Prince of Persia

[Dan Dare]

Fucking Yes! (http://forums.g4tv.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13282620)


Looks bloody awesome it does. Bit like SFIV. Bring it on!

[LazyBoy]

Nice, real nice, especially where it talks about moving away from that piece of crap AC. No chance of a Wii version though I guess.

[Dan Dare]

nah. that happens when games are good.

[LazyBoy]

Galaxy...........

[Dan Dare]

yeah yeah. Nowt else good though.

[Strange Cookie]

My first reaction was "Oh no's!", then "Hell Yeah!"

This looks very promising! Those graphics make it stand out from the crowd. I hope they can regain the magic of Sands of Time. I wasn't a big fan of it's sequels, but adored SoT.

yeah yeah. Nowt else good though.

As a multiplatform gamer, I can but frown in complete incomprehension of the quote above. :nono:

[LazyBoy]

As a multiplatform gamer, I can but frown in complete incomprehension of the quote above. :nono:

A sad sight

[Dan Dare]

alright i can't be arsed with a debate. more importantly: this game looks the biz.
the quotes in the OP link say they've removed the time travel and made it more zelda like. Sounds like free roaming dungeons instead of straight up platforming. Interesting move, but I'm not sure I'm convinced- I kinda liked the simplicity of SoT

also, they're claiming the fights are like duels. This makes me happy. Everyone knows the best fights in this kind of thing are the one on one battles with single, powerful advasaries.

[Hellfire]

nah. that happens when games are good.

Ah if I was a mod...

Anyhoo, stupid trolling aside, this looks awesome, can't wait to see more.

[nightwolf]

God it's been an age since I've seen anything about pop, I've got the first three so this is a nice addition, I really need to get back and play them actually!

[Hellfire]

You can skip Warrior Within. You should skip Warrior Within.

[Dan Dare]

Ah if I was a mod...

Anyhoo, stupid trolling aside, this looks awesome, can't wait to see more.

you don't want the truth! you can't handle the truth!

[nightwolf]

I know, but I've already started on them both, I think I may have deleted the saved games...hmm.

[Dan Dare]

oh yeah, and fuck warrior within. It's so, so shit. The other two are two of the finest games on any last gen system, however.

[Hellfire]

you don't want the truth! you can't handle the truth!

Go back to NeoGaf :P

[Dan Dare]

never been!

I jest, really. I jsut don't think much to the wii. The control scheme (lets be honest, the only thing that ever made it good) has been reduced to gimicky shit by a multitude of shoddy third party shovelware.

[Hellfire]

never been!

I jest, really. I jsut don't think much to the wii. The control scheme (lets be honest, the only thing that ever made it good) has been reduced to gimicky shit by a multitude of shoddy third party shovelware.

It's OK, I'm kidding too. Although your view on the Wii is clearly (very) narrow and misinformed, you're free to think whatever you want as long as you don't go trolling like some other forumites. Ok, ontopic now!

I want to see this in motion, I've been waiting ages for someone to take this approach to graphics and it can look stunning, it looks really close to the artwork that leaked some time ago. I hope they don't go down the angsty, emo path again.

[LazyBoy]

Sands of time would be one of the best of last-gen if it weren't for that awful goddamn combat system. I like the idea of duels though. Might be able to make it look like the combat system of the persian broadsword should be.

[Dan Dare]

from what they've said, it's a more mystical, Arabian Nights thing this time. it's not even sands of time territory. It sounds really interesting because I always liked the fairytale edge to the first game.

Sands of time would be one of the best of last-gen if it weren't for that awful goddamn combat system. I like the idea of duels though. Might be able to make it look like the combat system of the persian broadsword should be.

correction: the system was actually really solid. the problem was just the sheer ammount of killing you had to do with it. Waaaay too much. Going back, the actual fights are far, far more fun that Warrior Within. Two Thrones added the stealth kills though, which made the fights really really good. Almost puzzle like.

[Hellfire]

Yeah the mechanics weren't bad, but they exagerated with the ammount of fighting. Mixing wallriding with fighting was awesome. Two Thrones was cool too, but SoT is the best.

[Jamba]

I must be the only one who think that this looks crap in the way they have designed it visually.

Seriously the settings and the characters don't gel at all, it looks like he's been stuck onto the level in the way it's rendered, coloured and lit. No cohession at all. I don't see this "style" bringing anything new to the character or feel of the franchise especially when its so obvious that they can neither let go of the realistic style nor bravely design an original style. It's a mess, jumping on the cell-shaded train offering nothing visually.

[The Bard]

That's the best thing I've ever seen...

[Jimbob]

I must be the only one who think that this looks crap in the way they have designed it visually.

Seriously the settings and the characters don't gel at all, it looks like he's been stuck onto the level in the way it's rendered, coloured and lit. No cohession at all. I don't see this "style" bringing anything new to the character or feel of the franchise especially when its so obvious that they can neither let go of the realistic style nor bravely design an original style. It's a mess, jumping on the cell-shaded train offering nothing visually.

Actually, i also don't quite like the style that this is going into. The Prince this time looks rendered into the scene not as such looking suited to the environment. To be honest, this looks like art-work and not actual game graphics. Read the list below the pics, some of it sounds total bull.

[Hellfire]

A game that looks like artwork? Day 1. (if it's any good)
And in fact, what says below the pics, makes 100% sense with what you're saying. The prince looks like artwork slapped in the environment, because the environment changes dynamically, thus they had to go with a more "normal" look.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Looks awesome. I even managed to get some enjoyment out of Warrior Within. Definitely a day one purchase.

Edit-

Oh God I had a bit of a nerd rage at one of the posts on that site. :D
But i've gotta say, the only reason I ever played prince of persia was for the free running mechanic. But now that we have Assassin's Creed, that series is pretty much useless to me.

[Jordan]

Assassin's is great... Its just like putting lids on pens for a job.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Assassin had some great gameplay mechanics, but it was coated in a layer of repetitive, soul destroying tasks. If they'd had some more time to actually make a proper game out of the excellent control system, it would have been so good. :(

[LazyBoy]

Assassins' was a pinnacle example of great ideas being left to rot without a solid game behind it to back it up. One of its main problems was Ubisoft tried to make it sandbox. They should have gone for a more Hitman like experience, level based. Scrap the entire 'information gathering' thing and take a lot more help from the Splinter Cell team (unless i'm being dense and it was the same team).

What it needed most of all was another 6 months. Oh and get rid of the American accent, it ruins all the credibility.

[Cube]

Assassins' was a pinnacle example of great ideas being left to rot without a solid game behind it to back it up. One of its main problems was Ubisoft tried to make it sandbox. They should have gone for a more Hitman like experience, level based. Scrap the entire 'information gathering' thing and take a lot more help from the Splinter Cell team (unless i'm being dense and it was the same team).

The sandbox thing wasn't the problem - it was one of the better things about it. It was just that the information gathering was badly done and the planning/initiation of the assassinations wasn't great, either. Plus the combat could have been a lot better rather than "hold Trigger. Press X. You've won!"

What it needed was to have missions for the information instead of the 3 different microgames. As well as a "drawing board" before the main assassination.


Anyway, the PoP graphics look ace.


Speaking of PoP....I should really get round to playing more of Sands of Time...it's just that WASD gets painful after a short amount of time...perhaps I should get a PC wireless adapter for the 360 controller.

[Dan Dare]

just buy a wired 360 pad. they're usb and come with pc drivers.

[nightwolf]

Hmm so basically if I can stand playing zelda on the ds I'll be able to stand assassins?

I found prince of persia quite repetitive at time, but that's only because of having to go back to the same place, kill the same people blah blah blah

[Jamba]

Hmm so basically if I can stand playing zelda on the ds I'll be able to stand assassins?

I found prince of persia quite repetitive at time, but that's only because of having to go back to the same place, kill the same people blah blah blah

Absolutely not. The Sea King Temple does not even compare to Assassins Creed because the repetitiveness lasts the whole game, not just a bit of it now and again. At least in Zelda you got to go on hoiday and do a dungeon, pick up some local souvenirs and explore the see before coming back to your boring 9-5 job at the Sea King Temple. Assassins Creed is like having a job of hand painting barcodes, accept less challenging.

[chrizkerr2]

Man, now I'm in the mood for playing the PoP trilogy, shame only the first one is backwards compatiable on the 360 ¬_¬

[Babooo]

Am I the only one not to like this new look? I don't think it particularly looks very nice.....

P.S much love to POP:Sands of Time....man I loved that game. Even my mum did!

[Coolness Bears]

Hmm.. I'm not sure about the art style at the moment! I need to see some more screenshots! :)

I loved PoP and never played any of the other ones! i welcome another Prince of Persia game! :D

[Jamba]

Am I the only one not to like this new look? I don't think it particularly looks very nice.....

P.S much love to POP:Sands of Time....man I loved that game. Even my mum did!

I think it looks rubbish. Don;t understand why people like it....

[Dan Dare]

Edge have a preview this month (out on 8th) so hopefully they'll have some good impressions.

[Hellfire]

I think it looks rubbish. Don;t understand why people like it....

Beeecause there's a thing called opinion.

[Calza]

Edge have a preview this month (out on 8th) so hopefully they'll have some good impressions.

