Lost Series 5

[Dante]

The first Lost series 5 promo is online. :D (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-real-promo-for-season-5.html)

now a better quality version. (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/10/better-quality-version-of-lost-promo.html)

[Patch]

Man, I am so tempted to click that 'Show' button.

Must . . . Resist . . .

[Chuck]

Im doing it again. Clicking on spoiler tags when I shouldnt. Hugo and a silenced pistol... chalk and cheese

[ReZourceman]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH!!!!

Held within the spoiler tags is the most ridiculous things Ive ever read.

Ah good old Lost. Essentially just a comedy to me now.

[Dante]

The "Losties" could possibily be the "Hostiles". Knowing what they (the Losties) know, from the future, they may be aggressive in their attempts to communicate with the DI. Hence the term 'hostile'. After all, Richard didn't seem all that 'hostile' in his convo with little Ben. The 'Losties' would be seen as indiginous inhabitants since they weren't invited or brought to the island by the DI. Also, was there an island before the DI? Or is the island a result of an experiment by the DI? I know you say "But the Black Rock, the four toe statue?.... it's been there forever!" Did you forget the time-warp properties that surround the island. Is the island possibly the center of time? The place that ALL time (universaly) radiates from? A sun-dial of time if you will?

Also, I'd like to address the folks that have a problem with the fact that "if the island only moved in time, it would still be there". I'd say to them "Who said the 70's island was in the same spot as the 2004 island?". Isn't it possible the island has moved several times?. Would the 1884 island be in the same spot as as the 1732 island? After all, it does have the ability to move, what's to say this time was the first time someone moved it? Think about that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH!!!!

Held within the spoiler tags is the most ridiculous things Ive ever read.

Ah good old Lost. Essentially just a comedy to me now.

Its a guess ReZ.
We dont know if its right yet and you didnt watch the trailer before you check the spoiler tag.

[Serebii]

Excellent...it looks to be even more confusing. I cant wait :D

[ReZourceman]

The "Losties" could possibily be the "Hostiles". Knowing what they (the Losties) know, from the future, they may be aggressive in their attempts to communicate with the DI. Hence the term 'hostile'. After all, Richard didn't seem all that 'hostile' in his convo with little Ben. The 'Losties' would be seen as indiginous inhabitants since they weren't invited or brought to the island by the DI. Also, was there an island before the DI? Or is the island a result of an experiment by the DI? I know you say "But the Black Rock, the four toe statue?.... it's been there forever!" Did you forget the time-warp properties that surround the island. Is the island possibly the center of time? The place that ALL time (universaly) radiates from? A sun-dial of time if you will?

Also, I'd like to address the folks that have a problem with the fact that "if the island only moved in time, it would still be there". I'd say to them "Who said the 70's island was in the same spot as the 2004 island?". Isn't it possible the island has moved several times?. Would the 1884 island be in the same spot as as the 1732 island? After all, it does have the ability to move, what's to say this time was the first time someone moved it? Think about that.



Its a guess ReZ.
We dont know if its right yet and you didnt watch the trailer before you check the spoiler tag.

Fair enough. After watching the trailer it still looks ridiculous. I'm sorry but....Ive said it once, I'll say it again, theres absolutely no way they can explain everything unless they say "It was a dream"

[Ramar]

I've still not seen Season 4 thanks to Sky, the bastards. But I had a gander at the spoiler tags and I can say, that I don't know if I want to watch it anymore. It just pisses me off how they never seem to explain anything and everything just gets more and more random and confusing.

Chances are they'll hype up some grand finale and Jack will wake up and the plane landed safely in LA.

[Dante]

or time dont exist that the human mind makes it to be.

[dan-likes-trees]

I've still not seen Season 4 thanks to Sky, the bastards.

Seriously, the DVD for season 4 just came out, and it's really worth it. 'The season lost got good again'. Give it a try, there's some great stuff.

That said, that s5 trailer looks very meh to be honest... hopefully it will surprise me and maintain it's goodness...

[Tales]

You should have some space above the spoiler tag. You can see what is inside it if you hover the mouse above the thread title.

Anyway, not a fan of the sci fi stuff they put in it, but story wise it's still more enjoyable the most series out there.

[Mike]

Looking good, but I hope they don't concentrate too much on the Oceanic 6 and what happens off the island. Lost should be primarily about the island, in my opinion, and to be honest, quite a few of the 6 (Jack, Kate, Sayid. Aaron) aren't the most interesting of characters. I don't really mind the sci-fi / supernatural stuff that's going on in the show now - I think they introduced it just about gradually enough. If the island had disappeared even at the end of series 3 I wouldn't have liked it, but my disbelief was suitably suspended by the time series 4 ended.

[Dante]

Episode 5.01 - Because You Left
Episode 5.02 - The Lie
Episode 5.03 - Jughead
Episode 5.04 - The Little Prince
Episode 5.05 - This Place is Death
Episode 5.06 - The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham


- Daniel Dae Kim seen on the set with the actress playing the young Rousseau.
- Lance Riddick spotted on the set
- Abbadon seen filming a hospital scene with Widmore

[Mokong X-C]

When is season 5 starting?

[Dante]

When is season 5 starting?

February 2009 intill May 2009

[Serebii]

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/destiny-calls-season-5-promo.html

New Trailer

January airing...two hour opener

WOO, 2 months to go!

[DomJcg]

For gods sake, not seen season 4, getting it for christmas though =D

[Serebii]

Awesome, you'll enjoy it. Best season yet. I envy you, not having seen it yet and going into it fresh

[DomJcg]

Yeh, I've watched them all up to 4, i get them at christmas and then watch in the following couple of days, after the ending of 3 i'm quite intrigued (no spoilers!!!) and next year when season 5 comes out i'll get it at chirstmas too =D

[Mike]

Another nice teaser trailer. Very pleased it starts in January - let's hope Sky One isn't far behind.

[Dante]

We don't know where the Island went -- but now know when we'll be seeing it again. ABC insiders say that the fifth season of the Emmy-nominated cypto-drama will premiere with a three-hour event on Jan. 21, 2009, at 8 p.m. That's a Wednesday, in case you don't know next year's calendar by heart, which means that Lost will be returning to its original day-of-the-week slot. (Last season, it aired on Thursday nights.)

While plans are still being finalized, sources indicate Lost will launch with its first two episodes aired back-to-back, not a single, two-hour opus like its season finales. (Should ABC reconsider the plan, look for the first hour of the two-hour event to be some kind of recap special.) Still TBD: if Lost will be making 8 p.m. its weekly Wednesday berth. An 8 p.m. start means the show will be competing against (gulp) Fox's American Idol. At 9 p.m., Lost will be tangling with Fox's new House-meets-The Mentalist procedural, Lie To Me, which will premiere the same night as Lost's return.

Update: The Lost season five premiere will actually be a three hour event! An hour-long recap special will air at 8 PM, followed by the first two episodes from 9-11 PM. The series will air thereafter at 9 PM on Wednesdays.

[ViPeR]

I really hope they don't have the stupidly long delay between series 5 and 6. It's not like they're true 20 episode seasons. I'm interested to see how they're going to explain everything in 30+ episodes. Good luck with that.

[Serebii]

I really hope they don't have the stupidly long delay between series 5 and 6. It's not like they're true 20 episode seasons. I'm interested to see how they're going to explain everything in 30+ episodes. Good luck with that.
It'll be a 7/8 month or so delay as they're going to air them each week without breaks from start to finish of the season

[ViPeR]

I guess after this one, it'll be the last forever? I'm looking forward to the final episode. If it turns out they all died and it's heaven and hell i'll be PISSED.

[Serebii]

I guess after this one, it'll be the last forever? I'm looking forward to the final episode. If it turns out they all died and it's heaven and hell i'll be PISSED.
Na, the producers already said that that is not the explanation

[ReZourceman]

Na, the producers already said that that is not the explanation

IMO they pretty much cannot explain everything. Short of...."its magic" which would be lameeeeee.

Sorry for the LOST hate, I know some people get pissy with hearing negative things about it....but to be fair....its just shocking in comparison to certain other programmes.

[Dante]

Did you watch series 4?

[ReZourceman]

Aye. Though it was good in parts, but basically ridiculous. And I have an extremely high ridiculous tolerance.

[Sheikah]

Aye. Though it was good in parts, but basically ridiculous. And I have an extremely high ridiculous tolerance.

Tbh, it's only ridiculous because we don't know the explanation. It's obviously not gonna be 100% realistic so we can expect some reasoning that bends reality a little.

[Serebii]

The fact it involves science fiction elements such as time travel should be factored into it. If you come in to Lost expecting something realistic then you're a fool. No offense :p

[Mike]

I didn't like the sci-fi / paranormal aspects to it at first, but I thought they introduced them at just the right pace to allow me to suspend my disbelief.

[ReZourceman]

The fact it involves science fiction elements such as time travel should be factored into it. If you come in to Lost expecting something realistic then you're a fool. No offense :p

I am a fool, but not for this. I don't expect realism, but I do expect.....


....Make at least a little bit of sensism.

[Serebii]

I find it makes sense...but that could be because I've watched Sci Fi all my life...I mean sure there's stuff thats unexplained, but that doesnt mean the show doesnt make sense

[Dante]

Fray Music Video (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/new-season-5-promo-and-fray-music-video.html)mX7md0HoR8E&fmt=22

@ 1:10-1:11... At some point (whether due to him being injured/knocked out in the kitchen fight, or because his consciousness is time traveling and the old Sayid freaks out) Jack tries examining Sayid with a doctor's mini-flashlight and giving him an oxygen mask, but Sayid responds violently by choking Jack.


@ 1:13-1:16... Just like Kate screeching to a halt @ LAX in the beginning of the season 4 finale, picking up exactly where S3 left off, at some point we'll revisit where we were in the Hoffs/Drawlar Funeral Parlor @ the end of S4. Jack and Ben have some new dialogue before taking 'Jeremy Bentham' -- Jack: "How did all this happen?" Ben: "It happened because you left, Jack."


@ 2:09-2:12... A barrage of flaming arrows rains down on the camp, ostensibly shot by the same people who are seen holding Dan & Charlotte hostage w/ bows and arrows (@ 1:36-1:38). One fiery bolt appears to actually strike a dead body, and amongst those fleeing we can see Vincent.


@ 2:24... After the Island made his legs give out twice so that it was Boone who fell in the drug smuggler's plane and Eko saw the '?' from that height, Locke finally attempts to scale the vine cliff and actually falls. This may relate to the scenes of his eye opening and him lying in the grass (@ 0:49-0:51), as well as the blood he sees on his hand when he looks down at the compass (@ 2:07-2:08).


@ 2:32-2:35... Seeing everyone standing there for a split second in the last promo video, I couldn't make out what was going on, but the longer clip this time makes it clear our Losties are looking for their tents near the beach, but realize they're all gone.


