Child Porn

[old_gregg]

No. There isn't any here so slow down with that locking Moderaters. :indeed:

What are your thoughts on this, do you think it should be banned or do you like a little bit of three year old pussie every now and again. Personally I think it is sick but I over heard this conversation on the back of the Bus the other day where these young lads were quite openly talkin about likein it and wandered whether anyone else felt the same????

[Mr_Odwin]

There's no discussion on this. It's just wrong.

[mike-zim]

it is sick and wrong. people who do this sort of thing should get the death sentance

[Dawn]

Agreed - there is no discussion, it is clearly and unconditionally wrong.

[Cubechris]

As Odwin said, there should be no disputes on this, as yes it very wrong.
I should hope that who ever posts in this thread has the same opinion.

[old_gregg]

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks this pratice is sicker than a Cat on vasaline.

[old_gregg]

Hey heres a question for you. What do you see Child Porn as? I mean for example in Japen they get little girls (about 8 or 9) to dress up as Manga characters, and don't leave much to the imagination etiher, and then Old men get there photos taken with them often in compriseing positions. That is entirely normal in Japen yet is that not a form of Child abuse as well?

[Cubechris]

I think everybody is going to have simialr replies, so Im thinking there isn't much to discuss here, so this thread can't really have much direction...

[old_gregg]

and you thought people on these boards were into it!?

No, no, no. If you had read the Post you would know that I wasent refering to you guys just what I had heard on the Bus. You see it is hardley a topic you bring up in real life conversation so i had never really heard anyone elses views (other than the media's) on it until then so as most of you on this site are of the same age i just wanted to know whether or not it was just me who found this sick.

Well i blame myself for picking such a controversial topic and thread name

[Shorty]

This is it. I thought emotion threads were bad. We all moaned about milestones. Posting a piece of flash as old as the internet itself got tedious.

But now we've really hit rock bottom.

If I had my way you'd be banned for starting this discussion and this thread would be long gone.

[mike-zim]

This is it. I thought emotion threads were bad. We all moaned about milestones. Posting a piece of flash as old as the internet itself got tedious.

But now we've really hit rock bottom.

If I had my way you'd be banned for starting this discussion and this thread would be long gone.

i disagree with you totally. what ever happened to freedom of speech? it is not like the guy is promoting it.

i think he should be commended for having the balls to post it.

I still say its wrong.

[old_gregg]

This is it. I thought emotion threads were bad. We all moaned about milestones. Posting a piece of flash as old as the internet itself got tedious.

But now we've really hit rock bottom.

If I had my way you'd be banned for starting this discussion and this thread would be long gone.

Well arent you a Feisty one. I know its a bit controversial but that doesent make it any less of a relevent thread then say...welll take your pick. Ban Me, go ahead if you really feel that strongly about it but at the end of the day you've got a problem talking about soething that is really happening, i was asking for your views on it not me and if you think that by posting this thread it makes me bad, well i'm sorry but that is just idioctic cos at the end of the day at least I had the balls to talk about it where as if it was up to you we would just brush it under the already full social carpet and that would be more wrong then any amount of talking about it could ever be.

Edit: Thanks Mike-zim, i was actually writeing this thread whislt you posted yours so i apologise for some of the similar wording.

[Shorty]

I'm sorry this is just not something that I would deem discussion worthy. I used to come on these boards solely to talk about movies, take part in funny competitions and argue over bands. Those things were fun!

Where's the fun in asking whether anyone here likes child porn. I'm sorry the whole topic just makes me sick. I'd expect anyone who looks at it to get locked up for the rest of their life, and anyone who takes the pictures or abuses children in any such way to be... well executed preferably.

I never said the thread should go because it was irrelevant, just because the topic is disgusting.

Incidentally freedom of speech is a myth.

Edit: And what the hell are you talking about "had the balls to post it". It doesn't exactly take mountains of courage to post a topic about anything whatsoever under a pseudonym on an internet message board. If I made a thread about selling children crack or running over puppies I don't think it would make me a hero.

[Pestneb]

I'm guessing
a)the guys were saying it hoping for a reaction, at which point they'd claim the person reacting had misheard them and... wait a second, what are you doing thinking of child porn sicko?
b)you misheard them - in which case why were you thinking of child porn sicko?
c)you misunderstood the conversation
d)they are paedophiles.

most people socially know thats wrong, much like homosexuality used to be, as such they won't speak of it.
It wouldn't surprise me if in a few decades time beastiality and/or paedophilia were as accepted as homosexuality is now.

basically, at the moment you have young children openly having sex (open to the extent it is spoken about in the press, technically not even teens (12 and under) getting pregnant)
next stage will be some point around 2015-2025
at that stage underage sex would be pretty much acceptable, and you will start getting young, but adult, people having sex with younger (under 16) people.
this will be covered in the press.
around 2025-2050 young adults having sex with under 16's will be so common the law will be completly ignored on the issue, if indeed it hasn't been removed.
around 2040-2080 paedophilia will be totally acceptable.

