Gamecube a Letdown? [Archive]

Domstercool

23-09-2005, 09:48 AM

I think a lot of people went into the Gamecube era and was expecting a replica of the N64 era. If that had happened then we probably would of been a tad screwed. Nintendo needed to rework their 3rd party relationships. The idea of handing out franchises was a nice idea, although some of them backfired (Starfox Assault should of been better).

I think the Cube has had some great games, maybe not as mind breaking as the N64, that's because the N64 was this all new powerful 3D machine.

I mean could you really miss a chance to play Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, Zelda: Wind Waker, Tales of Symphonia, Soul Calibur 2, Eternal Darkness and so on?

1upking

23-09-2005, 10:42 AM

To be honest, I have really enjoyed my gamecube. I have had some great experiences on games like resident evil 4, killer 7 and paper mario. And some amazing multiplayer bashes on Konga and the Mario Party series.

Yes some of those are updates of N64 games but they are all improved and better than previous versions.

Zelda_Rulez

23-09-2005, 11:39 AM

I had more games for my GameCube then for my N64. And I also think there are more great games on GC then on the N64. Games like Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 and Tales of Symphonia and Baten Kaitos and more spring to mind.

Cheapshot

23-09-2005, 11:46 AM

I would say the GameCube has better games than the N64 but it's not the evolution I hoped.

And you can play N64's best games -- OOT & Majoras Mask on a Cube anyway.

Haver

23-09-2005, 11:49 AM

Some games felt unfinished and a little recycled, but Metroid Prime made up for all that.

Hero-of-Time

23-09-2005, 12:28 PM

I think the Gamecube has more variety and indeed more games but they all lacked the " magic " of the N64 era. I dont know whether it is because most of the games, like was said before, were basically graphical updates or if it was because I was younger when playing the N64 games. Either way not one game yet has come close to the excitement of release of Zelda: OOT.
But I have to say that the third-party support is better on the Gamecube than on the N64.

Sooj

23-09-2005, 12:31 PM

I don't think the Gamecube is a letdown. To be fair, it could have had a few more killer titles but on the game side of things we got Resi4, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Katios, Donkey Konga, Monkey Ball, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, Final Fantasy:Crystal Chronicles, Eternal darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, Metriod Prime 1+2, F-Zero GX and many, many more great games.

In my view, the Gamecube has been the ultimate party box. Whenever my friends come up, whenever family come up they always go towards my cube and we all end up playing Donkey Konga and Wario Ware: Mega Party Game$ for hours.

In a business perspective the Gamecube again was great but not a sucess. Sales could have been a lot higher but, saying that, Nintendo has been a lot of money from it. In addition, I believe that through the gamecube Nintendo has made a lot of progress trying to make friends with 3rd party developers such as Namco, Konami, Capcom, Sega etc

So overall, the gamecube was/is no way a letdown. Just a step in the right direction and hopefully the Revolution will take a a few more steps in the same path.

gorrit

23-09-2005, 12:55 PM

Nah, I wouldn't say the 'Cube was a letdown.
I mean:
Killer7
Resident Evil 4
Baten Kaitos
Metroid Prime
Eternal Darkness
Super Monkey Ball
Viewtiful Joe
Pikmin
Donkey Konga
Zelda: Wind Waker
Battalion Wars
F-Zero GX
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Super Mario Sunshine
Soul Calibur 2

All great games, some with even better sequels.
Not to mention upcoming games.

Shmotz

23-09-2005, 01:09 PM

I think it has.

It has some good games, but their key titles such as Mario Sunshine have lakced quality somewhat. And to me, I didn't buy Wind Waker because of the style. I don't care what you are going to say eg 'It has a great story/gameplay' etc because I made my mind up and I don't regret it. An evolution of OOT would have been unbelievable and infinitely more preferable to me than a cel shaded one.

Metroid Prime was the highlight for me, holy crap it was awesome. Well worth the 13+ hours I put in. I liked the original RE remake aswell though I never completed it (and have now got no memory card *sigh*). I would have got SoA for it as I loved the original on the Dreamcast but I never got round to it. I would have probably loved it heh.

Not the worst console ever by far. And am I the only one who thinks that people see the 64 through rose tinted glasses? I mean, it had great games but they took their time didn't they? They were also incredibly expensive. The amount of time between the AAA titles was pretty long. It still set standards though i.e. 'It's a good shooter, but it's not Goldeneye good'.

Tailzo

23-09-2005, 01:18 PM

Gamecube had a few games I wanted to love, that I ended up strongly disliking.

