Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe

[Strange Cookie]

So, the kat (hah!) is apparently out of the bag.

Mortal Kombat 8 is... Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe (www.worldscollide.com)? :hmm:

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If this were the 1st of April, I'd have laughed. But now... I don't mind a spin-off Ã* la Marvel vs. Capcom, but as the official next instalment of Mortal Kombat? I'm not yet convinced this is a good direction for the MK-franchise. Still, I love to be surprised.

[Cube]

Couldn't this simply be "Mortal Kombat with Batman"?

[Jordan]

Word has it that there will be less blood and no fatalities...

[Mundi]

Word has it that there will be less blood and no fatalities...

So I can´t rip Superman's head off? :(

[LazyBoy]

Ha, am I the only one who thinks this could be awesome?

[Cube]

Ha, am I the only one who thinks this could be awesome?

If it's just Batman, then possibly. If it's the DC Universe than Superman will be in it. So it will be awful.

[flameboy]

Word has it that there will be less blood and no fatalities...

yeah I've heard that as its going to be rated lower to get more people playing and kids etc...

Remember hearing on a podcast with people joking about a cross over they must have known something!

[Solo]

Can anyone source these (toned down, no fatalities, appeal to kids) apparent theories?

[Dante]

GameSpot Preview (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/mortalkombat/news.html?sid=6189513&mode=recent)

You'd think that after 16 years and a bevy of installments, the Mortal Kombat series would have lost its ability to be shocking. The passage of time has seen the game evolve from now humble-looking digitized origins to the sleek, robust 3D models in 2007's Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. The fatalities, which were once a lightning rod of controversy, have grown along with the series and become a key part of the franchise's appeal. The series has become an institution that's managed to change with the times and keep its fans--and this is no mean feat. The downside to that kind of longetivity is that 16 years in the public eye makes it pretty hard to deliver a surprise. Of course, after spending some time with MK series creator Ed Boon, we've seen it's not impossible. The veteran developer dropped more than a few jaws with his announcement of the eighth entry in the series, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. Yep. That's right Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and the MK posse versus Superman, Batman, and familiar faces from the DC universe. And yeah, it's not going to be M-rated. How's that for some curveballs?

Before anyone starts citing this as a sign of the apocalypse, we'll suggest, as fans of the series ourselves, that everyone take a breath and keep an open mind. We were a little leery too but, after spending some time talking to Boon and getting a peek at a few things, we can say that there's a lot going on in MK vs. DCU. Once you get past the shock of the cape and tight set guest-starring in the fighter, you'll find that the game is the most ambitious reboot of the series since Deadly Alliance.

The game's story is still being kept under wraps but, generally speaking, a cataclysmic event causes the DCU and MK universe to start merging. This provides the perfect setup for the game's story mode, which will offer two perspectives on the situation. You'll be able to play through two separate storylines, one from each side, which lay out what the heck is going on. The cataclysm in the story is driven by magic, which is a handy device that is tapped for the gameplay. The mystic elements that run through the story help keep the fighting balanced as it helps make a conflict between Superman, whose only vulnerability is magic, and characters like Sub-Zero and Scorpion, actually make some sense. Boon stressed that balance is going to be a key element for the team to focus on, this time on several other levels. Besides gameplay balance, which we'll touch on in a second, the team is having to be conscious of balancing two sets of fan expectations. MK fans, a passionate and exacting bunch, definitely have some specific expectations on who should be in the roster. At the same time DC fans, an equally passionate bunch who've never really had the benefit of having their beloved characters appear in a very good game, will also have some expectations on who should be in the roster as well. We'll come clean and admit to seeing a lot more of the game's roster than has been announced and can say that there's a good mix of white and dark hats on both sides, as well as some surprises.