I may be way off on that, but thats the way I see it. It won't be seen as abuse, but recognising the childs rights to experience sex, which everyone will agree is one of the most wonderful and intimate things humans can share with one another.
just so long as the kiddies are taught how to use condoms.

To answer the thread I find women (in general) who are a couple of years younger than me uninteresting, generally only find women remotely interesting (in that way) if they are within a half decade of my age.

[gaggle64]

Definitly no kiddie porn. It's just wrong - wrong, wrong and wrong. As in, totally sick. Although I personally feel we really need to put some serious research into stuff like peadophilia, to find out how this stuff ever gets started, and if it is something we can treat or something.

[system_error]

I think that the abuse of children wether it is physically or in any other form justifies the reestablishing of capital punishment. After all the majority of convicted child molesters do it again after they have been released. So to ensure the future of us (after all I might have children once too)a those people should be banned - banned from life.

Don't get me wrong I am not a fan of the death penalty and in general I believe every human has the right to live but some actions can not be tolerated. Those people give up their granted right in my eyes.

[dukkadukka]

It wouldn't surprise me if in a few decades time beastiality and/or paedophilia were as accepted as homosexuality is now.

it's pretty disgusting for you to make any association between homosexuality and paedophilia. the acceptance of gay people has nothing to do with the moral degradation of modern society, and i'm angry that you'd make such an ignorant comment.

[Mr_Odwin]

It's something that was once seen as morally wrong and is now accepted; it falls in line with the rest of his post fine.

[Dawn]

Interesting points pestneb - I think that some of your comments need some context though - when you say that sex for kiddies is ok if they know how to use condoms, are you thinking that 2 13 year olds experimenting and getting it on is ok as long as they use condoms?

Im guessing you are, in which case yes, I agree, the bit where it gets all wrong is when its abuse, when there is an abuse of power where someone older takes advantage of a younger person who is either powerless physically or not strong enough mentally/emtionally to say no or even appreciate the wrongness of the act.

People should be left innocent for as long as they can be, and if they do want to have a sexual expereince before they are legally meant to do so, it should be with someone of a similar age who is also consenting and it should be done without ignorance of what they are doing.

[dukkadukka]

it's his implication that the acceptance of homosexuality is a negative thing that i have a problem with. i understand that as a mormon you will have different views to me on this, but i found his post pretty offensive. that is all.

[Shino]

This is not a debatable issue, much like you dont ask if killing people is right or wrong, it's just wrong.

child porn = child abuse, = nasty;
{
people who look at it = mentally deranged sick fucks;
japanese people = different to western people
}


So you think that japanese people have the right to do it, just because they're culturaly diferente from us?

[mike-zim]

After all the majority of convicted child molesters do it again after they have been released.

i agree. the problem is that the government are too soft. i am not just talking on topic. they are too soft on every serious crime, rape, murder, armed robery, robery in general and the afor mentioned child abuse. but they instead punish law abiding citizens who refuse to pay inflated council tax prices. spend millions of pound on pointless art ( which will get vandalised anyway).

The problem is that no one will do anything about it. It really annoys me.

[Blackfox]

it's pretty disgusting for you to make any association between homosexuality and paedophilia. the acceptance of gay people has nothing to do with the moral degradation of modern society, and i'm angry that you'd make such an ignorant comment.

Think about both points n their basics:

Homeosexuality is an attraction to the same sex.
Paedophillia is an attraction to younger people.

Really, nothing sperates them in the fact that were are both feelings and preferences. Really, if a person is born with an inclination to younger people then surely that is not their fault - as is if a person is born with homosexual feelings. Paedophillia is a perseption created by modern society as wrong. Is an animal in the wild wrong for mating under the age of 5? Is it peadophillia if its a 60 year old man and a 16 year old girl (or vice versa)?

What im trying to get across is that it is perception in this modern age. Afterall, why can girls become fertile at the age of 12?

Incidently, i think that it is very very wrong, Although there are some points open to discussion which ive just made.

[Athriller]

Think about both points n their basics:

Homeosexuality is an attraction to the same sex.
Paedophillia is an attraction to younger people.



Paedophilia - Exploitation of the uneducated and unwise.
Beastiality - Exploitation of the unaware and unable.

Lovers of the same sex, with all anomalies aside, can consent. They know how they roll.

[Bowser57]

Paedophilia - Exploitation of the uneducated and unwise.
Beastiality - Exploitation of the unaware and unable.

