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ShadowV7
19-04-2006, 06:33 PM
Katamari Creator Snubs Controller Hype


In an interview with the Game Developer magazine, Katamari Damacy creator Keita Takahashi has given his opinion on the Nintendo Revolution Controler. "I'm not really interested in it ,I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."

Takahashi elaborated, "I see what [Nintendo is] trying to do, but they're putting such emphasis on the controller; 'Woah, this controller lets you do this!' and I'm thinking - are you messing with us?" He concluded on the subject of Revolution when he said "there's nothing I really want to do with it right now."

Source:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=8952

Well this is a shock.Discuss.

Nintendork
19-04-2006, 06:36 PM
What a shock, he made his game.. and he moved on.
He's not interested in computer games anymore, he wants to make childrens playgrounds.

I can totally dig what he's saying.. but you have to understand, he's like Miyamoto in ways. His job is to make people smile and from a fundamental point of view he probably thinks the idea is more important than the technology.

Kudos to him.
He made a great game and I have much respect for him for not giving into the interviewers invasive questions about how 'everyone' will want him to make a game for the console. If he's not interested he's not interested.. no big deal.

kav82
19-04-2006, 07:06 PM
What's funny is that I can see the Rev controller being great for the Katamari games!

You reckon he was saying the same thing when Nintendo stuck the analogue stick on the N64 pad? Controller is very important, how can he not realise that?!

Hellfire
19-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Yeah, he's right you could even be controlling games via a bear, it's all the same.
/sarcasm

ZeldaFreak
19-04-2006, 07:53 PM
Didn't Namco force him to make a sequelwhen he didn't want to?

:confused:

myster0n
20-04-2006, 06:39 AM
Yeah, he's right you could even be controlling games via a bear, it's all the same.
/sarcasm You mean like this :
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20020325h.gif

Owen
20-04-2006, 07:26 AM
I'm getting a sense of anger from him. Quite shocked he spoke this way!

Nevermind.

ZeldaFreak
20-04-2006, 08:07 AM
Well he has outspoken before on the games industry, that is to say why he is moving out of it until maybe one day coming back.

Hellfire
20-04-2006, 11:49 AM
Exactly like that comic, but I didn't bother to find it ;)
The more I think about this, the more ridiculous. Not abandoning Katamari that's cool, but a creator that clearly wants to innovate that abandons a controller because it's innovative. wow, that makes a lot of sense. It seems to me he's
a)bitter
b)Sony fanboy
c)being pressured
An yeah Namco forced him to make Katamari2

The3rdChildren
20-04-2006, 12:14 PM
Oh no, no Katamari for the Revolution. I've been depressed for a while, but this new twist is pouring salt into my wrist-gashes. I think now is a good time to end it all and face the reaper.

See you on the other side, my friends.

[edit]

Fuck Katamari.

ZeldaFreak
20-04-2006, 12:24 PM
You know whats the saddest thing about it is that if Namco didn't force him to make a sequel, thus feeling less pressurized then he would of:

(A) wanted to stay in the games industry

(B) May of had some cool other games designs, and stuff

Plus a friend let me play the origonal import version Katamari Damacy as I haven't yet goy my *cough*modded PStwo*cough* And it was a mighty fine game.

Shame, another one has bitten the dust so to speak

monkeyDluffy
20-04-2006, 12:44 PM
the thing that pissed me off was that EA just released the second one, why couldn't they do a bumper pack with the first included, cause the first had better music and a strange "I feel it" girl in the cut scenes. Having said that I'm glad they did actually release one of them!

Nintendork
20-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Every person who called him a fanboy or anything along those lines is a cock, this includes the following people.

Hellfire and the3rdchildren.

ZeldaFreak he wouldn't have stayed.. he made one game and that was it, he was out of ideas and felt that he had accomplished soemthing he could really enjoy telling his grandchildren one day.
Capcom did pressure him, and due to the financial success said that if he wasn't interested they would develop it anyway.
Being true to the fans who would be possibly laying down their money for a poor game he agreed to stay on for We <3 Katamari and Me and My Katamari for PSP. They have agreed that now he is done they will let the series rest and he is not bound to them again.

