Beyond Good and Evil 2 [Archive]

D_prOdigy

15-05-2008, 03:16 PM

It's in pre-production, people! And yes, Mr Ancel is on board.

http://www.cubed3.com/news/10018

To clarrify, the game has not been officially green-lit by Ubisoft, and such a project is not even confirmed to be for Wii.

In fact, if recent rumours are to be believed, the developers are aiming for this game to be on 360/PS3. Clearly, it's a missed financial opportunity on Ubisoft's behalf, so if they do put the project forward, hopefully a decision will be made to bring it to Wii. (For context purposes, the original sold most on Gamecube, but then again, so did Soul Calibur II)

UPDATE: First CG trailer can be found here (http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14256841/beyond-good-evil-2/videos/bge_ubi_052808.html)

Still no official platforms confirmed, but it's rapidly being assumed that it is a classic PS3/360/PC multiformat title. If it's any consolation to concerned Wii owners, the charming art style has somewhat been lost in the generation transaction.

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/877/877250/beyond-good-evil-2-unofficial-title-20080528000139609_640w.jpg

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/877/877250/beyond-good-evil-2-unofficial-title-20080528000144905_640w.jpg

dan-likes-trees

15-05-2008, 03:33 PM

YIPEE!!!!

<3 the original... t'would be in my top 5 Games

Still, might not be for wii, guess we'll see

EDIT: why did I just say top 5 films? Evidently i was too excited by the prospect to think straight :D

tapedeck

15-05-2008, 03:36 PM

As OFFICIALY a huge BG&E fan, I have just regained conciousness.

Ren of Heavens

15-05-2008, 03:41 PM

I think Wii is most likely. Raving Rabbits did well on the system. RR2 was exclusive... They can reuse the old engine with some improvements.

Jordan

15-05-2008, 03:44 PM

BG&E was a technical masterpiece at the time of release. I hope it makes its way onto 360 and PS3...

Saying that, Ubisoft's Wii support has been strong so far, i can see a Wii release.

MoogleViper

15-05-2008, 03:49 PM

This would be good. I loved the first one.

Shino

15-05-2008, 03:50 PM

I need to play the original first.

Retro_Link

15-05-2008, 04:06 PM

Great news!!

It makes sense for a Wii release:

- The first didn't sell well, therefore the Wii's lower development costs make it the more attractive console to continue the series on [should the series continue to under-perform].
- Jade faught with a staff, which translates well to Wii-mote movements.
- Jades camera could also work via the pointer.

Zelda_Rulez

15-05-2008, 04:07 PM

I loved the first one, and have been waiting for a sequel for ages. I never expected it to happen. :D

Jamba

15-05-2008, 04:33 PM

Ancel announced at Video Games Live well over a year ago that he was pushing Ubi to let him make another one. Let's hope it makes it to Wii, I'm quite interested in where the art direction will go as well.

Deathjam

15-05-2008, 04:47 PM

CRAP! Gotta complete the first one! Damnit need to go find that savegame on my old pc.

Lens of Truth

15-05-2008, 05:00 PM

OMG!!!! This is amazing news! I was just thinking about the first one the other day and wishing for this.

Hopefully this signals the beginning of a return to form on Nintendo consoles for Ubi, and a petering-out of all Rabbids related drek.

EDIT: wait, is this not confirmed for Wii?? Fingers crossed then, as I believe the original was best recieved on the cube, despite disappointing overall sales..

DCK

15-05-2008, 05:08 PM

Yeah, he's been hinting at it for some time, good to see conformation :smile:

His going public will put some pressure on Ubi to give some more support, too. Considering the team's pretty small now might hint that their initial focus is on the Wii.

Deathborn

15-05-2008, 05:10 PM

I need to play the original first.

Same for me! Especially after all the praises I heard about it.

blender

15-05-2008, 05:16 PM

old news. we new this a year ago when ancel said it himself at a games music ochestrated live show

Owen

15-05-2008, 05:18 PM

Great news! Just recently purchased the Gamecube version to play again..so..can't wait for a sequel!

pedrocasilva

15-05-2008, 05:51 PM

Saying that, Ubisoft's Wii support has been strong so far, i can see a Wii release.*laughs at statement*

Strong? only strong with crap unfortunately. Ubisoft has been nothing more than (full of) crap with it's Wii support.

Hope it's for the Wii, if possible, exclusive, after all, the HD systems also get a lot of titles we don't get in the first place, and specially in Ubisoft's case without even getting a real compensation that is not totally secondary and half assed... It's only nice of them to let us have the best deal once in a while (since realistically they never did)... on a entry who didn't sold that much no less (and that way they can focus on it); as well as... the first flopped, so being a exclusive on a leading platform would make sense, IMO.

darksnowman

15-05-2008, 05:52 PM

I saw this thread and was like, ":nono: Who's in posting rumours and giving us false hope? Last week we had Skies of Arcadia, and this week it looks like we're back to BG&E2 speculation, sigh."

Then I entered the thread! :yay:

This better be on the Wii. Its been in preproduction for a year so that means there should be a good amount of ideas gathered for the sequel... and with Ancel at the helm, this is a guaranteed success! (slight overreaction, but those who played BG&E will understand.) This is a great excuse for me to replay the original again over the summer, via the magic of backwards compatibility on the Wii.

I almost want to be wary about BG&E2, but the original was Michel Ancel's baby, and since a sequel has been a long time coming it should mean that he's doing it on his own terms... and that it won't turn out like King Kong.

McPhee

15-05-2008, 07:26 PM

I think Wii is most likely. Raving Rabbits did well on the system. RR2 was exclusive... They can reuse the old engine with some improvements.

Damn straight! A party game like Raving Rabbids selling well on the Wii clearly means that BG&E2 will sell well on the system! The games are so similar so they'll obviously appeal to the same people :indeed:

There's not a hope in hell that this will be on the Wii. Ubisoft haven't even approved the game for development yet, once they do it'll take Ancel and his team a good few years to make the game. You're not gonna see it on the Wii. It's a next gen launch title if ever i saw one :D (bet you lot were thinking i was away to say why it'll be a 360/PS3 game instead weren't you :p)

Tales

15-05-2008, 07:27 PM

Great news. Played a lot on the original. With all the consoles having online it would be nice to see the rankings in the game rather than writing a two page code on the Internet. I think I managed to end up somewhere in 3000th place by completing the game 100% in 3 1/2 hours^^

D_prOdigy

15-05-2008, 07:29 PM

I saw this thread and was like, " Who's in posting rumours and giving us false hope? Last week we had Skies of Arcadia, and this week it looks like we're back to BG&E2 speculation, sigh."

Then I entered the thread!

Yes, I'm equally reluctant to report on pure rumours, but this one is virtually confirmed.

I've edited the original post slightly for those who are particularly skeptical, however.

pedrocasilva

15-05-2008, 07:36 PM

There's not a hope in hell that this will be on the Wii. Ubisoft haven't even approved the game for development yet, once they do it'll take Ancel and his team a good few years to make the game. You're not gonna see it on the Wii. It's a next gen launch title if ever i saw one :D (bet you lot were thinking i was away to say why it'll be a 360/PS3 game instead weren't you :p)Why if the first one wasn't even profitable? giving it years and planning it for such a thing would be madness; doing stuff on-spec with what they think will be standard, means it won't be optimized, having to port and do so afterwards... it's a load of extra work.

