George Best's last hours

[Raining_again]

So its been confirmed that hes pretty ill and dying

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4465456.stm

What are your opinions of him? I think its terrible how he abused the liver that was given to him, but i can understand that its probably not easy to deal with being an alcoholic.

discuss :heh:

[AshMat]

Trying not to sound too disrespectful but it's pretty much his own fault. You have to feel for his family though, having to see him in this state

[Monopolyman]

More or less what retro-lover said. He was given another liver and again abused it. Still, sad to see his life slippiong away. He was a legend, even if he was a ManU player :heh:

[JonSt]

It is about time, he had had chance after chance, given care that no one else would get and he has still abused it. Good riddance I say.

[Raining_again]

It is about time, he had had chance after chance, given care that no one else would get and he has still abused it. Good riddance I say.

I was goin to say something like that, but then changed my mind. some poor sod died, gave their liver, when it could have been given to someone that would have used it better really. youd think if you got a second chance youd really make the most of it.

[Karl619]

Its not nice saying good ridance but i can understand from where you are coming from but still its a little disrespectful

[kyletherobot]

the person who gave their liver to him may also have been a bad person so their liver may have got what it deserved....maybe

[Raining_again]

the person who gave their liver to him may also have been a bad person so their liver may have got what it deserved....maybe

but someone that would have appreciated it more could have had the chance to live.

[The3rdChildren]

It's a real shame. He was a great footballer, he doesn't deserve to die like this. He also doesn't deserve to have people who don't even know him shit on him, so lay off guys.

[Fields]

I can't believe some of the replies in this thread. He may not have been perfect, but the man's dying. Calling him 'scum' and saying 'good riddance' is well out of order. :mad:

[Dan Dare]

on the liver topic, the NHS is planning to introduce psychologists to assess the risk of people failing to stay off the juice after a transplant.


you cant really shit on the guy though, for all his behavior you have to remember that being an alcoholic must be living hell, especially when it drove best to the lenghths it did. i do pity him though, he was obviously incredibly talented and its a great shame.

[EEVILMURRAY]

Didn't Georgie boy fuck up more than one liver? Word on the street is he fucked two.

[Ramar]

Its a shame really, he was a very talented footballer. But like many others has said its his fault, he ruined a fantastic second chance. Still I don't wish him to die, and I feel for his family.

[Blackfox]

It's a real shame. He was a great footballer, he doesn't deserve to die like this. He also doesn't deserve to have people who don't even know him shit on him, so lay off guys.

Hear Hear.

Best was a legend, and how many of you are perfect?

Anyone more shitty comments I'll delete him. I dont care if you think im being a fucking Nazi becuase of it either. He was and is a legend.

EDIT:

I can't believe some of the replies in this thread. He may not have been perfect, but the man's dying. Calling him 'scum' and saying 'good riddance' is well out of order. :mad:

Even a Scouser, a Manc's rival, appreciates Best.

[Wesley]

Aww I feel so sorry for him. I mean, all that booze going down his throat, it was't his fault: he didn't buy it and drink it out of free will and doesn't deserve this at all.

[Dan Dare]

actually, alcoholism is a genetic fault so in many ways yes, it wasnt his fault.

[Blackfox]

Its not actually his second liver that is causing him to die. Its caused by a lung infected, causing interal bleeding, as a result of immune supressing drugs, for any of you that bothered to read the article...

[JonSt]

It's a real shame. He was a great footballer, he doesn't deserve to die like this. He also doesn't deserve to have people who don't even know him shit on him, so lay off guys.

Actually, i would beg to differ

My uncle is an alcoholic, who has destroyed his liver. I would say the same thing about him as well, but he is even more of a dick than best is/

On the other hand, my auntie suffered liver failure - she was a very healthy person, who i loved very dearly, she needed a new liver - but never got one. So to see someone like best just destroy the second chance he got, it really pisses me off.

[Blackfox]

Actually, i would beg to differ

My uncle is an alcoholic, who has destroyed his liver. I would say the same thing about him as well, but he is even more of a dick than best is/

On the other hand, my auntie suffered liver failure - she was a very healthy person, who i loved very dearly, she needed a new liver - but never got one. So to see someone like best just destroy the second chance he got, it really pisses me off.

