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Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:11 PM
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/989/989474/metroid-other-m-20090602111606283_640w.jpg

Goron_3
02-06-2009, 05:12 PM
OMG that looked amazing :D 2010 baby!

Looked brilliant, 3rd person with some 2d elements...yum!

Chris the great
02-06-2009, 05:13 PM
whats it on? some looked wii, some looked DS. that was pretty swell.

Portlett
02-06-2009, 05:16 PM
is it me or did it not mention retro studios at all?

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Also, this means Retro Studios are now free from Metroid!

Wonder when we'll see something from them? Suprised we didn't.

EchoDesiato
02-06-2009, 05:17 PM
"Any objections, lady?"

Adam Malkovich, bitch. We'll finally learn his story.

STOOPIDDITTIES
02-06-2009, 05:17 PM
I thought i'd be mad if there wasn't a new zelda, but this by far made up for it. 2010 couldn't come sooner!

D_prOdigy
02-06-2009, 05:17 PM
I came. We all came in Staff convo.

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:19 PM
To all those who don't like Metroid as it has been, now with Team Ninja working on it, surely there's a good chance you;ll like it now!

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:19 PM
I came. We all came in Staff convo.
Damn right.


We were saying that little girl might be a young Samus. Partners in Time: Metroird Remix.

Maase
02-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Can't fucking wait

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 05:20 PM
did anyone else see Ridley...again? i think i did. i need to see the trailer again...

and again...

and again

gaggle64
02-06-2009, 05:20 PM
Nope, this one was totally out of the blue. Actually looks like it could be stupendous.

chrizkerr2
02-06-2009, 05:21 PM
Best thing about the whole conference!

LazyBoy
02-06-2009, 05:22 PM
The only thing in the conference I liked, and I liked it alot.

dwarf gourami
02-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Samus talks. NOOOOOOOOO!!!! What have they done?

Looked pretty cool otherwise, compared to the other stuff.
Don't understand the mix of FPS third person and 2D. It was only a montage though there isn't a game there yet.

Jimbob
02-06-2009, 05:23 PM
I liked Metroid as it was, will be interested to see the take Team Ninja do with Metroid.

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:23 PM
did anyone else see Ridley...again? i think i did. i need to see the trailer again...

and again...

and again
I think so, one of the many moments where it spun out and had Samus jump on them and fire directly at them.

Maase
02-06-2009, 05:24 PM
I liked the "Trailer" apresentation this had.

Not very Nintendo like, but fucking great

S.C.G
02-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Aside from making Samus talk... everything else about this game screams WIN! there is huge potential here so Team Ninja had better not let Nintendo and us down.

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Samus talks. NOOOOOOOOO!!!! What have they done?
She's talked before.

EchoDesiato
02-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Samus talks. NOOOOOOOOO!!!! What have they done?



She talked in Fusion, and it was awesome.

EDIT: And in the Super Metroid prologue, and in Metroid: Zero Mission before the suitless part.

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:30 PM
^ WTF, it looked mind-blowing!

Fierce_LiNk
02-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Looking forward to this. I'm glad they're not just doing another Prime-style game. If they had done, chances are I would've skipped it.

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 05:31 PM
I definently have interest in this. Got an 'epic' feel from it.

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:31 PM
She spoke on the GBA?
here's hoping

i'm going to guess that it's for DS.

You are incorrect.

Ganepark32
02-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Great announcement. Totally unexpected and the partnership with Team Ninja.... well all I can say is if the Metroid games haven't been action packed enough, they sure as hell will be now. Looked great.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 05:32 PM
ut_8qkC2KUQ

oooh shit

i just noticed MOTHER BRAIN MOTHER FUKER

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 05:33 PM
I want to see some Kreig..err..that big fat green guy. Can't remember his name. Would be awesome.

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:35 PM
I want to see some Kreig..err..that big fat green guy. Can't remember his name. Would be awesome.

Kraid?


/

EchoDesiato
02-06-2009, 05:35 PM
I want to see some Kreig..err..that big fat green guy. Can't remember his name. Would be awesome.

Kraid. WTF is wrong with you, you work for a Nintendo site and you don't know one of Nintendo's most iconic bosses? For shame.:p

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:37 PM
So what do we reckon this game is...

*thinking outloud*

- Prequel
- 2D games brought into a 3D compilation
- New Sequel

- who's the woman at the end, sister? mother?

...Other + M = Mother?

S.C.G
02-06-2009, 05:37 PM
^ WTF, it looked mind-blowing!

I know... but I remain cautious still because there is always a chance that they could fuck it up... :/

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 05:38 PM
i just noticed MOTHER BRAIN MOTHER FUKER
WHICH BIT.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 05:39 PM
WHICH BIT.

1:21 !!!!!!!!!

CRAZY ASS BITCH LOOKS PISSED

Ike
02-06-2009, 05:39 PM
Is it me or does the woman at the end look like Samus?

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 05:41 PM
I would say its 2d from the first few minutes of the video then it seems to go into first person?...

wow i cant wait ti find out.. but yes a story!!

yours truly has officially came in his pants!

Dan Dare
02-06-2009, 05:41 PM
oh, that actually looks awesome. Only good thing I saw tbh.

david.dakota
02-06-2009, 05:43 PM
For my money, this and Galaxy simply saved the show. It looks amazing in my opinion.

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 05:43 PM
This blew my mind. The one big shock of the conference and more than enough for me. I had no idea it was Metroid till I saw the suit!

Ike
02-06-2009, 05:45 PM
This blew my mind. The one big shock of the conference and more than enough for me. I had no idea it was Metroid till I saw the suit!

Same, I thought it was Sin and Punishment 2.

Dan Dare
02-06-2009, 05:47 PM
Don't like this 'story' bull though. Play Super Metroid- that's how you do it! TN do terrible stories anyway so I can only see them mutilating Metroid's.

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Same, I thought it was Sin and Punishment 2.
yeah same! Was certainly an EPIC :o SAMUS moment!!

D_prOdigy
02-06-2009, 05:49 PM
Same, I thought it was Sin and Punishment 2.

Yeah we were all thinking "Right... S&P2 boo yah!!" when they were talking this up... then mind was blown.

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 05:49 PM
Don't like this 'story' bull though. Play Super Metroid- that's how you do it! TN do terrible stories anyway so I can only see them mutilating Metroid's.

we should also remember that nintendo are developing it too.. so I;m sure the story won't be fucked up so bad(although nintendo are bad at stories too)

Chris the great
02-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Same, I thought it was Sin and Punishment 2.

i went zelda-kid iccarus-sin and punishment 2-oh METROID!


well there we go, 2-3 good wii games and DS game that officaly made my seamen flow like champagne. nintendo done ok.

Mike
02-06-2009, 05:50 PM
I call 'alternate dimension' on this one.

Pit-Jr
02-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh yes i just noticed the speed booster in action. BOUGHT!

Cookyman
02-06-2009, 05:51 PM
Best game of conference in my opinion.

In other Metroid news:

From Retro Studios twitter account.

Ban Twitter from GAF. See how easy is to fool people? Morons. Oh, Matt Casamassina sucks. :)

Not Matts biggest fan then eh?

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 05:53 PM
^It obviously wasnt actually Retro!

Dan Dare
02-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Nintendo are probably worse. Gah, there's no hope!

Fierce_LiNk
02-06-2009, 05:53 PM
The only thing with the story is that I hope it just doesn't try to overdo it, or become too cheesy, or even "too gritty that it becomes laughable." Even then, it wouldn't be a game breaker for me, I think. Hmm.

Cookyman
02-06-2009, 05:53 PM
^It obviously wasnt actually Retro!

Heres the link http://twitter.com/RetroStudios

darkjak
02-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Me and some of the guys from the uni watched it together. Everyone said the Nintendo Press Conference sucked right up to the showing of Mario Galaxy 2, whereafter they just thought it was dissapointing. When they saw the Team Ninja logo go on, they all gasped for breath, and when they saw Samus they screamed like little girls!

This game seems awesome. I just hope it's not entirely a 2D game. A more combat and story oriented third person Metroid would kick buttocks!

Black Diamond
02-06-2009, 05:57 PM
The lady with the long blonde hair at the end of the trailer is the one in the Zero suit at the beginning, whilst Samus Aran is the one with the short blonde hair.

McMad
02-06-2009, 06:01 PM
The subtitle is lame but the gameplay looks crazy (if that was in-game footage).

The story could go either way though.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 06:01 PM
im gunna take a wild guess and say the final boss of this game will be like the final boss of SM, but instead of a Metroid saving you at the last minute, its Adam

predictable, but...i wouldnt put it past nintendo

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 06:06 PM
The lady with the long blonde hair at the end of the trailer is the one in the Zero suit at the beginning, whilst Samus Aran is the one with the short blonde hair.Interesting!... so was she the original Samus or something?

What's Samus doing on all these high tech stations anyways, I thought she was raised by the Chozo?

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Heres the link http://twitter.com/RetroStudios

Yes but that probably is not Retro's actual twitter. The message suggests it was made by people at GAF!

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 06:07 PM
chozo were high tech

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 06:12 PM
Yeah but not on orbiting space stations etc... were they?

And they gave Samus the Power Suit didn't they. That trailer makes it seem like a research project, so which Samus is the second test case, after the other blonde lady.

Captain Falcon
02-06-2009, 06:17 PM
Judging from the clip though, this game would appear to be only Metroid in name and story - I'm having difficulty believing the gameplay will remain having seen that.

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Well they were focusing on the action packed sections I guess! It looks like the game itself will be a combination of third person and perhaps some 2d exploration with also first person bits for some things.

I'm still expecting there to be a lot of exploration like the other titles, otherwise I would be disappointed.

Captain Falcon
02-06-2009, 06:24 PM
Well they were focusing on the action packed sections I guess! It looks like the game itself will be a combination of third person and perhaps some 2d exploration with also first person bits for some things.

I'm still expecting there to be a lot of exploration like the other titles, otherwise I would be disappointed.

I hope so.

Don't get me wrong, it looked amazing and I'll get it even if it gets panned, but it didn't scream the classic Metroid gameplay.

Zechs Merquise
02-06-2009, 06:26 PM
I hope so.