Luigi's Manison - I never liked it. I tried to like it.
Pikmin - I wanted to love it, but the time limit ruined everything.
Metroid Prime - Everyone said it was great, so I bought it, I sold it after a short wile, I just didn't like the gameplay. Sure the graphics were neat, but it wasn't fun for me.
Mario Sunshine - I bought it, hated it, and sold it quickly. By far the worst game I have owned on my Gamecube. Too bad, I guess it was just not my kind of game.

Great games that I loved :
Tales of Symphonia - I loved the style, I loved the world, the storyline was a bit thin, but it was great anyway.
Phantasy Star Online - 4 player splitscreen! That was one of my most played Gamecube games.
Super Monkey Ball 2 - Multiplayer madness! I also loved the 1 player game.
Skies of Arkadia Legends. I used to have it on my Dreamcats, luckly I got to try this version too.
Animal Crossing, funny game, I played it for ages.
Baten Kaitos - Nice RPG.

The rest of my games were neither great, nor bad.

/ nando /

23-09-2005, 01:34 PM

..for me, it hasn't really been a let down.. there's been some fantastic games, and I have quite a big collection (about 50 :indeed: lol) but none of the games have felt as special as when I was playing games on the N64 like Goldeneye or Banjo Kazooie or 1080.. and many more.. whether that's with getting older or because the games on the gamecube arent as good, I'm not sure.. maybe it's because when you were playing the games on the N64 they felt new and fresh, but on the Gamecube they were mostly updates (there's obviously exceptions) ..but maybe this is where the Revolution comes in.. totally different way to play games, could be great :)

trisha

23-09-2005, 02:44 PM

snes was great. n64 was good but flawed. gamecube, just didnt have anything i wanted to tell people about.

Retro_Link

23-09-2005, 03:47 PM

The N64 is held so highly because it brought Nintendo games into 3D and it was the first time we were all experiencing that and such games;

The Cube however has had some FANTASTIC games that i would never had wanted to miss out on; SSBM, Zelda WW, Zelda TTP, Resi 4, Metroid Prime etc...

IMO the Cube has been the best console for games this generation; so if anyone says that the Cube has been a letdown, then....

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 03:56 PM

Well I've got A LOT of use out of my Gamecube, I love it. I just think Nintendo need a few more FPSs & more marketing skills

|Laguna|

23-09-2005, 04:04 PM

Gamecube had a few games I wanted to love, that I ended up strongly disliking.

Pikmin - I wanted to love it, but the time limit ruined everything.

Get Pikmin 2. I felt the same about Pikmin and did sell it back but after reading reviews of Pikmin 2 and finding that the time limit had been removed you're free to do what you want. It is truely a fantastic gem :)

Shmotz

23-09-2005, 04:21 PM

IMO the Cube has been the best console for games this generation; so if anyone says that the Cube has been a letdown, then....

Then nothing.

The great thing is that you said 'IMO'. As in, I could say 'IMO the Xbox has been the best for games' and that wouldn't make me wrong.

Retro_Link

23-09-2005, 06:21 PM

Then nothing.

The great thing is that you said 'IMO'. As in, I could say 'IMO the Xbox has been the best for games' and that wouldn't make me wrong.
Exactly; i was saying that i think the GC has been the best for games, but then it does have all the type/range of games that i like to play;

Just like people here are saying they think the GC's failed; i'm just stating my opinion.

I would agree with you that the Xbox has also been great, it's just it didn't have enough games that interested me for a purchase (though i thought about it).
I think whilst the GC has excelled in games with fantastic gameplay, the Xbox's biggest success has easily been in its online capabilities and bringing online gaming to a much bigger audience; and for that i applaud it!

Wesley

23-09-2005, 06:33 PM

I think the Gamecube was a bit of a let down in these last two years for me.

But that is only because in the last two years gaming in general has been a let down.

Kurtle Squad

23-09-2005, 06:34 PM

I would agree with you that the Xbox has also been great, it's just it didn't have enough games that interested me for a purchase (though i thought about it)

I also think the same. It had nothing that appealed to me really (appart from Conker, which rules by the way)

I think even my bro isn't bothering with next gen. He got an XBox, but it hasn't got that much use because the games just don't stand out enough n things. We've played the GC WAY more and since I'm probably getting a Rev (We'll wait & see if i really is great) he'll focus on getting a DS & PC games.

GoonFace

23-09-2005, 06:46 PM

Yes and no. Whilst there have been many brilliant games such as Viewtiful Joe, Wind Waker, MP, MP2, Resi 4, Mario Kart, Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Brothers and the list pretty much goes on. However, I feel that Nintendo has failed to establish good relations with third parties. I mean, no Pro Evo, MGS or GTA.... Hopefully this will be fixed on the Revolution.

Stocka

23-09-2005, 08:13 PM

In terms of success, yes.
In terms of games, no in my opinion.