Its not actually his second liver that is causing him to die. Its caused by a lung infected, causing interal bleeding, as a result of immune supressing drugs, for any of you that bothered to read the article...

He died becuase of his first chance. If your auntie got the liver transplant she eeded she would have been vunerable to infection, like Best was. Would you like it if everystarted started saying she had another chance but ruined it. Don't think so.

[JonSt]

He died becuase of his first chance. If your auntie got the liver transplant she eeded she would have been vunerable to infection, like Best was. Would you like it if everystarted started saying she had another chance but ruined it. Don't think so.


I dont care how he is dying, the point is, he has still ruined the liver that could have been given to someone else. He also had the rules bent for him in order to recieve the liver, would you or I have had that? i highely doubt it.

[Grebe]

Anyone more shitty comments I'll delete him. I dont care if you think im being a fucking Nazi becuase of it either.

Scary huh? Nazi Bastard

All of you guys werent old enough to know George Best for what he was in his younger years and so what he enjoyed a drink or two. Im sure if you all werent internerds that you might be too. Thing is, he was the best player to grace this game, in my opinion better than pele, and although i wasnt around at the time to know him for who he really was too, alot of people i know who were are quite upset as he was a genuine guy who talked to the fans and wasnt a complete arsehole cause he had alot of money and however much he drank, doesnt deserve a) this death b) you dudes being motherfuckers and chatting shit about him on an internet forum.

Respect Bestie, Fuck you dicks

[elniro]

you cant say good hes dyin. He was a fans favourite and still is, and for that it must not only be for his football skills but something else too

My dad and relatives of that age all tell me how great a football player George Best was and they tell me he was the best they've seen after Pele, i wished i got to see him play.

[Sexual Chocolate]

Ruined a perfectly good liver that he got through a donation, and then started drinking again. When someone else who will of appreciated it more coold of got it. Imagine how the family of the person who donated it feel, the person if buried without his/her organs and george best goes and wastes it like he wastes his life.

[Girly hiyaz!~ Gamer]

I won't loose any sleep over it. It's his own fault, so....

It is a pretty sad way to die though.

[Ten10]

To be blunt, he deserves everything coming his way

[Blackfox]

So many people in this thread have lost the respect i had for them.

[JonSt]

So many people in this thread have lost the respect i had for them.

Perhaps i was slightly to blunt originally, its never nice to see someone dying, although it doesnt put me up or down, it obviously effects others.

The point i trying to make is he got help that no other normal person would get and he still wouldnt stop, it annoys me when people harp on about him being a legend, Being a legend is nothing to do with that is happening.

[dukkadukka]

this is really sad :( he's always seemed intent on self-destruction, and i suppose he's got what he wanted now(indirectly), i still feel awful for his family though.

[Arragaun]

No death is cause for celebration. Not ever, no matter what the person did in their life, death is not deserved.

[JonSt]

The fact of the matter is, the system bent the rules to help him, and he just took the piss out of all the people that helped him by drinking again. That is the reason i feel no sympathy for him.

[Arragaun]

The fact of the matter is, the system bent the rules to help him, and he just took the piss out of all the people that helped him by drinking again. That is the reason i feel no sympathy for him.
Everyone's got weaknesses man...

[RoadKill]

Everyone's got weaknesses man...

If it was heroin and he destroyed something and had it replaced and then took heroin again would you feel sad for him?

Come on, this is bullshit and you know it, he took the piss and I'm pretty sure he knew he was, which is plain disrespect.

When he started drinking after the transplant he should have been taken into rehab.

[Arragaun]

Sorry everyone but I personally can't feel angry at someone who's about to be dead. Partly because I'm weak like he is. If I was in his position it's likely that I'd have done exactly the same thing.

[Grebe]

If it was heroin and he destroyed something and had it replaced and then took heroin again would you feel sad for him?