Don't get me wrong, it looked amazing and I'll get it even if it gets panned, but it didn't scream the classic Metroid gameplay.

No it didn't. But it did look AMAZING and was the sole highlight of the show.

Jonnas
02-06-2009, 06:30 PM
:o Holy... :o Just... :o And...but... :o :o

Initial shock aside, I think I can warm up to a spin-off. I mean, it may be more story-based, but the gameplay is not like a traditional Metroid's, either.

I'm sure the gameplay will be great. Ninja team are behind this, after all. That, and they're bringing several Metroid staples into this (not just aesthetically), so I have high hopes for an awesome Nintendo action game. That it's based on Metroid is an incredible, incredible bonus.

As for the story, surely it follows the time she worked for Adam. And I have a feeling there will be plenty of flashbacks.

Jamba
02-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Big interesting point is that Retro are basically a no-show...

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Having only played Prime 1 & 2 [but thougt I was up on the whole story], who is Adam? ...from Super Metroid?

Big interesting point is that Retro are basically a no-show...Yeah big suprise! Glad they've been allowed to move on from Metroid though. Wonder if they'll release something in the next few days.

D_prOdigy
02-06-2009, 06:39 PM
Big interesting point is that Retro are basically a no-show...

I think they're behind closed doors.

Chris the great
02-06-2009, 06:40 PM
Having only played Prime 1 & 2 [but thougt I was up on the whole story], who is Adam? ...from Super Metroid?

Yeah big suprise! Glad they've been allowed to move on from Metroid though. Wonder if they'll release something in the next few days.

hes a comanding officer, hes mentioned in fusion, were his mind is stored on a computer who rules. thats about it.

Jonnas
02-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Having only played Prime 1 & 2 [but thougt I was up on the whole story], who is Adam? ...from Super Metroid?

In Metroid Fusion, Samus mentions her former CO, Adam, whose catchphrase was "Any objections, lady?" (so I jumped at hearing him say that, not seeing her suit :heh:)

By the way, go play Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission. Definitely worth it.

kav82
02-06-2009, 06:46 PM
As far from the Metroid gameplay as it looked, man it stll looks unreal! This was an awesome trailer!

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 07:04 PM
Trailer:

50237

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 07:06 PM
I need more!

lol

Zechs Merquise
02-06-2009, 07:11 PM
Pretty sad that Retro didn't show anything :( I was hoping for a big announcement.

Before this conference I was hyped for:

- Retro's showing
- Factor 5's exclusive
- Bethesda's Wii game

And they all never materialised.

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 07:25 PM
the trailer for smash bros brawl was first released on show floor though wasnt it after the presentation... there is still hope :D

Jamba
02-06-2009, 07:28 PM
Pretty sad that Retro didn't show anything :( I was hoping for a big announcement.

Before this conference I was hyped for:

- Retro's showing
- Factor 5's exclusive
- Bethesda's Wii game

And they all never materialised.

What you mean the company that has gone bust?

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 07:32 PM
So who is the dude that says "Remember me?"

And Team Ninja should make the next Star Fox haha.

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 07:33 PM
I dont even know if Retro are actually working on anything other than Prime trilogy. I'm pretty sure that's part of why the creative director, head programmer and art director all left. Nintendo probably assigned them the project of porting the other titles to Wii and it probably seemed very boring to them.

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 07:35 PM
im not sure if retro had anything to do with porting the games to wii? did they?

I thought they had something in the works. and didnt factor 5 promise a wii game too..


I get the feeling tehre is still quite a bit to come... maybe that is wishful thinking but ..

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 07:38 PM
Yeah im pretty sure the porting is by Retro, I'm fairly sure it was confirmed.

Factor 5 did have a Wii game or 2 in development but well, they're gone now so they're probably canned!

Anyway there might still be more to come tomorrow yeah. Brawl wasn't announced on the day of the E3 2006 conference after all.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 07:49 PM
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/989/989474/metroid-other-m-20090602111603423.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/989/989474/metroid-other-m-20090602111600392.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/989/989474/metroid-other-m-20090602111626736.jpg

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 08:00 PM
So who is the dude that says "Remember me?"
People are thinking it's this Adam chap who 'trained' her or something. His personality gets downloaded into her ship's computer in Metroid Fusion.

Captain Falcon
02-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Yeah im pretty sure the porting is by Retro, I'm fairly sure it was confirmed.

Factor 5 did have a Wii game or 2 in development but well, they're gone now so they're probably canned!

Anyway there might still be more to come tomorrow yeah. Brawl wasn't announced on the day of the E3 2006 conference after all.

But lets face it, it shouldn't take them long to to Trilogy.

When the Wii controller was first shown behind closed doors, one of the demos was Metroid Prime 2 running with the controls. It clearly couldn't have took too much difficulty to retroactively fit the controls in MP1 given they had it working years ago in MP2.

At this point and given their experience, Trilogy should have been a weekend job for Retro.

They've got to be up to something.

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 08:01 PM
still confused as to what it is.. it seems 2d but yet you can switch to first person..


im not sure a thirs person metroid would ever work..And im not sure this is one either.

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Think it's a fusion of all types.

Cube
02-06-2009, 08:08 PM
I've checked the gameplay part of the trailer again. My thoughts:

- It seems to be a fighting game, similar to Ninja Gaiden. Some parts definitely look like the NG engine.
- 1st person seems to be an "only when standing still" thin, Similar to MGS:TTS.

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 08:08 PM
People are thinking it's this Adam chap who 'trained' her or something. His personality gets downloaded into her ship's computer in Metroid Fusion.

Nah, the dude that says "Remember me," is black. Adam is white. And is seen earlier in the trailer saying, "Any objections, lady?"

Captain Falcon
02-06-2009, 08:11 PM
still confused as to what it is.. it seems 2d but yet you can switch to first person..


im not sure a thirs person metroid would ever work..And im not sure this is one either.

Unless it used a dual analogue setup, 3rd person would only work if it had a lock on system that could keep up with the action and wasn't a pain in the backside...

Strange Cookie
02-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Hmmm, wasn't expecting this one, and not quite sure I like it, for now. A Ninja Gaiden style Metroid? That's throwing all subtleness out of the window. Was it really necessary to use the Metroid-franchise? Why no new IP for this game? Why does every game have to be a old Nintendo franchise? Well, all but Kid Icarus. ;)

Then again, that's what people first said when Metroid went 1st-Person Adventure;

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Nah, the dude that says "Remember me," is black. Adam is white. And is seen earlier in the trailer saying, "Any objections, lady?"
When!? TELL ME NOW.

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 08:21 PM
When!? TELL ME NOW.

I came as fast as I could!

http://n-europe.com/news.php?nid=13283

The man at 0:44 is Adam Malcovich.

However, the man at 1:18 is black and doesn't sound like Adam.

Goron_3
02-06-2009, 08:21 PM
When!? TELL ME NOW.

The very words of the trailer are spoken by him.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 08:21 PM
When!? TELL ME NOW.

watch it...?

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 08:25 PM
watch it...?
I'm downloading it as we speak.

darkjak
02-06-2009, 08:34 PM
im not sure a thirs person metroid would ever work..And im not sure this is one either.

This game is made by Team Ninja whom are behind Ninja Gaiden, and judging on the trailer, they've used the game engine and combat system from those games. It can also be compared a bit to Devil May cry. I have no doubts they could pull off a third person Metroid.

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 08:40 PM
They have the first person used in the trailer, but the third perosn used more. A third person Metroid does work, as shown by Super Metroid et al. Whether a 3D third person Metroid could work possibly. The morph ball in the Prime series hasn't been so bad.

However the way it looks in the trailer is the final blow, like in Tomb Raider Anniversay where you need timed button presses to administer the killing blow.

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Third person spin attacks ftw!

EEVILMURRAY
02-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Third person spin attacks ftw!
That too, I never got that far though.

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 09:25 PM
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6664/picture1zij.png

flashback of the killing of SM perhaps..?

Ganepark32
02-06-2009, 09:41 PM
^ just seeing that makes me think how awesome this is looking. Finally, another Mother Brain confrontation. So can't wait for this. :D Been watching the trailer for this and SMG2 all night. Just can't stop watching them.

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 09:42 PM
^ just seeing that makes me think how awesome this is looking. Finally, another Mother Brain confrontation. So can't wait for this. :D Been watching the trailer for this and SMG2 all night. Just can't stop watching them.

Tell me about it. So hard to resist.

Emasher
02-06-2009, 09:56 PM
The lead programmer at Retro didn't leave the company because he didn't want to work on Metroid any more, he died just after Prime 3 was released.

Gameplay: I think this might play like NIGHTS or Killer 7 a bit. Its on rails, but you can control when you go, and it sort of plays like a 2D game but in a 3D world. You can probably switch into 1st person to get more precise aiming.

Story: Samus looks younger in the Zero Suit there, so I'm guessing its a prequel, plus Adam being in it suggests that. I think all the blond haired females in it are samus, except for the scientist at the end, who might be a clone, because if you look at the video and listen to the Audio, you can clearly see Samus' face behind the visor and her lips don't move when "I am Samus Aran" is said. I'm not too sure about time travel, it doesn't seem very metroid, but is possible.

Also, for those saying it might be a DS game, it says its a Wii game at the end of the trailer.

Blue_Ninja0
02-06-2009, 09:57 PM
I'm completely surprised with this announcement, specially because it's from Team Ninja, and the style looks so different.
But damn it looks really good with plenty of action. And I love the fact that they will flesh out the story a bit more.

I can't really figure out the gameplay of this game. And I don't understand in which timeframe it fits. It's a prequel of all the games, right?

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 09:58 PM
Reggie Fil-Aime:

“You know, the Retro folks are hard at work. We and they wanted to do something different than Metroid, to show their chops in a different area. More to come on that. We don’t have anything to reveal about Retro at this E3 but they are hard at work.”

“So Galaxy, in the press conference we didn’t say, but it’s 2010. So not this year. But New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to be fantastic…”


awwww

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 09:58 PM
I think it's a prequel of sorts, she does look younger. When I first seen the trailer I thought it was how Samus 'came to be'. But then she got raised by the Chozo so it that ended up being wrong :heh:

Emasher
02-06-2009, 09:59 PM
I thought Retro said before E3 that they were going to be revealing a project other that Metroid Prime Trilogy at E3. Or did they just say soon?