I've got the magazine but I havn't had the chance yet to have a decent read at it, I don't think they have any new pictures but front cover looks awesome as does the art work in the article.

[Dan Dare]

they've played it though, oui? that's the important bit.

[McMad]

Beeecause there's a thing called opinion.

"Yes I think the Holocaust was a great moment in history (fucking jews)."

Opinions: They aren't always right.

[Hellfire]

"Yes I think the Holocaust was a great moment in history (fucking jews)."

Opinions: They aren't always right.

Oh right, I forgot, there's also a thing called good sense.

[Jamba]

Beeecause there's a thing called opinion.

Oh yeah obviously but there are reasons as to why you have those opinions. It wasn't a stupid question, I genuinely don't see anything to shout about in those shots at all yet the first page of this thread is full of people saying they do. They don't really say what they like about it, so I' just asking people to expand on that...

What a waste of typing. Well at least maybe you can understand me now without having to make snide comments.

[Hellfire]

Oh yeah obviously but there are reasons as to why you have those opinions. It wasn't a stupid question, I genuinely don't see anything to shout about in those shots at all yet the first page of this thread is full of people saying they do. They don't really say what they like about it, so I' just asking people to expand on that...

What a waste of typing. Well at least maybe you can understand me now without having to make snide comments.

The internet wouldn't be fun without snide comments. Although I didn't make one, I understand that you don't like it because it's your taste and opinion, but exactly because of that you have to understand that other people might be enticed by the game's style. Seriously, do I even need to explain this?
Seeing a game that finally uses cel shading to make it seem like you're playing with the artwork is indeed something easy to be excited about, even if you don't like it (like SF4).
Also, you really don't like me do you? lol

[McMad]

Oh right, I forgot, there's also a thing called good sense.

How do you measure having good sense though? Is there a simple definition for it?

No. Like opinion it is entirely subjective and your perception of good sense is just a wrong as everyone else's.

[nightwolf]

Ok I'll add a comment then

The images themselves actually look good, the prince himself looks alot better than he looks in the other films (and hopefully doesn't strip off like he does...-.-). As does the boss that's shown, apprently they are able to practise more moves than just wandering about trying to kill the prince.

No rewind?! Why the heck not =[?

It does sound similar to assassins but they seem to have realised the flaws from that game and are trying to refine it for this PoP, which is nice, I like the idea of the real time to, with plants growing and such.

Sorry to be lacking in detail, but there's not that much to go off.

[Jamba]

Seeing a game that finally uses cel shading to make it seem like you're playing with the artwork is indeed something easy to be excited about, even if you don't like it (like SF4).

You see, that wasn't hard was it? You actually explained yourself, that's all I was asking for. You're the only person who's actually done it so far (and you had already made such a comment anyway... my original question wasn't actually aimed at you).

Also, you really don't like me do you? lol


Not at all. I just find it annoying when you try and de-rail me when I'm trying to start discussion going. If we just said that everything was everyone's opinion then this would be a damn dull place. If anything I'd say it was you who doesn't like me, you do seem to have a pattern for replying to almost anything I say with an inflamatory attitude.

[Hellfire]

Nice, real nice, especially where it talks about moving away from that piece of crap AC.

This looks very promising! Those graphics make it stand out from the crowd.



also, they're claiming the fights are like duels. This makes me happy. Everyone knows the best fights in this kind of thing are the one on one battles with single, powerful advasaries.

A game that looks like artwork? Day 1. (if it's any good)


Are these not good enough reasons for people liking it, do we need captain obvious-like posts?
We have a few screenshots and little info, people say they like its looks and like what they are reading, when there's not much to discuss, that wraps it up. Do we need to explain every little thing that we like about, just because someone doesn't like it?
*You can jump with A*
-Awesome! You can jump with A, I am really looking forward to jumping with, because A is a really good button and is a hallmark of gaming controllers, symbolozing the beggining.
I wouldn't like a forum like this. (No need to reply saying something about snide comments, it's a joke OK?)

Don't think I'm hunting your posts or anything, I always reply like this, I see something I don't like or agree, I reply, it's simple. I'm not de-railing anything and I'm not insulting anyone, it's just that it's hard to see how it's not understandable that other people like other things, which is why I replied.

How do you measure having good sense though? Is there a simple definition for it?

No. Like opinion it is entirely subjective and your perception of good sense is just a wrong as everyone else's.

Good sense or common sense, whatever you wanna call it, is realizing if saying or doing something in a certain context is appropriate or not. It's not a hard science, but it's not black magic either.
If you think it's completly normal for people not to understand how others can have different opinions and it's OK to say that genocide is awesome and back that up by saying it's your own brand of good sense, there's something seriously wrong.
Off-topic enough for you?

[Deathjam]

Personally I like it when designers make good use of cel shading, to give the characters a more charming feel to them e.g. Jet Set Radio. I hate it when it used blatantly because 'it's the thing to do'. E.g. the TNMT games Or when it is implemented poorly or at the most basic level, again the TMNT games.

EDIT: 500th post! And im finally something other than a regular :D

[Jamba]

Look this is the last thing I'm going to post, because you've managed to take a reasonable question of mine and use it to half fill this thread with crap, mostly consisting of you failing to understand me.

Are these not good enough reasons for people liking it, do we need captain obvious-like posts?
We have a few screenshots and little info, people say they like its looks and like what they are reading, when there's not much to discuss, that wraps it up. Do we need to explain every little thing that we like about, just because someone doesn't like it?

No, Hellfire, please read what I say carefully cos it's obviously difficult for you to understand by the way you're reacting (that wasn't a joke). I am asking people why they think it looks good to try and strike up a conversation about visual style and aesthetics. It's not about me needing it spelt out for me (by the way am I spelling everything out for you ok, here?) but an opportunity to get some depth out of the discussions on this board. I'm sorry that you feel that my question seems inappropriate and I can't actually believe that you've tried to have a discussion about whether it's worthy of answering. Don't like the question, then don't answer.


I'm not de-railing anything and I'm not insulting anyone, it's just that it's hard to see how it's not understandable that other people like other things, which is why I replied.

Not hard to undestand that people like certain things at all, Hellfire, I'm interested in why because that says things about presentation and graphical representation. Just because something has a simple answer to you doesn't me it does to everyone else. And yes you have de-railed my question by over analysing it and being petty, something which you would understand if you considered what other people are trying to get out of the forums. Seriously, your actively spoiling the forums for me at the moment, which I would never do to anyone here. Stop being selfish.

I don't feel like you are targetting me in anyway, the fact that you are sniping on all of my comments is just because I've been saying things that you don't agree with, which you pathologically can't help but contradict. Have fun, saying a lot of nothing dude, must be really fun : peace:

[nightwolf]

sigh, this is still going on? >.<

[Dan Dare]

ok, I like it because!

They're going for a more fable like, fantasy setting in this one. They've said the feeling should be like Arabian Nights or similar. Therefore, the 'painted' look to the textures seems fittingly unreal and, importantly, open to use for truly otherly visual effects etc. additionally, the quasi super human antics of the prince would not lend themselves well to the more or less realistic style of assassins Creed, although i think it's safe to say we can expect an animation system to be borrowed from there, what with it being Montreal's last output.

[spirited away]

Umm yer soo... POP looks good!

I agree with Dan: the surreal textures look to lend themselves well to the fantastical nature of the POP series.

Importing the animations and such would be a no-brainer. Can't wait to see how Assasins' physics play out in self-contained, specifically designed areas. We're getting spolit with our parkour at the moment eh?

[Retro_Link]

New POP: Speed Artwork Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33651.html

What is Ben Mates, like 12!!

Anyways, new art direction looks cool, and that is seriously some impressive drawing for 20mins of work!

[spirited away]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34503.html

Beautiful new cinematic - I really love this new cellular art-style :)

[Cube]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34503.html

I'm confused. Isn't this supposed to be a lovely-looking cel-shaded game?

What's with the extremely dull and generic graphics in the trailer?

[Hellfire]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34503.html

Beautiful new cinematic - I really love this new cellular art-style :)

It's just cgi. Seriously Ubisfot, this isn't 1998, no one cares about pre rendered graphics anymore.

[LazyBoy]

Why are they white? Seriously what the hell. If I wanted to play as a dark haired white guy and a white chick with big nakers i'd play, well any other game pretty much ever. Damn Ubisoft suck.

[spirited away]

It's just cgi. Seriously Ubisfot, this is 1998 no one cares about pre rendered graphics anymore.

Cheers, I didn't realise :blank: .

[Retro_Link]

Wonder if this new ally character in the trailer is a hint towards a co-op mode?

[Hellfire]

Wonder if this new ally character in the trailer is a hint towards a co-op mode?

The character helps you during the game, we've seen that in screens, so it doesn't necessarily mean co-op, but it's possible.

[Shino]

I was expecting some cel shading.

[Retro_Link]

New Gameplay Video: Developers Diary

http://www.gamekyo.com/video12906_prince-of-persia-new-video.html

[Dan Dare]

this game is going to be so sick

[Cube]

I wonder how the combat system will work with lots of enemies...

[Dan Dare]

it won't. every fight is a duel :)

[Cube]

it won't. every fight is a duel :)

And all my excitement for the game has just flown out the window.

