FlashForward

[Charlie]

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs171.snc1/6420_147813440863_147812530863_3381400_1683908_n.j pg

"A mysterious global event causes everyone on the planet to simultaneously see, for two minutes and seventeen seconds, his or her life six months in the future. When it is over, many are dead in accidents involving vehicles, aircraft, and any other device needing human control. Everyone who survived is left wondering if what they saw will actually happen.

A Los Angeles FBI agent named Mark Benford (Joseph Fiennes) tries to figure out what exactly happened and why it happened. Along with his team, he creates a database of people's flash forwards from around the world called the Mosaic Collective (for which a website has been launched). Apart from the various catastrophic visions, people also see themselves engaging in unexpected behavior; for example, Benford sees himself drinking again, and his wife Olivia has a vision of herself with another man.


Has anyone else seen the opening episode of this yet? It aired in America last night and I believe it's going to be shown on Channel 5 on Tuesday night.

From the first episode it looks like it's going to be pretty good. Very interesting stuff so far. Channel 5 are hyping it up quite a lot, mentioning Lost in the promos etc. It's well worth a watch on Tuesday night. I'm definitely going to be carrying on watching it.

Intrigued to see what's going to happen next after what happened right at the end of the episode!

[Caris]

Yes! I've seen the trailers for this and it looks amazing, I'll download the first episode and post my impressions.

[Ashley]

I dunno...something about it makes me think it won't last. Can't pinpoint it. I hope it does. It looks interesting and I'll watch the pilot tonight but colour me sceptical.

Bright side, they have apparently planned what to do once they reach the point where it all goes to hell in six months time (on the show, not as in March) so at least there's some forward planning.

[Cube]

I dunno...something about it makes me think it won't last. Can't pinpoint it.

The fact that they had to resort to showing it on Channel 5 in the UK?

[Ashley]

The fact that they had to resort to showing it on Channel 5 in the UK?

lol Five occasionally picks winners. They're still showing 30 Rock yes?

[Raining_again]

Yeah the whole five thing might do damage to its viewers. I watch Neighbours and Home & Away, they've been whoring the ads for this program like nothing on earth.

I can see it being the next lost - you either love it, or it just goes completely over your head. Probably the latter for me :P

[Happenstance]

Yeah im planning on watching this Monday night on Five, nice not to have to download shows now and again

[Caris]

Doesn't Channel 5 show House?

[Ashley]

No Sky snatched it from them.

[EEVILMURRAY]

I dunno...something about it makes me think it won't last. Can't pinpoint it. I hope it does. It looks interesting and I'll watch the pilot tonight but colour me sceptical.
I concur, for me I think it's because the advert boasts it's from the same makers as Lost. Who have physically raped the concept of flashbacks, so have gone the opposite way.

[Mr_Odwin]

No Sky snatched it from them.

5 had Prison Break to begin with, before Sky took that too. So if this takes off, no doubt season two will be on Sky.

[Charlie]

No Sky snatched it from them.

I would imagine Sky will do the same if this goes really popular.


For some reason a part of them wants them to do this. I've got no idea why as it makes no difference to me whatsoever as I have them both. Might make it seem more mainstream or something if a 'big' channel picks it up. Anyway, I still won't watch it on TV but instead download it.

[Daft]

Can't wait to watch the first season.

No doubt subsequent seasons will get crapper and crapper...

[Mokong X-C]

i'll likely watch it tomorrow, seen a few trailers which did catch my interest, would d/l it today but too busy at the moment

[SPAMBOT4000]

Just watched it and thought it was alright but not great. I wonder if everyone would just go with the flash forward theory so easily in real life though. They all seem to act like flashing forward into the future is an every-other-day occurrence. Nice to see a couple of british actors though even if they have got bad american accents.

[Caris]

I've just seen it too and thought it was really good, I can see it getting better and better.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

From teh poster/this thread I get a 4400 vibe... I guess I'll go watch it now and see!

[ReZourceman]

Yeah I'm really looking FlashForward to watching this on Monday on C5, as Happen said nice to not have to download things.

Looks good.

JOHN FUCKING CHO!!!!!!!!!!! GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that Stringer Bell?

[Ashley]

Watched it last night


Because it was meh. Way too OTT dramatic at times. I've not seen such an amusingly awful slow motion run since Baywatch. Plus I know he is an FBI agent too but if he was so determined to go see his wife why did he keep stopping? RUN MAN RUN! Plus near the end. DUM DUM DUM FRIENDSHIP BRACELET!

When I first heard that during the first few eps of VM they colour-coded the male characters clothing to differentiate I found it silly, but watching this last night I think it might have helped. The only one I could differentiate was John Cho's character. White males do all look alike :heh:

The end did pick up my interest again but mostly I found it way too overdramatic. Plus it was trying to be Lost a bit too hard, and I grew tired of Lost anyway

Will be one of those I watch when bored I suppose, but not "must-see TV".

[Mokong X-C]

I just watched it and enjoyed it. Looking forward to see how it all ends up. Haha, I wonder if when they reach the time everyone flashed forward to will people start going "wait THIS IS IT"

Should be good so long as they don't draw it out too much, two seasons... maybe 3 tops should be the most they put into it.

I bet it all happened cuz some mafia group came up with something that would cause people to blackout and 2 mins 17 sec was exactly what they needed to steel a load of money or something, they were just meant to blackout people in a certain radius but something went wrong and it affected the world :heh:

I think however the biggest question must be

What the hell was a kangaroo doing in the middle of LA?

[Ashley]

I'm sure the mystery is meant to last through the first season, which will take us to March (their time). I'm sure I read they've already planned for after that.

In regards to your big mystery


I presume it was meant to be like Lost's polar bear. Personally I laughed as it was just so stupid. Presume its meant to be from a zoo or something, was getting cleaned as everyone blacked out and he escaped.

[Cube]

I quite enjoyed it, although it did seem a bit over the top at times. I'm also concerned about:

The mystery isn't unravelled within 6 months, so the show is likely to go on past that stage. A lot of the show seems to be how people get to that point - what will happen to all of this after that point?

They need to go past the visions...but the build up to that point seems to be the entire basis of the series.

Edit: I suppose they could do it where they have a massive two-parter, with the time of the visions near the start of the second one, and finding out everything left in that episode.

White males do all look alike :heh:

I kept getting confused between FBI Agent and Suicide Doctor.

[NintendWho]

I would imagine Sky will do the same if this goes really popular.


For some reason a part of them wants them to do this. I've got no idea why as it makes no difference to me whatsoever as I have them both. Might make it seem more mainstream or something if a 'big' channel picks it up. Anyway, I still won't watch it on TV but instead download it.

five gets viewers in the low millions, Sky gets viewers in the high hundreds of thousands, so the programme will get much more exposure if it stays on five. five is, after all, a terrestrial channel and available to everyone but Sky is subscription only. However, programmes that do prove popular are usually stolen by Sky unfortunately.

five does pick winners a lot of the time, although the new Knight Rider (which was very enjoyable in the pilot movie and had bags of potential, but was then handed over to Gary Scott Thompson of the first Fast & The Furious film for the regular series and he butchered and raped it into a piece of shit :( ) has been picked up by five's Fiver channel and they're hyping it up well and advertising the hell out of it and it HAS been cancelled.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Just got round to watching this. I think that yes, it has cottoned on to the suspense-drama schtick that we've seen in Lost and Heroes, but it's an age old formula that is perfectly competent as an entertainment medium. Yes, the episode struggled to really grip beyond the gimmick of "zomg FUTUUR!" but I think the show will be capable of entwining us with the general whodunnit element as it grows, rather than simply ".. so will it be as it is seen?" (because honestly it will be, duh).

