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Dog-amoto
22-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Pretty self explanatory title.

Stuff you can't stand to eat:

For me

Sweetcorn
Liquorice
Celery

Dan Dare
22-09-2008, 12:05 PM
oh joy, another list thread.

Jimbob
22-09-2008, 12:16 PM
Things i don't like

Celery
Sprouts
Eggs (all types minus chocolate ones)
Butter (can't stand it)
Parsnips
Swede
Fish (except cod, tuna and haddock)

Thats about all i can think of for now

Mundi
22-09-2008, 12:23 PM
My list

fish
stuff
something
blah
space
blabla

Jav_NE
22-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Come on guys, it doesn't have to be a list thread. Some people dislike certain foods for strange reasons, for instance i can't stand tuna because i think its a more girly choice of food, and the fact that its used more than anything else as catfood. Urgh.

I dont like the textures of some foods either. Like peaches. I'd much rather have a nectarine and avoid the hairy skin.

Dan Dare
22-09-2008, 12:34 PM
you need to try a proper tuna steak, then. It's amazing.

The Bard
22-09-2008, 12:36 PM
Yeah I hate tuna, not only does it reek like shit, it also tastes like anal discharge. Tomatoes fucking suck too, as does cheese (unless it's on Pizza) and yoghurt of any variety.

Gentleben
22-09-2008, 12:38 PM
Nuts of any kind-Can't stand em.


Mayo-The perfect way to ruin a sandwich/salad. Butter is fine and we don't always need the cheaper/healthly choice. It fact if you don't like Mayo your sandwich choice is pretty limited in shops/supermarkets unless you make your own. :(

Soup-The whole texture just feels wrong, and it's always too hot and you end up dribbling soup everywhere.

The Bard
22-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Nuts of any kind-Can't stand em.

You clearly haven't tried Dees Nuts.

Hurrah.

Jav_NE
22-09-2008, 12:41 PM
you need to try a proper tuna steak, then. It's amazing.

That's true, i would like to try a real tuna steak. Afterall, i did eat tuna in some Sushi without knowing and quite enjoyed it. I'd never eat the cheap tinned stuff though.

That reminds me, i had a Swordfish steak not so long ago with sweet chilli sauce. It was immense.

Mundi
22-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Yeah I hate tuna, not only does it reek like shit, it also tastes like anal discharge. Tomatoes fucking suck too, as does cheese (unless it's on Pizza) and yoghurt of any variety.

All of this I agree.
Mostly because i can´t eat fish (allergy) but every time I try to bite a tomato i just start gagging, their disgusting.

but not liking cheese and yogurt is just beyond me :nono:

rokhed00
22-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Pretty much all fruit and veg turns my stomach, not keen on pork either, unless it's ham, bacon, gammon or the like. Lamb tends to be a bit fatty for my tastes too.

Sheikah
22-09-2008, 01:02 PM
I really don't like parsnips...they're disgusting. Apart from that though, I like a lot of food.

nightwolf
22-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I tend to eat mostly anything (oh har har!) except certain fish, tuna and salmon are a major no from me, but I love scampi/cod etc.

Strider
22-09-2008, 01:16 PM
Cheese makes me feel sick, the smells the worst. I havn't tried it since i was a kid, although i can remember it making me heave. I like Pizzas though.

Another hate of mine would be Tomatoes and Cucumber. Well actually i don't mind cucumber, it's just tastless and boring, tomatoes are 'bleh' though.

ShadowV7
22-09-2008, 01:25 PM
I pretty much hate all vegetables, aside from that I pretty much like every other food.

Though for some reason I can only eat a certain amount of cheese before I go off it.

I like all fish aswell so far, hell, I even tried sushi on my last proper day on holiday and it turned out to be quite nice.

Dan Dare
22-09-2008, 01:26 PM
What kind of sick degenerate doesn't like tomatoes? You're all mental.

Dannyboy-the-Dane
22-09-2008, 01:27 PM
I can't stand whipped cream by itself, it tastes like nothing and gives me the urge to gag. It's great on hot chocolate, though, and I can eat it if it's in small doses with lots of cake to take away the taste of nothing.

ShadowV7
22-09-2008, 01:31 PM
What kind of sick degenerate doesn't like tomatoes? You're all mental.

I like tomatoe sauce, but that's it. They just taste bleh.

Also I don't like dried in paint. It's not a food but at one point I thought it was. Years ago I was heading up to my room and at the time, I thought there was a crisp lying on one of the stairs (hall paint had a similar color at time), so I thought i'd just eat it to get rid of it. To my surprise and disgust it was paint, it did not taste good :(

Also I don't like burnt crisps, eat one by accident once and almost threw up for a while. Bleh.

rokhed00
22-09-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't know how anybody can not like cheese.

