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blumeanie.
04-11-2005, 02:44 AM
I have been stretching myself over too many forums lately and it seems that
many people on them are Star Wars fans . I cant go anywhere online without
finding a bunch of Star Wars nuts.

My gripe is that i have seen all of the Star Wars movies except the latest
one but cant find anything great to say about any of them .I find it strange
that they have such a huge fan base for such a crap bunch of movies.

Maybe im missing something that everyone else gets?.

What is it that makes Star Wars so special to a lot of fans?.

Why isnt 2001 a better movie?.

Please admit that its shit , Please ?. :)

SupaFry
04-11-2005, 03:52 AM
Well there is alot of Star Wars fans on the net beacuse people on the net are nerds and nerds like me love Star Wars.

What is it that makes Star Wars so special to a lot of fans?

Well there is nothing special about the new ones there are merely average.

So what the old ones so special? I have no idea they just are.

#1cubeplayer
04-11-2005, 05:07 AM
I hope you don't get flamed too bad.

I'm not much of a Star Wars fan either, but I can see why some people are such devout fans.

killer kirby
04-11-2005, 05:53 AM
yeah i don't understand it either, i only watch it only because it is a tiny bit better then average.

Mike
04-11-2005, 06:04 AM
I quite enjoyed Episode III, but fell asleep halfway through Episode IV, which is the only other one I've tried watching. I don't really see why it's so popular..

Eenuh
04-11-2005, 06:35 AM
I'm not a fan, but I did really enjoy Episode IV, V and VI. Loved them when I saw them as a kid and I saw them all again this summer and I still liked them. Episode I and II were really not that good (dare I say that they were bad?), yet III was good and kept me quite entertained.

Ramar
04-11-2005, 06:55 AM
-Big fan-

I think its the story that won me over.

Hero of Time
04-11-2005, 07:45 AM
-Big fan-

I think its the story that won me over.

I'm not the only one who likes the movies here. :)

Hellfire
04-11-2005, 09:18 AM
Who knows maybe its the whole concept of the force, or maybe the cool sound lightsabers make, but theres no denying that the Star Wars universe is really complex and detailed giving it a lot of depth.

Sexual Chocolate
04-11-2005, 09:28 AM
I think its shit, theres a thing called bandwagons and it just keeps on rolling picking people up on the way.

ViPeR
04-11-2005, 09:41 AM
I think its shit, theres a thing called bandwagons and it just keeps on rolling picking people up on the way.

Or they could, like me, genuinely like the films? I love them all, but saying that i'm easily entertained and don't care too much about acting skills and what not. I for one will stick up for it even if no-one else does. *expects Platty to flame all the doubters :heh:*

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 09:46 AM
I love Starwars, cause as a kid, I never seen anything quite like it. And I always loved space ships and all that stuff.
In fact, I got alot of inspiration from Starwars. And I understand that some people may find it crap, I guess its something you have to grow up with..like Nintendo...

But then I dont get why people like all the modern TV shows...so its just a matter of taste then isnt it n_n.

But yeah if yer a spoiled brat who's never seen anything other than the high tech movie stuff we have today...dont go see the old starwars movies n_n;

Cheapshot
04-11-2005, 09:49 AM
Lucas just went overboard with the computer animation caring little about plot and character development. I've never liked Star Wars, I've watched an old one for half an hour which included the old man from Platty's avator in the worst choreographed fight scene I've ever seen, but at least they tried to tell a story rather than fill the screen with countless explotions all the frickin' time.

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 09:53 AM
Lucas just went overboard with the computer animation caring little about plot and character development. I've never liked Star Wars, I've watched an old one for half an hour which included the old man from Platty's avator in the worst choreographed fight scene I've ever seen.

That I can agree with. Though I still like visual efects n_n I agree they should have focussed more on acting etc. Though the fighting choreography on the Phantom Menace was ace...the one in A new hope was so bad...

BUT, lets not forget those were the old days, and they didnt have as good technology as we have now. But Lucas was way ahead on most film makers there anyway. Though most of his other stuff flopped, Star wars was recieved very very well.

I love the whole idea of making adouble trilogy and starting with the story on Luke etc etc. n_n Thats pretty clever.

Dan Dare
04-11-2005, 10:33 AM
Starwars is like a meal. first it's great but then it goes bad with age till it makes you sick.

saying that, I actually quite like Empire. easily the pinacle of the series as it has the darth vs luke bit which *is* good.

Maxi678
04-11-2005, 10:51 AM
I thought ep 3 was the better of the 3 prequel star wars. I did prefer the original trilogy though, like most of the people i know

mike-zim
04-11-2005, 11:15 AM
I love star wars. i can honestly say that i have enjoyed every single film. it is the classic good vs evil. it has action, comedy, love and death. there are twists in the plot. everything a good film needs. and the special effect in all of them are amazing (if you take into account when the films were made). some people cant get their heads round the concepts. most of the time i put it down to lack of imagination or the fact that i am a dreamer.

