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phez_boy
23-11-2005, 08:01 AM
here r 10 very interesting and valid reasons 2 skip the better-graphics-box and wait for a true revolution! possibly a small piece of fanboy-isms thrown in :p

http://cube.ign.com/articles/670/670078p1.html

The3rdChildren
23-11-2005, 08:05 AM
I'll just get both. That way everyone wins, and by everyone I mean me.

Cheapshot
23-11-2005, 08:12 AM
Personally I'm not interested in the 360, the reviews have been awful; Condemned is the only decent exclusive launch title they got in America and most of the games look like high-end Xbox games.

Jordan
23-11-2005, 08:21 AM
Do bare in mind all the first batch of launch titles use only one of the 3 XBOX360 cores due to the original shitty 1 core beta kits they got to develop on.

PGR3, PDZ and Kameo are all great titles. Plus we can look foward to Ridge Racer 6, DoA4 amongst other things.

Cheapshot
23-11-2005, 09:24 AM
PGR3, PDZ and Kameo are all great titles. Plus we can look foward to Ridge Racer 6, DoA4 amongst other things.

They're all boring sequels bar Kameo which is looking pretty sweet - it's certainly not enough incentive for me to buy the console though.

Hellfire
23-11-2005, 10:41 AM
Anyone noticed that IGN pretty much confirmed that ubisoft is making a FPS for Revo? SCORE!

mike-zim
23-11-2005, 10:49 AM
i am the type of person that that article was talking about. i cant afford more than 1 consol so i will wait for the rev. not really interested in the other 2 consoles they just bore me. give me something different. that is what the rev does

Raven
23-11-2005, 11:13 AM
have to say, its a pretty bad article.

several of the points are "Nintendo has this game", other other ones are repeated.
eg. xbox360 is costly and NinRev is cheap were considered two different points.

i will get the revolution, simply because i like nintendo games.
done.

RuneSP
23-11-2005, 11:19 AM
OMG guys, some of u are talking like the article was trying to be serious... i found it pretty funny, although it had some points too :D

Konfucius
23-11-2005, 11:22 AM
For me there are only three particular reason to get a Revo:

1. it's Nintendo so I know what I can expect
2. it has a new controller
3. Smash Bros Online

and a fourth point would be Zelda.
I thought some of the point made in the article were quite good, others were very unimaginative but I don't need ten reasons anyways.

And the reason why I'm only buying one console is that I already have about 30 game for GC so if I had a second console I'd have an even broader library to choose from which meant I either wouldn't get most of the game I want or I would not be able to save any money anymore.

Stefkov
23-11-2005, 11:31 AM
well some of it was right, nintendo does has zelda which is an awesome game. and the controller made me want it even more.

MonkeyPunch
23-11-2005, 12:07 PM
Only two points are worth mentioning: #1 Revolution's price point and #10 the controller.

raven_blade2006
23-11-2005, 12:44 PM
To skip the 360 because it is good, but not great. M$ playin everyone for fools, with their Xbox with an upgrade.

Gaijin von Snikbah
23-11-2005, 01:02 PM
How about the Xbox 360 having nothing new to offer? Just the same old games over again.

ViPeR
23-11-2005, 01:25 PM
Anyone noticed that IGN pretty much confirmed that ubisoft is making a FPS for Revo? SCORE!

I also noticed the mention of 'kid icarus'.

KingOfHyrule
23-11-2005, 01:37 PM
I've never had any other console but Nintendo's, but if anything I would consider a PS3 to sit alongside my Rev, but sorry, never an Xbox360. Just doesn't appeal to me.

MunKy
23-11-2005, 02:48 PM
A revised version of this article should be up in giant poster form in all game shops. 360 has no arguments for killer ap exclusive games really, most of them will be out on PC after a while just like Fable and Halo. As for PDZ, I wasnt a fan of the first one, Goldeneye and Turok 2 were much better. While I think of it I would love Turok for Revo but not like the travesty that was Turok: Evolution.

Tarantino
23-11-2005, 02:55 PM
That Article is the worst thing i ever read...

I will get a Xbox360 (launch day) I am still unsure about the Revo; the main reason been that notting but murmers of game are doing the rounds and zero titles have been anounced yet but I am sure I will get more hyped for the console between now a next June.

demonmike04
23-11-2005, 03:33 PM
X360 does have a very impressive online mode though, Xbox Live will continue to dominate in my opinion, but I wanna see how the other companies plan the online features.