The other key element to the game is balancing the game mechanics to ensure the whole experience plays well. As if sweating the roster and story weren't enough, Boon and his ambitious team have opted to revamp the whole fighting system for MK's next gen debut. This has led to a "clean slate" approach that has the team re-examining every aspect of the combat system. While you'll see some hints as to what's going on with the fighting system in the teaser trailer, Boon himself offered us a clearer picture of what's going on. The multiple fighting styles and weapon systems from previous games are out, and a more-visceral, brutal approach to fighting is in. MK vs. DCU will introduce several new elements that the team is hoping will make battles more dynamic. The three major ones that are ready to be discussed are Klose Kombat, Freefall Kombat, and stage interaction. Klose Kombat is a mode you'll initiate which pulls in the camera in close and has its own separate mechanics. Basically, when you initiate the mode you'll be the aggressor and your opponent will be on defense. In this closer view you'll be able to attack your foe's upper body with different types of blows for a set period of time, the exact duration of which is still being ironed out. To keep things fair, your opponent will be able to perform a number of different defensive moves to dodge your attacks, provided they're fast.

Freefall Kombat is another change of pace, tied in part to stage interaction. The mode is another player initiated sequence which is kicked off by you flinging your foe off a stage. Unlike previous games you won't just follow them down or watch yourself drop. Instead the camera willl come in and you'll be able to fight on the way down. You'll have a slightly tweaked set of possible attacks in this mode, much like Klose Kombat. From what we've seen, it appears your big motivation in these sequences is to gain the advantage on the way down and land on your opponent, for an added damage bonus. Part of this mode is tied to the stages, which appear to feature a different basic design than the previous games. The fighting areas will be a bit wider, to support throwing your opponent through walls and, in some cases, much taller, to allow enough time for fighting during freefall. Since these new elements should definitely change the flow of battle, the team is spending a lot of time figuring out the right amount of time for them to last. In addition, the fighting moves of the MK cast are getting an upgrade to let them go toe-to-toe with established and powerful characters like Superman. A more potentially controversial change to the system is the game's fatalities. According to Boon, there will definitely be fatality-like finishing moves, but they may not be called fatalities. After all, it's doubtful that Superman or Batman would be ripping out anyone's spines or hearts. That said, the team is hellbent on pushing the limits to what they can do with the DC characters, so you can expect to see blood and some level of damage accumulate during a fight.

The visuals in the game benefit from a tweaked out Unreal III engine, which has allowed the art team to go to town. Scorpion and Sub-Zero have never looked better thanks to a high level of detail that shows off little touches like the stitching on their costumes. At the same time, the DC characters are looking super sharp. The game's art direction mixes the traditionally dark MK elements with the DC heroes pretty well so far. As we noted, the MK crew is looking the best they ever have. As far as the heroes go, Midway and DC are collaborating on tweaked designs and color palettes for the characters to ensure they fit into the overall look of the game. Comic fans should be pleased to hear that the team is looking at some of the iconic design work from Alex Ross, and other acclaimed artists who've put a distinctive stamp on the DC heroes, as inspiration. From what we've seen, it's paying off, as some of the unrevealed characters look fantastic. As far as the stages go, you can expect to see a mix of Mortal Kombat's traditional "Outworld" environments and iconic DC locales mixed together to serve the game's story.

Based on this first look, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe is going to mix things up in the MK franchise. The DC partnership aside, the changes to the combat system appear to be pretty sweeping and should present a new challenge for veteran players to master. The whole game is an ambitious undertaking and is definitely taking some risks with the series, but that may be exactly what's needed to keep it evolving. We'll be keeping a close eye on Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe in the months leading up to its release on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 later this year.

Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe Trailer (http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe/videos/g-20080417144622312081/v-20080417145329734070)

[Solo]

According to Boon, there will definitely be fatality-like finishing moves, but they may not be called fatalities. After all, it's doubtful that Superman or Batman would be ripping out anyone's spines or hearts. That said, the team is hellbent on pushing the limits to what they can do with the DC characters, so you can expect to see blood and some level of damage accumulate during a fight.

Not good enough.

Could this be the downfall of MK? (cencorship wise)

[ReZourceman]

Hmmmmm.

It could...and I mean COULD be entertaining.

[McPhee]

Batman. Win!

Green Lantern. Win!

The Flash? WTF? (or more to the point, how?)

Superman? Meh.

Wonder Woman? As above.

Green Arrow? Fuckyeah!awesomelyawesomeinthemostawesomewaypossib le! :D

[ReZourceman]

Batman. Win!

