Ninja Gaiden II

[S.C.G]

It's roughly two months to go until release day now so I figured it's high time we had a thread / new thread for this. :smile:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/objects/686/686645.html

Overall it's shaping up to be every bit as good as the original <3 if not (dare I say it) better, the demo is due to hit XBLM this month and the game is due out the end of next month.

Who's hyped for / gonna get this? :smile:

[Dan Dare]

I'm pretty pumped:)

Edge preview this month laments a truly shite camera though. Hopefully it'll still be super fucking wicked anyway like the last one.

[Deathjam]

I'm pretty pumped:)

Edge preview this month laments a truly shite camera though. Hopefully it'll still be super fucking wicked anyway like the last one.

The camera was awful in the first game so same old same old really. Is this game also going to come out for the PS3?

[S.C.G]

If the camera is the same as the one in Ninja Gaiden Sigma then nps cos lol it was one that you control yourself anyway so the only real problem with a system like that is if you put it in the wrong place. :/

So camera "issue" aside this should be every bit as awesome as the original. :smile:

As for the to PS3 or not to PS3 topic I think that if it comes out on the PS3 (which is unlikely atm) then the 360 should get a port of Ninja Gaiden Sigma as well, which baring in mind NGII seems to be exclusive to 360 is kind of mind boggling why the original hasn't been ported to the 360 allready, I know the Xbox had NG and NGB but meh a 360 port of NG with achievements and an unlockable version of the Nes NG would own. :P

[Jordan]

Its weird...
I loved Ninja Gaiden so much that i have both the original XBOX games. I didn't buy Sigma because i couldn't be bothered to play through it three times.

I'm not excited about Ninja Gaiden II, at all. I've pre ordered it, but i'm not like "wooo can't wait!" kinda thing. Hell, i don't feel that at all about games these days.

[Cube]

The camera was awful in the first game so same old same old really.

The camera was much improved in Ninja Gaiden Black.

then the 360 should get a port of Ninja Gaiden Sigma as well

With improved graphics. The Sigma graphics are kind of "stuck in the middle"...while the original looked absolutely fantastic for an Xbox game, Sigma looked very poor for a next-gen re-release.


Anyway, I can't wait to chop off limbs.

[Jordan]

The camera was much improved in Ninja Gaiden Black.


Or a patched/updated Ninja Gaiden.

[Dan Dare]

the ability to slice off limbs is one i look forward too, frankly. I was a bit sore that only the japanese version had decapitations in the original so they better not censor it. presumably, it's too fundamental to the animation etc etc to do away with this time.

also, new weapons look sick as fuck. scythe, claws, akimbo swords. mmmm.

[Gizmo]

I have to admit to never having played a Ninja Gaiden before, but I'm looking forward to the demo, and from there possibly the full game.

[Dan Dare]

prepare to have your arse pwnd

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

This game is going to kick my ass and I will love every second.

[McMad]

I'll see you at the top of the leader-boards guys.

[Cube]

the ability to slice off limbs is one i look forward too, frankly. I was a bit sore that only the japanese version had decapitations in the original so they better not censor it. presumably, it's too fundamental to the animation etc etc to do away with this time.

Wasn't it just the US version of the original Ninja Gaiden (Xbox, not NES) that had decapitations. Still, they put them back into the game for Ninja Gaiden Black with no problems.

I'm hoping that the new weapons will be useful - the ones in NG weren't that wonderful apart from the Dragon Sword.

[Dan Dare]

the little scythe things were shit hot in the original man. you talk in lies!

[McMad]

Yeah the Vigoorian Flail was badass and almost necessary against some enemies.

[The Bard]

I hope they take some of the shit annoying enemies like the ghost fish out, cause they caused me to beat myself senseless with my controller.

[Zell]

This game seriously kicked my arse into submission. Not sure if I'll buy the sequel, I'm probably not man enough.

[Dan Dare]

I hope they take some of the shit annoying enemies like the ghost fish out, cause they caused me to beat myself senseless with my controller.