He was probably angry because he was being interviewed by a cock who knows nothing about him.. If I was interviewing someone like that I would probably Google him and read for a few minutes, I understand the point of an interview is to learn something about someone but there is just being plane ignorant.

He was acting agressive because he doesn't want to make games anymore, and probably doesn't want to talk about them anymore.
If someone says "so are you going to make one for Nintendo's Revolution" i'd be pretty pissed off too. The media has now interpretted it as he hates Nintendo now.

I would rather see peeople like Keita brining their original ideas to the games industry once rather than them being shunted off because their long term financial contribution is not as good as the likes of Fifa and EA games.
What Keita hasdone is quite pioneering.. someone with no gaming experience just an interesting point of view on the world and transferred his skills into a game.

We should thank him more than anything.. his success has no doubt influenced Iwata's Blue Ocean strategy heavily.

Wolf
20-04-2006, 03:07 PM
He's not in the industry any longer, so why should we care?

Patch
20-04-2006, 03:09 PM
Every person who called him a fanboy or anything along those lines is a cock, this includes the following people.

Please don't call people names. Let's all behave like adults shall we?

ShadowV7
20-04-2006, 03:09 PM
I don't ,I can live without it.

Nintendork
20-04-2006, 03:09 PM
Because everyone thinks that every single thing that falls out of Nintendo's arse is gold. Anyone who speaks against it is banished.
I'm really suprised Joystiq and Kotaku ran with this story.

http://www.nathankowald.com/uploaded_images/powerglove-763142.jpg
No shit?

ShadowV7
20-04-2006, 03:12 PM
I don't think everything that fall's out of Nintendo's arse is gold and you shouldn't speak for everyone here and saying 'banished' is quite the over statement.

The3rdChildren
20-04-2006, 03:25 PM
Every person who called him a fanboy or anything along those lines is a cock, this includes the following people.

Hellfire and The3rdChildren.

No, no. I just don't care about Katamari at all. I was merely posting an equally negative statement to accompany Katamari man's one (I can't be bothered to find his name out). He's clearly pissed off or bitter about something there.

But hey, you said I'm a cock and I definately am. I just want to go public here stating that everything that falls out of Nintendo's ass -is- gold and that I can't wait to buy several Revolution consoles to construct an elaborate throne upon which I plan to sit and play my remaining Revolution console. I will be a gigantic cock playing my Revolution.

Ya know, I'm just going to throw a little more fuel into the blazing inferno here and outright state that I think that Katamari man is a fanboy. He is the greatest of fanboys, in no great way. His status as a fanboy is an established fact and this could go on forever but I'm going to stop rambling.

I'll see you all in the banished lands. Bring extra controllers.

ZeldaFreak
20-04-2006, 03:33 PM
Every person who called him a fanboy or anything along those lines is a cock, this includes the following people.

Hellfire and the3rdchildren.

ZeldaFreak he wouldn't have stayed.. he made one game and that was it, he was out of ideas and felt that he had accomplished soemthing he could really enjoy telling his grandchildren one day.
Capcom did pressure him, and due to the financial success said that if he wasn't interested they would develop it anyway.
Being true to the fans who would be possibly laying down their money for a poor game he agreed to stay on for We <3 Katamari and Me and My Katamari for PSP. They have agreed that now he is done they will let the series rest and he is not bound to them again.

He was probably angry because he was being interviewed by a cock who knows nothing about him.. If I was interviewing someone like that I would probably Google him and read for a few minutes, I understand the point of an interview is to learn something about someone but there is just being plane ignorant.

He was acting agressive because he doesn't want to make games anymore, and probably doesn't want to talk about them anymore.
If someone says "so are you going to make one for Nintendo's Revolution" i'd be pretty pissed off too. The media has now interpretted it as he hates Nintendo now.