That... and they must know their Wii support is idiotic right now, when they've been promising Nintendo-Quality and have been delivering "who wants to be a millionary" quiz shows.

Beyond Good and Evil came out in 2003 and wasn't started in like... 1999 you know, it went smooth, at most within two years, they could very well have this title ready this gen.

Also, going by RRR2, it uses Jade Engine... Beyond Good and Evil engine (hence the name Jade)... who is so much better on games like this.

david.dakota

15-05-2008, 07:37 PM

pedrocasilva

15-05-2008, 07:42 PM

line up, fellas. I need a beating. I never played BGE. Hopefully, they'll VC the original, when they've sorted out storage problem (and confirm Gamecube titles for VC, which seems a natural progression)I very much doubt that could happen this generation. Ubisoft pulling a Prince of Persia: The Two Throne... erm... RIVAL SWORDZ LULZ, would be more likely.

McPhee

15-05-2008, 08:00 PM

Why if the first one wasn't even profitable? giving it years and planning it for such a thing would be madness; doing stuff on-spec with what they think will be standard, means it won't be optimized, having to port and do so afterwards... it's a load of extra work.

That... and they must know their Wii support is idiotic right now, when they've been promising Nintendo-Quality and have been delivering "who wants to be a millionary" quiz shows.

Beyond Good and Evil came out in 2003 and wasn't started in like... 1999 you know, it went smooth, at most within two years, they could very well have this title ready this gen.

Also, going by RRR2, it uses Jade Engine... Beyond Good and Evil engine (hence the name Jade)... who is so much better on games like this.

The game won't happen until they get Ubisoft on board. That could take a while, and they won't start production until they actually have Ubisoft's support. Assuming they get that by the end of 2008 then you're still looking at a 2011 release (possibly the tail end of 2010), by which point the next generation of consoles could well be upon us (i can certainly see the next Xbox getting released around then, possibly a HD Wii too).

Ancel has a lot to live up to with the sequel, and as a result will (hopefully) be taking his time with it. You wouldn't want another NiGHTS would you?

pedrocasilva

15-05-2008, 08:51 PM

The game won't happen until they get Ubisoft on board. That could take a while, and they won't start production until they actually have Ubisoft's support.Dude it's happening, they're developing it, even if it's in early stages and they still don't have Ubisoft's green light.

They have 10/12 people, and they're ubisoft employees; they're not doing this on their spare time you know? Ancel for one isn't doing anything else.

Thing is, they're most likely doing preliminary work and deciding upon a budget to whom Ubisoft will have the last word.Assuming they get that by the end of 2008 then you're still looking at a 2011 release (possibly the tail end of 2010), by which point the next generation of consoles could well be upon us (i can certainly see the next Xbox getting released around then, possibly a HD Wii too).So much time is unreal, he essentially said the planning stages were done and now they're in early stages... if it was to stay like that until the end of 2008... the project would be on-hold.

2010? I reckon they could have it really safely for Q4 2009, providing they used Jade Engine (and even, if they did a new engine as long as they have personell for that or use a in-house one), and like I said... developing it now, focusing on a yet unanounced generation of hardware... makes no sense, they don't know where the industry is heading and making assets on spec for that only bumps the price, a price that Ubisoft seems to want low seeing that the first one flopped.

These are simple matters, so let's look at them as such, 8th generation consoles are out of the map, at least for now.Ancel has a lot to live up to with the sequel, and as a result will (hopefully) be taking his time with it. You wouldn't want another NiGHTS would you?NiGHTS problem was a complete separate one; you almost make it sound like starting developing a title now for this current gen is bullocks. no one is talking next gen yet you know, if anything... next gen is still considered this gen considering PS2 fails to die.

Retro_Link

15-05-2008, 09:28 PM

Dude it's happening, they're developing it, even if it's in early stages and they still don't have Ubisoft's green light.

They have 10/12 people, and they're ubisoft employees; they're not doing this on their spare time you know? Ancel for one isn't doing anything else.

Thing is, they're most likely doing preliminary work and deciding upon a budget to whom Ubisoft will have the last word.So much time is unreal, he essentially said the planning stages were done and now they're in early stages... if it was to stay like that until the end of 2008... the project would be on-hold.

2010? I reckon they could have it really safely for Q4 2009, providing they used Jade Engine (and even, if they did a new engine as long as they have personell for that or use a in-house one), and like I said... developing it now, focusing on a yet unanounced generation of hardware... makes no sense, they don't know where the industry is heading and making assets on spec for that only bumps the price, a price that Ubisoft seems to want low seeing that the first one flopped.

These are simple matters, so let's look at them as such, 8th generation consoles are out of the map, at least for now.NiGHTS problem was a complete separate one; you almost make it sound like starting developing a title now for this current gen is bullocks. no one is talking next gen yet you know, if anything... next gen is still considered this gen considering PS2 fails to die.Very well put!

It makes finacial sense to put this on Wii, cheap development costs for a game that may not perform well.
And yeah, on Wii they can just re-use the same engine. I can see it being out by winter 2009.

Hero-of-Time

15-05-2008, 09:35 PM

I have never played the original but thats not the worst part. The worst part is that I have had it sitting on my shelf for well over a year and have yet to even put it in my Cube or Wii.

tapedeck

15-05-2008, 09:40 PM

I'm sure it is held in great regard in most Nintendo-fan circles. Those who have played it certainly love it (and it was perfect on the 'cube.)

I would love to see a slight graphical tweak on the wii and have a title working around the core gameplay mechanics all over again. More reporting, animal snaps and conspiracy set in Hillys would do me fine.

It would certainly be refreshing to see any title back on a familiar planet with a familiar cast but with only a 'slight' graphical tweak. It would bring consistancy to the franchise.

Who's taking bets on black borders being constantly there again?

I have never played the original but thats not the worst part. The worst part is that I have had it sitting on my shelf for well over a year and have yet to even put it in my Cube or Wii.

I too saved it. But I saved it for when I was having a bad time in my life. It was the perfect, perfect remedy.

darksnowman

15-05-2008, 09:44 PM

I have never played the original but thats not the worst part. The worst part is that I have had it sitting on my shelf for well over a year and have yet to even put it in my Cube or Wii.

You know, I will let you off because so far this year, and alot of last year things were pretty relentless with new releases. But as you well know, its worth playing. I bet if you could play it on Xbox 360 and get some achievement points it would be long since done and dusted. :heh:

Hero-of-Time

15-05-2008, 09:58 PM

You know, I will let you off because so far this year, and alot of last year things were pretty relentless with new releases. But as you well know, its worth playing. I bet if you could play it on Xbox 360 and get some achievement points it would be long since done and dusted. :heh:

You know me too well. Steve :)

Emasher

15-05-2008, 10:57 PM

I've got to find a copy of the original. Perhaps I'll peek into my local game store a few times after my exams are over.

Could this be the first decent ubi game on the wii?