Oxigen_Waste
22-09-2008, 01:38 PM
Tomatoes fucking suck too, as does cheese (unless it's on Pizza)


Cheese makes me feel sick, the smells the worst. I havn't tried it since i was a kid, although i can remember it making me heave. I like Pizzas though.


These two gentleman have nailed it.

I can't stand whipped cream by itself, it tastes like nothing and gives me the urge to gag. It's great on hot chocolate, though, and I can eat it if it's in small doses with lots of cake to take away the taste of nothing.

I hate whipped cream on pretty much eveything, but it's great (and I'm totally serious) when going down on them ladies.

ReZourceman
22-09-2008, 01:39 PM
I agree with the lamb fattyness, but like nice Lamb Tikka or Lamb Kebab, or expensive lamb roast is soooo nice.

I really really dont like Vinager, and all things associated, ie mayonaise, salad dressings, pickled things, and.

In fact that is pretty much the only thing I really really dont like. I used to be MEGA MEGA MEGA fussy. Like literally SOOO fussy. But now Im not.

SO FUSSY.

Shino
22-09-2008, 01:39 PM
I view people's dislikes in food with scepticism, most of the time just prefer to eat something else rather than a particular food.

I eat almost anything (that is edible...) but this thing called "esparregado" I absolutely hate.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/~castanha/images/Esparregado.jpg

ShadowV7
22-09-2008, 01:40 PM
That just looks like green turd...

Mundi
22-09-2008, 01:41 PM
That looks like something I found growing in an alleyway...
What the hell is that!

uəʌəsʎɐɾ
22-09-2008, 01:43 PM
Yeah I hate tuna, not only does it reek like shit, it also tastes like anal discharge. Tomatoes fucking suck too, as does cheese (unless it's on Pizza) and yoghurt of any variety.Ah - forget my request in the HWYD thread - I think I understand now :P

Only things I don't really like; carrots and cucumbers. Cucumbers are the worst because their taste spreads. Back in school my mum used to make my sister's sandwiches before mine, and thus ruined my DAY repeatedly.

Shino
22-09-2008, 01:44 PM
It does look like a cow threw up in the plate. I'll look for the recipe.


ESPARREGADO (SPINACH WITH OLIVE OIL AND GARLIC)


Ingredients:

2 spinach bunches (you can use frozen too, just cook them first)
6 tbsp olive oil
2 garlic cloves, chopped or sliced
1 tbsp flour
salt and pepper
milk

In a skillet, add olive oil and garlic, drop in the spinach and cook for about 2 to 3 minutes.

Next add the flour and mix well, slowly stir in milk and continue stirring until you achieve a creamy consistency. Season with salt and pepper and VOILA!

Yummy spinach side dish that everyone will love.

Yummy, indeed...

ShadowV7
22-09-2008, 01:51 PM
Can't you just over feed the Hulk and wait for him to take a dump? Might even get a hidden flavour in there :heh:

Dog-amoto
22-09-2008, 01:55 PM
My girlfriend hates mushrooms for some reason. I think they are awesome. Especially stuffed ones.

How can anyone not like a cheese and tomato sandwich with a bit of mayo? It's the sandwich made of win.

Dannyboy-the-Dane
22-09-2008, 01:56 PM
I hate whipped cream on pretty much eveything, but it's great (and I'm totally serious) when going down on them ladies.

Wow. I'm gonna have to remember this for when it becomes relevant ...

... whenever that will be ...

bluey
22-09-2008, 02:36 PM
i hate parsnips!!!

in fact i'm only dating jamba 'cause he loves the bloody things and they make a convenient bargaining chip for roast potatoes during sunday dinners. :grin:

i used to hate tomatoes... the taste, the texture... i just couldnt handle it!! made me want to throw up >_< but as i got older ("during the war....") i guess my palette changed ~ i can eat them WITH stuff... but the texture still really bothers me!! so.... gooey.

Eenuh
22-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Wow, how can you hate tomatoes? Or tuna and salmon? Or cheese?
Okay I can understand cheese (because too much makes me sick), but seriously, tuna is made of win (I'm addicted to it)! And salmon, mmmmm.


Something I hate is meat. Pretty much all kinds, heh. I just hate the texture of it and usually the taste as well. Only meat I will eat from time to time is a hamburger type or something.
I don't like cucumbers and can't stand chicory/endives. And peaches make me go blehhhh with the hair on them.

bluey
22-09-2008, 02:41 PM
tuna is made of win (I'm addicted to it)! And salmon, mmmmm.