Yeah the Vigoorian Flail was badass and almost necessary against some enemies.

Yeah. There's your solution :)


still good point. they were TEH FUCKS

[LazyBoy]

Christ i'm looking forward to this. It's a far more substantial game than DMC and a crap load harder.

[The Bard]

I knows, I completed it on Hard after all :D.

The new weapons look bad ass, but I hope it has some form of nunchaku. The Vigoorian flail was a combo machine.

[Dan Dare]

it was awesome. so very awesome.

[Deathjam]

Daiboro sword was a boss killer on sigma (mate has a ps3). Charge it up to full, then release. Rinse and repeat till bos was dead. Was it the same for the earlier versions?

I have completed Ninja Gaiden, but do miss it's harsh teachings and am mulling over getting Black. Also, apart from graphics and mission mode, what else was added in sigma, as I may just wait till i get a ps3 and get that version instead.

[Dan Dare]

I just bought NG Black on 360 in a kind of hype trance. Lost my x box copy of the original, see...

[S.C.G]

Ninja Gaiden II Launch Trailer (HD) now up on XBLM. ^^

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/873/873856p1.html

^ Some new bits of info.

[S.C.G]

Themes and Gamerpics are up on XBLM now, the clan theme is nice, also it shouldn't be long until the demo now, being as the game is out on June 6th! :O

Not long now...

[Hero-of-Time]

Heres a couple of reviews both give it the same score of 7/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=143163

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/ninja-gaiden-ii/review/ninja-gaiden-2/a-20080525223739365094/g-20070820115628554022

[LazyBoy]

Heres a couple of reviews both give it the same score of 7/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=143163

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/ninja-gaiden-ii/review/ninja-gaiden-2/a-20080525223739365094/g-20070820115628554022

It's harder than the first? HARDER????? How is that possible? I mean how is it physically f*cking possible for this game to be harder than the first? I want to play this just to find out.

[Jordan]

Yikes... 7/10 is pretty low considering how well recieved the first game was.

[Calza]

Yikes... 7/10 is pretty low considering how well recieved the first game was.

It's harder than the first? HARDER????? How is that possible? I mean how is it physically f*cking possible for this game to be harder than the first? I want to play this just to find out.

I reckon thats why.

And also this is just ridiculous.

In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Every review and preview I've read says that the camera is shite. It's a damn shame too, as the camera is as important as the controls in games like this. I'll hopefully enjoy it all the same.

Edit - Fuck, mid combat loading? That's terrible. Team Ninja's games are usually technically outstanding, what happened here?

I might wait for the inevitable PS3 port six months down the line with all the problems fixed.

[Cube]

And also this is just ridiculous.

That sounds awful. It's bad enough that we have only so much health per fight and a normal health bar.

Still...I'll wait for some decent reviewers to review the game and try the demo.

[Hero-of-Time]

That sounds awful. It's bad enough that we have only so much health per fight and a normal health bar.

Still...I'll wait for some decent reviewers to review the game and try the demo.

Eurogamer arent decent? :wtf:

If it helps IGN gave it 8.7

[Ollie]

I really am looking forward to this, I hope it doesnt flop. I'll get it no matter what the reviews say, I just hope it can live up to my expectations!

[Domstercool]

Again Team Ninja make a shit camera, no doubt just like the first one that a patch will arrive to fix it.

Not long now till I have it in my hands anyway.

[Jordan]

Isn't it next week?

[Domstercool]

Yep, same time as Burst Limit, although I think I'll play Burst Limit first, want some awesome fast kamehamehaing :D

[Dante]

Isn't it next week?

Out on the 6th.

[Retro_Link]

Gametrailers Review - 8.4

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34662.html

"Good luck figuring that one out!"

lol, great review!

[Cube]

Gametrailers Review - 8.4

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34662.html


Some pretty bizarre complaints. No free roaming (and they seemed to imply that free roaming didn't exist until Rockstar invented it...did they completely miss games like The Legend of Zelda on the NES, and probably some before that) and no online aren't problems at all. And with boss fights...having flashing segments is a common complaint...so why complain when a game doesn't have them as well.

