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Dante
16-09-2009, 12:33 AM
Update:
The presence of more than one version of Nier has created some confusion amongst gamers. Realizing this, PR representatives for Square Enix set out to clear up some of the misunderstandings.
As it turns out, Nier Replicant and Nier Gestalt are the same game, with the only difference being a marginally different protagonist. In Replicant, the hero is a younger boy who is trying to save his sister from the dreaded "Black Scrawl" disease, while in Gestalt he's a man trying to save his daughter.
"[The development team] felt Japanese audiences would relate better to a hero who falls more in line with classic JRPG protagonist," the representative explained, referring to the younger hero in Replicant.
Nier Gestalt will be the only version that is released in North America and Europe, and it will be referred to simply as "Nier." It will be released on both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
US/EU/JP - NieR (Gestalt) [360/PS3] - In NieR (Gestalt), the protagonist, a swordsman named Nier, is on a search to find a cure for his sick daughter, infected with the Black Scrawl virus which ravaged the world and rendered human civilization a shadow of its former glory. However, on his quest Nier will encounter things that not even the strongest of warriors could overcome. The Gestalt trailer was released first, under the working title "Nier", with both the 360 and PS3 logos attached to it. Square-Enix made Nier older for Gestalt, as well as having him save his daughter instead of his sister, as it will resonate more with the western audience.
Japan - NieR Replicant [PS3] - In NieR Replicant , the protagonist, a young swordsman named Nier, is on a search to find a cure for his sister, infected with the Black Scrawl virus which ravaged the world and rendered human civilization a shadow of its former glory. However, on his quest Nier will encounter things that not even the strongest of warriors could overcome.
Mundi
16-09-2009, 12:49 AM
The name of this game and the fact that the woman (It´s a Squeenix game so could as well be a guy...) in the screenshot is a handkerchief from being naked make it impossible for me to take the this game seriously.
Seriously... Nier? It sounds lika a noise that a cartoon villain would make when he´s disgusted at something.
After writing that I read the text and wow.... the name is suddenly the least bizarre about this game.
The name Replicant makes me want to make a Blade Runner joke but I don´t want to associate that with this.
Which by saying that I already have...
Dante
16-09-2009, 12:51 AM
NieR Gestalt (360) is made to look very western in style unlike NieR Replicant (PS3).
NieR Gestalt (360)
http://www.andriasang.com/galleries/2009/09/10/nier/2132391382_view.jpg
NieR Replicant (PS3)
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/314/585/nier05.jpg
Deathjam
16-09-2009, 12:58 AM
NieR Gestalt (360) is made to look very western in style unlike NieR Replicant (PS3).
NieR Gestalt (360)
http://www.andriasang.com/galleries/2009/09/10/nier/2132391382_view.jpg
NieR Replicant (PS3)
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/314/585/nier05.jpg
First pic doesn't look very western to me, just messy.
Dante
16-09-2009, 01:06 AM
First pic doesn't look very western to me, just messy.
Here is the NieR Gestalt e3 trailer (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/24854) when is was known as NieR for 360/PS3.
Its pretty interesting; its got me...interested. :indeed:
Dante
16-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Its pretty interesting; its got me...interested. :indeed:
Which one? :p
Nolan
16-09-2009, 02:25 AM
The one with a Penis, oh wait...
Dante
18-09-2009, 09:16 AM
http://i28.tinypic.com/2dwdar.gif
NieR Replicant Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgbgE2Ia6D0&feature=player_embedded#t=29)
qgbgE2Ia6D0
Nier Gestalt - 360 exclusive - Play as a father saving his daughter
Nier Replicant - PS3 exclusive - Play as brother saving his sister
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/78051420090917_165818_0_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/78051420090917_165818_1_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/78051420090917_165818_2_big.jpg
Reason to why the girl becomes a hermaphrodite because of male demon possessed her left side body as a child, and became a hermaphrodite. She grew up being teased by the other kids, and as an adult, she's developed this complex to dress sexy, but her attitude is very brash and manly.
fV_VnTSTNn0
<3 :D
Deathjam
18-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Thanks for all that. But still makes no sence to me :heh:
jammy2211
18-09-2009, 03:23 PM
These games really confuse the hell out of me, why are there two versions? Wheres the logic? Are they the same game? :S.