Every one is entitled to their oppinion but here is a little fact that the other star wars fans will know but which i think non fans should know. star wars has actually got 9 parts to it. Lucas has said he will never make the last 3. i would just like to see the plots for the last three.

enough said.

Retro_Link
04-11-2005, 11:25 AM
I LOVE all the Star Wars films!

I think i watched the Original Trilogy from quite an early age, so to me then (and because it was years ago) i don't think i noticed that it didn't look all that great. It's was just pretty cool, the lightsaber battles, the space fights.
I also like Episodes I & II (where alot of people don't) because i understand that it's a completely different part of the story (when the conflicts were only JUST beginning), so of course they're going to be different to the later trilogy.

Episode III is my favourite of the lot; and it's kinda changed my opinion on Episodes IV,V,VI, because unfortunately now, I want those films to have the same flare, but they don't;
The lightsaber fights (especially Darth/Obi Wan) are pretty lame, the space fights (apart from Eps.VI Death Star destruction) are lacking. Darth Vader is no longer in the least bit intimidating (scary for kids) because you know all about him and who he is, and Luke is a COMPLETE little winger!
Still love them though!

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 11:26 AM
Every one is entitled to their oppinion but here is a little fact that the other star wars fans will know but which i think non fans should know. star wars has actually got 9 parts to it. Lucas has said he will never make the last 3. i would just like to see the plots for the last three.

enough said.

I consider myself a fan...but are you referring to 3 episodes after the 2 trilogies or the ones in between?

Like Shadows of the empire etc etc?

JonSt
04-11-2005, 11:35 AM
For me, it was the universe that they were set in, i mean who didnt want to have a lightsaber or be a jedi.

Eddage
04-11-2005, 11:43 AM
For me, it was the universe that they were set in, i mean who didnt want to have a lightsaber or be a jedi.

Me, my brother and someone else are dressing up as star wars characters at work for children in need, so I really will get to be a jedi that day! I may post a few pictures after the event has occured!

Oh yeah and I love everything to do with the Star Wars movies, including Episodes I and II, and for me the pinnacle of the saga is Episode III, closely follwed by IV.

Can't remember who mentioned it but the reason behind many of the lightsaber fights being so lacluster in the first triology is because they were extremely heavy, so had to be held with both hands most of the time and that greatly restricted the moves that were available to them!

mike-zim
04-11-2005, 11:53 AM
I consider myself a fan...but are you referring to 3 episodes after the 2 trilogies or the ones in between?

Like Shadows of the empire etc etc?

Well as far as i understand it star wars was one story but when he turned it into a screen play it was massive so the producers told him to cut into more managable chunks. so it was turned into 9 "episodes" he got funding for the middle three because at the time they were the most viable. he has now gone back and made the first 3. but there are another 3 episode that complete the story.

i believe it is something like this

Episodes 1-3. Jedi are powerfull they then fall so that there are only 2 left and the sith have control

Episodes 4-6 Sith aka the empire have control. 1 person left to bring balance back Luke. Empire falls and all rejoice

Episode 7-9 Luke mentors new Jedi to once again bring the peace keepers back to the galaxy and bring balance.

Dan Dare
04-11-2005, 11:59 AM
they couldnt make 7-9 if they wanted to. all the actors are ancient.

mike-zim
04-11-2005, 12:04 PM
it depends on how much further in the timeline the story starts. if luke is old. then it is feasable. but lucas has got alot of stick in the press and from the critics. i dont think he will want to splash out all that cash for another round of slander. he would make the money back but the lack of respect has made him think other wise.

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 12:10 PM
I wouldnt want him to make more Starwars movies anyway. To me its done now..finished..and I'm happy with what I saw...Like with Lord of the Rings...its 3 movies, and yer basically just watching em all to see it end...every story has to end someday.

n_n. Plus, there really arnt any Jedi left..only Luke... and there is no evil anymore...so I dunno...theres no need for more starwars movies now n_n

elniro
04-11-2005, 12:10 PM
I think the movies are pretty good, but not so good to make me a crazy star wars nut lol

old_gregg
04-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Put simply. First three great (4,5,6)
Last three Shit (1,2,3)
Except episode two was good as it 'reveals' a lot of the secreats of episode four.

Hayend Christianson and that little one in episode on e were mis cast. e.g. "are you an angel" line makes me feel sick.