Good luck figuring that one out!

Well..now we don't have to.

[Retro_Link]

Well..now we don't have to.They don't tell you how to survive the explosion, that's what they're getting at! Having killed the boss you yourself get killed!

Don't think they were complaining about a lack of free roaming either, they are just informing people watching the review that Ninja Gaiden is a linear game [they're not stupid, they know that NG is a completely different game to GTA, and aren't making a comparison].

[Mike1988uk]

Just started playing Sigma on the ps3. Liked what i have played so far. Once i have completed that think i will defo pick this up for the 360!

[Cube]

The demo is now available to us Europeans.

3% done...stupid effin Microsoft downloads.

Edit: Now Virgin media is fucking up. I'll never get this demo.

[Hellfire]

I'm not a huge NG fan, but I suppose fans will love it as it seems more of the same but expanded. The camera is still shit and the levels still aren't adapting to the lack of camera quality which can be frustrating in combat, asides from that not much to say, brutal action, lots of limbs coming off, blood, some stylish things here and there, awesome weapons and that's pretty much what I could gather from the demo. Ah and the d-pad menu is pretty useful.

[Jordan]

Holy shit.
That demo is bat shit insane. I loved every second. Also, Dragon Sword is now seemingly the worst weapon. Mad.

Can't wait.

[Hellfire]

Yeah I didn't like Dragon Sword either. I like it when he gets all bloody and then cleans the blood of his weapons =D

[LazyBoy]

I have the game in my hands and a hard on in my trousers. I'll be back with 1st impressions.

Edit: Jesus tap dancing Christ I love this game. This guy comes at me, I roll behind him, hold y, release, go through him, then throw him up in the air, jump up, spin, taking off both his arms, nock him back down, the plunge down decapitating him. Who needs murder when you have this game?

[Cube]

After playing the demo, I'm defintely getting the game. It's so much fun to hack people to bits.


I love how you can still do the finishing move on people just after you've chopped their head off.

[McMad]

I'm in love all over again.

[LazyBoy]

I love this game so much, I think I might actually cry.

[Ollie]

Good, seems first impressions are what I was hoping for even though the reviews haven't been wonderful. Can't wait to get this now! Roll on Friday!

[Dyson]

The Demo was kickass. Loved it :D

[Cube]

I wonder what the Crystal Skulls are for...I've found two in the demo level.

Edit: Actually, I just remembered that there are no Golden Scarabs, so the Crystal Skulls *plays Indy music* are probably replacing them.

[LazyBoy]

Okay, just started chapter 7. I can't figure out if this game is easier or i've just gotten better after playing DMC4 and GOW since the last game, but i'm getting through it quicker than I did black. Still some hard points though. I already prefer it to anything else on the system. The greatest thing about the original is still here though, f*ck up once and this game will rape you till winter.

[Jordan]

Game didn't turn up today... ah well.

[S.C.G]

Been playing this since yesterday, up to chapter 4 now, I swear that this game is even more sadistically satisfying than the original. :heh:

High points - the new combo system and finishing moves / new weapons are amazing, looks nice too and save/load times aren't as bad as people thought they might be and are a small price to pay for a game such as this.

Low points - bosses that rape you, kill you, rape you again and kill you twenty times more just for lols... >> I do enjoy a challenge but some of the bosses are a tad trying on my patience and those exploding, sword wielding Ninja Dogs, the air turns electric blue whenever I encounter those. :laughing:

Still overall I am really enjoying this game, gonna be playing this as much as I can before MGS4 comes out, good times. :smile:

[LazyBoy]

Okay this is a notice for everyone. Have a spare Talisman of Rebirth for the end of chapter 7. You may have been able to figure it out on your own eventually, but trust me, you don't want to do this bit twice.

Love this game.

[Jordan]

I know exactly which boss you're talking about LazyBoy.

