Sony losing support & money?! [Archive]

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 03:47 PM

Haver

23-09-2005, 03:50 PM

Kurt R: Please leave earth!

Cheers!

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 03:51 PM

???? :wtf: ????

Blackfox

23-09-2005, 03:51 PM

Don't let Choze hear you say that. he'll ejaculate his Sony-ridden semen all over you.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 03:55 PM

Hahaha.....Well fanboys should be BANNED!! Hahaha!!

I'm still unsure about all the consoles next Gen, I like the look of some 360 things, but other parts don't appeal to me at all. And I'm scared Nintendo might mess up.

Haver

23-09-2005, 03:55 PM

Kurt R, that's suicide!

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 03:58 PM

What's suicide!? You're confusing me!!! :(

Haver

23-09-2005, 04:06 PM

I felt a little guilty for slapping the retarded fanboy label on you so soon, but then you gave me a negative reputation point for:

Some games felt unfinished and a little recycled, but Metroid Prime made up for all that.

I now have a mandate to be an asshole! An asshole mandate, if you will.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 04:17 PM

I never did u in 4 that!! (or whatever you wanna call it) I actually agree to an extent....I might have clicked you by accident, I'm doin lots at once :sad: Sorry if I did!!

Shmotz

23-09-2005, 04:19 PM

I felt a little guilty for slapping the retarded fanboy label on you so soon, but then you gave me a negative reputation point for:

I now have a mandate to be an asshole! An asshole mandate, if you will.

You got negative rep for saying some of the Cube's games were bad? Haha.

That article thing

I'm sure Sony regrets starting the little monster called the Sony PSP

I sure as hell don't. *Watches Lost on PSP*

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 04:21 PM

Haha...neither do I...It'll do well.
What I was supposed to be highlighting with that link was the expence that Blu-ray could cost Sony.
I should have made that clearer

Shmotz

23-09-2005, 04:30 PM

Haha...neither do I...It'll do well.
What I was supposed to be highlighting with that link was the expence that Blu-ray could cost Sony.
I should have made that clearer

Sony invented BluRay technology, so that's one expense they won't need to deal with.

Well I'm not a Sony fanboy at any rate. Recently they cut 10,000 jobs and I think it was within the last year their credit rating was cut (from A+ to A). Something's not going right that's for sure :hmm:

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 04:41 PM

Well that's not all to do with their consoles. I don't think it should be even A, maybe a B. Some of their electronics have been deteriarating in quality quite a lot compared to past years. I've heard a few people talking about or mentioning the lack of quality in their newer products.

(Before people think I'm some sort of anti-Sony - though it's probably too late - I'm not)

Josh64

23-09-2005, 05:12 PM

I never realised how much trouble sony were getting into because of the great success of the ps2 but after reading that I can totally see their problem and think they should be worrying right now. I hope they dont die because although I don't think sony are that good there would be a lot of dissapointed play station fans if the playstation ended.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 05:15 PM

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.

Sorry people if I sometimes don't make sence and things, I'm rubbish at explaining things!!

Girly hiyaz!~ Gamer

23-09-2005, 05:19 PM

This thread sucks. No one post in it anymore plz.

Josh64

23-09-2005, 05:23 PM

Im quite rubbish at explaining things alot of the time too, and why does this thread suck?

Ashley

23-09-2005, 05:35 PM

No more arguing and bickering and such. And if you feel like you have been given negative karma for unjust reasons contact me.

Anyway, its an interesting article but a bit one-sided. I don't know Sony's sitch but im sure they have some things to look forward to, and the article should have looked at the positive.

Worse I see happening is PS3 comes out and people rush to buy it and it does well at launch, but then people dont buy many games and such, opting for another console or something.