Cube
02-06-2009, 10:00 PM
I can't really figure out the gameplay of this game. And I don't understand in which timeframe it fits. It's a prequel of all the games, right?

The gameplay looks similar to Ninja Gaiden. Fighting moves, as well as 3rd person shooting (although this part is more prominent in Metroid). The manual aiming of the bow is now 1st person manual aiming of the Power Beam.

That's what I gathered from the trailer.

Blue_Ninja0
02-06-2009, 10:02 PM
It's really weird, it seems it takes place before the events of Metroid 1 and some seem to be after.
Also, she seems to have the Varia suit already which means she already went to Zebes for the 1st visit and destruction of Mother Brain.

I'm damn hyped to know what this game is all about, I need more info.
It looks so un-Nintendo, but damn it looks cool.

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 10:04 PM
It might even be an alternate universe setting. The story doesn't quite add up, though then again, how many times as Ridley been beaten.

Dan Dare
02-06-2009, 10:04 PM
If you're right Cube I really can't see much Metroid gameplay in this. It just doesn't seem to fit any sense of exploration.

Emasher
02-06-2009, 10:04 PM
Hmm, hopefully its not another remake of Metroid 1 with extra bits of story on either end.

I think they'll have exploration, but I just wasn't shown in the trailer.

Blue_Ninja0
02-06-2009, 10:13 PM
It might even be an alternate universe setting. The story doesn't quite add up, though then again, how many times as Ridley been beaten.

Normal Ridley? 2 times. I'm not counting with Meta Ridley because we would easily see the armor in the trailer, and it looked like the purple old ridley to me. Which means Planet Zebes.
We also see the 2nd Mother Brain apearance from Super Metroid (the one with legs). That and the fact that by the time of Fusion Adam is already dead. This has got to be somewhere between Metroid 1 and Metroid 3.

The gameplay looks similar to Ninja Gaiden. Fighting moves, as well as 3rd person shooting (although this part is more prominent in Metroid). The manual aiming of the bow is now 1st person manual aiming of the Power Beam.

That's what I gathered from the trailer.

Looks like it's going to have a very different feeling. But as long as Nintendo don't let them slip up and make a mess of it, then a change of system is good. We don't need the exact same gameplay everytime a game in a series comes out. I welcome this.

Goron_3
02-06-2009, 10:15 PM
Interesting that Retro didn't show anything...

Maybe the rumours that they are no longer working on a Zelda aren't true?

ShadowV7
02-06-2009, 10:17 PM
Reggie said they're hard at work on something else just now and won't be able to show what at E3, so we need to wait a bit.

Blue_Ninja0
02-06-2009, 10:20 PM
Someone uploaded a high quality version of the trailer to Youtube:

Click the video to go to the Youtube page were it shows in higher quality.
oCPXPOeE36Y

Lens of Truth
02-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Stunning, absolutely stunning! Think about it.. it couldn't actually look any better :)

Glad to see they're being a bit more ambitious with the story side of things too.

Who was saying they thought this was DS!!!!!??

darkjak
02-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Perhaps it's some kinde of Super Paper Mario-ish thing where you swap between 2D and 3d?

DazzeL
02-06-2009, 10:44 PM
Very, very pleased with this tbh. I was starting to get that sinking feeling at the point where Iwata focused on Wii Vitality Sensor and then BAM - this and SMG2. Fantastic.

Chris the great
02-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Stunning, absolutely stunning! Think about it.. it couldn't actually look any better :)

Glad to see they're being a bit more ambitious with the story side of things too.

Who was saying they thought this was DS!!!!!??

i did, though to be fair, some bits look ropey as hell, the thing that jumps out of the lava appears to have approximately 5 pollygons. i mean, some looks great, but i guessed it may be cinema, like in final fatasy III on the DS

Jonnas
02-06-2009, 10:53 PM
My theories:

-Gameplay-wise, it will mix several action styles. Wether it's 2D, 3rd person 3D or 1st person, the style will automatically change according with your stage/level or situation (I mean, it must be hard creating stages that can be fun using all the styles)
Either way, the 3D battles will kick ass, considering the team behind this

-Story-wise, it will be a sequel, but feature the memorable battles seen in the classic games (Mother Brain, Ridley, etc.). Either by simulation battles, flashbacks (in case the storyline spans more than one game) or even fights where those adversaries don't actually die, story-wise


http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/989/989474/metroid-other-m-20090602111600392.jpg


Is that Crocomire?

James McGeachie
02-06-2009, 10:57 PM
I'm expecting the story to take place over a bunch of different time periods. The beginning stuff seems to be younger Samus pre-Metroid 1, but there's also Ridley fights (have to be between 1 and SM) and then there's the flashbacks to the MB fight from SM.

Grazza
02-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Flipping awesome! It looks so forward-thinking and advanced. Didn't think they'd do anything like this until Wii 2.

To all those who don't like Metroid as it has been, now with Team Ninja working on it, surely there's a good chance you;ll like it now!

So true! I love Metroid, but am not too fond of Prime. I'm thrilled to see the series become more Japanese again.

She talked in Fusion, and it was awesome.

EDIT: And in the Super Metroid prologue, and in Metroid: Zero Mission before the suitless part.

And they're the three best!

By the way, go play Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission. Definitely worth it.

Oh yes!

Nintendo weren't kidding when they said they had "several" games for the core gamer.

Dante
02-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Metroid Manga readers have spotted scenes from Metroid Zero Mission manga in Other M.

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 11:26 PM
After just hitting play/pause a bunch of times to see things "frame-by-frame" this is what I observed:

At 0:55 there is a face very briefly, which to me looks like a young Samus.

At 1:05 the purple wiggly thing is surrounded by "space marines" as Samus takes it out.

At 1:14 there appears to be another "cloaked" lizard in the room.

At 1:18 Ridley looks non-mechanical.

At 1:25 the "Remember Me" guy has another member of his force behind him.

At 1:26 Samus is definitely fighting a space pirate.

1:28 sure as hell looks like Mother Brain. Is it killing the Metroid that saved Samus in Super Metroid?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/stinelli/motherbrain.jpg

At 1:41, who's body is that? Adam's?

At 1:48 its hard to tell if Samus is saying, "I am Samus Aran."

or else you will DIE
02-06-2009, 11:32 PM
my word that mother brain part IS SO FUCKING AWESOME

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 11:32 PM
Is that Crocomire?

Yeah, the eyes, mouth, and lava sure make it seem to be Crocomire.

Dante
02-06-2009, 11:35 PM
After just hitting play/pause a bunch of times to see things "frame-by-frame" this is what I observed:

At 0:55 there is a face very briefly, which to me looks like a young Samus.

At 1:05 the purple wiggly thing is surrounded by "space marines" as Samus takes it out.

At 1:14 there appears to be another "cloaked" lizard in the room.

At 1:18 Ridley looks non-mechanical.

At 1:25 the "Remember Me" guy has another member of his force behind him.

At 1:26 Samus is definitely fighting a space pirate.

1:28 sure as hell looks like Mother Brain. Is it killing the Metroid that saved Samus in Super Metroid?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/stinelli/motherbrain.jpg

At 1:41, who's body is that? Adam's?

At 1:48 its hard to tell if Samus is saying, "I am Samus Aran."

I heard "I am sorry Samus Aran"

FalcoLombardi
02-06-2009, 11:38 PM
I heard "I am sorry Samus Aran"

Just went back and re-watched it. I hear, "I'm Samus Aran."

Retro_Link
02-06-2009, 11:45 PM
Just went back and re-watched it. I hear, "I'm Samus Aran."That's what I heard.

mcj metroid
02-06-2009, 11:48 PM
hmm wonder if she will talk in this one ..

I really think she should.. You can;t keep the silence forver... but she should still be the strong silent type.. and they really have to get her voice right..

Mokong X-C
03-06-2009, 12:02 AM
Now this was a surprise indeed, love the look of it, hope it plays just as well. I wonder how the different views will be spread, 50/50 or will 3rd person feature more than 1st or vice versa?
One thing I did wonder about though is how the 3rd person will control, it looked awesome but some of it seemed so smooth in how it flowed I kinda got a QTE vibe?

So if Team Ninja are working on Metroid now... what the hell are Retro doing?

Also... anyone else think we got a good chance of a another trilogy?

Emasher
03-06-2009, 12:16 AM
I still think the movement is going to be more like NIGHTS. There isn't really a scene where you see what looks like a full 3D plane. One dimension always looks guided.

ShadowV7
03-06-2009, 12:18 AM
Some tidbits from IGN interview with Reggie:

IGN: What can you tell us about Metroid Other M other than what we saw in the trailer?

Reggie: What I can tell you is that it's going to be fabulous. I've seen it working. I personally didn't have a controller in my hands, but it looks great. And it really is going to do a fabulous job giving you more backstory on Samus, taking you more into the mythology of what Metroid is all about. It's going to be great.

IGN: So this is going all the way back to her teens?

Reggie: We're not going to tell you exactly where it fits in the Metroid mythology. We're going to share that a little bit later. But it definitely fills in some of the gaps.

Dante
03-06-2009, 12:24 AM
oCPXPOeE36Y

Some tidbits from IGN interview with Reggie:

So:

It tells the Metroid Zero Mission manga.
It retells Zero Mission and Super Metroid.
Leaves out Prime storyline.
It tells what happened next.
It retells Fusion.


http://i41.tinypic.com/2eeliye.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/wrjq0x.jpg

darksnowman
03-06-2009, 12:51 AM
Right. I'm onboard for this!

Looks like Metroid is on track for its second great game... Fusion being the one and only current one. :heh: At first I was curious with the trailer to see what it was gonna be... then thought I just saw Samus... then all the action... and a story too? Well, hell yes, sign me up.

ShadowV7
03-06-2009, 12:52 AM
Oh ho ho. If the snowman is interested in this, surely the game must be good?