Green Lantern. Win!

The Flash? WTF? (or more to the point, how?)

Superman? Meh.

Wonder Woman? As above.

Green Arrow? Fuckyeahawesomelyawesomeinthemostawesomewaypossibl e! :D

Almost 100% accurate, however you need to stick a "zohmifuckingawesweet" next to GL (As long as its not John Stewart)

[Daft]

Just saw the trailer.



Just peed my pants.

[dazzybee]

Two things, really irritating it's not on the Wii, really, really annoying!

And by God will this be awful....actually, scrap my first point!

[Daft]

I don't like the sound of the 3 different types of fighting like Klose Kombat.

And secondly if they use a K in place of a C one more time I'm going to rip someone's spine out through their eye socket.

I think it looks cool but I'll reserve all judgement until I have a play.

[flameboy]

Just watched the trailer looks like it has potential. To be honest MK has traded for far to long on just the fatalities...it needs to offer more to be honest.

[Strange Cookie]

Call me Ol' Mister Cynic, but this gives me a very "Freddy vs. Jason"-feeling.

"Hey, two franchises that don't seem to mean a lot anymore? Let's combine them! Hooray! FTW!"

I agree that the Mortal Kombat was in dire need of a rework or reboot, but I still don't feel this is the way they should go. The more I read about it, the more I feel that way.

I like MK, and love Batman and the like, but to throw them together? I like chocolate and love chicken, but they simply don't mix very well.

[Wesley]

So they're taking a gaming series that lost its' way and a comic company that was always behind and putting them together?

Win, win!

[ReZourceman]

So they're taking a gaming series that lost its' way and a comic company that was always behind and putting them together?

Win, win!

Well to be fair, its not like DC are a failing company. They are behind Marvel in sales but are still successful (and have never gone bankrupt)

.....Its just they can only seem to make good movies once every thoudand millenia....and other bad stuff.

[Mundi]

.....Its just they can only seem to make good movies once every thoudand millenia....and other bad stuff.

It´s more like DC makes a comic movie every other millenia which in most cases ends up being better than most of the crap that has come out the past few years.

[flameboy]

I've been thinking about this and I can't see it as anything other than mediocre...the MK series has needed a revival for ages and doesn't really cut it up against many modern day fighters. Couple that with the DC universe which has seen very few good videogame adaptations and a ton of awful ones it really doesn't bode well.

[ReZourceman]

It´s more like DC makes a comic movie every other millenia which in most cases ends up being better than most of the crap that has come out the past few years.

How so?

Recent entries ; Batman Begins, Superman Returns, Catwoman....

Recent good films ; Batman Begins.

[Mundi]

If you look at the recent comic book movies, there are way more movies based on Marvel comics that are crap then they are DC.
Mostly because movies based on Marvel comics have been shoveled out the past few years but DC comic movies are way more scarce but higher quality (except for cawoman)

[ReZourceman]

If you look at the recent comic book movies, there are way more movies based on Marvel comics that are crap then they are DC.
Mostly because movies based on Marvel comics have been shoveled out the past few years but DC comic movies are way more scarce but higher quality (except for cawoman)

(And Superman Returns)

[Mundi]

I wouldn´t say that Superman returns is a crap movie, borderline good but not crap.

[McPhee]

I thought it was piss poor. It was far too shiny (if you get what i mean?)

Anyhow, there have been some decent DC movies in the past few years. Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, Constantine, The Road To Perdition, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, A History of Violence, The Fountain, Stardust. Ok some would argue that Constantine and LXG were crap but i liked them :)

The future looks pretty good for DC Movies too; The Dark Knight, The Spirit, Watchmen, Justice League, The Man Of Steel, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern all announced!

[flameboy]

I thought it was piss poor. It was far too shiny (if you get what i mean?)

Anyhow, there have been some decent DC movies in the past few years. Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, Constantine, The Road To Perdition, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, A History of Violence, The Fountain, Stardust. Ok some would argue that Constantine and LXG were crap but i liked them :)

The future looks pretty good for DC Movies too; The Dark Knight, The Spirit, Watchmen, Justice League, The Man Of Steel, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern all announced!