Hellfire

16-05-2008, 02:11 AM

tbh I don't find BG&E all that the hype says, but it's a pretty good game.

Ren of Heavens

16-05-2008, 07:21 AM

It's for PS3/X360:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2008/05/thumb463x_jvscan.jpg

Ancel says the game - if it's ever approved by Ubisoft, that is - will be for the PS3 and 360.

Move the thread to "Other Consoles"...

pedrocasilva

16-05-2008, 07:34 AM

^ Thank you Ubisoft (not)

panmusic

16-05-2008, 08:05 AM

First PoP and now this.
I don't know why Ubisoft seems so biased against Nintendo!:(

pedrocasilva

16-05-2008, 08:19 AM

First PoP and now this.
I don't know why Ubisoft seems so biased against Nintendo!:(

Ubisoft: We'll Have "Nintendo-Like" Quality on Wii next year (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7839&Itemid=2)

Oh, Ubisoft...

Deathborn

16-05-2008, 08:46 AM

Retro_Link

16-05-2008, 11:09 AM

Bastards!!

Deathjam

16-05-2008, 01:25 PM

Never did like the french :heh:

Zelda_Rulez

16-05-2008, 02:33 PM

Well I'm getting a PS3 now anyway, so at least I'll still be able to play it. Still sucks that the Wii is left behind so often, you'd think it'd change in time.

Hellfire

16-05-2008, 02:49 PM

Have a 360 so it's not a big loss, although that scan doesn't seems very official, I don't doubt it very much. And since it's obvious Ubisoft hates Wii..

darksnowman

16-05-2008, 03:01 PM

What's the scan from? I don't want it to be official. :cry:

D_prOdigy

16-05-2008, 03:05 PM

Again, I've updated the thread to go with recent revelations, but until anything becomes more than rumour or planning, I will not have it moved to the Other Consoles board just yet.

Deathborn

16-05-2008, 03:19 PM

What's the scan from? I don't want it to be official. :cry:

I think I recognize this french videogame magazine.
I don't think it's wise to trust that. Seems like writer's assumptions to me. Even if it's true, they say the project isn't even approved so big changes can be made.

Oh and do we know when this has been published?:indeed:

ShadowV7

16-05-2008, 03:39 PM

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Bastards

Mr. Bananagrabber

16-05-2008, 03:47 PM

The original was so underrated it was overrated, rather bizarrely. Still enjoyed it and I'll be buying this, though.

Glad he's done with the sodding Rabbids.

panmusic

16-05-2008, 03:54 PM

I wonder if the best solution is to start a petition for some Ubi games to appear on Wii...

The first bunch I can think of is BG&E2,PoP and Assassin's Creed.

Yes,I am THAT desperated!

ShadowV7

16-05-2008, 03:56 PM

I wouldn't be botherd much if we actually got some good games. But we get rubbish and the PS3/360 gets this. Damn them :heh:

Good thing I didn't play the Cube game or i'd be annoyed.

Dante

28-05-2008, 06:41 PM

Beyond Good & Evil 2 Trailer (http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_7321_en.html)

Trailer screens (http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6556_en.html)

For: X360 & PS3

tapedeck

28-05-2008, 07:01 PM

Great.....No wii version :( (At least I have a PS3.)

Anyway...what's with the realism? And yeah, possibly THE worst teaser trailer ever.

Tellyn

28-05-2008, 07:15 PM

I think Ancel might be bitter over Rayman Raving Rabbids and the general shit Ubisoft have been putting out on the Wii.

pedrocasilva

28-05-2008, 07:23 PM

For: X360 & PS3Darn ubi.I think Ancel might be bitter over Rayman Raving Rabbids and the general shit Ubisoft have been putting out on the Wii.So bitter he's doing nothing to change it, and doing a game whose original version flopped for "more expensive" to develop consoles.

He's probably as guilty as Ubisoft.

panmusic

28-05-2008, 07:31 PM

Shame on Ubi!!!:(

And it's pitty that the sequel to a commercial flop won't come to the console where the first game sold better than the ps2/xbox versions combined!

Again,shame on Ubi!!!:(

pedrocasilva

28-05-2008, 07:42 PM

Shame on Ubi!!!:(

And it's pitty that the sequel to a commercial flop won't come to the console where the first game sold better than the ps2/xbox versions combined!

Again,shame on Ubi!!!:(They're idiots. simply put.

I mean... we've been making negative buzz for them for months, don't they know they actually have to deliver? don't they know the fricking white box is selling more than the other platforms?

And It's not snowboard cutted down mini games and rabbids for christs sake. Ubisoft is completly third rate.

Dante

28-05-2008, 07:56 PM

why the art change as well?
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7262/295wpc5nh8.jpg

Tellyn

28-05-2008, 08:08 PM

They're idiots. simply put.

I mean... we've been making negative buzz for them for months, don't they know they actually have to deliver? don't they know the fricking white box is selling more than the other platforms?

And It's not snowboard cutted down mini games and rabbids for christs sake. Ubisoft is completly third rate.

Exactly. The premise of a Wii version of Beyond Good and Evil 2 has been Ubisoft's only good press for more than a year (except maybe Red Steel 2, but I don't hold much hope for that). I guarantee that the 360 and PS3 versions will flop just because the game is different and not a gritty FPS. Though saying that...

why the art change as well?
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7262/295wpc5nh8.jpg

Oh dear.

dan-likes-trees

28-05-2008, 08:28 PM

Whats with all the hate? Didn't they already say it wouldn't be coming out for wii? Am I the only one whose just pleased its been officially announced?

EDIT: Oh and they should really put the original out for Xbox originals on Live... ramp up a bit of interest...

DCK

28-05-2008, 08:32 PM

I loved the trailer. Shoot me if so you wish.

Mokong X-C

28-05-2008, 08:33 PM

Holy crap, B&G2 was the only shining light UBi had in their possible future Wii releases, are they mad. Are they completely forgetting which console is performing best of the 3 at the moment. Are they forgetting that the orginal game sold best on the Gamecube and flopped on PS2 and Xbox because most of their userbase are just looking for the next rehashed yearly sports title or the next big FPS and are less likely to try new games, which is likely the same user base as the PS3 and 360. And I could imagine the motion controls for the Wii would have had many a developer giggling with ideas for B&G. So why do they continue to shaft us.

Plus the choice to go for ultra realism, WTF? I was hoping for some souped up version of the originals art style, which among many other things was what made the game such a joy to play.

Tellyn

28-05-2008, 08:35 PM

The reason for 'all the hate' is that Ubisoft could have redeemed themselves for all the crap they've been putting out on the Wii with this.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=28652

Why the hell would Ancel majorly hint at Beyond Good and Evil 2 to Nintendo Power if it's going to be a 360/PS3 title? It flopped majorly on every console last generation, and I really hope it does the same here.

A Wii release, with the same graphical style as the last game, and with proper advertising, would fare marginally better in my opinion. These games sell on Nintendo consoles, not on the others.

Coolness Bears

28-05-2008, 08:42 PM

Hmm... I'm not pleased. :/

I don't really like the new realism graphics they have made this with. The art style is one of the things I loved about the old ones. I was eager to see how they updated that teaser disappointed me.