The dude with the star tattoos and the dude in the baseball stadium will surely be key focuses for a while. Beyond that I guess is simply; if it was a man-made situation then why do it, and if not then why did some people not black out? Personally I think the dude at the baseball game was just at the game to ensure he would be seen by camera. He wasn't wearing team colours or anything.

I felt the 4400 vibe after watching it, too, and that show managed to go beyond the initial zomg situation. The FBI dude clearly hadn't solved the matter at hand, so once we get to april 30th that'll still be a focus, as well as this shady secret bunch of Dudes behind it. Future seasons? If this is a man-made power then maybe other instances, or maybe a more controlled version of it (perhaps it was an experiment gone wrong -- meant to be focused on a few individuals rather than the world?), so we'll have, like, Secret Agents Minority Report/Timecop styleee.... who knows. Just rambles.

[Ashley]

Producer Marc Guggenheim added: "We know what the ultimate season is and the penultimate season is. For in between, we know the various seasons but we are treating it like an accordion.

"In success, [the show] can go seven years. In less success, it would need to go three years to work. The end game of the show, to be properly done, really requires two full seasons focusing on the end game."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a178992/flashforward-execs-have-ending-planned.html

[Pyxis]

I'd rather watch plain and simple American TV series like Chuck or Star Trek, where each episode has its own beginning and end. You don't have to be concerned about the final outcome of the story.

3 seasons of Battlestar Galactica put me off cliffhangers and drawn out stories for life.

[dan-likes-trees]

I'd rather watch plain and simple American TV series like Chuck or Star Trek, where each episode has its own beginning and end. You don't have to be concerned about the final outcome of the story.

3 seasons of Battlestar Galactica put me off cliffhangers and drawn out stories for life.

I genuinely don't see how anyone can dislike Battlestar. Then again I think watching it throught the DVDs makes it exponentially more watchable and less irritating.

Anyway, Flashforward: I loved! Think I must be the only person who did by the sounds of it but yeh. Beyond the silly moments, the beginning that pretty much mimiced Lost, and the fact that I don't see how, when April 30 or whatever eventually does come then people will just be acting normally as opposed to 'omg this is it!!', I think there's alot of potential. The bit with the dude in the baseball stadium wandering around was pretty pr0 too.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

You're missing out on teh scope of story telling if you can't stomach anything more than bitesize snackery.

I genuinely don't see how anyone can dislike Battlestar. Then again I think watching it throught the DVDs makes it exponentially more watchable and less irritating.

Anyway, Flashforward: I loved! Think I must be the only person who did by the sounds of it but yeh. Beyond the silly moments, the beginning that pretty much mimiced Lost, and the fact that I don't see how, when April 30 or whatever eventually does come then people will just be acting normally as opposed to 'omg this is it!!', I think there's alot of potential. The bit with the dude in the baseball stadium wandering around was pretty pr0 too.

Well it doesn't seem like everyone is aware that they were actually experiencing the future as of now. The media seems to be convinced everyone just 'lost consciousness', and dreamt something or other. The media may be a bunch of saps, but they're not going to miss out on such a number if they spotted it.

But the point is raised all the same - like the black guy who basically saw stuff in the paper that could win him a fortune if he bet on it, along with a sure number of the 7 million people who also read that paper, it is a thought to ponder on - will they acknowledge it at some point?

Then again, because we don't know the full circumstances to the flashforwards we saw we can't say completely one way or the other as to whether they were expecting the moment as it occured. FBI guy seemed fairly aware that swat dudes were after him, at least. But yeah; loopholes such as that are going to be the bane of the show. Heroes lost touch with it a little bit, so we'll see. It's certainly the 'next big thing' tv-wise, anyway.

[Daft]

Seth MacFarlane!!!!

Anyone else see him?

[ReZourceman]

Seth MacFarlane!!!!

Anyone else see him?

YES! That was amazing!

THIS SHOW HAS GOT EVERYONE IN AND THIS SHOW WAS AWESOME AND I LOVED IT AND IT HAD JOHN CHO AND THAT GUY FROM COUPLING AND IT WAS FUCKING SWEET.


Yeah that was cool. :D

[Daft]

Tbh, I wasn't blown away. The very very end was cool but the characters are currently as likeable as AIDS.

[Happenstance]

I really enjoyed it, one thing I wonder though is how long will they be able to drag this out for.

Im wondering if im the only one who was hoping the guy she was with in her flashforward was Desmond from Lost when they first watched it

[Cube]

Something I just noticed

There only seemed to be one patient. The hospital didn't really look busy and the doctors didn't seem to be that concerned that there were thousands and thousands of people that needed help. They didn't even look like they had a tough day.

[Happenstance]

I was just reading the IGN review of it and they brought up some good points. Mainly about how it just seemed like a few hours after possibly the worst event in human history people just went back to work. Like the main guy doing his slow motion running to get to his wife, getting the phonecall from her then just leaving it, neither of them wanting to go home to their daughter.

EDIT: I am however quite tempted to get the book that this is based on, might be a good read.

[Ashley]

I did like the way John Cho's character said "your daughter is miiiiiles away, fuck that, she's 5 she can handle herself, go see your wife."

But it did seem like a rather casual day at the hospital. Woman doctor, who seemed to be of importance, even got home on time. Its amazing how Scrubs is more realistic at times then hospital dramas :p

[ReZourceman]

I did like the way John Cho's character said "your daughter is miiiiiles away, fuck that, she's 5 she can handle herself, go see your wife."

But it did seem like a rather casual day at the hospital. Woman doctor, who seemed to be of importance, even got home on time. Its amazing how Scrubs is more realistic at times then hospital dramas :p

Lol, I'm not sure if its intentional...because they're both so common but she said "Go put on some Scrubs and go to ER"

I lolled.

[Aimless]

I watched this yesterday as I wanted to watch the second part of Waking The Dead tonight. Just as well, really, as the latter was a far superior programme.

Anyway, I like the premise of the show and can think of numerous interesting directions they could take it, but there was a certain air of the anticlimactic surrounding the pilot. There were a lot of little things that seemed odd, and not in the "Ooh, mysterious!" way. There was nothing that made any of the characters stand out, either, although hopefully the show just needs a bit more time to inject some sort of personality into them; everyone had a situation — guy who's lost his daughter, etcetera — but no one was particularly funny, cynical, selfish, whatever.

I'm going to watch more but at the moment its Lost-envy is a bit overbearing. I'm also wary of any show that won't be able to stand alone as a single season, although at least they apparently have some idea where they want to take things.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

So! March 15th, Noh dies. Chances are it's his baby, too. I'd say everything is going to happen the way it's been seen, but much like the BSG opening drumroll, they won't necessarily have the connotations we currently expect - yet during the flashes nobody seemed to be going "oh, I remember thinking about this moment 6 months ago! It's actually happening!" which is probably the biggest loophole for me.

I like that they've expanded on the conspiracy theory already, with two (at least) shady people surrounding this plot. I also like the idea that the supposed people who organised this actually didn't get a glimpse of the future themselves, which means clue-wise the feds do have some sort of advantage.

Honestly, though, it's been two episodes so far and I really don't actually care about any of the characters. The entire show is purely driven by the promise of the premise, and the curious/mysterious shading the show has. There's little besides cliché and base predictability that centres around the show saying we know what's going to happen, and we're not going to even make it slightly possible for you to predict it because we're going to feed you the information you need bit-by-bit, in the least helpful order... It's an odd form of entertainment that doesn't really require your higher brain functions at all, just that you watch and observe, and eventually you'll be rewarded with the solution.

That it follows a sort of Lost mentality is cute, but ultimately it doesn't have that feeling of being able to attain completeness that I, personally, think the time-defying, island-bound other does.