Of course I would be sad. Im not going to judge someone like that because drugs gotta hold of him/her. Yes i maybe angry at the influences of drugs on that person but in no way shape or form will I be angry at the person.

[elniro]

Ruined a perfectly good liver that he got through a donation, and then started drinking again. When someone else who will of appreciated it more coold of got it. Imagine how the family of the person who donated it feel, the person if buried without his/her organs and george best goes and wastes it like he wastes his life.

wtf are you goin on about! Yea im sure that dead person would have needed those organs so much more, come off it man.
Best needed that liver and was given it, its difficult to get hooked off something.

People go on about how insensitive others are and what dicks they are, well it's all a joke, fuckin hell.

[JonSt]

wtf are you goin on about! Yea im sure that dead person would have needed those organs so much more, come off it man.
Best needed that liver and was given it, its difficult to get hooked off something.

People go on about how insensitive others are and what dicks they are, well it's all a joke, fuckin hell.

He is on about the family of the dead man you idiot, not the man himself.

[LukeLee]

Wow, you people are hard and being completely unemotional. Yeah celebrities get privelidges, it's not fair, but George Best is not an exception and you would not turn down a second chance at life if you could get it, you would use any means. George will have lead a troubled life, he will have tried hard on many times to try and sort his life out, but like all of us, he too had weaknesses and there is nothing more difficult than overcoming an addiction.

Best was not a particularly bad person, he was just like the rest of us - human, capable and likely of making mistakes. You are not judge, jury and executioner, i am ashamed of this community looking at this thread. As for the argument of him not making the most of his second chance, well people dont always manage it, there will be plenty of people who new recieved organs who made the same mistakes again. Life is not like films, people dont often feel life-changing revelations or become 'born-again christians'.

His life could of been better and should of been better, he too knew that and wanted better for himself, but couldnt make it happen (it is not so easy).

I personally won't miss him, but i didnt know him, not personally, not as a footballer, just knew him a little as a media figure in interviews. I do however feel for his family, who will feel pain and for him too, whose life ends relatively short, loss of many oppurtunities.

[Arragaun]

Luke's got my thoughts to a tee there. Good one.

[Caris]

Im gonna say what i honestly feel, and that is it IS his own fault hes like this, but at the end of the day no matter what people do there is never an excuse for someone to loose there 1 and only Life.

[Ian]

Jon!!

Good riddance? To the best player this country, and maybe even the world, has ever seen?

Go find some videos of George Best playing football...he could do things with a ball that most players can only dream about. On top of that, he was a nice guy who made time for the fans, something sorely lacking in today's game.

He was an alcoholic, true, but I'm guessing you've never faced any kind of addiction on your life. If you had, you would know only too well it's not just a case of saying 'Oh, I won't do it anymore then'.

George Best gave more pleasure to more people than you or I could contemplate, and his passing does not deserve your disrespect.

[Ten10]

The fact of the matter is he was given a second chance and he abused it. If it were truely his desire to continue living he would have taken more care of himself.

[Blackfox]

The fact of the matter is he was given a second chance and he abused it. If it were truely his desire to continue living he would have taken more care of himself.

So do many addicts. You cant just go "ill stop today" its a physical addiction. YOu need to have it otherwise the cells dont operate properly.

[Towers]

So Gary Glitter? Has an addiction to young girls. Possibly going to get shot.. Anyone else happy? I am. Or should I not because his music ment so much to me?

I'm not saying both things are the same. You could say that George Best was only hurting himself and not other people. Although getting a liver that could of been better respected by someone else is indirectly hurting someone.

I'm not glad he's dying but and it is a shame but I'm not going to get all emotional about I'm afraid as I do feel like people with addictions need to get help. He just wasnt strong enough to cope. Sad yes but if he had not been a football legend you'd probably be slating him.

[Shenlong]

I don't think the Gary Glitter comparison holds, that's not exactly a physical dependancy or anything. I personally believe he deserves to get shot regardless. But yeah even if Best has 'wasted' his 2nd liver, didn't someone say he was dieing from a lung infection or something? you can't go calling him disrespectful things cos he abused his liver if he's dieing of a completely different thing can you?! I can't say i'll miss him as i have no emotional tie or anything to him, but it's never nice for someone to die (well there are some exceptions), and i'm sure a lot of people in the country held him with great regard too, so perhaps people should take the feelings of others into consideration here even if it is via an online persona only.

