[E3 2010] New Design Xbox 360 - 16th July - £200

[Ashley]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/sany1478.jpg

50% more PS3-like, 50% more run over by an 18 wheeler.

Shipping today! (in America) Includes 250 GB HD, built in WiFi.

One free for every audience member. Gates has obviously been watching Ellen.

[gaggle64]

It's a fugly looking thing, but I suppose you can't argue with it if you're still looking to pick up an Xbox for the first time. Stores will be paying you to take the old models away from them now though surely?

[Wesley]

The same price... now... considering it includes a bigger HDD and WiFi then...

I dunno.

It could be justified in comparison to the XBox 360 as it is now.

But this thing is now being directly targeted at the Wii audience.

So... they now have to buy this (which is more expensive) PLUS the Kinect to match the Wii.

Also... no price announced for Kinect?

[Retro_Link]

Yeah, I'll prob get one of these, as I don't have a 360.

Just a bit of a shame it looks like someone sat on it!

[Cube]

Also... no price announced for Kinect?

According to the pre-conference talks, it seems that Microsoft haven't decided on a "Sell it as high as you can" or a "Get everyone to buy it" approach.

[Ashley]

Original Xbox | New Xbox
http://www.nypost.com/pagesixmag/issues/20081012/images/Features/hendricks/6.jpg http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/miniscule-mischa_334x694.jpg

Everything is better explained using celebrities obviously :heh:

[Platty]

More pics:

http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27399

[McPhee]

If it's really that much smaller I'll buy one, short on space under the TV and I'm kinda worried that the 360 is a bit too wedged in. Plus, my warranty ends at the end of the year.

[Oli1983uk]

maybe a spare for my bedroom! just depending on the price when it comes to the uk

[Cube]

My HDD recently died (so I'm back on 20GB) so a snazzier console seems like a good idea.

[Shorty]

Why are people calling it the "Slim"? Xbox never referred to it as that... it is smaller both ways.

I wonder if you will get one if your Elite RRoDs...

[ReZourceman]

I need my chunky 360. It gives the extra inche that my PS3 needs to stand on so the HDMI cable reaches my TV. :D

[Shorty]

Yeah ReZ we get it. You don't use your 360 except as a stand for your PS3 so you can fit your dick in it. You can stop going on about it now.

[Daft]

I think it looks great. I would have picked one up if there was also a price drop. It is funny how it looks more like a PS3 (The older shiny one, not the ugly new one).

[ThePigMarcher]

maybe a spare for my bedroom! just depending on the price when it comes to the uk

Apparently, £199 and (re)launches here July 16th.

[Ten10]

Apparently, £199 and (re)launches here July 16th.

Yep confirmed on their twitter account.

New Slim Xbox 360 console will be available in Europe on July 16th.

[Wesley]

So I'm thinking Microsoft are waiting for a price-drop until Kinect is out.

Otherwise I don't see how the Wii audience will be bought with a £320 kit plus games.

[Nolan]

I want it just for the wireless.

[Daft]

So I'm thinking Microsoft are waiting for a price-drop until Kinect is out.

Otherwise I don't see how the Wii audience will be bought with a £320 kit plus games.

That would be quite a smart move.

[Wesley]

Yeah I'm thinking that their plan.

That way they get all the geeks buying it for buying sake, and a price-drop for the casual audience.

[Platty]

pre order on play who are calling it "slim".

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/15570092/Xbox-360-Slim-with-250GB-HDD/Product.html?P36=NFYKT5&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals

[Ashley]

Why are people calling it the "Slim"? Xbox never referred to it as that... it is smaller both ways.


New Slim Xbox 360 console will be available in Europe on July 16th.

CHANGE THE TOPIC TITLE BACK NOW! :p

Blurry spec sheet:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2gsh2jo.jpg

[Cube]

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/15570092/Xbox-360-Slim-with-250GB-HDD/Product.html

£199.99
16th July.

Edit: Link was posted earlier.

[Ike]

No more noise is a big plus, though I'm not planning on getting one any time soon.

[ReZourceman]

Yeah ReZ we get it. You don't use your 360 except as a stand for your PS3 so you can fit your dick in it. You can stop going on about it now.

Stealing jokes from Comedy Rainbow? Low man. Real low.

[S.C.G]

What I want to know is, will I be able to transfer all my data from my original Xbox Hard-Drive to the new Xbox using a transfer kit... if not then, I'm out.

[Cube]

What I want to know is, will I be able to transfer all my data from my original Xbox Hard-Drive to the new Xbox using a transfer kit... if not then, I'm out.

If you can't, then you can use any empty USB device to transfer stuff.

[S.C.G]

If you can't, then you can use any empty USB device to transfer stuff.

The thing is though... there are some files that can't be copied or moved I thought? except in the instance of using a transfer kit.

[Cube]

The thing is though... there are some files that can't be copied or moved I thought? except in the instance of using a transfer kit.

Some saves can't be copied, but they can be moved.

[JonSt]

Can't believe how ugly it looks. Good if they reduced the noise as Sony couldn't manage it with the Slim. It is quieter than the old PS3 but I can still hear it pretty clearly. There about 4 years too late on the built in wi-fi, better late than never I guess.