[ReZourceman]

I'm not clicking for fear of Spoilars, but Jay, in your opinion, better or worse than episode 1?

[SPAMBOT4000]

I think it was better than episode 1. Still not entirely sure that it's going to pan out okay but there's definite potential. Joseph Fiennes accent is winding me up though... STOP GROWLING!
I'm also enjoying that they expanded on the conspiracy so soon. There was quite a lot of info to download in this ep really which is a definite good thing. The plot seems to be going ahead at full steam and so far there isn't much sign of non-essential filler. Nice little twist at the end too. I call that the scene of his wife with that other man is some kind of forced set up by whoever's responsible for the blackout. Don't really know how to explain what I mean by that but it's definitely not going to be as straight forward as it looks.

[dan-likes-trees]

I think it was better than episode 1. Still not entirely sure that it's going to pan out okay but there's definite potential. Joseph Fiennes accent is winding me up though... STOP GROWLING!

Lol agreed, and I swear the actress who plays his wife has a pretty poor American accent... that or Im just used to her being a Brit in Lost.

Anyways, Im rather loving it so far, thought the second episode was very good. And they didn't really fall into the everyone-going-back-to-normal-straight-away thing that people thought they'd do.

Is it a 24 episode season or shorter does anyone know?

[Caris]

Thought the second episode was fantastic tbh.

[Daft]

My god this is crap. Joseph Fiennes doesn't talk, he growls. Constantly, as SPAMBOT so perfectly pointed out.

Does this show actually have writers or do they just have a random CSI/Law & Order/Mysterious Bullshit machine. Seriously, what was the the whole thing in the loo about? Absolutely jarring.

It doesn't help that the characters are about as interesting as dry rot.

Edit: WAAAA!! The deductive logic they just showed was farcical. "Maybe she was talking about a place with lots of pigeons...duur huuur...."

[ReZourceman]

Thought that was good. On par with the first episode. I will continue to watch.

[Happenstance]

So far im enjoying the story/conspiracy but as people have said, you just dont care about any of the characters.

Also, what kind of person delivers cupcakes to say thankyou sometimes after 3 in the morning???

[Daft]

I still don't get why the Mickey Mouse Club have been assigned to work on this global event.

I actually hate this show. The execution is rubbish and it is inexplicably popular. At least Lost had a certain something about it.

[Raining_again]

So far im enjoying the story/conspiracy but as people have said, you just dont care about any of the characters.

Also, what kind of person delivers cupcakes to say thankyou sometimes after 3 in the morning???

She's gotta be evil! Delivering poisoned cupcakes! That's what will kill the Korean guy! :laughing:

[ReZourceman]

Don't care about the characters? Guys. FFS. John Cho. Jeezus sauce.

[Happenstance]

Don't care about the characters? Guys. FFS. John Cho. Jeezus sauce.

John Cho is an actor, not a character and until they start giving us something more interesting with the actual characters I will just care less and less. If the story was any less intruiging I probably would have stopped watching already.

[ReZourceman]

John Cho is an actor, not a character and until they start giving us something more interesting with the actual characters I will just care less and less. If the story was any less intruiging I probably would have stopped watching already.

Actor? No, he's the man.

You sicken me. :(

[Sexual Chocolate]

Well I enjoyed it alot(shoot me down kids, shoot. me. down!!)

[Gentleben]

Well I enjoyed it alot(shoot me down kids, shoot. me. down!!)

I liked it as well. People on this forum are far too over critical. I think you have all forgotten how to enjoy a TV show without ripping it to shreds or complaining on every little detail.

[Raining_again]

I liked it as well. People on this forum are far too over critical. I think you have all forgotten how to enjoy a TV show without ripping it to shreds or complaining on every little detail.

This sums up about half of the people on this forum and half of the threads on this forum :heh:

[Charlie]

I liked it as well. People on this forum are far too over critical. I think you have all forgotten how to enjoy a TV show without ripping it to shreds or complaining on every little detail.

Yeah, that's my thinking too.

I really enjoyed it and I'm really intrigued by the story and can't wait for the new episode tomorrow.

[Daft]

I liked it as well. People on this forum are far too over critical. I think you have all forgotten how to enjoy a TV show without ripping it to shreds or complaining on every little detail.

Well there's that and then there is the vapidity that is FlashForward.

Bad writing and boring characters are hardly a little detail.

[Happenstance]

Theres nothing wrong with being critical anyway, if there is something wrong with a show then im going to notice it. Especially if the problem is that none of the characters are interesting, thats kind of a big thing!

[SPAMBOT4000]

Episode 3
Probably the most boring hour of television I've watched in a very long time. No spoilers needed as there isn't really anything to spoil.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Nyaw, I've just started watching it :P

I have to say that I think the main dude's AA sponsor is starting to seem, to me, like he may be dodgy. Saying things like "If it were up to me? I'd do whatever I have to do." Makes me think that somehow the baddies'll get wind of the fact that he's getting top secret info, and use him against FBIman.

Plus that his daughter is actually dead (or so he's told us, but why lie) and plus dmitri's now-fiancé saying they're getting married are, at least, things to increase doubt in our minds.

We also now have a previous incident to contemplate. Why was teh boy ok? because it was a localised event. What was teh tower? What was that stuff around it? Was it a test? All fun stuff.

Sure, the episode generally seemed a bit full of fluff and predictability, and yes teh script still sucks balls, but there are enough nice little stories going on to keep me interested still, so I'll be tuning in again next week :)

[dan-likes-trees]

Nyaw, I've just started watching it :P

I have to say that I think the main dude's AA sponsor is starting to seem, to me, like he may be dodgy. Saying things like "If it were up to me? I'd do whatever I have to do." Makes me think that somehow the baddies'll get wind of the fact that he's getting top secret info, and use him against FBIman.

Plus that his daughter is actually dead (or so he's told us, but why lie) and plus dmitri's now-fiancé saying they're getting married are, at least, things to increase doubt in our minds.

We also now have a previous incident to contemplate. Why was teh boy ok? because it was a localised event. What was teh tower? What was that stuff around it? Was it a test? All fun stuff.

Sure, the episode generally seemed a bit full of fluff and predictability, and yes teh script still sucks balls, but there are enough nice little stories going on to keep me interested still, so I'll be tuning in again next week :)

Agreed. Worst episode yet, imo, but still very watchable.

Two bits of bullshit though: That whole thing about what looked from the graph like 70% of the worlds crows dieing during the blackouts and noone realizing apart from some German guy in a prison? Come on, I could have told them that after the first episode (I recall a crow flying into a window at some point?)

Good cliffhanger though.

[Ashley]

I liked it as well. People on this forum are far too over critical. I think you have all forgotten how to enjoy a TV show without ripping it to shreds or complaining on every little detail.

I think it comes from how its advertised. FlashForward puts itself forwards as something serious, mindbending and ZOMG shocking and just isn't. Hell I'm enjoying Cougar Town in a "its okay mind rot" kind of way because it doesn't try to be better.

Although I haven't watched FF since the first episode. I think I may just marathon it at the end of the season.

p.s. what happened to the gentle part of gentleben :(

[Raining_again]

p.s. what happened to the gentle part of gentleben :(

Goes wild and kills everyone in the end doesn't he?

[Daft]

They just mentioned kabbalah.

I'm not sure how this program could get any worse. It is worth watching for its car crash value.

[D_prOdigy]

I like Thomas Kretschmann. A lot.

[ReZourceman]

Well I think its been a pretty great episode so far....nice bits of character-ness for some (the lead is still bland though) and I think its quite interesting. How airplane-black-chick saw Harold in her flashforward.

Etc.

[Daft]

Oh man! He fell for the Nazi trick hard!