I would have thought they'd put it on the Wii as this would have certainly restored my faith in Ubisoft but they have failed again...

It's good to see it's still being made though as the first one was genious. :)

pedrocasilva

28-05-2008, 08:43 PM

Whats with all the hate? Didn't they already say it wouldn't be coming out for wii?Heh, yeah right, like we'll hype ourselves when X360 and PS3 are confirmed and Wii isn't. And this is Ubisoft.

With luck we'll get Jade's Raving Uncle Page and Ubisoft will come out and say they're doing us a favor.

After two years of crap from them we should expect the worse, even more so when everything points to that. We just keep expecting they grow eyes or something.

Jamba

28-05-2008, 08:43 PM

Guys, cmon lets take a second to think. The first game was VERY graphical even if it was stylized and yes I also think that the change to realism is a pretty stupid. But hey, you can do realism in a stylized way, just look at GoW. But as I said, graphical. And which machine would you choose to realise a visual masterpiece? I wouldn't pick the Wii.

Personally, I wasn't getting my hopes up because I haven't seen Ancel do anything respect worthy in a while. Since AC Ubi have been giving ZBrush one massive hand job and I wouldn't expect them to make a high budget game without Normal Mapping from now on.

Pathetic effort.

Cookyman

28-05-2008, 08:44 PM

Arsebiscuits! :(

Zelda_Rulez

28-05-2008, 08:55 PM

I liked the trailer and we have only seen one environment which is a desert so I'm not judging the art direction yet. Pey'j doesn't look that bad and I really liked the planets in the background.

But aside from that I don't like the fact that the Wii is being left out yet again.

ShadowV7

28-05-2008, 09:06 PM

My humble advice to Ubisoft.

Go bankrupt :)

Mokong X-C

28-05-2008, 09:15 PM

My humble advice to Ubisoft.

Go bankrupt :)

And sell the rights to B&G to Nintendo :heh:

Tellyn

28-05-2008, 09:16 PM

Last generation, Ubisoft were okay. They put out top quality games. This time around, ever since they made that statement that they wish to topple EA as the best publisher, they've just turned to shit, whilst EA have had a hit with almost every game they've published.

With this, we'll probably see the release of a DS 'complimentary experience' entitled Pigz, the 567th installment in Ubisoft's shitty 'z' Nintendogs rip-offs franchise starring Pey'z.

Hellfire

28-05-2008, 09:19 PM

Jamba

28-05-2008, 09:25 PM

BG&E was very graphical? The style was great, but that's about it. I wasn't expecting it on the Wii, although it made much more sense sales wise, not to mention GC was the lead platform, but wtvr. Also, I kinda want to see the game, not a damn trailer!
But it's true, Ubi was one of the best last gen, now they're a pile of shit. I hope they don't screw this and Far Cry up.

Of course they will screw FarCry. Tell me a version of FC that was good when they were dev-ing it? THe original made all of the others look B-list. Don't expect anything but shovel ware.

Hellfire

28-05-2008, 09:26 PM

It looks good. LET ME HAVE HOPE DAMNIT!
lol

Jamba

28-05-2008, 09:28 PM

Just trying to cushion the blow ;) Ah well, if they stick to the mechanics then it's got a chance.

Shino

28-05-2008, 09:31 PM

As for BG&E being graphical, I remember at the time people already saying it had subpar graphics.

Dante

28-05-2008, 09:34 PM

Some Ubisoft Wii games
Driver: Parallel Lines
Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII
Far Cry: Vengeance
Monster 4x4 World Circuit
Open Season
Pawly Pets: My Animal Hospital
Prince of Persia: Rival Swords
GT Pro Series
Red Steel
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
My French Coach
My Word Coach
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2
Surf's Up
The Dog Island
Cosmic Family
Petz: Horsez 2
Petz: Dogz 2
Pippa Funnell: Ranch Rescue
Top Trumps Adventures
Who Wants to be a Millionaire
Nitrobike
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: Hard Evidence
Victorious Boxers: Revolution

pedrocasilva

28-05-2008, 09:37 PM

And sell the rights to B&G to Nintendo :heh:After asking for forgiveness and fans uniting for spanking sessions on both Yves Guillemot and Michel Ancel by turns, yes.

Wii Fit Boards allowed.

Tellyn

28-05-2008, 09:37 PM

To be fair CSI's pretty good since it's made by Telltale Games. It just suffers from a terrible, terrible framerate.

Shino

28-05-2008, 09:39 PM

Nintendo should prohibit Ubisoft from selling that shitware for the Wii, and then we'll see how long they'll last.

Jamba

28-05-2008, 09:40 PM

As for BG&E being graphical, I remember at the time people already saying it had subpar graphics.

I think you are all misunderstanding me. To achieve it's look required a fair amount of graphical power. Especially considering the draw distances at the time and as I remember, the poly could be quite high on screen at given points. But yeah, maybe I should have said "visually dependent" or something.... u get the point though right? That it was likely to go next-gen on us?

To be fair CSI's pretty good since it's made by Telltale Games. It just suffers from a terrible, terrible framerate.

And a lack of good game design and some very poor animation. But I have only seen one of their games. Was shockingly bad.

Zelda_Rulez

28-05-2008, 09:42 PM

dazzybee

28-05-2008, 10:01 PM

You know what, I really stuck up for Ubisoft, but they can fuck themseleves; their behaviour on the Wii has been nothing short of disgusting, truly. That coupled with Midway's latest comments really fuck me off. Ill get it on PS3 anyway, but I want to play it on the Wii, with the Wiimote.

Really pisses me off when publishers shit all over the Wii, use it to make them money and constantly supply it with shit whilst puting all their efforts on the "next-gen" machines!!! Fuck em

Dante

28-05-2008, 10:07 PM

even ubisoft give crap to the nds as well.

Imagine: Rock Star
My Fashion Studio
Imagine: Teacher
Imagine: Girl Band

panmusic

28-05-2008, 10:12 PM

For one more time,it is proven that publisher's atittude is pathetic towards Wii.

But,I would blame Nintendo also.
It's Nintendo that allows all this shovelware from Ubisoft and other 3d parties on the Wii.

If Reggie has the guts he must call Ubi and demand PoP,BG&E2 and high profie titles for Wii in order to give permission for their pathetic shovelware.

I really miss Yamauchi nowadays.Anyone remember how he pressured Square for FF:CC for Gamecube?That's the spirit.

Publishers think that Wii owners are morons.No matter what crap they release,we'll keep buying it and our money will give them the profits to develop high profile games for the other consoles!

Shame!:(

tapedeck

28-05-2008, 10:18 PM

There are riots going off online right now. The GoNintendo responses are awesome. Ubi have done something stupid, and that's NOT given Wii owners anything of note past day one.

After the commercial success of Red Steel and the first RRR you would think they would see the Wii as a viable business model. Obviously they are numb when it comes to making shrewd business decisions.

They will spend a good 1-2yrs making BG&E2 - primarily establishing it as HD and fantasmagorical in the gfx department. Yet they could have had it up and running on wii already and working on the input mechanics. AND having it to A) an established fanbase and B) An action (or "game") starved demographic. Fools. Utter fools.