[Oli1983uk]

update to the Console details:


Touch sensitive on/off and eject buttons (like the PS3)

• "Much quieter"
• 250GB internal hard drive, which is still swappable.
• A custom Kinect port (not the standard USB port)
• There are five USB ports now, with three in the back and two in the front
• AV cable included, an HDMI and optical audio
• Different power supply
• External Xbox 360 hard drives and memory units are NOT compatible with the new Xbox
• Other accessories are
• Internal components that are changed: two small fans changed into one large fan for quieter operation, 45nm integrated CPU and GPU

The controller is slightly changed, with a chrome Xbox button, the Xbox logo on the back, and squared off shoulder buttons, which don't change gameplay but give it a more angular aesthetic feel. The angularity is also evident in the Xbox 360 itself, which Microsoft said that they updated to match the look of modern AV equipment, which are usually black and glossy and chrome.

To transfer your hard drive from your old console, you can either use a standard old 16GB USB drive and do it chunk by chunk, or you can use the old hard drive transfer cable (it works with the new internal hard drive). Also, you can now purchase that cable separately for $20, if you can find one to bum off of from your friends.

As for the hard drive, it's easily removable and is quite small—much smaller than the current external lump hard drive. You can't use this with older Xbox 360s, and you can't use older Xbox 360s' hard drives with this.

There is a Kinect-specific connector in the back, in addition to the 3 standard USB2 ports already there. The Kinect connector is just a USB port with more power, so you don't need a separate power supply like you would if you used Kinect with an older Xbox 360.

Extra pics:

http://gizmodo.com/5563191/the-new-xbox-360-in-person-so-glossy-it-hurts/gallery/

[gaggle64]

Stealing jokes from Comedy Rainbow? Low man. Real low.

Comedy Rainbow... has jokes?

[Daft]

What's a comedy rainbow?

[S.C.G]

'To transfer your hard drive from your old console, you can either use a standard old 16GB USB drive and do it chunk by chunk, or you can use the old hard drive transfer cable (it works with the new internal hard drive).'

Sold.

[Dante]

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Hands-On: (http://www.destructoid.com/e3-10-unboxing-the-newly-redesigned-xbox-360-176398.phtml&mainnav=Top+stories)

When they say it's "whisper quiet," they're not kidding. Microsoft has moved from two smaller fans to one larger for what it says are "improved acoustics." When you turn the console on and it remains inactive or you're just browsing the menus, it's absolutely noiseless. Even with your ear right up to grill that cover's one of the console's fans, it's hardly noticeable.

Putting a disc in and letting it go to work is a slightly different story. It's unlikely most gamers will notice the disc noise in the hard drive, but if you listen close enough, you'll be able to hear it working a bit. But regardless, it's a huge leap forward from the previous iteration of the console, which often sounded like a jet taking off even when it was sitting idle.

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The new Arcade SKU is coming in "late summer". (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/06/14/microsoft-talks-new-arcade-xbox-sku-purple-boxes-and-transfer-kits.aspx)
XBOX 360 S ARCADE
In the U.S. we're going to clear out the current Elites and Arcades with a $50 price cut [$250 and $150 respectively]. This is basically the replacement for the Elite. We are going to have a replacement for the $199 Arcade. That'll be sometime in late summer.

WILL IT HAVE A HARD DRIVE?
We're not releasing all of the specs on it, but there will be a $199 version of this form factor.

[ReZourceman]

Comedy Rainbow... has jokes?

Well....collections of words who's intention is to bring happiness or laughter to people.


I'm a joy designer.

[flameboy]

So only just seen all this due to no internets.... its fugly but I'm slightly tempted....Going round to Dads tonight so got internet for the rest of E3 tonight

[dr4hkon]

Hm, looks interesting. But I don't know if it's really worth upgrading. Maybe if I can sell my old Xbox 360 I'll get the new one.

[Murr]

it does look quite sexual!

i think i'll be getting one.

as for Kinect... repeat of Nintendo's e3 in 2006 isnt it?

[Shorty]

Stealing jokes from Comedy Rainbow? Low man. Real low. Nice try, but nobody is going to believe I have ever watched an episode of Comedy Rainbow :heh:

[Jimbob]

Only way i'd buy one is if my current one decides to melt like the model before it did.

Leaked!!!! - Microsoft release making of footage for the new slim 360

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[ipaul]

Only way i'd buy one is if my current one decides to melt like the model before it did.

Leaked!!!! - Microsoft release making of footage for the new slim 360

_HnIcVrtUGc&feature=related

Some gamer humour is awful.

I think it looks quite nice but it just doesn't seem small enough for my liking. After a redesign that was the most they could do with it? I guess it's more about the new features though. The real design test of this new iteration will be whether it can last more than 6 months or not.

[will']

Overall it's pretty disappointing to be honest. They're trying to pull in casual gamers and then they release a new console that looks like a miniaturised gaming pc from 1997.

I'll buy one as i want to try natal properly at home and my current 360 is broken, but it will definitely be hidden behind a cupboard.

[Ashley]

Game trade in dealios (the price listed is the price you would pay after trading in the console listed):

XBOX 360 ELITE £99.99

XBOX 360 60GB PRO £119.99

XBOX 360 20GB PRO £139.99

PS3 SLIM 120 GB £24.99

PS3 80GB £59.99

PS3 40GB £69.99

NINTENDO Wii £124.99

[Dyson]

Awesome - how did you get this info before me?! I've been waiting for it :heh:

I'd get £60 off by trading in my current 360? Hmm.. tempting.