Fierce_LiNk

23-09-2005, 08:51 PM

The cube has definitely not been a let down for me. It's treated me to some classic games moments, and has even opened my eyes to new styles and ideas. If it wasn't for the gamecube, i doubt i would have gone back and played my snes, nes or other retro consoles, nintendo or not.

I've loved the games, and the multiplayer moments have been off the scale. :)

Triple_C

23-09-2005, 08:59 PM

O.k, I no im gonna get abused for this thread, but do anyone else here think the Cube has a been a big letdown? compared to the N64? N64 had so many good games, Mario Kart, Zelda OOT and Majoras Mask, Lylat Wars, Donkey Kong, 007, The could go on, but on the Cube, we aint has half as many good games, and also games like Star fox Assualt have been a letdown?, hope the Revoltion brings alot more good games to the Table.
Ofcourse not, this console has brought me hours of fun with Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros. (especially great) animal crossing, wind waker (and the bonus disc that came with it) and Sonic adventure 2 battle.

Retro_Link

23-09-2005, 10:03 PM

Enigma

23-09-2005, 10:11 PM

The Cube is absolutely NO letdown, on the contrary. The Cube has brought me countless playhours with games like:

Baten Kaitos
Eternal Darkness
Evolution Worlds
F-Zero GX
Gotcha Force
Mario Kart DD
Megaman Network Transmission
Megaman X Command Mission
Metroid Prime 1 & 2
Mystic Heroes
Resident Evil Remake, Zero & 4
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Sonic Heroes
& Zelda WW

I do agree that Starfox Assault was a bit of a letdown (too much run-around) although it offers some fun. But the three titles that I´ve found to be THE greatest among all others, which offers the ONE key-thing that makes a video game great, Playbility is: SSBM, Gotcha Force & Mystic Heroes.
WHHAAAATT!!!!?? You say? Gotcha Force & Mystic Heroes?? You say?
But honestly, these three titles DO have the most important thing a game can have: Playbility. For I have experienced countless (note:COUNTLESS) hours with these three games. Because, let´s face it, if a game does not have any playbility, and becomes boring after first or second playthrough, it isn´t much even if it has killer graphics, monster sound & has been hyped through media and such. At least that´s my opinion.

Mr. Bananagrabber

23-09-2005, 10:33 PM

It's been really, really good. But not as good as the 64.

Platty

23-09-2005, 11:35 PM

i dont think its been a letdown, infact its the console i have bought the most games for (maybe cos i have job and that = money) but i loved it, so many good games but you are right the N64 was an awesome experience of multiplayer fun. I dont think ill ever have that again with another console especially now everything seems to be heading to online play which im not a massive fan of.

ThePigMarcher

24-09-2005, 12:22 AM

I also don't believe the Gamecube has been a let down. In the latter days of the N64 I was getting disheartened with Nintendo and went down the Playstation route.

This naturally lead to the PS2 , although I did get a Cube on launch , which was followed by an XBox. After concentrating on my PS2 and XBox I was getting very dissatisfied with the gaming industry and was left wanting in the gameplay department (gaming seemed to become a chore and was no longer fun). It was then I returned to my Cube and got some of the titles I had missed while the Cube was packed away , and there it was , all the gaming I needed. So many good games (already previously mentioned by others) , and all at once gaming seemed fun again.

I am not slagging the XBox or PS2 , because I know others appreciate them , it's just that they are not for me. Instead I now have two Cubes (one upstairs , one down) , just in case one of them every breaks down on me.

So in all , the Cube was certainly not a failure for me , it got me back to gaming and also started a certain degree of Nintendo fanboyism.

MidnightSun

24-09-2005, 04:45 AM

In my opinion the N64 produced more "classic" games, but Gamecube has a better selection. There aren't many "classic" games on Gamecube, but there are soo many good ones, more than the N64 had IMO.

Hero-of-Time

24-09-2005, 07:47 AM

I think Stocka summed it up perfectly.

In terms of success, yes. In terms of games, No.

Also MidnightSun just confirmed what i already thought.

N64 produced more "classic" games, but Gamecube has a better selection

Both machines have their strengths and weaknesses but like I said in my earlier post the Cube, in my eyes, is anything but a failure.

Mike

24-09-2005, 07:56 AM

When I had an N64 there were usually only two or three games a year I wanted to buy for it, but it's been loads more for the GameCube. My GC games collection must be about five times as big as my N64 one, so no way has it been a let down for me. Sure, the best games on the N64 aren't as good as the best GameCube games, but that doesn't make the GameCube's wide selection of A-grade games a letdown.