Shino
03-06-2009, 01:00 AM
Surely the prime series proved it would be good either way.

mcj metroid
03-06-2009, 01:05 AM
Surely the prime series proved it would be good either way.

you'd think that but snowman has an..... interesting taste in games shall we say :D

Dante
03-06-2009, 04:49 AM
So who is the dude that says "Remember me?"

And Team Ninja should make the next Star Fox haha.

Commander Mauk (http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Mok)



Is that Crocomire?

Yup!

Samus history accoding to Nintendo's Metriod manga and the Metroid series.

Much of Samus's life and history is a mystery. She was living with her parents, Rodney Aran and Virginia Aran, on the Earth colony K-2L at the age of three; they died, however, in a Space Pirate attack on the colony led by Ridley, while Samus was three years old. She was the sole human survivor of the raid. Eventually, a group of Chozo found her alone (except for her pet Pyonchi) and stranded on the destroyed colony. Old Bird decided to take Samus and her Pyonchi. They brought her to their planet, Zebes, and raised her with Chozo influence. She was infused with Chozo blood (from Grey Voice, though she did not learn this aspect for many years), and later given the powerful Power Suit, built entirely out of Chozo technology. She proceeded to leave the planet, join (and quit) the Federation Police, and eventually became a universally renowned Bounty Hunter.

After becoming the most famed and capable of all Bounty Hunters, succeeding in missions everyone considered impossible, Samus was summoned by the Galactic Federation and given the orders to infiltrate Zebes, the planet she grew up on.

Apparently, Space Pirates had overrun the world.

She had two objectives:
Eliminate the threat of the Metroids, a newly discovered species which the Space Pirates were using for evil purposes, and
Destroy Mother Brain — the "mechanical life form" or "life vein" and central computer of Zebes' ecosystem, which had become the leader of the Space Pirates. According to the manga, Mother Brain once served the Chozo but betrayed them to serve the Pirates as part of its own plans.


Commander Adam Malkovich (previously General Adam Malkovich) (http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_Malkovich)

Was the celebrated military genius that served as the only Commanding Officer to Samus Aran during her time in the Galactic Federation. The only information available about Adam is from Samus’s own words and depictions of him. He is described as being gruff, harsh, a perfect military mind, relentless in criticism, but not a machine obsessed with duty. The way he is described suggests that Samus had begrudging respect and admiration for him that has since grown. We first learn of Adam from Samus's soliloquies in Metroid Fusion.

Malkovich has a small role in a few chapters of Metroid (manga), as a commanding officer who arrives after Samus' first mission in the Galactic Federation Police. He allows Samus to investigate Zebes for Chozo survivors before the Federation attacks. He also pilots the Federation Army Special Ops Battleship Vixin IV.

Malkovich would call Samus “lady” during missions and he managed to make it sound dignified where it would seem sarcastic from anybody else. When giving her orders he would end with “Any objections, lady?” The question was rhetorical as he knew she wouldn’t disagree. It was just a phrase to denote their trust.

It is known that Adam sacrificed his own life to save Samus. This may be related to the last time he was seen alive, stalling Ridley to buy Samus more time after realizing that he must be trying to get to Zebes because there is trouble there. Adam presses his crew, who cheers when Ridley's vessel turns away, to fight a seemingly unbeatable foe when the ship was nearing damage capacity.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1015/samussalute.gif
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/441/glare.gif
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5623/rememberme.gif
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7403/ridleyfight.gif
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4845/ridleyfight2.gif
http://i40.tinypic.com/etfvdf.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2rdydn9.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5786/motherbrain.gif
http://i42.tinypic.com/15q7k7p.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6485/timetogo.gif

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i15e1.png
Hmm.

Jonnas
03-06-2009, 06:59 AM
Commander Mauk (http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Mok)


That guy isn't black :blank:

david.dakota
03-06-2009, 07:19 AM
black? White?

Just colour me happy.

Cube
03-06-2009, 08:51 AM
Those gifs convince me even more that it's a lot like Ninja Gaiden. Even those (tad annoying) long "Boss pwning you and taking half your health while you can do nothing but sit there" bits are in it.

Swords are replaced by fighting, shruikens have been replaced by the Power Beam, manual 3rs person bow aiming has been replaced by manual 1st person Power Beam aiming, and the block and dodge move looks similar to that dodge move seen above.

Jamba
03-06-2009, 09:26 AM
So stupidly excited about this game that I actually don't really have anything else to say...

:santa: *awaits metaphorical Christmas* :santa:

S.C.G
03-06-2009, 10:10 AM
Just went back and re-watched it. I hear, "I'm Samus Aran."

That's what I heard.

That's what she said. :heh:

Right. I'm onboard for this!

Looks like Metroid is on track for its second great game... Fusion being the one and only current one. :heh: At first I was curious with the trailer to see what it was gonna be... then thought I just saw Samus... then all the action... and a story too? Well, hell yes, sign me up.

Also... woo! awesome to here that you're on-board for this latest Metroid game Steven :) I still maintain that the Prime series was awesome but this... this has potential to be something else entirely, something beyond any scale that anyone could have previously imagined, I just so hope that Team Ninja / Nintendo deliver with this one.

Deathborn
03-06-2009, 10:18 AM
:o:o:o
:yay::yay::yay:
I came buckets when I saw the trailer. Didn't expect a new Metroid game at all.

Give me a strong Super Metroid vibe.
And that trailer is full of amazing fan-service! The obvious Ridley fight, old-school space pirates, ki hunters (green insect-like ennemies from Super Metroid), Adam Malkovich, Mother Brain, the speed boost (one of my favourite upgrades in 3D! :yay:),... and I'm wondering if the creature at 1:03 is a zeta-metroid (http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/File:Zeta_Metroid_art.JPG) (SR-388 surface??).

With the storyline elements we have, my guess is that it's a prequel+remake of older Metroid games (Metroid, Super Metroid and maybe Metroid 2), maybe with a time travel twist added. The older games have a blurry storyline which deserves to be officially clarified (there's the manga which is canon according to various sources and considering the ending pictures of Zero Mission but I'm a little reluctant to consider it like that).

Gameplay-wise, I still can't figure out how it plays (maybe I should wtach some Ninja Gaiden videos) but the hand-to-hand fighting is amazing. I really love how those moves really make Samus look like a powerhouse warrior, which I find she was lacking considering how they portrayed bounty hunters since the first game and compared to the others bounty hunters shown in Corruption. Before that (and apart from cutscenes in Prime games), she just seems to be some soldier with powerful weapons, mainly due to the gameplay style and his limitations. In this trailer, she looks a lot more skilled and threatening.
Looks like a good evolution to me. I just hope there's still exploration involved.


That guy isn't black :blank:

I think the black guy is the dead bounty hunter/GF soldier we can see somewhere in Super Metroid (at the beginning of Tourian I think. Not sure).

Chris the great
03-06-2009, 11:18 AM
i just hope this keeps the fredom of exploration of metroid. ive got a bad feeling it may just be a serise of levels.

James McGeachie
03-06-2009, 11:41 AM
I think the black guy is the dead bounty hunter/GF soldier we can see somewhere in Super Metroid (at the beginning of Tourian I think. Not sure).

It was just before Kraid's boss room in Brinstar and I seriously doubt they're going to ever link anyone to that corpse!

People used to have theories about it being Adam and crap.

Haver
03-06-2009, 11:49 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg

So so true.

gaggle64
03-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Too true. They got the rainbows right and everything.

/ nando /
03-06-2009, 12:35 PM
..hmm.. that was quite like me, except for some reason I didn't get excited watching Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Metroid: Other M :eek:

I think I didn't feel that interested because the conference was starting to annoy me with some of the DS games and then the Wii Vitality Sensor.. it seemed like Nintendo had got it wrong again. The demonstration of New Super Mario Bros Wii was pretty bad at the start too and Wii Fit Plus wasn't a surprise..

However, when I look back on it and have seen more videos and pictures of what was shown, I'm more than satisfied :smile:

New Super Mario Bros Wii now looks fantastic (I think they just chose the wrong level to show at E3..)and it is great to see the Koopa Kids back :yay:

Wii Fit Plus appears to have some nice new balance games from the pictures available and should be worth picking up since I already have the original Wii Fit :smile:

Wii Sports Resort looked pretty cool too and I liked seeing the canoe game.. it looked like it would be fun :heh: ..my one concern with the game is that the Jet Ski game doesn't appear to be included any more :hmm: I can only hope that it has been converted into a new Wave Race :yay:

Super Mario Galaxy 2 should be amazing (like the first) and it was nice to see Yoshi return to the action, though I feel Yoshi is likely to work better in New Super Mario Bros Wii, probably because he was much better in Super Mario World than Super Mario Sunshine :heh:

Metroid: Other M looks better the more I see it.. really great to see them doing something different with the series :smile: With Team Ninja working on it, the action is likely to be frantic.. I can't wait :eek:

Golden Sun DS was a pleasant surprise too.. I have the GBA game (but haven't really played it yet..) but I actually liked what I saw of the DS game so I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it : peace:

Add all this to Red Steel 2, Sin & Punishment 2, No More Heroes 2 (..wow.. these are all sequels :eek:), Silent Hill, Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles and more, there is plenty to look forward to in the coming year :yay:

ShadowV7
03-06-2009, 12:41 PM
There is a lot i'm wanting now, it would seem each year, there are more and more games I want to buy. I'm glad 3rd party support is coming in now, hopefully the sales for games will star kicking up.

Haver
03-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Could anyone write a little list of non-'new Nintendo' games they have lined up for me to check out. So no Wii Fit or sports stuff. And not remakes or sequels (sequels in the sense of adding a 2 and some new levels/chars).

Tellyn
03-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Could anyone write a little list of non-'new Nintendo' games they have lined up for me to check out. So no Wii Fit or sports stuff. And not remakes or sequels (sequels in the sense of adding a 2 and some new levels/chars).

- Metroid: Other M
- Line Attack Heroes
- Monado: Beginning of the World
- Super Mario Galaxy 2
- Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again
- Span Smasher
- Sin & Punishment 2
- Golden Sun DS
- You, Me and the Cubes
- Picross 3D

And I'm sure I'm missing some.