And anyone who thinks the character design on Pey'j looks good needs glasses...He looks stupid and in one fell swoop the character loses all suspension of disbelief due to the graphics making him look "too" human.

Major meh-age.

And to think they tried to buy us off with promises of "Nintendo-like quality."
They must be living in a different world to everyone else!

Mokong X-C

28-05-2008, 10:53 PM

Nintendo should prohibit Ubisoft from selling that shitware for the Wii, and then we'll see how long they'll last.

This is so bloody true. They shovel out sub-sub-sub-sub par games that somehow make them money thanks to the Wii's low dev costs and large casual and gullible younger gamers.....or clueless parents/family who think "oh look a game about "horses" would be great for little Johnny/Jane.

They take the money they (somehow) make off their Wii/DS games to fund projects on PS3 and 360. Nintendo should not stand for this and should refuse to license their games so why the hell don't they

Colin

28-05-2008, 11:04 PM

Where's everyone getting this 'BG&E sold best on GC'?

It sold like shit on everything, difference is that it has now become a cult classic...........and that audience has moved on and is now split between the 360 and PS3.

Makes no sense at all to put this on the Wii.

Nintendo should not stand for this and should refuse to license their games so why the hell don't they
Because Nintendo make a 'fuck ton' of money from licensing fees and for every cartridge sold (in the DS's case).

darksnowman

28-05-2008, 11:13 PM

Not on Wii? :(

What makes me even sadder is that in the past few days they've announced games like Rabbids 3 (I like the Rabbids... but maybe they should expand them into a new genre...?), that Snowboarding game which doesn't look amazing- even in terms of what the Wii is capable of, and that Babiez game or wtvr it is. Veeediots!

pedrocasilva

28-05-2008, 11:15 PM

It sold like shit on everything, difference is that it has now become a cult classic...........and that audience has moved on and is now split between the 360 and PS3.

Makes no sense at all to put this on the Wii.I bet the game will flop or sell average on those, and I'd bet it would sell better on the Wii, if anything due to broader userbase, and starved userbase. Oh, and due to being a Zelda clone; this appeals to them.

As for "those hardcores" who own multiplatform, chances are they own a Wii too.

Makes all the sense on the Wii, as a load of games do; problem is that developers are stupid, Ubisoft in particular.

Iun

28-05-2008, 11:51 PM

This is crazy. Why make games for the PS3 at all, let alone make a game that is naturally only going to hit a small percentage of the installed userbase.

The Xbox 360 I can understand as it is the right sort of platform for the more hardcore titles, but to leave the Wii out is utter brainlessness. Maybe it's not as powerful, but it is the current world-leader.

Ashley

29-05-2008, 01:12 AM

even ubisoft give crap to the nds as well.

Imagine: Rock Star
My Fashion Studio
Imagine: Teacher
Imagine: Girl Band

Wow.

Ubisoft are quite sexist :/

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 01:47 AM

Where's everyone getting this 'BG&E sold best on GC'?

It sold like shit on everything, difference is that it has now become a cult classic...........and that audience has moved on and is now split between the 360 and PS3.

Makes no sense at all to put this on the Wii.

Because Nintendo make a 'fuck ton' of money from licensing fees and for every cartridge sold (in the DS's case).

That's bull and you know it, with the numbers Wii has, the audience most likly has a Wii along a ps3/360. It didn't sell best on GC that's true, but it was the lead platform for development.

mcj metroid

29-05-2008, 02:24 AM

........ugh the french again.

Mike

29-05-2008, 07:11 AM

Imagine: Teacher

Wow, I have a dream job.

Athriller

29-05-2008, 09:05 AM

Hey, this game looks pretty cool. Hey, it's also not held back by the wiis limitations. I'll drink to that.

D_prOdigy

29-05-2008, 09:16 AM

Well the rather iffy art direction that this iteration is taking is a worrying sign of Ubisoft's lack of faith in the charm of the original. I guess it does make sense that they want this one to sell, but I still don't see why they don't at least put the game on the console that has the widest user base, and that's Wii.

S.C.G

29-05-2008, 09:16 AM

When the original came out it was first on PS2 and Xbox, it was later ported to the GC as it didn't sell to well and they obviously wanted to recoup development costs.

It then sold more on the GC due to a lack of anything else that was third party and decent at the time, the thing is all three consoles of this generations were close in technical capabilities.

This generation, they are not, so Ubisoft are just doing the same thing as what they did with the first and thats releasing it on all platforms that can run it, the Wii quite simply can't.

Regardless of where the fanbase of the original is Ubi are still gonna only release it on PS3 / 360 but it doesn't matter so much as a large proportion of gamers who only owned a GC in the previous generation or that played the GC as their platform as choice over the others now own either a 360 or a PS3 or both.

Why? because quite simply you need either two or all consoles if you want to be able to play all of the decent games, a sad fact but also a true one.

The Wii may have amazing first party games but they are too few and far between and so people want to play the other big exclusives on the other platforms too.

The bottom line? if people really want to play BG&E2 that badly they will allready have the console to play it on, those that either aren't that bothered or who refuse to swallow their "pride" will soley own a Wii and no other console of this generation.

It's your choice, make it... but all I know is that I'll be playing the sequel to one of the best games of the last generation, on a console thats not Nintendo and it doesn't bother me one bit.

I bought a Wii for Nintendo games, there currently isn't much in terms of retail games from them on the horizon and I refuse to play nothing while I wait as thats completely nonsensical.

Colin

29-05-2008, 09:18 AM

That's bull and you know it, with the numbers Wii has, the audience most likly has a Wii along a ps3/360. It didn't sell best on GC that's true, but it was the lead platform for development.
Some of you lot seriously need to wake up. No one bought No More Heroes.......it bombed, and you're wanting a game like this exclusive to the Wii and thinking it'll sell better than on 360/PS3 combined.

Ubi's done their numbers, and they of course know what's best.

Edit - The post above. So true.

D_prOdigy

29-05-2008, 09:20 AM

Some of you lot seriously need to wake up. No one bought No More Heroes.......it bombed, and you're wanting a game like this exclusive to the Wii and thinking it'll sell better than on 360/PS3 combined.

Ubi's done their numbers, and they of course know what's best.

Not entirely true. It may have failed utterly in Japan, but worldwide, figures have passed 300,000. Rising Star (publishers of the game in Europe) stated that they were "weeping with joy" at it's success.

Colin

29-05-2008, 09:33 AM

Not entirely true. It may have failed utterly in Japan, but worldwide, figures have passed 300,000. Rising Star (publishers of the game in Europe) stated that they were "weeping with joy" at it's success.
Considering how big Rising Star are, then it's no surprise that they were overjoyed. That game had loads going for it, and a lot of the core Wii audience were going to buy it..............but 300,000 worldwide - don't think much else needs to be said really.

The 300,000 that NMH sold worldwide won't exactly attract Ubi to release a game that's making a comeback on the Wii........and one that did sell poorly in the first place.

pedrocasilva

29-05-2008, 11:14 AM

NMH sold at a better ratio than Killer 7 did and is Suda's51 best selling game. Are we talking about the same thing? NMH is great and I wish it would have sold through the roof and all that... but is it a masses game? not really or at least it didn't reach them.