@ 2:35... Locke and Juliet can be seen emerging from the jungle and looking into the ravine where New Otherton should be, but it's mysteriously absent... even sans sonic fence. It appears that they traveled back in time to before the Barracks were even built, which is interesting, because this indicates that the Hatches were built first. Curious.

Footage in 3rd Fray Teaser Video (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/little-new-footage-in-3rd-fray-teaser.html)

[Dante]

4th Fray Teaser Video (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/4th-fray-teaser-video.html)

[FalcoLombardi]

4th Fray Teaser Video (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/4th-fray-teaser-video.html)

I think I see the monster in this one.

[ViPeR]

So have the losties gone back in time or into the future? It would seem by those flashes they've come back to the war between the others and Dharma. That'd be an interesting story to tell and also potentially future changing. I'm really looking forward to the next season I don't care if people have lost interest. I'm in it until the end.

[Dante]

new series 5 promo (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/11/another-season-5-promo.html)

[Dante]

New Sneak Peek and Message From Darlton (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-sneak-peek-and-message-from-darlton.html)

[Dante]

new trailer. :) (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-promo.html?commentPage=2)

[Dante]

Episode 5.01 - Because You Left. (21 January, 2009)

THE REMAINING SURVIVORS START TO FEEL THE EFFECTS CAUSED BY THE ISLAND BEING MOVED, AND JACK AND BEN BEGIN THEIR QUEST TO REUNITE THE OCEANIC 6 - ALONG WITH LOCKE'S BODY - IN ORDER TO RETURN TO THE ISLAND

The remaining island survivors start to feel the effects of the aftermath of moving the island, and Jack and Ben begin their quest to reunite the Oceanic 6 in order to return to the island with Locke's body in an attempt to save their former fellow castaways.

Written by Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse
Directed by Stephen Williams

Cast
Naveen Andrews as Sayid
Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond
Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday
Michael Emerson as Ben
Matthew Fox as Jack
Jorge Garcia as Hurley
Josh Holloway as Sawyer
Yunjin Kim as Sun
Ken Leung as Miles
Evangeline Lilly as Kate
Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet
Terry O'Quinn as Locke

Guest Cast
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose
Sam Anderson as Bernard
Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert
William Mapother as Ethan Rom
Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle
Sonya Walger as Penelope "Penny" Widmore
Alan Dale as Charles Widmore
Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis
William Blanchett as Aaron
Sean Whalen as Neil Frogurt
Tom Irwin as Dan Norton
Michael Dempsey as foreman
Stephanie Smart as ticket agent
Leslie Ishii as woman
Cindy Paliracio as TV anchor
Brad Berryhill as anxious guy
Sven Lindstrom as crew member
Chantal Boomla as counter girl
Jeremy Colvin as security guard


Episode 5.02 - The Lie (21 January, 2009)

THE REMAINING SURVIVORS START TO FEEL THE EFFECTS CAUSED BY THE ISLAND BEING MOVED, AND JACK AND BEN BEGIN THEIR QUEST TO REUNITE THE OCEANIC 6 - ALONG WITH LOCKE'S BODY
Hurley and Sayid are on the run from the cops after stumbling into trouble at the safehouse; the island survivors come under attack by unknown forces; and an old friend offers some shocking advice to Kate in order to ensure that "the lie" remain a secret.

Written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz
Directed by Jack Bender

Cast
Naveen Andrews as Sayid
Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond
Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday
Michael Emerson as Ben
Matthew Fox as Jack
Jorge Garcia as Hurley
Josh Holloway as Sawyer
Yunjin Kim as Sun
Ken Leung as Miles
Evangeline Lilly as Kate
Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet
Terry O'Quinn as Locke

Guest Cast
Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose
Sam Anderson as Bernard
Sonya Walger as Penelope "Penny" Widmore
Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis
Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus
Lillian Hurst as Carmen Reyes
Cheech Marin as David Reyes
William Blanchett as Aaron
Sean Whalen as Neil Frogurt
Tom Connolly as Jones
Mary Mara as Jill
Dana Sorman as Darlene
James Jeremiah as police officer
Stephanie Conching as nurse
Matthew Allan as Cunningham
Todd Bryant as Mattingly

[Mike]

No Jin on the cast list... Pleased to see Rose and Bernard on it, though - I want them to make it to the end!

[Dante]

No Jin on the cast list... Pleased to see Rose and Bernard on it, though - I want them to make it to the end!

Jin appears in Ep4.

[Happenstance]

2 Advanced Reviews:

http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/941/941328p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-05_091800&RSSid=941328

http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/941/941329p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-05_092000&RSSid=941329

[Dante]

Wahay! Someone else post Lost series 5 infomation. :)

[Serebii]

Dont wanna read them as it'll spoil it. Tis kinda bad to release reviews of stuff like that for shows like lost which thrive on the stuff being unknown

[Mike]

Started to read the first few paragraphs of the review, but chickened out because I didn't want it spoiled. :p

Was interested to see today's video from the Lost creators today - a walk around the writers' offices. Of particular interest was a wall with character photos on split into three sections: alive, dead and undead. Good to see Jin on the alive side, and interesting to see the three that were on the undead side (whatever that means) - Christian, Yemi and Kate's horse.

[Serebii]

I figured Jin would be alive...there are some obvious gaps in the promotional pics that would easily be filled by Jin once they reveal his fate.

[Mike]

Just finished my Lost seasons 1-4 rewatch which I started last summer, just in time. Roll on two weeks time! :D

[Jav_NE]

I'm really interested to see what Sun is up to with Whitmore. I'd be just as pissed if i were her. They practially let Jin die because they couldn't be arsed to risk saving him. I hope Sun kicks some ass!

[Gizmo]

Is Daniel Faraday coming back? That's all I care about. He was awesome.

[Dante]

Is Daniel Faraday coming back? That's all I care about. He was awesome.

Yes, Daniel Faraday is back and one of the mains characther in this series.

Desmond looks for a woman who might be the key to helping Faraday stop the island's unpredictable movements through time; Locke finds out who has been attacking the survivors

LA Times Article (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/la-times-article.html)

This season, the flashbacks and flashforwards will still exist, but another storytelling approach will dominate. And in classic "Lost" tradition, the producers won't explain what they're doing ahead of time.

"We're really happy with the scripts that we're writing, but at the same time, there's this complete sense of fear and second-guessing in terms of whether or not the audience is going to groove on what we're doing," co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof said. "The show is taking on a new model in terms of the way we tell stories and finding a balance between what's happening off the island and on the island. Are the characters having an emotional experience no matter how crazy it is? That's the part we're focused on."

The first seven episodes will focus on the aftermath of Ben's (Michael Emerson) pronouncement to Jack ( Matthew Fox) in the last scene of last season that the Oceanic 6 must all return to the island, including Locke (Terry O'Quinn), who has died. Jack's challenge is to enlist the rescued castaways to go back, but that will prove tricky since he and Kate (Evangeline Lily) have broken up; Sayid (Naveen Andrews) is trotting the globe, killing people for Ben with Hurley (Jorge Garcia) in his custody; and Sun (Yunjin Kim) has gone rogue.

Viewers also will see what's happened to Penny (Sonya Walger) and Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) after she rescued him and learn how Locke left the island and later died. The story of Walt (Malcolm David Kelley), who left the island two seasons ago, will continue, though his father, Michael (Harold Perrineau), died attempting to return to the island in the season finale. Sawyer (Josh Holloway), Juliet (Elizabeth Mitchell) and Charlotte (Rebecca Mader) survive on the island.

"The conventional thinking might be that we're going to spend the entire season telling the story of how and if these charcters are able to make it back to the island," Lindelof said. "That's not what we're doing. Not by any stretch of the imagination."

Since death on "Lost" is a relative term, as Cuse likes to say, fans can expect to see more of Jin ( Daniel Dae Kim) whether he survived the freighter explosion or not; the mysterious Christian Shephard (John Terry), whose death caused his son, Jack, to be on the doomed airliner; and Rousseau (Mira Furlan), who was shot to death. The ageless Richard Alpert (Nestor Carbonell) will pop up again. Although fans do not know what happened to Claire (Emilie de Ravin) -- the actress does not have a regular role this season, mind you -- she will appear during the season.

For that matter, so will Vincent the dog, the only character the producers have committed to keeping alive for the entire run of the series.

[Gizmo]

Then the show will be worth watching. Him and Emilie de Ravin of course.

Am I the only Faraday fan or are there more of us? :p

[GothicPlague]

Then the show will be worth watching. Him and Emilie de Ravin of course.

Am I the only Faraday fan or are there more of us? :p

No you're not. I would go gay for Mr Faraday (slight exaggeration)

[Molly]

The advert says 'The beginning of the end' (or something) and yet there are still more serieseseses, not impressed.

[ReZourceman]

Probably means "The beginning of where we knew where we were actually going with the story"

[/Become a pretty big LOST critic]

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Zomg this is rolling around quick now! I will be buying season 4 on DVD tomorrow, I think, then cram them all in before S5 starts (i have exams 'til the 20th so it may well be staying up all night watching all eps in a row!)

[Jav_NE]

It has been a hell of a wait, but im so excited! Is it a double episode to kick it off? No doubt i'll be sad when i have to wait a whole week for the next part :(

[Oxigen_Waste]

Probably means "The beginning of where we knew where we were actually going with the story"

[/Become a pretty big LOST critic]

ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously. Within it's genre (fantastic), it's a neatly told tale that's far from being the very best ever developed in the genre but is still quite interesting to watch. Isn't that all you care about? The entertainment value of it? I think that what's bothering you is that Lost frustrated you with it's riddles and "too many questions" approach... which is what made Twin Peaks into the masterpiece it is today... and believe me, many of Lost's questions will go purposely unanswered... other than that, it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun.

[ReZourceman]

ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously.

Thing is...what does that actually mean? I don't go into it expecting a serious drama, but it takes itself seriously, in the sense that it is a drama...and such.

ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously. Within it's genre (fantastic), it's a neatly told tale that's far from being the very best ever developed in the genre but is still quite interesting to watch. Isn't that all you care about? The entertainment value of it? I think that what's bothering you is that Lost frustrated you with it's riddles and "too many questions" approach... which is what made Twin Peaks into the masterpiece it is today... and believe me, many of Lost's questions will go purposely unanswered... other than that, it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun.

I think its been extremely shit recently. IMO its not the kind of show that leant itself to being written as it went. It should have been firmly set out and plotted as a whole. I don't like the questions being unanswered, because they are so purposely made out as big deals yadda yadda yadda but thats just a small part of it for me. They use the twists and the mystery to help the show, but it doesnt mean anything if it isn't explained.

I fully know I'm in the minority btw, but yeah. Its just not my cup of tea anymore. Its become ridiculous to the point of silly willy.

[darksnowman]

Is it a double episode to kick it off?

Yep, tis. I saw it advertised last night at the break in 24.

[Molly]

it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun.
Yep, except Heroes isn't fun anymore, let's hope Lost still has some magic left.

