Stand is the power supply?

[Smowza]

just got the new nom and on page 76 they have a picture of a white rev above it's docking stand and they clearly state that the stand acts as a power supply. Not sure if this was confirmed before but i didnt know till now (although i did suspect)

[Jay]

It would make sense and it does sound familiar - It makes the console smaller and allows it to stand up straight, and if you want to have it flat down then you probably won't be able to see it (A bit like the N64 one that plugged in). I hope they improve the stand a bit though, I think its quite ugly though the size of it would be explained if it has the power pack inside - I suppose its no uglier than having a big black thing midway down your plug socket :)

[Hellfire]

I always thought that, it makes sense.

[The Peeps]

Didn't Nintendo say that you wouldn't need to stand the Rev up though so you wouldn't need the stand... Maybe that's changed then.

http://psychocorp.net/noticias/fotos/NintendoRevolution_front3.jpg
no stand...

[DiemetriX]

Hmm.. Thats news to me. Not sure if I like that...

[penic99]

I read that too, and thought that it was odd. That implies a dock, and that implies portability. :confused:

[The Peeps]

Yeah, I'd prefer to have the choice between standing the Revo up and having it flat.. I'd rather have it flat down even though standing it would take up less room, but if it turns out that the stand is needed then it could be worse really.

edit - replying to the post below here rather than posting yet again :P I'm quite bored so I'm just on here 24hrs a day hehe:

The Revo we've seen so far isn't the final version as Nintendo have said, so they could very easily change it so the stand can be a power supply. Though, the more I think about it, the less likely I think it will be.

[Nintendork]

The system can be displayed horizontally or vertically with or without the stand, there are no ports of electronics in the stand, it's merely plastic.

The powersupply is a standard power supply you've probably seen on your PSone/two.

Figure of 8 design, it will be a cable plugged into that so it can be moved around without the need for the stand.

http://oami.eu.int/bulletin/rcd/2006/2006_012/000431309_0006/images/000431309_0006_1_source.jpg patent.

Apology if I've misunderstood you.. but I'm not sure what this magazine is on about.

[DiemetriX]

I read that too, and thought that it was odd. That implies a dock, and that implies portability. :confused:

Maybe you could charge the Revolution and play without powersource.. that would be.. em.. cool?

[Smowza]

Well i'm just going by what the mag says.. and it is an officail mag so i presume they know more than us?

[ShadowV7]

Well i'm just going by what the mag says.. and it is an officail mag so i presume they know more than us?
nah we know more, i want to put my rev horizontally though and they said you could

[Nintendork]

Because the stand is just decorative..?

I think this magazine needs to proof read.
It is bad design, the Revolution is already very portable.. Miyamoto had it in his jacket pocket at TGS.

Taking a bloody stand if anything makes it less portable.

Why would it have rubber feet if it wasn't intended to be used without the stand as well?

[AshMat]

Yeah, in those patent images it shows the back of the rev with a power adapter socket. Not on the dock.

[DiemetriX]

scans:
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/New_ways_to_play_7.jpg
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/New_ways_to_play_8.jpg

[Jordan]

My god, that huge image of the white Revolution is so hot.

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

I dont want a portable Revolution... the battery would get in the way of other technological treats.

[Smowza]

the huge image of the rev is cg isn't it, or am i being a dumbass?

[DCK]

It looks freakin cool no matter if it's CGI :cool:

[Nintendork]

Everyone slips up from time to time, but if you see in the photo the only connection could be on the 45 degree bit in the corner.

From a design point of view it would be awkward to engineer a power supply at that angle, and inefficient use of space.

The systems cords will all come out at 90 degrees i think. The stand is just plastic.

What it is though is a very very nice piece of plastic.. and will hopefully mean people will customise it just like 360 faceplates.

I'll be spray painting mine up.

[system_error]

Well right now the Revolution is a empty plastic case. Nothing more than a concept study of what is later called the Nintendo Revolution. I guess it could really be a power supply. It could also be a battery or just a stand.