[Jordan]

Whats up with 1 on 1's?

[Dan Dare]

why? the combat looks amazing- beautiful, choreographed looking martial arts, epic music, genuinely challenging enemies.

think about it this way: what's the best fight in zelda history? dark link. Best enemies in Halo? Gold Elites.
Why? because they're equals. They're actually interesting, not cannon fodder.

[Cube]

I just don't like them much. Against crazily powered bosses it's fine, but otherwise I just don't find it that interesting.

think about it this way: what's the best fight in zelda history? dark link.

Awesome room, extremely dull fight.

[Goron_3]

wow the footage i've seen of this looks fantastic. I've never played PoP before but the art sytle of this one looks fantastic. Definately buying along with Gears, Far Cry 2 and Lego Batman.

[Aimless]

I just don't like them much. Against crazily powered bosses it's fine, but otherwise I just don't find it that interesting.
I hate to use this card, but seeing as you haven't played the game I think it's a bit early to be passing judgement. The combat is designed around one-on-one fights, so frame it in that context; think along the lines of a simplified Soul Calibur as opposed to God of War.

Anyway, with this, Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider Underworld all due this year, it seems like a good time to be a fan of acrobatic videogames.

[Cube]

think along the lines of a simplified Soul Calibur as opposed to God of War.

I was thinking along the lines of Soul Calibur.

[Ashley]

Okay only midly relevant but its going to bug me so I need other people's opinions.

Whoever this chick from the new PoP is, is it me or does she bear a striking resemblence to Lisa Rinna?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/05/pop_s_011.jpg
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/lisa-rinna-33rd-annual-daytime-emmy-awards-arrivals-tImGJX.jpg

Yes, it bugged me this much. The chin, the hair, the eyes, the boobs (http://swol54.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/lisa-rinna-001.jpg)...just me?

[Nolan]

umm yea kinda...

[Retro_Link]

Don't know who Lisa Rinna is, but sure why not!

[Dante]

achievements

prince of persia achievements (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/prince-of-persia-retail/achievements/)

Wallrunner
10
Completing the Canyon.

Compass
10
Use the Compass.

Heal the Land
30
First Healing.

Saviour of the City of Light
50
Final Healing.

Explorer
20
Explore every part of every region.

Block Master
20
Block 50 attacks.

Deflect Master
20
Deflect 20 attacks.

Sword Master
20
Perform 14 hits in one combo.

Be gentle with her
100
Elika saves you fewer than 100 times in the whole game.

Improviser
10
Use the environment against an enemy.

Up against it
10
Win a wall mini-game in combat.

Ruined Citadel Runner
10
Run from the Sun Temple's Fertile Ground to the Fertile Ground in Windmills in 5 minutes.

Vale Runner
20
Run between the Fertile Grounds in the Construction Yards and Heaven's Stair in 6 minutes.

Royal Palace Runner
30
Run between the Fertile Grounds in the Royal Gardens and Coronation Halls in 4 minutes.

City of Light Runner
40
Run between the Fertile Grounds in the Tower of Ahriman and City of Light in 7 minutes.

Warrior Special
20
Dodge the Warrior's attacks 20 times in one battle.

Hunter Special
20
Deflect the Hunter's attacks 5 times in one battle.

Alchemist Special
20
Defeat the Alchemist without using the acrobatic button.

Concubine Special
20
Defeat the Concubine without using grab.

Light Seeds Finder
10
Collect 100 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Collector
10
Collect 200 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Provider
10
Collect 300 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Locator
10
Collect 400 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Harvester
10
Collect 500 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Hoarder
10
Collect 600 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Gatherer
10
Collect 700 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Accumulator
10
Collect 800 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds Protector
10
Collect 900 Light Seeds.

Light Seeds master
50
Collect 1001 Light Seeds.

Speed Kill
10
Kill 10 generic enemies before they spawn.

Throw Master
10
Throw 10 Soldiers of Ahriman into pits.

Assassin View
10
Find the Assassin's view.

Titanic view
10
Find the Titanic View.

In Harmony
10
500 coop jumps.

Precious Time
10
Take one minute to think.

Where's that Temple?
10
Talk to Elika.

Getting to Know You
10
Get to know Elika by talking to her.

Good Company
10
Learn about the world, and Elika's history.

Climbing to New Heights!
10
Find the highest point in the world.

Sinking to New Depths!
10
Find the lowest point in the world.

Speed Demon
10
Finish the game in under 12 hours.

Combo Specialist
50
Find every combo in the game.

Secret Achievement
10
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
20
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
20
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
20
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
10
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
20
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
30
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

Secret Achievement
80
Continue playing to unlock this secret achievement.

[Ryan]

Trophies will probably be the same won't they?

[Chris the great]

Trophies will probably be the same won't they?

trophies are available on the game, so i dont see why they would be any different.


just a side note, i dont see why so few games go for trophies. i mean, a simple patch and DMC4 would be perfect for trophies, even valkaryia chronicles has a trophie esq system in it, but no real trophies. i look like i suck with just a few drakes fortune trophies.

[dazzybee]

Any reviews for this game yet? I love the sands of time trilogy and was really excited about this game, but a few of the previews didn't fill me with confidence!

[Mundi]

Reviews are gonna be what decides this for me, I´m a bit iffy on if I should get it.
I like the look but I don´t like the fact that you can´t die on falling and most combat is 1v1 duels

[Dan Dare]

I'm waiting on reviews..a bit. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy it anyway but I am a little concerned about Edge's comments that the controls feel a bit Assassins Creed like.
I dunno if that matters too much. As long as there's an actual element of working something out myself and the art holds up, i suspect I'll enjoy this quite alot.

[spirited away]

I'm waiting on reviews..a bit. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy it anyway but I am a little concerned about Edge's comments that the controls feel a bit Assassins Creed like.
I dunno if that matters too much. As long as there's an actual element of working something out myself and the art holds up, i suspect I'll enjoy this quite alot.

I would have to agree with that; you feel like you're on autopilot most of the time. Saying that though, the gameplay flows majestically with the aid of that women, and the combat is really good.

[Ganepark32]

First review for it is up. got 8 out of 10 from OXM.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=202313

[Choze]

I quite liked the demo to this. The presentation is nice. Voice acting is cheesy(western cheesy not japanese cheesy) in a good way. The controls made sense as well. Elika helps correct you often but i didnt mind much. Some might find it cheap though.

[Dan Dare]

is it on XBL?

[Ryan]

Must be, didn't see it on PSN.

[Jav_NE]

Playing this at work and its awesome. Elika saves you whenever you fall, but i like it because i'd hate to die and be sent back to some shitty checkpoint.

Its a pretty big game by the looks of it too, and many, many light seeds to collect which is fun.

[Jordan]

So, a buy Jav?

[Ellmeister]

Is it quite linear? Are the jumps set out now? (I heard rumours) or can you still choose different moves to get places? :)

[ReZourceman]

IGN have given it 9.4/10

Wowza.

Erm, when is this out?

[Jordan]

Next Friday.

[Ryan]

I should probably preorder it then..

[Jordan]

I've had it pre ordered since the original showing.

I'm SO glad this is just like Sands of Time. Its one of my favourite games ever released.

[Jav_NE]

So, a buy Jav?

I'd say so. I'd probably give it a 9.

The only bad thing i can say about it is it might be too easy for some people. What i mean by that isn't based on the platforming, that's all rather cool and intuititive (a little too on-rails at times with mere button presses required at the right time, but meh), but when it comes to battles you really cant lose because you cant die. Elika saves you should you get in a predicament and the only resulting factor of your failure is the enemy gaining a bit more health. There's no sense of "aha, i kicked your ass!" because its inevitable that you will win eventually, even if the fight is a long one.

There are tactics in battle (using the right attacks when enemy changes) and sweet combos which keep them interesting, but i just find it a bit lame that you cant die. Takes away the challenge.

Still, level design is awesome and the scenery is breathtaking. Some more puzzles would be nice. I've had two pretty good ones so far but thats not many considering i'm over half way.

The Prince and Elika have some good banter through the game too which i like. They have made me chuckle on quite a few occasions (just now he accused her of looking at his ass, she denied it of course before taking a blatant peek when he turned around haha).

[Ryan]

Should be a good laugh. The voice actor is Nolan North from Uncharted, he's a great actor.

[Jimbob]

Is the demo out now, if it is i shall be taking a look over the weekend. Then the full title on Friday, should be a nice weekend session coming from it.

[Jordan]

Is the demo out now, if it is i shall be taking a look over the weekend. Then the full title on Friday, should be a nice weekend session coming from it.

Don't expect a demo...

[Solo]

Yeah, perhaps a demo will appear a week or so after release so you're better off saving some pennies and purchasing.

[Chris the great]

Should be a good laugh. The voice actor is Nolan North from Uncharted, he's a great actor.

i recognised his voice in a review. as much as i loved him as drake, he didnt seem to fit as the prince. then again, i dont know the tone of the game, might work well. i'll wait till jan/feb to get this, maybe in january sales.

[Retro_Link]

Gametrailers Review - 8.7

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43264.html

[Caris]

Looks really good, think i might ask for this for Christmas.

