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Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Well...what if things don't get better?

I mean, I used to always be very optimistic. Always had hope and looked at the bright side of things. But lately alot of stuff happened. I may get into some details. But I don't think any good will come from me dumping this load on you.

This is not something out of pity but more to get out part fo how I feel and maybe some of you feel the same way or have a different vision.

But, seriously, what if things don't get better...ever? Are you truely, deeply happy with the way thinsg are now in the world? Are others truely happy? Is this the way it should be? Will there be change? Will it be for the better?

I'm starting to lose hope here ya know...for the world...I don't think life will get better. Humans are too far gone now, and its too late to turn around. Technolgy wise, we are far, but do we need it all? NO! But they tell us we need it anyway now.
For example, you don't fit in if you don't have a cell phone or mp3 player, or a console or whatever.
I feel that the standards for living are waaaay too high now. And for some people (like myself) I feel the standard is too high. And I don't even want to reach that standard. I don't need all that crap.
What I want in life is to be happy. In fact, I think we all want that. Everyone makes his/her own happy. But can you ever reach your goal?

There are things I want in life...things that take time..alot. But taking time in such a world like this is unthinkable. You HAVE to go to school, and you HAVE to get a job and you MUST do your part for this society.
But who decides whats best? And, can one be truely happy in combination with meeting the requirments society asks of you?
Or does it change your life so drastically, aking it harder to reach your goals, that you set new goals, with lower standards, just so you can accomplish them? And will that make you truely happy?

Unfortunatly, like it or not, there is nothing outside society, if you cant make it inside you must certainly wont make it outside... We need society, we cant live with it and we cant live without it either.

Now, there is of course religion. I myself was raised a Christian. As a Christian, we believe that Jesus will return to Earth and everything will be okay again. No more war no more hurt...etc.
I myself, like that idea alot. Though I still have alot of doubts most of the time and I have alot to learn about religion.

On a side note, I know alot of you arent religious, but I ask for respect anyway, to me, and to others who are also religious. And I of course respect anyone who isnt religious too.

Now, as much as I like to believe that everything will be okay...I just cant anymore...recent events in my life made me very insecure about this matter and it is very tempting to just give up hope and just...collapse...
But don't I deserve a happy life? Don't we all deserve to be who or what we want to be?
Is that really possible these days? Or have we gone too far, making it very hard to impossible for people like me and people far worse off to have a appy life?

If you ask me now, this very instance, if I'm happy, I will say..yes I am. Will you ask me, if I'm TRUELY happy, then I will say no.

I cannot be myself, society doesnt give me time to do what I need to do...they expect me to get a job and go to school. While really things are going on that need attention first. 0_0 but is that do-able? Is that allowed?

The answer would be no...or maybe yes...soon I will have the correct answer...will it make me happy? Yes. Will it make me truely happy? No.

I just wonder...will things get better? Will they really? Or will society fall within the next 5 to 10 years?

You may say thats not alot, its too soon. But things change fast my dear friends. Things change really fast. and I don't know who's behind it all. But I don't like it one bit.

I seen the world change in a mere 5 years. Making it nearly impossible to survive...to just be me...

Will things ever be okay?

...

All we can do is hope...wait and hope...but I can't ever garantuee things will be okay.
Let me just say, if you are out there doing what you love, don't give that up. EVER. You will regret it.
Also, if you see things are going wrong, fight it, as soon as possible. Take that from me.

Thats about it I guess, I don't expect pity, but I do ask for respect, and serious replies. If you can't be serious about this please don't comment and keep it to yourself. Thank you very much.

Hope you're all haveing an excellent week n_n

--Ray

Mr. Bananagrabber
19-09-2005, 10:25 PM
That post truly depressed me :(

The3rdChildren
19-09-2005, 10:29 PM
There's just as much good in the world as there is bad. Go with the flow and remember the glass is half full, not empty. You haven't even lived half your life yet and already things are this bad? If you don't alter your mindset than yeah, things aren't going to get better. Sorry Ray, but this is all down to perception.

Everyone fits in their own way, some don't ever bother. Everyone finds contentment and happiness in different things, some in even the darkest of matters. The world around you is a direct product of your own perception, it becomes worse with negative tint sunglasses and better with positive tinted ones. I guess it's easier for people to fault something because usually faults in something are more prominent than good, we take what's good for granted.

Sure, my life isn't a walk in the park. But it isn't -that- bad, and I'm glad to be alive. Take all of your problems and weigh them up to a child who died at the age of two from a tragic disease. Weigh them up to someone who was born blind, or handicapped to the point where an existence to your life's seemingly terrible calibur is impossible. Their shot at life, the life you're calling so bad, is gone. Weigh your problems against theirs Your shit doesn't seem so bad now, does it.

Cheer up, Ray. Good has more letters in it than bad.

Girly hiyaz!~ Gamer
19-09-2005, 10:32 PM
This is such a piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttyyyyyy

My only fear is that my beatiful Californian friends don't pick up some sort of Chavvy language from over here. It will truely break my heart.

Blackfox
19-09-2005, 10:37 PM
Teenage angst,

Its the world as we know it, get used to it.

dukkadukka
19-09-2005, 10:38 PM
pardon me while i go and hang myself...

seriously though, things always get better. i've hit some pretty grim lows in my life, but you ALWAYS recover. i can't tell you when things will get better, but i know that they will eventually. hang on in there *hug* sorry if i can't give you any more advice, you've been quite vague. if you need someone to talk to you can pm me at any time :)

Surrealist
19-09-2005, 10:40 PM
That was one looooong post.

The sad thing is, I agreed with most of it :(

Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 10:41 PM
There's just as much good in the world as there is bad. Go with the flow and remember the glass is half full, not empty. You haven't even lived half your life yet and already things are this bad? If you don't alter your mindset than yeah, things aren't going to get better. Sorry Ray, but this is all down to perception.

I know that, I know that very well. And I do try to go with the flow, but so far I failed at that.. as a creative person, and as an emotional person, I'm much better off on my own, HOWEVER, as a human being, we all need other people.
My society here has become really bad..shallow and just..nasty. No one cares anymore
I don't just say that. Its true from my point of view yes.

But I'm not giving up here either, I never said I did, I just feel that its becoming very hard. I don't need a boost in ego here I just want opinions.
I just said its very tempting to give up. Though its far from over.

Just have to make the best of things yes, but I don't expect to ever be truely happy.

I probably wanted to say more but thats it for now.

And sorry if I depressed people. I'm hoping to come to a more happy conclusion soon. I always have moments like this. Always have been. Pretty soon I'll probably have the complete opposite of this in mind.

Just right now I feel I need to get this out.