[DCK]

Maybe you can connect the supply to the stand AND the Revolution so they can both pass through the power.

Wait, that doesn't make sense at all.

Maybe you can put the Rev horizontally and use the docking station as the power supply (and put it with the rest of the wires)?

[Nintendork]

I think the stand is a transformer.

[system_error]

I think the stand is a transformer.

Like Optimus Prime :D

[djamb3]

In recent pics we all saw the power suply entry in Rev case, so I was wondering if thah base would work like an UPS to prevent losing saves or something like this. (I hate when the lights goes off and I lose all my current position in a game - imagine 4hours in zelda wasted like that to have an idea...)

[darkjak]

Maybe it's a portable batterypack?
So u can play it on the go!

[Nintendork]

That is ridiculous. it would canibalise the DS and Nintendo would have a watered down saturated market and it would definitely be the end of them.

[DCK]

Maybe it's a portable batterypack?

Then it wouldn't be included for free. The Rev's not portable at all anyway.

I think NOM might've gotten it wrong or Nintendo are changing the design (so the drawings from the patent aren't final).

[Nintendork]

I'm amazed how many people believe it, if you look at the console with and without the stand you'll see that in places it is wafer thin sheets of plastic to make it cheaper (less plastic less cost) if it were some sort of brick it would probably not be such an obstructive shape.

Battery packs and DC/AC converters are not made out of putty.. You can't just mould it into any shape you want.

http://www.mundodescargas.com/servicios/juegos/especial_nintendo_revolution/imegenes_web/revo_imagen2.jpg

LOOK. The back of the stand is virtually wafer thin. There is no connection, there is no way for energy to flow under here safely. It would never pass health and safety regulations, it would be completely innefficient use of space.

The console is small enough as it is, if they wanted a freaking battery they could put 10 in it. It would still be half the size of the xbox 360 and PS3.

THE ARGUMENT HAS NO LOGIC TO IT.

I am completely 100% going to stand by my word that this stand is made of a plastic polymer, and nothing else (except perhaps some rubber grip feet and a sticker on the bottom)

THINK about it, on a wider scale.. Think how a battery is DC but the console patent clearly details an AC connection, Think Nintendo wants it to be cheap, Think Nintendo wants it to be small, Think that for convenient gameplay it would sit by a television.. Think it needs to be simple for your average consumer to set up (this is starting to sound more complicated than installing linux). For God's sake think.

Yes Nintendo have something up their sleeve but this is just ludicrous.

The project 3D idea.. i'm still staying quiet about that. it could have a home on the revolution..

[DCK]

Yeah it's unlikely that anything is hidden in the stand. A battery is just ridicilous.

What's wrong with installing Linux btw :wink: ?

[Social]

linux sucks but euh, on the power stand thing. Maybe the secret is under our nose afterall

[system_error]

Linux does not suck it just takes more time to understand. I brought that battery thing up and to be honest I don't believe it myself. I guess the stand mighth be some sort of shell to put the power supply in it so that you can save space.

[DCK]

Yeah, that'd be a stylish and practical idea but even then they would put a heat source under the Revolution. It's probably just a piece of plastic.

About Linux: I've got to admit it's been designed more as a workstation than a personal computer (which gets annoying at times), but it has lots of pros. I prefer using it over Windows.

[Stefkov]

it does go quite thick and bulky at the front... there could well be a battery there. but why. its a home console. it probably would be good playing it in the car, but then how do you play withthe conrtoller in a car?. maybe take it to a caravan or something, therell still be plugs there so theres no point in a battery. its possibe there could be but think prctically and its a no no.

[ShadowV7]

I don't believe it is a battery,Nintendo has said horizontal AND vertical,no battery

[Raven]

Maybe you could charge the Revolution and play without powersource.. that would be.. em.. cool?
this isnt far wrong. a friend of a friend of mine worked at Nintendo... and yeah. i believe that the system is completely portable, in terms of:
-AV cables (nothing new. go to electronics shop for this)
-power supply. i believe that it gets charged at a docking station of sorts.
i mean hell, the battery thing isnt a problem. if it starts to get low, just wack it on the docking station! if you dont want a battery chargeable revo, just leave it on the station 24/7...
if its all COMPLETELY wireless (nintendo have claimed its a wireless system), you could totally just put the system ANYWHERE in the room. it wouldnt matter if it stood up or layed down. asthetics really.