Nice article, but im a Nintendo Fan so maybe thats why :P I want a 360 still tho

P.S. I have a phez in my room :D

BeerMonkey
23-11-2005, 04:03 PM
#10. Limited Funds and Quantities - get the high end system and 1 or 2 games will set you back £400 appox but with the high end one you get hard drive etc.


#9. Same Games, Prettier Graphics - justified, there will be loads of this on all the consoles.....not kameo thou *ticks the 360 scoresheet cause it has kameo*

#8. 360 Doesn't Have Legend of Zelda - ya true but you the rev prob wont have zelda as a release game also you can get both a 360 and rev (it only ONE game also...well maybe 2 down the line)

7. Girls and Grandpas Will Play Revolution - wow my grandpa and g/f will play a rev but will refuse to play on a 360...why?(my g/f plays my gc and xbox with me loads of times)

#6. Metroid Prime 3 - *halo 3 balls in your court*

#5. Revolution Will Be a Lot Cheaper - not ALOT cheaper but will be cheaper no doubt but i very much doubt alot will hold on and wait to save 50-100 quid

#4. True Backward Compatibility - yea but the 360 will have a improved xbox live service and will run alot of the xbox games apparently

#3. Revolution is Small, Stylish, and Quiet - i played a 360 in HMV in sheffield and while playing a kameo demo i couldnt hardly hear the console it was quiet and the pad was alot better than the current xbox's. The appearance of the console to which looks better is down to opinion and the 360 isnt THAT big

#2. Super Smash Bros. Online - has this been announced?...no pics yet...no review yet

#1. The Controller Will Change Everything - there will be alot of people wanting to get a rev to see what the controller will be like. But there will also be some that wont want to buy it cause they may think you cant play games for a long time without ur hands going numb etc. Will also be people that wont buy it and just like to stick to what they know and thats the 360 and ps3 pads which havent changed much.


*just being a realist with this as it was made by a pure nintendo fanboy and thought like throwing some water on it*

Shyguy
23-11-2005, 04:12 PM
no offence replika but this

#3. Revolution is Small, Stylish, and Quiet - i played a 360 in HMV in sheffield and while playing a kameo demo i couldnt hardly hear the console it was quiet and the pad was alot better than the current xbox's. The appearance of the console to which looks better is down to opinion and the 360 isnt THAT big

true it isnt as big as i thought but its still big and also it is behind plastic that is as thick as my hand so it no doubt is noisy also the power pack thing on the plug is HUGE

CooInTheZoo
23-11-2005, 04:14 PM
Anyone reading that would think microsoft are evil!!


..oh wait

DCK
23-11-2005, 05:24 PM
I like it when IGN makes these we're-fanboys-and-proud-of-it articles.

There's no point in picking up a 360 at launch anyway. It needs a price cut before I get interested.

LazyBoy
23-11-2005, 05:39 PM
#10. Limited Funds and Quantities - get the high end system and 1 or 2 games will set you back £400 appox but with the high end one you get hard drive etc.


#9. Same Games, Prettier Graphics - justified, there will be loads of this on all the consoles.....not kameo thou *ticks the 360 scoresheet cause it has kameo*

#8. 360 Doesn't Have Legend of Zelda - ya true but you the rev prob wont have zelda as a release game also you can get both a 360 and rev (it only ONE game also...well maybe 2 down the line)

7. Girls and Grandpas Will Play Revolution - wow my grandpa and g/f will play a rev but will refuse to play on a 360...why?(my g/f plays my gc and xbox with me loads of times)

#6. Metroid Prime 3 - *halo 3 balls in your court*

#5. Revolution Will Be a Lot Cheaper - not ALOT cheaper but will be cheaper no doubt but i very much doubt alot will hold on and wait to save 50-100 quid

#4. True Backward Compatibility - yea but the 360 will have a improved xbox live service and will run alot of the xbox games apparently

#3. Revolution is Small, Stylish, and Quiet - i played a 360 in HMV in sheffield and while playing a kameo demo i couldnt hardly hear the console it was quiet and the pad was alot better than the current xbox's. The appearance of the console to which looks better is down to opinion and the 360 isnt THAT big

#2. Super Smash Bros. Online - has this been announced?...no pics yet...no review yet

#1. The Controller Will Change Everything - there will be alot of people wanting to get a rev to see what the controller will be like. But there will also be some that wont want to buy it cause they may think you cant play games for a long time without ur hands going numb etc. Will also be people that wont buy it and just like to stick to what they know and thats the 360 and ps3 pads which havent changed much.


Sorry Replika but it looked as though you just ran through the article looking at the point headers, not reading the points themselves.