[S.C.G]

Ah I bet thats the boss that...

"blows up when you think you've beat it, haven't reached that bit though but it was stated in a review"

In that case yeah I'll make sure I have one handy. :)

[LazyBoy]

You got it. Yeah, I mean my heart goes out to anyone to hadn't seen a review before doing that.

[Cube]

Just done chapter one so far and I'm loving it. I got around 50 mini-achievements along the way, too.

I'm a tad disappointed that the cinema mode has no speed or camera control.

[Jordan]

You just wanted to zoom in on slow motion boobs!

[Cube]

You just wanted to zoom in on slow motion boobs!

I also wanted to watch some slow-motion overkilling (why it is so satisfying to completely rape someone who is already dead?)

[LazyBoy]

What's the deal with the cinema thing? I haven't touched it yet. How do you work it? Also, there's a miniboss about half way through chp7 that is really just taking the piss.

[Cube]

What's the deal with the cinema thing? I haven't touched it yet. How do you work it? Also, there's a miniboss about half way through chp7 that is really just taking the piss.

It basically records you playing a whole level to watch later. You can also upload one video for others to watch.

FUCKING DOGS!!!

[Jordan]

The dogs are pretty annoying.

The second trial of valor was hard the first time, easy the second once i got a good tactic down.

Just got to Vienna. I'm guessing theres only 1 achievement for finishing chapter 4?

[Cube]

The dogs are pretty annoying.

The second trial of valor was hard the first time, easy the second once i got a good tactic down.

Just got to Vienna. I'm guessing theres only 1 achievement for finishing chapter 4?

I just got there - I love the new water fighting. I only got the one achievement for chapter 4. That boss was really annoying. I found him rather inconsistent, too. The first time I almost killed him, the second time he completely raped me within 20 seconds. On around the 7th try I completely owned him.

I haven't found any of the trials, though.

Edit: Apparently I also missed two weapons.

I think I may start again on Path of the Warrior. See how far I get.

Edit 2: I changed my mind. Decided to just continue.

I just encountered the worst AI ever. I ran away from a massive group of the chapter 4 creatures and went across some water. They jump into the water and died.

[S.C.G]

OMFG! I've finally finished the fifth trial of Valour! hell yeah! I've been stuck on that trial for the whole weekend (on and off) as I'm trying to complete them all as part of my first play through but god damn that trial was insane.

On my last try I just got so pissed off with those fiends in huge mech suits that I decided to take out all of those first, (yes with rockets still flying at me and the numerous other ninjas trying to rape me at every given half second) but yeah I'd take one out, use fully maxed out fire Ninpo to get rid of a few, then the next, lather, rinse repeat.

I used the flying bird technique throughout and no projectiles (because I didn't have time to use any) got the ninjas next and then took out all the waves of guys with rockets and the feeling of satisfaction when I severed that last rocekt wielding ninjas head as it rolled across the floor with his splattered gore on the ground spelling out my victory was immense. ^^

And then the feeling of absolute horror when I opened one of the two boxes at the END only to find sodding GHOST PHIRHANAS! inside, ffs >< I didnt even attempt to fight them after that trial, I just grabbed the purple jewel from the remaining box and jumped on the warp frantically pressing R and then A and nabbing myself a god damned well earned achievement. :smile:

This game hates me and everyone who plays it, that much is evident from the way it tears you a handfull of holes and rapes the wounds at every given oppourtunity... and yet... I love it so much. :blank:

[Cube]

I still haven't found a single Trial of Valour.

I'm now on chapter 8. The Chapter 7 boss took two tries. The first time I didn't block in time and I'd forgotten to equip the Talisman of Rebirth, the second time I'd remembered to equip the Talisman but managed to block it anyway. It wasn't much of a problem considering it only took around 30 seconds to kill him both times.

It's pretty handy that the block works on enemies that explodes when thy die and (I think - not 100% sure) explosive shurikens that are stuck to you.

The Ghost Piranhas are very annoying. And were extremely confusing when you first saw them.