I would rather see peeople like Keita brining their original ideas to the games industry once rather than them being shunted off because their long term financial contribution is not as good as the likes of Fifa and EA games.
What Keita hasdone is quite pioneering.. someone with no gaming experience just an interesting point of view on the world and transferred his skills into a game.

We should thank him more than anything.. his success has no doubt influenced Iwata's Blue Ocean strategy heavily.

No offence but it was Namco not Capcom sorry

Nintendork
20-04-2006, 03:34 PM
Like Karma I guess, I thought you were just being some gay Nintendo fanboy.

Ah yeah, same thing about Namco/Capcom. they're basically anagrams anyway. :P

DiemetriX
20-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Thers so much hate in this thread. Let us all mediate for a while.

ShadowV7
20-04-2006, 04:41 PM
There is a bit,but we will forget about this with more new's that we get.

Babooo
20-04-2006, 05:07 PM
Woah just read the news. Shocking indeed. I was thinking that he was probably gonna praise the innovation of the Revolution and not critisize it. Oh well. I can see his point though.

BTW, there is alot of beef in this thread. Calm it down lads.

mario114
20-04-2006, 05:07 PM
Oh no, no Katamari for the Revolution. I've been depressed for a while, but this new twist is pouring salt into my wrist-gashes. I think now is a good time to end it all and face the reaper.

See you on the other side, my friends.

[edit]

Fuck Katamari.

Quite so, who cares what he says, as they made the last Katamari game, he's nothing without it.

ShadowV7
20-04-2006, 05:14 PM
I don't care what he say's anyway,people like it people don't.But he did seem bitter.

Colin
20-04-2006, 05:47 PM
"I'm not really interested in it ,I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."

Takahashi elaborated, "I see what [Nintendo is] trying to do, but they're putting such emphasis on the controller; 'Woah, this controller lets you do this!' and I'm thinking - are you messing with us?" He concluded on the subject of Revolution when he said "there's nothing I really want to do with it right now."

I think the comment about the controller not having overall influence on enjoyment is pretty narrow minded of him. We've moved on since days of the NES controller, and I personally can't see in my mind games like Katamari ever working on such a controller.

On the otherhand I think people may be misinterpreting what he's said. I think he's digging at the way the Revolution controller is being talked up, like it's only useful for games that are based around the motion sensors. Whether or not the controller has to be used in that way, that's all they're touting it as, gimmick comes to mind on that...........I don't know where this is comment is going, but Takahashi's a smart bloke, and knows what he's talking about.

I suppose time will tell whether he has a point at all with this.

Teppo Holmqvist
20-04-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm just surprised that of all forums that I follow, Revo-Europe board members have dealt with situation best. No Nintendo is d00m3d or "Takashi is eeevil bastard who is paid by $ony" crap. :)

Jamba
20-04-2006, 10:34 PM
I think it's nice we have quite a balanced outlook (comparitively speaking) as you get a much better look at the buisiness side of things. We can accept that devs and publishers are just people.

ShadowV7
21-04-2006, 03:14 PM
There is a lot more developers out there anyway that like's the control anyway so we shouldn't get upset.

goku21
26-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Games First’s Aaron Stanton spin kicks Katamari creator Keita Takahashi right in the side of his stupid hippy head. Why? Over the absurdity of the creator of one of the games with the worst control schemes in recent memory giving the Big N shit for emphasizing the importance of how gamers interact with games.

Here’s some meat:

For a game that should be extremely accessible, Katamari leaves even the most experienced gamer occasionally shaking the controller in frustration after they’ve been backed into a camera blind-spot and can’t turn around quickly enough to figure out how to escape.
In terms of gameplay and approaching the industry from a unique perspective, Keita Takahashi can critique all he likes.

But in terms of control schemes, in two games he’s consecutively proved he’s one of the Revolution’s least qualified critics.


You tell him, Aaron! “Naive pure wonderful and silly love” my ass!

The Revolution’s Least Qualified Critic [Games First]


Source: Kotaku