[ReZourceman]

As Zack and Miri Make a Porno said ;

"They're on the island, they're off the island...who gives a shit"

[darksnowman]

Yep, except Heroes isn't fun anymore, let's hope Lost still has some magic left.

So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes!

As Zack and Miri Make a Porno said ;

"They're on the island, they're off the island...who gives a shit"

ReZ... atleast you like 24, man.

[ReZourceman]

So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes!

Quite a lot I think. I ADORED it in season 1 and to a lesser extent season 2, but season 3....its just completely screwed itself over, by having plot holes galore, ie Claires blood fixing everything all the time, no one ever actually dieing for real, shock factor "oh its just gonna be Matts mind trick." "oh its not Matts mind trick....well its not even shocking anymore/will just be retconned next episode" then they all seem to switch personalities each episode, and finally Claire is given the worst dialogue in the world. And shes the worst possible person to say bad dialogue. Ugh.

ReZ... atleast you like 24, man.

Damn straight.

[Molly]

So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes!
Similar ro ReZ, I used to worship heroes, couldn't get enough of series 1. But (like many others I believe) I've grown weary and frustrated with it. Excited about Lost though, woo.

[DomJcg]

Rez, what the hell are you talking about? Plot holes aren't plot holes until its explained, then any issues with the plots can begin, you saying there are plot gaps in lost when the series hasn't finished yet is like saying when mr burns got shot "omg its a plot gap because we don't know who shot him". The point of lost is that it's a msytery, that the viewers are kept in the dark about things, when they are revealed they go OMG I GET IT NOW. If you dislike being kept in the dark then stop watching, walk away and watch (imo) the pointless gun fire in 24.

[darksnowman]

Even though you tried to justify saying that 24 is just pointless gunfire with an "imo," I'm still disappointed with you, Dom. :heh: 24 is so much more than gunfire... there are knives and stuff used too!

Similar ro ReZ, I used to worship heroes, couldn't get enough of series 1. But (like many others I believe) I've grown weary and frustrated with it. Excited about Lost though, woo.

Lol, I watched the first series back at the time to see what the hype was about, but I never really got into it. I kept waiting for stuff to happen, but it seemed like nothing ever did! Even the series finale was an anti-climax I thought so I just left it there and didn't go back.

I actually thought Lost sounded like a really run of the mill idea when it was starting. I figured it would just be some Lord of the Flies retelling so I didn't buy into the initial hype. I caught the second episode cause someone I worked with had been talking about it and I haven't looked back since! I like the crazy sci-fi and the mystery surrounding what is going on. :hehe: I think the characters are great too, due to the flashbacks you get a feel for the people they were before the plane crash/ before they came to the island.

Plus: Jim Robinson.

[ReZourceman]

Rez, what the hell are you talking about? Plot holes aren't plot holes until its explained, then any issues with the plots can begin, you saying there are plot gaps in lost when the series hasn't finished yet is like saying when mr burns got shot "omg its a plot gap because we don't know who shot him". The point of lost is that it's a msytery, that the viewers are kept in the dark about things, when they are revealed they go OMG I GET IT NOW. If you dislike being kept in the dark then stop watching, walk away and watch (imo) the pointless gun fire in 24.

Lol. *Waits for penny to drop*

[DomJcg]

Even though you tried to justify saying that 24 is just pointless gunfire with an "imo," I'm still disappointed with you, Dom. :heh: 24 is so much more than gunfire... there are knives and stuff used too!

Plus: Jim Robinson.

Meh i never overly liked 24, it's so manly? i dunno macho, rambo style, cool for the sake of being cool :P

and rez i have no clue what your trying to imply, unless you DO know who shot mr burns ;)

[ReZourceman]

I do know who shot Mr Burns, however I didn't say LOST had plot holes, I said Heroes had plot holes. :)

[Jav_NE]

They have explained alot, i dont know why you're complaining Rez, and the rest you just have to figure out yourself until they give more clues. Thats the fun of it!

Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc.

Black Smoke - Sci-fi, cant really be explained, but i think it could be Jacob's true form.

Dead People - Jacob can use / take the form of people who died on the island, hence why Boon, Charlie etc were seen again

Polarbears - Were used to turn the wheel that 'moves' the island because whoever does so is banished, hence why Polar Bear bones were found in the desert (Ben was sent to a desert when he turned the wheel).

Black Rock - The ship in the middle of the island must have got there when the island 'moved'. Simple.

Time Travel / Moving Island - I've heard the island doesn't physically move, only through time. So the Island still exists in the same place, just not in the present.

Cant think of anything else, but there have been clues / answer to pretty much everything!

[Molly]

I like the crazy sci-fi and the mystery surrounding what is going on. :hehe: I think the characters are great too, due to the flashbacks you get a feel for the people they were before the plane crash/ before they came to the island.

Plus: Jim Robinson.

Also, Sawyer is a hottie :heh: Yeah I love the mystery, twists, elements of the ridiculous, it's a great package.

[ReZourceman]

They have explained alot, i dont know why you're complaining Rez, and the rest you just have to figure out yourself until they give more clues. Thats the fun of it!

Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc.

Black Smoke - Sci-fi, cant really be explained, but i think it could be Jacob's true form.

Dead People - Jacob can use / take the form of people who died on the island, hence why Boon, Charlie etc were seen again

Polarbears - Were used to turn the wheel that 'moves' the island because whoever does so is banished, hence why Polar Bear bones were found in the desert (Ben was sent to a desert when he turned the wheel).

Black Rock - The ship in the middle of the island must have got there when the island 'moved'. Simple.

Time Travel / Moving Island - I've heard the island doesn't physically move, only through time. So the Island still exists in the same place, just not in the present.

Cant think of anything else, but there have been clues / answer to pretty much everything!

Well this post certainly helps TBH. :) I'd never thought of any of that. (However its the little things that I can't remember that from like Seasons 1 and 2 that dont make sense, or rather that I have a problem with) maybe I'll rewatch it sometime and give specific examples. I am aware this is basically saying "I cant remember what it is I dont like about the show" but....yeah. Im pretty retarded and sexual so....like....I'll be let off.


:)
Massive lol.

[Mokong X-C]

Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc.



Because Jacks dad is also Claires dad... they are half brother and sister ;)

[darksnowman]

Also, Sawyer is a hottie :heh: Yeah I love the mystery, twists, elements of the ridiculous, it's a great package.

Sawyer... yeah but I said Jim Robinson!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/97/JimRobinsondale.jpg

aka Widmore.

[ViPeR]

Makes me wonder if Jacks dad is actually dead. Remember season 1, there was no body in the coffin. Apparently the creators said everything in the show has a scientific explanation. So that kinda takes away the paranormal aspect for me. I always thought that Jacob was trapped in time somehow. The island has probably 'moved' several times as there is an episode where Richard (the other others) meets Locke as a kid and subsequently gets pissed off at him for giving him wrong answers in some test. One thing i'd like to know more and hasn't been talked about since the early seasons. Who the fuck is behind Dharma and what was the 'incident'? It's like the creators totally forgot about them or something. Although I think my doubts maybe premature as I saw what looks like a Dharma dude in a yellow suit confront Faraday in the trailer.

[Jav_NE]

I always thought the incident was the same thing that happened to Desmond, when the button wasn't pressed and a massive electro-magnet explosion sort-of-thing happened?!

[ViPeR]

True, it probably was the same thing but i'd like to know how it happened. Perhaps that's how they discovered they needed a countdown in the first place. I'm really hoping the losties have gone back in time to the original battle between Dharma and the others. That'd be great. Even better, the losties are the others... whooa mindfuck.

[Dante]

Because You Left

Sneak Peek 3 (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/episode-502-lie-sneak-peek-2.html)

Sneak Peeks 4 and 5 (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/search/label/Because%20You%20Left)

Episode 5.02 - The Lie - Sneak Peek 1 - Extended (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/episode-502-lie-sneak-peek-1-extended.html)

Episode 5x03 - JugHead Tidbits.

* This episode is an Oceanic Six-free zone. There are no appearances by Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun or Aaron.
* The title of the episode ("Jughead") refers to a thing not a person.
* One Islander declares his love and the object of his affection seems surprisingly elated about the announcement. Guesses?
* Charles "Big Bad" Widmore pops up three times in the episode and each appearance is more surprising that the last.
* Is Desmond your hero? If yes, you will be greatly pleased with this outing of the show, in which he totally kicks ass and takes names, even while he largely fails to achieve his declared goals.
* At least two new foreign languages are used in this episode, which means more subtitle funtimes. Apologies in advance to all the dyslexics out there.
* The following is not a line from the episode, but it could be: "Did you come back for your bong?"

[ReZourceman]

Lost starts on Sunday @ 9pm double episode @ Sky One.

I was quite hoping it would be a Sunday.

[Dante]

It starts on US TV on the Wednesday 21st.


Episode 5.01 - Because You Left - Sneak Peek 2 - Extended (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/episode-501-because-you-left-sneak-peek_18.html)

[Oxigen_Waste]

So, today's the day, right?

[Dan Dare]

oui, oui.

well, really it's tomorrow for the likes of us given time differences.

very hyped. I think this is going to be spectacular.

[Bren]

Drove past some big billboards today, 2 of em, one had locke on it wit sumthin like "Lockes dead right?" and the other had Hurley "Its all in his head, isnt it?" or sumthing along those lines, cant wait for this.

I nearly crashed in excitement :P

[somme]

First two episodes were great :D I want MORE!

[Dante]

Episode 5.03 - Jughead - Promo (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/episode-503-jughead-promo.html)

[Chuck]

Just finishing up episode 2, it is not as good as 1. 1 had a faster pace of information. Locke is coming back to life! yay!

[Dan Dare]

absolutely quality. I fucking love Lost, me.

[GothicPlague]

So glad to have it back.

Faraday<3

[Chris the great]

ouch. my brain hurts. it gets more retarded every season i swear, yet i love it more.



i now have a man crush on sawyer. which is gay.

[killthenet]

I was actually kind of impressed by that first episode, it provides a premise that has a lot of depth, but it is sure to confuse the hell out of casual viewers. They've haven't stopped pandering to viewers' stupidity, but they've calmed it down a lot and more time travel makes for more entertainment, so i'm pretty happy with this new season so far.

Also, Hurley's attempt at retelling the events of his time on the island was quietly impressive.

[Serebii]

I love temporal mechanics :D

[Oxigen_Waste]

And we're off to a nice start, I'd reckon.

[dan-likes-trees]

Were good that. Losts getting pretty fucking ridiculous now though...

Before it was confusing because things hadn't been explained. Now it's just confusing because it's hard to keep track of things.

But it looks promising. Has to be said that lost is not a show to rewatch. Started on season 4 again a couple weeks back, christ it was boring.

[Dante]

both new episodes have gave me few answers.

[Gizmo]

Distinct lack of Claire in the first two episodes. Other than that good.

[Jav_NE]

Claire isn't on the cast list for alot of this season apparently. I think i read that somewhere. I think we will see her but not as much as we think.