Kurtle Squad

24-09-2005, 08:01 AM

I agree with Goonface...The Rev NEEDS MGS!! It's so good. GC got the remake...but that was it :wtf:
The main 3rd party other than EA for Nintendo was Capcom. Let's hope Konami and other companies get more on board this time.

As i said before, I don't think it was a let down and has been my best gaming experience since the MegaDrive (I went Megadrive>PlayStation>Gamecube) though I think those memories of Sega's Gem are partly due to them simply being cherished memories :happy:

I also think that a big part of getting the most out of your Cube is having mates to play with, with quite a few multiplayer games. (Though the 1P ones give you greatness too, such as MP1+2, LOZ:WW etc)

Jim

24-09-2005, 08:07 AM

SSB: Melee and Super Monkey Ball are titles I will never stop loving :)

Kurtle Squad

24-09-2005, 08:11 AM

Yeah. Me and my mates have been going back to Monkey Ball a lot lately. I still need to get the 2nd one :bah:

gorrit

24-09-2005, 10:07 AM

Because, let´s face it, if a game does not have any playbility, and becomes boring after first or second playthrough, it isn´t much even if it has killer graphics, monster sound & has been hyped through media and such. At least that´s my opinion.

(Warning, half OT)

Well, then let me very much disagree with you :)
If you mean that a game is only great if you can (re)play it loads loads that is.
I think Eternal Darkness was magical playing through the first time(granted, I've played it through 3 times, but still, it was the first time that was magical) and that experience was much more "fun" then playing almost any multiplayer game.
I rather have magical games that are short, then halfdecent ones that are long and have replayability.

Enigma

24-09-2005, 10:13 AM

(Warning, half OT)

Well, then let me very much disagree with you :)
If you mean that a game is only great if you can (re)play it loads loads that is.
I think Eternal Darkness was magical playing through the first time(granted, I've played it through 3 times, but still, it was the first time that was magical) and that experience was much more "fun" then playing almost any multiplayer game.
I rather have magical games that are short, then halfdecent ones that are long and have replayability.

Well, we are all different I guess. But hey, that´s what makes us special right? :grin:

ViPeR

24-09-2005, 10:20 AM

It seems many people were expecting too much from the GC. True, it failed in some aspects (online) but I think the quality of the games remained the same and there are probably more.

Ford Prefect

24-09-2005, 10:34 AM

if eternal darkness was the only game for the cube ever, it still wouldnt be a let down for me. its a good system with good games. if you want let down, look at something else........

Josh64

24-09-2005, 10:43 AM

The gamecube has by no way been a let down for me, It has been one of my favorite consoles, I loved wind waker, I thought it was amazing, I also loved sunshine although it wasnt quite as good as mario 64, i thought double dash was exellent, donkeykonga was really great party game, and super monkey ball, viewtiful joe and wario ware were great new franchice! I love my cube, Its one of my favorite consoles ever! along with my n64.

Tyson

24-09-2005, 10:49 AM

I would say it was on a par with the Dreamcast, meaning it was awesome as hay. If it got more support maybe it would have had more big games made, but it was definately no let down.

kav82

24-09-2005, 10:54 AM

let down?! are ya mad?!

stev2604

24-09-2005, 08:24 PM

In some ways, it was a bit of a let down. But were only saying that now when not many games are being released on it. I bet if this was asked right after the wind waker or any other great title was released, we'd have laughed at the thought. So in many other ways, it was actually great! :)

Kurtle Squad

24-09-2005, 08:30 PM

I think the only way it is a let down is the fact that it is overlooked by many of the narrowminded!!

dukkadukka

24-09-2005, 09:05 PM

gc has been a MASSIVE waste of money for me. pikmin 1 & 2 are legendary though, gotta love teh olimar!

demonmike04

24-09-2005, 10:17 PM

I wasnt dissapointed with the gamecube, it was a good system.
The downsides:
After a while, most developers lost interest, so big games on other systems didnt make it to gamecube.
Lack of advertising campaigns! Sure, ive seen a few, but thats all. Nintendo could of saved there asses from being worst selling console by giving it a little bit of encouragement. Same for the DS..

The3rdChildren

24-09-2005, 10:32 PM

It isn't a letdown depending on what you expected from it. We've gotten pretty much all the games we could want from Nintendo, despite some having a distinctive lack of polish.

Zakatu

24-09-2005, 10:44 PM

With the gamecube i was expecting nintendo to go into online gaming and also for them to offer more western style games, i.e fps and racers.

In that sense the gamecube has been a huge letdown for me and also with regard to market share this generation has not been good for nintendo. They are now definitely third place, so i really don't think the gamecube can be labelled a success even if nintendo made money from it.

Positive point; much less time between games than in the n64 days. though not as many good, regular releases as the xbox, at least recently.