Shino
03-06-2009, 03:40 PM
I really need to watch some Ninja Gaiden gameplay to understand this.

navarre
03-06-2009, 03:50 PM
OK, the trailer showed the game mostly in a 3rd person perspective, and there was a clip of a first person mission reminscent of Prime.

Looks so good. Nintendo are completely spoiling us, and this is the sort of game that I deserve from my loyalties to Nintendo over the years. Sure, the Prime trilogy was great, but this looks set to completely take the Metroid genre forward.

Brilliant.

FalcoLombardi
03-06-2009, 04:05 PM
It was just before Kraid's boss room in Brinstar and I seriously doubt they're going to ever link anyone to that corpse!

People used to have theories about it being Adam and crap.

I always wondered who that was. It'd be pretty cool if they actually did tell us in this game though.

Also about the name:

The title of Metroid: Other M is abbreviated to "MOM", and the subtitle is an anagram for "Mother", strengthening this game's connection to Mother Brain (who appears in the trailer) as well as other possible maternal themes from the series history.

It also may also refer to an infamous line from the end of Metroid: "THE GALAXY MAY BE INVADED BY THE OTHER METROID. PRAY FOR A TRUE PEACE IN SPACE."

darksnowman
03-06-2009, 04:11 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg

So so true.

Haha, quality.

Hero-of-Time
03-06-2009, 04:16 PM
Haha, quality.

Thats so what happened in our MSN convo, at least with me anyway :)

ShadowV7
03-06-2009, 04:18 PM
The staff convo was funny with this, some of couldn't even type properly. Needless to say, trousers got changed.

D_prOdigy
03-06-2009, 04:21 PM
The staff convo was funny with this, some of couldn't even type properly. Needless to say, trousers got changed.

Can we post the transaction here?

darksnowman
03-06-2009, 04:25 PM
Thats so what happened in our MSN convo, at least with me anyway :)

Yeah, lol, that one we were in started with lots of hope which gradually dwindled out! Mario Galaxy 2 lifted spirits but the new Metroid was definitely needed to make sure it finished on a high... there was definitely a rainbow aura coming from that convo, haha.

Hero-of-Time
03-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Yeah, lol, that one we were in started with lots of hope which gradually dwindled out! Mario Galaxy 2 lifted spirits but the new Metroid was definitely needed to make sure it finished on a high... there was definitely a rainbow aura coming from that convo, haha.

I think there was only you and me who went nuts when Golden Sun 3 was shown.

david.dakota
03-06-2009, 04:43 PM
How do people think this will play? I've not played anything from Team Ninja, so couldn've hazard a guess from their previous work.

It does look 2D shooter (like pre-Prime) in a 3D world?

I think there was only you and me who went nuts when Golden Sun 3 was shown.

I think you can count me in on that. I literally tried to eat my own fist.

Hero-of-Time
03-06-2009, 04:58 PM
Here's a pop video that GoNintendo have posted.

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Coolness Bears
03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg

So so true.

Haha, brilliant. The've captured the moment so perfectly! :D

I think this will sit well with me more than the 3 prime games some how. :) I loved all 3 but have not completed any of them. :p

Shino
03-06-2009, 05:13 PM
I've just watched some Ninja Gaiden footage, and it completely explains the footage they showed. Its really fast paced and frantic, just surprised they're doing this with Metroid instead of Zelda.

Ganepark32
03-06-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm sure others have wondered about this question (or if they haven't then it would have been one to ponder). Anyway, over at Kotaku, Totilo had an interview with the director of Metroid, Sakamoto, and a producer from Team Ninja and he decided to ask whether this was the end result of Metroid Dread and he got an interesting answer.

"He's very familiar with that [game,]" Sakamoto's translator said after posing our question to him. "No, this is different."

We pressed for details on what Dread is. Sakamoto's response: "The day may come when Dread hits the stores, but this one is something that's completely different. This is other M."

So it may seem that Dread is real after all. Who knows but I do think that perhaps Sakamoto has put his foot in it by saying that.

darksnowman
03-06-2009, 06:46 PM
I think there was only you and me who went nuts when Golden Sun 3 was shown.

You're right. I was pretty disappointed that everyone didn't erupt with joy at that point! Kingdom Hearts warmed us up then Golden Sun sent us into hysterics. :grin:

D_prOdigy
03-06-2009, 06:52 PM
I think there was only you and me who went nuts when Golden Sun 3 was shown.

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evad_lhorg
03-06-2009, 07:42 PM
just looks like ninja gaiden/DMC. Those games are great but I dont really want a clone.

ShadowV7
03-06-2009, 08:04 PM
Well luckily it isn't all Team Ninja then. Remember Nintendo is working on it aswell so hopefully it'll be that bit more awesome.

Hero-of-Time
03-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Here's a great interview from 1up.

*hype level raises*

What's the game about? Set between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion, this action-tinted adventure for Wii promises to delve further into Samus's story and her relationship with the late commander for whom she named Fusion's AI, Adam Malkovich.

What's new for E3? Yesterday's press conference was the first reveal of Other M, and all we've seen so far is a trailer. But what a trailer: A fan-oriented mystery that slowly unfolds to reveal itself as a Metroid game, then explodes into a flurry of colorful action.

What's our take? You got your Ninja Gaiden in my Metroid! (You got your Metroid in my Ninja Gaiden.) As flashy and exciting as the trailer for Other M looks, many Metroid fans were left feeling ambivalent about the prospect of Team Ninja -- known for its violent, high-octane action games -- creating a new entry in the iconic Metroid series. The trailer shows lots of Ninja Gaiden influence, with anime-style cut-scenes, large 3D arenas for boss battles, and surprisingly brutal deathblows that show Samus grabbing an enemy's head, jamming her arm cannon into its face, and firing away. Then again, a team of Texans managed to turn the series into a first-person shooter and make it work, so who's to say this won't as well?

Shortly after the game's debut, I had the opportunity to speak with Other M's creators, Metroid co-creator Yoshio Sakamoto and Team Ninja head Yusuke Hayashi about their goals with this latest chapter in bounty hunter Samus Aran's story. In 30 minutes' time, my feelings on Other M shifted from ambivalent to ardent. Though much remains to be seen of Other M, it's clear that Sakamoto and Hayashi are working to ensure this adventure lives up to their fans' expectations.



1UP: If somebody had told me twenty years ago that Metroid and Ninja Gaiden would be teaming up, I don't think I would have believed it. How did you guys decide to get together to create Metroid: Other M?

Yoshio Sakamoto: My team is actually part of the handheld Metroid side...separate from Metroid Prime. So, when the Wii came out, it was my desire to create a Metroid game for this new console. But our roots were in the handheld -- more of the 2D realm. When we were thinking of different concepts and ideas that we could make into reality with this new Metroid, we realized that we didn't actually have the know-how to produce something that was 3D.

It wasn't that I didn't think my team was up to the challenge, I just wanted to find the perfect partner to help make that a reality. So after consulting with Nintendo, I decided to approach Tecmo and Team Ninja with that proposal. I'm very grateful that Team Ninja accepted. I'll let Mr. Hayashi continue with the story.

Yusuke Hayashi: Team Ninja has always tried to push the limits of the 3D action genre -- tried to make the ultimate experience for the player. When Mr. Sakamoto approached Team Ninja and me, we saw it as a new challenge that we'd like to take on. We felt it was a natural progression and definitely a challenge, but something we'd like to take on and something that would be beneficial for everyone. That's why I decided to accept the proposal.

Also, on the Team Ninja side, there are a lot of Metroid fans!

1UP:When I think of the two series, they seem very different. Metroid is very slow, methodical, exploratory, while Ninja Gaiden is very fast, violent, and action-oriented. How do you reconcile those two and create something that takes advantage of your strengths, but still feels like a Metroid game?

YH: We want to try and take the best of both. As you progress through the game, there will be more action-oriented, faster-paced sequences. But then you'll have your careful, exploratory parts of the story as well. We actually used it to our advantage to try and marry the two concepts together.

YS: When I brought the proposal to Team Ninja, I had no idea what their response would be. As we progressed through development, of course there were differences of opinion, but we were able to work through those and ultimately create something that's better than either of us could have expected. It's been a really collaborative, creative process, and I feel that the result is something that's very positive.

1UP: What most people love about Metroid is that it offers a huge, open world. It's non-linear, there's so much to explore, and you can move about at your own pace. Is that something you're going to be retaining for this game, or is it going to be more of a linear, level by level progression?

YS: If you think about this one as being maybe similar to Metroid Fusion, then I think you'll have an idea of how the story will play out. It's still linear in the sense that there's a progression, but there are side areas that players can go into. It will retain that true, Metroid feel.

1UP: Team Ninja is known for their cinematics and storytelling. Is that something that will factor in heavily?

YS: As I mentioned before, it's kind of similar to Fusion in that there's an overarching story that the player will experience as they progress through the game. It is a game, but within it is a larger story that will unfold as the player progresses.

1UP: So is this being positioned as a spinoff game? Or is it really the next game in the series -- Metroid 5?

YS: It's part of the flow, storywise, between Super Metroid and Fusion.

1UP: When I saw the trailer this morning, I knew it was Metroid as soon as I heard, "Any objections, Lady?" which I recognized from Fusion. Will Other M delve into Fusion's backstory and Samus's relationship with Adam?

YS: Yes, it will reveal a little of Samus' backstory and also what happened between Super Metroid and Fusion. In Fusion, Adam was no longer there, so it'll explain what happened.

1UP: There was another character who seemed to be a...bounty hunter, maybe? Can you talk about his role?

YS: He's a Galactic Federation Soldier. He's one of Adam's soldiers.

1UP: The Metroid series chronology has become pretty long and complicated with the Prime games and the games you've created directly. Are you taking into account all the titles that have come before, or are you sticking to the story that you, as R&D1, have developed?

YS: Actually, the Prime games are just one incident within the greater story that I've worked on personally. It's not as if I was really thinking about how the Prime games fit into the sequence because, they were just one incident. But Other M will be more part of the R&D1 produced games. Maybe in "grand scheme" it would be around...3.5.

1UP: Ah okay, Super Metroid And A Half. What is the "Other M" in the subtitle?

YS: Other M has several meanings. As the story unfolds, those meanings should gradually reveal themselves.