Anyone who expected that and now is going after the platform is pretty... well, delusional.

As for Ubisoft... NMH sold pretty well in US considering they didn't even do advertising for it.

Ubisoft has no excuses; neither for not investing (their launch FPS's/adult games/crappy ports with waggle sold like mad) neither to spit on us, they're just third rate bastards.

Noku

29-05-2008, 12:13 PM

When the original came out it was first on PS2 and Xbox, it was later ported to the GC as it didn't sell to well and they obviously wanted to recoup development costs.

It then sold more on the GC due to a lack of anything else that was third party and decent at the time, the thing is all three consoles of this generations were close in technical capabilities.

This generation, they are not, so Ubisoft are just doing the same thing as what they did with the first and thats releasing it on all platforms that can run it, the Wii quite simply can't.

Uhm... Are you suggesting the PS2 was more powerful than the GC? Because if I'm not mistaken, that's the reasoning behind your logic. Moreover, I think Pedro will be more than happy (and a bit annoyed perhaps) to present you the factsheets of both the xbox and the GC, which are more or less matched overall.

I don't think there's any logic behind this move of Ubi's.
They released the original first on the weakest and the - arguably - strongest hardware, then later on the other strongest. This gen, the Wii's the weakest of the three, and gets shafted.
On top of that, the probable motive behind releasing it on the PS2 back then, despite its hardware inferiority, was that it was the market leader. Nowadays, that honour belongs to the Wii, and people can shit all they want about user demographics, but if promoted correctly this would sell craploads more than on either other "true" next-gen systems.

Third party support-wise, things are more or less the same with the Wii now, so that's yet another argument for it to sell better on the Wii ;)

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 12:16 PM

Colin you're the one who needs to wake up, what you're saying shows a complete lack of understanding of the market. Games don't need to sell millions to sell well, NMH is Suda's best selling game, it was a niche game and a small investment, it sold more than expected, specially in the US and with no advertising like Pedro said. If you're saying NMH bombed and Rising Star were only happy because they're small, so it still bombed, the same can be sad about Ubi's games, they cost 5$ to make, but they need to sell 5 millions or they'll bomb? Also let's not lump developers and publishers together.
Anyway, I wasn't expecting this on the Wii, try to read, it's perfectly normal they'd do this on 360/PS3, but it wouldn't be misplaced on the Wii either, because the argument that the people who had a gc now only have ps3/360 is bull as they most likely have a Wii too and are always complaining that want games like this on Wii. Also, SCG, I'm not 100% sure, but I think GC was the lead development platform, not the other way around

Noku fact sheets alone won't do much, different architectures can't be compared just by looking at specs like that :P

Colin

29-05-2008, 12:20 PM

Don't think I'll bother saying much more, but I do echo SGC's post from before which really did sum it up.

Noku

29-05-2008, 12:23 PM

Noku fact sheets alone won't do much, different architectures can't be compared just by looking at specs like that :P

Okay okay, so I meant something in the sense of "perceived output potential," big whoop, wanna fight about it? :D

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 12:23 PM

Again, learn to read, no one's saying that logic is wrong.

Okay okay, so I meant something in the sense of "perceived output potential," big whoop, wanna fight about it? :D

Nah, it's OK, we'll fight another day.

It rhymes!

Shino

29-05-2008, 12:24 PM

I love the No More Heroes argument, NOTHING Suda51 makes should be used as benchmark.

And what was the last hardcore game that sold well on the other consoles? GTA4 would sell no matter the console, so besides that one? Haze, another Ubisoft hyped game bombed.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Serious-fucking-ly.

Colin

29-05-2008, 12:30 PM

I love the No More Heroes argument, NOTHING Suda51 makes should be used as benchmark.
I should of used Metroid Prime Corruption then.

And what was the last hardcore game that sold well on the other consoles? GTA4 would sell no matter the console, so besides that one? Haze, another Ubisoft hyped game bombed.
There's plenty of software that's selling well on the other consoles, you'd be a fool to even bother to question that. And Haze charted damn high for its first week considering it's only on one format currently.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Serious-fucking-ly.
Vgcharts........lol.

Shino

29-05-2008, 12:43 PM

I should of used Metroid Prime Corruption then.

Metroid is a shame indeed, but it didn't sold bad, just not what it deserved. I'm sure they still managed to profit.

There's plenty of software that's selling well on the other consoles, you'd be a fool to even bother to question that. And Haze charted damn high for its first week considering it's only on one format currently.

Contrary to most people here, I have no problem in changing my opinion if you prove me wrong. So if you answer that, instead of dismissing, maybe this could be a normal discussion. And if games must be ported between consoles for it to sell, then there's something wrong (I'm talking about Haze).

Vgcharts........lol.

lol, any better place? You choose. But its not like you'll see many 360/PS3 popping up the charts.

pedrocasilva

29-05-2008, 01:06 PM

Metroid is a shame indeed, but it didn't sold bad, just not what it deserved. I'm sure they still managed to profit.Sold faster than Metroid Prime 1 and 2... without advertising. it only sold more than 1.4 millions already.

Yes could have sold more, but... bad? lost oportunity, perhaps; but they'd be stupid to launch their "good" wii games and not advertise them (oh wait, third party's do that)

You're blaming Nintendo for not advertising and still selling as a reason for third party's not to invest on the platform. makes absolutely no sense. There's a freaking market here.There's plenty of software that's selling well on the other consoles, you'd be a fool to even bother to question that. And Haze charted damn high for its first week considering it's only on one format currently.Just like with Red Steel on the Wii at launch (and due to hype more than being a good game). Oh wait, wii can't sell games.

Haze sold because it was exclusive and overhyped. Perhaps could have sold more on the Wii, who knows.

MoogleViper

29-05-2008, 01:13 PM

I think it looks good.

To be honest I'm pretty sick of the wii. Games that have been out for months are still full price. M&S at the olympics is still full price.

Colin

29-05-2008, 01:18 PM

Metroid is a shame indeed, but it didn't sold bad, just not what it deserved. I'm sure they still managed to profit.

Contrary to most people here, I have no problem in changing my opinion if you prove me wrong. So if you answer that, instead of dismissing, maybe this could be a normal discussion. And if games must be ported between consoles for it to sell, then there's something wrong (I'm talking about Haze).

I agree, was a total shame it didn't sell better, especially when the controls were pretty much nailed perfectly.

And the Haze issue is true. It'll most likely drop off the charts in a few weeks, but nowadays to chart so high in your first week is deemed a success (especially up there with GTA), but it would of indeed been interesting to see how that certain title charted with releases on other formats also.

Annnnnyway, Beyond Good & Evil 2.

McPhee

29-05-2008, 01:19 PM

Oh look, the "experts" have all come out to play again. This board is really, really lame these days.

Ubisoft obviously think they can sell BG&E2 on 360 and PS3, either that or Ancel just wanted to make use of the extra visual power of those 2 consoles. Don't forget, the 360 and PS3 have an install base of almost 30 Million between them world-wide so it's not like they are actually lacking people to sell this game to.