[McPhee]

Not sure I can quite justify £120 for a less noisy console. Will probably wait for a special dealio at work instead.

[Daft]

Definitely trading in my 20 GB 360. Is there any way to transfer my stuff though? I only have an 8 GB USB stick. Reckon that's alright?

How do I go about wiping everything off my 360? Is it easy?

I wonder if I can get anything for the Wi-Fi adapter too...

[Mundi]

For save file and profiles? More then enough.
You can download all arcade games easily after putting your account on the new console.

[Daft]

Ah, cool. And is there a format 360 thing so I don't leave any details on my 360?

Aren't some saves locked? I still haven't completed Mass Effect 2.

[Mundi]

Not really seen any other way to format except the obvious way.

Have not heard about saves being locked, but I know that a lot of games have saves locked to the profile so the only way to access them is when your signed in.

[Cube]

Be sure to write down your serial number so you can sort out the license transfer.

Also, locked game (like Fable 2 and Mass Effect 2) saves can't be copied, but they can be moved (so it'll remove it from the HDD when you put it on the stick).



Oh, and it's completely impossible for the new model to get the RROD error...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/differences-360-pred.jpg

...they've removed the red lights.

[Dyson]

Ah, cool. And is there a format 360 thing so I don't leave any details on my 360?

Yeah, go to Memory Settings, and hover over the drive and press Y. It'll ask you for your console serial code, enter it and hit A and it'll go ahead and format it. I've done it countless times now at HMV/Game :heh:

Aren't some saves locked? I still haven't completed Mass Effect 2.
I havn't heard of this being the case, but I think if you use "Move" instead of "Copy" it'll be fine.

Definitely trading in my 20 GB 360. Is there any way to transfer my stuff though? I only have an 8 GB USB stick. Reckon that's alright?

I plan on using a transfer kit, alternatively you could store it online using Microsoft's Airdrive or whatever it is. Get the data on a USB stick, upload to the net, rinse and repeat til your hard drive is copied. Then just copy it right back!


I wonder if I can get anything for the Wi-Fi adapter too...

If you're looking for a decent amount for it, sell it nooow. Or at the very least before the new Xbox comes out. If I remember I'll find out how much you can trade it in for at GAME tomorrow. : peace:

[Cube]

I plan on using a transfer kit

But if you're trading it in then you won't have both consoles at the same time, which means you can't use the transfer kit.

[Dyson]

But if you're trading it in then you won't have both consoles at the same time, which means you can't use the transfer kit.

Mmhmm, I'll keep my HD for a day. I'm sure I can swing it with my manager :heh:

[Daft]

Cool! Thanks for the help guys!

The tiny HDD, noise and threat of RROD really killed my 360 love so I'm hoping this little upgrade will rectify that. :smile:

[Dyson]

Great - hope to see you on XBL soon then! :D

[Ashley]

Awesome - how did you get this info before me?! I've been waiting for it :heh:

I'd get £60 off by trading in my current 360? Hmm.. tempting.

Secretly I never left... :heh:



I wonder if I can get anything for the Wi-Fi adapter too...

Yeah although only expect £10-15 tops.

[Daft]

Great - hope to see you on XBL soon then! :D

Fingers crossed, on the 16th of next month!

Yeah although only expect £10-15 tops.

Pretty much what I was expecting. It's useless otherwise so I might as well.

[Dante]

http://www.castle-vidcons.com/comics/2010/06/cv0091.jpg

[Nolan]

I wonder if I can get anything for the Wi-Fi adapter too...

Over here Gamestop has the adaptors listed as $40 and $50 (g/b and N respectively).

Which is as much as a 120GB HDD ($40).

I can get the slim down to 135-165(depending on if I swipe a 20GB HDD from a mostly broken 360 that isn't mine). Still a little steep, and the deal only goes into the second week of July. I'm not willing to pay quite that much just to get built-in wireless (my laptop handles it fine) and a quieter system.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Daft; would you consider selling me the wifi adapter for £10? :'( Pwease?

[Daft]

I would but I'm so stunningly lazy I'd rather just trade it in with the 360. If you're going to the KNEE meet and I end up coming that'd be easiest. Although, I'm gonna haggle and say £15? :heh:


...since I feel utterly ripped off by Microsoft for their RRP. :nono:

[Dyson]

I checked out Wifi Adapter trade in prices for you today Daft - £20 store credit or £15 cash for the original white one, or £25 credit £20 cash for the new Wireless N Adapter. : peace:

[Daft]

Oooo, well in that case I'm sorry Jay. I'm a trading.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Well gee, thanks dyson :P

[Shorty]

Where's the no-thanks button? :heh:

[JonSt]

Well gee, thanks dyson :P


You should have deleted the post, than banned him :heh:

[Dyson]

:D :D :D :D :D

[nightwolf]

Oh, and it's completely impossible for the new model to get the RROD error...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/differences-360-pred.jpg

...they've removed the red lights.

To me that just screams 'Yes it will break, but you won't be able to tell'. But maybe I'm just being incredibly cynical of microsoft.

I'm still not caught on buying the new model, my current xbox works just fine and the new stuff for the xbox I'm not truly fussed about.

