. But they are just screens, im sure seeing it running in motion will be alot better. Infact i know-so, i played a pod yesterday and though its not the 'next generation' we were all imagining a year or so ago, it is a big improvement. If you only buy games for the graphics, then bloody rent an xmen movie

Owen
19-11-2005, 01:40 PM
I've just realised, i'm getting all excited about Perfect Dark Zero CO-OP mode, but i don't know if you can actually play offline, split-screen, two-player CO-OP on the same machine and TV set (not system link).

Like Perfect Dark's co-op for the N64 for example?

:)

JonSt
19-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Perfect Dark Zero scored a '9' in OXM!

1UP, IGN, Gamespot and Gamespy are posting impressions constantly and most of them love it!

The reviews will be availible to read 'Tuesday 22nd November'.

Is Microsoft worried that PD0 may not live up to expectations?

13 DAYS TO GO! :D

The mistake your making is listening to 1up, they are idiots whose reviews appear to be wriiten by 3 year old.

Caris
19-11-2005, 02:23 PM
I dont belive Magazine are Bi-est, but PDZ i can imagine OXM having to give it 9+ beacuse its a game thats gonna make the 360 luanch fail or succed.

Owen
19-11-2005, 02:38 PM
The mistake your making is listening to 1up, they are idiots whose reviews appear to be wriiten by 3 year old.

I did actually think that, their scoring is a little off as well. It's just good to read new impressons, thats all.

:)

So does anyone know if PD0 has offline, one system co-op?

Meik
19-11-2005, 02:45 PM
So does anyone know if PD0 has offline, one system co-op?I'm pretty sure you can, it'd be a bit silly to include system link and online co-op and leave out the most popular co-op mode (playing on the same TV).

Bren
19-11-2005, 03:17 PM
went into PCworld today,

guy said theyve got 500 xbox 360's for 160 stores, so about 3 per store, but larger stores wil be getting more, and smaller stores less. And theyrenot taking pre-orders, first come, first serve.

so 6am camping out i think :)

Jordan
19-11-2005, 03:19 PM
No pre-orders? What the hell? :-/

Bren
19-11-2005, 03:33 PM
duno, dude just said theyre not allowed or something, ima ring up again tmw to confirm it like. But ill have to go early

Bowser57
19-11-2005, 04:08 PM
360 review scores from Edge...

PGR3 9
Kameo 7
Condemned: Criminal Origins 6
Call Of Duty 2 7

Sarka
19-11-2005, 05:04 PM
http://www.areagames.de/forum.aspx?action=Topic&TopicID=149&start=1400

PGR3 on a PAL TV

Wow, I wasn't expecting that. Those really don't look like what I was expecting for next-gen. I'm sure these games are fantastic, but do they justify buying a new console?

Haver
19-11-2005, 05:25 PM
I've just been playing Path of Neo on Xbox.

I would recommend that you do before anyone condemns next-generation visuals.

Stocka
19-11-2005, 05:40 PM
http://www.areagames.de/forum.aspx?action=Topic&TopicID=149&start=1400

PGR3 on a PAL TV

That's appaling. Like Coo said i'm sure it will look better in motion but I have my doubts as someone I know says he's played 360 on a normal TV and it doesn't look next gen at all.

Domstercool
19-11-2005, 05:42 PM
The city textures still look damn nice.

Retro_Link
19-11-2005, 05:57 PM
Went into PC World today and they said, "no point, there's going to be nowhere near enough", They're not really expecting to get any!

Also Woolworths, have reached their pre-order limit.

http://www.areagames.de/forum.aspx?action=Topic&TopicID=149&start=1400

PGR3 on a PAL TVLooks Rubbish!!

This is more like it; http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=6953&pl=game&type=wmv

Owen
19-11-2005, 07:25 PM
I think Project Gotham Racing 3 will look better when it's running. I don't think the screenshots are 'that' bad, a little bland i suppose, but i'm going to keep my opinion to myself until i actually play the game and see it in motion.

:)

Off-Topic: How shite is X-Factor getting? Chico is shite, and the whole Chico-Time thing is ruining the little slice of respect the show had left. :)

Stocka
19-11-2005, 07:27 PM
Off-Topic: How shite is X-Factor getting? Chico is shite, and the whole Chico-Time thing is ruining the little slice of respect the show had left. :)
I found it quite entertaining :heh:
Oh and louie is a wanker :smile:

m_fergy
19-11-2005, 07:31 PM
What Arcade games are yous getting ??

Games (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/livearcadexbox360/default.htm)

Im going to get

Gauntlet
Smash TV

because i loved them when i was ickle

I mite get Geometry Wars Evolved aswell as it has good reviews. I will try the demo first

Owen
19-11-2005, 07:43 PM
I found it quite entertaining :heh:
Oh and louie is a wanker :smile:

Yeah it was entertaining, it's just Chico annoying me really and it wasn't really fair for him to sing his own song his releasing either! Nevermind, Shayne or Journey South to win!