[triforce_keeper]

well i think its a pretty neat idea myself! It will just stay in either my living room or my bedroom. Its not like I will take it to the park or anything. And I dont think its essenial because in the mag it says it "also" acts as a powersupply to the revolution. So I dont think it really matters whether you use it as one or not.

[Nintendork]

Anyone know anything about bandwidth? I'm betting the Revolution will use 802.11b?
There is no-way Nintendo will be using wireless image transfer at a suitable playable rate.

The idea that the console will sit on your coffee table is preposterous.

The idea of a battery is lame, confusing and complicated.

It will be plugged into a SD television, or computer model horizontally or vertically, the stand is merely decorative to ensure the system is stable and not scratched or at risk of any spillages.

The internet and controller will be wireless, nothing else.. there is no future expansion of wireless video streaming.

Oh sorry, what am I saying? The magazine says so... it must be true

[DCK]

It makes no sense to put up production costs by $10 for a battery for the 1% of people who will attempt to see if it works in the car and end up sueing Nintendo claiming the controller breaks noses when you accidentally plunge it into the face of the person sitting next to you.

[knightendo]

well at the minute i like DCK's idea that it could be used either way, and raven your idea is cool but unfortunately i can't see it happening :( boohoo, i love it tho!

and yes, i WILL believe it if it is in the official magazine until nintendo say otherwise. after all, the current pictures are of mock-ups that don't need to look as if they could be a transformer, this can change when functionality is added to the next mock-up or even the finished product. as it stands, nintendo themselves are saying this, they could change their mind however, but this is the latest news as far as i am concerned.

[Nintendork]

Just because it says Nintendo official magazine doesn't mean anyone from Nintendo works at future.
In fact they probably have 1 legal person who came over when the office got set up to explain what and what not they can say in the magazine.. though this communication could have been done by formal letter.

You forgot that magazine reporters are arrogant twats just out of university and think they know everything. Many of the staff probably don't even like Nintendo.. it's just their job remember.

They're probably waiting until they can get a job at a national newspaper.

[knightendo]

ok so i don't personally know any journalists for games magazines, but where do you get off calling them that?! that was just uncalled for!!

with the pedigree that is working on the magazine with years of experience, proven nintendo track record in them all, and with them having (and i quote) unprecedented access to nintendo, why not just take their word for it for now? you're basing your argument on the mock-up you have seen, it is only a mock-up! look how the ds changed over its design process, and the revo could be the same, they knocked together what they have at the minute, the stand could change to be made of something else, be thicker at the rear, anything!

please, i don't want to argue, i come here to relax, all i'm saying is that the design you are basing your argument on was only for display purposes and to give us an idea of how the stand will look. yes that could change, or it might not, but at the minute all we can do is wait for e3.

[Nintendork]

I'm basing my argument on electrical engineering principles and the patent that was filed of the Revolution console.

I've e.mailed Nintendo's PR department over it to clear it up once and for all.

Will post up their response asap.

[raven_blade2006]

Power Supply = Stand. Never seen that before. At least it shows someone cares about the aesthetics of the console. Much better looking and efficient than a big power brick for a certain console.

[knightendo]

I'm basing my argument on electrical engineering principles and the patent that was filed of the Revolution console.

I've e.mailed Nintendo's PR department over it to clear it up once and for all.

Will post up their response asap.

unfortunately i can't see ninty replying, with how secretive they're rightly being over the console. we may just have to wait. personally, i'd like the stand to change a little so it can house the transformer instead of having a brick like the xbox 360. but on the other hand, the cube's transformer is small enough to hide and i can't see the revo's being any bigger, so if it ends up as just a stand i'll be happy enough too as that's defo how i'm gonna display my revolution :)

[Nintendork]

Well I told them I was representing a highly respectable video games news source. *cough*

Of course they will reply.. I worded it as if this magazine had caused mass unnecesary confusion amongst the gaming community.