Thank God he isn't in charge of a crucial investigation into a global event that effected everyone on the planet and inadvertently caused the deaths of millions.

...oh wait.

Edit: Oh my God, this is hysterical.

Shakespeare in Love: "Crows died all over the world at the same time."

Stupid Preggo Police Woman: "Who cares?!"

Maybe because it's another f*cking global event you dumb bitch. The Mickey Mouse Patrol struck dumb again.

[Raining_again]

daft why are you still watching it if you hate it to death? Glutten for punishment? :blank:

I enjoyed the episode, lolled at all the crows dying, seems really random!

[Retro_Link]

Yeah Daft wtf... just don't watch it!

I didn't understand the 'crow graph' bit... did it showed crows all over the world dying on D-day, if so, how is it already showing that?
Or was it showing that on the same day in the past crows died all over the world?

Enjoying it all so far.

[Daft]

daft why are you still watching it if you hate it to death? Glutten for punishment? :blank:

..........

It is worth watching for its car crash value.

[ReZourceman]

Yeah I thought it was a wicked episode. That woman is an idiot though. Like when the Nazi guy was talking "Get to the point" (or words to that effect)


.....So you've flown halfway around the world for this guy and then don't have the time of day for him?

Also, the teleplay the writer Marc Guggenheim is currently writing Spider-Man (the comic) ....so I lolled at the Spidey Sense reference, smugly predicting its origins.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Yeah Daft wtf... just don't watch it!

I didn't understand the 'crow graph' bit... did it showed crows all over the world dying on D-day, if so, how is it already showing that?
Or was it showing that on the same day in the past crows died all over the world?

Enjoying it all so far.
What're you calling D-Day? If you mean April 29th (or whatever it is) then no - the crows all died on the day of the blackout. The bit at the end of the ep, in Africa in the 90's or whatever, suggests that there were tests for this previously... thus there's an aim of the whole thing, too...

[Raining_again]

I love how they have seemingly accurate data on how many crows are alive at every time imaginable.

the crows died during the blackout - nazi woke up after his, with the dead crows out of his window.

[Aimless]

It's a bit odd that an imprisoned Nazi was the one who tipped off the FBI to death of all the crows, not, you know, the person diligently keeping the crow population database up to date.

[Retro_Link]

the crows all died on the day of the blackout.oh yeah of course, ta!
It's a bit odd that an imprisoned Nazi was the one who tipped off the FBI to death of all the crows, not, you know, the person diligently keeping the crow population database up to date.haha, very true!

[Cube]

I love how they have seemingly accurate data on how many crows are alive at every time imaginable.

Plus they have exact information that shows that crows will reproduce at an accelerated rate for the next few months.

I still find it odd that nobody else seemed to notice...

[SPAMBOT4000]

Episode 4
Yay Dom has arrived. Wonder if he'll be able to pull off a convincing evil guy. I'm more sure that my theory from episode 2 is right now, about that flashforward with PENNNAAAAYYYY! and the guy whose kid is in hospital being some kind of set up or forced thing. Maybe they drugged her or summat I dunno. Anyway who wants a bet that EVIL DAD will turn good in the end.

But yeah the episode was very hmmm and mehh again. I seem to be only following it for the little snippits of info we get about the main overall story arc. The episode plot was rather uninteresting and boring and a lot of that is because I still don't really give a shit about any of the characters. I might be starting to warm to ex-suicide guy but that's about it. Heck I couldn't even tell you any of the character's names, that's how little I care.

The overall plot has me hooked though and I'm obviously going to stick with this until I get some closure about the who/what/why/how on the whole blackout thing. There's just much better TV out there at the moment on a per episode basis.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Episode 4
Yay Dom has arrived. Wonder if he'll be able to pull off a convincing evil guy. I'm more sure that my theory from episode 2 is right now, about that flashforward with PENNNAAAAYYYY! and the guy whose kid is in hospital being some kind of set up or forced thing. Maybe they drugged her or summat I dunno. Anyway who wants a bet that EVIL DAD will turn good in the end.

But yeah the episode was very hmmm and mehh again. I seem to be only following it for the little snippits of info we get about the main overall story arc. The episode plot was rather uninteresting and boring and a lot of that is because I still don't really give a shit about any of the characters. I might be starting to warm to ex-suicide guy but that's about it. Heck I couldn't even tell you any of the character's names, that's how little I care.

The overall plot has me hooked though and I'm obviously going to stick with this until I get some closure about the who/what/why/how on the whole blackout thing. There's just much better TV out there at the moment on a per episode basis.
I agree on the character-name-stuff, and I was a wee bit 'ZOMG CHARLIEEEEE!' (immediately followed by 'wow, that's a line straight out of the clichésaurus right there...). I think we're supposed to basically go "yup, it's inevitable" still, which makes me sad, as it means we're going to have [however many] episodes up til the end of the season with the build-up -- more and more of this 'mosaic' coming together, only to have the season end on what we've seen already.

But, honestly, no matter what anyone else says, it's still one of the best TV shows on at the moment.

[Charlie]

I agree on the character-name-stuff, and I was a wee bit 'ZOMG CHARLIEEEEE!' (immediately followed by 'wow, that's a line straight out of the clichésaurus right there...). I think we're supposed to basically go "yup, it's inevitable" still, which makes me sad, as it means we're going to have [however many] episodes up til the end of the season with the build-up -- more and more of this 'mosaic' coming together, only to have the season end on what we've seen already.

But, honestly, no matter what anyone else says, it's still one of the best TV shows on at the moment.



Yeah, the only character's I can remember are Charlie and her babysitter Nicole. I'm actually getting a bit confused... What relation is Nicole to that guy who's daughter died and he saw in the future? Have we ever seen them together before?

And this FBI boss guy is getting annoying. Why wouldn't he send the main character to whichever-country-it-is if something similar has happened there before? Makes no sense.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I was thinking the same when I saw them together. Figured she's another AA member? Really, I have no idea!

[Retro_Link]

And this FBI boss guy is getting annoying. Why wouldn't he send the main character to whichever-country-it-is if something similar has happened there before? Makes no sense.Yeah it makes no sense in the fact that this is a major global catastophy and yet there's what, two guys on the team!

haha, It really is bad that none of us can remember any of the character names!

[Cube]

haha, It really is bad that none of us can remember any of the character names!

There's Agent, The Wife, The Kid, Future Husband, John Cho, Suicide Doctor, D. Gibbons, Cho's Wife, FBI Guy, Bearded Guy and Babysitter.

I think Future Husband is called Charlie or something.


As for not sending them where they should have gone: the network probably wanted a filler episode.

[Charlie]

There's Agent, The Wife, The Kid, Future Husband, John Cho, Suicide Doctor, D. Gibbons, Cho's Wife, FBI Guy, Bearded Guy and Babysitter.

I think Future Husband is called Charlie or something.


As for not sending them where they should have gone: the network probably wanted a filler episode.

The kid is Charlie. Babysitter is Nicole.

No idea about any of the others.

[Molly]

Did anyone else think they were off to India and then got really dissapointed?

Another meh episode. Ralph Fiennes' brother is positively annoying.

[ReZourceman]

There's Agent, The Wife, The Kid, Future Husband, John Cho, Suicide Doctor, D. Gibbons, Cho's Wife, FBI Guy, Bearded Guy and Babysitter.

I think Future Husband is called Charlie or something.


As for not sending them where they should have gone: the network probably wanted a filler episode.

Genuinely what I call them all.

Did anyone else think they were off to India and then got really dissapointed?

Another meh episode. Ralph Fiennes' brother is positively annoying.

Yeah I thought they were off to India. Happy when they came across Allen Strange though.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Allenstrange1.jpg

I personally enjoyed the episode, and I think He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named's Brother was good when he was playing egg man with his daughter. Gave him an inche or so more depth. Overall I am warming to the characters.