I'll wait til one of you guys buys one and then you can issue me a verdict :D

[Ike]

To me that just screams 'Yes it will break, but you won't be able to tell'. But maybe I'm just being incredibly cynical of microsoft.


The green lights flash if there's an error so now it's the GROD or FGROD.

[Ganepark32]

I'm trying to decide whether to wait the couple of weeks and pick up the new model or just get an Elite to replace my broken 360. The price will go down no the Elite in a few weeks so there's some more incentive there to go that way and I'm not sure if the 3 year warranty for console failure will extend to this new model (doubt it).

There's also the issue of me transferring data from my 20Gb HDD to this new model as games like Mass Effect 2 and B:BC2 may throw up some issues when trying to transfer over the save files for them because of the one use code, although I'll still be using my current XBL account.

Not really sure to be honest. The fact that when running it's incredibly quiet would suggest the overheating issues that lead to the RRoD have been minimized, if not completely sorted. In no real hurry to get another 360 so I guess I'll have to think about this one. I'll just pass away the time while making the decision trying to get a refund for the 2 months of XBL I haven't been able to use because of the RRoD.

[MATtheHAT]

Pre-ordered one from GAME. Trading in my old Elite, and with whats on a gift card and a small deposit paid, I will have to pay £20 on launch day.

[Aimless]

I'm somewhat tempted to get one, even though I really don't need one. The main attractions are the reduction in noise and larger HDD — I currently have a 60GB, but I have to keep uninstalling games — which would cost me around £80 if I bought one separately. This might seem a bit silly but I also really need a new controller as the analogues on my current ones have pretty much had it, my horse in RDR having a tendency to slowly meander off cliffs, so that would be another £20-30 'saved'.

Have GameStation's trade-in prices been brought in to parity with GAME's?

[nightwolf]

The green lights flash if there's an error so now it's the GROD or FGROD.

A more positive approach to when something breaks?

I couldn't afford to spend £200 for now, but I imagine if this version of the xbox doesn't have it's own series of issues that in the future I may buy one.

[Shorty]

What I read was that the power symbol in the centre goes red in an error.

[ipaul]

Tempted very much to trade in my current 360 and get one of these. Makes sense on a lot of levels - I need wireless, more memory, could do with a quieter console and I'm worried my console will break just after it's soon to be expired warranty runs out. It's looked a little jumpy already. Hmm. I have an elite console, but with only a 20GB hard drive. So that would be £140 it would likely cost me.

However, if I trade in my 20GB hard drive for £15 exchange at CEX, I can buy a 120GB hard drive for £25. Thus making the total spent £125, as the console would then be £100. So £125 for all that extra memory, wireless, a quieter console and essentially an extended warranty. Might have to wait until the end of July and that pay slip, but I think it would probably be worth it.

[King_V]

For the built in wifi alone, I would get this. Thats the only issue I had when dealing with the 360 - buying that never-going-down-in-price wireless transmitter thingy (£40-£60)

[Dan Dare]

the noise reduction is great news: can't afford multiple installs on my piddly 20gb and that's the only way to shut my machine up.

Can't afford it though :(

[Ashley]

Apparently a slimmed down (in terms of what's inside the box so presumably smaller hard drive) version will come out later this year too, at $100 less (making it $200/£135).

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a230879/ms-to-offer-cut-price-slim-360-this-year.html

[nightwolf]

Apparently a slimmed down (in terms of what's inside the box so presumably smaller hard drive) version will come out later this year too, at $100 less (making it $200/£135).

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a230879/ms-to-offer-cut-price-slim-360-this-year.html


If it has internal wifi (the slim down version) then I'd be more likely to get it.

[Ike]

What I read was that the power symbol in the centre goes red in an error.

Yeah your right, what I heard was wrong then.

Apparently the New 360 will display a warning message and shut itself down to prevent it from over heating too much.

[Shorty]

If it has internal wifi (the slim down version) then I'd be more likely to get it.
I'm sure it will, I think the article is probably getting it's wires crossed and there will just be a version with a smaller hard drive (but the same new shape and wi-fi) in time for Christmas.

[Ashley]

Yeah that's what I'd imagine it would be like as it says it will be geared towards Kinect too and I'm guessing they're going with the philosophy "casual users want Kinect and are less likely to use a lot of hard drive space"

[nightwolf]

See that's more likely to get me to buy one, the only reason I would prefer to change is for less noise, smaller system over all (as in asthetic size) and wifi, if I could trade in my console for a £100 it would make the cost a lot smaller.

[Cube]

See that's more likely to get me to buy one, the only reason I would prefer to change is for less noise, smaller system over all (as in asthetic size) and wifi, if I could trade in my console for a £100 it would make the cost a lot smaller.

What model do you currently have?

[nightwolf]

What model do you currently have?

Regular 60gb? I can't remember. I doubt I'd actually get £100 if I traded it in, but then I managed to get £150 for my wii, so you never know. :D

[Cube]

The new model is £119.99 with a trade in of a 60GB model at GAME. So that's an £80 trade-in.

[nightwolf]

The new model is £119.99 with a trade in of a 60GB model at GAME. So that's an £80 trade-in.