As for the game, it looks stunning! Really, really good. If the whole game looks like that it could well be one of the best looking of this generation!

pedrocasilva

29-05-2008, 01:19 PM

Uhm... Are you suggesting the PS2 was more powerful than the GC? Because if I'm not mistaken, that's the reasoning behind your logic. Moreover, I think Pedro will be more than happy (and a bit annoyed perhaps) to present you the factsheets of both the xbox and the GC, which are more or less matched overall.I think he was saying the GC had crap third party support, more than being "less powerful".

Point is not that the GC had crap third party support though, point is how third party's insult to give us crap even when we're leading.

Seriously, we can't win; if we win in sales they start with bullcrap like "it's not about userbase it's about attach rate" but our attach rate is already better than PS3 and in line with what X360 had at this time of it's lifecycle... In short, we get the lesser deal and get blamed for it not selling if it bombs (BABIEZ; CRAP SNOW GAMES WITH WORSE GRAPHICS THAN WII FIT BOARD MINIGAMES) and if it sells? Raving Rabbids 3, spin-off sequels hurray.I don't think there's any logic behind this move of Ubi's.
They released the original first on the weakest and the - arguably - strongest hardware, then later on the other strongest. This gen, the Wii's the weakest of the three, and gets shafted.Precisely. I have no hopes regarding western developers already though, I mean... look at DS, US developers (other than the we're multiplatform company's like EA who'll even do n-gage games) shitted all over it and now it's a monster and they're out of it, or with lesser efforts who get low review scores.

Wii... I'm expecting the same, I wish it would go the way of the DS though, it didn't win western developers because they're too stupid (realistically even PS2 didn't win them completely as some were being too fricking stubborn on the Xbox 1)... But I hope to see a market swift of the japanese market still, that's all that really matters to me anyway... and hell, DS had like 3 rpg's mostly crap on their first year, now we have new RPG's with effort every week.

I want that on the Wii. Ubisoft? they can go f*ck themselves.I think it looks good.

To be honest I'm pretty sick of the wii. Games that have been out for months are still full price. M&S at the olympics is still full price.Not that I want that title, but Wii titles are cheaper than HD platform titles to start with, most don't even ship at 60 euros (who'd already be cheaper) but 50... and they've been pretty fast to drop. I've gotten lot's of discounts due to that.

Why would they drop when it's still selling too? I mean, don't you know titles only drop prices (and in other platforms, reach "platinum") when sales really drop? I mean GTA sold more than 1 million in one day, hell why hasn't it dropped? for Christs sake.

And if you don't find it cheaper for x title... just try ebay, it did sell like mad anyway; I'm sure they have it up there.

blame, blame, blame, it's a one way track for you guys.

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 01:41 PM

I think it looks good.

To be honest I'm pretty sick of the wii. Games that have been out for months are still full price. M&S at the olympics is still full price.

That's a great reason for not liking a gaming platfrom. Guess you'll have to stick with piracy.

Oh look, the anti-nintendo crowd came out to play again. Or are they "experts"? I'm confused.

mcj metroid

29-05-2008, 03:05 PM

That's a great reason for not liking a gaming platfrom. Guess you'll have to stick with piracy.

Oh look, the anti-nintendo crowd came out to play again. Or are they "experts"? I'm confused.
he has a point though where the hell is the player's choice range?

MoogleViper

29-05-2008, 03:13 PM

That's a great reason for not liking a gaming platfrom. Guess you'll have to stick with piracy.

Personally I think it's a great reason for not liking a platform. It's different when you lot go on about how expensive the PS3 is compared to the Wii.

ShadowV7

29-05-2008, 03:20 PM

MoogleViper

29-05-2008, 03:34 PM

But the PS3 is more expensive! Look at the console and game prices. Both cheaper than the PS3!! I don't see price range games for them, and their all so pricey, least Wii games are cheaper!!!

...

:heh:

I'm not saying that it isn't expensive. But wii games are also expensive. But apparently saying so makes me "anti-nintendo" or some other form of bullshit.

ShadowV7

29-05-2008, 03:43 PM

Just to clear up, wasn't being serious in my last post.

But I agree that Wii games, all games in general I think, are expensive. Wouldn't hurt to knock atleaast £5 off them all :heh:

MoogleViper

29-05-2008, 03:45 PM

Just to clear up, wasn't being serious in my last post.

But I agree that Wii games, all games in general I think, are expensive. Wouldn't hurt to knock atleaast £5 off them all :heh:

I wasn't sure. I thought I'd reply just in case. :D

Supercube

29-05-2008, 04:14 PM

he has a point though where the hell is the player's choice range?

The main retailers all have a cheaper range on display. Check out Woolworths and HMV for example. Same applies to DS and 360. It's only because the games are still selling well that they keep the prices high; who wouldn't? Most first party titles remain high for months because they are good and popular. The people who moan about prices are usually those who can't afford the games anyway.

Jordan

29-05-2008, 04:41 PM

This has now been moved to other consoles as requested by the thread starter.

D_prOdigy

29-05-2008, 04:47 PM

I've moved it in an attempt to calm some arguments going on. As far as any member is concerned, this game is for PS3, 360 and PC until official further notice.

Thus, there is no reason to come to blows over speculating whether Ubisoft are leaving Nintendo in the cold - this thread is for discussing the game, not corporate politics.

McMad

29-05-2008, 05:38 PM

Cool trailer. I have high hopes for this.

spirited away

29-05-2008, 05:52 PM

Cool trailer. I have high hopes for this.

First post in a few pages about the GAME.

There seems to a lot of hype and passion for this game; i'm going to have to borrow a copy of the original of a freind and see what all the fuss is about - never really appealed to me in the GC era. Can someone sum up the style, genre of the game for me?

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 06:03 PM

I'm not saying that it isn't expensive. But wii games are also expensive. But apparently saying so makes me "anti-nintendo" or some other form of bullshit.

I wasn't talking about you, I thought that was obvious lol Wii games are less expensive than the other ones and I find them cheap in a lot of places, so I really don't think it's a valid complaint.
Anyway, since the thread is in the correct place I can talk about the game :P
...
IF THEY HAD SHOWN US THE DAMNED GAME! They seem to have gone to a grittier artsyle than I would've have prefered, but I'll wait to see Jade. Also, words of advice folks, the fact that it was being rendered in real time doesn't mean the game will look like this.

D_prOdigy

29-05-2008, 06:28 PM

I'm sure I heard somewhere that the trailer was carved out of the game's engine, but there's not much point in criticising the style too badly until we see concrete in-game footage.

Even with a grittier art direction however, it's not IMPOSSIBLE to keep a certain charm to the proceedings; ridiculously wonderful dialogue could still play a huge role in the final product. Guess we'll have to wait a while to see how that pans out, though.

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 06:48 PM

That's my point, it's the game engine, but that doesn't mean the game will look like that. There's a reason why they were in a desert :P
Look at MGS4 for example, they had to tone it down significantly from earlier trailers and they were still on the game's engine (not the first trailer though)

MoogleViper

29-05-2008, 06:55 PM

First post in a few pages about the GAME.