1UP: I noticed that at the end of the trailer there appeared to be another Samus. What role does she play?

YS: She's not actually a second Samus, but she's a very, very important character within the game.

1UP: Ninja Gaiden has a reputation for being extremely difficult, and while Metroid has been difficult, it doesn't pride itself on breaking players. Do you intend it to create a challenging Metroid, or will you go easy on us?

YH: Our goal isn't to make something that will break players. It's for Metroid fans and new players alike, so we're not taking the same approach as with Ninja Gaiden.

1UP: Mr. Sakamoto, you've mentioned a few times that your expertise and experience lie with handhelds. So, why is this a Wii game? Will we see a more traditional Metroid on DS or a future handheld system at some point?

YS: Each platform has different things to offer to the player. And because this game is being developed for the Wii, it offers things that cannot be done on the DS. I can't say whether there will or won't be a portable title, but, if we were to create something for a handheld system, it would definitely include features that couldn't be done in Other M, and vice versa.

1UP: Thank you very much for your time.

(Everyone moves to leave, but Sakamoto signals for us all to sit again.)

YS: We have three companies collaborating on this game; a team we've dubbed Project M. With Nintendo, Team Ninja, and another company that's focusing on the cinematics working together, we've broken down the walls that define each company and joined forces to form a separate entity. It's unlike anything that's ever been done at Nintendo; It's more than just a collaborative effort -- it's one group working toward a common goal.

kav82
03-06-2009, 09:14 PM
I've just read that interview and headed straight here!

Oh hell yes! This is awesome! So, so awesome! My most anticipated game easily! I cannot wait!!!

Tellyn
03-06-2009, 09:17 PM
This does sound fantastic. I'm going to try to get back into Fusion soon, and I'll definitely be picking up the Prime Trilogy in September. I'm hoping the Wii controls make me like the games a bit more!

Mike
03-06-2009, 09:23 PM
That interview has definitely made me feel more positive about this game. Though I'm a big Metroid fan, I'm still a bit worried that it's going in a different direction, but it's good to hear how passionately they feel about still making it feel like a Metroid game. As long as the exploration really is there, I'll be very happy.

Ike
03-06-2009, 09:25 PM
This does sound fantastic. I'm going to try to get back into Fusion soon, and I'll definitely be picking up the Prime Trilogy in September. I'm hoping the Wii controls make me like the games a bit more!

Yeah, I feel like playing Fusion now as well.


1UP: I noticed that at the end of the trailer there appeared to be another Samus. What role does she play?

YS: She's not actually a second Samus, but she's a very, very important character within the game.

Well, that answered my question.

Emasher
03-06-2009, 09:29 PM
I'm not sure I feel like playing fusion, but I might play Super Metroid.

I got stuck on that spider boss that drains half your health if he grabs a hold of you in Fusion, and there's no save spot anywhere near where you fight him either.

I've been put off from playing it since then.

McMad
03-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Yeah I got bored of Fusion too. Don't think I'll ever get round to completing it. I didn't like the bright colour palette which contrasted with the style of Super Metroid and I hated all the monologues.

I hope the narrative of Other M won't be another game-breaker for me.

Jonnas
03-06-2009, 10:05 PM
I loved that interview. Flashbacks is what'll happen, then. Awesome way to bring the classic Metroid battles into an action game.

I would love it if they recreated the battle with Dark Samus in the elevator, though it's unlikely. Ridley is all I need, anyway :)

Grazza
03-06-2009, 10:19 PM
I got stuck on that spider boss that drains half your health if he grabs a hold of you in Fusion, and there's no save spot anywhere near where you fight him either.

I've been put off from playing it since then.

It's actually quite easy when you know the knack. Just roll into a morph ball and head to the extreme side of the screen. Most of the time he won't be able to grab you. Then, when he backs off, stand underneath him and fire loads of missiles upwards.

Mind you, there is a gauntlet of difficult bosses after that, so I recommend finding as many health and missile upgrades as you can, as it's difficult (or perhaps impossible) to get out of that bit after the spider.

This is the thing about Metroid - I embrace the challenge of the handheld 2D games (completed Zero Mission on Hard - woohoo!), but it's just something about Metroid Prime's controls and perspective that I don't like. I'm thrilled that Other M is taking it back to the Japanese style.

Sounds like it really is Metroid brought to 3D again.

Goron_3
03-06-2009, 10:31 PM
I love the Prime games, especially Prime 3, but i have to admit, as much as I appreciate them as games (i mean i COMPLETELY understand why people adore them so much) I don't particularly find the first 2 that interesting, so i'm VERY happy with the way they've taken this. It'll definately get more people into the franchise too, it's looking badass.

Daft
03-06-2009, 10:35 PM
I love the Prime games, especially Prime 3, but i have to admit, as much as I appreciate them as games (i mean i COMPLETELY understand why people adore them so much) I don't particularly find the first 2 that interesting, so i'm VERY happy with the way they've taken this. It'll definately get more people into the franchise too, it's looking badass.

Absolutely with you.

I'm SO excited about this.

Cube
03-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Ooh, it's in between Super and Fusion. I wonder if we'll find out how Ridely ended up in a freezer (It's odd how he survives all these games, and in the end gets killed by a parasite).

mcj metroid
03-06-2009, 10:39 PM
I love the Prime games, especially Prime 3, but i have to admit, as much as I appreciate them as games (i mean i COMPLETELY understand why people adore them so much) I don't particularly find the first 2 that interesting, so i'm VERY happy with the way they've taken this. It'll definately get more people into the franchise too, it's looking badass.

that;s because the 3rd one is easier and has more cutscenes... :D

Metroid prime 1 is the ebst cloesly followed by the other 2..

Metroid prime is essentially a 3d remake of super metroid.. its very similiar in a lot of ways..

Emasher
03-06-2009, 10:55 PM
@Fusion Boss

I've tried that strategy, but it falls apart as soon as he shoots the fireballs into the corners. Although, you've convinced me to try it again.

Shino
03-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Ooh, it's in between Super and Fusion. I wonder if we'll find out how Ridely ended up in a freezer (It's odd how he survives all these games, and in the end gets killed by a parasite).

It was him at the end of Fusion.

Dante
03-06-2009, 11:16 PM
This game is made by Nintendo (R&D1 aka SPD1) + Tecmo (Team Ninja) + Mysterious Cinematic Company

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/134698-speculation.jpg

FalcoLombardi
03-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Metroid prime is essentially a 3d remake of super metroid.. its very similiar in a lot of ways..

In what ways?

James McGeachie
03-06-2009, 11:31 PM
^It's similar in that it uses some similar weapons and a similar set up I guess (start on a space station, end up on a planet below) and that you have to earn back a lot of items and fight Ridley.

Other than that though Prime is its own game in every right! The locations aren't very similar other than Magmoor's similarity to Norfair (and even that is only the music really!)

The story is entirely different in presentation and feel though and there are gameplay elements in Prime not in Super and vice versa.

mcj metroid
03-06-2009, 11:32 PM
In what ways?


well a lot of the powerups are similar... the xray vision for one.. the hyper beam.. other thing missing from prime is the screw attack...

and has generic levels like super metroid like a fire level, ice level and borrows a hell of a lot of music from super metroid..

you also start in a space station in this game too.

A few other similiarities are there.. it's about as close to super as you're going to get in 3d i think.

James McGeachie
03-06-2009, 11:32 PM
^There is no Ice level in Super Metroid.

I guess the Frigate is also quite similar to the Wrecked ship in SM though.

Seriously though there arent that many similarities other than it being the first 3D Metroid game and trying to keep as many elements as it could.

Emasher
03-06-2009, 11:34 PM
In what ways?

They're both proper open world Metroid games. And they both feel less linear than the others in the series. Even though Metroid Prime gave you a bit more of a goal, in both you were trying to explore to find out what you do next.

mcj metroid
03-06-2009, 11:36 PM
oh ya there wasn;t actually was there...must be thinking of zero mission there or something..

McMad
03-06-2009, 11:36 PM
^There is no Ice level in Super Metroid.

There was that icy corridor wasn't there? :heh:

Anyway Super Metroid is much more of a remake than Prime is.

mcj metroid
03-06-2009, 11:37 PM
There was that icy corridor wasn't there? :heh:

Anyway Super Metroid is much more of a remake than Prime is.

er what do you mean ha?
metroid a remake of the original.. well i agree but in the same way metroid prime is an update too.

McMad
03-06-2009, 11:47 PM
My bad. I was thinking of the corridor that links to the entrance to Tourain (room with boss statues). Turns out it's just foggy - not icy.

Metroid Prime has too much of its own identity to be called a remake of Super Metroid.

Dan Dare
03-06-2009, 11:49 PM
It is very similar though.

not that I care. I think it's one of the best games of all time.

darksnowman
04-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Read that interview posted by H-o-T and I'm still interested in this Metroid game.

Have I turned the corner?

mcj metroid
04-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Metroid Prime has too much of its own identity to be called a remake of Super Metroid.

oh no im not using remake as a bad thing at all.. more of an update.. sharing elements with the best metroid game of all time isn't a bad thing either :)

Read that interview posted by H-o-T and I'm still interested in this Metroid game.

Have I turned the corner?
you're seeing the light!?

what the fuck is going on?

darksnowman
04-06-2009, 12:05 AM
you're seeing the light!?

what the fuck is going on?

What we need to do is hook me up to Wii Vitality and see what happens when I watch the trailer!

Dante
04-06-2009, 02:00 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/29og4ns.jpg
Look behind Samus and the chameleon enemy. :p

Choze
04-06-2009, 04:08 AM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

EchoDesiato
04-06-2009, 05:18 AM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

This isn't an RPG. And it's not just Team Ninja. It's Team Ninja working together with the Nintendo studio responsible for all 2D Metroids ever, so the potential for this game is massive. I think it's a good thing Retro is allowed to do other things at the moment.

FalcoLombardi
04-06-2009, 05:21 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/29og4ns.jpg
Look behind Samus and the chameleon enemy. :p

I already mentioned that.








:p

Retro_Link
04-06-2009, 11:11 AM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?They are in no way erasing Prime. The Prime story is over, time to move on!...