Are you for real?

[ReZourceman]

I thought it was piss poor. It was far too shiny (if you get what i mean?)

Anyhow, there have been some decent DC movies in the past few years. Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, Constantine, The Road To Perdition, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, A History of Violence, The Fountain, Stardust. Ok some would argue that Constantine and LXG were crap but i liked them :)

The future looks pretty good for DC Movies too; The Dark Knight, The Spirit, Watchmen, Justice League, The Man Of Steel, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern all announced!

*Counts how many are from the standard DCU*

*Doesnt get passed one*

;)

Although I agree the others are good (Well havnt seen Perdition)

[Mundi]

I thought it was piss poor. It was far too shiny (if you get what i mean?)

Anyhow, there have been some decent DC movies in the past few years. Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, Constantine, The Road To Perdition, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, A History of Violence, The Fountain, Stardust. Ok some would argue that Constantine and LXG were crap but i liked them :)

The future looks pretty good for DC Movies too; The Dark Knight, The Spirit, Watchmen, Justice League, The Man Of Steel, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern all announced!

And the Doom Patrol

[Strange Cookie]

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Couldn't resist, mate. :wink:

[Retro_Link]

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[ReZourceman]

Okay, that image of the Daily Planet building is....well frankly stunning.

[flameboy]

New video over on gametrailers towards the end of this weeks show. Looks incredible what a great couple of years we are going to have with this and DC Universe.

[Pit-Jr]

That looks hot! I love the art style and the current roster so far but after all these years, why does the animation still lean towards being stiff. Must be a trademark Mortal Kombat thing.....

[flameboy]

That looks hot! I love the art style and the current roster so far but after all these years, why does the animation still lean towards being stiff. Must be a trademark Mortal Kombat thing.....

Yeah I get what you mean... But yeah the roster is good and nice to see it is still violent and that fatalities will be there for everyone except the DC heroes.

[Retro_Link]

Gameplay Trailer with commentary:

http://www.gamekyo.com/video12527_mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe-new-commented-trailer.html

[Solo]

More blood please!!

[flameboy]

One thing about the whole Superman issue. Ed Boon says that Superman has two weaknesses Kryptonite which we all know as well as magic and its the magic that they are using woven into the story to explain how superman is weakened. I just wondered if there is any precedent for magic upsetting his powers in the comics? I have never been a follower of superman other than the films.

[McPhee]

One thing about the whole Superman issue. Ed Boon says that Superman has two weaknesses Kryptonite which we all know as well as magic and its the magic that they are using woven into the story to explain how superman is weakened. I just wondered if there is any precedent for magic upsetting his powers in the comics? I have never been a follower of superman other than the films.

From what i remember reading he's not weak against magic, he just reacts to it normally. Basically magic affects him to the same extent that it effects Batman or any other human.

[flameboy]

From what i remember reading he's not weak against magic, he just reacts to it normally. Basically magic affects him to the same extent that it effects Batman or any other human.

Ah right its just the way he said it in the commentary as if its been a plot point in the superman comics.

[flameboy]

New trailer out not that much in the way of new content however;

http://kotaku.com/5039420/midway-releases-new-mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe-teaser

But then comes the announcment of new characters;

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/08/WonderWoman_Render.jpg

Midway announced, in a roundabout way, four more additions to the cast of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe at the Leipzig Games Convention today. After Ed Boon left the stage, having been properly grilled by German personality Oliver Pocher, four images flashed on screen, quickly confirming more of the MK vs. DC line up. On the DC side, Wonder Woman will clash with Deathstroke (aka Deathstroke the Terminator), who joins the short list of known DC Universe bad guys.

On the Mortal Kombat side, two from the original cast return as Raiden and Kano -- both of whom bear a striking resemblance to their Mortal Kombat III versions -- round out the "greatest hits" cast.

[EEVILMURRAY]

Was Wonder Woman in that trailer? It was good to see Scoprion finish The Flash, but I would've preferred it to be Batman just to spite all you Dark Knight bummers here.

What we need is a Marvel V. Capcom release for the Wii, none of that Marvel Super Heroes V. Street Fighter bullshit.