There seems to a lot of hype and passion for this game; i'm going to have to borrow a copy of the original of a freind and see what all the fuss is about - never really appealed to me in the GC era. Can someone sum up the style, genre of the game for me?

It's quite unique. Watching some trailers will give you a better idea.

Hellfire

29-05-2008, 07:38 PM

I have to be honest I got the game a few months ago, played a few hoursand maybe it was the expectations, but I was a bit disapointed. I'll play more this summer though

Mundi

29-05-2008, 10:40 PM

Alright it´s not coming on the Wii... It´s not like most of us have another console we can play it on.
Unless of course your just bitter that you can´t play it with spastic movements then I really feel for you :indeed:

Dante

30-05-2008, 03:33 AM

Ubisoft chief exec Yves Guillemot told Next-Gen at its Ubidays event in Paris that this time around, the company will try to leave little to chance.

“We saw with Beyond Good & Evil that so many customers were extremely happy with the game,” said Guillemot. “We had a different audience at that time. We had more core gamers than casual gamers than we have today.

"We think the game was probably a little too difficult for the general gamers at that time. We’re going to make it more accessible and make sure that it’s really done for the new generation that’s come into videogames.”

Ubisoft announced the sequel to Beyond Good & Evil this week by offering up a trailer. No solid game details have been revealed, although we know it's being designed by Michel Ancel, the brains behind the original.

A release date has yet to be determined.

The original revolved around a photographer named Jade who finds herself knee-deep in conspiracy on planet Hillys.

WTF Ubisoft!

Retro_Link

30-05-2008, 11:36 AM

We’re going to make it more accessible and make sure that it’s really done for the new generation that’s come into videogames.

WTF Ubisoft!Knowing Ubisoft, Jade'll probably be fighting an army of Raving Rabbids! :indeed:

Coolness Bears

30-05-2008, 11:50 AM

Knowing Ubisoft, Jade'll probably be fighting any army of Raving Rabbids! :indeed:

That would be awesome! :heh:

Mundi

09-05-2009, 02:14 PM

dan-likes-trees

09-05-2009, 04:28 PM

Major bumb.

Just found this, looks much like a leaked video from Beyond good and evil 2

http://www.destructoid.com/woah-is-this-beyond-good-and-evil-2--131470.phtml

Pre-rendered or not this looks fantastic.

Was just about to post that :)

Looks pretty awesome, if abit too mirrors edge for my liking

tapedeck

09-05-2009, 05:16 PM

It's like Assassins Creed set in a futuristic Eastern city. :o
Certainly seems to fit with Jades original 'Beta' costume and the setting seems very similar to the original BG&E's rooftop chase scene. If there is some epic planet hopping shenanigans involving mass space travel and the huge scope hinted at in the originals ending scene I will be VERY happy.
BG&E (to me) is as much about emotion and relaxation as it is action, chase-scenes and evading the enemy.

Looking forward to E3. Carrrlson and Peterssoon!

Ganepark32

09-05-2009, 06:51 PM

It's definitely a rendered piece of footage but I think it's pretty damn close to how the final game will look. Does look good. The sort of meeting of Assassin's Creed and Mirror's Edge means that the chases and evasion aspects that made the first title interesting will be enhanced and taken to another level of immersion. I just hope though that they manage to pair the action seen in the footage with the relaxed factor that came with the first one outside of the action.

Dan Dare

09-05-2009, 07:43 PM

I'm calling that a render untill such a time as I'm told otherwise. I just don't think a game could flow so smoothly with so little sign posting. (how, for example, are players supposed to see the door to the house she runs through? how are we supposed to know there's a helicopter within leaping distance of that exact rooftop?)

still, as an ambition of where they're going with this- very exciting. Possibly. Assassins Creed's early footage sys 'hi!'

Wesley

09-05-2009, 08:43 PM

It's obviously a target render, but looking at the quality I'd say it's using final models, textures and lighting. But some of the animations look a bit too nice...

uəʌəsʎɐɾ

10-05-2009, 09:32 AM

I don't care if it's just an intro, and you can't do anything like that at all; I'd love to have a sequel to the game. Mmm!

flameboy

10-05-2009, 01:09 PM

Think it looks awesome. Tbh I am just glad we getting a sequel no matter what form it takes will be delighted. Yes it seems like its "stealing" from the likes of Assassin's Creed but I'm all for it embracing more modern gaming trends around the core of the original.

darksnowman

10-05-2009, 01:12 PM

Pre-rendered or not, the trailer looks really cool.

BG&E (to me) is as much about emotion and relaxation as it is action, chase-scenes and evading the enemy.

Yep, I agree. Its a game you can chill out in and spend some time messing about rather than just all out story progression. Its a great blend. : peace:

CooInTheZoo

10-05-2009, 03:26 PM

Looks fantastic! E3 gameplay maybe?

The fish

10-05-2009, 04:15 PM

Nice, looks like the Assassin's Creed (or possibly Assassin's Creed II?) engine to me. I now want to play BG&E again, dammit!

CooInTheZoo

14-05-2009, 06:48 PM

Looks fantastic! E3 gameplay maybe?

I jinxed it. Sorry everyone.

:-( (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174225)

Dante

09-08-2009, 08:32 PM

Beyond Good and Evil 2 might get cancelled (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93395-Dont-Get-Your-Hopes-Up-For-Beyond-Good-Evil-2-Yet)

Ubisoft says that they've got people working on some sort of Beyond Good & Evil stuff, but that, despite the appearance of supposed leaked footage months ago, a second game is by no means a sure thing.

Early in May some footage leaked that looked a lot like Beyond Good & Evil 2, leading some folks to get their hopes up for an announcement at E3, while others told everyone to simmer down since the video appeared to be just proof of concept footage or a very nice trailer.

Seems that the latter group was in the right here, because as Ubisoft has revealed, Beyond Good & Evil 2 is far from a sure thing. "Whether or not it comes out remains to be seen anyway, but we didn't want to abandon that IP because it has a cache and authenticity about it," Ubisoft's Laurent Detoc told IndustryGamers. "There's something very pure about that game and it's too bad that we were not able to build it as an IP at the time."

Detoc confirmed knowledge of the leak and that Ubisoft has "been working on some Beyond Good and Evil stuff," but "whether there's going to be another game or not, that's something for the future." So there could be another BG&E, but don't starting holding your breath for it just yet. Ubisoft seems only to be working on the franchise because "the creative talent is interested in it and possibly exploring how to do it from a new angle."

As for that leaked video, Detoc confirmed that it was a legitimate leak and not an marketing ploy. "I'll tell you, I didn't know about the leak and neither did my boss," he said. "The problem when you do stuff like [intentional leaks] is if you get caught it's really bad."

Ganepark32

09-08-2009, 08:55 PM

We've been saying it for years but it would suck now if they didn't follow through with a sequel. I think there are a lot of people who want it, I'm one of them, so I hope they do eventually do one. Even if that 'leak' was nothing more than some concepts or ideas for what could be, there's good stuff there to use.

You know this is probably the only time I'd advocate this but I think Ubisoft should re-release the first one on the Wii. Ok, it's not going to be a true test of the market as a sequel would more than likely come out on the 360/PS3 but it would show whether people would want it.