Something I hate is meat. Pretty much all kinds, heh.
zomfg!! a contradiction!! if only i had some evidence to present!! perhaps if i look in the court record....?

*cough* QFT!! i've been LIVING on tuna salads and sandwiches for the last 6 months 'cause it's cheap and i can't cook! lol.

Strider
22-09-2008, 02:48 PM
I'll agree with all you Tuna lovers, i have it all the time. Only problem is that it costs £5.20 for 4 tins of Princes Tuna chunks :( Damn you credit crunch!

Eenuh
22-09-2008, 03:09 PM
zomfg!! a contradiction!! if only i had some evidence to present!! perhaps if i look in the court record....?

*cough* QFT!! i've been LIVING on tuna salads and sandwiches for the last 6 months 'cause it's cheap and i can't cook! lol.

But tuna is fish, not meat. =P
Just how I eat chicken as well (though rarely). Which is poultry. When I say meat I mean the flesh from mammals like cows and pigs. =)

MadDog
22-09-2008, 03:24 PM
I hate Tuna, the smell is just horrible:shakehead
I also don't like Tomatoes

rokhed00
22-09-2008, 03:28 PM
I'll agree with all you Tuna lovers, i have it all the time. Only problem is that it costs £5.20 for 4 tins of Princes Tuna chunks :( Damn you credit crunch!

Shop around, you can usually find it cheaper than that, lots of supermarkets often have it on special offer at half price or BOGOF. Personally I love the stuff, especially with cheese, cheese and tuna toasties are the business.

Gentleben
22-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Shop around, you can usually find it cheaper than that, lots of supermarkets often have it on special offer at half price or BOGOF. Personally I love the stuff, especially with cheese, cheese and tuna toasties are the business.

Even better is Tuna and Sweetcorn pizza

Supergrunch
22-09-2008, 04:35 PM
The only thing I truly despise is tuna mayonnaise... its smell, taste and texture all repulse me. Other than that, there's little I would never eat, though I'm not keen on the odd thing, including various guises of tomato.

Any of you people tried nattou? I found it alrightish, which was a bit of an anti-climax.

bluey
22-09-2008, 04:47 PM
Any of you people tried nattou? I found it alrightish, which was a bit of an anti-climax.
i want to drop-kick every single japanese person who asks me this question.
and they ALL ask me this question... it's like a default meet&greet question.

"hi, what's your name? what do you do? where do you live? ...oh in tokyo*? what line is that on?? have you tried natto? are you married yet?"

becky, teacher, kami-shakujii, yep, seibu-shinjuku line, NO!! NEVERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!, NO!!! i'm TWENTY-fucking-TWO dammit!!

...who the hell thought it'd be a good idea to bury some beans for a few days then dig it up and eat it for breakfast?! WTF?! one of my friends loves natto so much that when she went on homestay to australia and couldnt BUY it... she MADE some herself. she and her kind will be among the first to be beheaded when i become ruler of the galaxies. :blank:

...yeah. add natto to my list!
natto and parsnips, man...

*i live in tokyo and work all the way out in saitama >__> its stoopad!

Supergrunch
22-09-2008, 04:55 PM
i want to drop-kick every single japanese person who asks me this question.
and they ALL ask me this question... it's like a default meet&greet question.

"hi, what's your name? what do you do? where do you live? ...oh in tokyo*? what line is that on?? have you tried natto? are you married yet?"

becky, teacher, kami-shakujii, yep, seibu-shinjuku line, NO!! NEVERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!, NO!!! i'm TWENTY-fucking-TWO dammit!!

...who the hell thought it'd be a good idea to bury some beans for a few days then dig it up and eat it for breakfast?! WTF?! one of my friends loves natto so much that when she went on homestay to australia and couldnt BUY it... she MADE some herself. she and her kind will be among the first to be beheaded when i become ruler of the galaxies. :blank:

...yeah. add natto to my list!
natto and parsnips, man...

*i live in tokyo and work all the way out in saitama >__> its stoopad!
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/japan/natto.jpg

Yum yum...

But yeah, a half Japanese friend of mine was desperate for me to try it. Once you get past the smell and appearance, it's okay really, but not nice enough for me to go out of my way to eat it.

rokhed00
22-09-2008, 05:37 PM
Even better is Tuna and Sweetcorn pizza

Chuck some king prawns on there and then we're talking.