[Retro_Link]

The Joker

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38956.html

[Dante]

The Joker

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38956.html

http://i37.tinypic.com/2h7ih5y.gif

:)

-Final roster was confirmed to be 22 characters, and 1 boss which seems to merge MK and DCU villains...so far confirmed:

From Mortal Kombat:
Liu-Kang
Kitana
Sonya
Jax
Kano
Rayden
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Shang Tsung
---
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From DC Universe:
Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Deathstroke
Green Lantern
Shazam (Captain Marvel)
The Joker
Catwoman
The Flash
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Other characters (from both universes) will be in the story mode.

-Kollector's Editions seems to be packaged in a velvet box, containing: a comic book (drawn by MK co-creator John Tobias), a cell art, a making of DVD, a tshirt and the game. But contents hasn't been officially confirmed..aside the comic book.

[flameboy]

ill defo be getting the Kollectors Edition, if that is true.

[EEVILMURRAY]

I know the Joker is kinda like this, but he's looking insanely queer, not psychotic clown-esque with his prancing.

[flameboy]

I know the Joker is kinda like this, but he's looking insanely queer, not psychotic clown-esque with his prancing.

have to wonder how much that is to distance him from the Dark Knight version...

[Dante]

Story Trailer (http://www.meristation.com/v3/video_player.php?id=cw4905fcfe03000)

[flameboy]

Story Trailer (http://www.meristation.com/v3/video_player.php?id=cw4905fcfe03000)

Just this;

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55630

assume its the same one. Looks awesome, definitly gonna pick this one up...

Wonder why in the game all the characters has yellow shining eyes.

[Retro_Link]

Gametrailers Review - 7.4

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42949.html

[flameboy]

Think I will add this to the list (Mirror's Edge, Dead Space) of games to get next year, just that bit to close to Resistance 2 and Animal Crossing

[Choze]

Added to my rental list. want to check it out. SSF2T is out soon too.

[flameboy]

I really want this but decided Streetfighter 2 HD Remix (namely cos it will be cheaper) will be my fighter of choice this xmas and will get this next year... hopefully will still be able to pick up Kollector's Edition from somewhere.

[Choze]

Got this on rental. surprise surprise its not bad actually. Tired of SF2T already since its downgrade in some ways... In MK VS DC you are missing many MK characters but the gameplay is fun. Graphics are not far from SC4. Definately a more satisfying sequel than Sc4. Worth a checkout imo.

[flameboy]

Got this on rental. surprise surprise its not bad actually. Tired of SF2T already since its downgrade in some ways... In MK VS DC you are missing many MK characters but the gameplay is fun. Graphics are not far from SC4. Definately a more satisfying sequel than Sc4. Worth a checkout imo.

Saw you were playing it yesterday, I am defo going to pick it up at some point..l am glad to hear you are enjoying it.

[MATtheHAT]

This game just seems so meh to me. Its probably a decent fighter an all, but with so many other really good fighters out/coming out......this seems irrelevent.

For now I will stick with Tekken and SSF2THDR, until SF4 comes out. And possibly keep an eye out for SC4 in any bargain bins.

[Choze]

Yeah the game is hardly great in many ways. Graphically its a turd, much like SC4. Sound and animation are quite nice but its repeated often in different characters. No unlockables. Artistically the stages are more interesting than SC4. The fact i am saying this is amazing and shows how far SC has fallen.

Gameplay is actually fun. The over the top nature is also amusing. Its again light on content which seems to be typical of next gen fighters.

Overall its ok but you know this is a game almost anyone can play. Doing the same moves in MKvDC is 10x easier than in Street fighter 4 or HD. This means you can do all the flashy moves.



but with so many other really good fighters out/coming out......this seems irrelevent.

Really good fighters? Aside from Tekken, I dont see any. Capcom are pretty pathetic for the way they handled SF2HD. But i guess hardcore capcom fans are used to buying rereleases no matter how bad. SF4 is just SF in 3d again. Oh look they added a fancy artstyle! Must buy 10/10 etc. What rubbish.