And yeah Retro need to be allowed to do their own thing now. If they'd been put on another Metroid project I'm not sure they would have stuck around with Nintendo much longer tbh.

Strange Cookie
04-06-2009, 11:18 AM
It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

I suppose you already know, but Star Fox: Assault was developed by Namco? True, it's not the highlight of the series.

Anyway, I can understand that Retro was a bit fed up with Metroid. After all, how long have they been working with the franchise? Pretty long. After a while you crave something new. And the Prime-concept was running out of juice anyway. Don't want to end up like Kojima who can't work on anything without the criticism that it isn't a Metal Gear. Well, Castlevania pretty much changed that, but you catch my drift.

Guess we'll have to wait and see for this one. Can't say I'm already sold. Want to see more gameplay and less flashy cutscenes.

ShadowV7
04-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Not all Metroids need to be done by Retro, besides, they're working on something else. Nor is it just Team Ninja working on it. I can't help but feel that folk are forgetting that Nintendo are also working on it.

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 12:27 PM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

I didn't think it were possible for anyone to not be happy or at least partly pleased with this game...but there's always one.

Prime is over. It's done. It's a trilogy and forever will be remembered that way. There's not going to do a George Lucas and shit on what good there was in that trilogy and keep carrying it on until every ounce of good has gone. They couldn't have picked a better time to put it down, walk away and try something else.

It's a brave decision, and I believe it will pay off in the end. I'm looking forward to this waaaay more than Galaxy 2.

Dan Dare
04-06-2009, 12:28 PM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

I love that RPG subgenre that's actually a platform game.

Zechs Merquise
04-06-2009, 12:46 PM
No offense but this looked utter crap to me as they seem to be erasing Metroid Prime pretty much. Team Ninja on a RPG? It could be like a Star Fox with Namco. What was wrong with Retro?

What a surprise, Captain of the PS3 fanboys comes in to have a pop at what is possibly the most anticipated and talked about game of the show!

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 01:05 PM
To be fair, Zech and Choze cancel each other out. I can't help but think that if this was football, it would be a drab 0-0 encounter were both teams show off a lot but ultimately fail to make that breakthrough.

I don't know which is the greater of the two evils. Maybe some kind of poll to decide?

Tellyn
04-06-2009, 01:08 PM
I didn't think it were possible for anyone to not be happy or at least partly pleased with this game...but there's always one.

Don't worry Flink, it's just Choze. :)

I'm just about to buy Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword, as the trailer's gotten me unusually hyped for a Metroid game... On HMV, it still comes with the limited edition katana stylus!

/ nando /
04-06-2009, 01:13 PM
Don't worry Flink, it's just Choze. :)

I'm just about to buy Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword, as the trailer's gotten me unusually hyped for a Metroid game... On HMV, it still comes with the limited edition katana stylus!

It's a pretty decent game :smile:

I completed it in a few days and although it was quite repetitive, I did enjoy my time with it :smile:

Ninja Gaiden has always seemed appealing to me, but I've never really had a chance to play one other than Dragon Sword.. but for me, the new Metroid looks better each time I watch it :yay:

EchoDesiato
04-06-2009, 02:02 PM
To be fair, Zech and Choze cancel each other out. I can't help but think that if this was football, it would be a drab 0-0 encounter were both teams show off a lot but ultimately fail to make that breakthrough.


Exactly. I want this console wars bullshit to stay out of my Metroid thread.

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Exactly. I want this console wars bullshit to stay out of my Metroid thread.

Haha, Metroid needs to remain puuure.

Also, well done to ShineyLightWoman (DarkSnowMan) (also, DSM) for turning the corner. I hope this game keeps on drawing you into the bosom of Mother Brain.

Hero-of-Time
04-06-2009, 02:08 PM
Read that interview posted by H-o-T and I'm still interested in this Metroid game.

Have I turned the corner?

I can sense it, Hell has frozen over!

Eenuh
04-06-2009, 02:08 PM
Even I am slightly interested in this game now after seeing that trailer, and I've never even played a Metroid game. =P

Still, chances are low I'll ever play it, though it'll all depend what direction this game is given I guess.

or else you will DIE
04-06-2009, 03:15 PM
you should at least play Super Metroid

Eenuh
04-06-2009, 03:17 PM
you should at least play Super Metroid

I tried it for like, two minutes, and didn't really like it. =P
Just not a big fan of platformers usually, so it didn't grab me.

gaggle64
04-06-2009, 03:18 PM
I think it's kind of funny hearing the complaints that this sort of action perspective is all wrong for the series following the Prime games - I can still recall the complaints about turning a classic platformer like Metroid into a "FPS" after Prime was first unveiled. :heh:

Shino
04-06-2009, 04:02 PM
I think its great they find yet another way to re-imagine the series. Genius move really and it seems in the right direction.

Dan Dare
04-06-2009, 04:05 PM
It's not the perspective that worries me- it's the potential shift towards action at the expense of what makes the series appealing.

also: not digging the story elements. At all.

david.dakota
04-06-2009, 04:06 PM
I think it's kind of funny hearing the complaints that this sort of action perspective is all wrong for the series following the Prime games - I can still recall the complaints about turning a classic platformer like Metroid into a "FPS" after Prime was first unveiled. :heh:

Like I said to Lindsey, they could release Metroid: Samus' Dancing Shoes and i'd be happy (thats a lie, i really had no interest in Pinball but you get the idea)

I see no reason why franchises can't dabble in a range of genres, keeps things fresh. Despite my love of the Prime series, i'm absolutely glad Retro are working on something (hopefully) new, and this particular series is evolving once again.

And lets face it, Samus is a Bounty Hunter, so she's gonna kick ass any way she can (arm canon or no arm cannon).

mcj metroid
04-06-2009, 04:27 PM
it;s impossible to judge it but i'll say this from the trailer

1) seems to be attempting more of a story, een samus talks
2) i think it's clearly based before most metroids anyway
3) a well needed refreshing take on the series

Another prime wouln't have worked and this comes from a massive prime fan.. 3 never made me begging for more.

I can't wait!

It's not the perspective that worries me- it's the potential shift towards action at the expense of what makes the series appealing.

also: not digging the story elements. At all.

think of it like what resident evil 4 did for resident evil... definetly more action packed but it lost nothing

darksnowman
04-06-2009, 04:45 PM
it;s impossible to judge it but i'll say this from the trailer

3) a well needed refreshing take on the series


Yep, agreed. Impossible to judge it but the trailer is really well put together and pretty exhilarating to watch- not the norm for Nintendo games! Metroid is definitely in need of a rethink after having a set of games in first person.

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 04:47 PM
I wonder if the Metroid switch from 1st to 3rd will mean Zelda switches from 3rd to 1st, haha.

ShadowV7
04-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Zelda already switches from 1st to 3rd :heh:

Bow and Arrow!

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Zelda already switches from 1st to 3rd :heh:

Bow and Arrow!

You got your comeback wrong. He switches from 3rd to 1st. :heh:

Pffft, as if that counts. :heh:

Zechs Merquise
04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
I think it's kind of funny hearing the complaints that this sort of action perspective is all wrong for the series following the Prime games - I can still recall the complaints about turning a classic platformer like Metroid into a "FPS" after Prime was first unveiled. :heh:

:bowdown: I remember those too. People were up in arms, especially as they said thegrapple beam, jumping and screw attack would be dropped or be broken. In the end Prime ended up being one of the best games ever.

I think its great they find yet another way to re-imagine the series. Genius move really and it seems in the right direction.

Exactly!

navarre
04-06-2009, 05:22 PM
I wonder if the Metroid switch from 1st to 3rd will mean Zelda switches from 3rd to 1st, haha.

Now that is an idea.

Not a good one, but it'd be interesting to see.

Fierce_LiNk
04-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Now that is an idea.

Not a good one, but it'd be interesting to see.

Haha, it definitely is interesting. Although, I think it all depends on how decent the swordplay can be done on the Wii, particularly with WiiMotionPlus. If the Zelda series were one which was orientated around gunfire and stuff, then I think it could handle the jump into 1st Person quite easily.

One thing though, it would make exploring the dungeons very different. I'd actually love to see some footage of classic Zelda dungeons but in first person all the way through. Mmm.

Daft
04-06-2009, 05:48 PM
also: not digging the story elements. At all.

What I've always wanted.

I'm psyched for this game. I really hope it delivers but it's pretty much already a must buy for me.

dwarf gourami
04-06-2009, 06:04 PM
I like how the game is mixing 3 perspectives, I don't think many, if any games have done that before. Well Warioware does but that's different. I mean games shouldn't be bound to one camera if it uses all 3 well.

I think Samus in 3rd person will be awesome though. This is more an action title than a scan/adventure one which is good and bad at the same time. Can't have it all.

Captain Falcon
04-06-2009, 09:28 PM
2) i think it's clearly based before most metroids anyway


Yoshio Sakamoto confirmed it takes place between Super and Fusion.

There's an interview on 1 up with him and some guy from Team Ninja.

It also mentioned that there aren't two Samus' but he was reluctant to say who the other blonde lady was - I'm thinking unknown sister.

Found the link - here you go (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3174587&p=44) for those that haven't seen it.

James McGeachie
04-06-2009, 10:21 PM
I wonder if any other sites have had a chance to interview them! I want to see as much information about this as possible. Also as much about Dread as possible even if it's just subtle hints that they might be working on it.

The best so far was him saying that it 'might come out some day' or something which wasn't really what I wanted to hear!

Dante
04-06-2009, 10:24 PM
IGN Interview! (http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/991/991793p1.html)

At E3 2009 in Los Angeles we had the chance to chat with famed Metroid series influencer and Metroid: Other M director Yoshio Sakamoto about the forthcoming Project M-developed game. Sakamoto spoke candidly about the ambitious title's focus and also confirmed that Metroid Dread for DS is not yet forgotten.


IGN: Metroid: Other M was a huge surprise for us at E3 2009 and we're really excited for it. We're wondering how the partnership with Team Ninja came about.