Mind you, most shellfish are pretty rank, prawns, scampi and lobster are the only ones I'll touch.

nightwolf
22-09-2008, 05:39 PM
i hate parsnips!!!

in fact i'm only dating jamba 'cause he loves the bloody things and they make a convenient bargaining chip for roast potatoes during sunday dinners. :grin:


Jamba has it right I think! parsnips are great at christmas, how can you not like them :shakehead

Emasher
22-09-2008, 05:41 PM
I'm sort of a picky eater. Though, not as much as some people I know.

Roostophe
22-09-2008, 05:41 PM
Mayonnaise - I don't know what this stuff is made out of, all I know is that it's rank.

Cheese - UUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHH!

A good pizza can be ruined if the taste of the cheese overpowers everything else on the pizza.

I hate cheese on its own, but I have sometimes eaten cheese on toast. Plus many cheese-flavoured crisps are alright (probably because it's not real cheese.)

I love tuna, I would eat it on its own if I fancied. :grin:

Nami
22-09-2008, 05:49 PM
I'll agree with all you Tuna lovers, i have it all the time. Only problem is that it costs £5.20 for 4 tins of Princes Tuna chunks :( Damn you credit crunch!

They were on offer in Tesco last week, might still be on :D I really don't like fish but tuna is bearable - I hate cucumber and I tried a slightly over ripe mango the other week that was so dirty, I rarely spit things out but ewwwww :shakehead

uəʌəsʎɐɾ
22-09-2008, 05:57 PM
Mayonnaise - I don't know what this stuff is made out of, all I know is that it's rank.

Eggs! ... I think.

Roostophe
22-09-2008, 05:57 PM
Eggs!

But I like eggs...what the fuck? :wtf:

Letty
22-09-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm not keen on peppers, or things with corriander or dill in them :s
I also tried some medicine once, and I actually threw up because of the taste - but I don't think it counts as a food.

And tomatoes. I don't mind them cooked, or tomato soup or ketchup, but raw ones are just so bad.

bluey
22-09-2008, 06:11 PM
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/japan/natto.jpg

Yum yum...

But yeah, a half Japanese friend of mine was desperate for me to try it. Once you get past the smell and appearance, it's okay really, but not nice enough for me to go out of my way to eat it.
i'd rather eat a ladybird O___O!!!

Jamba has it right I think! parsnips are great at christmas, how can you not like them :shakehead
see~
he gets two portions of parsnips and doesnt have to eat roast potatoes...
i get two portions of roast potatoes and i dont have to eat parsnips.
...*sigh* i'm sure you'll understand these things when you're a little older, dear.. :wink: :heh:

spirited away
22-09-2008, 06:15 PM
I despise any kind of Fish - I hate the smell and the taste.

Also: Peas. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

Tellyn
22-09-2008, 06:20 PM
I despise cheese, mostly. Mozzerella is gorgeous, cheddar is bearable, but I despise goat's cheese and stilton, strong stuff like that. The smell of it is usually enough to make me sick.

Letty
22-09-2008, 06:22 PM
I despise cheese, mostly. Mozzerella is gorgeous, cheddar is bearable, but I despise goat's cheese and stilton, strong stuff like that. The smell of it is usually enough to make me sick.

Oh god, my work makes spinach and Stilton soup sometimes, and I have to spend 8 hours holding my breath.

Worst. Smell. Ever!!

Tellyn
22-09-2008, 06:25 PM
Oh god, my work makes spinach and Stilton soup sometimes, and I have to spend 8 hours holding my breath.

Worst. Smell. Ever!!

Oh god! :shakehead I think I'd have to quit at that point! :heh:

Dannyboy-the-Dane
22-09-2008, 06:44 PM
I do like cheese, but it has to be very mild. The stronger the cheese, the less I like it.

Tuna also equals win. Especially my dad's tuna mousse. It transcends Nirvana.

uəʌəsʎɐɾ
23-09-2008, 12:37 PM
Had a ham and cheese sandwich yesterday. Fucking didn't mention they had CUCUMBER in it, did they? ARG. Took the bits out and winced and gagged as I ate it. THe taste STAINS.