[Solo]

It's definitely one of my most wanted of the year, loved Sands of Time and this just looks breathtaking, the 9.4 review on IGN helped too.

If you order from play you get it in sexy packaging and two free Sands of Time skins for your Prince and Elika, temptings!

http://images.play.com/covers/5489813x.jpg

http://images.play.com/banners/5489813l.jpg

[Chris the great]

sold valkyria chronicles to buy this. cannay wait!

[Nintenchris]

From the gametrailers review
"do anything the game doesnt expect and your met with awkward moments, or in the case of the playstation 3 version, out right crashes"

!! i would avoid the ps3 version then
Im getting it for 360 anyway.. and OMG i cant wait!

[Jav_NE]

Jade from Beyond Good & Evil! I loved that game! Elika looks rather hot as her too.

I want the Farah costume for her too but damnit i'm not pre-ordering and buying the game just for it when i've already completed it. Ah well.

[Ryan]

From the gametrailers review
"do anything the game doesnt expect and your met with awkward moments, or in the case of the playstation 3 version, out right crashes"

!! i would avoid the ps3 version then
Im getting it for 360 anyway.. and OMG i cant wait!

The only review I've seen where they've said something like that. I'm not phased..

[Nintenchris]

ITS HERE!
But the post man was so lazy he only just got here so i cant play till tonight
Royal FAIL

[Jordan]

Mine wouldn't be here for a good few days... Play.com = hella slow delivery to Shetland.

Ah well, Sonic and Banjo to finish anyway.

[Chris the great]

mine aint here, i blaim the snow. game usualy rule at delivery.

[ReZourceman]

I got it from the import shop place, and the guy in there said they've only played it 10 minutes so far, but its amazed them 10 times....should be good. Actually can't wait to play now.

I went PS3 in the end. Two people at work each begging me to get X platform so they can borrow it heh heh.

[Jimbob]

My copy finally arrive today, may give it a go later if i get time. Actually, i just made time and am playing it right now.

First thoughts: I'm impressed. The gameplay is very good. Graphical style is awesome. This is a lot better so far than Assassins Creed.

Oh and if you register your game with Ubi, you get a nice surprise.

[Aimless]

Rather than buying the game from Play for the SoT Prince and Farah costumes, you can just enter this code in any version: 52585854. Works for both the PS3 and 360.

Speaking of which, I can't say I've had any technical issues with the PS3 version so far — I'm around the 25% mark, at a guess. I've seen some mild screen tearing during one of the cinematics, but otherwise the framerate has been very smooth and I haven't encountered any crashes or glitches.

[ReZourceman]

Rather than buying the game from Play for the SoT Prince and Farah costumes, you can just enter this code in any version: 52585854. Works for both the PS3 and 360.

Speaking of which, I can't say I've had any technical issues with the PS3 version so far — I'm around the 25% mark, at a guess. I've seen some mild screen tearing during one of the cinematics, but otherwise the framerate has been very smooth and I haven't encountered any crashes or glitches.

I actually did have one glitch lol. Nothing game breaking but I was like EH. About 20 minutes in, I kept falling through the floor. I went back, and then went back again and it triggered a cut scene.

I'm at the bit where you have to collect the shining bits now. Its quite tricky...I can't see where I have to go.

Fucking awesome so far though.

[Jimbob]

Rather than buying the game from Play for the SoT Prince and Farah costumes, you can just enter this code in any version: 52585854. Works for both the PS3 and 360.

Speaking of which, I can't say I've had any technical issues with the PS3 version so far — I'm around the 25% mark, at a guess. I've seen some mild screen tearing during one of the cinematics, but otherwise the framerate has been very smooth and I haven't encountered any crashes or glitches.

Indeed the code works, cheers for the heads up Aimless. Current skin is set to Sands of Time Prince. I did have it on the Altair skin earlier mind (the Ubi.com exclusive skin)

[Jordan]

Not sure if i like the SoT skin. He seems far too "tall" as if he's been stretched to fit the new prince model.

Loving the game though, did the first 4 fertile lands last night. Great fights, shame they were over so fast and the achievements are just too easy.

[ReZourceman]

I can't get to the high glowing orb things of the first 0/60 lot. How do you get to the top ones? :(

[Jav_NE]

There are some you cant get until you have the right power to use a certain power plate.

[ReZourceman]

There are some you cant get until you have the right power to use a certain power plate.

Oh right....lol that makes sense, as theres red plates near them. I need to go to the next section then? God I'm a n00b.

[Dan Dare]

Want to get this today. Problem is my local indie is behind on delivery and I need to shop there so I can trade in certain games I can't trade elsewhere.

[ReZourceman]

Want to get this today. Problem is my local indie is behind on delivery and I need to shop there so I can trade in certain games I can't trade elsewhere.

Theres a rumour (in the bargains thread) that "half price at Woolworths" I'm not sure what on, but I'll find out at lunch (in 6)

I'll report back.

[Dan Dare]

Cheers!

not vital I get it today but...it's an option. Been looking out for it for a while an all. looks great.

[ReZourceman]

Cheers!

not vital I get it today but...it's an option. Been looking out for it for a while an all. looks great.

Yeah wasn't reduced at all. A few of the games were 10% off but thats it.

[Chris the great]

arived today, along with a load of dvds for family members. very excited when i heard postie crunch up the drive.

played just under an hour, very impresed, had a few issues with controles, being used to the old school pop, this feels closer to drakes fortune in terms of platforming.

speaking of drake, the same voice actor is the prince, and despite my worries, he works well, got a great cocky, smart ass vibe that works well. im guessing face capture was used, the prince bears a resembalence to drake.

so far, i love it.

[Ryan]

No copy from Play for me so far. TDK on Blu Ray has been dispatched though!

[ReZourceman]

Oohhhh I thought it was him.

[Ryan]

Oohhhh I thought it was him.

He was great in Uncharted.

[ReZourceman]

Totally agree. Wicked voice actor. Sounds alot like Nathan Fillion (and in fact Drake looks like Nathan Fillion a bit imo) but yeah. I've heard not many close to the fine cut scenes and voice work in Uncharted.

[Jordan]

No copy from Play for me so far. TDK on Blu Ray has been dispatched though!

Weird, I got mine yesterday and I live 3 countries away from where Play is based :D

[Dante]

Dont type this number in skins manager.
525858542.
:p

[Sanchez]

Really enjoying this game, not that it isn't without problems.

[Ryan]

Weird, I got mine yesterday and I live 3 countries away from where Play is based :D

Came today!

[Dan Dare]

bit annoyed. My local indie/ small chain store, after expecting a delivery of this game all day friday (see above) only got two sodding copies and sold them both before I got in this afternoon.
grr.

[Aimless]

bit annoyed. My local indie/ small chain store, after expecting a delivery of this game all day friday (see above) only got two sodding copies and sold them both before I got in this afternoon.
grr.
It'll be £20 in a few weeks anyway.

That isn't a reflection on the quality of the game, by the way — I've completed and really enjoyed it. So long as you take the game for what it is instead of constantly comparing it to The Sands of Time, I think it proves to be a good adventure game in its own right.

(It has to be said that half the time I was playing the game I was thinking how great BG&E2 will be if it uses this engine, though.)

[Chris the great]

even compared to sands of time, its a great game. its certainly kept alot of the epic feel, and trimmed the frustrating elements away, leaving a very well polished title behind. the only short coming is that it dosent feel ground breaking like sands of time did, though that would be very difficult, as there are so many of the freeruning style adventures about now.

[Dan Dare]

It'll be £20 in a few weeks anyway.

That isn't a reflection on the quality of the game, by the way — I've completed and really enjoyed it. So long as you take the game for what it is instead of constantly comparing it to The Sands of Time, I think it proves to be a good adventure game in its own right.

(It has to be said that half the time I was playing the game I was thinking how great BG&E2 will be if it uses this engine, though.)

It's not the price that bothers me as i know I'll pay less anyway. I write freelance reviews and I now have a fair few watermarked games with PROMOTIONAL COPY NOT FOR RESALE on them. Luckily my indie guys don't give two shits about that and I can trade in with them (with every penny being 100% profit. zing!) so I'm just annoyed that their delivery sucked ass.

[Jordan]

I now need 540 light seeds. I can hardly be arsed :-/ especially with Banjo calling me so much (woo 66 jiggies).

[Choze]

Giving this a rent. Hopefully its good.

[Dan Dare]

got this.

very nice. the animation is fucking amazing.When you string together a few moves over longer distances and it just flows and flows with no pauses, no glitches and nothing even close to a transition issue it's nothing short of astonishing.
Enjoying this 'no death' smoke and mirrors lark too. Functionally exactly the same as the previously titular sands gizmo, and a far, far preferable experience to a YOU ARE DEAD screen (um, note to developers: no I'm not. Look, a continue button!)
Combat is sweet too. Not sure if it'll ever be particularly tense but it's spectacular, full of character and the atmosphere of an old school, mythological adventure is a perfect fit for the whole shebang.

[Chris the great]

just mopping up the trophies, collecting the light seeds has left me frustrated, a group of 6 is totaly oput of reach, im going crazy trying to reach em. im in the 900 region now, once ive all of them ive got a few running between levels to do, and anouther play through without needing my arse rescuing so much.

very good game, the ending especialy totaly blef me away.