Thats not bad! We'll see anyway, I don't need a new xbox, I'm just drawn to the shiny shiny of the new one. :laughing:

[Babooo]

Thats not bad! We'll see anyway, I don't need a new xbox, I'm just drawn to the shiny shiny of the new one. :laughing:

lol same here mate! I currently have an Elite version which is only a couple of months old as my first 360 got the red rings.

However I have a 2 year warranty with my 360 and I'm thinking of making it die so the can give me the newer model as a replacement! Thats what GAME did for my Pro version of the console.....it broke and they gave me an Elite for no extra cost. :laughing:

[nightwolf]

lol same here mate! I currently have an Elite version which is only a couple of months old as my first 360 got the red rings.

However I have a 2 year warranty with my 360 and I'm thinking of making it die so the can give me the newer model as a replacement! Thats what GAME did for my Pro version of the console.....it broke and they gave me an Elite for no extra cost. :laughing:

I've had mine since xmas 2009, I don't use it every day so I imagine I could be lucky enough to never force an rrod, but still.

Its just the wifi that attracts me, I do have a long cable to use which makes it a non-issue, but for convience it'd be a lot better, but I don't know if it's worth buying a new console just for the sake of not having a cable!

[Cube]

I'm sure lots of people will be selling the Xbox WiFi things pretty soon, possibly at a fairly cheap price, too.

[Tyson]

Has there been any word on weather they've fixed the RROD issues in this model?
Tempted

That's such a pleasant colour man :D

[Cube]

Has there been any word on weather they've fixed the RROD issues in this model?

It has no red light in the ring of light, so it can't RROD.

On a serious note, they've added a feature where the console will automatically shut down if it gets too hot, which should solve the heat-related problems.

[McPhee]

Am I the only N-Eer that's not lost a 360 yet? Three and a half years without issue (Bar one scare last summer, but everything was overheating then. I had to spend £80 on extra cooling for my brand new PC :hmm:)

[nightwolf]

Am I the only N-Eer that's not lost a 360 yet? Three and a half years without issue (Bar one scare last summer, but everything was overheating then. I had to spend £80 on extra cooling for my brand new PC :hmm:)

I've had mine for a year and a half with no issues yet.

[ipaul]

So apparently HMV/Game are now giving consoles away for £90 if a person trades in their old elite. This news is pleasing. I just need to get a 120GB Hard Drive again :P

[S.C.G]

Is it really true that the old transfer kit won't work as a means of transfering data from Elite to Slim?

Some guy in game told me that the 'new' transfer kits that they will coincidentally be selling on the same day as the console for £14.99 are the only ones that will do the job, which sounds like BS to me... can anyone confirm/deny this?

[Daft]

Bullshit, I'm pretty sure.

[Mundi]

As far as I know its included with the console.
month old news but hey:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39645/Xbox-360-S-includes-data-transfer-kit

[Shorty]

I've read online that the 360 S comes with a data transfer kit in the UK, and also that USB devices can be used. Also read you can buy the new 360, take it home to do the transfer then bring the 360 in with your receipt to do the trade and receive cash.

[S.C.G]

As far as I know its included with the console.
month old news but hey:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39645/Xbox-360-S-includes-data-transfer-kit

I've read online that the 360 S comes with a data transfer kit in the UK, and also that USB devices can be used. Also read you can buy the new 360, take it home to do the transfer then bring the 360 in with your receipt to do the trade and receive cash.

I wasn't even aware of that, good to know though. :)

[Shorty]

Hm well, that all circled around a tweet that GAME made, which after looking around doesn't really seem to have been backed up or confirmed anywhere.

Also on the GAME website, they are selling the transfer cable separately at £15. So I'm guessing it doesn't come bundled.

However it does seem possible to transfer everything over using 16GB USB devices. However that might include some things like Mass Effect saves (which you don't seem to be able to copy over).

The site also says Elite trade in is worth £80. A 'Super' Elite (250GB) is worth £100. That said, "Prices subject to change" can be found in the disclaimer.

[Dyson]

RE: Trade-ins and data transfer:

-Data transfer kit is being sold seperately
-Our store in particular isn't doing instore data transfers but we have heard that some might be, so it's worth asking.

However; what we are doing (as are the majority of stores) is what Shorty mentioned a page back. Essentially the cash and instore credit trade-in prices will be the same for a couple of weeks. This means:

1. Buy your new Slim,
2. Get hold of a data transfer cable,
3. Go home, transfer data,
4. Return old 360 to store for monies.

Simples. :D

It's also worth mentioning that most stores (mine included) are doing midnight launches for the new Slim which seems ridiculous to me but hey ho. If your store had one for MW2 or other such titles chances are it'll be opening at midnight for the Slim.

In the case of my store, we are expecting to have enough stock to fill pre-orders and have a few surplus to sell on day of release. If you're buying it from GAME and you haven't pre-ordered, you're gonna need to get there as soon as the store opens if you want one based on the level of interest we've had. Conversely, the HMV I used to work for has a grand total of 2 pre-orders compared to our 60. Even the staff from there have pre-ordered at GAME, it's awesome :D

[MATtheHAT]

Dyson, is it £100 trade-in for my 120GB Elite? I've pre-ordered at my local GAME, and I'm sure I mentioned it was the 120GB version......