--Ray

pardon me while i go and hang myself...

seriously though, things always get better. i've hit some pretty grim lows in my life, but you ALWAYS recover. i can't tell you when things will get better, but i know that they will eventually. hang on in there *hug* sorry if i can't give you any more advice, you've been quite vague. if you need someone to talk to you can pm me at any time :)

Sorry, I know people here dont like me double posting but I'll fix this as soon as I wake up or something.

Thank you. But again, I dont need advice or help, well I do but I'm seeing a professional soon. I have all the answers inside me...I can always talk myself up again. I help so many other people as well. Tjough part of me is being arrogant and stubborn, most of what I say is true. (not referring to this tread per se)

I'm gonna be okay ...I just need time, just want to know what my place is and what I can do to be truely happy.
Not giving up.

Btw, this isnt teenage angst as I am 20, but in mind I'm alot older, (yes that sound sarrogant probably but I dont expect many to fully understand me as long as you dont know my full life story which I wont bother you all here with)

I'm not even being depressed at this moment, my mind is very clear and this tread is well considered 0_0 or whatever.

I dont spread random depression or happiness, I always base them on my feelingas and experiences. Most of this istruth (though probably doesnt apply to most people)
But its never just random, it comes from somewere, and thats why I can help so many people too (another part of me that I wont get into right now)

Thanks all for your opinions, keep it coming

--Ray

Athriller
19-09-2005, 10:49 PM
Will things get better? Why should they? Why even care?

Don't hang onto myths and fairy tales, take what you can get and run. It's what I do, and I'm living life in the fast lane!

Just concentrate on giving yourself the greatest treatment possible, and let go of the world around you. Things will go the way they must, so make the most of it.

Fierce_LiNk
19-09-2005, 10:57 PM
If we all moaned about the bad stuff in the world, we'd be missing all the good things in life, and believe me..there are plenty of amazing things.

You can enjoy school and your job. I've been working for 2 weeks in a primary school, and i've enjoyed every second of it. I'm now looking forward even more to becoming a teacher. Life is what you make of it. You can have a job you like, it's all about preference.

There's more to life than worrying about religion. I know this as much as anybody, religion causes so many problems. Thing is, if you keep worrying about the bad stuff, it overshadows the good things, which just means you end up feeling unhappy when you could potentially be in an amazing mood.

Of course you can have a happy life. But it's you who has to make it good. You can't rely on the world to change to fit in with your plans. Sometimes you have to struggle to get the things you really want, but that just makes the end product all that more sweeter.

I hope i've made sense.

rizz
19-09-2005, 11:03 PM
From skim-reading your first post, fuck 'em. Screw the tossers and rape the church. Everything I see is messed up, usually the people, but everything else, yeah, I have no hope for anything else. I have never once in my life been truly happy, and I doubt I ever will be. And it's their fault, so fuck them, all of them. I'm not sure what you were on about but I have a good idea. Erm... what atif said really :P

OneOff
19-09-2005, 11:07 PM
Every Human will have struggles in there life, some more then others, but there won't be one person who won't get problems and struggles in there life, but we have them for a reason, we have these problems to make our selfs stronger, and to learn how to cope with things in life.

No one ever said everyones life is gunna be happy, you have to make it happy.

Smalldude76
19-09-2005, 11:10 PM
The world's sunk into a rut. A rut where the majority and the popularity always wins. Stupidity defeats logic and a leader is no longer liable. Who supports this? What's the 'in' thing? How can I be accepted? What can I change about myself to conform to the world around me? All questioned asked by today's people. The old wish to be young and the young act like they're old. Nobody wants to be where they are, always wanting more, to be different, to be the same. I don't think things will ever change as long as the human race is dominant of our planet. As we spin the tires that are life, we'll only keep digging ourselves deeper in the mudhole. What we need is a disaster to wipe the planet of our life and allow evolution to bring a more superior, primitive life form to domination. Start the cycle over. Inhumnane? Not if humanity ceases to exist, to influence, to destroy.

don't really know if that's at all the right subject, but that's what I got from it...

Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 11:11 PM
If we all moaned about the bad stuff in the world, we'd be missing all the good things in life, and believe me..there are plenty of amazing things.

You can enjoy school and your job. I've been working for 2 weeks in a primary school, and i've enjoyed every second of it. I'm now looking forward even more to becoming a teacher. Life is what you make of it. You can have a job you like, it's all about preference.

There's more to life than worrying about religion. I know this as much as anybody, religion causes so many problems. Thing is, if you keep worrying about the bad stuff, it overshadows the good things, which just means you end up feeling unhappy when you could potentially be in an amazing mood.

Of course you can have a happy life. But it's you who has to make it good. You can't rely on the world to change to fit in with your plans. Sometimes you have to struggle to get the things you really want, but that just makes the end product all that more sweeter.

I hope i've made sense.


This made alot of sense and I do agree. And yes there are many great thinsg in life.

I myself always say: "It always looks like theres more bad stuff, but thats cause its easier for bad stuff to show itself, the good stuff has a hard time getting noticed" Something like that anyway.

But yeah I still agree its a matter of perspective. I myself have set my goals, but right now life caught up with me and my past haunts me even now. Making it at this very moment nearly impossible for me to continue fighting for my dreams.

Sometimes we set our goals, but it doenst mean those goals are the best for us...
I wrote a story about that on deviantart.
Its quite a nice story if I say so myself, the words just came I never even expected to write it...it has lots of metafores too.

Its here: "The journey so far" (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22429909/)
I dont expect you to read it, its fairly long, but very much worth it I promise. If you made it this far then reading that would help understand me better maybe.

I also agree on what you said about religion. Though I was raised a Christian, I havent always been active in religion. Part of me does believe (or do I, maybe its just imprinted in my brain when I was a kid) but a big part of me just..doesnt.

Challenges in life made me very strong, but that also had its downsides... MAybe I'm not the type of persdon for religion. But so far I tried everything in life, so I figured, why not give religion another shot?

T_T still dealing with that, its along journey but we'll see. First thinsg first.

I cannot enjoy a job or school however, like you said, that is because of personal reasons, so I do understand that in general that can be possible. Just not for me at the moment for various reasons. not trying to talk myself down, just being real and facing facts,

I have an extra chain on me, making life harder. Not saying that makes me better or special, and I know others are worse off, but its still there, and I need to deal with that.

Thank you for sharing your view. I do agree with alot you said, and I already came up with that myself. So you just confirmed what I already knew which makes it more true (I like confirmation on the truth)

(btw I realize I'mbeing vague here sorry. and also for double posting, again, I'l fix that soon maybe, its a discussion after all)

Uhm thats it for now again. Gonna see what other people wrote. Glad to see you are enjoying life though, adds to the hope n_~

--Ray

Fierce_LiNk
19-09-2005, 11:16 PM
Seriously, life isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. I love life. Sure, it's like a rollercoaster, suddenly you're on a high, then you sink to a low. But, the best times are when you're on a low and you cheer up and you feel absolutely invincible. That's what being alive is all about. If every second in your life is a happy moment, you would get incredibly bored and you would just crave more. It's good to have balance where you have some good times and some bad times, because then you will experience both emotions.