The gamecube has also been a haven for "quirky" titles, i'm thinking of games like donkey konga, pikmin, warioware,viewtifull joe, and some others. Which is something nintendo have provided well for.

Getting resi 4 exclusive for such long a period was a big coup for nintendo and i'm impressed. its also a great game, just a shame they couldn't keep the franchise exclusive.

The "standard" nintendo games have been a mixed bag, mario sunshine did not live up to mario 64 at all, far too short. F-zero i think diddn't break enough new ground as diddn't mario kart.

The Wind Waker i think was about as good as majora's mask, not as good as OOT but a good solid zelda game with a nice graphical style, but badly rushed at the end.

Metroid wasn't really my sort of game but i think it was a very good game. an example of a game that wasn't rushed! (or at least did not suffer)

Nintendo need FAR, FAR beter third party support next gen, or at least not get inferior versions of games, but their support has been generally better than the n64 and i think on the whole things have improved for nintendo fans.

dazzybee

24-09-2005, 10:59 PM

The Gamecube was awesome, the only thing that didnt make it as fun as the N64 was that I was at college then and ill my gaming mates were still around so we used to have multiplayer sesh's ALL the time (which is when gaming is at its greatest), weve all moved away now so those moments are rare!!

However, I have more games than any other games system Ive ever had (which is a lot, except the SPectrum actually - had hundreds for that :)

Although the N64 WAS incredible, people do remember it fondly, I would say for every great N64 game there are probably 2 for the cube, all the games people have mentioned (though I would add Winning Eleven and Waverace into the equation) its been immense - I'm still playing through games that came out ages ago - Second Sight, Prince of Persia 1!!

Compare game franchises

Mario N64 wins
Zelda Tie (though Cube may still win this)
Mario Kart Cube
1080 Tie
Lylat Wars N64
FZero Cube
Smash Bros Cube
Waverace Cube
Mario Party Cube
Golf Cube
Tennis N64

Theres just a few, but Cube IMO is winning, then compare the others - N64 had GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Pilotwings, Blast Corps etc Cube has Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Second Sight, Persia, Mario Football, Batallion Wars.

I mean, I could really do a big comparison, doing this I'm even more convinced the Cube is anything BUT a disappointment!

xino

25-09-2005, 03:19 AM

GameCube is a waste:D

Yes Gamecube is a BIG Letdown

First, the console was small, great controller and small disc, all that was good, which makes the console COol

Second the cosole was aimed at children and family gamers, instead of adult and teenagers. Nintendo beleives by aiming games at kids, they will make a better money, because when kids see things on tv they say i want this i want that

There was some great titles but other titles that keep coming out for Gamecube was lame, titles like Pikmin, Wario ware, Animal Farm. Gamecube also featured online support, but it was, but after Sony when online with there own console, all games that featured online for gamecube stop! which makes buying an adaptor is a ripp off.

I was looking for FPS games, which i totally found, games like Pikmin, Animal Farm, Mario ect. I was so totally p@ssed off, i counldn't even find games like Area 51, Mortal Kombat: Shaloin ..., all great titles that suppose to be on an't even on the console.

Nintendo stoped making great titles for the Gamecube, people say GC is good, by giving same proof (Resident Evil 4), that game was suppose to be release early, but was delayed twice, if Nintendo focused on Gamecube this console would have been better

dazzybee

25-09-2005, 11:57 AM

Xino, dont be such a cock!! Why did Nintendo market it for kids? You're clrearly a sony fanboy who doesnt really know what games are on the cube. Who cares that Res Evil 4 was delayed twice? Please leave!

Alterego

25-09-2005, 10:23 PM

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xino

28-09-2005, 01:40 PM

OK you kids wanna play with me
BE MY GUEST!

first of all, this topic says "Gamecube a Letdown?"
which means you say your opionion about its let down

Second,YES! Nintendo did market it for kids, WHY DA HELL IS MARIO THE TRADEMARK?
why is there bugs bunny games, megaman, pikmin, donky konga ect kids games
so you are trying to tell me, a hardcore gamer that play games like Unreal series, doom3 and telling me those hardcore gamers will be playing Animal farm and HARVEST MOON
you got to be joking

Third, gamecube isn't a letdown?
then why is there 3 pages of peoples post about the let down

Fifth, every forum has 60% kids, 5% morons and idiots
you my friends seem to be one of em

dazzybee

28-09-2005, 07:49 PM

Xino - I think speak for everyone. FUCK OFF!!
I don't want to reply, but my anger is rising by the second. HARDCORE gamers play anything that is good - most of the games you list above. It is the sheep, the masses who play fucking wank 'adult' games, just to be 'cool', a hardcore gamer won't care about image or whether something is deemed 'kiddy' by small-mind ignaramus' like yourself, the same way a hardcore film fan would watch Disney films!!