Apart from Wife/Penny. She's annoying/a bitch.

"You were out of line earlier when you told me not to kill a patient, and gave me a perfectly valid reason for why, and why I was being stubborn about it."

Fuck off.

[dan-likes-trees]

They should just call Charlie from lost Charlie and Penny from Lost Penny as to avoid confusion.

Worst episode yet, wtf was all that about the guy turning black, jesus. So many ridiculous characters in this show, like others have said the doctor having a strop because someone pointed out they were going to kill a patient, or the boss not allowing them to go and check out leads. Ahh well it's still moderately good fun

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

new ep; Viewer frustration continues while we get a waste of time for an episode. MEH. Worst ep yet? Yeh. Too many lesbians fully clothed.

[ReZourceman]

But there IS lesbians?

[SPAMBOT4000]

I quite enjoyed this weeks, even though not much really happened.

Are the lesbian pair meant to be on a first date (like they mentioned in the restaurant) or are they meant to have been together a while?! They seem WAY too all over each other in a lovey dovey way for a first date and then in the restaurant the FBI girl said something like "I would NEVER let you down" - not exactly first date kinda talk is it? The writing is pretty shocking at times. I thought the argument between the black FBI boss guy and the main character guy was also a little forced and not very well written.

I've also realised why I STILL can't keep track of the character names, it's because there's way too many of them that have speaking parts! So many characters in this episode were talking and I wasn't sure who we'd seen before and if I was meant to know who they are etc... Like the fat non-boss black fbi guy who popped up in this ep. Have we seen him before or what?! SO confused!

Weird, that was all rant but like I said I did enjoy a lot more than I have the past few.

Maybe it WAS just the lesbians.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Well I'm thinking that the lesbian thing is that they are quickly falling in love, and it'll all turn out that they have a civil partnership together, and that the baby is 'theirs' (borrowed sperm, or whatever).

I didn't care. I want more flashforwards that make a difference but meh.

[Charlie]

I quite enjoyed this weeks, even though not much really happened.

Like the fat non-boss black fbi guy who popped up in this ep. Have we seen him before or what?! SO confused!
.

He's been in it a few times... Is he not the guy who was taking a dump during the blackout? Or was that the FBI boss black guy?

We've definitely seen him before though. He doesn't really do anything though.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

non-boss black guy has been in every episode :P

[SPAMBOT4000]

I think the guy who was taking a dump was the boss FBI black guy. Haha I've obviously been watching this thing with my eyes closed then, I just only really noticed him in this episode. He didn't do much but just always seemed to be there hanging over people's shoulders.

[ReZourceman]

WHERE DO I RECOGNISE THE OTHER LESBIAN FROM?!?!!?!?!


EDIT ; THE OC!!!!!!!!!!1

[Daft]

Why did the guy shoot her and then turn and run. What else was she going to do with that gun she pulled out? Scratch her arse with it? He should have finished her off. Damn she's annoying.

[ReZourceman]

I'd say shes intolerable, but shes a lesbian, so....well shes tolerable.

Not a bad episode. Interesting.

[Daft]

I agree. That was the least horrendous episode yet.

[Retro_Link]

Yeah it was quite a good episode compared to all those so far.

The black towers story has finally moved on 'slightly' after a weeks break... just hurry up and bloody visit the place!!

Sexy lesbian couple ftw, and yeah Rez she was Ryans Chino ex in the OC!
Yeah it seemed immediately obvious that its most likely their baby, and yeah I got the feeling they'd been going out for a while.

But OMG with the names!! haha it shouldn't be this difficult!!
Yeah fat black guy has been in it a few times, not really sure what he does though! and can't remember if we've seen his flashforward or not, don't think we have... he just mentioned in the very first meeting after the blackout that he'd seen the same time and date as main guy.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I feel silly for being the only one who thought it was the worst episode yet, now.

[Raining_again]

I thought it was okay, not the best mind. The development with the towers was quite awesome, but other than that there wasn't really much movement was there?

Gutted that the black fella banked everything on his subordinate, and he was pissed as a fart during his flashforward. :laughing:

[Charlie]

g out for a while.

But OMG with the names!! haha it shouldn't be this difficult!!
Yeah fat black guy has been in it a few times, not really sure what he does though! and can't remember if we've seen his flashforward or not, don't think we have... he just mentioned in the very first meeting after the blackout that he'd seen the same time and date as main guy.

One black guy was on the bog.

The other black guy (think the fat one) was in a meeting with someone. IIRC then that's how they found out everyone was having a flashforward. They go in contact with the woman he was in a meeting with to see if she saw the same thing.

[dan-likes-trees]

WHERE DO I RECOGNISE THE OTHER LESBIAN FROM?!?!!?!?!


EDIT ; THE OC!!!!!!!!!!1

That was annoying me all through the episode, had to google her to work out why I recognised.

Quite enjoyed the ep. I reckon the kid is Harold from Harold and Kumar's, sort of like he knew he was gonna die but wanted a kid, and Janis and the OC chick wanted a kid so yeahse.

[Retro_Link]

That was annoying me all through the episode, had to google her to work out why I recognised.

Quite enjoyed the ep. I reckon the kid is Harold from Harold and Kumar's, sort of like he knew he was gonna die but wanted a kid, and Janis and the OC chick wanted a kid so yeahse.Before we found out she was a lesbian I thought it might possibly be the main guys baby.
Thought he might get jealous of Jack Davenport hanging around, start drinking, be working late with lesbian one night and it would lead to them having a one-night-stand... which in turn would then lead to his wife leaving him and shacking up with Davenport.

But that's unlikely now we know her sexuality, though I guess still slightly possible.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

- lol, NAMEDROPPING. Mark, mark, mark mark mark. That's the main dude's name. I GET IT NOW. His wife is olivia. OF COURSE! Hehe. I think they cottoned on to what we've been saying for a few weeks.

- Quantum bullshit, then? I do like how each episode I change my mind about whether the future is really going to happen or not.

- Script fail still -- "the doctors said it's almost impossible.." ambiguity, plus asian dude and black dude having a chat about how asian dude blacks out after 5 shots... so, er, maybe he was just drinking with 'Mark'? But then, he supposedly dies. But then, frenchie may be TEH ENEMEEEE.

- masked guy was obv. a kid. Chase fail.

- Blue Hand house is cool.

- Still a watchable show. ninjavideo had it caption as "better than heroes but worse than Lost" which I think suits it well.

- Annoying montage of thoughtful poses at the end

- "our experiment killed 20 million people simon, what more is there to say?" ... then he turns the car on and drives off with simon still in it. Fail.

[ReZourceman]

Lol Jayster. Agreed on a lot of those. Especially name dropping. Harold is Dmitri!

I thought it was a great episode.

Soundtrack is a little/lot jarring sometimes/often/constantly.

But TIF.

Liked it. Possibly my favourite episode. A slow but steadily good burner.

And Voldermorts-bretheran is growing on me/I'm preferring his acting a bit. Still a bit broody though. TIF.

[Daft]

The only interesting bits were with the hobbit. The rest is a sure fire cure for insomnia.

[Retro_Link]

Liked it.Yeah was good.
Definately had it's moments... and some dodgy ones as highlighted by Jay.

Thought the scene between Mark (I was as surpised as everyone to find out that's his name!) and his wife was a bit too forced at the end. I wanted him to turn around and say, 'wait a fucking minute, it's no wonder I'll likely start drinking after tonight, what with Commodore Fuck Buddy Norrington having just been in our house!'

Blue hand stuff was cool!

20million people hey, so they're part of the black tower group then I take it?

[ReZourceman]

Black Tower Group? Sounds like an all-black all-man orgy.