Sure, i've had many problems, but i know that i've had many truely amazing moments. It's just the way things work. Life isn't all doom and gloom. But it isn't a laugh a minute either. It can be stressful, but it can feel like freedom. It's meant to be all of these things. But, as the Oasis song "cigarettes and alcohol" goes:

"you gotta make it happen".

So make it happen.

Shmotz
19-09-2005, 11:19 PM
I'm happeir right now than I think I have been in a long time/ever. Everything seems to be going just fine, nothing has gone wrong. Obviously Uni on Sunday could change that ;)

But right now I just do what I want to do and it rules.

Speaking of technology and all that jazz, the only thing that worried me recently is that Scientists believe Global Warming has crossed the threshold into ireeparable damage, with predictions that this Winter alone there will be around 18.2% less ice if current trends are anything to go by.

But I don't preoccupy myself with these things. I think it was some Philosopher who said 'Things can only get better' (Now I've found you, things can only get, can only get etc).

Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 11:19 PM
The world's sunk into a rut. A rut where the majority and the popularity always wins. Stupidity defeats logic and a leader is no longer liable. Who supports this? What's the 'in' thing? How can I be accepted? What can I change about myself to conform to the world around me? All questioned asked by today's people. The old wish to be young and the young act like they're old. Nobody wants to be where they are, always wanting more, to be different, to be the same. I don't think things will ever change as long as the human race is dominant of our planet. As we spin the tires that are life, we'll only keep digging ourselves deeper in the mudhole. What we need is a disaster to wipe the planet of our life and allow evolution to bring a more superior, primitive life form to domination. Start the cycle over. Inhumnane? Not if humanity ceases to exist, to influence, to destroy.

don't really know if that's at all the right subject, but that's what I got from it...



I agree with all of that too. There are many ways to look at this. From the worlds point of view, humans are causeing all that is bad. What seems to be best for the world is for all humans to die. Not something the masses will like to hear. And personally I dont want to die either. But from that point of view, yes though be it extreme, it rings truth. An objective point of view that is.

Btw, I said it many times, on the old CE too. I only need my two thinsg in life to be happy.

I have aquired one of those things. The other was just flushed down the drain when school emailed me and I got slapped in the face with a fish by reality many a time.

I also agree with the person who said life isnt easy for anyone, and we mess up so we learn and to grow strong.
I been through alot in my life, and the past 7 months have been heaven and hell. I been down so many times, and got up stronger everytime. But enough is enough thanks.
I know what I want in life, I can leave my stuff now, walk away, and my life will be complete, and I will be truely happy. BUT; in the end, society will come knocking on my door, asking me to pay the taxes, asking me to get a job, play my part, vote.

I have all the ingredients to make a truely happy life... I just cant put them together and make it work....

--Ray

Smalldude76
19-09-2005, 11:20 PM
The greatest thing in life that can happen to someone is falling in love. There's many great things, but nothing can measure up to love. Sure we shouldn't hold out on everything for love because that's depriving us of other great things, but when it comes it's a great feeling. Thing that sucks is finding out they do not love you back...

Basically as F_LiNk said "Make it happen"

Athriller
19-09-2005, 11:26 PM
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

"No human thing is of serious importance."

"You are young, my son, and, as the years go by, time will change and even reverse many of your present opinions. Refrain therefore awhile from setting yourself up as a judge of the highest matters."

And the greatest:


"The man who makes everything that leads to happiness depends upon himself, and not upon other men, has adopted the very best plan for living happily. This is the man of moderation, the man of manly character and of wisdom. "

Heed the words of Plato. Over 2 millenia old, yet he still remains to be years ahead of the pack.

Tphi
19-09-2005, 11:29 PM
I'm living life in the fast lane!

Posting on a European Nintendo fansite's message board? :D

Sorry dude, couldn't resist. ^_^ (A suitably scathing response would be "Compared to working for one?") :)

Anyway, to Ray Falling's posts. I feel like that sometimes (probably because I'm a student bumming around in my gap year spending an hour or so a day working for a European Nintendo fansite :)) But there are good times and special people. You just gotta go and find them.

Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Posting on a European Nintendo fansite's message board? :D

Sorry dude, couldn't resist. ^_^ (A suitably scathing response would be "Compared to working for one?") :)

Anyway, to Ray Falling's posts. I feel like that sometimes (probably because I'm a student bumming around in my gap year spending an hour or so a day working for a European Nintendo fansite :)) But there are good times and special people. You just gotta go and find them.


I agree. Problem is, I found those people, just cant reach them as it is. Life has been bad for me yes, but its been awesome too, special since I came to deviantart. I learned so many freaking life lessons in so little time, its not even funny. The people I met these past months, I'd die for em, they mean so much to me T_T just so frustrated that they're either out of reach or stuff happens to make me lose em. I need to get outta the country T_T and fast.
Holland is not the right country for me.

The greatest thing in life that can happen to someone is falling in love. There's many great things, but nothing can measure up to love. Sure we shouldn't hold out on everything for love because that's depriving us of other great things, but when it comes it's a great feeling. Thing that sucks is finding out they do not love you back...

Basically as F_LiNk said "Make it happen"

Sorry for double posting again. It's just for comfort now, not intended as spam anyway.

I agree. Love is awesome. And thats part of my problem. I have found love, and she loves me back. I'm in a working long distance relationship. And that makes me sooo freaking happy. I love my girl more than anything. But the one thing that can make me truely happy is to be with her.
But for that I'd need to leave behidn home (which I dont have a problem with) but it will cost MONEY, that damn thing thats keeping our world spinning nowadays.

For me to be able to support myself and my girl, I'd need cahs, which means school, job etc etc. Right now in life, this isnt do-able for me. Its all cause of money, and all cause of society. Part is my fault too yes, but there are alot of other factors in life that add up.

Gottamake it happen, I agree, its just very demotivating if you keep fighting for so long and everytime you fail, get up stronger only to fail again.
I been fighting for 17 years now ( I never count the first 4 years of my life cause I was just a damn kid) But yeah, one gets pretty tired of that.
The past 5 years I been fighting the hardest. 0_0 Just now I hit a new low, and now its time to stop, back away, see what we got thats broken, and see what we can do to fix it.

T_T just so frustrating...I need time...the world doesnt give me time...

(If only society was based on love and not greed) sorry thatwas random but yeah fuck the world...T_T

--Ray

Athriller
19-09-2005, 11:31 PM
Posting on a European Nintendo fansite's message board? :D



Oh you fiesty demon!

But I can assure you, I get upto many other activities away from the land of high speed information. Set sail for albion, we haven't reached eternal bliss yet.