[Dyson]

It depends when you pre-ordered, if you pre-ordered before the 1st of July then the trade-in price was £100 for the 120GB Elite, and you'll get that amount when trading it in for the Slim. If it was on or after the 1st of July then it's £80 you'll get for it. It's the same deal with the other consoles too, the 20GB Premium was £60 but went down to £50 and so on but if you preordered before 1/7 you'll get the higher trade-in price. :D

[Ellmeister]

It depends when you pre-ordered, if you pre-ordered before the 1st of July then the trade-in price was £100 for the 120GB Elite, and you'll get that amount when trading it in for the Slim. If it was on or after the 1st of July then it's £80 you'll get for it. It's the same deal with the other consoles too, the 20GB Premium was £60 but went down to £50 and so on but if you preordered before 1/7 you'll get the higher trade-in price. :D

What if I came into your shop and gave you a hug, would I be able to get the £100 trade-in price? :o

[Sheikah]

It depends when you pre-ordered, if you pre-ordered before the 1st of July then the trade-in price was £100 for the 120GB Elite, and you'll get that amount when trading it in for the Slim. If it was on or after the 1st of July then it's £80 you'll get for it. It's the same deal with the other consoles too, the 20GB Premium was £60 but went down to £50 and so on but if you preordered before 1/7 you'll get the higher trade-in price. :D
The HMV deal is still cheaper than either of those prices (console costs £90 when Elite traded in)

In short, don't bother buying from GAME.

[Shorty]

The HMV deal is still cheaper than either of those prices (console costs £90 when Elite traded in)

In short, don't bother buying from GAME.
But then you have to buy the transfer kit for £15, and will HMV let you take in the console later for your cash back?

[Sheikah]

I can't see why not, or at least allow you to transfer it over in store. You only need that for non-transferrable saves anyway, right? The rest you can backup to USB stick.

[Shorty]

Yeah but Mass Effect is one of those non-transferable saves. Also if I could save downloading hundreds of gigs of games and addons I would like to.

On the other hand, I could just play through Mass Effect again and do the redownload to save the cost of the transfer cable.

Any idea what saves are non-transferable?

[Cube]

Yeah but Mass Effect is one of those non-transferable saves.

I moved my Mass Effect 2 (and Fable 2 - another "protected" game save) onto a USB stick so I could move it to my other HDD. I think with the "non-transferable" ones you can move them (just not copy them).

Unfortunately this meant that when my bigger HDD failed I lost them (I managed to scrape my renegade playthough from ME2, but that's about it)

[Shorty]

Ah I see.

In that case, I am now considering nipping to HMV on Friday... hm....

[Sheikah]

I moved my Mass Effect 2 (and Fable 2 - another "protected" game save) onto a USB stick so I could move it to my other HDD. I think with the "non-transferable" ones you can move them (just not copy them).
How would they stop you from copying the data on your USB stick once connected to your PC?

[Cube]

How would they stop you from copying the data on your USB stick once connected to your PC?

The USB stick is the same format as the 360's HDD, which would stop most people copying the data. You would need something like Xplorer360 to access the save file.

[Jackster]

Just got this email from Game :grin:

Qty Description
1 The New Xbox 360 250GB with Data Transfer Cable [Xbox 360]

Your order has left the building and will be with you soon! Your credit/debit card will now be charged in accordance with your instructions and if you are a Reward Member your points will be added to your card.

I wonder when it'll be delivered? I wonder if I could pick it up at the Parcelforce depot when it arrives there instead of waiting for the guy to deliver it.

[CoolFunkMan]

Just got this email from Game :grin:



I wonder when it'll be delivered? I wonder if I could pick it up at the Parcelforce depot when it arrives there instead of waiting for the guy to deliver it.

I got an e-mail from GAME on Sunday saying they'd shipped it. I'm expecting my new 360 tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. Thursday at the earliest is more likely tbh.

[Caris]

So, what's the best deal about in terms of trading your old 360 in against a slim?

The manager at my local Blockbusters said she would beat any deal going so I'm trying to find the best one.

[Shorty]

If you're talking about an elite, read further up this page and the one before it.

If you're not talking about an elite... you're not going to get very much tbh.

[Jimbob]

As i've said before, i'll only go down the route for a new 360 if my current one decides to end it's life.

[Jackster]

I got an e-mail from GAME on Sunday saying they'd shipped it. I'm expecting my new 360 tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. Thursday at the earliest is more likely tbh.

On Game's website it's showing as "Your order has been dispatched." and on Parcelforce's website it says it's an Express 24 service, which would suggest it'll be here tomorrow...

We'll see...

[nightwolf]

As i've said before, i'll only go down the route for a new 360 if my current one decides to end it's life.

I'll likely be doing the same, there's no way I can afford to replace my xbox when it's still working, but I think the housemate is buying a new xbox and keeping his old elite, so I might see if he'll let me test the new one :D.

I'd be interested to see if people got their xboxes today, but it does seem early even for GAME.

[Shorty]

I'm justifying it thusly:

1. My elite's used up it's year's warranty.
2. I'm down to about 30/120GB HDD space, so I get double HDD updgrade.
3. Xbox is in great condition for a trade, but sometimes disc reading plays up. That wouldn't be noticeable during the trade though :heh:
4. Get shiny new controller.
5. Built in Wi-Fi, then I can sell my Wi-Fi adapter.
6. Quieter and more reliable system.