DiemetriX

23-09-2005, 05:36 PM

i like this thread :)
and i also liked the article.. although i dont agree 100%
But i know sony will lose alot of marketshare compared to what it has now.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 05:39 PM

Well I think it's supposed to be one sided Ashley, not in a fanboy way though. It's just pointing out some of Sony's negatives which people don't seem to pick up on (Though some of it's kinda naff)

Choze

23-09-2005, 05:39 PM

Sony invented BluRay technology, so that's one expense they won't need to deal with.

No. Sony did not invent Blu Ray.

From what we are seeing Sony have gained since PS2. PS3 has even more 3rd party support as Xbox 360 takes left over crumbs or shaky time exclusives. Revolution the less said the better. Nice controller though and i reserve judgement till its fully revealed.

On the subject of PSP. Its the first successful handheld since Nintendo went on the market and its selling very well. Pretty good position from zero.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 05:44 PM

It wasn't completely zero though. It has Sony fans that buy it (and from what I've heard quite a few people are buying it for the sake of it or JUST cos it's Sony).
I'm not trying to say it's only got sales from that though, heh, that would be stupid; it's a pretty decent system.

Shmotz

23-09-2005, 05:58 PM

No. Sony did not invent Blu Ray.

The Blu-ray standard was jointly developed by a group of leading consumer electronics and PC companies called the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), led by Sony and Philips

Sony and Philips, disillusioned by the small royalty part of the DVD pie, did not want to miss the boat again, and had already started working on DVD's successor, The Blu-ray disc. The Blu-ray format, originally called DVR, was developed by Sony and Philips engineers beginning in 1995

They were pioneers then at least.

Ashley

23-09-2005, 07:36 PM

Well I think it's supposed to be one sided Ashley, not in a fanboy way though. It's just pointing out some of Sony's negatives which people don't seem to pick up on (Though some of it's kinda naff)

Well I come from the old school type of essays (being educational ones) and I always feel no matter how strong your point you should represent the opposite view to show you have fully explored the idea/theory/whatever.

Smalldude76

23-09-2005, 07:54 PM

Voted 360 because I think it'll sell most, but I think Nintendo will profit from their system the most.

Worse I see happening is PS3 comes out and people rush to buy it and it does well at launch, but then people dont buy many games and such, opting for another console or something.

Kind of defeats the purpose of the PS3 then doesn't it? Unless they've got something more up their sleeves to make us realise why it's so damned expensive.

Well I come from the old school type of essays (being educational ones) and I always feel no matter how strong your point you should represent the opposite view to show you have fully explored the idea/theory/whatever.

Really only needed in argumentative essays or debates though to close off any holes. Damned difficult to go through every single little point and still make it sound good...

dazzybee

23-09-2005, 08:35 PM

I thought that article was bollocks - I could pick it apart piece by piece but that would take too long. PS3 I;m sure will sell very well, but the guy is making up prices left right and centre - he doesnt know how much Sony are losing on the PSP, he doesnt know how much games are going to be, or the console itself. Why does he say stuff like Konami are miving more to NIntendo. Are they? I wish they were but this is simply not true.

Also the PSP is selling very well, okay its not beating the DS, but over time I think it will in the west.

Personally, I'll admit to being a massive Nintendo fan - they are literally the only reason I play games now, and I would like that article to be true; but I'l stick with my first judgement. Bollocks!

The3rdChildren

23-09-2005, 08:43 PM

I'm going to wager Microsoft, because hopefully Sony will lose out when people decide they don't want to work more hours to afford their crappy Playstation 3. Nintendo don't really stand much chance of coming back on top this time, and I predict another memorable generation with little change from them.

Bowser57

23-09-2005, 08:45 PM

I'm going to wager Microsoft, because hopefully Sony will lose out when people decide they don't want to work more hours to afford their crappy Playstation 3.

You're talking rubbish, people would be willing to pay 10 times what it'll cost because they can then use it to make films full of incredible special effects.

Seriously though folks, don't vote for what you really believe will happen, vote for the company you like the most!