Tphi
19-09-2005, 11:52 PM
I agree. Problem is, I found those people, just cant reach them as it is. Life has been bad for me yes, but its been awesome too, special since I came to deviantart. I learned so many freaking life lessons in so little time, its not even funny. The people I met these past months, I'd die for em, they mean so much to me T_T just so frustrated that they're either out of reach or stuff happens to make me lose em. I need to get outta the country T_T and fast.
Holland is not the right country for me.


That's a lesson I've learned from the internet. I've got to know a couple of people online, who I've talked to everyday.. I always manage to like the people who are furthest away, heh.
I wish you the very best with your long distance thing dude, I really do. I learnt the hard way a couple of years ago they weren't for me though.
But then it sounds like you've got a better girl than I had. :hmm:
All the best for your steps backward to re-evaluate.

Ray Falling
19-09-2005, 11:59 PM
That's a lesson I've learned from the internet. I've got to know a couple of people online, who I've talked to everyday.. I always manage to like the people who are furthest away, heh.
I wish you the very best with your long distance thing dude, I really do. I learnt the hard way a couple of years ago they weren't for me though.
But then it sounds like you've got a better girl than I had. :hmm:
All the best for your steps backward to re-evaluate.

Thank you very much for your kindness. And yeah I agree, its very easy to get attached to people who are far away. I talk to most of my DA friends, even the ones I "met" 7 months ago. These are truely magnificent people. And I truely believe me meeting them was meant to be. I picked up alot this way. It all fits if I look back now. Its almost..perfect.

Luckily my past experiences have thought me that there are risks attached to meeting people online, I;m fully aware of everything which softens the blow when things get rough, which is ace really n_n

I'm sorry to hear yours didnt work out, its a risky thing this long distance stuff, but I'm willing to put all at risk here for this girl. If you're gonna fight for life, might as well give it your all right? I'm not stupid though, and neither is this girl. We arranged everything perfectly, and are prepared for the worst n_n. This is just one thing I want to make in my life. This has tow ork, and it will, I'll make sure n_n

Thanks again, and best of luck to you too

--Ray

ThePigMarcher
20-09-2005, 12:14 AM
I agree that the planet and humankind are in terminal decline at the moment , but really is it worth stressing over. A lot of these things you have little or no control over , so why worry about them.

Maybe that kind of apathy is contributing to it , but I honestly believe in living a life for your own satisfaction and not anybody elses. Human beings as a race are designed to abuse others weaknesses so cannot be trusted , the only person you can truly rely upon is yourself.

My life has been far from easy or happy BUT I wouldn't have had it any other way , as it has given me an appreciation of the happier times and made me who I am today.

Just always remind yourself that there is probably millions of people worldwide in a worse position than you , so there is that to be grateful for.

I respect your religious viewpoint , but TBH I wouldn't put too mauch faith in that ,as the Christian faith with its contradictions is designed to belittle you and gives you guildlines for life that are cetainly not relevant today - and dont forget 90% of the worlds troubles are caused by religion (that tells you something).

No-one knows what the future may hold , so dont waste your life thinking about it - live day to day and for your own satisfaction and you cannot go far wrong.

LukeLee
20-09-2005, 12:20 AM
Ray, your posts have been so vague, that i wasnt sure if you was particularly annoyed with Capitalism or something more personal.

I will try to make this short as i need to go to bed soon.

It sounds like you had some big plan to form a future together with your girlfriend and now its kinda broken down and you feel resentment towards society for the emphasis it places on money (which is so needed for long distance relationships). I have been in a long distance relationship for some time now and im currently having problems with it, my heart is all over the place.

I could tell you that life also has many great things and many wonderful people (you just dont see it on the news and with leaders like Bush you have little hope), however it doesnt seem that you really need an alround hope, your bad words seem more a side-affect of the fustration you're feeling for the plan not working out and fears of not having a future with the one you love.

If things are meant to be and you both really want it then it will happen someway in time. Life can throw you all over the place, but if both you and your partner want a future together, then it will happen in time, maybe just a bit longer than you expected.

It's not always easy, but try and keep your chin up, dont let depression walk into your life and make things much worse. What has happened is only a "set-back", it doesnt mean you now have no chance for what you want.

Okay, i've done my "Mary Poppin's" moment, who knows it might be the one writing depressing messages in a few weeks. PM me if you want to chat.

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 12:22 AM
I agree that the planet and humankind are in terminal decline at the moment , but really is it worth stressing over. A lot of these things you have little or no control over , so why worry about them.

Maybe that kind of apathy is contributing to it , but I honestly believe in living a life for your own satisfaction and not anybody elses. Human beings as a race are designed to abuse others weaknesses so cannot be trusted , the only person you can truly rely upon is yourself.

My life has been far from easy or happy BUT I wouldn't have had it any other way , as it has given me an appreciation of the happier times and made me who I am today.

Just always remind yourself that there is probably millions of people worldwide in a worse position than you , so there is that to be grateful for.

I respect your religious viewpoint , but TBH I wouldn't put too mauch faith in that ,as the Christian faith with its contradictions is designed to belittle you and gives you guildlines for life that are cetainly not relevant today - and dont forget 90% of the worlds troubles are caused by religion (that tells you something).

No-one knows what the future may hold , so dont waste your life thinking about it - live day to day and for your own satisfaction and you cannot go far wrong.


You make a valid point. (multiple even) But its not just that I worry about things, I'm facing them, and they are, RIGHT NOW, at this very moment, intervering with my way of life. Holding me back, blinding me, keeping me from using my full potential.

I agree with you on what you said about religion, though I know many of my friends would leave me for saying this: religion just doenst feel right for me, I guess life turned me into a person like that. I want to give it a try, but I'm just not feeling it yet. I'm gonna keep trying, cause if there is a God then he knows me through and through, and my thoughts have already betrayed me.

Btw, just to clarify things, I'm not worried about global warming and stuff that treathens the earth. I'm just pissed off for always haveing to be in the middle of things, and having to make choices I dont want to make, and hsouldnt have to make. I want to live my life my way, but yeah, if I like it or not, I do live in society, which means I'll have to adapt on some level. But a person with my character....that just doesnt work for me...

Thank you for sharing your view. I like the "live day to day part" my uncle told me that too (whom btw is very religious and seems to benefit from that alot) and some others too, I like it, but I'm also realistic, and I care about having a future.

--Ray

Dante
20-09-2005, 12:28 AM
By reading this topic, I think of this song.

Never seen a blue sky
Yeah I can feel it reaching out
And moving closer
There's something about blue
Asked myself what it's all for
You know the funny thing about it
I couldn't answer
No I couldn't answer

Things have turned a deeper shade of blue
And images that might be real
May be illusion
Keep flashing off and on
Free
Wanna be free
Gonna be free
And move among the stars
You know they really aren't so far
Feels so free
Gotta know free
Please
Don't wake me from the dream
It's really everything it seemed
I'm so free
No black and white in the blue

Everything is clearer now
Life is just a dream you know
That's never ending
I'm ascending

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 12:30 AM
Ray, your posts have been so vague, that i wasnt sure if you was particularly annoyed with Capitalism or something more personal.