Who knows. Looking forward to the new season tonight. Couldn't be arsed to download it, no point.

[Cubechris]

Claire isn't on the cast list for alot of this season apparently. I think i read that somewhere. I think we will see her but not as much as we think.

She ain't in this season, but she will be in 6 apparently.

[Platty]

Couldn't be arsed to download it, no point.

Watch it earlier and have the luxury of no adverts : peace:

[Dante]

Has anyone remember the first series episodes and spot the two answers?

[Jav_NE]

Haha, yeh i guess there is that. I'll probably be watching it a bit later than it airs though recorded on sky+ so i can forward the ads anyway.

[Dante]

ABC Switches Episodes!

ABC have switched Episodes 5.06 and 5.07 around in the schedule.

Episodes 5.07 - 316
Episodes 5.06 - Life and death of jeremy bentham

[Gizmo]

Wtf no Claire all season?

There goes 50% of the reason for watching. Thank god for Dan Faraday.

[Dante]

Wtf no Claire all season?

There goes 50% of the reason for watching. Thank god for Dan Faraday.

has it sawyer bumps into a Claire scene of series one and watches it happen.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Claire? She's cardboard... She's one of the worst characters! Why the hell are you even bothered?

Faraday's awesome, though.

[ReZourceman]

Hmmm. Episode 1 was pretty great. Episode 2 not so much.

I'm not a big fan of time travel in anything, but it actually seems okay in this.



Massive lol @ Neil. "Oh look a character who everyone knows the name of but has never been in it before. If he has another line it seals his death."

*Has another line*

*Dies*

[darksnowman]

Watched the first two episodes last night and well, didn't really love it. There didn't seem to be a lot happening...? Dunno, it just lacked something- maybe I just don't like seeing Jack as a washed out, hopeless character. We need to get him back to the Island and back to leadership, dammit.

[Serebii]

Hmmm. Episode 1 was pretty great. Episode 2 not so much.

I'm not a big fan of time travel in anything, but it actually seems okay in this.



Massive lol @ Neil. "Oh look a character who everyone knows the name of but has never been in it before. If he has another line it seals his death."

*Has another line*

*Dies*
To be fair, he has been referenced since Season 1 and was in one of the Lost Missing Piece episodes...

[Esequiel]

Has anyone remember the first series episodes and spot the two answers?

Please explain...

I thought it was a decent start, i like how desmond is becoming more important, hes a great character. Will be interesting to see how far back/forward in time they go. Will we see the black rock crash? Rousseau's research team arrive? The building of the 4 toed statue? :D

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I liked the start because it felt very lost-esque -- very confusing and self-referential. I disagree with what someone said about lost not being very rewatchable - I don't think it's worth rewatching season 4 when 5 hadn't started yet because you're not really watching it with any new 'answers'. I rewatched 1-3 after I finished 3 and I found it extremely rewarding to see how the focus shifts.

[darksnowman]

I liked the start because it felt very lost-esque -- very confusing and self-referential.

I thought it was funny when Juliet was telling Daniel and co about the hatch. She said about a man named Desmond who used to live in there and press a button every 108 minutes to save the world. She had a rye smile on her face and it sounded so naff... yet it was so important when he used to do it! Lol.

[Dante]

Please explain...



Locke time-jumps, and meets Ethan, an Other, and says "I'm going to be the new leader of the Others." Ethan shoots him, and then he disappears right in front of him. So Ethan runs back to camp, and for the next several years the tale is told of a man named John Locke who will come to the island and be their new leader. So it's a circle. They want Locke because Locke told them they want him.

The other is Locke lost the movement in his leg when walking with Boone to the drug plane and Locke all of a sudden had his leg give out and he couldn't walk again. The reason is because his body remember the pain from getting shoot at the same place.

[ReZourceman]

Locke time-jumps, and meets Ethan, an Other, and says "I'm going to be the new leader of the Others." Ethan shoots him, and then he disappears right in front of him. So Ethan runs back to camp, and for the next several years the tale is told of a man named John Locke who will come to the island and be their new leader. So it's a circle. They want Locke because Locke told them they want him.

The other is Locke lost the movement in his leg when walking with Boone to the drug plane and Locke all of a sudden had his leg give out and he couldn't walk again. The reason is because his body remember the pain from getting shoot at the same place.

Oooh, thats pretty clever.

[Caris]

Dante make sure you start putting things in spoiler tags, I've just seen a load of info i wish i didn't...

You done this last season too.

[Chuck]

Yeh Stephen put all your stuff in spoiler tags. People want to share their views on the latest episodes not openly see what is going to happen next.

[Dante]

Okay Matt and Rob.

[Gizmo]

Claire? She's cardboard... She's one of the worst characters! Why the hell are you even bothered?

Faraday's awesome, though.

Well, in all honesty, I'm more interested in Emilie de Ravin than in Claire.

Nice spot there on those things Dante. Pretty cool that they are explaining things from way back like that.

[dan-likes-trees]

The other is Locke lost the movement in his leg when walking with Boone to the drug plane and Locke all of a sudden had his leg give out and he couldn't walk again. The reason is because his body remember the pain from getting shoot at the same place.

Dude good call!! Didn't think of that

Also,

When the losties went looking for I think maybe Claire or summat in Season one or two (possibly following the black smoke rising from the sky) and only found a fire with footsteps all around it, that might have been from when the time jumping losties made a fire then jumped away. Or ran away. Ok that's poorly explained, my Lost knowledge has dropped in the past year or two.

[Molly]

*still haven't been able to get on the sky plus box to watch, starts shaking with frustration*

[Dante]

Dude good call!! Didn't think of that

Also,

When the losties went looking for I think maybe Claire or summat in Season one or two (possibly following the black smoke rising from the sky) and only found a fire with footsteps all around it, that might have been from when the time jumping losties made a fire then jumped away. Or ran away. Ok that's poorly explained, my Lost knowledge has dropped in the past year or two.

Wasn't Locke puzzled that he followed the 2nd footprints path which stopped when Ethan managed to kidnapped Claire?

1. Because you Left
2. The Lie
3. Jughead
4. The Little Prince
5. This Place is Death
6. 316 (swap)
7. The life and death of Jeremy Bentham (swap)
8. LeFleur
9. Namaste
10. Hes Our You
11. Whatever Happened, Happened
12. Dead is Dead

[Esequiel]

Hmmm:

I dont know if that explains it really Dante. I see where your coming from but Alpen has been looking for locke for a long time. I can see a situation where Locke meets Alpen far back in the past and thats the reason why he goes looking for young locke in the future but i dont think that the 1 meeting with Ethan would do it.

As for his leg not working right at the drug plane crash i thought that had been explained already. The island stopped his leg from working right so he didnt climb into the plane and die...

Watching back will be interesting and seeing if there is anything that links with this new time jumping element to the series. The only ones i really remember is Jacks dads body dissapearing and the 2 bodies with a white and black stone on them.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

So nobody's mentioned Jacob. Nice easy solution = Locke is Jacob, or someone is. What about Alfans Halo or whatever the fuck his name was, and his kiddy. Is the kiddie someone important? Are we going to see him again in some jumpity jump? We must do, considering we saw faraday near the construction of the hatch as wossisface walked past. N'stuff.

[Chris the great]

ep3 was pretty messed up, a couple of good twists and lots of faraday. good times.

[Dante]

Episode 5.04 - The Little Prince - Promo (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/episode-504-little-prince-promo.html)

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

ep 3! Awesomez. Five years ago, if someone had said that there would be an episode entirely devoid of Jack or Kate I would neeever have believed them, and voila!

Good tiems. So, liek, zomg it's widmore. Brilliant. Who's the blonde lady in the Others? That woman with white hair? Is that woman faraday's mother? Just how old IS alpert? :P Does anyone remember Alpert visiting Locke as a young 'un? As I think I do, but I'm not sure. What else? Urm... Dunno. But I'm finding the on-the-island stuff very interesting to watch. I wonder when they'll go to the future...

[killthenet]

Yeah, you're right, I think it was in season 4 that Alpert visited Locke. He showed him a bunch of items, one of which was the compass that Locke gave Alpert, but Locke didn't pick it up so Alpert thought he didn't have the right abilites to be a leader.

The blonde girl with the gun is called Ellie, the white haired woman is Eloise Hawking so it's almost certain they're the same people. She is most likely Faraday's mother too. There's some theories going around that Widmore is Faraday's father also, but that one is definately a wait and see.

I really like this new system though, it's a gimmick that allows them to do an awful lot of material on the history of the island without it seeming out of context.

[Gizmo]

ep 3! Awesomez. Five years ago, if someone had said that there would be an episode entirely devoid of Jack or Kate I would neeever have believed them, and voila!

Good tiems. So, liek, zomg it's widmore. Brilliant. Who's the blonde lady in the Others? That woman with white hair? Is that woman faraday's mother? Just how old IS alpert? :P Does anyone remember Alpert visiting Locke as a young 'un? As I think I do, but I'm not sure. What else? Urm... Dunno. But I'm finding the on-the-island stuff very interesting to watch. I wonder when they'll go to the future...

Dunno who blonde haired Other was, alls I know is she was damn cute. Who's the woman with white hair you are talking about?

No Jack and Kate = woot, lots and lots of Daniel = woot woot!

I wonder what happens with Widmore on the island for him to come to the conclusion that it's "his" island.

Alpert definately visits Locke as a kid. Probably went round everyone he could find called John Locke who was born around the right time. Still dunno what the "test" with the knife and stuff was all about. Also I'm betting Alpert has some connection to the island, like he's been there since the beginning or something. The Jesus to Jacob's God or something like that.

Wasn't Eloise the name of Daniels rat?

[Dante]

ep 3! Awesomez. Five years ago, if someone had said that there would be an episode entirely devoid of Jack or Kate I would neeever have believed them, and voila!

Good tiems. So, liek, zomg it's widmore. Brilliant. Who's the blonde lady in the Others? That woman with white hair? Is that woman faraday's mother? Just how old IS alpert? :P Does anyone remember Alpert visiting Locke as a young 'un? As I think I do, but I'm not sure. What else? Urm... Dunno. But I'm finding the on-the-island stuff very interesting to watch. I wonder when they'll go to the future...

Alpert visit Locke as a bady, a kid and as a teen in Cabin Fever.
I cant tell you the blonde lady is but Daniel knows who the woman is.
The white hair woman was Daniels live human subject, which Charles Widmore funded Faraday's research and financially provides for her care.