... What you already are doing? Then carry on!

dazzybee

23-09-2005, 08:53 PM

Oh yeah, there was a point to this thread. I voted Nintendo cause its the only console I have any interest in, and any company that tries to innovate should be rewarded with a vote on a fanmade Nintendo site!

Do I think they can do it?! Yes, though MS's year headstart will be just crazy to try and beat, though I think the 360's inevitable poor showing in Japan will even things out a tad.

I think 360 will be as successful as the Xbox, I think the PS3 will lose support and Nintendo will gain it. How much.....? We'll see but I expect all three consoles to be very close next time!!

Tyson

23-09-2005, 09:10 PM

Don't let Choze hear you say that. he'll ejaculate his Sony-ridden semen all over you.
Choze doesn't still come here does he?

Oh how I loved his extreme mood swings.

Domstercool

23-09-2005, 10:17 PM

Well since PS3 has 105 games in dev for it, I'd have to say it's getting it's support and RPGs are already hitting the system. So atleast in Japan it will sell. While polls are poo and allm the PS3 is like 70% the most wanted console in Japan at this moment in time.

They might be in money debt, but they are obviously getting money to counter that or the company would not be allowed to carry on such things.

I'll buy a PS3 as soon as a game I want hits the system, which could be something like Devil May Cry 4 ^_^

Kurtle Squad

24-09-2005, 07:47 AM

You're talking rubbish, people would be willing to pay 10 times what it'll cost because they can then use it to make films full of incredible special effects.

Seriously though folks, don't vote for what you really believe will happen, vote for the company you like the most!

... What you already are doing? Then carry on!

Well I voted for who I thought would maybe do best, though I wasn't really sure between Nintendo & Sony. (And though it'll prob be Sony, i voted for Nintendo so it was kinda who i think's best too, heh. My vote was based on if people who buy consoles for the sake of it - which is usually a Playstation of some sort - didn't exist)

Choze doesn't still come here does he?

Oh how I loved his extreme mood swings.

He's already posted on this thread

Do I think they can do it?! Yes, though MS's year headstart will be just crazy to try and beat, though I think the 360's inevitable poor showing in Japan will even things out a tad.

I also thought Microsofts TGS preview was crap, I had watched other 360 vids and they made me think "Wow!", but the TGS one (especially after seeing Nintendo's one) made me think "This isn't really that great"

Oh, and I think that the autor of the article was trying to say that Konami are just more Nintendo friendly lately than they were.

dukkadukka

24-09-2005, 12:44 PM

Hahaha.....Well fanboys should be BANNED!! Hahaha!!

yes...yes they should.

i really don't know who will "win" the upcoming console battle, and to be honest i don't care. as long as rare, sega, squenix and treasure keep making great games i do not give a flying fugg.

the_tornado

24-09-2005, 01:12 PM

oOOoo!!
Look at THIS!! (http://support.invisionfree.com/index.php?showtopic=178291)

So if Nintendo play their cards right and pull out their big guns (and ones from other companies), they will rule if Sony do lose 3rd party support.
And I have noticed that companies (big japanese ones mainly) have been supporting Nintendo more.

If I see that post at that forum, I sure will think that Sony will end up third, Xbox second, and Revolution first, evweryone wants these days gameplay and more realistic games, and that is what you get with nintendo.

Shaze_Nab

24-09-2005, 01:33 PM

I dont care about anyones view on Sony in the games Industry. What concerns me is the 20,000 jobs being lost world wide, because, at the end of the day, we wouldn't be able to afford these consoles without jobs.

RATM_4_EVA

24-09-2005, 05:53 PM

Kurtle Squad

24-09-2005, 05:56 PM

I've heard from somebody today that the other part of Sony (the ungamey bit, TVs etc) has done quite badly recently. I don't know how true it is though.

I also found this: http://www.ps3.net/newsboard/view.php?id=66

Even Sony are saying that the PS3 will be expencive.