[Aimless]

collecting the light seeds has left me frustrated, a group of 6 is totaly oput of reach, im going crazy trying to reach em.
Whereabouts? I found all the Light Seeds, so I might be able to help.

Speaking of which, it was quite nice finding everything without having the temptation of GameFAQs — there weren't any guides available. It reminded me of Orb hunting in Crackdown, albeit far less frustrating as you know how many you have left to find per area. I do think it's a bit of a shame that you don't get anything other than a Trophy/Achievement for collecting more Seeds than are required, though; you'd think there'd be some other sweetener, such as a bonus costume.

[Chris the great]

Whereabouts? I found all the Light Seeds, so I might be able to help.

Speaking of which, it was quite nice finding everything without having the temptation of GameFAQs — there weren't any guides available. It reminded me of Orb hunting in Crackdown, albeit far less frustrating as you know how many you have left to find per area. I do think it's a bit of a shame that you don't get anything other than a Trophy/Achievement for collecting more Seeds than are required, though; you'd think there'd be some other sweetener, such as a bonus costume.

its in the first set of areas you explore, second one from the left. from the fertile ground, you can see a set, its got a couple of pipes coming out of it. i litterlay tired for 20 mins, im ready to face palm at the blatently simple solution.

[Aimless]

its in the first set of areas you explore, second one from the left. from the fertile ground, you can see a set, its got a couple of pipes coming out of it. i litterlay tired for 20 mins, im ready to face palm at the blatently simple solution.
I'm going off memory here so sorry if I'm a little fuzzy, but is the area The Cauldron? If so...
You can climb down from one of the low platforms to a hidden beam, and from there you can jump onto a concealed green Plate.

Standing on the Fertile Ground and facing the Seeds you're after, the platform you're looking for should be down and to the right in the chasm.

Sorry if that's the wrong place.

[Jav_NE]

Same ones i couldn't get! I think everyone will be stuck on them because you see them first but cant get them until you have the green power and find that secret beam.

[Dan Dare]

hmm...opinion of this one is shifting.

It's FAR too easy. Oddly, I don't think my complaints are quite the usual with the loose command times or the combat system- just that I simply don't feel inventive when I'm playing. EVERYTHING is just running in a straight line- they've completely removed any kind of spatial awareness puzzles so that rather than freeing up the player with the control scheme, all they've done is numbed the experience because the level design is so poor behind the illusion of spectacle.

There's some really good stuff in here: I really like the combat, the art is astonishing, Elika is a revelation, I like the controls.... but I realised last night that I've not learned any new tricks with the game since the tutorial.

[That Guy]

So the only real complaint with the game is just how easy it is? Because I'm alright with easy as I get very frustrated with difficult games quite often. There are games like N+ where I like it to be difficult but stuff like this I'm fine with it. Would everyone recommend it?

I'm not gonna buy it until it's cheaper anyway. Is there any real difference in PS3 version and Xbox version? If so I'll buy whichever is cheapest.

[ShadowV7]

It's in GameStation for £24.99, offer ends today though. I would go and get it but dunno if I ca make it since there's next to no busses where I live on Sundays, would of bought it yesterday but I never thought to ask when the offer ended :heh:

[That Guy]

It's in GameStation for £24.99, offer ends today though. I would go and get it but dunno if I ca make it since there's next to no busses where I live on Sundays, would of bought it yesterday but I never thought to ask when the offer ended :heh:

It's the same price online so i just ordered it, so cheers for that. I didn't really want to pay full price for it but I think £25 is a good price for it. More games should be £20-25. :p
Ordered the PS3 version as I don't have many games for it.

[Dan Dare]

So the only real complaint with the game is just how easy it is? Because I'm alright with easy as I get very frustrated with difficult games quite often. There are games like N+ where I like it to be difficult but stuff like this I'm fine with it. Would everyone recommend it?

I'm not gonna buy it until it's cheaper anyway. Is there any real difference in PS3 version and Xbox version? If so I'll buy whichever is cheapest.

but the thing is that it's so easy you barely feel like you have any agency. There's no challenge here whatsoever. It's not a case of the game being stripped down and letting you get on with it, it's that there's barely any game left it's so basic.

Avoid, frankly. Unless you give it a rent and see.

Really wish I could recommend it. I just can't. I love sands of time it was almost perfect. Why do they insist on telling themselves it was a problematic game? :shakehead

[Chris the great]

the ease was daft, but the fighting gave you a chance to get more involved.

[That Guy]

but the thing is that it's so easy you barely feel like you have any agency. There's no challenge here whatsoever. It's not a case of the game being stripped down and letting you get on with it, it's that there's barely any game left it's so basic.

Avoid, frankly. Unless you give it a rent and see.

Really wish I could recommend it. I just can't. I love sands of time it was almost perfect. Why do they insist on telling themselves it was a problematic game? :shakehead

It's ordered now anyway so I'll give it a go. If it's not very good then I can always stick it on ebay and get back what I paid for it.

[Jordan]

The game is stupidly easy, I haven't touched it till i realised i needed 540 light seeds.

This isn't Metroid, I'm not back tracking... ¬_¬

[S.C.G]

This is currently £17.99 on Play! today ONLY though, considering picking it up but I shouldn't as I have too much to play allready. :/

[ReZourceman]

I would definitely buy it for that price. Crazy sick deal.

[Retro_Link]

A sealed copies are currently selling for £25-£30+ on ebay!
Heck I don't have a PS3 but I'm tempted to get a copy to either keep for a future PS3 purchase, or to sell on!

[Jav_NE]

You can teleport you know Jordan :p

Loved this game. Yeh, its easy, but big deal. Its fun and looks gorgeous. Plus, the pool puzzle in the Royal Gardens did have me stumped for a little while.

[Hellfire]

This is currently £17.99 on Play! today ONLY though, considering picking it up but I shouldn't as I have too much to play allready. :/
I'd buy it at that price, but too many games, too little money.

[That Guy]

This is currently £17.99 on Play! today ONLY though, considering picking it up but I shouldn't as I have too much to play allready. :/

Thanks for that! Cancelled my order of Gamestation (they didn't dispatch 'immediately' as it said on their website...) and ordered on Play.com for even cheaper :D

It got 9.3 on IGN which basically said to think of the game more as an experience. I like playing a game sometimes where there is no major challenge and I just get to sit back and relax and take in the game.

[flameboy]

Hmm...seems a ton of places are doing this cheap...I am very tempted looks like it may offer something genuinely different from your normal platformer...

[dazzybee]

Ordered Sands of time is one of my favourite games last gen; worried this will pale in comparison, but at that price I'll get to play AND make a profit!

[Dan Dare]

Ordered Sands of time is one of my favourite games last gen; worried this will pale in comparison, but at that price I'll get to play AND make a profit!

this game is nothing to Sands of Time.

*sadface*

I had such hopes. This was supposed to be a return to the idealistic, art driven gaming Sands represented. It's nothing of the sort.

[dazzybee]

this game is nothing to Sands of Time.

*sadface*

I had such hopes. This was supposed to be a return to the idealistic, art driven gaming Sands represented. It's nothing of the sort.

Oh great....can't wait to play it :D Oh well, thought as much!

[That Guy]

Just got this today. Enjoying it so far. Weird though, I set a destination on the map thing then it showed me where to go yet the ground just wasn't there. I tried jumping but I just fell to be saved. I thought I was being retarded and just not getting it, but I quit, reloaded the save and the ground was there this time and I could just run along where I was supposed to go. :s
This happened to anyone else? I'm playing the PS3 version.

[ViPeR]

Just bought this off of Play.com. It's still £17.99 by the way. Bargain at that price but I won't get it until the new year now.

[S.C.G]

Just bought this off of Play.com. It's still £17.99 by the way. Bargain at that price but I won't get it until the new year now.

Yeah I was surprised at that, I did what people were suggesting and bought five so I could sell some on, listed them on eBay at £24.99 and they sold in a day. :blank:

Thing is lol once Play sold out of their first batch they put it to £39.99 again briefly until they got more stocks in and priced them at £24.99 (they were this price when mine sold) so just as well they sold when they did too now that Play seem to be keeping that £17.99 price. :heh:

I won't make a huge amount on them now though cos of uber postage costs, but a good few quid on each, gotta send them Special Delivery on Monday to ensure they reach the buyers before Christmas, still was worth doing. :)

Kept a copy for myself as well so will get round to playing it eventually... >> *stares at mountain of 360 games*

[flameboy]

Edge gave this a lowly 5/10. I decided to give it a miss for now, as only recently started Assassins Creed and there are similarities between the two.

[S.C.G]

Hmm so Edge = 5 IGN = 9.4... so that basically means it's a 7.5 game if taken as a rough average.

[Ryan]

Completed it! I'm annoyed because of the nature of the ending I can't continue exploring/getting more trophies. But an enjoyable game none the less.

[Chris the great]

Edge gave this a lowly 5/10. I decided to give it a miss for now, as only recently started Assassins Creed and there are similarities between the two.

i found edge to be very harsh on it. they slated the prince as annoying, yet to be honest, i liked it.