Yoshio Sakamoto: I've been working on Metroid games for quite awhile, but in 2006, having seen the Wii, its capabilities and the features available through it, I wanted to challenge myself to see what I could produce for that particular system and it was at that point that I started mulling other concepts. My team and myself have had experience working on Metroid game, but it's all been in the handheld realm and it's all been in 2D, so we lacked both the experience and the manpower to create a 3D Metroid experience. It was at that time that I realized I needed to find a partner help me realize my concept.

When I was considering what I was going to look for in this partner, I not only wanted to find somebody who was going to understand my concept as it existed, but could also contribute based on their own experience and expertise and I was very fortunate when I proposed this idea to members of Team Ninja and they seemed to really be able to understand and grasp my idea and they were happy to jump on board as well.

During those initial meetings, I did not approach Team Ninja knowing that they were Team Ninja and had that experience behind them. Granted, I appreciated the fact that they did have game development experience, but not specifically with regard to action games. What I was looking for was a partner that could contribute their strengths and possibly balance out our weaknesses, assuming we could do the same for them. We have the experience of creating Metroid games. They have the experience of creating action games. Together, instead of being Nintendo and Team Ninja, we became Project M. And our goal is to create the best Metroid: Other M that we can.

IGN: How is Project M separated between the teams? How big is the overall team?

Yoshio Sakamoto: In addition to the members of the staff from Nintendo and Team Ninja, as you saw in the trailer, there are a lot of cinematics that help us tell the story within Other M so we're also working with a company called D-Rockets, led by a director named Mr. Kitaura. In total, with the the three companies combined that make Project M, we have over 100 people on our staff.

IGN: We're all huge Metroid fans. We loved Super Metroid and Metroid Prime. So we're really psyched that we're finally going to get some real back story on Samus. How much in terms of story and cinematics can we expect?

Yoshio Sakamoto: One thing I need to explain is that I was really not that involved directly in the development of the Metroid Prime series. What I was involved in was the development of the initial NES Metroid, the GBA Metroid, Super Metroid and then finally Metroid Fusion. And within that timeline, the Other M story will take place between Super Metroid and the Fusion stories. What I hope to achieve with Other M is answer those questions -- you know, who is Samus? What is her background? Who are the characters that made her what she is? All these questions and more will be answered. I could tell you a little more about the details of what you might expect, but I don't want to ruin it for you so I'll just leave it at that.

IGN: Can we expect a lot of storytelling and cinematics in the game?

Yoshio Sakamoto: That's actually a really interesting question. A lot of times movies within games are handled as decorations as augment the experience, but my goal is to make the whole experience very seamless. So when you're going from an action sequence where you're controlling it and then the game will naturally progress into the cinematics. So I hope the experience is very seamless and natural.

IGN: Has working with Team Ninja brought about a more action-oriented Metroid with less focus on adventure?

Yoshio Sakamoto: I think Metroid has always been a little bit of action as well as adventure, but because we are teaming up with Team Ninja, I do think that they will bring things to the table that we haven't been able to do in the past. But again, a huge part of Metroid is the adventure aspect and we do want to stay true to that as well.

IGN: Can you give us some idea of how the controls work?

Yoshio Sakamoto: I'm terribly sorry, but I can't give you details on the controls at this time.

IGN: How do the third-person and first-person action coexist?

Yoshio Sakamoto: Unfortunately, I can't give you details on how the perspective is going to be used in the game either, but if you take the time to really dissect the trailer, you should get a pretty good idea of maybe how the game is going to play. Our goal ultimately is to create the ultimate Metroid experience so really pay attention to the trailer and I think it should give you some good impressions. That said, though, development is progressing at a pretty good pace, so I'm think I should be able to supply a demo for you guys to experience pretty soon.

IGN: When you beat the original Metroid, there's a warning of 'another Metroid.' Is that what 'Other M' refers to in the title of the Wii game?

Yoshio Sakamoto: The NES Metroid? I don't remember.

IGN: [Laughing] We guess that answers it then. Okay, we have to ask about Metroid Dread. It popped up on an internal Nintendo release list awhile back and we haven't heard anything about it since.

Yoshio Sakamoto: This is quite awhile ago. A few E3s back. I can only say right now that this is Other M, it is not Metroid Dread. But as a concept the Metroid Dread idea does still exist within my mind so maybe sometime in the future I will be able to bring that to you.

IGN: Are you burned out on the prospect of doing another 2D Metroid, or does the possibility still excite you, maybe for WiiWare or DSiWare, if nothing else?

Yoshio Sakamoto: It's not as though my team or myself have grown tired of creating 2D games, but I think it's all what the concept is, what the game design is, and what best suits that whether it's on the Wii or DS. So moving forward, if an idea comes up that is best suited for DS then we'll pursue that.

IGN: Great. Any final comments on Metroid: Other M that you really want Metroid fans to know about?

Yoshio Sakamoto: What my team and I are shooting for is the ultimate Metroid experience. Up until now we've created the Samus who, yes, is indeed a strong, charming and very cool heroine. But what we're hoping to create is a Samus now that not just fans of Metroid will appreciate, but everyone who is experiencing the game. So I'm hoping that everyone looks forward to exploring that Metroid world and experiencing Samus as a character.

James McGeachie
04-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Haha, that's virtually exactly what I was wanting minutes before you posted that.

It seems Dread still doesn't exist in any solid form then, it was just concepts and ideas that he was playing with but I guess never took far into actual development. I guess no one ever did say that they saw the game but I guess perhaps there was some internal confusion about the project's status at one point.

Pretty much guarantees there then that this will be much more action oriented to some degree but the adventure elements will definitely still be there. If beforehand though it was 70% exploration, 30% action then I bet now it's more of a 50-50 balance.

I really love the idea that this is the first 3D Metroid that Sakamoto is heavily involved with. For people who don't know, he actually directed Metroid 1 (based on Gunpei Yokoi's concept I believe), Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission. I'm not sure about Metroid 2 though.

Basically though he's the man responsible for the majority of what makes the classic games so great and his influence was mostly missing for Prime.

kav82
04-06-2009, 10:47 PM
This absolutely has to be my most anticipated game! Bring on that demo as soon as possible man! I'd love to see that!

Emasher
04-06-2009, 10:57 PM
I'm still not sure this is exactly a 3D game. It still looks to be axis limited to me. But I'm sure the adventure will still be there, I think it was mentioned in an interview that they're keeping a balance. It wouldn't make sense to put adventure in a trailer anyway.

kav82
04-06-2009, 10:59 PM
I'm still not sure this is exactly a 3D game. It still looks to be axis limited to me. But I'm sure the adventure will still be there, I think it was mentioned in an interview that they're keeping a balance. It wouldn't make sense to put adventure in a trailer anyway.

Looking at the trailer, it seems that way to me too... but hell, I don't mind one bit! Haha

mcj metroid
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
I gotta say im sick of hearing about dread... it popped up randomly on a release list and that's it.. It existed some say but won't come out.. and nobody knew what it was..

I still want a 2d ds metroid though... metroid has yet to be cool on ds.. pinball and hunters compared to zero-mission and fusion on gba.. CMON!

James McGeachie
04-06-2009, 11:06 PM
I'm still not sure this is exactly a 3D game. It still looks to be axis limited to me. But I'm sure the adventure will still be there, I think it was mentioned in an interview that they're keeping a balance. It wouldn't make sense to put adventure in a trailer anyway.

I don't think it's axis limited. Some scenes in the trailer are certainly "scripted" gameplay of course though.

Anyway the main reason I don't think it's axis limited is there are some parts that specifically seem like areas you can move around within. Like there are large circular looking rooms Samus is fighting at points and areas like that make no sense if you were just following one Axis and the level was moving around with you.

I don't expect as much freedom to explore as the 2d titles and perhaps maybe slightly less than Prime even but I don't think it's goint to be drastically restrained, I'm sure you can move within 3 dimensions at least.

I gotta say im sick of hearing about dread... it popped up randomly on a release list and that's it.. It existed some say but won't come out.. and nobody knew what it was..

The frickin series director (director of Metroid, SM, MF and MZM) just said in that interview (and the 1up one/Kotaku) that it might still come to be.

"Dread" isn't so much a game itself it seems but a concept of a DS 2D Metroid, so when they talk about it they're basically talking about about any new 2D Metroid on DS.

The DS still seems to have a long lifespan ahead of it even now so it's entirely likely it will still come to be. I'm sure that's why they didn't just outright set Other M after Fusion, because they still plan on having a sidescroller continue the main story as "Metroid V".

Captain Falcon
04-06-2009, 11:25 PM
I really love the idea that this is the first 3D Metroid that Sakamoto is heavily involved with. For people who don't know, he actually directed Metroid 1 (based on Gunpei Yokoi's concept I believe), Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission. I'm not sure about Metroid 2 though.


I'm fairly sure the original concept was Sakamoto's (though I forget who came up with the idea of Samus) and he had nothing to do with Return of Samus.

Dante
05-06-2009, 12:09 AM
No one wants to talk about this part of the interview?

IGN: How is Project M separated between the teams? How big is the overall team?

Yoshio Sakamoto: In addition to the members of the staff from Nintendo and Team Ninja, as you saw in the trailer, there are a lot of cinematics that help us tell the story within Other M so we're also working with a company called D-Rockets, led by a director named Mr. Kitaura. In total, with the the three companies combined that make Project M, we have over 100 people on our staff.

david.dakota
05-06-2009, 08:02 AM
Are you refering to D-Rockets (haven't heard of them) or the team size, or something else?

Goron_3
05-06-2009, 08:58 AM
Are you refering to D-Rockets (haven't heard of them) or the team size, or something else?

I think he's referring to the fact that that part of the statement implies the game will be very heavy on cinematics; they're going all out on this title. Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the new bench mark on Wii.

Ahh im just happy they didn't annouce an on-rails metroid :)

Jamba
05-06-2009, 10:19 AM
It's not the perspective that worries me- it's the potential shift towards action at the expense of what makes the series appealing.

Well as you can see from the IGN interview, Sakamoto isn't going to let that happen.

Retro_Link
05-06-2009, 10:20 AM
No one wants to talk about this part of the interview?You could!
Ahh im just happy they didn't annouce an on-rails metroid :)True!

Jamba
05-06-2009, 10:22 AM
You could!


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