I will try to make this short as i need to go to bed soon.

It sounds like you had some big plan to form a future together with your girlfriend and now its kinda broken down and you feel resentment towards society for the emphasis it places on money (which is so needed for long distance relationships). I have been in a long distance relationship for some time now and im currently having problems with it, my heart is all over the place.

I could tell you that life also has many great things and many wonderful people (you just dont see it on the news and with leaders like Bush you have little hope), however it doesnt seem that you really need an alround hope, your bad words seem more a side-affect of the fustration you're feeling for the plan not working out and fears of not having a future with the one you love.

If things are meant to be and you both really want it then it will happen someway in time. Life can throw you all over the place, but if both you and your partner want a future together, then it will happen in time, maybe just a bit longer than you expected.

It's not always easy, but try and keep your chin up, dont let depression walk into your life and make things much worse. What has happened is only a "set-back", it doesnt mean you now have no chance for what you want.

Okay, i've done my "Mary Poppin's" moment, who knows it might be the one writing depressing messages in a few weeks. PM me if you want to chat.


I realize I have been very vague yes, sorry. But no its not that per se. Actually the girl thing is not my main issue, in fact, its the one thing that keeps me going.
I now realize that I need to tell all there is to know about me to make people understand. But I cannot do that.

What I can tell you is that my main issue now is my school life, my life at home, life in a society that demands things of me I donot want, things that prevent me from being happy right now.

I'm seeing a professional soon btw, I hope it will help but I doubt it. Theres alot more going on really. I see that its all too vague ;_; For which I apoligize. But yeah. I have my life story on the net btw, I can link you to it. But I wouldnt want to put this burden on any of you. I'm not seeking for comfort or anything (though your care is much appreciated, all of you) I dont seek for pity and that was never my goal. There are just alot of things about me people should know. But that isnt my goal here. For thsoe interested just message or email me. But keep in mind, knowing my story would mean getting close, and this IS still a games site, where we discuss video games.
I cant and wont expect from people here to want to get close, or even care. I have alot of freinds whom I can talk to. New friends are welcome of course.
But I dont want to put this burden on any of you specially since you dont have to care,

So...thanks to all, lets keep this going.
For those who would like to get to know me better, my life story can be found on the net, messgae me and I'll link you to it. Though be warned, its about 18 pages in Word so you better know what you're getting yerself into.

--Ray

RATM_4_EVA
20-09-2005, 12:36 AM
good and bad is all there is. there is no worst or better. things happen for a reason, people choose how to deal with their problems or, they are advised. seems like there is no one to advise you. well find someone. dont let crap take affect of your life. at least you know there is a problem, if you dont have a solution, find someone who you know has expirence and can relate to. trust me its hard and im not just telling you to "get over it" or "man-up". life is hard, but in the end its all a learning experience. :yes:

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 12:44 AM
good and bad is all there is. there is no worst or better. things happen for a reason, people choose how to deal with their problems or, they are advised. seems like there is no one to advise you. well find someone. dont let crap take affect of your life. at least you know there is a problem, if you dont have a solution, find someone who you know has expirence and can relate to. trust me its hard and im not just telling you to "get over it" or "man-up". life is hard, but in the end its all a learning experience. :yes:

Very true my friend, thanks for that. So far all my solutions failed. So now its time for professional help. I just hope it works.
But ya know, I'm preparing for the worst too. I mean, many people dont have a happy life, its not that unthinkable for me to have a bad life either.

But then again, I still have the strength to fight for my life now. I wont give up!

One bit of advice to all of you, and it may sound obvious but its not really:
Whenever you have a problem, big or small, always talk about it, no matter what! Don't keep it all in, talk to someone, a friend a teacher anyone you can trust, but please for me, don't ever shut and let it all escalate 0_0

You are in control still, now is your time to change things...


Damn I hate it when I do this, I give out advice and then it hits me; I should listen to it myself more T_T;;; curse me!

Aww well, its there, take it. n_n

Serious, thats what helped me make it this far: just always talking about whats bothering you. It helps.

Btw, for anyone who wants to talk about their problems, I'm here for you as well. I may seem down here now, but I'm always here for people who need someone to listen to them. Though I may seem in without hope, I have alot of advice in me, and many times stuff comes out that helps myself too. n_n

You know where to find me.

--Ray

ThePigMarcher
20-09-2005, 12:46 AM
The only way to deal with multiple issues is to deal with things one at a time. I know its a cliche but that really is the only way , otherwise the burden becomes to much. Believe it or not you will get through it (I did - I wont post my life history here , but I have had to deal with a hell of a lot , which may expalin some of my cynacism) , and you will be a better person for it.

You say your friends would leave you for expressing a differing viewpoint . If that is the case then maybe you do not need these sort of people in your life - friends are supposed to enhance your life , whatever your opinions or outlook.

Going back to religion , some while back I read 'The Satanic Bible' ( dont worry , I am not trying to convert you - it suits me though) , and it really taught me a lot about self-empowerment , moreso than any book on Christianity. The satanic faith is not about animal slaughter or devil worship (like some believe) , but reading this really opened my eyes to making myself the most important person in my world.

I honestly think if you start making decisions and choices (one at a time) and for YOUR benefit not any body elses you will come through it.

RATM_4_EVA
20-09-2005, 12:51 AM
I respect your religious viewpoint , but TBH I wouldn't put too mauch faith in that ,as the Christian faith with its contradictions is designed to belittle you and gives you guildlines for life that are cetainly not relevant today - and dont forget 90% of the worlds troubles are caused by religion (that tells you something).


some is true(wher did you get 90%? is that a fact?) but there are alot of good things contributed by religions. im not very religious but the fact that bad things are comming from a belief that is sopposed to be preaching good is very hypocritic. there is little difference from the world and how people behaved 2000 years ago and now. people were nasty, greedy, selfish, kind, loving, giving and it remains today.

Basically: Ying-yang

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 12:53 AM
The only way to deal with multiple issues is to deal with things one at a time. I know its a cliche but that really is the only way , otherwise the burden becomes to much. Believe it or not you will get through it (I did - I wont post my life history here , but I have had to deal with a hell of a lot , which may expalin some of my cynacism) , and you will be a better person for it.

You say your friends would leave you for expressing a differing viewpoint . If that is the case then maybe you do not need these sort of people in your life - friends are supposed to enhance your life , whatever your opinions or outlook.

Going back to religion , some while back I read 'The Satanic Bible' ( dont worry , I am not trying to convert you - it suits me though) , and it really taught me a lot about self-empowerment , moreso than any book on Christianity. The satanic faith is not about animal slaughter or devil worship (like some believe) , but reading this really opened my eyes to making myself the most important person in my world.