10. Actually I didn't think he went far enough with this point. If you want to fully experience the 360 you're gonna have to buy an HDTV, which don't come cheap. Ofcourse this depends on whther or not you already have one.

9. You know what, i'm kinda disapointed that Kameo isn't the killer app I wanted it to be. IGN gave it an 8.something. I've still got it on order though.

8. Didn't totally understand this but the point actually went for the whole, "a 360 won't have all the Nintendo franchises" thing. Not just Zelda.

7. We'll have to see, but if it gets my mum playing i'll be impressed. Hey Nintendogs did it.

6. Purely a matter of opinion.

5. See point 10.

4. I'm sorry mate but the download service on the Rev cannot be matched, its just incredible, especially for a Retro lover such as me.

3. I'm totally with you on this one, some people like big consoles anyway.

2. Again I don't think you read the whole point. It was saying that if the online service is anywhere as simple and fast as the DSs then it'll be great. Oh and SSBR - yes it has been announced, and the director was recently announced too.

1. No one can say what'll happen. We just have to wait and watch


By the way my XBox 360 is already pre-ordered just to show my impartiality.

Hellfire
23-11-2005, 06:07 PM
Just want to point out that X360 IS noisy. Not to mention that lots of 360s are crashing or having even worse problems, but that's another subject.

Pit-Jr
23-11-2005, 06:15 PM
#9. Same Games, Prettier Graphics - justified, there will be loads of this on all the consoles.....not kameo thou *ticks the 360 scoresheet cause it has kameo*

you mean Majoras Mask 2?

Hero of Time
23-11-2005, 06:28 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668897p1.html

...Top 10 Reasons to buy an Xbox 360...

just for those who want to compare. ;)

Sooj
23-11-2005, 06:34 PM
30% of their points were about games that Xbox doesn't have and Revolution does. You could easily reverse that in their face with games like Halo 3 and PGR.

Point number 9: Same Games, Prettier Graphics
You can basically say about all of Nintendo's games. They've had very few innovations in the whole game market recently, Pikmen and Animal Crossing are about the only two decent ones we've seen created recently. As for Mario, Zelda, Metriod, Starfox, etc. they just keep appearing in the same games with better graphics as far as I'm concerned.

Point 7: Girls and Grandpas Will Play Revolution
There is about a .01% chance that either of my grandpas will ever play a revolution. They are not really the type of people who enjoy waving their arms in the air with their hand pointed at a TV. And the part about girls is plain generalization, I'm surprised they didn't get slapped for that.

Point #10 and point #5 are the same thing. Point #10 adds that its harder to get, but there hasn't been a console in history that hasn't sold out. DS wasn't too hard to get, but DS wasn't released right before christmas either and consoles always sell faster than handhelds. I can guarantee you that Rev will be hard to get at first also.

Point #4: I won't argue that Rev has better backwards compatibility, but "Five generations of AAA software. One console." is stretching it quite a bit considering only first party games will be sure to be available.

That article contains 3 undisputably valid points, #1, #3 and #5, and that's about it.

As for this article: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668897p1.html

Point 10: You can pretty much argue first party exclusive games with any console. In fact, the article on rev did just that except it used 3 points instead of 1.

Point 9: Wireless Controllers: Not unique, not innovative, nothing special period. First of all, they even admit that Nintendo was the one who brought wireless controllers to the masses (wavebird). Why this makes Xbox worth buying the others I have no idea considering all will support wireless controllers.

#8: Launch lineup is not a reason to buy a console, I would hope that when you plop down $200-$400 your looking for it to last quite a while, not just right at the beginning. I suspect Rev will have an even better launch lineup than Xbox 360, especially if SSB is in it.

#7. Backward Compatibility: wow where did this come from? Didn't I just finish telling them that Gamecube has better backwards compatibility?

6. Xbox Live Arcade: Its hard to see how this will be able to beat Nintendo's back catalog.

5. Impressive Graphic Power at Good Prices: *cough* The two tier launch structure is retarded not flexible, and PS3 is going to completely pwn Xbox 360 when it comes to power. And Rev will pwn Xbox 360 when it comes to price.

4: Not as bad as the others but still, its been done before. Ever heard of PSP? Do you think PS3 will be able to play movies and music? The answer is hell yes.

1: This is not a point. Obviously once a system is released it becomes current generation, not next-generation. Next implys future. Next generation can never be "now".

3 and 2 are the only two valid points, and they are both about Xbox live. That's because Xbox live is really the only good thing about Xbox 360. Its the only thing microsoft really did right.