Haver
23-09-2008, 12:41 PM
coleslaw

what the shit is that white stuff?

count me out

Dannyboy-the-Dane
23-09-2008, 03:50 PM
Cucumber does rob away any other taste - and so does tomato in larger doses. But I do like both. :)

Raining_again
23-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Cucumber does rob away any other taste - and so does tomato in larger doses. But I do like both. :)

I love cucumber in sandwiches. But tomato i'm afraid, turns my stomach. just the seedy mushy bit in the middle isn't very nice :/

I got put off mayo in sandwiches when I had a tuna subway with mayo that must have been off. I didnt notice at the time, but I was so so ill for weeks. The thought of it even now can make me retch. Oddly enough I still like tuna :D

Dannyboy-the-Dane
23-09-2008, 04:07 PM
I love cucumber in sandwiches. But tomato i'm afraid, turns my stomach. just the seedy mushy bit in the middle isn't very nice :/

I got put off mayo in sandwiches when I had a tuna subway with mayo that must have been off. I didnt notice at the time, but I was so so ill for weeks. The thought of it even now can make me retch. Oddly enough I still like tuna :D

I once stumbled upon a sandwich which apparently had mayonnaise in it. Great, I thought, I like mayonnaise. Little did I know it was actually mustard dressing. I didn't finish that sandwich.

And as if the sandwich gods hadn't smitten me enough already, I later got myself a nice French bread sandwich, again with delicious-looking dressing. Oh, the terror I experienced when it dawned on me that the innocent-looking dressing was in fact made from horseradish, a taste which I have since come to despise.

And thus volume 1 of "Danny's Sandwiches of Horror" comes to an end.

Raining_again
23-09-2008, 04:17 PM
I once stumbled upon a sandwich which apparently had mayonnaise in it. Great, I thought, I like mayonnaise. Little did I know it was actually mustard dressing. I didn't finish that sandwich.

And as if the sandwich gods hadn't smitten me enough already, I later got myself a nice French bread sandwich, again with delicious-looking dressing. Oh, the terror I experienced when it dawned on me that the innocent-looking dressing was in fact made from horseradish, a taste which I have since come to despise.

And thus volume 1 of "Danny's Sandwiches of Horror" comes to an end.

Yeah I've had too many experiences like that with sandwiches. This is why the only sandwiches I buy are from subway (and not the tuna ones :heh:) just because you get to choose what stuff you want on it.

Llama Juice
23-09-2008, 05:34 PM
But tuna is fish, not meat. =P
Just how I eat chicken as well (though rarely). Which is poultry. When I say meat I mean the flesh from mammals like cows and pigs. =)

.... You're just dodging around it. Meat is the flesh of a living being... no matter where the thing lives.. whether it be in the water, land, or air.

I know it's a little bit more comforting to think of them as lesser beings or such... but... You're just lieing to yourself here.

You know I <3 ya... but.... this is just... You're smarter than that.

Eenuh
23-09-2008, 06:11 PM
.... You're just dodging around it. Meat is the flesh of a living being... no matter where the thing lives.. whether it be in the water, land, or air.

I know it's a little bit more comforting to think of them as lesser beings or such... but... You're just lieing to yourself here.

You know I <3 ya... but.... this is just... You're smarter than that.

Eh, the reason I don't eat meat is -not- because it comes from living beings. They're all equal in my opinion, whether they are a mammal, fish or bird. The reason I don't eat meat is because I hate the taste, not because it's an animal. So I'm not dodging around anything really. =P
I was just trying to differentiate between the different kind of meats out there, since I don't eat one of them but do eat the others.

Llama Juice
23-09-2008, 07:43 PM
^Then call it how it is :P

As a vegetarian it is kinda a slap to the face for you to say it like you originally did.

Eenuh
23-09-2008, 07:47 PM
^Then call it how it is :P

As a vegetarian it is kinda a slap to the face for you to say it like you originally did.

Eh? I don't see what I did wrong? There's just different words for the different kinds of meat out there, and I just said I do eat some poultry and fish, but not meat. I never said one kind of animal is better or "worth more" than another kind. :wtf:

Llama Juice
23-09-2008, 08:08 PM
It bothers me when I say "I'm a vegetarian." and people respond with something like "Do you eat fish?... Or chicken?"

In which I respond "I don't eat meat."... and they still ask if I eat fish or chicken.

It's like saying that fish and poultry aren't good enough to be called meat... when "meat" is an all encompassing word.... like "vegetable" or "fruit".

It's like saying "I don't eat fruit" then grabbing an apple and claiming that it's not fruit.

Dannyboy-the-Dane
23-09-2008, 08:09 PM
Eh? I don't see what I did wrong? There's just different words for the different kinds of meat out there, and I just said I do eat some poultry and fish, but not meat. I never said one kind of animal is better or "worth more" than another kind. :wtf:

I believe the relevant question here is whether "meat" refers to all types of meat (fish, poultry etc.) or only meat from mammals.