I honestly think if you start making decisions and choices (one at a time) and for YOUR benefit not any body elses you will come through it.


I must admit, reading that makes my mind tell me to get away as far as possible. But I will respect you for that anyway, if it helps you have a life you wanted to have then by all means do. Its just not for me. But then, I dont know what is for me...

Yes, some Christian friends would drop me for that, I know you may think: "they arent very good friends then" but thats the thing, they are my closest and I care for them so much, but yeah if they would leave me for that...they should support me anyway..

But I dunno, thats something to worry about later.

And yeah I agree with you, one problem at the time..right now, my first concern is to see a professional and prevent me from having a nervous breakdown which I can feel is getting closer every day. Then school/work/ then love. Once I fix my first issue, all the rest will resolve themselves.

BTW, about religion again. Anything can ring truth really, thats why I dont like religion, cause there is truth in anything, I was raised this way, and so I choose to only read the Bible, and it does ring truth, but then other religious Books contain truth too. Its jst a matter of perspective again. And religion is something very personal obviously.

I made it my religion to be strong on my own...but that didnt wokr out so much either...

Just being me, stuck in the middle of everything...

Just wanna be neutral..and live, love and die

--Ray


sorry for being so random...but this is actually helping me too...

ThePigMarcher
20-09-2005, 12:58 AM
but there are alot of good things contributed by religions

I suppose there is some truth in that - religion does offer comfort to many people and gives a sense of belief and belonging to them , but , I honestly feel that it is mostly used as an excuse for people not to accept responsibilty for their actions.

All this talk of 'god moves in mysterious ways' or 'its god's will' to me smacks of people making excuses for their own shortcomings.

That 90% isn't fact , but I believe if researched the figures would be close to this figure.

I certainly agree with you that people have not changed in 2000 odd years but somehow Chritianity's relevance has dimished.

RATM_4_EVA
20-09-2005, 01:02 AM
All this talk of 'god moves in mysterious ways' or 'its god's will' to me smacks of people making excuses for their own shortcomings.

OMG i HATE when people say that. its like they cant think on their own :indeed:

Smalldude76
20-09-2005, 01:44 AM
Religion is merely a different way of getting people to follow you. Generally in religions like christianity, they uphold morals. As do they in other religions like Buddhism. Thing is that the religions collide and we end up kind of what's going on in Iraq beneath the American invasion. Shiites and Sunni conflicting. Religion is merely a division of the public into different beliefs where some uphold their own above others. I've had several Catholics try and convert me from athiesm, it's really annoying. For if there were a heaven, and God upholds respect, surely they would be punished for disrespecting my belief and imposing their own upon me? But yet it's meant to be spread to unionise the world or something. ah the contradictions of religion...


I agree. Love is awesome. And thats part of my problem. I have found love, and she loves me back. I'm in a working long distance relationship. And that makes me sooo freaking happy. I love my girl more than anything. But the one thing that can make me truely happy is to be with her.


Glad to hear that your girlfriend loves you back :) The one I love doesn't believe that love is possible through a computer even though we'd met for nearly a week (she didn't know I did then...). Even so she says there just isn't a 'click' which is disappointing...but I cannot force someone to love me. I wouldn't want to. Again, congratulations that you have someone who loves you :). About the problems, if they're dealt with now, you hopefully won't have to face them on later in life. But I do see what you're saying about the trap society has set. It's constant contact and we cannot live away from the world, always a part of it.

Platty
20-09-2005, 02:17 AM
as for the planet we are just totally messing it up, its ok for us and a few more generations but in the future its just gonna be so messed up that a lot of places will be uninhabitable.

no one will listen tho, and to be honest it probably too late! countries like us (england) and america are now starting to realise and reducing pollution, recycling etc but countries such as india and china are just starting to boom in industrialisation and car production and we cant just tell them to reduce the pollution when we have been doing it for years and remember china has a very high population, so no matter what we do the planet has got no chance in a couple of centries time.

recycle kids.

as for religion, its the cause of the majority of the worlds problems! past present and future religion causes hate, hurt, war and death it should be done away with i tell you, the only religion is science! thats what created the earth and us none of that other bull doo doo.

zatoichi
20-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Dude, you guys should get into emo, you'd love it, it's all about how life and the world are shit. ;)

Seriously though, if you think life sucks that much, stop whinging about it and do something about it. You'll get much better results.

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 02:20 PM
Dude, you guys should get into emo, you'd love it, it's all about how life and the world are shit. ;)

Seriously though, if you think life sucks that much, stop whinging about it and do something about it. You'll get much better results.

Though i value everyones opinion. That was a real shitty remark cause obviously you havent read it all, or maybe you have and just dont understand it all.

This has nothing to do with emo or whatever crap.

You think I havent tried? You think thats what I'm doing here, whine? If you were in my shoes or any of the other people who had it rough you'd be like this too.

Life sucks sometimes, most of the times, and I keep fighting to make it better, but I'm tired of it going good for a couple of days and then shit happens again and it goes bad, and argh having to fight again.

Dont say I never did anything about this, cause trust me I have tried almost EVERYTHING.

Sorry to sound harsh here but this just pissed me off.

--Ray

MunKy
20-09-2005, 03:20 PM
I have very strong views on life and religion but i will keep them short. First of all, Life isnt enjoyable. I dont know if it ever has been for past generations or for humanities first incarnations but I know that right now it isnt and probably wont be for our decendants. Life is a bitch slap, take it and punch back because knowing that youve managed to do something with a tonne of crap on your back is awesome.
Second, I believe that society is and always will be the most flawed of human conceptions. We have a society but nobody belongs anymore. The people that appear to are husks of human beings and lost themselves when trying to "fit in".(I'll leave it at that because explaining the whole thing with other "groups" would take too long. If you want to know more you can ask).
Thirdly, Religion is the cause of the greatest evils and spawned modern hate culture. How many times have evil people been let off because "they did it for religion"? The crusades, Al queda, george bush(with other reasons too), the list goes on as you look back through history. Religion has also made people ignorant. I respect those with religious views but not people who follow blindly without questioning obvious mistruths. This goes with all religions. I have the most contempt for the catholic religion. What started as "explanations for the unknown" or genuine spiritual belief has turned into a franchise. Also while I think about it, Religion made the capitalist culture aswell.
You cannot change any of these things but you dont have to accept them either. Unfortunately we cannot change our position as slaves to hierachy but you can ignore their morals and ethics. You are A Person, not defined by what place you have in their grouping system. Do what YOU want in life and not what has been predefined. Sorry if I have made you or anybody more negative but this is my view and wont change and neither should yours unless you want it to. Apologies for length and vagueness in areas also but it could have been a hell of a lot longer if I went into more detail.