Anyway back on-topic, lol, I seriously CANNOT wait for the Xbox360 anymore, i've done a year of waiting at least and now it's like 12/13 days to go, i just can't do it anymore! :sad:

PLEASE god, hurry up the time!!!!!!!!!!! :D or at least make it be thursday 24th, so i'll be hopefully playing Mario Kart DS!

rokhed00
19-11-2005, 07:45 PM
What Arcade games are yous getting ??

Games (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/livearcadexbox360/default.htm)

Im going to get

Gauntlet
Smash TV

because i loved them when i was ickle

I mite get Geometry Wars Evolved aswell as it has good reviews. I will try the demo first


Definitely Guantlet, the Live multiplayer on it should be awesome.
Maybe Joust and Robotron too for nostalgias sake.

Retro_Link
19-11-2005, 07:58 PM
Are the Basic Xbox 360 packs expected to sell out as well, or just the Premeium 360's?

Yeah it was entertaining,
Journey South to win!WHAT TIME IS IT!!!!! Go-Chico-Go-Chico-Go

And Journey South were great tonight! Did as good as/a better version of Angels than Robbie!

JonSt
19-11-2005, 08:33 PM
No arcade games for me, just proper games.

Meik
19-11-2005, 08:38 PM
If Smash TV can be played over Live, i'm all over that shit.

Stocka
19-11-2005, 08:43 PM
Are the Basic Xbox 360 packs expected to sell out as well, or just the Premeium 360's?

WHAT TIME IS IT!!!!! Go-Chico-Go-Chico-Go

And Journey South were great tonight! Did as good as/a better version of Angels than Robbie!
Don't think so(first question)
Journey South were brilliant, no-one could sing it as good as Robbie but I think they done better than anyone else in the competition could. I want JS to win.

Jordan
19-11-2005, 08:47 PM
Stop talking about X factor, or i'll come down on this thread like a tonne of bricks.

Last warning...
STOP TALKING ABOUT X FACTOR
That is all.

Domstercool
19-11-2005, 09:04 PM
X ARRGGH. All these X things are making me upset that I won't be getting a 360. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Retro_Link
19-11-2005, 09:15 PM
X ARRGGH. All these X things are making me upset that I won't be getting a 360. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!If as 'Stocka' says, the basic 360 packs aren't expected to sell out, can't you just get one of those?

m_fergy
19-11-2005, 09:34 PM
Quick Question

Not sure if it has been asked before. Sorry if it has

but you can download / buy Arcade Game and Themes im just wondering if you can send them to your friends instead of them buying them ??

thx

That Guy
19-11-2005, 10:03 PM
I won't call you a fanboy, but you know, when you can play Xbox 360 games extensively, maybe youll come to the conclusion those games are actually fun to play too? Just because you just watched demo's, you don't know if games are fun to play or not, right?

Oh yeah, of course, however I've not seen any so far that have attracted my interest.

Aussie
19-11-2005, 10:37 PM
Premium - Xbox 360

Contents * Xbox 360 Console *

* 2 Manuals * 4 AA Batteries * Headset * HD Video Cord * Media Remote * Power Cord * Power Strip * Wireless Controller *

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/x3601.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/x3602.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/x3603.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/x3604.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/aussie-nintendo/x3605.jpg

ActiveXBox (http://www.activewin.com/xbox/articles/2005/10.shtml)

Dan Dare
19-11-2005, 10:58 PM
pdz impressions up at IGN.

rokhed00
19-11-2005, 11:16 PM
Premium - Xbox 360

Contents * Xbox 360 Console *

* 2 Manuals * 4 AA Batteries * Headset * HD Video Cord * Media Remote * Power Cord * Power Strip * Wireless Controller *


No standard AV cable?

What about people with no HDTV?

JonSt
19-11-2005, 11:30 PM
No standard AV cable?

What about people with no HDTV?

The AV cable is included on the hd one, just plug in the three colours, in europe a scart block will also come with it.

cheets
20-11-2005, 12:09 AM
tbh i think the core packs will sell out on the 2nd, as people and parents go in to shops to buy a xbox 360 prem pack, shops will bundle a core with a hdd.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/images/products/XT1000_4_lq.jpg

this is the cable you get with the xbox prem pack.

CompSci
20-11-2005, 12:47 PM
meh i am not buying any next gen consoles, till all three of them are out together, but i proberly will be buying a reverlution regardless, unless nintendo are putting zelda on either the ps3 or Xbox 360, its just between the ps3 and xbox360 then, also when is nintendo gonar release info about the reverlution i.e price and bundles, since i want to pre-order mine asap

rokhed00
20-11-2005, 12:57 PM
tbh i think the core packs will sell out on the 2nd, as people and parents go in to shops to buy a xbox 360 prem pack, shops will bundle a core with a hdd.