Five-year-old John is playing backgammon in a living room when his foster sister Melissa rudely knocks the pieces off the board, taunting him. His foster mother Florence scolds her before telling John that there is a man there to see him, and that he should be on his best behavior. Richard Alpert walks in the house and sits down at the table across from him. He introduces himself as Richard and tells John that he runs a school for special children and has reason to believe that John is one of them. Richard asks John if he minds if Richard shows him a couple of neat things, to which John shakes his head (indicating he does not mind). Richard notices a drawing on the wall of the room of a man lying on the ground while a mass of black springs from the ground and hangs over him, resembling an attack by the smoke monster. When asked by Richard if he drew the picture, John nods his head. The two walk to another table and sit down. Richard tells John that he wants him to look at a few objects, think about them, and tell him which of them are his. The boy thinks Richard means "to keep" but Alpert clarifies, "Which of these things belong to you already?" He lays out on the table a baseball glove, a book entitled "Book of Laws" (possibly referring to the holy text of the Bahá'Ã* faith), a small container of granules, a compass, a comic book entitled "Mystery Tales", and a knife. John immediately claims the container of the granules and inspects and claims the compass. John starts towards the "Book of Laws", at which point Richard looks hopeful. Instead, he picks up the knife, to which Richard seems disappointed and angry. He asks John if he is sure, and after he nods affirmatively, Richard snatches the knife from his hand and takes the other items away. He puts these back into his bag and stands up quickly. Florence enters the room and asks how John did. Richard responds sternly that John is not quite ready for his school and walks out of the house. Florence scolds John, asking what he did wrong, as he looks down dejectedly.

[Molly]

Finally got to watch 1&2...loves it. The mix between tension and humour was excellent. Plus, topless sawyer; won't say no to that. Faraday is also kind of sexy and awesome. *Enough perving*. Ep 3 on sunday, yeeeah.

[Dante]

Episode 5.07 will be extended for four mins. :bouncy:

Jack that must go back with Locke's body along with a special item that comes in pairs that is related to Jack's grandfather.

[ReZourceman]

I don't understand why everyone loved this episode so much?

S'alright.

Oh...but Daniel does rule though. Hes awesome. Why hes in love with the skanky British chick, I have no idea.

[Jav_NE]

Yeah, it wasn't a great episode in my opinion. Only one intriguing revelation really, the rest was all a bit slow. Still good, dont get me wrong, just not one of the "oh my god!" episodes.

[Serebii]

Do have a question for some people

Why does everyone keep wanting every episode to have "answers" to everything...I don't get it. Why can't people live with mystery? I see in other forums people bitching about an episode because it didnt provide answers and even the voice overs on sky say for some episodes "this episode provides answers but asks questions". I mean wtf

Coming from a sci-fi background, I guess I'm used to mystery but I just don't get the thinking behind it

Recently though I have been able to guess things accurately...

such as the name of Desmond's kid and I've predicted who Daniel's mother is...but then again I bet everyones come to that conclusion by now...Ms. Hawking.

I'm also guessing that she's the british other on the island in the past called Ellie, short for Eloise, the name of Daniel's rat in The Constant and apparently Ms. Hawking's name


Makes sense to me :p

[Dante]

this blog (http://www.powells.com/blog/?p=4511)is amazing on details of the episodes.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

lalala I'm not gonna read it *covers eyes*

[Sheikah]

Yeah, reading up on finding hidden things in Lost spoils the whole purpose of watching. What's the best that can happen from reading this stuff? You find out what's going to / might happen... and have it spoiled for you.

[Jav_NE]

I dont mind reading stuff about an episode i just watched, because its easy to miss things etc. Speculation discussions about what will happen can be okay too, but i try to avoid them unless its just casual conversation at work.

[killthenet]

God damn it. Just watch 5.04 "The Little Prince". Why does Lost have to be good again?

[Serebii]

God damn it. Just watch 5.04 "The Little Prince". Why does Lost have to be good again?
Whats wrong with it being good?

[ViPeR]

Best episode of the season so far and it's only the 4th! Man the ending just kicked ass.

I knew once the time travel stuff started happening they'd fit in the stuff with Rousseau. Combining that with Jin! I seriously had accepted he was dead. So glad he isn't. Maybe we'll finally find out why Rousseau turned on her team and killed them all.

[Chuck]

JIN IS ALIVE!!! WOOO! EDIT I thought the frenchies came on the island like 30-40 years ago. Why are they wearing hoodies and why do they have a new-lookin life raft

[ViPeR]

I rewatched season 1 and...

Rousseau had only been there about 16 years. I like the little nod to the transmission repeating the numbers on the French dudes walkie.

[Dan Dare]

so Rousseau's 'sickness' that she talked about? I reckon that's the time displacement hemmorages and stuff. Gotta be.

[Gizmo]

Anyone else notice how before the flash, the rowing boat had stabilisers on both sides, and after only on one?

[Dante]

Sea:
ROBERT: Mais je t'ai dit, on aurait dû jamais suivre ces maudits chiffres ! (I told you so! We never should have followed those damn numbers!)

MONTAND: Mais c'est pas ma faute, Robert. Brennan devait tenir le sonar! (It's not my fault, Robert. Brennan was in charge of the sonar!)

BRENNAN: Mais je le faisais, Montand! Je vous l'ai déja dit, les instruments ont mal fonctionné! (I was watching, Montand! I told you already, the instruments malfunctioned!)

ROUSSEAU: Un homme Ã* la mer! (Man overboard!)

(Man) Quoi? (What?)

Mais je pensais qu'on était tous lÃ*! (I thought we were all there!)

On est tous lÃ* ! Il est pas des nôtres. Alors qui est-ce? (We ARE all here! He's not one of us. So who is it?)

(Shouting in French)

Pagaie! Pagayez! Allez (Paddle! Paddle! Come on!)

"pointez la lampe de poche sur lui" (focus the light on him) "il faut tenir la lampe torche" (We have to hold the light)

"Brennan, aidez Ã* pagayer" (brennan, help paddling)

"Allez dépêchez-vous ! Nous dérivons avec le courant" (come on! hurry up! we are moving with the stream)

"Non, y'a que lui ! Pas de bateau, rien" (no.. There's only him! no boat! nothing!)

"Les vagues vont nous amener jusque sur la côte" (the waves will bring us to the coast)

"le vent ( ??) par ici" (the wind ( ??) over here)

"Oh nom de dieu Brennan ! Ta gueule !" (for godsake brennan! shut up!)

"allez, tirez-le dans le radeau" (come on, bring him in the raft) "Aide moi" (help me) "Il est lourd !" (he’s heavy)

"Tiens, il respire encore" (He's still breathing)

(speaking in French continues)

Beach:
AUTOMATED VOICE OVER RADIO: 4... 8...

MONTAND: Robert... Regarde, le signal vient de l’ile. (look, the signal comes from the island)

ROBERT: Tu peux déterminer la source ? (can you find the source ?)

AUTOMATED VOICE OVER RADIO: 15... 16...

MONTAND: Bien sûr que oui. Regarde. (yes of course, look !)

ROBERT: Tu crois qu'l'île est habitée ? (do you think the island's inhabited ?)

(both speaking french)

ROUSSEAU: Ça va ? Comment tu te sens ? (how are you ? how are you feeling ?)

JIN: No understand.

ROUSSEAU: (French accent) You speak English?

JIN: (Panting) Little.

ROUSSEAU: Are you okay?

JIN: Yes.

ROUSSEAU: How did you get here?

JIN: Boat.

Robert surement : Qui est-ce? (who is he ?)

Montand : On s’en fout qui c'est. Qu’est ce qu’il fait ici ? (I don’t care who he is. What is he doing here ?)

ROUSSEAU: Il dit qu’il est venu en bateau. (he said he came by boat)

ROBERT: (French accent) What boat?

JIN: It's gone. Sink.

ROUSSEAU: It must've been caught in the same storm as ours.

MONTAND: Who are you? How long you in the water?

JIN: I don't know.

MONTAND: How do you not know how you wound up in the middle of the ocean, hein ?

ROUSSEAU: Montand ! Laisse-le, il est en état de choc. On a de l’eau Ã* lui donner ? (leave him alone, he is shook up, do we have water for him ?)

Robert : Ouais. (yeah) (comes back with the water) Tiens. (Here)

ROUSSEAU: Merci, Robert. (thank you Robert)

()

JIN: (Exhales deeply) Thank you.

ROUSSEAU: What is your name?

JIN: Kwon Jin-su. Jin.

ROUSSEAU: Hello, Jin. I'm Danielle. Danielle Rousseau.

[somme]

Well I'm glad my favourite character is back, even though, ultimately I know what happens to her. :\ :(

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I don't see why people thought this was a better ep than e03 but hey! One thing not mentioned so far; when Faraday says to tha asian ghostwhisperer guy "you sure you've never been here before?" I thought "hmm! Maybe asian ghostwhisperer guy is the son of that doctor guy who does the initiation video thingums!"

I don't think the nosebleeds are the sickness that killed everyone, but the jin/rousseau thing is indeed interesting - she's met him (16 years later) so it's a conundrum. Thing is, surely Jin is also going to be experiencing the island time flux, so I doubt he'll be with them for too long. The indian airline water bottle is another perplexing element - the suggestion that they landed on the island relatively soon after the oceanic crew left/started jumping around in time. I think that might be crucial - we ought to hear more about that flight as the show develops; perhaps the oceanic 6 (plus Ben) will be on that flight? Was Ben just trying to get Aaron in order to convince kate to return with them to the island? And what of Sun? Is it windmore that sent her the pictures and the gun? Hum!

[killthenet]

Whats wrong with it being good?

Because it's a wholly preposterous programme and I despise the head writers (Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindleof). They think they're too good to simply write science fiction, which is a genre that they write well. They have taken on interesting influences and have come up with some very decent sci-fi concepts, but their arrogance about the programme is astounding, I wish that they would just get on with it and not faff about soaking all up the attention they can muster.

It's an interesting programme, especially when its focus is with the science fiction aspects, but it has bred a fanbase of idiots who strive to theorise about every single aspect of the show, however banal it may be, which is a culture that is wrongly encouraged by Cuse and Lindleof. They're just making people look like fools.

[Oxigen_Waste]

God damn it. Just watch 5.04 "The Little Prince". Why does Lost have to be good again?

I feel your pain!

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

I'm sorry, but the show itself isn't to blame for the fanatical crypticists that have attached themselves to it; if someone creates a platform from which a mass of people can extrapolate bonkers theories and mad-cap explanations, then surely that's to the credit of the creators/writers! It would be a dream come true if I, or you, could create something that so gripped and neutered the general public enough to spawn the wacky hypotheses that you find online.

Lost cannot be primarily labelled as a sci-fi vehicle when the mystery is what drives the fans to act as crazy as you say. Just because 'they' have said that the entire premise will be explained scientifically does not mean we have to assume that the whole focus is on the scientific aspect of the show.

People are people; they will look like fools regardless of what show they are pandering. To work around the expectations of such pedantic 'idiots' is no easy criterion, and surely your hassle is with the audience and not the writers themselves?

Personally, I think any writer/author that is convinced sticking with one mode or genre is a fewl, for there is much to explore (in our postmodern world) in teh combining and amalgamation of mediums that is interesting. Lost is one of the best things on TV currently, and if anything I would congratulate the maniacal audience, for it is they whom provide network with ample reason to fund the show -- to provide the creators with enough money to do anything and go anywhere with their creative minds.