If I can get that for £90, I'm doin it.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Sell the adapter to meeee. m8's r8, m8.

[nightwolf]

I'm justifying it thusly:

1. My elite's used up it's year's warranty.
2. I'm down to about 30/120GB HDD space, so I get double HDD updgrade.
3. Xbox is in great condition for a trade, but sometimes disc reading plays up. That wouldn't be noticeable during the trade though :heh:
4. Get shiny new controller.
5. Built in Wi-Fi, then I can sell my Wi-Fi adapter.
6. Quieter and more reliable system.

If I can get that for £90, I'm doin it.

I've noticed this recently, the first time I recall is just after buying ffx13, not that that'd make the difference but for some reason its a date I remember it happening. Although it doesn't happen often its very irritating.

[Aimless]

Incidentally ShopTo are selling original model 250GB HDDs for £43 (http://www.shopto.net/XBOX%20360/VIDEO%20GAMES/XB2250-250GB%20Xbox%20360%20Hard%20Drive.html), a price bordering on reasonable. Should prove a worthwhile upgrade for those unwilling to fork out for a brand new machine.

[Caris]

Looking forward to Friday :)

[S.C.G]

Incidentally ShopTo are selling original model 250GB HDDs for £43 (http://www.shopto.net/XBOX%20360/VIDEO%20GAMES/XB2250-250GB%20Xbox%20360%20Hard%20Drive.html), a price bordering on reasonable. Should prove a worthwhile upgrade for those unwilling to fork out for a brand new machine.

That's actually very good and if it wasn't for my Elite being out of its extended three year warranty I would have considered just getting a bigger hard drive.

As it stand though the new Xbox makes sense for me because although my machine is out of warranty it still works meaning I can get a reasonable trade in on it once I've transferred everything over, the built-in wi-fi is a nice bonus and means I could also trade-in my two wireless adapters... or sell them... undecided yet.

Plus it is smaller, shinier, quieter and the extra USB ports should mean that I won't need to have a half-broken USB hub dangling off the front of my console... >.>

So yeah I'm looking forward to the new Xbox 360 S. :)

[Caris]

FYI they don't come with a transfer cable.

[Dyson]

Transfer Cables are £14.99 on their own in GAME. I believe that's the RRP..

[Shorty]

Any word of what cables do come with it? HDMI by any chance?

[Cube]

Any word of what cables do come with it? HDMI by any chance?

Not a chance:

What's in the Box?
Xbox 360 S Console (Gloss Black)
Xbox 360 S 250GB Removable Hard Drive
Xbox 360 Black Wireless Controller
Xbox 360 Black Headset
Xbox 360 Composite A/V cable (Standard Definition)
One Month Xbox LIVE Gold Membership
1 Year Limited Express Warranty

Edit: Play.com say that a standard transfer cable will transfer content between an old HDD and the new model.

[S.C.G]

Yeah it will, the only difference with the 'old' and 'new' transfer cable is that the 'new' one doesn't come with the disc because it's not necessary anymore, the ability to auto-detect that you're using one must have been added in an update a good while ago because I recently did a transfer for someone using my kit and it asked if I wanted to transfer stuff when it was connected.

They do it via the same process on the new video which explains it all somewhere on XBL.

[Shorty]

You think if I trade in my 360 they'll notice if I don't include my hdmi cable? :heh:

[Cube]

I think if you included the other TV cable they probably won't notice.

[S.C.G]

I'm gonna ask before trading in if it matters about the accesories, if it doesn't make much difference then I'm keeping my headset, controller and HDMI cable, I might even keep the Optical sound dongle too for lolz.

I'm allready gonna be letting my brother have my 120GB HDD so the trade in value of an Elite will be limited anyway no? say probably £50 with no HDD I would have thought.

[Shorty]

They will probably not give you full price without the controller and headset. I won't be going til quite late on Fri evening though so... let me know how your trade goes! :heh:

[Cube]

Oh, does anyone want a transfer cable for £7 including postage?

I got a 250GB HDD on Tuesday and no longer need the cable.

[Jackster]

Emailed Parcelforce to try and get a delivery estimate, they say that for Game and Gamestation they hold on to the parcels til the official release date :sad:

Oh well, roll on tomorrow!

[bryanee]

I got mine this morning from shopto. I'm currently downloading all my games/dlc again. Whisper quiet sure is right, you cant even hear it. And there is barely any sound when playing a game. Great stuff.

[nightwolf]

Hmm, if quite a few of you are selling your xboxes, does anybody have a wifi dongle going? I don't really need it, but it might come in handy if someone is selling one cheap.

I keep looking at the new model and I just don't think its that good looking, but then neither is my white one anyway...

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Oi. I've pan-handled this stream first, nighterwolfling!

[Jimbob]

They do look sleek though. GAME had one on display when i popped in earlier, enquired about if they do transfers in store if i bought mine in. They said no, so i'm still going down the road of "when mine breaks", or starts playing up what-ever comes first.

[nightwolf]

Oi. I've pan-handled this stream first, nighterwolfling!

Pssh back off Mister! I can just flutter my eyelashes. Buwahaha.

[Nintenchris]

Ive got mine!!!

well i got it in my dream last night .. anyone got a spare £200?