[MATtheHAT]

Yeah the game is hardly great in many ways. Graphically its a turd, much like SC4. Sound and animation are quite nice but its repeated often in different characters. No unlockables. Artistically the stages are more interesting than SC4. The fact i am saying this is amazing and shows how far SC has fallen.

Overall its ok but you know this is a game almost anyone can play. Doing the same moves in MKvDC is 10x easier than in Street fighter 4 or HD. This means you can do all the flashy moves.


Really good fighters? Aside from Tekken, I dont see any. Capcom are pretty pathetic for the way they handled SF2HD. But i guess hardcore capcom fans are used to buying rereleases no matter how bad. SF4 is just SF in 3d again. Oh look they added a fancy artstyle! Must buy 10/10 etc. What rubbish.

I would hardly call Soul Calibur 4 a graphical 'Turd' I have never played it, but from the Video's I have seen and the reviews I have read, it seems the graphics are very good.

I have no problem pulling of special moves in SSF2THDR, games with easy to pull off special moves just become button mashers. Street fighter has always been about the Strategic gameplay, which is why it is still to this day being played competitively. This has just been refined in HD Remix, and the results are fantastic. If you don't like it, then fair enough, but that does not mean Capcom have in any way failed to produce an outstanding fighting game.

Virtual Fighter 5
SSF2THDR
Tekken5 DR Online
Naruto
Soul Calibur 4
DragonBall Z
Fight Night Round 3

All decent fighting games. Is there any room for MK vs DCU? I don't know, maybe for MK fans. But for me, there are better games out or coming out that interest me more.

[flameboy]

Matt can understand the sentiment but for MK fans this is huge its a return to form for the franchise (from what I hear, despite being a massive fan not got it yet! Was on my xmas wishlist did the missus get the hint?) and for DC fans its probably the best game a lot of the characters will appear in for a long time.

From what I gather you are a big SF fan and I think you would feel kinda upset if fans of other series said there wasn't room for the latest version. I actually got SSF2THDR over MK vs DC intially as it was cheaper and its been so hyped whereas MK vs DC has largely been ignored which is a shame.

[Choze]

I would hardly call Soul Calibur 4 a graphical 'Turd' I have never played it, but from the Video's I have seen and the reviews I have read, it seems the graphics are very good.

I have no problem pulling of special moves in SSF2THDR, games with easy to pull off special moves just become button mashers. Street fighter has always been about the Strategic gameplay, which is why it is still to this day being played competitively. This has just been refined in HD Remix, and the results are fantastic. If you don't like it, then fair enough, but that does not mean Capcom have in any way failed to produce an outstanding fighting game.

Virtual Fighter 5
SSF2THDR
Tekken5 DR Online
Naruto
Soul Calibur 4
DragonBall Z
Fight Night Round 3

All decent fighting games. Is there any room for MK vs DCU? I don't know, maybe for MK fans. But for me, there are better games out or coming out that interest me more.

Yeah i agree. Just bitter about SF2THD. People seem to have low standards imo. The remixed gameplay is fine but I hate the added extensive rock music and cheap HD look. SF4 solves that.

MKVDc is hardly amazing but I am mad Namco failed with SC4. Sc4 is certainly the worst in the series. Used to be one of my fave games. I hope they dont mess up Tekken 6 console. It also better not have stupid DLC.

MKVDC is more a rent. Cant see myself owning it yet but more plays required in VS!.

Game runs in sub-HD on PS3 i can confirm.

edit2: I dont mind Sf2THD that much :P

[MATtheHAT]

Matt can understand the sentiment but for MK fans this is huge its a return to form for the franchise (from what I hear, despite being a massive fan not got it yet! Was on my xmas wishlist did the missus get the hint?) and for DC fans its probably the best game a lot of the characters will appear in for a long time.

From what I gather you are a big SF fan and I think you would feel kinda upset if fans of other series said there wasn't room for the latest version. I actually got SSF2THDR over MK vs DC intially as it was cheaper and its been so hyped whereas MK vs DC has largely been ignored which is a shame.