Therhetoricblinds.

[ReZourceman]

What happened in the episode that was on Sky One last night. I only half watched it.

[darksnowman]

I don't see why people thought this was a better ep than e03 but hey! One thing not mentioned so far; when Faraday says to tha asian ghostwhisperer guy "you sure you've never been here before?" I thought "hmm! Maybe asian ghostwhisperer guy is the son of that doctor guy who does the initiation video thingums!"

I don't think the nosebleeds are the sickness that killed everyone, but the jin/rousseau thing is indeed interesting - she's met him (16 years later) so it's a conundrum. Thing is, surely Jin is also going to be experiencing the island time flux, so I doubt he'll be with them for too long. The indian airline water bottle is another perplexing element - the suggestion that they landed on the island relatively soon after the oceanic crew left/started jumping around in time. I think that might be crucial - we ought to hear more about that flight as the show develops; perhaps the oceanic 6 (plus Ben) will be on that flight? Was Ben just trying to get Aaron in order to convince kate to return with them to the island? And what of Sun? Is it windmore that sent her the pictures and the gun? Hum!

Nice idea about the "asian ghostwhisperer." I think its been hinted at though that Faraday himself has been to the Island before- Charlotte too?

I think that yeah, Sun is working for Widmore at this point. Looks like she's set to throw a spanner in the works and take off with Aaron and delay their return to the Island for the time being.

[Goron_3]

Right I ended up missing yesterdays episode on Sky 1, anyone know where i can stream it for free? Does Sky have a way of doing it on their site cos i know ABC to do for the americans. I'm going out now but if any of you know a link for me to watch it that'd be great so i can watch it when i come back!

[Chris the great]

Right I ended up missing yesterdays episode on Sky 1, anyone know where i can stream it for free? Does Sky have a way of doing it on their site cos i know ABC to do for the americans. I'm going out now but if any of you know a link for me to watch it that'd be great so i can watch it when i come back!

surfthechannel.com

[Serebii]

Right I ended up missing yesterdays episode on Sky 1, anyone know where i can stream it for free? Does Sky have a way of doing it on their site cos i know ABC to do for the americans. I'm going out now but if any of you know a link for me to watch it that'd be great so i can watch it when i come back!
Its being repeated tonight on Sky2 at 10

[Goron_3]

Its being repeated tonight on Sky2 at 10

Cheers for that, just watched it now. One thing though, who the hell is that french chick at the end, her name wasn't familiar to me at al..::shrug:

[DomJcg]

...
...

Concerned with what to say really.. :P

[Gizmo]

Danielle? She's crazy french chick who lived alone in the woods, she lead Jack and the crew to the ship on the middle of the island filled with dynamite.

What a perfectly normal sentence.

[DomJcg]

And died along with her daughter being shot by mercs who arrived on the island

much better

[Goron_3]

Danielle? She's crazy french chick who lived alone in the woods, she lead Jack and the crew to the ship on the middle of the island filled with dynamite.

What a perfectly normal sentence.

OMFG ofc! Totally forgot about her. I was thinking that Jin was in the future (well the present...i mean like, straight after the freighter blew up) but obviously he was affected by the time shift crap.

[Sheikah]

I bloody knew Jin wasn't dead. If it doesn't show someone literally being splattered to pieces or blatantly dying then they're usually still alive.

[Goron_3]

I bloody knew Jin wasn't dead. If it doesn't show someone literally being splattered to pieces or blatantly dying then they're usually still alive.

VERY true!

Also, this episode made me realise how much i LOVE Ben. here's a good example as to why:

Kate: It was YOU wasn't it ben?!
jack: No Kate it wasn't.
Ben: Erm actually jack it was. My bad.

haha what a character.

[Chris the great]

I bloody knew Jin wasn't dead. If it doesn't show someone literally being splattered to pieces or blatantly dying then they're usually still alive.

yep, as my friend aaron aways tells me "if you dont see the body go intot he ground, or litteraly blown into a million peices, dont belive they are dead.

[Mokong X-C]

I'm bloody glad Jin ain't dead, just wish they could have done the same with Charlie... I still say he could have easily fit through the broken window/porthole and swam to the surface

[not_so_tiny]

I'm bloody glad Jin ain't dead, just wish they could have done the same with Charlie... I still say he could have easily fit through the broken window/porthole and swam to the surface

But Charlie would have died another way. Desmond saving him over and over again showed that. IIRC Desmond told Charlie that Claire and Aaron would get off the island if Charlie drowned so Charlie knew what he had to do to save who was most important to him. (The fact that Claire didn't get off the island is just another puzzle). I loved Charlie but he was meant to die.

[Sheikah]

I loved Charlie but he was meant to die.

He was only 'meant' to die because the stupid story writers made it so. It was such a daft thing to do as he was one of the best characters.

[not_so_tiny]

He was only 'meant' to die because the stupid story writers made it so. It was such a daft thing to do as he was one of the best characters.

Then again this is Lost, he could turn up again, especially now with the time jumps.

[darksnowman]

Not everyone can survive. :heh: With Claire being out of it now, there is no need for Charlie anyway. Plus, he already appeared as a ghost or whatever to Hurley so he may crop up again like that, or like not so tiny says, through time travel.

[Chris the great]

charlie dying sucked, yeah. he was one of the best characters. thats reason enough to kill him. it makes a death much more meaningfull if it isnt just some random survivor, who every time they speak seal a deal with death, or some one who pops in from time to time. he was a favorite and a real loss. hence his death was hard to bear.

[Oxigen_Waste]

He was only 'meant' to die because the stupid story writers made it so. It was such a daft thing to do as he was one of the best characters.

Honestly, I never really saw anything interesting about Charlie. Plus, in my head I always link him dying with the show suddenly getting better. :heh: Seasons 2 and 3 were kinda lame...

[Serebii]

I dunno, maybe us brits like Charlie because he's an English person in an american hit tv show who isnt a massive evil person. It's unheard of :p

But on the flipside, there's Charles Widmore :p Oh look he's English, what a shock :p (yes I know Alan Dale is from New Zealand)

[Gizmo]

Why does Claire have to be dead ;-;

Then again it's ok, so long as that blonde other chick shows up again.

[Dante]

Why does Claire have to be dead ;-;

Then again it's ok, so long as that blonde other chick shows up again.

the next series which is the last series.

[Serebii]

Why does Claire have to be dead ;-;

Then again it's ok, so long as that blonde other chick shows up again.
Who says shes dead?

[not_so_tiny]

Who says shes dead?

That's what I was wondering. I didn't think she was dead, she's just missing at the moment. I'm pretty sure she'll show again.

EDIT: I've been recapping what's been happening. Claire went off with Christian Shepard Jacob in the jungle before the time jumps. She'll be back.

Also I've been thinking about past mysteries and thought about the two skeletons from the cave, Adam and Eve, and who they could be. How cool would it be if they were two of the losties?

[Chuck]

Absolutly amazing episode of Lost.

[dan-likes-trees]

Also I've been thinking about past mysteries and thought about the two skeletons from the cave, Adam and Eve, and who they could be. How cool would it be if they were two of the losties?

Almost certainly Dessy and Penny. I posted summat here ages ago about these black and white stones that are both on Penny and Dessy's table and also were seen by the skeletons

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RdsSV9C3obI/AAAAAAAABQg/8Ik9l6Afx8Y/s1600/stonesnew.jpg

Must be a clue. Im too lazy to find a picture of the skeletons though..

[ViPeR]

Finally

Awesome, is all I can say. It only took 5 seasons to get back to her back story. Finally we have an idea of what the 'sickness' was. In typical Lost fashion it always throws up more questions than answers. I thought Jacks dad wasn't actually his dad. Looks like it is.

[Dante]

Absolutly amazing episode of Lost.

Yup and easy answer for the time skips.

wheel was off it axis and it was turned very easily for John, where Ben struggled to move it.

[Mokong X-C]

Can I just say young Rousseau is f'ing hot :heh:

[Dante]

Can I just say young Rousseau is f'ing hot :heh:

http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/40fc34a5786e141d4e9e85f3a7f1c494.jpg

New eps names:
Daniel eps
Episode 5.13 - Some Like It Hoth
Episode 5.14 - The Variable

Official Lost Podcast with Damon and Carlton (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/02/official-lost-podcast-with-damon-and.html)

* They're writing the finale right now.
* The 'temple' seen in 'This Place is Death' is "not necessarily the temple" and isn't where the smoke monster lives but rather his 'Camp David'. Will they be returning to that location? - "Damn straight".
* Whatever happened to Rousseau's team under the ground with monster 'altered' them. And not for the better. But there's a question about 'who went wacky first'.
* Damon and Carlton wrote the scripts for '316' and 'The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham' simultaneously and the reason the episodes were switched will become apparent once they're seen. Darlton thought it would be 'cooler' to show the original 5.07 first. This has only happened once before in the history of the show and they challenge fans to guess when, noting that it was 'way back in season one'.
* There is some information in '316' that is better to see before 'The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham'. Carlton: "I would assume we're going to find out how Locke ended up in that coffin". Damon: "Can't wait".

Questions:
Which successful cast member of Lost would you like to see become a successful cast member of 'Dancing with the Stars'?
Jorge (Hurley)

In the episode 'Jughead', when Desmond finds Theresa, is she in the same kind of 'time trance' as Eloise the rat or Minkowski?
That's a very perceptive observation. (Also hints that Theresa will appear again)

Is resurrection 'of a sort' possible for Christian? Is he something more than an image the island is using to communicate?
In '316' someone will talk about Locke's body in relation to Christian's. The word 'proxy' might be mentioned.

[FalcoLombardi]

After Locke fell, got a compound fracture, and Christian appeared, my friend said, "Oh good! A doctor!"

Hahaha...


And about the recorded loop of the numbers:


Its apparently Hurley's voice.

http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/02/12/radio-transmission-hurley/

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Intriguing idea there, falco-who-should-post-more-often...

WOW! :P More awesomeness. As if Jack's dad is Jacob. Nutty. Do we know anything else about the temple that 'the monster' was guarding? I feel like it's obvious that eventually the oceanic 6 will all be back on the island at some point, but I just adore the way the show still makes everything so twisty and unpredictable. Faraday's mother... god, so weird. Wtf, as always -- makes me wonder who his father is.

I'm not pretending I know any answers, as always, but I just have to say this is clearly still one of the best shows on tv. Love it.

[DomJcg]

I was getting worried faraday would be charlottes dad for a minute or two there, phew, atleast the time skips should stop now? maybe :S i hope they do. they were getting more and more violent.

[Oxigen_Waste]

It's not hurley. You can hear it clearly on the 23 and the 42, it's not his voice.

I was getting worried faraday would be charlottes dad for a minute or two there, phew, atleast the time skips should stop now? maybe :S i hope they do. they were getting more and more violent.