More than likely, a lot of places are sold out of core packs as it is though, so it won't do much to alleviate the shortage.

Owen
20-11-2005, 01:49 PM
If anything happens to my Gameplay order, i'll be mad if it does of course seeing as though they have emailed me telling i have got one, but i will get a Core Pack if i had too.

I'm not missing out on a Xbox360 on December 2nd! :smile:

12 DAYS TO GO! Nearly done it now, really. Not long to wait at all. :smile:

CooInTheZoo
20-11-2005, 01:53 PM
That looks so sexy. ARGH i'm gonna be so miserable with my wired pads, at least i have one this year though. I dont wanna add to the hype, but if you can get one pre-ordered now DO IT! It will totally spoil your xmas if your counting on a premium pack and you cant get any pack on launch.

Owen
20-11-2005, 02:27 PM
That looks so sexy. ARGH i'm gonna be so miserable with my wired pads, at least i have one this year though. I dont wanna add to the hype, but if you can get one pre-ordered now DO IT! It will totally spoil your xmas if your counting on a premium pack and you cant get any pack on launch.

At this time, i have two Premium packs on preorder.

I'm guranteed both actually, i'm not taking any chances! :D Once i have one in my hands which is working perfectly, i will give the other preorder to someone else.

The comet one may be 2nd December or the following week, so the woman said working there. The Gameplay one December 1st (please god) or on launch-day! I just hope nothing goes wrong.

The wired pads don't really bother me, as you can buy a wireless one.
It's not having a Hard-drive because you can buy one of them.

It's just your missing out on the other extras like a HDTV cable which is important to me, as i have a Samsung HDTV (rear projection, but the quality of the picture in games is still fantastic) and the disc tray isn't shiny, which is a little bit of a con etc..and it's a different colour isn't it?

Overall though, the CORE pack isn't bad at all, if you have the money to go out and buy the other extra bits you need.

I don't care anymore anyway, just give me a damn Xbox360 to play PDZ/Kameo on NOW!!!!!!! :D

Moz La Punk
20-11-2005, 03:14 PM
The wait is killing me.

I need my Premium package with 7 games.... god...

Sarka
20-11-2005, 03:18 PM
At this time, i have two Premium packs on preorder.

I'm guranteed both actually, i'm not taking any chances! :D Once i have one in my hands which is working perfectly, i will give the other preorder to someone else.

The comet one may be 2nd December or the following week, so the woman said working there. The Gameplay one December 1st (please god) or on launch-day! I just hope nothing goes wrong.

The wired pads don't really bother me, as you can buy a wireless one.
It's not having a Hard-drive because you can buy one of them.

It's just your missing out on the other extras like a HDTV cable which is important to me, as i have a Samsung HDTV (rear projection, but the quality of the picture in games is still fantastic) and the disc tray isn't shiny, which is a little bit of a con etc..and it's a different colour isn't it?

Overall though, the CORE pack isn't bad at all, if you have the money to go out and buy the other extra bits you need.

I don't care anymore anyway, just give me a damn Xbox360 to play PDZ/Kameo on NOW!!!!!!! :D

You oculd sell one on eBay and make a great £100 profit.

JonSt
20-11-2005, 03:24 PM
You oculd sell one on eBay and make a great £100 profit.

Your setting your sights too low chris, you could easy double your money on it.

Owen
20-11-2005, 03:51 PM
^I may do that, although i would feel really bad. :hmm:

I'll see. The Comet i preordered didn't have hardly any preorders anyway, and they stated there getting quite a few in.....so perhaps i could? :D

rokhed00
20-11-2005, 04:44 PM
^I may do that, although i would feel really bad. :hmm:

I'll see. The Comet i preordered didn't have hardly any preorders anyway, and they stated there getting quite a few in.....so perhaps i could? :D


Go for it, that's what I'm doing.
I have an order with GAME and one with Woolworths, the Woolworths one is guaranteed for launch, the GAME one isn't, but if it turns up before christmas I'm going to put it on ebay for a very healthy profit.
I'm also toying with the idea of going round some local shops and seeing if they've got any left to order, considering I can make an easy £200 on each one I think it's worth my while.

After looking at some of the prices on Ebay (can you believe £1500) I don't feel bad about doing it at all.

cheets
20-11-2005, 04:55 PM
yeah, but depending on the rumors of more stock week by week till xmas, i think there could be alot of xbox 360 on ebay, but you'll always get your money back.