[knightendo]

but if they're not allowed to say anything they won't go beyond some form of "no comment". be patient my friend... :) they'll reveal all, and either way i don't mind if it is just a stand or not.

[Nintendork]

People who want to display it horizontally will.
Which will probably be about half the owners of the console, if not more because that's how most electronics in the house are.

[rokhed00]

And people say ONM is better than NOM.
At least NOM were properly informed.

[Nintendork]

They did their best with what they have..

[mario114]

When you say power suply, what is meant, of course a battery couldn't go in there, but it seems likaly that it would act as a docking station to keep it powered, and maybe even conected, maybe on the final version of the stand both: the power and tv input will go to the stand, so the console can remain wire-free, it's not that far fetched, lots of electronical iteams use much small docking stations, and maybe it can also exept plugs in the back, to work like any other console would.

[Nintendork]

Revolution power supply definitive post

But it already has a perfectly fine cable based power supply detailed in the system.
What do you think is cheaper, safer, easier to engineer, easier to set up.. what people are used to?

A docking station or a simple cable you plug into the system and it works just like every other electronic in the house.

http://oami.eu.int/bulletin/rcd/2006/2006_012/000431309_0001/images/000431309_0001_4_source.jpg
patent images can be found here: http://oami.eu.int/bulletin/rcd/2006/2006_012/000431309_0001.htm (also note how the patent includes the console's stand but the images show no ports what-so-ever. my conclusion? the stand's design has been patented with the console but is just a design piece of plastic for console stability)

There is a figure of 8 AC power supply there, AC is compliant with plug sockets which means the system will plug directly into the wall vertically or horizontally.

Are you still going to argue with the patent? Or are you still adamant of your fanatasy world where there is some magic wireless electricity transfer between the stand and the system.

There's feet so it can be used without the stand if you don't like it. presuming they do bundle it with the system for free as we expected from TGS.

You're all so deluded. (except those who don't buy this crap)

If you still can't imagine what this thing will look like here's a picture:

http://www.cliffracer.com/store/images/P22139-1.jpg

From. the. wall. to. the. console. just. like. a. PS2/1.

I beg of you to post this on other forums, show your friends and finally get rid of this crappy ass rumour going around that the stand is a power supply.

Future publishing? more Fabricated publishing.

[Fresh]

Revolution power supply definitive post

But it already has a perfectly fine cable based power supply detailed in the system.
What do you think is cheaper, safer, easier to engineer, easier to set up.. what people are used to?

A docking station or a simple cable you plug into the system and it works just like every other electronic in the house.

http://oami.eu.int/bulletin/rcd/2006/2006_012/000431309_0001/images/000431309_0001_4_source.jpg
patent images can be found here: http://oami.eu.int/bulletin/rcd/2006/2006_012/000431309_0001.htm (also note how the patent includes the console's stand but the images show no ports what-so-ever. my conclusion? the stand's design has been patented with the console but is just a design piece of plastic for console stability)

There is a figure of 8 AC power supply there, AC is compliant with plug sockets which means the system will plug directly into the wall vertically or horizontally.

Are you still going to argue with the patent? Or are you still adamant of your fanatasy world where there is some magic wireless electricity transfer between the stand and the system.

There's feet so it can be used without the stand if you don't like it. presuming they do bundle it with the system for free as we expected from TGS.

You're all so deluded. (except those who don't buy this crap)

If you still can't imagine what this thing will look like here's a picture:

http://www.cliffracer.com/store/images/P22139-1.jpg

From. the. wall. to. the. console. just. like. a. PS2/1.

I beg of you to post this on other forums, show your friends and finally get rid of this crappy ass rumour going around that the stand is a power supply.