[Dante]

01 (__) [WII] Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
02 (__) [360] Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
03 (03) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
04 (02) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (__) [PS2] Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
06 (01) [360] Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
07 (__) [360] Ninja Gaiden Ii (Microsoft)

Ninja Gaiden II is beaten by lego. :confused:

[Cube]

I'm actually quite surprised that NG2 made it that high in the charts.

[Jordan]

Just got to the "Russian" level after the airship. Man that last trial of valor was dog shit crazy. But all the crazy robots is getting a little nuts.

I managed to kill the chapter 7 boss without getting hit, nevermind getting killed. Get it into a corner, spam it to death with a fully upgraded double Katana. Win.

[Cube]

I just found out that I can't do the trails because I missed the Rod in chapter 2. I think when I've finished I'll re-do the Path of the Acolyte just to get absolutely everything.

Edit: There's one section which throws a massive amount of enemies at you.

So many that the game slows to around 4 frames per second. Who's crazy idea was that?

[LazyBoy]

Done. Loved every second of it. And the final weapon was just wank fodder. I'll be starting it again very soon.

[Cube]

Also done. I'm also disappointed with the final weapon.

Still, now I've just gotten used to the shadowless footsteps (I think that's the dashing when you're block is broken) and ultimate techniques/guidance I should be able to do warrior. I just want to do it again on Acolyte to get everything.

[Heaven]

I'm actually quite surprised that NG2 made it that high in the charts.

seconded. Its a game that has a strong fanbase but few people play it. just like the first one, which didnt even make it to the charts (as far as I can remember) so, Im impressed too

[Cube]

I'm rather amazed at ho learning a few techniques can improve your skills.

You meet the first boss quite a few times later on in the game. Each time I struggled with it. Now I've learnt how to play the game properly at the start of Path of the Warrior and I just completely owned the first boss without getting hit. And then again when you meet him in Chapter 2.

[Dan Dare]

this game is utterly fantastic. amazingly, it's even better than Black.

stuck on the water boss though. How am I supposed to take him out without being able to fight properly on water, never mind not being able to dodge...

[khilafah]

this game is utterly fantastic. amazingly, it's even better than Black.

stuck on the water boss though. How am I supposed to take him out without being able to fight properly on water, never mind not being able to dodge...

Stay on the ledge and use your charged up arrows. cast nipo when he attacks with his projectiles as you wont get hit.

[LazyBoy]

The one after the ghost fish? Just go postal with the chain weapon, Kurai-gama or whatever.

[S.C.G]

This game is awesome and I very nearly completed it but MGS4 arrived as I got to the last chapter... and the end boss is cheap... I've now completed MGS4 so go figure. :heh:

I will go back to it to finish the boss at some point, but cheap end bosses slightly ruin games like that for me. :/

[Jordan]

The last boss is pretty easy, you just have to keep moving...

[Dan Dare]

This game sometimes feels harder than the first and I think I know why.

The graphics!

Seriously: in the first game there was a...spartan cleanliness to the graphics- not much got in the way of what you were actually doing, and you could really concentrate. Now, with the much more complicated textures and animation, I'm often finding myself surrounded by a whirling mass of enemies and just getting lost. The much closer camera and obliteration technique close ups really don't help, either.

[Dante]

NINJA GAIDEN Σ２for PS3.
In this version you will be able to play Ayane, use a new weapon and fight new boss.

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/76811420090317_120624_0_big.jpghttp://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/76811420090317_120624_1_big.jpg

[Choze]

A 360 japanese game for PS3! :heh:

Sounds nice. So its called Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2?
Hope they work on the camera.

[Dan Dare]

I'm not sure they can. I heard tales that the source code for that camera is so bad that anyone who tries to tinker with it gets AIDS.

[Cube]

The camera was fine for most of the game.

It's just that stair bit that needs fixing.

[Dan Dare]

it's not. It's rubbish! think how many tiemes you got knocked around by unseen, unpredictable projectiles and shit. A fixed camera would have been way better for this kind of thing.