Lovers of the same sex, with all anomalies aside, can consent. They know how they roll.

And at that point all debate ends.

Athriller wins, everyone else shut up.

Even though I was hoping to hear from CVD on the subject.

[mike-zim]

Think about both points n their basics:

Homeosexuality is an attraction to the same sex.
Paedophillia is an attraction to younger people.

Really, nothing sperates them in the fact that were are both feelings and preferences. Really, if a person is born with an inclination to younger people then surely that is not their fault - as is if a person is born with homosexual feelings. Paedophillia is a perseption created by modern society as wrong. Is an animal in the wild wrong for mating under the age of 5? Is it peadophillia if its a 60 year old man and a 16 year old girl (or vice versa)?

What im trying to get across is that it is perception in this modern age. Afterall, why can girls become fertile at the age of 12?

Incidently, i think that it is very very wrong, Although there are some points open to discussion which ive just made.

Well homosexuality though is fine with both parties consenting. but a man or women at the age of say 35, fulfilling their sexaul desires with a child of 5 or six is wrong whether homosexual or "straight". that is the difference the ability to make informed & cohierent decisions. it the same way a 35 year old with an incohierent 75 year old is the same crime in my eyes.

[dukkadukka]

you raise some interesting points blackfox, but i still think the differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality are far smaller than the differences between heterosexuality and paedophilia. perhaps not in the basic mating instinct, or in thought, but when paedophillic urges are acted upon there's the factor of exploitation. gay people and straight people are the same in that there's consent between both partners, when you mix an adult and a child that balance no longer exists.

edit - just realised that in the time it took me to write my post three people have already made my point for me :hehe:

[masaki86]

Basically; at what age do people think paedophilia ends.

*hypothetically asking*

If i was an 18 year old(an adult) and i saw a 13/14 yo I liked; would that be Paedophilia.

How about the same situation, but say I was a 40 year old. Is it the age of the adult that makes the difference here?

*end hypothetical crap*

I myself am 19, and I regularly find girls around 15/16 attractive; is that wrong?

[system_error]

Think about both points n their basics:

Homeosexuality is an attraction to the same sex.
Paedophillia is an attraction to younger people.

Really, nothing sperates them in the fact that were are both feelings and preferences. Really, if a person is born with an inclination to younger people then surely that is not their fault - as is if a person is born with homosexual feelings. Paedophillia is a perseption created by modern society as wrong. Is an animal in the wild wrong for mating under the age of 5? Is it peadophillia if its a 60 year old man and a 16 year old girl (or vice versa)?

What im trying to get across is that it is perception in this modern age. Afterall, why can girls become fertile at the age of 12?

Incidently, i think that it is very very wrong, Although there are some points open to discussion which ive just made.


Do you know that the human mind develops while you grow up? That is why the government has laws. A 5 year old girl is not mature enough to know IF she wants to have sex that is why her parents and the government have to protect her until she is able to do it by herself.
Obviously you lack some fundamental basics about the process of "growing up". Someone at the age of 16 can have sex with whoever he or she wants because they normally KNOW what they do!
But I doubt that a 11 year old girl who is forced to have sex with someone for a bottle of coke knows what is happening to her.
There are definitly no points open for discussion and your argumentation is very one-sided. Just because you find some points for a certain problem doesn't make it any better.

In my opinion there is no excuse, no "disease", nothing which justifies ruining the live of little boys and girls. Once convicted you should only be able to have one last smoke while someone opens the trap door to break your neck.

[Blackfox]

Paedophilia - Exploitation of the uneducated and unwise.
Beastiality - Exploitation of the unaware and unable.

Lovers of the same sex, with all anomalies aside, can consent. They know how they roll.

The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

Dictionary says its not exploitation,s orry to be a smart ass :P

I'd just like to point out im not a kiddy loving gay-basher, i was just opening up this question a little, but yeah - it is a rather sensitive situation.

[mike-zim]

I was 21 when i met my girlfriend she was 16. we are still together 2.5 years later. i would say in those situations it would depend on the individuals.

[system_error]

Here the law says that the legal age for having sex is 14 years but your partner must be under 18. If he is older a court will decide wether the girl was fully aware of what she did or if she has been exploited.

[Pestneb]

it's his implication that the acceptance of homosexuality is a negative thing that i have a problem with. i understand that as a mormon you will have different views to me on this, but i found his post pretty offensive. that is all.

where did I imply that? I was actually being neutral, I was implying it as negative as strongly as I was implying paedophilia is positive.

[Kurtle Squad]

*shudder* It's sick...How could anyone be turned on by it?!?! It's so sick!!

[Jordan]

This doesn't deserve disscussion.
It's very wrong, simple as. Any more of these kind of sick threads. And you'll be a goner. Forum rules! :p
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