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rokhed00
05-11-2005, 05:20 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000813066433/

Suicide. If reports are true, then Sony is entering the next-generation battle without a central online gaming service. What? Why? Who—

According to OPM (via GamesFirst), online gaming on the PlayStation 3 will be left to the discretion of individual publishers—just like on the PS2. While some may argue that this gives publishers greater freedom to design a unique online experience, it also makes it difficult for Sony to control the quality of that experience. And from a gamer’s standpoint, it’s a real pain in the neck, since each publisher will require its own user account (and possibly fees).

With Microsoft blazing trails, and Nintendo showing promise, it’s hard to believe that Sony is so lackluster about jumpstarting a centralized online service. There’s no doubt that online gaming will be an essential component of next-generation consoles. Both Microsoft and Nintendo appear committed to making that a user-friendly experience. Sony on the other hand, well, it may have just turned its back on us…

Smalldude76
05-11-2005, 05:30 PM
Sometimes Sony does things that amaze me... (http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-11-04)

Stocka
05-11-2005, 05:34 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!
2007 + No online.... risky risky risky :shock:

Andrew
05-11-2005, 05:40 PM
Sony for the lose tbh. I'm liking the Revo's chances even more now, in the next-gen battle.

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 05:40 PM
..........Baka!!!

Stocka
05-11-2005, 05:44 PM
Sony for the lose tbh. I'm liking the Revo's chances even more now, in the next-gen battle.
Indeed, its shaping up perfectly. I hope 360 and Revolution are both successfull. Couldn't give a shit about Sony.

Haver
05-11-2005, 05:48 PM
No, there will be online gaming on the PlayStation next-gen. However, there won't be an infrastructure in the vein of Xbox Live. It'll be down to the developer.

Besides, I know hundreds and hundreds of people who own a PlayStation 2 and maybe three play online.

Smalldude76
05-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Sony for the lose tbh. I'm liking the Revo's chances even more now, in the next-gen battle.

It does have a better chance as it will begin to draw more attention, but its success still ultimately depends on whether or not it is accepted by the general public. All this decision by Sony has done is give people more of a reason to use Nintendo or Microsoft's online service - not the Revolution itself. Consequently, this is more of a reason for more people to start purchasing the Xbox 360 rather than either the Revolution or PS3. The more mature games like MGS and GTA have had delayed releases on the Xbox, and chances are we'll see even more of that next generation as developers begin to search for better, unified online services and the more popular console. I believe we'll see a pretty clean jump of systems with Rockstar.

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 05:55 PM
Besides, I know hundreds and hundreds of people who own a PlayStation 2 and maybe three play online.

That's because the majority are 'casual' gamers and the rest can't be arsed!! :)

It does have a better chance as it will begin to draw more attention, but its success still ultimately depends on whether or not it is accepted by the general public. All this decision by Sony has done is give people more of a reason to use Nintendo or Microsoft's online service - not the Revolution itself. Consequently, this is more of a reason for more people to start purchasing the Xbox 360 rather than either the Revolution or PS3. The more mature games like MGS and GTA have had delayed releases on the Xbox, and chances are we'll see even more of that next generation as developers begin to search for better, unified online services and the more popular console. I believe we'll see a pretty clean jump of systems with Rockstar.

You have to remember that the PS3 is supposedly going to be mega expencive & uses the EVIL Blu Ray

rokhed00
05-11-2005, 05:57 PM
I know hundreds and hundreds of people who own a PlayStation 2 and maybe three play online.


That's because most of the online games are shite, as is the service available.

1UP
05-11-2005, 05:57 PM
No, there will be online gaming on the PlayStation next-gen. However, there won't be an infrastructure in the vein of Xbox Live. It'll be down to the developer.

Besides, I know hundreds and hundreds of people who own a PlayStation 2 and maybe three play online.
But if they had a solid online system that microsoft have done, then much more people who own a ps2 would play online.

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:03 PM
No, I'm pretty sure it's because they don't want to.

rokhed00
05-11-2005, 06:05 PM
Are you turning into Choze?

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:07 PM
No, I'm playing the much-needed Devil's Advocate.

Orwise, these kids be spredin' thar lies, and we gots to have sum orda.

Smalldude76
05-11-2005, 06:16 PM
No, I'm pretty sure it's because they don't want to.

So Sony is saying "Come develop for our expensive, complicated system with shauty online capabilities that you have to make."