In modern English usage, meat most often refers to animal tissue used as food, mostly skeletal muscle and associated fat, but it may also refer to organs, including lungs, livers, skin, brains, bone marrow, kidneys, and a variety of other internal organs as well as blood. The word meat is also used by the meat packing and butchering industry in a more restrictive sense—the flesh of mammalian species (pigs, cattle, etc.) raised and butchered for human consumption, to the exclusion of fish, poultry, and eggs. Eggs and seafood are rarely referred to as meat even though they consist of animal tissue. Animals that consume only, or mostly animals are called carnivores.

Llama Juice
23-09-2008, 08:22 PM
*sigh* I was hoping logic would be enough... didn't wanna have to play the dictionary game.

meat

• noun 1 the flesh of an animal as food. 2 the main substance or chief part: let’s get to the meat of the matter.

source: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/meat?view=uk

Sheikah
23-09-2008, 08:32 PM
*sigh* I was hoping logic would be enough... didn't wanna have to play the dictionary game.



source: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/meat?view=uk

Llama wins.

Eenuh
23-09-2008, 08:36 PM
It bothers me when I say "I'm a vegetarian." and people respond with something like "Do you eat fish?... Or chicken?"

In which I respond "I don't eat meat."... and they still ask if I eat fish or chicken.

It's like saying that fish and poultry aren't good enough to be called meat... when "meat" is an all encompassing word.... like "vegetable" or "fruit".

It's like saying "I don't eat fruit" then grabbing an apple and claiming that it's not fruit.

Eh, you should've said that that's what you meant. I know vegetarians don't eat any kind of meat, including fish and chicken. I'm not stupid.

I was just pointing out that I don't eat a certain kind of meat, but do eat others. -____-;

Shino
23-09-2008, 09:18 PM
For people who aren't native English speakers, meat doesn't necessarily translate to something that also includes fish. For example, in Portuguese fish and meat are two distinct things.

Supergrunch
24-09-2008, 01:43 AM
*sigh* I was hoping logic would be enough... didn't wanna have to play the dictionary game.



source: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/meat?view=uk
The meanings of words change, depending on era, dialect, and individual, so your argument is a little pointless - for a start, the word "meat" used to mean food in general, such as in:

"[a merchant] cam in to an hows and axed for mete and specyally he axyd after eggys. And the good wyf answerde that she coude speke no frenshe. And the merchaunt was angry for he also coude speke no frenshe, but wolde haue hadde egges and she vnderstode hym not."
-William Caxton

I don't imagine your definition also includes eggs, so there's no need to get worked up if people need clarification, especially when English isn't their first language.

Llama Juice
24-09-2008, 01:56 AM
The meanings of words change, depending on era, dialect, and individual, so your argument is a little pointless - for a start, the word "meat" used to mean food in general, such as in:

You're right, words do change over time, you gave an example of a rather ancient (relatively) scenario... but whatever.

My point is, is that in modern english we commonly refer to meat as just that, meat. The flesh of an animal. That's why I didn't wanna play the dictionary game.

In southern USA a lot of people refer to soda/pop as Coke.
Example:

1: Hey there, want a coke?
2: Yea, sure! I'll have a Dr. Pepper.

You and I both know that they're crazy, but to them they think it's perfectly normal, because where they live.. it is.

More often than not meat is used to refer to the flesh of an animal. I know it can also mean the "heart" of a nut, or the bulk of something... but the point is... is that when you kill an animal... and you take "food" from the animal... you are taking meat from their body. Whether it be kangaroo, salmon, parrot, dolphin, or elephant... it's still flesh... it's still meat.

Supergrunch
24-09-2008, 02:08 AM
You're right, words do change over time, you gave an example of a rather ancient (relatively) scenario... but whatever.

My point is, is that in modern english we commonly refer to meat as just that, meat. The flesh of an animal. That's why I didn't wanna play the dictionary game.

In southern USA a lot of people refer to soda/pop as Coke.
Example:

1: Hey there, want a coke?
2: Yea, sure! I'll have a Dr. Pepper.

You and I both know that they're crazy, but to them they think it's perfectly normal, because where they live.. it is.

More often than not meat is used to refer to the flesh of an animal. I know it can also mean the "heart" of a nut, or the bulk of something... but the point is... is that when you kill an animal... and you take "food" from the animal... you are taking meat from their body. Whether it be kangaroo, salmon, parrot, dolphin, or elephant... it's still flesh... it's still meat.
In your dialect sure, but that's not really the point. Given you're playing the dictionary game, I'll turn to the full OED definition:

1. a. Food, as nourishment for people and fodder for animals; esp. solid food, as opposed to drink (but see quots. c1450 and 1575). Now arch. and regional.

...

1996 R. ALLSOP Dict. Caribbean Eng. Usage 378/1 Meat, fodder (grass, vines, cane stocks, etc) for livestock or horses.

Hmm, that's a fairly recent variant use in a different dialect...