[Jimbob]

Ive got mine!!!

well i got it in my dream last night .. anyone got a spare £200?

I have.

Answer is no by the way!!!!.

[Nintenchris]

i can give it back!!!! next week
oooooh Argos is doing it for £189.99

[CoolFunkMan]

My new XBox has arrvied!!!!!! :D

....although I'm stuck at work right now, I don't finish till 8 and I'm going straight out afterwards. Bugger. My gf is going to set it up for me, bless her, so at least it'll be ready for when we get home! :)

[S.C.G]

Mine has arrived! Its been setup and I'm currently transferring all my content so I can't really do anything with it atm but what I will say is this...

It looks nice...
It's a LOT quieter...

And erm that's all I can really say about it for now... oh yeah and you get Peggle and Pinbal on top of Hexic on the HDD which is a nice bonus I guess. :)

*edit* if you allready have any of those arcade games it will ask you if you want to overwrite the one on the new Xbox with the one from your old HDD, I chose 'Yes' seeing as that's the one which is allready associated with my Gamertag but I suspect that it doesn't matter too much, just figured I'd mention it for anyone hoping to go off and leave the Xbox to transfer everything because it will pause the transfer until you tell it what to do at that point.

About halfway there in terms of transferred content now which has taken 20 mins so far, the whole process for a nearly full 120GB HDD would probably take 45 mins - 1 hour I'd have thought, I'm anticipating my transfer to take no loner than another 15 - 20 mins, it's really not that bad when you consider all that it has to move across.

Scratch what I said about the 'extra' arcade games, they're just demos lol.

[Caris]

Very impressed myself, I love the chime when you touch one of the new buttons.

[MATtheHAT]

Just recovering my Gamertag now on my new Xbox.

Its nice, glossy sleek black with chrome trim, whisper quiet, loads of USB ports, touch sensitive buttons and built in Wi-Fi..............Just like my launch PS3.

[Wesley]

This is insane.

I will maybe buy one when my one (which does everything the same) breaks.

Maybe not even then.

[Shorty]

I bought one of these from Currys. Quieter is about all I can say about it at the moment :heh: Managed to really easily transfer all my stuff over using an external HDD.

[Dante]

Chart-tracks -
(http://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=896&s=1111)
Microsoft’s new and improved, slimmer XBox 360 console, the XBox 360 250GB (or XBox 360 S) achieves the biggest launch in the UK for a “revised” home console, surpassing the launches of both PS2 Slim and PS3 Slim and recording over two days around the same as the original Xbox 360's launch sales total back in week 48 2005.

This is even more impressive when you take into account that the original Xbox 360 was launched across two versions (Pro and Core).

A great week for Microsoft is ensured with the format holder’s XB360 exclusive title ‘Crackdown 2’ holding on to top spot in the All Formats Chart for a second week. A 36% drop in sales is not enough for it to be caught by Ubisoft’s ‘Dance on Broadway’ (-9%), which climbs 2 places to No2, only around 800 units behind ‘Crackdown 2’. Lego Harry Potter’s spell on the charts is slowly wearing off as it drops one place to No3 (-31%), while another previous No1, ‘Red Dead Redemption’ (-19%) also slips one place, down to No4.

There is only one new entry this week, Disney’s ‘Toy Story 3’, new at No5, while the rest of the All Formats Top 10 all make way by each falling one place. Microsoft also benefit from retailer price promotions and bundling on ‘Alan Wake’ (+98%) that helps shoot it back up the Charts from No23 to No11. Another retailer promoted title, ‘Bioshock 2’ (+97%) enjoys a similar jump, up from No24 to No12.

[Nintendohnut]

A Question:

Would you recommend me trading in my elite (jasper chipset) for a 'slim' at hmv? Bearing in mind I can't connect with a cable so if I keep the elite I'll have to buy a wireless adapter, and that my 120gb hdd is almost full :/

I went into hmv today to do this but they had sold out (which I'll be honest, I was quite surprised about, but w'eva) but now I have more thinking tome so I wanted to open it up to the forum!

[S.C.G]

^ Do eeeeeeeeeeeeeet Nowwwwwwwwww!*




*or y'know... whenever they get them back in stock. >>

[nightwolf]

Saw a new xbox yesterday - friend has one. I can't say I like the look of it, still a bulky thing, the only difference he can tell me is the quietness and wifi.

Maybe I was expecting too much! Hmm.

[Shorty]

The size difference is significant tbh. I can now fit my Wii next to my 360, and the power brick is less than half the size. However it's still the same console, you shouldn't expect anything revolutionary.

[Cube]

The size difference is significant tbh. I can now fit my Wii next to my 360, and the power brick is less than half the size. However it's still the same console, you shouldn't expect anything revolutionary.

So you can now fit the power brick in a bungalow?

[Shorty]

Maybe a dormer.

[nightwolf]

It didn't seem it when I saw my friends, but then I didn't put the old and new next to each other.

I wasn't hoping revolutionary just something more..hmm.

[Wesley]

Shame that there's still a power adapter... I thought they may have got rid of that like Sony did with the Slim.

[Caris]

The new 4GB model has a matte finish, gutted I got the premium now...

[Nintenchris]

The new 4GB model has a matte finish, gutted I got the premium now...

Dont worry mate just give me your new xbox and youll be free to get a matte one in November :)