Future publishing? more Fabricated publishing.


i must get back to lab and find some crazy way to make electricity fly for hours.

[Nintendork]

I'd love to see it.. but think of the pets :P

[knightendo]

future publishing may have been misinformed by accident by nintendo, or it could have been an early suggestion before the patent, or one they are still considering or changing... who knows. i don't think it's right to bash the entire magazine, they're official so all news comes from the big N.

the original NOM was so inaccurate i often wondered if nintendo were bothering with them at all anymore!

[Nintendork]

Yeah the rest of the magazine seemed solid.. Nintendo of Europe has only released 1 piece of information.

One that Revolution will be hear in 2006. via a press card

They're clearly not being kept in the loop much about Revolution.. perhaps with our ****king 2 million copies of Nintendogs they'll start considering us as a priority in the industry and get games here quicker.

[Nintendork]

Speculation officially debunked from NoE.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/revolutions-stand-aint-no-power-source-156194.php

What 'theory' is next?

[colormonkey]

Well that's a relief, didn't see any point in that.



What 'theory' is next?
Carefull you're becomming overconfident :heh:

[DCK]

Oh look they didn't announce anything about a power plug.

Hmmm....

*thinking*

What if...

THE REVOLUTION USES NO POWER


OMG lolz

[Nintendork]

Hahaha, yeah it runs on your self satisfaction that you're saving the environment.
Comes with a hand cranked modem that you must use to use Nintendo live.

By the way ram is not included so you must transload the line frequencies into ASCII then onload that onto your brain's memory.

[MikeMania]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/Kschreck19/BackOfStand.jpg

also, in the TGS unveling of the rev controller, in the end, the Revolution is sitting on a table and is clearly on as the light is shinning, yet there is no apparent cable. Battery? Its most likely just for presentation, but who knows.

[thecreepingmess]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/Kschreck19/BackOfStand.jpg

also, in the TGS unveling of the rev controller, in the end, the Revolution is sitting on a table and is clearly on as the light is shinning, yet there is no apparent cable. Battery? Its most likely just for presentation, but who knows.

The Revolution was just an empty box at TGS. If there was a battery it was an AAA Duracell battery used to power a tiny blue LED.

[McMad]

Wait i'm lost. :confused:

Is the power supply (the big box that is on the gamecube power wire) on the inside or the outside of the revolution because that plug-in wire that you have in that picture Nintendork doesn't have a power supply on it.

Considering the Revolution is a very small console similar to the Gamecube which saved space by having the power supply on the outside of the console wouldn't it make sense for the revolution to have the power supply on the outside aswell?

THIS IS MORE CONFUSING THAN THE ENDING OF METAL GEAR SOLID 2!!!!

[masaki86]

SPONG confirmed this is BS btw. cant be arsed to read thread, so apologies peeps if this has already been stated.

[MikeMania]

i doubt the AC is built in, but the pic i posted before clearly enables the Rev to be plugged in when in the stand.

[knightendo]

that article's use of the term "power brick" is a bit uncalled for! it woulda hidden the power tranformer, so if nintendo HAD have gone with the idea it woulda been so much better than the thing microsoft came out with!!

it will probably have a small box in the cable like the cube did.

[Nintendork]

No need for a small box, it's AC.
Those boxes are only required for DC hardware, like a mobile phone or a laptop.. primarily things with fast charge or high usage.

The 'small box' that came with the gamecube is actually built into the system effectively, it's quite impressive if you ask me that it's gonna be a single cable from the plug socket.

It would also explain why there's a fan on the bottom of the system just near to the power supply unit and one above it.

Mobile phones and laptops are designed to be smaller, AC ports are quite large and to have the AC to DC converter built into a phone or laptop would raise weight and size. So they use DC instead, direct current goes straight into the battery and it's a smaller single port directly transferring electricity.

It's gonna be sleek I tell thee, real easy to move around the house because AC cables are really cheap and easy to find, often being the same for each console.

I've got 2 PS1/2 AC cables that will fit the Revolution, so I can have it set up ready at every room in the house :)