4. a. The flesh of animals used as food, esp. excluding fish and sometimes poultry, and usually in contrast to the bones and other inedible parts; {dag}a dish of this (obs.).

...

1987 Sunday Express Mag. 2 Aug. (Best of Britain Suppl.) 10/1 The Cistercian monks ate fish not meat, and had fishing rights in the River Dee.

And this example disagrees with you - as the defintion says, meat doesn't always mean fish.

So don't assume that the meaning you apply to the word is the only possible one; if you really want to be pedantic, be so about something you can prove.

Edit: I don't want people getting the idea that dictionaries dictate how you should use words - instead, they merely act as documentation for some uses. If your definitions of words are different, then go ahead and use whatever meanings seem natural, but remember that others may be doing the same.

Now on with the thread!

bluey
24-09-2008, 05:14 AM
ehhhh.... didnt mean to cause an argument... i was just wondering about the whole fish/meat thing ~ i figure if i have to kill it to stop it escaping from the plate ~ then it's meat :grin:

about cucumbers!! i never liked them until i saw "my neighbour totoro" ~haha. i saw mei eating one really happily out in the sun and it looked so nice that i wanted to try it! now i love the stuff...!! how fangirly am I?!

Coolness Bears
24-09-2008, 05:37 AM
I don't really like Cheese as I've never got into the taste... except on Pizza...

Also Mushrooms as they feel weird and slimey as they go down my throat I think I liked them when I was about 3 but I saw someone else not liking them adn so I'm told that I copied them and haven't like them since! :heh:

Llama Juice
24-09-2008, 08:04 AM
*Words*

So don't assume that the meaning you apply to the word is the only possible one; if you really want to be pedantic, be so about something you can prove.

*Words*

Did you even read my post? I said that words can have multiple definitions, and different groups of people use them differently.... hence why I didn't want to play the dictionary game.... because you could grab twenty different dictionaries and have them all say something radically different.

I could find thirty dictionaries that say my definition, but it would be entirely useless... hence me using logic rather than false "proof". My argument was that the more commonly used form of the word was to describe the flesh of an animal. Birds, fish, mammals... all of them are animals last time I checked.

The only reason why I posted the oxford link is because DannyBoy was using WIKIPEDIA as his source.... I mean... come on...

You seem to be arguing with me just for the sake of doing so, rather than actually having a reason. I'm half defending my claim as a vegetarian, because there's people out there that say they're vegetarians because they don't eat meat, then go home to some trout or chicken. It's as if those people weaken the word for the rest of us, and it happens because people like you think that it's acceptable to drop fish and poultry from the enclosure of "meat".

Eenuh
24-09-2008, 09:14 AM
I honestly don't get why you even started this argument though. I never said I was a vegetarian or that I thought mammals are somehow in a different category than other animals. If you know me then you should know I love all animals.

Like I said, I was simply stating the difference between the different kinds of meat to make it easier to understand. I don't base that difference on the importance of the animal (since they're all equal), but on the type of animal and the type of meat they have (because in my opinion there is a huuuge difference in taste and texture between fish and meat and thus belong in different categories). They are all meat, but different kinds. I don't think that's hard to understand.

Anyway, I made my point ages ago already and think this is a pointless argument (which seems to be here just for the sake of having an argument or something).



Back on topic: I've started hating potatoes. They're okay when it's mashed potatoes or in chips/crisps form, but anything else I pretty much don't like anymore. D:

rokhed00
24-09-2008, 10:17 AM
You seem to be arguing with me just for the sake of doing so

TBH seems the other way round to me.

I'm half defending my claim as a vegetarian

Why, nobody mentioned vegeterians except you.

somme
24-09-2008, 10:26 AM
I haven't eaten since 2006.

Llama Juice
24-09-2008, 11:03 AM
I honestly don't get why you even started this argument though. I never said I was a vegetarian or that I thought mammals are somehow in a different category than other animals. If you know me then you should know I love all animals.

.. You don't understand.

I guess it's just kinda a pet peeve of mine..

It'd be like... If you were talking to a christian that actually worships, and said "I'm a christian, but I don't go to church."

... I know you weren't claiming to be a vegetarian... but by saying "I don't eat meat" You're leading people to believe that you are.

Fierce_LiNk
24-09-2008, 12:42 PM
I haven't eaten since 2006.

Shit dude, you must be starving.

I agree with Coolness, the only things that taste worse than Mushrooms are death. I hate the texture, the shape, the way they look, the taste. Urrr, just get the shrooms away from mee-ee.