[That Guy]

Edge gave this a lowly 5/10. I decided to give it a miss for now, as only recently started Assassins Creed and there are similarities between the two.

I'm really enjoying it so far. I love the fact that if I mess something up I can try again. Why would I want to redo a whole load of it every time I mess up? I like the combat system, that looks really good. And I really wish there were more games with this graphical style, it really is one of my favourites.

It's good so far, and the lack of major difficulty isn't bothering me in the slightest.

I found Assassins Creed to be tedious beyond belief, and everything that was crap in that game is not in this one so far.

[Sheikah]

Hmm so Edge = 5 IGN = 9.4... so that basically means it's a 7.5 game if taken as a rough average.
It would if you factored in an EDGE review score, but we all know you should never do that. Pick a random number and use that instead.

[nightwolf]

Just bought this game and play it for a couple of hours.

I agree it is an easy game (although for some reason I'm continously going round and round in circles, maybe I'm just tired). But I like it, there's no point in comparing it to sands of time, because not only is it a different person, it's set in a different style too!

I like how elika is with you, pretty neat to fight with her, although she can get abit annoying sometimes. Plus prince's voice is...well american!

I'll continue playing, I'd probably recommend it to somebody who hasn't touched the last three prince of persia games, like I have. It's got a nice style with it, good combat and the story well interesting enough! Shame about that bloody donkey though.

[dwarf gourami]

I'm not going to buy it because I'm not a fan of the art style and if the difficulty has been toned down to a minimum then what's the point?
I don't want to be invincible when fighting bosses.

I finished The Two Thrones and it was great - but I wasn't left wanting more.

[dazzybee]

My copy arrived today, though I can't see my starting it until August! Might whack it on now for 5 minutes though see what it's like!

[ViPeR]

Mine came today from Play. Was not expecting that at all. I'm enjoying it so far, like wolfy said it is quite easy. I'm hoping it'll pick up a bit but to be honest it's just fun to play and gorgeous to look at. For £17 i'm not going to complain. Also is it me or does the music have a very epic, John Williams score, about it. Great :)

[Solo]

This game is wonderful and there's a massive plus point about the game which I think no one here has mentioned and (IMO) it's that the camera is perfect, it never gets in the way and follows the Prince perfectly. Something that other games of this genre rarely nails. *points at Sonic and Tomb Raider Underworld*

[Jimbob]

I'm at the point of picking up the first batch of Light things, and can't seem to find a way to acquire some of them. Any tips.

Btw, they seem to be located on the outer wall of the area where you cast the light back into the land.

[Ryan]

I'm at the point of picking up the first batch of Light things, and can't seem to find a way to acquire some of them. Any tips.

Btw, they seem to be located on the outer wall of the area where you cast the light back into the land.

Some you won't be able to get straight away, you'll need different powers to access the paths.

[Jimbob]

Some you won't be able to get straight away, you'll need different powers to access the paths.

Just spotted a red pad of which i can acquire a power to get to later.

Still enjoying this title very much.

[Cube]

I wish Play.com would hurry up. They used to be good at posting stuff very quickly.

[nightwolf]

I wish Play.com would hurry up. They used to be good at posting stuff very quickly.

Play are cack at delivering, sometimes I get it next day; others I wait 3 weeks for. It's ridiclous. Luckily it's a worthwhile game to play.

I final got all the powers and I'm taking a break from it, the bosses are incredibly easy :shakehead even for me!

[Ryan]

The Warrior pisses me off

[ViPeR]

I can't seem to a combo going which totally rapes their health. All I get is like 4-5 hit combo and they either stop it or it does sod all. That being said it is an enjoyable game. Is it me or are some light seeds only obtainable by killing yourself? There was one somewhere, where no where lead to it. No plates, as far as I know, went through it. In the end I just had to double jump into mid air and land on it...

[nightwolf]

Yes there's a few, it's not really killing yourself though; she saves you.

[ViPeR]

Yes there's a few, it's not really killing yourself though; she saves you.

No I know but I felt as if it was a bit cheeky lol. Also it'd go towards that achievement. It's like get through the game only being saved so many times or what not.

[Solo]

I can't seem to a combo going which totally rapes their health.

Try this - X X X Y X Y A Y X Y B then (after the grab) A Y X or A X Y or A X B

This will also get the combo achievement.

[Ganepark32]

Just got this today when I got my PS3. Haven't had a go on it yet. Waiting till later to have a go as I need to do some more tidying. The mass of cables behind the TV is pretty bad so need to sort that out before I can try this out. Would have just got it on the 360 but my brother, for some reason, really wanted a PS3 and this was available with the PS3 on a deal so we got it.

[nightwolf]

Finished it earlier today. Really disappointed. I don't see the point of the ending at all!

Why do all that just to do exactly what Elika's father did?! God damnit prince..

[Chris the great]

Finished it earlier today. Really disappointed. I don't see the point of the ending at all!

Why do all that just to do exactly what Elika's father did?! God damnit prince..

he couldnt bear to be without her. should make an interesting plot mind.

[tapedeck]

Saw this in ASDA today for £20

[Aimless]

Finished it earlier today. Really disappointed. I don't see the point of the ending at all!

Why do all that just to do exactly what Elika's father did?! God damnit prince..
Because he loved her. That's an explanation in itself, really.

Prior to meeting Elika he didn't care about anything, but during their time together she grew to fill that void. To lose her is to... well, imagine emerging from a cave to see the sun for the first time. You bath in its warmth and beauty, its rays penetrating the thick skin you've spent so many years growing. And then someone says, "Right, that's it, you never get to see the sun again." Ignorance is bliss, and love selfish.

That and Ubisoft Montreal clearly liked Shadow of the Colossus a lot.

[Cube]

Got this game, played a bit (I've done three of the first 4 areas). It feels as if the game is doing most of the playing itself. It's still fun, though.

[nightwolf]

haha guys I was being sarcastic, I understood why he did...but why?! as in fustration.

I'm tempted to re-play it and make sure I get all the achievements..quite addictive!

[dazzybee]

Play are cack at delivering, sometimes I get it next day; others I wait 3 weeks for. It's ridiclous. Luckily it's a worthwhile game to play.

I final got all the powers and I'm taking a break from it, the bosses are incredibly easy :shakehead even for me!

I actually did a test. I wanted a few blurays and did some research into where was cheapest, amazon, play and hmv were all pretty similar.

Anyways, I decided to order Horton Hears a Who from play, batman 1+2 from amazon and There Will Be Blood from hmv. Horton Hears a Who came first! So play now get all my custom :)

My point? I have no idea......

Anyways, not massively impressed with the game at all, the Prince IS annoying, and all it makes me want to do is crack out Sands of Time on the Gamecube

PS Does anyone know of any loyalty point places that sell DVD's/CDs similar to Tesco and Games system?

[Aimless]

haha guys I was being sarcastic, I understood why he did...but why?! as in fustration.

I'm tempted to re-play it and make sure I get all the achievements..quite addictive!
Oh, sorry. I'm just used to dealing with people on forums that pay little to no attention to a game's story and then ask loads of really obvious questions about it.

I got the Platinum Trophy (all the Achievements, in cross-console speak) yesterday. My only word of warning would be to look up how to get the 'Combo Specialist' one as it caused me a lot of grief before I turned to a guide; you have to pull off every combo in the game, but there are a load of fairly arbitrary and unwritten rules that you have to follow.

For me this is a good 7/10 game that I thoroughly enjoyed both times I played through it. It could easily be a much better game — make the acrobatics a teensy bit less forgiving, add more spacial puzzles and verticality to the environments, not have to stand still whilst the Prince and Elika are talking — but I think it's aesthetically excellent and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the sequel. The Sands of Time is a better game, but... well, you can still go and play that instead if you're that bothered.

[nightwolf]

I actually did a test. I wanted a few blurays and did some research into where was cheapest, amazon, play and hmv were all pretty similar.

Anyways, I decided to order Horton Hears a Who from play, batman 1+2 from amazon and There Will Be Blood from hmv. Horton Hears a Who came first! So play now get all my custom

My point? I have no idea......

I see what you mean and for 90% of the time play are fantastic, for my computer it arrived basically the next day and I was thrilled because I needed it. But sometimes they just take the preverable at delivering and I never quite understand why. I probably won't touch amazon again, let's face it they take ages regardless and charge alot too!

Oh, sorry. I'm just used to dealing with people on forums that pay little to no attention to a game's story and then ask loads of really obvious questions about it.

I got the Platinum Trophy (all the Achievements, in cross-console speak) yesterday. My only word of warning would be to look up how to get the 'Combo Specialist' one as it caused me a lot of grief before I turned to a guide; you have to pull off every combo in the game, but there are a load of fairly arbitrary and unwritten rules that you have to follow.

For me this is a good 7/10 game that I thoroughly enjoyed both times I played through it. It could easily be a much better game — make the acrobatics a teensy bit less forgiving, add more spacial puzzles and verticality to the environments, not have to stand still whilst the Prince and Elika are talking — but I think it's aesthetically excellent and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the sequel. The Sands of Time is a better game, but... well, you can still go and play that instead if you're that bothered.

It's ok, I normally try to get ahold of as much story as possible with these games, it makes playing it alot easier, which is why I loved the ''chat'' button between the prince and Elika so much.