I totally agree mate, I maybe was a bit harsh saying this game was irrelevent. I have never played it, so cannot pass judgement. It probably is a decent fighter, and as you say, its a no brainer for MK or DC fans. I loved Mortal Kombat II, even downloaded it on PSN, so may give this one a rent. (Probably fall in love with the game now you watch lol)

Yeah i agree. Just bitter about SF2THD. People seem to have low standards imo. The remixed gameplay is fine but I hate the added extensive rock music and cheap HD look. SF4 solves that.

MKVDc is hardly amazing but I am mad Namco failed with SC4. Sc4 is certainly the worst in the series. Used to be one of my fave games. I hope they dont mess up Tekken 6 console. It also better not have stupid DLC.

MKVDC is more a rent. Cant see myself owning it yet but more plays required in VS!.

Game runs in sub-HD on PS3 i can confirm.

edit2: I dont mind Sf2THD that much :P

Is Soul Calibur 4 really that bad? I was gonna get this from Play.com, its only £17.99.

[Choze]

£17.99 isnt too bad.

I was super hyped for it. But got tired too quickly.

[flameboy]

I loved SCIV but after pouring hours into it for 2 weeks soon got bored. Worth £17.99 though defo...

[The-chosen-one]

i just bought MK vs DC and totally love it i didn't expect to like this game so much really fun to play and i specially laughed when batman was challenging superman ( if you dont turn Normal i just have to BEAT it out of you )

[flameboy]

Ok so major bumpage. But this game now going for £19.99 in a number of places and I finally picked it up today and it is definitly worth some attention.

The MK series will never the match the likes of Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter and Streetfighter for its levels of finesse. It does however make up for it with a highly charged visceral brutal combo heavy fighting system that can be enjoyed by all.

The controls are easier with moves being pulled off with relative ease Its perhaps not got the level of depth tournament fighters would like but there is still enough in there and the combo system has surprising levels of complexity for those looking for it.

There seems plenty to do with a story mode for each side, a simple arcade mode and a hard as nails Kombo Challenge for each character.

One area I do prefer to Soul Calibur 4 is the damage. In Soul Calibur it had the spectacle of your armour falling off when hit repeatedly. In MK vs DC however your clothes tear and reveal scars and torn skin etc... especially after a bout of klose kombat or freefall...

I would definitly recommend this and whilst I know there is a ton of stuff in the sales at the moment, this is well worth considering getting.

[Letty]

Was expecting this to be pretty much the same as Dreamcast version - but its actually quite fun!!

The story is uncompelling.

[flameboy]

Yeah story kinda suits its purpose for putting together the ludricrous notion that MK and DC characters can fight, but does little else worth note.

[Ryan]

Played it a little, doesn't stand up to Tekken that's for sure, which is probably my most played fighting game. Looking forward to the new Street Fighter.

[Choze]

Exactly. It was not as bad as i thought it would be.

Street fighter is going to be the typical from hashcom. Over promise under deliver. Turbo Hd was such a sham for a HD remake.

[Ryan]

Hashcom? Try Crapcom, it sounds better. It's been a long time since I had a console fighting game, I think Tekken 4 was my last. MK is filling a good void at the moment.

[Diageo]

I played this game at a friends house, and it felt a little low on characters and moves...

[Ryan]

I played this game at a friends house, and it felt a little low on characters and moves...

Definately. It's pretty shallow compared to other fighting games, pretty slow and clunky as far as moves go too.

[Jordan]

Clunky and shallow? Oh hell yes.

But fun? Very much so. They didn't go OTT with violence and stupid additions. This game is about beating the crap out of each other, in a 12+ kind of way.

As many have said, it feels heavy and its no Soul Calibur but its the first MK title i've enjoyed since Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. Great purchase for me.

[Choze]

Yeah i might pick this up on the cheap. Its hardly a bad game and its quite accessible.

Hashcom? Try Crapcom, it sounds better. It's been a long time since I had a console fighting game, I think Tekken 4 was my last. MK is filling a good void at the moment.

Tekken 5 DR on PS3 is most excellent. 4 was kind of weak. Tekken 6 seems pretty nice too. Its no wonder its the only big fighting game franchise left. But they need to be careful with the home conversion. Hopefully going multiplatform does not destroy it like SC or other japanese games.