Also, you fools who hate cucumbers: Wasssamattawitchu?! Cucumbers are heavenly. I have been known to slice cucumbers into slices and eat platefuls of the buggers. Mmmmm. I do love my cucumbers.

And finally, this whole thing about vegetarians, meat and fish: Come on now, its all a bit pedantic over nothing, isn't it? Clearly it was just a little misunderstanding over "definitions" and what not. For example, I have always referred to "meat" as the "meat from lamb or sheep." Fish is just...fish, to me. I've never called that meat, and I never will, because I'm set in my own ways. Breakfast lunch dinner? NO! Breakfast, dinner, tea, bitches! If you refer to fish as fish, then that's cool. If you refer to fish as meat, then that's cool, too. Do you really want to send your blood pressure raising through the roof over something as daft as the categorisation of foods? :)

Edit: Just seen the edit above. Surely then you got ahead of yourself and placed her into a category that she never associated herself with?

Dan Dare
24-09-2008, 12:47 PM
mushrooms are amazing. Once again, I'm pretty sure you're all mentalists.

Fierce_LiNk
24-09-2008, 12:52 PM
mushrooms are amazing. Once again, I'm pretty sure you're all mentalists.

In the words of Manuel from Fawlty Towers, "You know Noooothing."

Mushrooms are horrible, horrible thing. I love most things on this Earth, including fluffy bunnies, waterfalls, sunsets, cucumbers, and Radiohead. But I fucking haaaaate mushrooms.

Seriously, dude, nooooo. The amount of times I've sifted through my pizza and removed the mushrooms and put them straight in the bin. Gah. :(

Supergrunch
24-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Did you even read my post? I said that words can have multiple definitions, and different groups of people use them differently.... hence why I didn't want to play the dictionary game.... because you could grab twenty different dictionaries and have them all say something radically different.

I could find thirty dictionaries that say my definition, but it would be entirely useless... hence me using logic rather than false "proof". My argument was that the more commonly used form of the word was to describe the flesh of an animal. Birds, fish, mammals... all of them are animals last time I checked.

The only reason why I posted the oxford link is because DannyBoy was using WIKIPEDIA as his source.... I mean... come on...

You seem to be arguing with me just for the sake of doing so, rather than actually having a reason. I'm half defending my claim as a vegetarian, because there's people out there that say they're vegetarians because they don't eat meat, then go home to some trout or chicken. It's as if those people weaken the word for the rest of us, and it happens because people like you think that it's acceptable to drop fish and poultry from the enclosure of "meat".
I used an expanded version of the same dictionary you quoted from, just to point out that dictionaries only give you examples of how words are used, and there are almost always going to be variants. I am arguing with you just for the sake of it, as I love this kind of thing, but ultimately I take issue with you prescribing the semantics of a word simply because the way someone uses it offends your vegetarian sensibilities. We've determined people don't always mean "fish" when they say "meat", now get over it and stop getting angry with people who don't use the language in exactly the same way as you, especially when English isn't their L1.

Regarding cucumber: this stuff is generally really nice, but occasionally can have a really bitter or acidic taste, which makes it nasty. I love mushrooms though.

Dannyboy-the-Dane
24-09-2008, 02:30 PM
The only reason why I posted the oxford link is because DannyBoy was using WIKIPEDIA as his source.... I mean... come on...

Wikipedia is in my experience more reliable than made out to be. Besides, it wasn't really relevant how "official" it was, I was just pointing out the obvious. My opinion? Llama read something that wasn't actually said into Eenuh's post (my, what a confusing sentence).

Back on topic: Cucumbers are a tasty snack, but in larger portions they tend not do very well with other foods, as they steal the taste.

Mr_Odwin
24-09-2008, 03:57 PM
I don't really understand all the hate for cheese in this thread. Maybe it's something to with taste buds maturing/dulling over time. I love Brie (just eating slabs of it on its own is nice), and a nice bit of blue cheese can go down very well given a nice cracker.

When I was a missionary I was fed by other people a lot. Some were poor, and others had just gone out of their way to make me a meal so I just ate whatever was in front of me and said it was lovely. I got over a lot of my food dislikes by just eating that way.

Now I'm only really opposed to tuna and sprouts (I just used to swallow them whole on my mission).

Raining_again
24-09-2008, 04:01 PM
I don't really understand all the hate for cheese in this thread. Maybe it's something to with taste buds maturing/dulling over time. I love Brie (just eating slabs of it on its own is nice), and a nice bit of blue cheese can go down very well given a nice cracker.

Cheese is made of win, the stronger the better :D