NOW FUCK OFF!!!

Kurtle Squad

28-09-2005, 08:31 PM

dazzybee is right!! Hardcore gamers play games in a WIDE RANGE that are good. And anyway, I'd like to see a lil kid complete Pikmin (which isn't kiddy at all) F-Zero or Viewtiful Joe, or even get all the Shines on Mario Sunshine.

And by the way Xino, MORTAL kOMBAT IS SHIT compared to the likes of Naruto, SSBM & Soul Calibur II anyway!!

Blah blah etctec, go fuck your PS2 in it's TWO controller ports (so what was a rip off there? and also very old fasioned, even the N64 had 4)
AND...I think if there was A bugs bunny game on the Cube that it's definatly ALSO for the PS2!!

xino

29-09-2005, 04:13 PM

ok... lets start with the boyding:D

FIRST...i should f@k off, if i use that language on you kids, the mod/ admin will send me a dumb pm about me using it

SECOND... your anger is rising... wow boy, i didn't know you worship Nintendo, don't worry i won't diss your god again

THIRD...yes you are right hardcore gamers play any games, but not kids games

now for you Kurt Johnson:D
FOURTH... so you are telling me, if a kid completes Pikmin, he isn't a kid anymore, but if he doesn't his a kid ... WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF THAT PEOPLE? if i don't complete Chu Chu Rocket i am a kid but if i complete it, I AM AN ADULT i am no more a kid

FIFTH... Mortal Kombat is sh@t, oh i see, if it is, why his da game on ps2 and xbox and its making sale now, if its sh@t how come its isn't on Gamecube? Naruto, Soul Calibur.. ROFL
you are a waste, you an't even a hardcore gamer your self, just buy crappy games Nintendo buy for you AKA NINTENDO RIPP OFFS
Tekken series is way better than Soul Calibur 2 ( but SC 2 is better becuase of its unlocks)
Virtua Fighter series is better than Soul Calibure 2
and the best 3d fighting game is Dead Or Alive, it doesn't need to be the best because it is!
and by the way Tekken 3 can still stand a chance against Soul Calibur 2
SSBM that game doesn't even stand a chance against Tekken 1, ( even with crappy graphis and details) why? CUZ THAT GAME IS RETARDED, it is meant for kids
cuz every where i go, kids say that game is the best, which other hardcore games say RE4 and Metroid series are

SIXTH... yes there is a bugs bunny on ps2, BUT THE WORST OF ALL, there is a girls games on Cube ROFL, the name is Sweenties 2 i think, saw the game on my fav gameshop, there are many bugs bunny games on cube, even Donald Duck
wat da hell? Animancias?

SEVETH... PWNED/ OWNED/ BOYED evey word you got it, i boyd you hard, both of you

and final thoughs, YES I AM 60% NINTENDO LET ME DOWN, REAL HARD
it will have let me down 905 but sinc other third partys are giving games on the Cube its surviving, games like Path Of Neo, Spartan, and thanks to SEGA for my sweet Shadow The Hedgehog:D

Enigma

29-09-2005, 06:33 PM

Xino, by going on like this you´re only proving to everybody that YOU´RE a kid.

xino

29-09-2005, 06:48 PM

going on like how
first of all
this topic says
"Gamecube a Letdown"
other people posted their opionions, i did mine has well
now bunch of kids come in, posting about my opionion, WHAT DA HELL IS THAT?
now i owned/boyed them, and you are telling me i am the kid

i am starting to think you are on their side, be my guest if you wanna have a go at me too , do it!
you dont want to end up like those 2 fools

gaggle64

29-09-2005, 06:50 PM

Err, yeah Ok. Going ALLLLLLLLLLLL the way back to the original topic, I seriously can't believe that people consider the choice of Gamecube games to be a dissapointment compared to the N64. Sure it had Mario64 and OOT as well as the RARE games, but not a huge number of great games. Also, game releases of anykind were few and far between and typically quite expensive. Once people put on those rose-tinted spectacles, you'd think the N64 was made of solid gold and had rainbows bursting out of every cart. But it didn't. It's games took ages to make, had very little third-party support and lost Nintendo it's dominance over the market The Gamecube though has had more then it's fair share of great titles - everything from Mario Sunshine, Zelda and F-zero to Resident Evil 4 and Harvest Moon, along with enough third-party support to keep it ticking over. I don't care what anyone says, N64 was good, but Gamecube was a definite improvement.

PS. This is a video games discusssion forum. Stop trying to "own" each other. To officially own someone you have to be in hand-to-hand combat, or at least playing Counter Strike/Chess against each other. So hush yourselves.