The time skips will only stop when they all come back.

[Dante]

When Locke found the wheel at some point prior to the construction of the Orchid, Christian told him it had "slipped off its axis." The wheel appeared to be trying unsuccessfully to rotate, and a green light was pulsating intermittently from the other side which was causing the time skips.

Locke pushed on the wheel in the same direction Ben did, seeming to correct the problem and causing the entire chamber to fill with a bright light.

[GothicPlague]

If we assume the time skips have stopped won't that mean that they're all stuck in the last time that it was when the well disappeared?

[Mike]

Just seen the latest episode - another great one, much better than last week's. Good to see the return of Christian, Ms Hawking and Desmond This is getting really interesting. Can't wait 'til next week!

[Sheikah]

Did Desmond not see that woman when he tried to buy the ring? I can't remember him saying "Hey, it's you" in that episodes.

[Chuck]

No, but he gives her a 'I know you' look.

[Oxigen_Waste]

When Locke found the wheel at some point prior to the construction of the Orchid, Christian told him it had "slipped off its axis." The wheel appeared to be trying unsuccessfully to rotate, and a green light was pulsating intermittently from the other side which was causing the time skips.

Locke pushed on the wheel in the same direction Ben did, seeming to correct the problem and causing the entire chamber to fill with a bright light.


So, that pretty much means that nobody has to return, as everything's okay again, thus making no sense that Locke would still try to bring them back when they clearly do not want to go back (as is the case with Hurley and Kate). I think not... the skips will only stop when they return, and if they already stopped, they better have a good reason for wanting the others to return...

[Dante]

So, that pretty much means that nobody has to return, as everything's okay again, thus making no sense that Locke would still try to bring them back when they clearly do not want to go back (as is the case with Hurley and Kate). I think not... the skips will only stop when they return, and if they already stopped, they better have a good reason for wanting the others to return...


I know the reason that gang have to return.

Because the island has stopped moving in time and set at 70's or 80's.
The returners are known to be on the island in the 70's or 80's. It would cause break of time or something else if the gang dont return.
Ep 8 follows on after Locke turns the wheel but Ep 6 is about the gang returning to the island and being confused.

[Chris the great]

It's not hurley. You can hear it clearly on the 23 and the 42, it's not his voice.



agreed, hes got a distinctive voice, didnt sound like him at all to me.

[Oxigen_Waste]

@ Dante... Sorry, I can't read that, so I'm gonna have to go ahead and trust that you went and spoiled yourself and assume there's something else to the plot. Anywho, why would you spoil everything?? :(

[DomJcg]

Because he likes ruining plot?

[flameboy]

I've just bought the series 1 boxset...havn't watched it since it used to be on channel 4 and didn't have sky whilst at uni so didn't see the point in watching again now I have sky, gonna just work my through them at my own pace.

One of my mates said it has got a whole lot wierder but still worth watching...

[Oxigen_Waste]

I've just bought the series 1 boxset...havn't watched it since it used to be on channel 4 and didn't have sky whilst at uni so didn't see the point in watching again now I have sky, gonna just work my through them at my own pace.

One of my mates said it has got a whole lot wierder but still worth watching...

Season 1 - great tv.
Season 2 - Isn't terrible... but it's just ok.
Season 3 - Slightly worst than Season 2.
Season 4 - Ah... finally, picking up the pace again, quite the comeback!
Season 5 - So far, quite the return to form.

So, if you can plow your way through Seasons 2 and 3, you're home free up till where it's at now.

[DomJcg]

I thought the second half of season 2 wasn't as good as the first half, the first season established the characters motivations and reasons behind the actions that they have, probably why people didn't like the second so much, which presented more mysteries, the thirds second half was awesome imo, save the finale, because it answered questions and had progression, season 4 was a whole lot of awesome and i think 5 is the best yet, but tbh, i'm more interested with the on the island parts than off.

[dan-likes-trees]

I thought the second half of season 2 wasn't as good as the first half, the first season established the characters motivations and reasons behind the actions that they have, probably why people didn't like the second so much, which presented more mysteries, the thirds second half was awesome imo, save the finale, because it answered questions and had progression, season 4 was a whole lot of awesome and i think 5 is the best yet, but tbh, i'm more interested with the on the island parts than off.

Tru dat. IMO the start of season 3 was the low point of lost, the 6 episodes on the small island.

So it sorta started amazing, got gradually worse through seasons 2 and 3, then picked up and has gotten progressively better from the second half of 3 to where we are now. Awesome atm, though it remains to be seen whether Lost will hit it's usual midseason slump..

[Mike]

I didn't think the second half of season 2 was that bad. Even though they were mostly filler, I particularly liked the Hurley-centric 'Dave' episode, and the Rose and Bernard-centric SOS.

[flameboy]

Well sad to hear I might have a slog after season 2 1st half but nevermind. It's wierd watching Series 1 again as didn't realise how much I remembered from when I watched it on Channel 4, its also wierd to think I know everything is building up to finding the hatch...whereas coming into from start obviously wouldn't know this. I do remember very little the middle part of the series though so that should be good...only 4 episodes in so far.

[Tales]

I know the reason that gang have to return.

Because the island has stopped moving in time and set at 70's or 80's.
The returners are known to be on the island in the 70's or 80's. It would cause break of time or something else if the gang dont return.
Ep 8 follows on after Locke turns the wheel but Ep 6 is about the gang returning to the island and being confused.

You could have specified what episodes you were talking about. I thought it was about episode 5 :(

[Dante]

You could have specified what episodes you were talking about. I thought it was about episode 5 :(

Sorry Tales. :(

[Oxigen_Waste]

Sorry Tales. :(

By the way, and I'm asking this honestly, why the hell do you spoil it for yourself?

[Caris]

I was gonna ask that too, you seem to spoil everything for yourself games, tv etc.

[Dante]

I still enjoying it even if i know what going to happen but sometimes i dont spoil myself.

[Jav_NE]

There's a difference between spoilers and explanations i find. Finding out who dies for instance is a spoiler, but finding out why something has to happen can actually make the shows beforehand more interesting. Helps you see what you mightn't have seen.

[weeyellowbloke]

I've been watching series one again. It's weird, it seems like such a different show as it's so centred on simply surviving. Anyway I think I've spotted a possible clue, but might be complete bollocks.

We all know the "smoke monster" makes some pretty weird noises, some sounding very mechanical. In the first series some of the losties talk about it sounding very "familiar". The reason for this is that I noticed that at the end of flashbacks the screen will go blank and whatever the sound at the end of the flashback is will continue slightly. These sounds seem very close to some of those of the monster. In particular the first series episode 'walkabout' has a flashback of Locke's in which he is working as an accountant and the calculator makes a sound at the end pretty much identical to the one heard before the smoke monster makes and appearance.

[not_so_tiny]

I've been watching series one again. It's weird, it seems like such a different show as it's so centred on simply surviving. Anyway I think I've spotted a possible clue, but might be complete bollocks.

We all know the "smoke monster" makes some pretty weird noises, some sounding very mechanical. In the first series some of the losties talk about it sounding very "familiar". The reason for this is that I noticed that at the end of flashbacks the screen will go blank and whatever the sound at the end of the flashback is will continue slightly. These sounds seem very close to some of those of the monster. In particular the first series episode 'walkabout' has a flashback of Locke's in which he is working as an accountant and the calculator makes a sound at the end pretty much identical to the one heard before the smoke monster makes and appearance.

I've been thinking about the Smoke Monster a lot. I've been thinking...with the island being able to do what it does could Smokey be from the future?

[darksnowman]

I've been watching series one again. It's weird, it seems like such a different show as it's so centred on simply surviving. Anyway I think I've spotted a possible clue, but might be complete bollocks.

We all know the "smoke monster" makes some pretty weird noises, some sounding very mechanical. In the first series some of the losties talk about it sounding very "familiar". The reason for this is that I noticed that at the end of flashbacks the screen will go blank and whatever the sound at the end of the flashback is will continue slightly. These sounds seem very close to some of those of the monster. In particular the first series episode 'walkabout' has a flashback of Locke's in which he is working as an accountant and the calculator makes a sound at the end pretty much identical to the one heard before the smoke monster makes and appearance.

Sounding familiar? Afaik, part of the sound effects for it is actually a soundbite bite of something from New York. A parking meter or something...? Someone in the show might have said so already, but I'm sure the writers already have... :heh:

[david.dakota]

Lost is one of the few series' i've really kept up with, i absolutely love it. The current series on Sky One is turning out to be fantastic. Faraday has become one of my favourite characters.

[DomJcg]

Lost is one of the few series' i've really kept up with, i absolutely love it. The current series on Sky One is turning out to be fantastic. Faraday has become one of my favourite characters.

Its sad, but the reason he knew that charlotte shouldn't have come back to the island (when he told her as a kid) being because of the time fluxes jumping him into the past and him hoping it would prompt her to stay away, knowing that it wouldn't as he couldn't change time

=[

[Chuck]

Episode 1 when Faraday was at the Orchid - Charlotte says that Faraday told her to stay away as a child. More time travel I think and Faraday is likely to spend an extended period of time with the Dharma Initiative. If he does go back to tell charlotte will it make any difference? She still comes back even though shes been told not to.
In Richards group 1954 is Widmore and a lady with a rifle who takes Faraday to the bomb. He says she looks familiar. I think that is his mum/the woman at the church at the end of episode 5.

[Mike]

That's pretty much certain, considering that the 1954 girl was called Ellie, and Faraday's mum is Elouise Hawking.

[Cubechris]

Apparently the next two episodes have been switched around, order wise.

It's been done to deliver more answers to viewers sooner apparently, and it won't affect the story as one of the next two episodes can essentially stand on it's own.

[Serebii]

Apparently the next two episodes have been switched around, order wise.

It's been done to deliver more answers to viewers sooner apparently, and it won't affect the story as one of the next two episodes can essentially stand on it's own.
Its also apparently not the first time they switched episodes around...they did it in season 1

[Dante]

Lost is one of the few series' i've really kept up with, i absolutely love it. The current series on Sky One is turning out to be fantastic. Faraday has become one of my favourite characters.

Faraday is the main force of these two episodes.

Episode 5.13 - Some Like It Hoth
Episode 5.14 - The Variable

I wonder what the name of the episodes means.

[FalcoLombardi]

Hm, not too sure how to feel about the new episode today.

[Serebii]

Yeah, I liked the episode but I'm not sure I like how they wrapped up the "get back to the island" in only 6 episodes...

[killthenet]

It certainly seemed like they were on auto-pilot this week. All of the 'big reveals' as it were have been long theorised and predicted by the Lost fanbase and it all seemed like old information to me, as if they've just trawled the Internet reading theories and decided just to go with something below par that the fans came up with.

I'm filled with a sense of anxiety for the rest of series now because I don't think it will quite live up to what the first episodes of this series gave us, although next week should be an interesting one.

[Chuck]

I liked episode 6.