I'd say for movement he needs to move abit faster when on vines, whilst doing the final boss the amount of fustration I had because the prince had to pick up Elika at the same time. I'd go as far to say that it wipes the dust of pop 2/3. Definately a nice enough game.

[dazzybee]

I see what you mean and for 90% of the time play are fantastic, for my computer it arrived basically the next day and I was thrilled because I needed it. But sometimes they just take the preverable at delivering and I never quite understand why. I probably won't touch amazon again, let's face it they take ages regardless and charge alot too!


Yeah I've had some nightmares with play; well, maybe not an nightmare but I got a DVD/Game/CD a few days later than I wanted. I was very surprised there's turned up first; maybe because it's been over xmas.

[dwarf gourami]

Really doesn't sound like my kind of game, cartoony visuals (sorry, not my thing), dumbed down difficulty and bosses that can't kill you... I loved the Two Thrones but it looks like they've taken a detour with the franchise.
Is it kind of like Zelda in that it isn't episodic but instead there are just multiple ways of telling the tale?

[Portlett]

got this for my b'day a couple of days ago and im really enjoying it the platforming elemetns are so much fun and the prince moves very fluidly and I also agree with what someone mentioned before the camera is very good.

[Cube]

I've been playing it a bit more. It's still a lot of fun, despite it's problems.

I'm already fed up of transforming a world of grey into green and beige. Like the Prince himself said in the game: there's no variety. The "City of Light" just seemed to be the same place as everywhere else I've visited so far.

While the camera never needs fiddling about when it's following Prince, it still is a pain in some of it's "forced" positions, but that's nothing new.

Anyway, so far it seems to be a great game for when you want to both relax and play a game.

[Jordan]

Okay, so I finished the game, reloaded my save where Elika is 'doing stuff flat' and was going back for some more achievements... And now I can't pull up my map. Is this normal?

[Solo]

Okay, so I finished the game, reloaded my save where Elika is 'doing stuff flat' and was going back for some more achievements... And now I can't pull up my map. Is this normal?

Thats because you can't go back to the lands you've healed once you're at that point, you need to load a previous save before the final boss or start a new.

[Letty]

Started playing last night.

This looks like its going to get very tedious very quickly...

[Choze]

Yikes. Hope it holds up for me. My rental is coming!

[Jordan]

Started playing last night.

This looks like its going to get very tedious very quickly...

To be honest, the battles start awesome and then... become overly difficult. Not in like a fun way, more like the game just starts stringing a jack load of QTE's.

[Jimbob]

To be honest, the battles start awesome and then... become overly difficult. Not in like a fun way, more like the game just starts stringing a jack load of QTE's.

Your telling me, i nearly threw my controller at the TV because Elika kept saving me thus allowing the bosses to re-charge. I kept pressing X to counter the attacks the boss was giving, but she kept interfering in the battles.

[nightwolf]

Did anybody notice that although you'd be close to one of the bosses that when you came to use Elika's powers she wouldn't go to attack him because she'd say she wasn't close enough? Infurating as it seemed to change each time I fought anything!

[Jordan]

Did anybody notice that although you'd be close to one of the bosses that when you came to use Elika's powers she wouldn't go to attack him because she'd say she wasn't close enough? Infurating as it seemed to change each time I fought anything!

Yeah, that was REALLY annoying. Why the hell did Elika have to be within your reach of the enemy. Surely, seeing as she can fly... why does she have to be anywhere near the enemy?

[nightwolf]

Yeah, that was REALLY annoying. Why the hell did Elika have to be within your reach of the enemy. Surely, seeing as she can fly... why does she have to be anywhere near the enemy?

Haha I'm pleased to know I wasn't the only one who was nearly chucking my controller around because of this. It doesn't help that it leaves you vunerable, specially when fighting the courtesan.

[Dan Dare]

I think the real question is 'why does Elika need the prince?' she's clearly capable of everything you can do, plus she can fly and use magic. lawl.

[Dante]

i was going to buy this game with Beautiful Katamari for £30 but didnt buy them.
Bad choice?

[nightwolf]

I'd have it personally, it's not a amazingly rubbish game.

[ShadowV7]

Yeah, bad choice. Be ashamed :heh:

[Dante]

Yeah, bad choice. Be ashamed :heh:

*sits in the corner bieng ashamed. :(

[dazzybee]

Started playing last night.

This looks like its going to get very tedious very quickly...

I was bored within the first half an hour, this game is baaaad!!!

i was going to buy this game with Beautiful Katamari for £30 but didnt buy them.
Bad choice?

Good choice. It'd be like buying Katamari for £30 :)

No, thats a bargain really, probably make a profit on Persia!!

But the game is one of the worst Ive played all year....and I played Resustsence: Fall of man!!

[Solo]

What! It's a great game man.

Yeah it was repetitive but it was so nice to play and it's beauuuuutiful.

[Cube]

I'm about to fight the Hunter fir the 6th time, already defeated the Concubine. Which means I've only got one power left to go. Does this mean that the next batch of light seeds are the last ones that I need to finish the game?

[nightwolf]

One of the achievements is to collect 1001 light seeds, gives you an idea of how many you need to get.

But yes I think that'd the last batch you need to get. The rest are optional.

[Jimbob]

One of the achievements is to collect 1001 light seeds, gives you an idea of how many you need to get.

But yes I think that'd the last batch you need to get. The rest are optional.

Lot of light seeds then, good thing only half are required to beat the game. Otherwise would find it a bit tedious to collect them all.

[Jav_NE]

Your telling me, i nearly threw my controller at the TV because Elika kept saving me thus allowing the bosses to re-charge. I kept pressing X to counter the attacks the boss was giving, but she kept interfering in the battles.

She doesn't interfere. If you press the prompts right she wont have to save you. You might be thinking of times when you are backed against a wall/edge of the arena as that always triggers an escape event.

[Jimbob]

She doesn't interfere. If you press the prompts right she wont have to save you. You might be thinking of times when you are backed against a wall/edge of the arena as that always triggers an escape event.

Sometimes i get the "X" to counter the attacks and it does skip to Elika saving me instead.

[Aimless]

Sometimes i get the "X" to counter the attacks and it does skip to Elika saving me instead.
I would assume that X on the 360 is the sword attack, in which case every time that comes up in a QTE you have to press it more than once. The other face buttons only require a single press.

[ViPeR]

Sometimes i get the "X" to counter the attacks and it does skip to Elika saving me instead.

I pretty much always mistime the QTEs so she ends up saving me. If she does save you it's because you missed the button press or didn't press it enough. I'm always pressing it when it comes up with X, Y, whatever, but it's never good enough.

[Jav_NE]

Odd, it was usually fine for me. I only messed them up occasionally. If it helps, most prompts are the same for each type of move so you can guess what prompt it will be when you see the start of their attack. There's usually only one attack where the prompt changes, like when the Concubine has you on the floor and jumps on top - i think that one changes.

[nightwolf]

I messed up those ones quite alot. My reactions are incredibly slow, which doesn't help much. I found when the concubine is ontop of you I got A or Y more often than not. I'm tempted to reload it and get all the rest of the achievements today, but I'm curious to finish assassins creed first.

[Cube]

Finished the game. I loved it when I started playing, then started liking it less and less until the game was extremely boring. Ubisoft have done Assassin's Creed all over again - I'll be sure to ignore any promising-looking games from them in the future.

As you get used to the controls it feels as if you have less and less control over the Prince. He does what he wants to do (for a few light seeds I had to literally battle his automated moves...speaking of light seeds, was it just me or did you need to kill yourself to get some of them?). The biggest problem is that the game just punishes you for trying to experiment or explore.

The combat starts of poor and just gets more annoying as you get through the game. Plus you fight 6 different enemies in the whole game.

As for the final battle...it was just annoying and difficult for all the wrong reasons - mainly the atrocious camera. Plus it mainly took place on vines (which are the worst thing in the game as they just absolutely spoil the flow of things).

The power plates throughout the game also seemed extremely cheap. Two of them were the same and are basically just warps. The flying one would have looked cool but they decided to put the ugly blue effect covering most of the screen so you can't see the lovely views, plus some of the paths seemed utterly pointless. The wall running one was cool, but was annoying in that in some places you needed to move before you saw something.

Back to the ending...it seemed unfinished. The Prince is still smiling after Elika dies, and the small areas you corrupt by hitting the trees looked like Spider-man spewed all over it when you stepped outside the area. Plus it felt as if the whole game was for absolutely nothing.

An extremely disappointing game.

[Letty]

Got all 4 powers now, but holy shit is this boring.


Also, I have real difficulty hitting 'x' fast enough against the warrior!!!

[Pantsu Man!]

I'm glad I've been playing this in sections, each after a few weeks. At the start it was lush, by the time I'd got the yellow plate thing and went to the third place I got bored. Turned it off and left it a few weeks. Played it again and was enjoying it. Then got bored again.
Played it again today and the same happened. Shame as it's a wonderful looking game.

[That Guy]

Finished the game. I loved it when I started playing, then started liking it less and less until the game was extremely boring. Ubisoft have done Assassin's Creed all over again - I'll be sure to ignore any promising-looking games from them in the future.