Seriously, IGN needs to hire some better writers. You can't use the same damn points when your comparing which of two things is better.

Kurtle Squad
23-11-2005, 06:51 PM
Only two points are worth mentioning: #1 Revolution's price point and #10 the controller.

What about true backwrds compatability?!
And Sooj...Metroid Prime & Echoes are completely different to the others.

wario
23-11-2005, 08:16 PM
i would get 1 at launch but i no i cant cosi neva pre ordered so now i got 300 pounds lyin here ready 4 a rev now that the xbox 360 wont c a second batch till march, so m$ uve lost 1 costumor

kellett03
23-11-2005, 11:19 PM
cube.ign going down the drain with these articles

Marshmellow
23-11-2005, 11:37 PM
holy crap http://search.ebay.com/Xbox-360_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300

Mr. Bananagrabber
24-11-2005, 07:23 AM
I'll just get both. That way everyone wins, and by everyone I mean me.
Same here. We rawk.

phez_boy
24-11-2005, 07:33 AM
lol i did warn you all there was a slight touch of fanboy-ism to this story... i mean im a major fanboy and even i think so lol

mike-zim
24-11-2005, 08:48 AM
even a sweat shirt is going for $76

DCK
24-11-2005, 10:17 AM
Come on people, these articles are tongue-in-cheek articles, there's no point in taking every point and telling everybody 'oh wait, that's not true' them or saying 'omg their fanboyz'. These articles are made on purpose from a fanboy perspective and half the reasons are there because they needed to have 10 reasons. You make it seem like it's meant massively make people stop buying a 360 which just isn't true.

BeerMonkey
24-11-2005, 10:43 AM
true u caught me i didnt read it cause i dont see the point in reading pages that a fanboy put

MonkeyPunch
24-11-2005, 12:56 PM
What about true backwrds compatability?!
And Sooj...Metroid Prime & Echoes are completely different to the others.

What about it?
I don't care if a console has it or not. Backwards compatability is just a bonus, one that most people (myself included) aren't even going to use. It's not essential.

Innovance
24-11-2005, 01:41 PM
Rev is only backwards compatible with GC.

360 backwards compatibilty is pretty poor especially as you need the harddrive

and PS3, lets just say i heard PS2 had problems with current gen compatibility, was there any truth to that rumour??

JetSetWilly
24-11-2005, 03:19 PM
Oh dear. Not only have Microsoft just released the most boring console in the history of mankind, but on top of that it doesn't even work properly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80491849@N00/

Such a shame, cos I bet Tiger Woods golf is loads more fun now that Tiger looks even more realistic.

MunKy
24-11-2005, 03:32 PM
lol I remember my NES doing that in its later years when I was playing Super Mario Bros. It looked like seaweed was everywhere because the lines were green. It works fine now though.

Haver
24-11-2005, 03:57 PM
As a collective you wear the title of gamer with pride, like a badge of honour, yet with attitudes like this you're anything but.

The Lillster
24-11-2005, 04:34 PM
Rev is only backwards compatible with GC.


So it can't play NES, Snes and N64 games as well then?

Or have I musunderstood you?

MunKy
24-11-2005, 06:09 PM
It can play NES, SNES and N64 games but you cant plug in the carts, you have to download them. Either for free or a small charge.

Pit-Jr
24-11-2005, 06:14 PM
If the Rev has true NES , SNES , and N64 emulation built-in, its gonna be soooooooooo effortless for 3rd parties to bring theyre old games over.

phez_boy
24-11-2005, 08:41 PM
Oh dear. Not only have Microsoft just released the most boring console in the history of mankind, but on top of that it doesn't even work properly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80491849@N00/

Such a shame, cos I bet Tiger Woods golf is loads more fun now that Tiger looks even more realistic.
jeeze what is with people like microsoft and sony releasing products when there not entriely ready... well we dont know bout sony just yet but i do remember the microsoft having a few problems with there original xbox... and knowing sony there damn machine has some much crap jammed in2 it and they'll b in a rush to release it as to beat nintendo so we'll probably see the same with the PS3. not that it really botheres me coz i only plan on buying a rev, although with the new technology in the rev it will b interesting to see if anything goes abit squew-if. but then nintendos has never been one to release a technologicaly dodgy product.

quich_delvyn
25-11-2005, 11:00 PM
being that i can only buy 2 consoles ill stick with what has worked in the past ps3 and rev. i bought an xbox1 and have been disapointed (except kotor)