Llepeidis looks weird without a beard. We're not going to Guam are we. I think everyone was expecting the note to say something about Christian. I think that passanger that talked to Jack in the Airport and Hurley on the plane will have a role.

[Mike]

This episode was..bizarre.
I'm glad they're all back on the island now (with the exception of Desmond and, of course, Walt). I just don't really like how they got there - either it wasn't explained clearly because the writers knew it was a bit silly, or they're going to explain it in more detail later. I certainly hope it's the last one. Anyway, it should be interesting to get some flashbacks to find out what happened to Sayid, Ben, Kate and Hurley before take off, but I'm glad that on the whole, the story's going to be confined to the island now. I wonder how long Jin et al have been working for Dharma at this point in time - it'd be weird if it was years, and Jin was now fluent in English. :)

[DomJcg]

It was a new bus, the flash sent them back in time to like the 80s? late 70s i think...pretty odd =/ i wondered how they were gonna fix that whole 3 years into the future dealy. So i guess, anyone who goes on the island gets thrown back in time now?

[FalcoLombardi]

It was a new bus, the flash sent them back in time to like the 80s? late 70s i think...pretty odd =/ i wondered how they were gonna fix that whole 3 years into the future dealy. So i guess, anyone who goes on the island gets thrown back in time now?

It looked like the bus/van that Ben's dad drove. The same one that Hurley later fixed up.

I wonder if the 815 Survivors die during the purge.

[Dante]

Someone said who is the new guy is?

His name is listed as Caesar and he was acting like one of the proxies of 316/815.

[Sheikah]

It certainly seemed like they were on auto-pilot this week. All of the 'big reveals' as it were have been long theorised and predicted by the Lost fanbase and it all seemed like old information to me, as if they've just trawled the Internet reading theories and decided just to go with something below par that the fans came up with.


If you put enough monkeys (which Lost theorisers certainly are) on typewriters they'll eventually get the answer.

[Chuck]

I've seen a special on LOST where someone says they are shooting episode 10 and they are all in Dharma Jumpsuits and are around the houses.

[darksnowman]

I thought it was a good one tonight. I've been waiting for them to make their way back to the Island and it was nice to see Jack back in the jungle... then running and diving down the waterfall to Hurley. I'm guessing the specifics of what happened will be explained later (but if they just leave us knowing that the plane got pulled in during one of the time shifts then I can deal with that. Actually, I was thinking it would be interesting if it was only the Losties who vanished off the plane and onto the Island when the sky lit up...).

I wonder how the rest of them ended up being convinced to get on the plane. ::shrug: Widmore...?

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Lt. Daniels from The Wire! Nooo he dieeed! Ahem. Yeahp, another good episode. The widmore/linus situation has grown a bit - widmore was on the island for three decades?! Just how old is the man. Why did Ben stop locke from 'suiciding' then kill him anyway? Why was hearing hawking's name so surprising for him?

Seeing Walt again was ace. His warning that people will want to kill locke; will that be ceasar or ben leading the mob? Their plane seems to have landed on the 'second island', too. Cool to know that wossisname (the pilot) is on his way back to the island to help/be awesome. I wonder who the girl that went with him is!

And so on! Great show.

[Serebii]

I'm thinking that the woman with Frank will be Sun since she didn't appear with Jack, Kate & Hurley

[Chuck]

Really enjoyed episode 7 eventhough I already knew of a spoiler. Its just as well the spoiler was right at the beginning.

That Matthew Abbidon dies. Ben is turning into a right bastard. Didn't mind him before when he was just sinister and he has his speeches but now he 'killed' Locke and murdered Abbidon.

[Dante]

Really enjoyed episode 7 eventhough I already knew of a spoiler. Its just as well the spoiler was right at the beginning.

The reason for that is because the beginning of this episode was going to be the series opener but replace with a new opener of Pierre Chang.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Nice one. Locke is most definitely the show's strongest character. Or one of the strongest, at least.

[DomJcg]

I'm kinda just waiting for locke to be insignificent, it would be a wonderful breakdown of a person whose entire life has been leading up to this, if anything, he is creating his own significance, like telling richard to go visit him to prove who he was. I can kinda see it at times, and i think its such a good angle, when boone died and he lost it for a bit, to when jacob first appeared, you could see the worried look on his face that nothing might happen. I really want to see him become the most unimportant thing on the island just for his reaction.

Also, it seems ben flips out alittle each time he realises how important john is becoming, when he spoke to jacob ben shot him, when john said eloise hawking, ben strangled him, seemingly intent on stopping john becoming well...ben

[dan-likes-trees]

Lt. Daniels from The Wire! Nooo he dieeed! Ahem. Yeahp, another good episode. The widmore/linus situation has grown a bit - widmore was on the island for three decades?! Just how old is the man. Why did Ben stop locke from 'suiciding' then kill him anyway? Why was hearing hawking's name so surprising for him?

Seeing Walt again was ace. His warning that people will want to kill locke; will that be ceasar or ben leading the mob? Their plane seems to have landed on the 'second island', too. Cool to know that wossisname (the pilot) is on his way back to the island to help/be awesome. I wonder who the girl that went with him is!

And so on! Great show.

I guess maybe it was that all Ben needed from Locke was to find out who to go and see to get back to the island (Eloise) As opposed to him killing Locke because he knew about her or anything.

And seconded, death of Lt Daniels, as he will always be known, majorly sucked... could have been a really strong character.

Generally I can't say I was a huge fan of the episode. Don't really know where Lost is going now... if it's only heading toward a Ben Widmore war then, to be hnest, I don't really care..

[Dante]

this episode is seven and episode nine is shown in two weeks time. :sad:

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

yeah, sorry about the bad episode naming.

I don't think it will remain a ben/widmore battle. The island was around before they ever came to any sort of 'power', and there are clearly greater forces at work that empower them that we know little about. I mean, jacob cannot simply just be jack's dad, can he? That whole ghostly element is bizarre.

It's the odd little bits of Lost that I really want answers to; the skeletal couple in the first season with the alchemist stones, the 'temple' in seasons... 3-5?... The 'madness' that drove Rousseau to kill everyone (was she just crazy or were the other people with her really trying to kill her?) and, of course, more dharma initiative stuff, which I think is obviously going to be a bit more of a focus with this season, if you consider the earlier shot of faraday at the start of the season.

I do really wonder if everything will be answered. It would make for a painstakingly abstract episode for a finale to wrap everything up, so I'm sure there will be elements left out of it. I doubt we'll ever find out who was on the island first, especially with the warping, nor why it never appears in the middle of a continent (it moves through time and space, remember), or why Ben had that 'list' of 'chosen' individuals that were required (or how his lieutenants knew how to compose such a list), or why the children are so important.

Of course, maybe everything will be answered. I'm not really fussed about getting any answers just yet, but I will be in the final season. I have no doubt that there are still plenty of new questions to be posed!

[Oxigen_Waste]

My greatest question, to this day, is still about that giant stone foot.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

That is a brilliant piece I failed to mention1! Four-toed part of a clearly-massive statue... But just how could they explain it? Surely such a feat must've been created by earlier island settlers -- much earlier than the Lost anthology (which brings to question - can they travel to any point in time? why are these seemingly random occurances always within a so-called 'modern' era? Why not spaz out to a prehistoric moment?), and, of course, why only four toes? Two excellent points that need addressing. Just imagine if they never address the foot. Could make the entire show's legitimacy obsolete. The four toes is far more inexplicable than anything else.

Good rememberance (is that even a word?) there, O_W. To be honest I've always been surprised how they don't seem to know the entire island yet. How big is it, and how long could it take to investigate it all? Not primary questions, just curious ones.

[Calza]

My greatest question, to this day, is still about that giant stone foot.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8109/4toes.jpg

[Mike]

An amazing episode this week.

We've been waiting to find out how Locke ended up in that coffin for a while, and I never would have guessed that Ben killed him. Even so, I still trust Ben more than Widmore.. He seems to be just as good at manipulating the viewers as the characters on the show. ;) The only criticism I have is how some of the loose ends were tied up, such as Abbadon's story and Locke's meetings with the O6 and Walt. Hurley's scene in particular ended very abruptly. Can't wait to see what happens next week, now that they're all back on the island.

[FalcoLombardi]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8109/4toes.jpg

Wrong foot.

[Bren]

if anyones awake long enough, this place has a live US stream

http://www.justin.tv/bojab3r

Pretty decent quality n all, its currently got last weeks ep on, nxt ep in like 30 mins!

[FalcoLombardi]

One word: Egypt.

[Serebii]

One word: Egypt.
Yeah, the statue does look Anubis like from behind, then there's Paul's necklace

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

Lost's new episode

The Sawyer one. Honestly, one of my favourite episodes of Lost ever. Uh... that is all :)

[not_so_tiny]

Yeah, the statue does look Anubis like from behind, then there's Paul's necklace

Someone on another forum suggested Sekhmet, rather than Anubis, with the following additional points:

Sekhmet became identified in some later cults as a daughter of the new sun god, Ra, when his cult merged with and supplanted the worship of Horus (RA? Richard Alpert? Horace? hmm...)

Sekhmet was believed to protect the pharaoh in battle, stalking the land, and destroying the pharaoh's enemies with arrows of fire (mysterious arrow attack?)

Sekhmet also was seen as a bringer of disease as well as the provider of cures to such ills. (Ben's issues, curing Rose's cancer, healing Locke?)

http://www.1worldtours.com/Sekhmet_at_Karnak.jpg
Not super clear but it's left foot looks to have four toes.

[Dante]

http://www.getlostpodcastmedia.com/wp-content/gallery/5x08-statue/thumbs/thumbs_anubis.jpg

Examples:
Although the Greeks and Romans typically scorned Egypt's animal-headed gods as bizarre and primitive (they mockingly called Anubis the "Barker"), Anubis was sometimes associated with Sirius in the heavens, and Cerberus in Hades. In his dialogues (e.g. Republic 399e, 592a), Plato has Socrates utter, "by the dog" (kai me ton kuna), "by the dog of Egypt","by the dog, the god of the Egyptians" (Gorgias, 482b), for emphasis.

FARADAY: [Lucidly] Doesn't matter what we do. Whatever happened, happened.

SAWYER: [Sternly] Yeah, thanks anyway, Plato. I'm going over there. [To Juliet] You still got my back?

Phil and Jerry are references to Phil Lesh and Jerry Garcia of The Grateful Dead. Rosie may be a reference to the reoccurring symbol of roses in Grateful Dead songs and art. In "Ramble On Rose", the protagonist's name is Rose.

The name Grateful Dead has also been attributed to this quote :
"We now return our souls to the creator,
as we stand on the edge of eternal darkness.
Let our chant fill the void
in order that others may know.
In the land of the night
the ship of the sun
is drawn by the grateful dead."

-- Egyptian Book of the Dead

[FalcoLombardi]

I don't think the statue can be a goddess because they wore full dresses, not just skirts.