Enigma

29-09-2005, 06:52 PM

xino

29-09-2005, 07:09 PM

oH I SEE
MY ATTITUDE
my attitude in wat
look at your children using bad langauge at me
even if they use it i don't mind, but them not puting ... or ** sign on it
hey are you here to troll, spam or post about GAMECUBE LET DOWN

gaggle64

29-09-2005, 10:42 PM

God, I love normal, civilised discussion, don't you?

xino

30-09-2005, 01:01 AM

yes
yes i do actually
now who els wants to post about their thoughs on Gamecube a Letdown
i already did mines

OVERLORD

30-09-2005, 10:05 AM

No wonder GC is where it is today! :(

Discussion and debating ones opinion is one thing but chastisement or name calling is petulant to say the least.

Please keep the personal attacks for another site! Especially as this is primarily a Nintendo fan site. Anyone would think some here aren't true Nintendo fans :hmm:

This sort of thing is becoming typical within Gamecube forums everywhere I seem to visit these days! :sad:

Some visiting this thread would think most hardcore Nintendo fans are Nintendo's worst enemy not the other consoles or the poor 3rd party ports to the GC we have had to endure in it's lifespan.

All above are personal accounts with little or no facts to back them up. Most are subjective insights based on too much of past Nintendo glory!

I have 75+ games and there are still games out there for me to collect like some of those mentioned in this topic and games still yet to be released.

I have games based in most genres not just a select few. Although I haven't invested much in RPG type games. Not a great fan of this unfortunately. No doubt I am missing out on some corkers there.

Gamecube isn't a letdown for me personally and yes I also bought it for my kids. So what!

This is why.

Most muliplatform games are best served on PC platform. They generally come out 1st on PC and games are usually way cheaper! You can also find some good mods to extend the life of some of these as well. PC also serves my Multiplayer needs well. I'm not tied to an expensive tarrif solely for gaming!

I bought my GC for Nintendo games not PS2, XBOX or PC type games. That's the difference! It's not about how many game titles are available it's about the quality of the games out there.

I'm still having fun with some of the games I initially bought with my GC over 2 years ago. Some people I know have bought all 3 consoles. One guy in particular even bought PSP as apposed to DS!

He even bought GC just for RE4 because @ time Capcom said it wouldn't be releasing it on any other platform! He buys only a select few titles and only buys another title once he's finished it :hmm:

Some of these games within weeks of buying he sells barely having touched it because it wasn't the experience he looked for in a game :shock:

No wonder out of the 3 Nintendo do best with the little resources they have. The other 2 companies don't make enough games to subsidise the huge hardware development cost!

Selling a console is one thing feeding it is quite another. Many people eat the Sony/MS McDonald meals with little disregard for the quality of the produce.

Whilst I have dined their many times myself. I know I'll get a better experience eating @ a Nintendo restaurant! :D

Maxi678

30-09-2005, 10:16 AM

Compared to the N64, the GC was better in some ways than others.

Good ways

The GC provided me with classic gaming from games like The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Brothers: Melee and Soul Calibur II.

The GC allowed me to link my GBA to the GC with the GC-GBA cable, making games like Sonic Adventure 1 + 2, Wind Waker and Four Swords Adventures more playable.

With the good things, come some bad points. These include

Lack of decent third party FPS games. Timesplitters is a good FPS.
Lack of third party support from companies. I was hoping for Burnout 3 to come out for the GC, but it has not.

The GC has been a good console, and heres hoping that the Revolution, or whatever it is gonna be called will be a better success

xino

30-09-2005, 01:52 PM

If Nintendo focused on Gamecube, and payed the third parties to make some games on the Gamecube, then it won't be a let down
Nintendo always jump into the next step,
its like.. They made a console, it took long, they finally did it, they celebrate
now they forget about the games to make it work, but move on to the next console

here is a backup
Nintendo made Gamecube, put some games on it, forgot about it and started to work on the DS, that is why there isn't that much hardcore games
Nintendo finished building the DS, celebrated, and started to work on teh Revolution without that much money. but forgot the DS need games to make more money
for example, why is Mr Driller and Tetris doing there?

now i am thinking, Nintendo will finish making the Revolution, they will forget about the games still and work on the internet/wifi and gadgets/features for the console
becuase right now some crappy games are coming out on the revolution
the only good one coming out for me
Metroid Prime 3, Codemend, Darkness
others will be Super Smash Revolution, Mario series and Mario 120 wat ever that name is, and Animal Farm revo

kav82

30-09-2005, 02:45 PM

Enigma

30-09-2005, 02:56 PM

xino

30-09-2005, 03:44 PM

Kav 82 please stop trolling
actually i though you some lesson at the revo board, and you don't have to be carrying it around like a mad boy
its like this... I HAVE JUST EATEN A PIZZA AT PIZZA HUT!