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 05:19 PM
I have very strong views on life and religion but i will keep them short. First of all, Life isnt enjoyable. I dont know if it ever has been for past generations or for humanities first incarnations but I know that right now it isnt and probably wont be for our decendants. Life is a bitch slap, take it and punch back because knowing that youve managed to do something with a tonne of crap on your back is awesome.
Second, I believe that society is and always will be the most flawed of human conceptions. We have a society but nobody belongs anymore. The people that appear to are husks of human beings and lost themselves when trying to "fit in".(I'll leave it at that because explaining the whole thing with other "groups" would take too long. If you want to know more you can ask).
Thirdly, Religion is the cause of the greatest evils and spawned modern hate culture. How many times have evil people been let off because "they did it for religion"? The crusades, Al queda, george bush(with other reasons too), the list goes on as you look back through history. Religion has also made people ignorant. I respect those with religious views but not people who follow blindly without questioning obvious mistruths. This goes with all religions. I have the most contempt for the catholic religion. What started as "explanations for the unknown" or genuine spiritual belief has turned into a franchise. Also while I think about it, Religion made the capitalist culture aswell.
You cannot change any of these things but you dont have to accept them either. Unfortunately we cannot change our position as slaves to hierachy but you can ignore their morals and ethics. You are A Person, not defined by what place you have in their grouping system. Do what YOU want in life and not what has been predefined. Sorry if I have made you or anybody more negative but this is my view and wont change and neither should yours unless you want it to. Apologies for length and vagueness in areas also but it could have been a hell of a lot longer if I went into more detail.



Actually thats a very very good point. And I do agree. ;_; And I just started talking to a professional which helps...
I need some time to "disarm" the bomb that is myself. Then I'll start seeing whats left and what I can do.

Thanks for sharing your view (and its actually my old view on this too) And no need to explain the groups part cause I understand that very well T_T damn groups. eheh anyway. Thanks that helped!

--Ray

Haver
20-09-2005, 05:31 PM
I would prescribe laughter!

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 05:33 PM
I would prescribe laughter!

n_n I laugh alot yes, but in the end of the day, jokes dont solve actual problems.

But it makes things easier yes.

--Ray

Sarka
20-09-2005, 05:54 PM
At the present moment I am truely happy.

Mainly because of friends, I have been hanging around with lots of friends lately and it makes me think that life is worth it all. Dunno why. Work and school, sure you have to do it, doesn't that make the good times seem really worth it all.

Religion is depressing. So I don't think about it. Easy! i have been very depressed about it before, but now I believe that it doesn't exist, and if it doesn't, I can't wait til I die and see that great look on my face!

Offerman
20-09-2005, 06:33 PM
This is a rather heavy thread, but the best advice is probably what The3rdChild said - and thats go with the flow. Seriously if you do this you really cannot go wrong.

I used to worry that I'd never find a girl, and to be honest this was my only long term concern. I got invited to a party and thought well I am mobile, there will be weed there, and it was a Friday - so I knew I'd be in a happy mood. I went along, and low and behold I got with a girl. Now she might have been a lesbian, and it meant nothing to her but it was a huge learning curve for me, and showed me that I am indeed capable of pulling a girl. Next time I know it will be with a girl thats interested in making a serious go of it. That could be months away, infact it probably will be - but I don't care, because I know its possible.

I know almost anything is possible but you need to remember everybody has to start somewhere.

zatoichi
20-09-2005, 10:58 PM
Ray dude, don't worry. I was once in your position. My post wasn't a dig at you, it was me speaking from experience. Don't think about what's bad, think about what can be good, and what you have to do to achieve it.

And I was just joking about the emo you know ;)

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 11:01 PM
Ray dude, don't worry. I was once in your position. My post wasn't a dig at you, it was me speaking from experience. Don't think about what's bad, think about what can be good, and what you have to do to achieve it.

And I was just joking about the emo you know ;)

I apoligize for my reaction. I overreacted and I could have handled that in a nicer way.

Thank you. And yes you are right, it's best to keep thinking about the nice things..there are alot. And soon I will decide to take a long leave of absence from school. I'll take a year or some to get rest, see a professional, and just find out what I want and how I'm gonna do that.

Again, I apoligze. Take care

--Ray

zatoichi
20-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Don't worry about it. I myself could have been a bit more layed back about it, but the more direct and assertive you are, the more you will achieve your goal, I find. Apologies about that.

Ray Falling
20-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Don't worry about it. I myself could have been a bit more layed back about it, but the more direct and assertive you are, the more you will achieve your goal, I find. Apologies about that.

Apoligies accepted n_n

ViPeR
20-09-2005, 11:18 PM
Will things get better? Why should they? Why even care?

Don't hang onto myths and fairy tales, take what you can get and run. It's what I do, and I'm living life in the fast lane!

Just concentrate on giving yourself the greatest treatment possible, and let go of the world around you. Things will go the way they must, so make the most of it.

Basically what he said. This world has turned into an ugly, shit ass version of itself. Just make sure you enjoy your life, whatever the cost. You only get one shot at it, why make it depressing.

paperwario II
06-10-2005, 01:25 PM
it'd pretty dark reading rays stuff

i'm not sure i read everything..it flew away

maybe boolean algebra is your thing? i don't know. typing random words on the internet seems good therapy. if only i ocudl get off the couch to type.
if you paint something with your mouth and it looks as good as something someone painted by hand, does it make a noise?

Cheapshot
06-10-2005, 02:18 PM
Depressingly, I agree with most of that -- to the government we're just small cogs' in society, we must do what we can to break free from this, grab your dreams by the horns and don't let go.

I've had a relatively simple life so far: Go to work, Play videogames/ go out and skate and occasionally go to the pub afterwards, it's become a neverending cycle. I don't think I have a rough life like most people but am I truly happy?

Heck no!

How can we be truly happy?

The world is becoming a much more sinister place; Terrorists run rampant, People are being randomly murdered in the streets, not many people have respect for their fellow human being anymore. Society is breaking away at it's foundation and the "higher-ups" couldn't give a shit.

The only way I can think of being truly happy is fall in love and do what the fuck you want and let no one hold you back. We're only here for a short while so don't ponder about things like this and do everything you can to live the life you want, just don't give up whatever you do. I am going to do all I can to live life to the fullest and you should too.

Just try to forget about the pain the world is going through.

Bruce Lee -- "Don't think, feel". :heh:

Alterego
06-10-2005, 02:40 PM
i agree with him to him! and cheapshot u have a point we do have to live life to the fulest.

Ray Falling
06-10-2005, 02:40 PM
Depressingly, I agree with most of that -- to the government we're just small cogs' in society, we must do what we can to break free from this, grab your dreams by the horns and don't let go.