[Ian]

There's a world of difference between a physical addiction to alcohol and the disgusting world of child porn and child abuse.

[Towers]

Many people say paedophila is a mentall illness and an addiction but that's besides the point

My main point was that we can't simply dismiss previous actions just because you admired him as a footballer. He did carry on drinking despite being given a new liver and I think that's what has most people's backs up.
As I have previously said I don't wish bad upon him and I'm not happy he's suffering but I can understand some people's thoughts when they say some things.

[AshMat]

To all the people saying he cant jsut stop drinking:
REHAB!

[Mr_Odwin]

The second half of this thread is a lot nicer than the first half.

I think the point is that it's generally sad when people that aren't evil die as it has repercussions on the family. We all have weaknesses and just because Best's were obvious to us doesn't mean that he deserves our hate. More pity.

[elniro]

He is on about the family of the dead man you idiot, not the man himself.

just shut your face man, shitt.
There's no point explaining anything to you

[Mr_Odwin]

Can't be bothered with this anymore. Stop flaming each other.

[Blackfox]

RIP George Best.

http://www.poster.net/best-george/best-george-photo-xl-george-best-6207785.jpg

..I hope they remember me for the football.

[soag]

George Best is a god here in Northern Ireland we worship the ground he walked on, he will be greatly missed.

*chants* theres only one Georgie Best, theres only one Georgie Best

[Blackfox]

I'm going to leave this open to people who might want to pay tribute to the man. If you dont want to - then dont and keep snide comments to yourself. Please dont let this be locked again :)

[JonSt]

No doubting the mans' genious with a round ball, he could do things others only dreamed off.

R.I.P Bestie

[Shenlong]

R.I.P Mr Best, its quite weird knowing that the man's gone when he was just shown yesterday on t.v. and in the newspapers. Makes you realise how truly short and fragile life is. I for one shall remember him for his magic on the pitch just as he'd have liked.

[elniro]

RIP Mr.George Best

I wish Northern Ireland had made it through to World Cup during your time on pitch then the whole world could have witnessed your footballing talent.

[scubahood]

Should of stopped drinking when he got that new liver no sympathy coming from my direction

[Dan Dare]

Should of stopped drinking when he got that new liver no sympathy coming from my direction


good job he stopped drinking some time ago and died of an infection and organ failure brought on by immune system repressing medication for his liver, eh?


shut the hell up.

[elniro]

Should of stopped drinking when he got that new liver no sympathy coming from my direction

Look if you dont want to pay your respects for Best then stay the fuck out.

And like Dan Dare said he did stop drinking, he died due to other reasons.

[scubahood]

I wonder why his organs failed perhaps cause he was a drinker?

[Raining_again]

hey come on theres no need to be nasty, he was a drinker yeah, but sometimes its not that easy to stop something when your addicted, he was a good football player, and lots of people loved him here by the sounds of it.

RIP Best. Northern Ireland won't see another footballer like you again. you gave us hope when we had so much trouble.

[Dan Dare]

I wonder why his organs failed perhaps cause he was a drinker?


I just told you. you can read, right?

[elniro]

if your gonna slate him because of the alcoholism, then why dont u slate millions of other people because of their alcoholism while your at it,

the point being, Best was the first true footballing icon, he is what ever footballer should be, he was famous, he might of been wealthy, but that didnt stop him from walking down the streets in manchester, and signing peoples autographs. he didnt need a big mansion or any of that, yet the genius he provided with his footballing talent made the whole world happy, he was to football what muhummed ali or john lewis was to boxing.

Respect man, well said.

This thread was re-opened to allow people to pay respect to George Best, so let's keep it that way

[scubahood]

He may of been a good footballer or whatever but those that are saying it wasn't alcohol are ignoring the fact he wasted a perfectly good liver

[Blackfox]

Its just turning into a slanging match again.