Casual gamer, i am sorry, you must have mistaken the games i play:D
i don't play kids games like, pikmin, animal farm, super smash brothers, harvest moon, kirby, bugs bunny, animanicas all those kiddy games on Cube

Just because i am boyding/ owning Nintendo:D

and by the way kav82, you shouldn't really understimate your enemies/opponent
ok! ;)

Kurtle Squad

30-09-2005, 06:56 PM

Having just schooled xino in the rev boards and looking at all of his posts, only one thing springs to mind:

CASUAL GAMER

yes he has opinions, but they're usually ill-known opinions! he doesn't know much about anything he comments on! he should think before posting really and give sound arguements to back up his views, otherwise his points just don't hold any water!!!

Yes. They are opinions with no thought and no point. Yes we show our opinions, but what you're saying is bullshit.

And plus, we don't WORSHIP Nintendo, obviously you're just a Sony fanboy or something without an open mind and is sad enough to come on here and slag of Nintendo.
I believe that YOU are the kiddy one and very very SAD, maybe you should get a life.

xino

30-09-2005, 07:02 PM

and what life is that
i am happy i got one.. unlike you nintendo freaks that don't know anything about hardcore games
i have been watching all post
when kids try to diss me, they come up with, i am a ps2, sony fan boy, well i am not, it seems that Sony must be better:p

Kurtle Squad

30-09-2005, 08:51 PM

What are you on about!?
Hardcore games!?
Kids?!
Nintendo freaks with no life!?

1) I have a life. It's a crap 1, but I've still got the will to live at the mo.
2) I don't think we appreciate being called kids...how old are you!?
3)What Hardcore games are you talking about or whatever!?
4) Why do your posts make so little sence and contain so little logic!?

xino

30-09-2005, 08:56 PM

shut up and stop trolling
so many spammers
STICK TO THE TOPIC

Smalldude76

30-09-2005, 09:04 PM

shut up and stop trolling
so many spammers
STICK TO THE TOPIC

Er...You're not a mod/admin and are doing most of the "trolling"?

I don't think Gamecube was a letdown for me as all I had previously owned was N64 with a few titles. The gamecube offered sequels to titles I loved and better (in my opinion) titles like Mario Kart and Mario Golf. For people who liked the older ones better and wanted something new, I can see why they'd consider the cube a letdown, however for deprived gamers like myself it's a breath of fresh air. And it has Baten Kaitos :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

Retro_Link

30-09-2005, 09:10 PM

don't know anything about hardcore games
What do you class as a hardcore game?

c0Zm1c

30-09-2005, 09:51 PM

What do you class as a hardcore game?
The term is often used to describe a game that demands a great amount of skill/patience from the player. Games like F-Zero GX, Viewtiful Joe, and Ikaruga fit into this category. :heh:

So, if substantial challenge is the description of hardcore, then (to my knowledge) there's only a handful of hardcore games on each platform. Good thing too, as I'm far from 'hardcore'. :red: ...unlike whoever it is playing here (http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=ikaruga&time=0&page=1&docid=-163280885783523408&urlcreated=1126668468&chan=Uploaded&prog=Ikaruga&date=Mon+Apr+18+2005+at+3%3A06+AM+PDT#)! :eek:

Retro_Link

30-09-2005, 11:41 PM

The term is often used to describe a game that demands a great amount of skill/patience from the player. Games like F-Zero GX, Viewtiful Joe, and Ikaruga fit into this category. :heh:
That wasn't my point; I was trying to find out what 'xino' classed as hardcore games!??

I know what i class them to be (pretty much what you said; a game that requires a great ammount of skill and dedication) and therefore IMO I think (as you do) the GC has plenty of hardcore games (if not the most?);

But xino said that Nintendo and its fans know nothing about them, so i just wondered what he'd class them as?!

c0Zm1c

01-10-2005, 12:06 AM

I was trying to find out what 'xino' classed as hardcore games!??
Well, going by what he said when he first mentioned the word 'hardcore'...
so you are trying to tell me, a hardcore gamer that play games like Unreal series, doom3 and telling me those hardcore gamers will be playing Animal farm and HARVEST MOON
you got to be joking
I'm not sure about Unreal (Tournament) as I only play those games online where the difficulty is defined by the other players I'm fighting.

However, Doom³ certainly isn't what I would call hardcore. Nightmare mode is just that, but the three difficulty settings below that aren't what you would call a serious challenge. I love Doom³, but Metroid Prime (for example) beats it for challenge.

Oh and by the way (xino), I also play Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon. So it's true that gamers who play Unreal and Doom³ also play Nintendo games. :heh: