Nintendo News | Microsoft Manager Knocks Revolution Online

[Nintendo Fan]

Quick News: In a very right to the bone interview with the General Manager of Microsoft's XBOX Live Arcade network, Greg Canessa, Nintendo's idea of a Virtual Console is praised slightly, before being put down quite shockingly. Read the full commentary below:



http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2188&Itemid=2

[VeteranAce]

I think he was teased by his older brother for not being able to finish the first world of Super Mario Bros. 3, so now he has some personal issues :p

[mike-zim]

well what a prick

[Nintendo Fan]

well what a prick
you said it mate.
He probably cant face the fact that Nintendo will have BETTER and MORE games for Download.
wooooooo!!! Super mario Bros 3

[ShadowV7]

Can he get any more biased,he has retro problems and it seems they consider Nintendo kissy aswell

[monkeyDluffy]

well we don't even know anything about the download service, they might offer new games etc.

[shade]

Ok he is commenting on a service which has not a lot of info to it and a service that is not even running yet. In the interview he said that he has deals with the likes of Midway and Capcom and so on.
He is going to be eating his words if Nintendo have deals with the same publishers and the downloadable games are online. You never know he might not show his face in public again if Nintendo unveil that its not only nintendo console games that are downloadable on revolution, arcade games as well? It's possible :D

[Shaolins_finest]

How can he say retro games are boring and then go on to say Guanlet and pacman never get old. Just so happens these games are on the xbox live arcade. What kind of B.S. is that. If its not on xbox it sucks

[Jordan]

At the moment, theres 10 or so Live Arcade games. Half of which aren't even worth a purchase due to the fact that they are cheaper on PC.

[goku21]

He wasn´t really talking bad about nintendo. He just pushed his own serrvice.
But...he doesn´t know more about the virtual console than we do. So I think, in terms of nintendo, he doesn´t know what he´s talking about. The possibility to create new games on the virtual console is rumored for a long time.

[Demuwan]

The biggest bell-end ever. Nintendo games not gonna hold up and to think I used to like Microsoft. That one interview has done a LOT more damage to Microsoft than good. All my respect for them has vanished.

Give it a week and he'll be apologising cus he's realised what a fucking Moron he has been. Just like that fool from Epic.

Dumbass piece of crap

[Ashley]

As monkeyDluffy said, Nintendo have yet to announce the full details so there could be new games, akin to how Tetris is getting reworked a bit on the DS. Some classic games that are still enjoyable without nostalgic-tinted glasses, could be improved or made shiny or whatever and put to be downloaded.

Plus didn't Nintendo say they were looking into improving the graphics or something for old games?

Lol he says "Arcade" a total of 15 times, I think hes just trying to advertise really :p

[system_error]

"When I look at Nintendo Revolution's retro story, with all due respect to Nintendo, I think it's a small subset of the opportunity here. To be honest with you, a lot of those games are fun in your head when you think, 'Oh, yeah when I was 12, this was really fun,' and you have these great nostalgic reasons to play them. Then you do play them, and they're just not very fun anymore. But, there are some games like Joust or Gauntlet or Pac-Man that are as fun today as they were back then.

"A lot of those Nintendo games, you know, aren't gonna hold up."



Soooo Gauntlet, Joust and Co will last longer and are the "better" games than Super Mario, Ocarina of Time, Pilotwings 64. Yeah let me check again how many games are in the XBOX Live Arcade compared to the download catalogue of Nintendo. It is really funny how some people have to bash to make their stuff sound better. True XBOX Live is quite advanced and also very entertaining but I think Nintendo can easily compete with that at least when it comes down to games.

[DCK]

Of course he wouldn't say anything good about Nintendo, but next time, he'd better only say 'no comment' :indeed:

[EchoDesiato]

A lot of those Nintendo games, you know, aren't gonna hold up
So he's saying Joust and Gauntlet are better games than say, Super Mario World and OOT? How the hell did he get in the gaming industry?

[MunKy]

Hmmm, 20 years of the best of gaming. 15 standard games. I think I'll pick the 20 years of awesomeness thankyou. No on can beat Nintendos classics.

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Why listen to a fool?

[Nintendork]

CBA to read it, because I know it will just be banter.

xbox would be foolish not to be worried by a fully supported first party free games service.

They saw the numbers of the DS Wi-Fi connections.. and they also see the numbers that consoles outsell portables.

I'd be worried, Xbox silver does not compare.

[shade]

This guy is menat to be a professional yet his comments where not very professional.

[Kurtle Squad]

AHAHAHAHAHA....What the hell's he on about!?!?

For a start, has he not realised how well people recieve old retro games and still enjoy them today?!?!

[Pyxis]

I never had a NES or SNES...Im probably going to be playing more retro games than Revolution games when I get one. 2D Metroid and Super Mario...I cant wait.

Xbox Live? Pong? lol.....

[kav82]

That simply made me laugh hysterically!!!

[cubeboy101]

ha ha ha makes me smile ds and revo both free to play online and advanced level of offline wifi support including game share multi play from one cart or disc all totally free xbox live gold is wot you will need for down loads and online play with shedbox 360 so acording to microsoft paying is better than free year right like ill pay £40 a year to play online wen its free with ds and revolution free and easy is way to go

[cubeboy101]

i trust nintendo far more at op stability and lag free conection than windows maker microsoft with there buggy laggy and hackers delight system

[Liquid_Vegeta]

Guys do you honestly think someone who works for Microsoft is going to outwardly say

"Yeah I love the sound of Nintendo's online service I cant wait to play OOT again"

Put simply, no he is not. It's this mans job to push Live arcade, hell thats his specialised area, he is saying these things because to his department the Revolution virtual console is the big rival and they have to be worried. So please, don't take it literally when a Microsoft representitive talks about how great Microsoft are and everyone else isn't.

ha ha ha makes me smile ds and revo both free to play online and advanced level of offline wifi support including game share multi play from one cart or disc all totally free xbox live gold is wot you will need for down loads and online play with shedbox 360 so acording to microsoft paying is better than free year right like ill pay £40 a year to play online wen its free with ds and revolution free and easy is way to go


i trust nintendo far more at op stability and lag free conection than windows maker microsoft with there buggy laggy and hackers delight system


Please go outside and find the largest hole you can find and try to fly over it.

[Innovance]

Frankly hes far too cocky. All the competition has to do is offer a competent free service and live is already undermined. Not to mention the fact that the competition cant ignore live so that will be their target whther they admit it or not, how are microsoft going to survive? How are they going to justify paying for Live. In all likeliness those comments will comeback to haunt him

[kellett03]

its always good bashing the compition, he's doing it to nintendo, were laughing at him and the cycle goes around and around

[McPhee]

he's right. retro games arent fun, but that includes these crappy arcade "classics" that microsoft are getting.

the only generation of games that ive found to age well was the SNES/Mega Drive era, i admit still enjoying the odd game on those

[gaggle64]

Let's not pay too much attention to this guy - he is the enemy after all. All the companies will be fuming toxic PR clouds like a volcanic range (with Reggie actually spitting fire), so I think we can all look forward to this kind of cheap, baseless fanboy esque bitch slapping for many months yet.

[Jamba]

I know this guy is from MS but I don't really think he has his facts straight. How is Nintendos virtual console a limitted idea? Maybe new, simple games are being made for the virtual console.

Ooooops, did I forget to mention that Nintendos online service for online multiplay will be free. Yes FREE... can your hear me Mr. Gates!?!!

[oxygenuk]

that prick needs to be shot

[skarmachild]

I can see where he is coming from.

I dont want to play Ice Climbers, that'll get old in 5-odd Minutes. I'd rather play Ice Climbers with updated graphics and achievements and online play*, something that Microsoft and respective developers are doing with the XBL Arcade.

* - T'was rumoured Nintendo would update games, do it Ninty.

Wasn't rumoured. Confirmed :P

[BeerMonkey]

BURN THE WITCH!!

[Cheapshot]

Lol you guys are acting pathetic; It's his job to make out that his product is best. :/ Don't let it get to you guys.

[Liquid_Vegeta]

Yes FREE... can your hear me Mr. Gates!?!!


Not entirely free as you will have to pay to download retro games.

[goku21]

i trust nintendo far more at op stability and lag free conection than windows maker microsoft with there buggy laggy and hackers delight system
This is the best post I´ve ever read....hackers delight system, it´s woth to put that into my signature...lol this is amazing spelling...

[mistermotto]

Whilst Nintendo's online service for DS is sufficient, for a home console it's just simply not good enough. If they can successfully build a community-based interface much like L!VE then we're onto something.

In any case I will never, ever pay to play games online. Even though I appreciate the fact that servers cost money, paying for a top Broadband connection, then paying for the game, and then paying for the subscription fees to play that game is just way too much money, especially since we've just seen game prices breach the £50 thresh-hold.

With regards to the Retro comment; this guy is just a trash-talking, company-cheerleading nonce, much like Phil Harrison and Reginald Fils-Aime. Sure, there are some games that age badly (mostly pre-16Bit and 32/64Bit in some cases), but there are a massive wealth of classics out there, and anyone criticising the likes of Super Mario World shouldn't be working in the games industry.

[Andross]

Pac-man and Joust hold up today whereas OoT, Super Mario World and Super Metroid don't?! Having a giraffe! His only noteworthy criticism is that they haven't officially decided yet to allow other 'new' games on the VC (Geometry Wars etc.) rather than just the retro back-catalogue. Would be a hell of a missed opportunity if they didn't.

[CoolFunkMan]

AHAHAHAHAHA....What the hell's he on about!?!?

For a start, has he not realised how well people recieve old retro games and still enjoy them today?!?!

Tbh, I couldn't agree more!

His only real argument is that retro games are old, so they aren't good anymore.... wtf?
I know for a fact that the retro gaming community is quite large. A lot of people I know pefer retro gaming to modern and newer games. This Microsoft moron really doesn't have a clue.

[MunKy]

I dont really get the whole Pac-man phenomenon. It was good back in the day but it bores me now. Space Invaders and Tetris I still love however.They should mix those two. He can play Pac-man, I'll play all of the mario platformers from beginning to Rev.

[Hellfire]

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[demonmike04]

Lets put it this way, you arent exactly gonna fully compliment your opposing company are you? You want the audience to swing your way..

[VeteranAce]

Lets put it this way, you arent exactly gonna fully compliment your opposing company are you? You want the audience to swing your way..

True, but it can be said in a different manner, not like he did it (imho). I think you should respect your competition to a *certain* degree.
Still, it's fun, because it spices up the whole bitch fight till the consoles are out :bouncy: And we are all in the middle of it :yay:

[jakeee]

I don't agree with him but you know what? I don't care! There will always be bashing and bull****. You can't avoid it. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to playing Majora's Mask and some other great games which I have missed.

[Smalldude76]

Bill Gates was also reported as saying that Nintendo sucks poopy-bum. Doesn't that piss you lot off?

[Andross]

Lets put it this way, you arent exactly gonna fully compliment your opposing company are you? You want the audience to swing your way..


Yes, but saying what he did makes him appear like an utter fool. It would be enough for him to big-up their XBLA service. That would have gotten the point across, but to bad-mouth Nintendo's back-catalogue, which is infinitely stronger than any other company today is pure stupidity. It's a blatently redundant thought that makes him out to be an utter moron. He can comment on their actual service when they actually dish out details on it.

Until then, it's anybody's guess to how they implement it, but to say their legacy doesn't live up to today's standards is absurd. Just look at the Famicom Mini Series sales for proof. Telling people about your product doesn't ALWAYS have to follow on with you badmouthing the opposition, especially when the criticisms are completely retarded.

[Jamba]

It's been a long time since I've heard someone say, "We have learnt a lot about (blah) by looking at the work (blah) did with/on (blah)".

It actually quite a strength to see a good idea and use it yourself. Yeah it's copying but it just makes sense.

[Kurtle Squad]

I dont really get the whole Pac-man phenomenon. It was good back in the day but it bores me now. Space Invaders and Tetris I still love however.They should mix those two. He can play Pac-man, I'll play all of the mario platformers from beginning to Rev.

You need to play PacMan VS. ;)

[raven_blade2006]

With some luck the Revolution Virtual Console Service should feature games from:
*NES
*SNES
*N64
*Megadrive
*Saturn
*Atari
*Other retro consoles
and possibly
*Original Games

Thats far more than what the XBLA is offering. That foolish man at Microsoft must be on drugs...

[Dr Kong]

The guy has a point. Xbox live offers quick downloadble games which are original and were designed for the 360 while the Nintendo download service only offers games which have been released allready or re-released and even re-re-realesed. And Nintendo say they're the inovative ones.

[The Peeps]

The guy has a point. Xbox live offers quick downloadble games which are original and were designed for the 360 while the Nintendo download service only offers games which have been released allready or re-released and even re-re-realesed. And Nintendo say they're the inovative ones.

I see your point kong, but you can't imply that Microsoft are more innovative than Nintendo just because they have a few original downloadable games. It's a good feature and it's new and original but it doesn't put them ahead of Nintendo in terms of innovation

[Dr Kong]

I see your point kong, but you can't imply that Microsoft are more innovative than Nintendo just because they have a few original downloadable games. It's a good feature and it's new and original but it doesn't put them ahead of Nintendo in terms of innovation

I understand that but my reply was more in regards to members in this thread who have tantrums everytime someone points out flaws in their beloved Nintendo.

Oh and I can get most previous generation Nintendo games on ROM's anyway ;)

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

This news has totally ruined my week.

[cubeboy101]

its not so mutch wot he says is true its the impact it has on mainstream consumers oh he must be right he is from microsoft and microsoft are great and so is windows its the half assed mentallity of the average consumer he is trying to reach as a average consumer has no understanding of nintendo and a false understanding of microsoft any GAMER as in a trully gaming aware person knows full well microsoft have no history or merit in gaming and nintendo do but the average jo on the stret thinks oh bill gates oh microsoft it must be a good console they made it how miss informed is that most mainstream consumers dont even know what nintendo is they dont even know that the gameboy is by nintendo morons the lot of them

[YenRug]

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Do we have an ignore option on here? If not, can we get one added?

[mario_jr]

its not so mutch wot he says is true its the impact it has on mainstream consumers oh he must be right he is from microsoft and microsoft are great and so is windows its the half assed mentallity of the average consumer he is trying to reach as a average consumer has no understanding of nintendo and a false understanding of microsoft any GAMER as in a trully gaming aware person knows full well microsoft have no history or merit in gaming and nintendo do but the average jo on the stret thinks oh bill gates oh microsoft it must be a good console they made it how miss informed is that most mainstream consumers dont even know what nintendo is they dont even know that the gameboy is by nintendo morons the lot of them

LINUX :idea: Microsoft? LINUX

[Fierce_LiNk]

Do we have an ignore option on here? If not, can we get one added?

Quick links> User Control Panel > Buddy/ignore lists (at the bottom, on the left hand side)

[YenRug]

Quick links> User Control Panel > Buddy/ignore lists (at the bottom, on the left hand side)

Thanks for the pointer, I now have my very first ignored poster.

[Shino]

LOL, poor guy, he just needs to learn how to write.

[Beanie]

I'll be disappointed if Nintendo don't include new games in the service. Live Arcade is easily the most appealing aspect of the 360 for me. I want to be playing games like Bejewelled, Wik & the Fable of Souls, Marble Blast Ultra, Mutant Storm, etc. on my Rev. If it doesn't happen, then I'll probably end up getting a 360 too.