CooInTheZoo
20-11-2005, 05:14 PM
Anyone getting 2 premiums wanna sell me a headset or media remote? :P

Ashley
20-11-2005, 06:13 PM
yeah, but depending on the rumors of more stock week by week till xmas, i think there could be alot of xbox 360 on ebay, but you'll always get your money back.

Dunno about those rumours but we were told by "the microsoft lady" (as shes been dubbed) that they are planning a 'relaunch' in April. Dunno if that means they just won't be doing any new stock until then, or if there'll be a trickle until then and in April there will be a huge delivery. Either way its gonna be tricky.

Oh and I kinda played one today. Was wondering round Comet and there was a pod. Started a game of Kameo but took too long to go past all the intros and such and a kid wanted a go so I let him. Looked okay, the pad felt kinda...dunno. Slightly rougher than normal plastic, not rough, but rougher than smooth.

Domstercool
20-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Relaunch in April? Ouch that kinda sucks. I could be in for a long wait...

Owen
20-11-2005, 07:15 PM
Relaunch in April? Ouch that kinda sucks. I could be in for a long wait...

That makes me think Microsoft know something we don't? :confused:

Why 're-launch' in April? Perhaps that rumoured June Revolution world-wide release could well be true? and Microsoft kinda re-launch two months before to get more hype for the Xbox360 and less for the Revolution? which i doubt...but you never know?

April for more stock seems kinda daft to me! Theres no-way i'll want to wait till April 2006 to play Kameo/PDZ for example!

I reckon there will be small allocations going into certain shops way up to christmas and beyond, therefore Microsoft don't lose out on sales.

Well i hope anyway. :smile:

JonSt
20-11-2005, 07:33 PM
That makes me think Microsoft know something we don't? :confused:


Not really a suprise is it, you know, it is their console afterall.

Owen
20-11-2005, 07:39 PM
Not really a suprise is it, you know, it is their console afterall.

Cheeky! :grin:

Yes i know that, but they might of heard through the gaming grape vine that Nintendo are releasing a console in JUNE somewhere....

:)

The3rdChildren
20-11-2005, 07:57 PM
You can't launch a console twice in the same region. If there are mass shortages Microsoft are only hurting themselves, because their wealth is clearly reason enough for them to be able to produce enough units for everyone... yet they aren't.

Whole thing feels a bit rushed out the door to me, but that's not gonna stop me getting one. IGN speak fondly enough about the multiplayer to redeem what people are calling a lackluster launch title.

1UP
20-11-2005, 08:08 PM
Does anyone know if you can earn points for market place buy playing on XBL or do you have to buy the points?

Moz La Punk
20-11-2005, 08:42 PM
Does anyone know if you can earn points for market place buy playing on XBL or do you have to buy the points?

You will have to buy points in the form of a special pass in shops.

You will get other points for completing games but you can do nothing with that, except show off.

1UP
20-11-2005, 09:37 PM
^^^Argh. thats gay, thanks anyways/

Ashley
20-11-2005, 10:24 PM
Id imagine there will be short supplies, but I think it'll be even worse than the PSP has been for the last few months to get hold of. I think "relaunch" is just a fancy way of saying "big supply", but I think maybe Microsoft might re-pimp it round April. Would have to be an interesting campaign "You can now actually buy the xbox 360, we've finally made enough stock!"

Jordan
20-11-2005, 10:40 PM
Ha! Indeed Ash. I can see MS doing that too, the bastards.

JonSt
21-11-2005, 01:25 AM
Ha! Indeed Ash. I can see MS doing that too, the bastards.

Wont bother me, ill have one come launch.

Bren
21-11-2005, 07:03 AM
The whole 're-launch in april' idea; When i went into Game, asked if by a small chance any pre-orders left (iv ordered on 18th from Game.net but not in 1st batch), but as i guessed, he said no, and added "Youll be lucky to get one before easter".

So its a possibility of an easter relaunch?

Owen
21-11-2005, 09:48 AM
OK i'm going to change the subject about shortages as i'm still really worried even being told by Gameplay i have one! LOL :grin:

Anyway something exciting to think about, someone from IGN has stated on the Xbox360 forums that there has been a Xbox360 game they have just reviewed that has 'BLOWN THEM AWAY'. He/she also stated that it's NOT Perfect Dark Zero!!!!!! (god help us).

They stated that the review will be up early Monday morning. It isn't there yet but do they mean like 8am in USA time??

Remember this could be aload of rubbish, and it normally is, so don't get your hopes to high.

but for fun, which game do you think it could be? My bets are on King Kong, which in my opinion looks fantastic!

It could be either:

King Kong
Dead Or Alive 4
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2006
Quake 4

Also, it could of blown them away for all the wrong reasons! :grin:

Owen
21-11-2005, 10:02 AM
Sorry i've double posted! :grin:

Ridge Racer got a 7.0 on IGN by the way!