As you get used to the controls it feels as if you have less and less control over the Prince. He does what he wants to do (for a few light seeds I had to literally battle his automated moves...speaking of light seeds, was it just me or did you need to kill yourself to get some of them?). The biggest problem is that the game just punishes you for trying to experiment or explore.

The combat starts of poor and just gets more annoying as you get through the game. Plus you fight 6 different enemies in the whole game.

As for the final battle...it was just annoying and difficult for all the wrong reasons - mainly the atrocious camera. Plus it mainly took place on vines (which are the worst thing in the game as they just absolutely spoil the flow of things).

The power plates throughout the game also seemed extremely cheap. Two of them were the same and are basically just warps. The flying one would have looked cool but they decided to put the ugly blue effect covering most of the screen so you can't see the lovely views, plus some of the paths seemed utterly pointless. The wall running one was cool, but was annoying in that in some places you needed to move before you saw something.

Back to the ending...it seemed unfinished. The Prince is still smiling after Elika dies, and the small areas you corrupt by hitting the trees looked like Spider-man spewed all over it when you stepped outside the area. Plus it felt as if the whole game was for absolutely nothing.

An extremely disappointing game.

I'm not even half way yet but I agree with the first bit of what you said. I have found that I am liking it less than I did at first. I feel like I'm doing the same thing over and over again. I also feel like the combat is hella dull. It's just attack block, attack block.
I'm still enjoying running around the environments and that though. I'm not enjoying that flying round crap though. I can barely see anything then if I hit anything I have to redo it. Hella annoying.

[ViPeR]

About a week ago I got the Blue plate (last one for me). Is it me or is there no difference between blue and red? I did the training and I didn't get it, you just bounce around in exactly the same way. I've given mine a rest for now as I can't be arsed to go back to it. It's a shame really as this game has potential to be so much more but I feel you just run from one area to the next. In fact there's speed run achievements for just that.

[That Guy]

About a week ago I got the Blue plate (last one for me). Is it me or is there no difference between blue and red? I did the training and I didn't get it, you just bounce around in exactly the same way. I've given mine a rest for now as I can't be arsed to go back to it. It's a shame really as this game has potential to be so much more but I feel you just run from one area to the next. In fact there's speed run achievements for just that.

Yeah, Ubisoft can't seem to make a full game, they make 30 minutes and then apply it to 12 hours. I enjoyed the first hour of Assassins Creed but then it got samey. Ultimately I found that game to be hugely irritating whereas this I haven't thankfully.

[Columnar]

Yeah I agree - I found Assassin's Creed got quite boring after a while but even though its as repetitive, somehow PoP still has me actually wanting to play it. Does anyone know what the Download Content for the game is going to be if anything?

[Jimbob]

Yeah, Ubisoft can't seem to make a full game, they make 30 minutes and then apply it to 12 hours. I enjoyed the first hour of Assassins Creed but then it got samey. Ultimately I found that game to be hugely irritating whereas this I haven't thankfully.

Yeah I agree - I found Assassin's Creed got quite boring after a while but even though its as repetitive, somehow PoP still has me actually wanting to play it. Does anyone know what the Download Content for the game is going to be if anything?

I agree as well, Assassins Creed got boring after a while (well, about 30-40 minutes into the game it did). All it did was the same, save citizens, climb towers, investigate and assassinate. Got boring.

I need to get back into playing this, been a bit pre-occupied with Fable this week. May give it a go again on Monday.

[Letty]

Just got the 4 main boss things to do now, then finally finished!! :D

*cracks on*

[ViPeR]

Just completed it and I must say, what the fuck! Basically that is THE worst ending i've ever had in a computer game.

So the whole game was totally pointless. Everything you did you're going to have to do again in a sequel? Fuck that. Man, every conversation you have in the game, "Stop Ahriman!", "Heal the land!", "Stop the corruption!". It's literally banged into your head constantly... so why didn't he let her stay dead! Jesus, I don't think i'm going to go back to the game again that really pissed me off.

[Solo]

Just completed it and I must say, what the fuck! Basically that is THE worst ending i've ever had in a computer game.

So the whole game was totally pointless. Everything you did you're going to have to do again in a sequel? Fuck that. Man, every conversation you have in the game, "Stop Ahriman!", "Heal the land!", "Stop the corruption!". It's literally banged into your head constantly... so why didn't he let her stay dead! Jesus, I don't think i'm going to go back to the game again that really pissed me off.

Because he fell in love with her and that over powered his rationality.

I'm pretty sure someone here explained it a few pages back.

[dwarf gourami]

Thing is, and I haven't played this, games rarely evoke any real emotion. Unless Elika(sp) is a very deep character that you can understand and appreciate why the Prince would love her so much then it is almost pointless. You've worked hard to do something and if it ends in such a way you should understand and feel it. Easier to portray this stuff in films than in games.

[Chris the great]

Easier to portray this stuff in films than in games.

i dissagree. im more attached to alex in half life then most film characters. i think its more a question of the wrighting. women seemingly get a bad rap in games, either helpless and weak or insane ninja sluts.

elika didnt fall into either box, she was both strong and weak at the same time. only problem was, she didnt have much depth, and was a little dull at times.

as story telling progresses in games, i imagine caring alot more for charcters. plus, how many films do you actualy care about the characters? in the vast majority you don't. its only well written films that make you really care.

[dwarf gourami]

Yeah I guess, but more Films are story driven and well written than in games. Half Life 2 is an exception, Alex was very good, I found the developer commentary interesting. Episode 2 Ending was brilliant and sad at the same time. Can't wait for the 3rd.

[ViPeR]

I understand he fell in love with her and basically is just a complete idiot. However due to the fact that I didn't really care much for the characters I did feel as if i'd done the whole game for nothing as has been mentioned. I'd agree with Alex though. I actually cared what happened to her. I think the storytelling in PoP is unique but not in a way it did it any favours. Essentially the player chooses how much they want to know about the characters through the 'conversations'. Interesting idea but I found myself just pressing the R trigger so I could get the conversation out the way and move on. Elika isn't a bad character and i'm sure through a few more cutscenes it may have worked better. It's just a shame the majority of the dialogue was like having a history lesson. "This city was home to such and such and...", I don't care...

[Letty]

Throughout the game, I began to despise Elika more and more, to the point I didn't even want to play.
However, whn I got to the end and she died, I was like 'YUSS!! VICTORY!!'


And then the bullshit occured.


wat.

[Chris the great]

well, what you gotta remeber is that its just part one of a story, we dont really know the prince, or his motivies, im sure we will find more next year :p

[Jav_NE]

I liked her alot. She played into the Prince's hands perfectly, putting up with his arrogance and even bantering with him a little. And you do have to interact with her on your own to get to lik eher. If you dont talk to her, or talk and skip then you cant complain that you didn't feel attached. She's awesome, and the ending was very powerful.

[Jimbob]

I'm glad I've been playing this in sections, each after a few weeks. At the start it was lush, by the time I'd got the yellow plate thing and went to the third place I got bored. Turned it off and left it a few weeks. Played it again and was enjoying it. Then got bored again.
Played it again today and the same happened. Shame as it's a wonderful looking game.

I seem to be playing it like you are, a chunk every few weeks. Don't think i've been on this since returning to work. As i've done Fable now, shall get back into this as the next project to beat.

Now then, where was i??

[Choze]

Started. Really like what i have played so far. Lots of nice bits. Expecting the worst.

[Chris the great]

Started. Really like what i have played so far. Lots of nice bits. Expecting the worst.

take it at what it is, a bit of a fun game. yes, its hardly free raomaing, and you rarly need to think, but its a great distraction, a decent story and well presented game.

i can understand why it ges criticism, but truth be told, i enjoyed my time with it. great fun to eb had if you look at it like a popcorn flick such as iron man. its got no real depth but who cares when its got such a passion for fun

[Choze]

take it at what it is, a bit of a fun game. yes, its hardly free raomaing, and you rarly need to think, but its a great distraction, a decent story and well presented game.

i can understand why it ges criticism, but truth be told, i enjoyed my time with it. great fun to eb had if you look at it like a popcorn flick such as iron man. its got no real depth but who cares when its got such a passion for fun

Yeah i like it! Infact i may buy it now :) The game is lovely. I am still not far in but am impressed.

I am not bothering with trophies though. Some people ruined Mirror's edge because they wanted the stupid unarmed trophy...

I like the Elika game mechanics. While you do not die she essentially acts as a checkpoint making the game less frustrating. Alot less frustrating. The platforming genre needs this. Note how people in LBP put loads of checkpoints in their levels.

Can i just add please hide spoilers in future game thread when the game is fairly new.

[Cube]

The platforming genre needs this.

Tomb Raider Legend and Underworld have it. Ignoring the satisfying death scene, it probably takes the same amount of time to "load" the checkpoint.

[EEVILMURRAY]

This game looked very temptedings, but it seems to be getting meh reviews everywhere :( Might end up waiting for price reducings.

[nightwolf]

This game looked very temptedings, but it seems to be getting meh reviews everywhere :( Might end up waiting for price reducings.

I'd say for £15 - you may as well get it. It's a nice enough game, although you may have to deal with repeating alot of things. The storyline is interesting; iffy ending.

The camera work is brilliant and so is the graphics.