I'd guess if they're different games they'll both get ports in a years time or something.
Choze
22-09-2009, 07:36 PM
Its an expensive experiment.
dr4hkon
22-09-2009, 07:41 PM
These games really confuse the hell out of me, why are there two versions? Wheres the logic? Are they the same game?
Wish I'd knew...I guess it's the same game with maybe tiny differences.
That art style is cool. And the music...wonderful. Got me interested.
Now I need more infos on gameplay.
Dante
23-09-2009, 12:05 PM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8997/07820121120x201531.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6643/791216x1532.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7616/801214x1531.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1829/12037078.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9508/29418065.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/783/811215x1535.jpg
Dante
18-12-2009, 10:54 PM
US/EU only gets NieR Gestalt [father and daughter]as NieR than NieR Replicant because Sqaure-Enix believes western market likes to play as muscle men and lots of swearing.
So could someone rename this topic as NieR please?
New NieR Teaser (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/kaine-teaser-nier/60144)
Dante
18-12-2009, 11:12 PM
SquEnix make shit games.
Sqaure-Enix are the publisher and Cavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavia_(company)) are the ones making the games.
Dante
18-12-2009, 11:18 PM
I'm still right. :heh:
I am more interest in Resonance of Fate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_of_Fate) than this game now.
Sheikah
19-12-2009, 12:48 AM
I'm still right. :heh:
No way. Play DQVIII.
Dante
04-01-2011, 10:33 PM
So has anyone played this game?
Aimless
04-01-2011, 10:53 PM
Yes.
Generally good soundtrack, some interesting ideas — the dungeons are all quite different — but the moment-to-moment gameplay isn't that great, the presentation leaves a lot to be desired and it suffers from that particular brand of melodrama that afflicts a lot of Japanese releases.
It's not terrible, just a... Nier miss!
Mundi
04-01-2011, 11:27 PM
Coincidentally, just got this game recently.
Not long in. but so far I liked it.
Soundtrack is great, gameplay is alright so far, but the sidequests and things like fishing get very tedious.
Nolan
05-01-2011, 01:09 AM
I've heard a lot of good things actually. Namely that it is worth buying.
My copy is still in the mail...should have been here by now (logic dictates, seeing as how everything else ordered on the same day already arrived) but it's not expected until the 6th I think.
Ten10
05-01-2011, 01:24 AM
I've heard good things too. A reviewer from classic games room named it their game of 2010 which says quite a lot. I think it's going pretty cheap on amazon so I'm likely to pick it up.
Nolan
06-01-2011, 12:26 PM
This game can go fuck itself and it's fishing mini-game.
I was having fun and quite enjoying the game for the first few hours of play. Then it decided to send me on a main quest to go get a fish...After trying for about 15 minutes I managed to catch some seaweed.
The problem is, that after you hook a fish you're suppose to move the rod in the opposite direction of the fish to "decrease it's health" and then you catch it. Well, the vast vast vast majority of the time, the fish gets away before it starts moving, and of the 2 times that didn't happen for me, (once being seaweed) the damn thing got off the hook WHILE I WAS MOVING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
I don't know, maybe I'm just dumb as my friend who recommended it didn't mention fishing issues, in fact only Yahtzee did. He appropriately said it sucked.
The game is fun though if you think you can get past the fishing.
Edit:
Well....after reading how to fish on gamefaqs, it's a bit easier. No where does the game mention that you should keep the left stick held back at all times. There is also the fact that the ass who gives you the fishing rod tells to you fish at the spot right next to him....according to the guide that spot is too high level for beginners. >.<
My catch count is now up to 1, Aquatic Plant and 1. Rusty Bucket...