I've had a relatively simple life so far: Go to work, Play videogames/ go out and skate and occasionally go to the pub afterwards, it's become a neverending cycle. I don't think I have a rough life like most people but am I truly happy?

Heck no!

How can we be truly happy?

The world is becoming a much more sinister place; Terrorists run rampant, People are being randomly murdered in the streets, not many people have respect for their fellow human being anymore. Society is breaking away at it's foundation and the "higher-ups" couldn't give a shit.

The only way I can think of being truly happy is fall in love and do what the fuck you want and let no one hold you back. We're only here for a short while so don't ponder about things like this and do everything you can to live the life you want, just don't give up whatever you do. I am going to do all I can to live life to the fullest and you should too.

Just try to forget about the pain the world is going through.

Bruce Lee -- "Don't think, feel". :heh:


Agreed. you make a good point. things ahve gotten better and worse since I posted this tread, mostly worse. I'm in a new low now.
But I have great friends to talk to about this stuff, and that makes me happy even though it dont solve problems per se.

I try to move on cause I want to for my girl, I love her so much and shes worth the pain. But sometimes the one thing you want, you cant have cause of all the other things you thought you'd left behind and dealth with

*sigh* that probably dont even make sense but thats okay.
maybe soon I'll have solutions, maybe not, I enjoy my days i guess, untill I wake up to reality...

BeerMonkey
06-10-2005, 03:05 PM
im in a cheery mood at mo and if i read ur post i just know by the end im gunna be depressed so im not gunna read it im sorry

Ray Falling
06-10-2005, 03:06 PM
im in a cheery mood at mo and if i read ur post i just know by the end im gunna be depressed so im not gunna read it im sorry

so why post here?

paperwario II
07-10-2005, 10:58 AM
cause it's sterile and i like the taste

Athriller
07-10-2005, 06:41 PM
Depressingly, I agree with most of that -- to the government we're just small cogs' in society, we must do what we can to break free from this

What? Of course you are, do you really think anyone's of any great importance? Nobody's lying to you here, do you really think the Government can cater for every last person? If I was in the head office, I'd be damned if I had to give two shits about every last person.

It's no big hit or a conspiracy. It's by no means a bad thing, it's the truth, just accept it. Without the cogs of society we'd probably be in a wasteland.

Offerman
07-10-2005, 07:01 PM
im in a cheery mood at mo and if i read ur post i just know by the end im gunna be depressed so im not gunna read it im sorry

So visa-vee, your post was spam. And if it continues I will just go around deleting them.

Gaijin von Snikbah
07-10-2005, 09:00 PM
There is no evil.

God has to care for the Lion, and the Gaselle. The hunter and the prey.

Things are better now, than for 1000 years ago. In 1000 years from now, things will be even better. A 1000 years is nothing in the big perspective.

God is eternal, and you are loosing faith.

Ray Falling
08-10-2005, 02:52 PM
There is no evil.

God has to care for the Lion, and the Gaselle. The hunter and the prey.

Things are better now, than for 1000 years ago. In 1000 years from now, things will be even better. A 1000 years is nothing in the big perspective.

God is eternal, and you are loosing faith.

Well, I cant judge of that if things are better now than 1000 years ago, simply cause I wanst there, had no life then, so I cant possibly compare a life like that to mine now.
I do know that it doesnt matter if someone has it worse, it matters that my treshold is reached, and I am facing difficult times, too difficult for me, yet for someones else maye easy to handle with. You cant compare people's problems, simply cause each and everyone has their own limit, their own treshold.

Yes I am loosing faith, because the constant mind f*ucking, I can talk to all my Christian friends and then get all cheary and happy and "praise the Lord"
but then simply talking to non-Christian friends can get me right out of it.
See? Its that simple. I'm too easy. I can be manipulated too easily, and I dont like that.
I would love to believe thinsg will get better when I'm in heaven etc etc, but I don;t things to be better later, I need them to be better NOW, cause thats where I am, NOW, and here.

;_; Its a delicate matter still. I would love to be religious really, but I'm just not feeling it and simply cause I grew up, being raised a Christian, it feels like its just..whats the word?

Well let me put it this way. I can tell you the apples over here are purple and you wouldnt believe me. Now...had I told you this from the day that you were born. For 20 years long, you'd bound to believe it. Not cause you seen the purple apples, but simply cause they been telling you they're purple for so long.

So see, if I'm gonna be a Christian, I'd want to find God myself, and I wouldnt want people to force me into it, or talk me out of it.
Its hard. If you ask me do I believe in God, then I cant say no or yes.

I would go for yes simply cause I was raised that way and dont know better. But I dunno, I cant say no cause of that either.
And maybe I do believe, I just dont agree with everything thats happened and will happen.

0_0 sorry for ranting, thats about it I guess.

This would be a good time for alitt;e update maybe. I'm seeing a professional now, it's still hard, I dont like it much. At first it was cool but now I'm having second thoughts.
Id want to run away more than anything, yet that doesnt appear to be an option T_T.

I try to have fun everyday but its hard. Being very tired and all. Games dont cheer me up that much anymore and days just pass by slowly.
Funny, all I want is to be with my girl, but I cant untill I solve all this crap...

Aww well...

Thanks everybody.

--Ray

mario114
08-10-2005, 04:56 PM
It's not easy beign a cristain, but be happy you have christain friends, non of my friends are christains, well a couple would like to say they are, as i go to a catholic school, but in reality they think they are because the were crisened, and as well as being non-practicing, don't even know the differnce between one faith and anounther. As you mentioned you have to find God for yourself, this can be through prayer, quite time, or reading the bible, as for the world getting worse, well it's ganna happen, before it gets better.

Ray Falling
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
It's not easy beign a cristain, but be happy you have christain friends, non of my friends are christains, well a couple would like to say they are, as i go to a catholic school, but in reality they think they are because the were crisened, and as well as being non-practicing, don't even know the differnce between one faith and anounther. As you mentioned you have to find God for yourself, this can be through prayer, quite time, or reading the bible, as for the world getting worse, well it's ganna happen, before it gets better.

This is true. And I really find it just stupid that being religious or non-religious creates such a rift in society as well. I mean, you just said "be happy that you have Christian friends" I hear that alot from people but to me its just the most normal thing in the world. I hear how Christians are being prosecuted and stuff but those effects cannot be seen here. (where I am that is)
I mean, we're still all the same. And I have many friends, but just cause they're not religious doesnt mean they're not the nicest people I ever met.

But I also have Christian friends who wouldnt want to be my friend if I wasnt religious. I find that narrow minded. Especially since you build up a friendship for so long and then when they hear about how I feel about all this, all those days/years of friendship mean nothing???

hmm but I'm getting abit off topic here sorry.

But yes I realize prayer and such will help me ;_; but it's hard cause I know it takes alot of time and I need results fast T_T since life has got me cornered sorta ;_;

Hmm I'm gonna do alot of thinking on this...