[Retro_Link]

haha yeah. The tall black towers in what ever country it was... are they part of the group that built them?

...typing this I just remembered those people in that country didn't die did they, they just blacked out.

Hmm... so where did 20million people die and over what time scale, because you'd have thought someone might start picking up on that!

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

from the Big Event Thing? Well a little village in africa didn't have aeroplanes flying around, or cars with people behind the wheel, or shit like that.

[Retro_Link]

from the Big Event Thing?That would be it! *facepalms*

[Tellyn]

I don't know if this is obvious to everyone else or not, but I'm guessing another blackout happens two minutes and seventeen seconds after the future "begins"? What with the crow dying in the black guy's meeting and all.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Not sure. That bird just flew into the window (sure it was a crow? I think I recall someone saying it, too) whereas the black-out birds all just... dropped dead.

Surely what's more illogical is that there are any crows left to fly into windows.

[Cube]

Surely what's more illogical is that there are any crows left to fly into windows.

A previous episode showed that crows reproduced rapidly in the few months after the blackout.

[Retro_Link]

I don't know if this is obvious to everyone else or not, but I'm guessing another blackout happens two minutes and seventeen seconds after the future "begins"? What with the crow dying in the black guy's meeting and all.Surely if there was another blackout the guy and the woman wouldn't have seen the crow hit the window?

[dan-likes-trees]

Surely if there was another blackout the guy and the woman wouldn't have seen the crow hit the window?

Maybe instead of there being another blackout, everyone will flashforward again, but in present time what they saw happen in their first flashforward will just happen as expected. Which would also explain why noone was like 'omgosh this is my flashforward' during their flashforwards. If that makes sense.

Anyway, I enjoyed the episode again... couple of retarded bits as always though

- if I was a 16 year old who threw some toilet paper at a house, and I was being pursued by a man with a gun I wouldn't risk trying to run away and risk getting shot at.

- Loved the scene with Mark Penny from Lost and generic English bloke, but hated the last scene with Mark and Penny from lost.

[Retro_Link]

Which would also explain why noone was like 'omgosh this is my flashforward' during their flashforwards. If that makes sense.haha, yeah that makes sense!

[Molly]

Charlie/Merry explaining Schrodinger's cat made me laugh, I dunno why.

Edit: - Still a watchable show. ninjavideo had it caption as "better than heroes but worse than Lost" which I think suits it well.[/SPOILER]
It's got nothing on Heroes series 1, that was amazing. But anything after, I guess.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Oh, I'd probably agree with that actually. Heroes s01 was so great, with some thrilling episodes (e20 always springs to mind. Oh, petty future, why can't you be more like you said you'd be?) plus the first few eps I watched on a shitty classroom chair in Shorty's room in halls, so there's kinky memories too.

uhhh... Yeah. Anyway! if this show wants to succeed for future seasons, it really needs to get a hurry on with establishing the antagonist. I don't think the charlie dude (nor that bloke from Coupling) are really the be-all and end-all, so... yah I dunno.SHHTIME

[ReZourceman]

Dude from Couplings good yo. Save the day kinda shit. He just got messed up with the wrong croud/they used him for sexy science knowledge.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

episode 7

Damn. alreadyghosts.com just redirects to abc's flashforward site. Potential awesome fail. Though I guess abc don't want to be seen to be encouraging 'death clubs'.

So that was definitely teh best episode so far. has finally concreted the idea of hope. Some of the other storylines are still lacking in 'oomph', but there's enough mystery around to keep the show entertaining.

[SPAMBOT4000]

Yup quite enjoyed the latest ep too... Not sure what it means for the flashforwards though. Are they potentially pointless or just a shadow of what could be without drastic change?

I also learnt something new this week.

JOHN CHO IS CALLED DIMITRI!

So that's Mark and Dimitri that I know now. Brilliant.

[Daft]

Is Thursday The New Friday?

With Smallville's ratings on the rise, it looks like we may have found a show that survives the Friday Night Death Curse, and just in time: Now it's looking like Thursdays are also nights that will kill our favorite shows.

Both Fringe and FlashForward are seeing ratings in a worrying freefall right now; Meredith has already reported that Fringe was being considered a show in "trouble," but that was before the audience dropped a worrying 23% for this Thursday's episode (In its defense, many people may have been unaware that it was even on; a lot of schedules didn't list the episode, instead telling viewers that it was the seventh game of the World Series). Seeing a less dramatic drop, but still something that's started rumors of a lack of second season renewal, FlashForward slumped even further this week and, as TV By The Numbers showed, continued a speedy decline in the number of viewers each week towards the point of no return.

We already know that Thursday is a packed night of television, but is it so packed that it's going to kill shows we love (or, in the case of FlashForward, like enough to keep watching and hoping for the best)? Or will the success of the V premiere remind networks that Tuesday night is always an option?

http://io9.com/5399445/is-thursday-the-new-friday

Looks like FlashForward is heading for the bin.

[Cube]

Perhaps lower ratings are because the shows aren't that great?

[Ten10]

Hmm that's a shame about those ratings. I don't normally get into these TV dramas such as lost and heroes. Girlfriend tried to get me into NCIS, but didn't love it. I found Flash forward to be gripping enough concept wise to keep me hooked. But everything I seem to like ends up in the bin anyway. (Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles)

[Retro_Link]

In that case they should ditch the supposed 5 series and just wrap it up in 2.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Mmn. The last ep of flashforward was excellent. I'd put money on Word of Mouth bringing ratings up again next week.

[dan-likes-trees]

Mmn. The last ep of flashforward was excellent. I'd put money on Word of Mouth bringing ratings up again next week.

Agreed, it was awesome. The end stunned me, I thought they'd chicken out and string it along some more but no. Woah. Game changed.

[Raining_again]

Oh lord he did it ;___;

Such a sad episode...

[ReZourceman]

SAAAAYYYYY WHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTT??!!!

[Raining_again]

SAAAAYYYYY WHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTT??!!!

zomgwtfbbq i have no idea what the frig is happening!!?! :hmm:


I thought he had her "remains" analysed for DNA or whatever

[ReZourceman]

Yeah this shit just got real yo. I think we're in agreeance that was a fantastic episode. Well it was great and the ending was good.

It had a really interesting balance between flashforwards being true and of course the epic game changers.

Siruos Siruous WTF moments.

Awesome. :bouncy:


But, the black dude who wanted to dazzle hot-middle-aged-chick with his dirty rice died. :( He done splattered.

Or is he........we saw Jesus' daughter with limbs torn off her, and her having been RPG'd but she came back?

BUT

the window is now taped up.

HOLY! WHAT! THE OMG!

[dan-likes-trees]

One flaw with the episode IMHO TBH IMHO

I love the twist the the Black guy commiting suicide, but are we really to believe that that was the first instance worldwide of a flashforward being changed? Big coincidence no?

[ReZourceman]

Who said it was the first instance of a flashforward being changed? Our story is only concentrating on a small number of people.

[dan-likes-trees]

Who said it was the first instance of a flashforward being changed? Our story is only concentrating on a small number of people.

Yeah but my point is that if other flashforwards had changed then it would be common knowledge! Word of mouth, people would have told each other. Everyone would know about it, especially the FBI who are heading an investigation on it.

[Cube]

I thought he had her "remains" analysed for DNA or whatever

I'm positive that in an earlier episode they said that they didn't find much of her. Which from that scene suggests that she was captured, with some limbs left behind.

[Retro_Link]

Great Episode...

Shame because I was just starting to like young black 'dirty rice' guy (tis how he will be remembered), though obviously not enough to remember his name lol!