Mundi
06-01-2011, 12:53 PM
I spend nearly 2 hours trying to do that fishing quest.
Only to realize that I was at the wrong beach.
Apparently, thy guy standing at the beach who told me that I could catch this specific fish at the beach meant that I could catch it on the other beach that was trough a tunnel nearby not the one he was currently at.
My frustration could power a sun.
Magnus
18-09-2011, 02:48 AM
I didn't have any problems with the fishing quest, since the game marks out where you need to go on your map. But in the back of my mind I remembered watching Joystiq's embarrassing fishing video (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/03/nier-review-fail/), so I knew I needed to keep my eyes open. It probably also helped that I'd already explored the town at that point, so I knew there was another beach nearby.
Never had much luck fishing again after that, though. Only managed to catch underwater plants and humongous buckets.
So, um... only two pages? I didn't get this game when it was released after it received less-than-stellar review scores (to be fair, it was never really on my radar to begin with because how awful it looked the first time they showed it off), but I picked it up cheap a few weeks ago.
And I really enjoyed it.
Not that it's not flawed, because it definitely is. The graphics are... I guess technically competent, at least? The problem is more that the world is really bland for the most part and the character design (outside of two of the main characters) is painfully uninspired.
The sidequests are all uniformly awful and most of them are just given to you by NPCs that lack any real personality, like basically every single NPC in this game. I think I played about three sidequests that were more interesting than "I need [number] of for [reason]", and even then the actual tasks weren't much fun.
I don't think the gameplay is as bad as people make it out to be. It's not great, but it's not bad either. Combat is simple - you can use your weapon, dodge and cast magic. There's not a lot of exploration, but you're encouraged to do some of it if you want to find items for sidequests or materials for upgrading your weapons. So it's pretty standard.
I did like how the game wasn't afraid of mixing things up, though. There are some shmup-inspired sections, at least one boss ripped off from [I]Zelda, a dungeon that gives you rules you need to follow and even an area that's inspired by text adventures.
However, the reason I think people should play the game is the story. It takes a while to get going and doesn't really pick up until you get your second party member. Things get a lot more interesting from that point on, though, and the story gets really good once you get your third party member. The story is pretty dark and... I don't know. It was something different. I really enjoyed it.
I really recommend doing a New Game+ to get the most out of the story. It plops you back in two thirds of the way through the game and at that point you're so over-leveled that it only takes three or four hours to finish the game again. When you replay the game, you get some more backstory for one of the main characters (both in prose right at the start and then occasionally through voice-overs throughout the game), as well as several extra scenes that wouldn't have made sense when playing through the game the first time. It also features a different ending that complements the first ending perfectly. Seriously, if you find yourself enjoying the story even a little bit, it's worth the extra effort.
(The game also has two more endings that can be reached if you play through the last third of the game a third time, but you need all of the game's thirty weapons to get them, so they're a bit more effort (the endings are also the only things that are different when you play the game a third time). They feel more like alternate endings, but they're good in their own right and are worth checking out on YouTube.)
But yeah. Play Nier for the story. It's worth going through an otherwise average-but-decent game for.
Also, the music is pretty good.
Aimless
18-09-2011, 11:59 AM
I suppose my summation of the game is that it's more interesting than it is good. A bit like Deadly Premonition.
I enjoyed it because it was different, but it's a hard game to recommend without good knowledge of another's tastes.
Magnus
18-09-2011, 02:49 PM
Yeah, it's... um... it's not a game for people looking for a good game. It's a game for people who are willing to look past the many flaws of an average game because it has one aspect that's really great and different.
I realize that not everyone is willing to do that, but for those who are, I thought the story and characters really made up for everything else.
It's funny you should mention Deadly Premonition, because that's another game I got for many of the same reasons, but I haven't had time to check it out yet.
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