Street Fighter 4 has the exact same gameplay the last 200 SF games have ever had. Crapcom/ Hashcom indeed.

Still cant believe how badly they messed up Turbo HD. Even other SD games have nicer sprites and animation. Makes me worried for RE5.

[Dante]

Yeah i might pick this up on the cheap. Its hardly a bad game and its quite accessible.



Tekken 5 DR on PS3 is most excellent. 4 was kind of weak. Tekken 6 seems pretty nice too. Its no wonder its the only big fighting game franchise left. But they need to be careful with the home conversion. Hopefully going multiplatform does not destroy it like SC or other japanese games.

Street Fighter 4 has the exact same gameplay the last 200 SF games have ever had. Crapcom/ Hashcom indeed.
CrapCom/Hashcom?
Have you played Street Fighter 4 then?


Still cant believe how badly they messed up Turbo HD. Even other SD games have nicer sprites and animation.

Capcom didnt really make SF2THDR.
Backbone Entertainment did it and UDON Entertainment did the artwork.

David Sirlin, lead designer said (http://www.videogamer.com/news/4-12-2008-10106.html): "I struggled almost every day with that whole project trying to get something done. A real critical hurdle for me was having the rebalanced mode at all. Backbone, they just didn't want to do it at all because it sounded like too much work. Who's going to pay for all this, it's hard enough to ship this game in the first place and, were they going to assign programmers to help me? They didn't want to do that. So they said, 'no, we're not going to do it'. Just flat out no. I pretty much ignored that. I started reading the source code myself, and I'm not a programmer, and I'm certainly not an assembly programmer, so it's complete gibberish to me."

Makes me worried for RE5.
So dont play RE5 then, no one was moaning that RE1,RE2,RE3,RE:CV were the same style pattern.

[Choze]

CrapCom/Hashcom?
Have you played Street Fighter 4 then?


I have. The biggest change is in aesthetics not gameplay. Its still the same old game its always been, hardly the revolution that some are making it out to be. But lets see how it turns out. But from what I can tell people are overly generous towards Crapcom lately.



Capcom didnt really make SF2THDR.
Backbone Entertainment did it and UDON Entertainment did the artwork.

David Sirlin, lead designer said (http://www.videogamer.com/news/4-12-2008-10106.html): "I struggled almost every day with that whole project trying to get something done. A real critical hurdle for me was having the rebalanced mode at all. Backbone, they just didn't want to do it at all because it sounded like too much work. Who's going to pay for all this, it's hard enough to ship this game in the first place and, were they going to assign programmers to help me? They didn't want to do that. So they said, 'no, we're not going to do it'. Just flat out no. I pretty much ignored that. I started reading the source code myself, and I'm not a programmer, and I'm certainly not an assembly programmer, so it's complete gibberish to me."

Capcom are the publisher. The budget ultimately was their responsibility. They had low standards so the developers had to work the best they could.


So dont play RE5 then, no one was moaning that RE1,RE2,RE3,RE:CV were the same style pattern.

Still looking forward to RE5 but i hope they dont mess it up or do something stupid since RE4 was impeccable for its time. Before RE4 many were complaining about RE being stagnant.

With their recent moves. Hashcom is well deserved IMO.

[flameboy]

Clunky and shallow? Oh hell yes.

But fun? Very much so. They didn't go OTT with violence and stupid additions. This game is about beating the crap out of each other, in a 12+ kind of way.

As many have said, it feels heavy and its no Soul Calibur but its the first MK title i've enjoyed since Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. Great purchase for me.

Glad to see somebody who feels the same way as me about this game. Yes it isn't as technical or indepth as the other fighters out recently but it sure as hell is a lot of fun.

[Ryan]

I'm struggling to find the time to complete the story. Are you playing it online?

[flameboy]

I'm struggling to find the time to complete the story. Are you playing it online?

Yeah I have played some online games...not won one yet though! You fancy a match later perhaps?

[Ryan]

Sure. I'm trying to get through Resistance 2 at the moment, I'm taking a small break from my PS3 but I'll add you when I'm back online then we can have a game.