Regarding 'Army daughter'... there's no reason why the DNA test results couldn't have been fixed. Just because they got some results back from a lab doesn't mean they were real. Maybe the military used her 'death' as a way of sending her some on other undercover mission or something. Artificial leg get?

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

My dad just told me Flashforward is based on a book..? He says he's stopped reading it as it may spoil the show. Who knew?

[Retro_Link]

Me.

And supposedly it's a book based on some kind of true story!

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I love how Flashforward is totally making the British Villain the In Thing again.

But wait- what -- did I miss teh part where bearded alcoholic's daughter returned? I am very confusd. Did I miss an episode since the suicide?

Anyway - why the hell do that 'winner takes all' bit? So idiot. Charlie-from-lost had about 1000 times the amount of chips. Such a ridiculous moment.

NEW BAD GUY MOMENT. Seven of them. Etc. I dunno - not a great follow-up episode, but I guess they need to fill-out the whole 'there's an enemy' lore, so despite these weak foundations I think the future episodes can promise MOAR.

That's a strong theme of this show, actually -- "the future promises stuff!" rather than "each episode is totally awesome!" Unfortunately I'm the sort of person who rarely completely gives up on a show, but a more stable individual might've been tempted by this episode.


Apparantly next week's episode is the last listed on IMDB. That means an xmas break rather than the end of the season, right?

[ReZourceman]

I havn't read your post for fear of spoilers, but bearded chicks daughter came back after the suicide. It was the last scene of the episode.

[Esequiel]

Anyone downloading these? Just watched the first 8 episodes over the space of a few days..... love it!

[Ten10]

I've just been streaming episodes from my good old and faithful. I think episode 8 was a bit meh really. Has a nice twist at the end, but I saw it coming to tell the truth.

[ReZourceman]

Hmmm interesting episode. Raised some questions etc.

Also just noticed the title sequence has something from the episode in. Intriguing.[/Probably late to the party]

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Episode 9's up and around you you want to find it - preair for the ep due to be available in the wee hours of the 20th!

Brian Eno music ftw. As for the rest of ep 9? Well cancer-man's stuff was fairly schmultzy, doo-wop-waa, but I think they pretty much wrapped up his entire story with it. All he has left is... predictable.

The rest of the ep was average.

EDIT: Man, had this window open for ages. Wups.

[ViPeR]

Really enjoying this series though for some reason I have no idea what the characters are called apart from Mark and Sarah. Maybe they'll start to grow on me a few episodes down the line. I'm wondering if all of these flash forwards are going to happen. The theory Charlie (Lost) was explaining about two future outcomes occurring at the same time was interesting. Maybe that means that it's possible the oriental dude could be alive or dead.

[ReZourceman]

Hmm, was a slow episode but nice to get some back story on suicide-dude.

McBeardy is the best acting in the show.

[SPAMBOT4000]

Gotta say that THAT'S how you write a character. It says something about the show when this new asian girl is by far the character I'm most invested in so far. In. One. Episode. I'm fairly sure it's because they wrote her in really well, unlike the rest of the characters. Though there's a definite possibility that it could be that I just dig asian chicks. Could not give a shit about any of the others (aside from maybe John Cho, but dude, it's freaking John Cho).

Anyone else think both Beardy and BlackFBIBoss reacted a little on the STRONG side when Mark asked them about the text to his wife?! I mean he did keep saying he only told TWO people, so it'd be a fairly legitimate question! Not like he went storming in accusing them. Sloppy writing really I think.

Also, seriously could not give a fuck about either of them being alcoholics. The show seems to be making alcoholism a MASSIVE issue. But like, y'know, the whole WORLD has experienced a flash forward into the future. That's fucking crazy shit. Who is really going to care if you have a drink or two?!

ALSO, why the fuck did the english-guy-with-kid tell CharlieFromLost that he cheated at the poker game?! That was PURELY for the viewers benefit, there's no WAY he would have confessed to it in real life as CharlieFromLost would be quite within his rights to demand a non-cheating rematch?! Also the fact that CharlieFromLost seems like not the type of person you want to smugly piss off.

Dunno, a lot of the writing in this show seems to be wayyy way off.

[dan-likes-trees]

Anyone else think both Beardy and BlackFBIBoss reacted a little on the STRONG side when Mark asked them about the text to his wife?! I mean he did keep saying he only told TWO people, so it'd be a fairly legitimate question! Not like he went storming in accusing them. Sloppy writing really I think.


I definitely agree about his boss being a bit too stroppy than he should have been, but the beardy man's reaction wasn't so surprising given he was in a huff anyway. Also I got the impression that he'd like let out his feelings or something during the AA meeting which Mark missed. Also, agreed with ReZ that he's the best actor.

Was a goodish but very filler episode. Definitely not gonna be giving up on it anytime soon. And the show's yet to come up with a anything that completely puts viewers off. Re: Losts polar bear.

'You're still watching lost? Have they explained the polar bear yet? Wtf was that all about!'

Also, wasn't as thrilled with the Japanese chick as everyone else was. Don't see how she's gonna make much impact on anything. Fillar.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Fuck the polar bear. What about that kangaroo!!

Anyway I just came in here to say that I totally rock at watching this episode a week ago.

[Charlie]

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/11/new-tv-show-paradox-is-uks-ans.html

Anyone catch that last night? Just heard about it just now and looks quite interesting. Might watch it on iPlayer later on.


In regards to episode 9. I also watched it last week like all the cool kids do. Thought it was pretty good. I did think that both the AA beardy guy and FBIagents boss overreacted when Mark asked them about the text message. It obviously had to be one of them and it was logical to ask.

[Shorty]

I've only seen 2 episodes, but I want to raise an issue anyway, even if this may have been answered later on in the show or already asked a dozen times in this thread (I don't want to read back through, spoilars!)

In Shakespeare's FlashForward, he saw a world where the incident had obviously occurred, since he was investigating it. So why isn't everyone's FlashForward of them going: "omg, it's 10 o'clock, this is my FlashForward!" And why doesn't the pregnant woman already know the sex of the child?

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Not bad points at all :)

There are occasions in latter episodes which suggest reasons for why that logic-feedback-loop isn't necessarily as straight-forward as that.

But also, I think the way flashforwards have been shown potentially denies us of full comprehension. We're lacking a context, and we don't have access to mosaic ourselves so we can't check everyone on the planet's flashforwards. Maybe there are people whose flashforward was a giant "Hey it's the flashforward party that we saw in our flashfoward!" party...

They've been very loose about specifically how the flashforwards were experienced consciously. Are you a spectator? A passenger? In the drivers seat? is it like a movie, or a video game, or like a mis-mash of images, tones, emotions, feelings?

I don't understand why the pregnant woman would know the sex of her child -- her flashforward was her having a scan. Maybe she was finding out then, or maybe she just asked not to know... :|

I do think it'll be interesting to see your rationality facing certain parts of this show :P

[Shorty]

I don't understand why the pregnant woman would know the sex of her child -- her flashforward was her having a scan. Maybe she was finding out then, or maybe she just asked not to know... :|

Becauuuse: In her flashforward, she says "I want to know" and the nurse says "It's a girl".

But surely you wouldn't ask that, since you saw it in the FlashForward 6 months ago.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Ok, got you!

But! As I said; it's not clear precisely how people experienced the flashforwards. Ep.9 has a great example that essentially suggests that the flashforwards were hazy, and not entirely clear like actual right-now experience is.

Just... watch the rest before I accidentally say something spoilar! There's a good debate to be had about all this (when is there not, with time travel?) once you have more of the show to use as questions/answers.

(I'm not saying they've totally covered their asses with everything, and I'm not even saying that they will when the season's complete -- I'm fairly sure they won't because they'll want a second season. But I hear that the book opens with precisely describing how and what is going on, so if you really want to know then I'm sure there's answers out there)

[dan-likes-trees]

I've only seen 2 episodes, but I want to raise an issue anyway, even if this may have been answered later on in the show or already asked a dozen times in this thread (I don't want to read back through, spoilars!)