It's like a barbeque where everyone brings their own meat (edit - just realised that fits in with the George Forman thing...). It really seems like PS3 is turning into the next N64 where the company is too full of themselves sitting atop their pyramid thinking that nothing can topple them. "We can win without improvements," they holler at their competitors. "You will purchase a more expensive system with more expensive disks!" they inform their audience.

Unless Sony has something big under their sleeves, they're relying on the Playstation name on its own to sell their system. It will probably work to some extent, but their majority will fall quite drastically.

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:20 PM
It's tempting to plot their downfall, but it's best to just let things play out.

Smalldude76
05-11-2005, 06:25 PM
It's tempting to plot their downfall, but it's best to just let things play out.

I do dislike Sony, yes, but their downfall is inevitable this upcoming generation. Will they survive? Most likely. Will their market share fall? Without doubt. Sony's efforts seemed nearly unstoppable at E3, but now they're just falling into a slump while Nintendo reveals their console's many feautres quite slowly, and Microsoft builds up the hype machine for the 360 release.

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:27 PM
We're not really qualified to make such judgements, and there's a lot of wishful thinking there.

rokhed00
05-11-2005, 06:33 PM
We're not really qualified to make such judgements, and there's a lot of wishful thinking there.


No harm in wishing though, and sometimes wishes do come true.

Smalldude76
05-11-2005, 06:33 PM
We're not really qualified to make such judgements, and there's a lot of wishful thinking there.

Please tell me where I can get my degree in common sense, Choze.

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:39 PM
I'm all for wishing, I am an advocate of wishing (just today, I wished that the kettle would hurry up, I didn't have all day), however, wishing should be a discipline that's utilised with humility and an open mind. In addition, wishing should not be portrayed as to constitute fact.

We are not economists, we are enthusiasts.

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 06:45 PM
Don't try to live so wise,
'Cos you will hate yourself in the end.

Haver
05-11-2005, 06:48 PM
Probably, but I'm feeling pretty good right now. It's a little noisy though, isn't it?

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 06:54 PM
Indeed. Whoever said it's like WWIII is right!!

DiemetriX
05-11-2005, 07:08 PM
Don't try to live so wise,
'Cos you will hate yourself in the end.

em... Naruto?



anywayz... Sony are making a fool of them self IMO... maybe they sould skipp a generation.

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 07:13 PM
I was talking to Haver, heheh!!

That Naruto ending's so cool...probably cos it's the only one in English!!

DiemetriX
05-11-2005, 07:45 PM
The english dub has Extremly bad intro music and ending music.

And yeah.. that song rox

Hellfire
06-11-2005, 01:03 AM
I cant help but hate Sony recently so I couldnt care less. Unless PS3 turns out to be awesome.
EDIT
Akeboshi rocks!!

BeerMonkey
06-11-2005, 03:11 PM
the thing is that PS2 was released a good while before the GC and XBOX this gen (over a year it had to get the sales) but with this upcoming console war the PS3 is in a bad postition with nothing new to bring to the plate, a year after the 360, the uglyist console ever made by man, the uglyist sex toy controller made by man, expensive to make games for and poor online....hmm...i dont like sonys chances.

ALL HAIL THE TOASTER

dukkadukka
06-11-2005, 04:53 PM
for frig's sake people, haver is not turning into choze! he's just not quite as willing as a lot of you are to believe "reports" from a little-known website trying to drum up publicity for themselves.

Haver
06-11-2005, 05:02 PM
I thought I remained pretty level-headed.

We're not really qualified to make such judgements, and there's a lot of wishful thinking there.

It's tempting to plot their downfall, but it's best to just let things play out.


We are not economists, we are enthusiasts.

Thanks dukkadukka.

dukkadukka
06-11-2005, 05:14 PM
anytime :kiss:

it'd just that i always forget that this is a nintendo-centric forum, and then threads like this remind me. sounds like another entry for the angry!angry! thread from me then hehe

Ryan
06-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Indeed, its shaping up perfectly. I hope 360 and Revolution are both successfull. Couldn't give a shit about Sony.
I second that..

mario114
07-11-2005, 02:46 PM
Indeed, its shaping up perfectly. I hope 360 and Revolution are both successfull. Couldn't give a shit about Sony.


Same here, i can't be bothered with any thing sony anymore, but i'm not really a fanboy, i like every other company.