In Shakespeare's FlashForward, he saw a world where the incident had obviously occurred, since he was investigating it. So why isn't everyone's FlashForward of them going: "omg, it's 10 o'clock, this is my FlashForward!" And why doesn't the pregnant woman already know the sex of the child?

This is totally gonna be the question that everyone who dosn't watch FF will ask. It is a good point nonetheless.
I already said what I suspect will happen a page or two back but anyway,

I think what has to happen for the whole thing to make sense is for them to become sort of unconcious and not in control of their actions over the 2 minutes 17 seconds of their flashforward. Thus it would carry out as they saw it and noone would react like 'omgs this is my flashforward innit!!'

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

You think they'll not be 'in control' when the April 23rd (or whenever) moment rolls around?! That's just silly!

[ReZourceman]

Oh god, that was an awesome episode IMO. The best yet probably. It was very awesome. Quite...unpredictable ish.

That was cool!!!!!!!!!!

9/10 TBHBBQ.

[Daft]

Rez, go watch Battlestar Galactica.

[ReZourceman]

In jew time!

[Molly]

Text me at about 8.15am and I might remember to bring it in for you!!

[ReZourceman]

Text me at about 8.15am and I might remember to bring it in for you!!

I don't want them yet (Thanks lol) I want to catch up on Dexter/The Prisoner first.

[Molly]

I don't want them yet (Thanks lol) I want to catch up on Dexter/The Prisoner first.
Madness...

[Daft]

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Had to be said.

[Happenstance]

Every episode of this show feels like a M Night Shyamalananananananananananan movie, I keep expecting him to pop up shouting "What a twist!"

[Daft]

It's like The Happening. Except slower and much much longer.

[ReZourceman]

Well I thought the new episodes were awesome. I love how its so coherent, and there is answers.

[ReZourceman]

I have mega loved the last two cliff hangers.

[dan-likes-trees]

I have mega loved the last two cliff hangers.

This.

I think it's just still watching. I still find it very enjoyable, if pretty silly and such.

That said, I accidentally downloaded the wrong episode, the latest, and thus missed the one before it. Took a good half an hour to realize my mistake.

[Ten10]

Just saw episode 15. Cliff hangers and turns galore. This is currently the only tv drama I'm still watching. Lost is dumb, never got into heroes. And Prison break stopped making sense once they got out of prison.

I think the long term hiatus knocked it off some people's radar, but I think it's worth catching up on.

[ReZourceman]

I think the long term hiatus knocked it off some people's radar, but I think it's worth catching up on.

I'd definitely agree, its awesome, and theres actually a specific plot.

[ReZourceman]

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShadowV7]

10 virtual cookies on the guys from Keiko's garage place killing Nicole for her 'taking' Bryce from her.

Last couple of episode have been pretty interesting. Glad to see it's picking up.

[Nicktendo]

This programme makes me want to engage in a five knuckle shuffle. right there. right then. even when I watch with my mum. mind blowing.

Does anyone else think she's bluffing to weed out Merry from LotR as a bad guy or is she ACTUALLY a bad guy? Can't wait to see how they play it all out.

[ReZourceman]

Nah I think she's the real deal evil. I assume/presume/speculate now of course that her FlashForward is bull shit, and we'll find out her real one soon...en...ough....OH GOD SHE KILLS DMITRI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait no...thats not right./ Well she might kill him, but obviously her Flashforward cannot be of her killing him.

[arnold]

Nah I think she's the real deal evil. I assume/presume/speculate now of course that her FlashForward is bull shit, and we'll find out her real one soon...en...ough....OH GOD SHE KILLS DMITRI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait no...thats not right./ Well she might kill him, but obviously her Flashforward cannot be of her killing him.

Nah, I'm guessing the CIA guy is going to kill dimitri, the way he was holding the gun when Charlie asked what he saw, he just says "His Job"and he twists the gun a little bit.

[Mr_Odwin]

That guy is the one outside of the house that the little girl overhears saying that Mark is dead, so his flashforward would be that.

This episode was full of ridiculousness. My least favourite part was when they looked into a chess tournament and then the times between moves and decided that the times were related to morse code. Like anyone would ever go down that avenue of thought.

[Mr_Odwin]

That guy is the one outside of the house that the little girl overhears saying that Mark is dead, so his flashforward would be that.

This episode was full of ridiculousness. My least favourite part was when they looked into a chess tournament and then the times between moves and decided that the times were related to morse code. Like anyone would ever go down that avenue of thought.

[SPAMBOT4000]

Finally caught up with this since it came back and... wow. Srsly, it's like a whole new show. Actually intriguing and main arc advancing storylines. I like very much. It does have the faint whiff of a show cramming 'answers' in though as it realises it may not get another season.

I REALLY hope the twist with the lesbian-pregnancy-woman (still don't know half the character names) was just a bluff to out Charlie-From-Lost. It doesn't really makes sense otherwise, we've seen too much of her normal life outside her job and there hasn't been a HINT of her being eeeeeeevil.

[Nicktendo]

we've seen too much of her normal life outside her job and there hasn't been a HINT of her being eeeeeeevil.

That's what makes it so purrrfect.

[dan-likes-trees]

Finally caught up with this since it came back and... wow. Srsly, it's like a whole new show. Actually intriguing and main arc advancing storylines. I like very much. It does have the faint whiff of a show cramming 'answers' in though as it realises it may not get another season.

I REALLY hope the twist with the lesbian-pregnancy-woman (still don't know half the character names) was just a bluff to out Charlie-From-Lost. It doesn't really makes sense otherwise, we've seen too much of her normal life outside her job and there hasn't been a HINT of her being eeeeeeevil.

Do agree. Anyway, just caught up, I love this ridiculous program. But most of all, BAALLLTTAAAARRRR

[dan-likes-trees]

MASSIV BUMPIDGE!!!

Anyway, it's all finished and wrapped up, anyone watch to the end? I'm quite glad it's been canceled. Everything wrapped up nicely and the writers actually seemed to know where everything was headed from the start (fuck you Lost)

Yeah it was all very silly and the bad guys were all hilariously cartoony, but I thought it was a good little watch nonetheless

[ShadowV7]

I've watched the finale as well. I thought it was really good, not that happy it's cancelled since another season would have been rather good. Knowing that there wasn't going to be another season is what ruined the episode for me.

[Mokong X-C]

Yeah I watched it earlier, and was really enjoying it and god damn I'm so pissed off it's been cancelled, the 2nd half of the season was so much better than the 1st and a 2nd season could have kept that flow going.

Was happy for your man in Afganaistan that his daughter was ok and for Keiko and the Bryce. I'd love to see where they were going to take things with the next flashforward. Looks like it was flashing further into the future like 2015. Would love to find out what Demitri saw in his flashforward...if anything...lol, they could have made it a running joke that he keeps having no vision. And I'd like to see more of Baltar, haha.

Damn you crappy studio execs.

[ReZourceman]

Yeah the finale was fucking bad ass. Sigh.

If it isn't "saved" I wonder if there will be a continuation in some form. Namely a comic book (which makes sense as one of the top execs is a high profile comic book writer)

[Tales]

Saw the last 7 episodes today. Awesome show. I loved how the future seemed change in the very last minute, but then happened anyway only with small changes(the black man in the toilet was hilarious), showing you can change the future but only a little. So happy for Keiko and Bryce. Lovely side story.

[Ten10]

I'm glad that the ending is open ended enough to finish the series enough there. But also there's enough there in case some other studio picks it up.