The3rdChildren
04-11-2005, 01:20 PM
I'm hardly obsessed over Star Wars, but I do enjoy it and I do think everyone should view the movies at least once. They're classic cinematic experiences that everyone can warm to and enjoy if they just take it for what it is... a cheesy story about a boy and his dog.

old_gregg
04-11-2005, 01:25 PM
I'm hardly obsessed over Star Wars, but I do enjoy it and I do think everyone should view the movies at least once. They're classic cinematic experiences that everyone can warm to and enjoy if they just take it for what it is... a cheesy story about a boy and his dog.

A boy and his Dog??? Do you mean Chewy...Han was hardly a boy...Doyou mean R2D2...IT WAS Aan android...and that cat in the coner of the room won't stop...oh nO..plaese don't...NO I WASN'T THE CHILD OF WESTCONSTENTINE...ARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Ashley
04-11-2005, 01:28 PM
I don't mind Star Wars, I've watched all six and they're okay but I don't see the jazz. The stories aren't anything new (see, this is where Media Studies ruins your viewing) they're just nicely done rehashes of older stories. To be frank, if R2D2 wasn't in it I doubt I'd have much interest at all.

Now Serenity, that's a top quality sci-fi film. :P

Shaze_Nab
04-11-2005, 01:34 PM
The only reason I ever liked star wars was because of Darth Vader... I mean let's be honest here, luke can get pretty annoying, and don't get my started on all the love storys... Especially the incest in the original trilogy... Kissing like that is still very mild incest!

But Everyone indured episodes I and II so they could see Darth! Then the twist and line that has become amazingly populer 'Luke I am your father'. Sure everyone knows about that now, but back when it was released no one saw it coming... It was the sixth sense of it's day in terms of the twist.

Oli1983uk
04-11-2005, 01:36 PM
The first 3 movies was way ahead of there time! the films are fantansic. Episode 1 and 2 are average but 3 was great it was best out of the new ones!

*Runs and hides while awaiting Platty, I am sure he can sense a disturbance in the force!*

CompSci
04-11-2005, 01:48 PM
heres a basic equation to sum everything up

star wars KOtOR 1 > all star wars movies

Haver
04-11-2005, 01:51 PM
What's not to like? There's robots and swords that are lasers and battles in space and weird planets and little green men and just lots of awesome stuff.

Shorty
04-11-2005, 01:56 PM
The main thing is that when the original movies came out, all the ideas were new and mindblowing. A lot of the things might seem cliche and unoriginal until you realise that they did most of them first.

The3rdChildren
04-11-2005, 02:06 PM
The only reason I ever liked star wars was because of Darth Vader... I mean let's be honest here, luke can get pretty annoying, and don't get my started on all the love storys... Especially the incest in the original trilogy... Kissing like that is still very mild incest!

Incest is best, especially when you don't know you're siblings.

"Yeah, it's my mom's birthday today."
"W-wow.. mine too."
"51, the old gal."
"That is so creepy!"
"... sis? Oh god."

mike-zim
04-11-2005, 02:22 PM
The main thing is that when the original movies came out, all the ideas were new and mindblowing. A lot of the things might seem cliche and unoriginal until you realise that they did most of them first.

i couldn't put it better myself

MonkeyPunch
04-11-2005, 03:24 PM
The old ones are way overrated but reasonably good.

However there's no denying that the newer episodes are really bad. Episodes I, II and III had potential but the performances of the acters is so poor and without soul, it's enough to ruin the films. There are many other reasons why these films are so bad, like the over reliance on CG imagery, bad editing and crap script.

I can understand why people love the old trilogy but the new one is just plain bad. It has nothing to do with taste, it just IS a bad. I know a lot of people like Star Wars, it's really popular, but that doesn't mean the films are actually any good.

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 03:28 PM
I can understand why people love the old trilogy but the new one is just plain bad. It has nothing to do with taste, it just IS a bad. I know a lot of people like Star Wars, it's really popular, but that doesn't mean the films are actually any good.

nooo it DOES have everything to do with taste. You cant just claim it IS bad as a fact. Thats yer opinion. And the films are popular because many people liked them...thats what popularity means...MANY PEOPLE LIKING SOMETHING. So they found it was good. There see.

Something cant be that popular if its bad...its all a matter of opinion

MonkeyPunch
04-11-2005, 03:40 PM
Something cant be that popular if its bad...its all a matter of opinion

Oh yes a film can be bad, even if it's really popular.
Most people don't even know what makes a film good or bad anyway.

mike-zim
04-11-2005, 03:51 PM
Oh yes a film can be bad, even if it's really popular.
Most people don't even know what makes a film good or bad anyway.
i disagree. if there is at least one person in the world who thinks a film is good then i cant be bad. it can be in your opinion. there is no good or bad when it comes to films they just are.

if i think a film is good or bad it doesnt matter because someone else will disagree.

mario114
04-11-2005, 03:56 PM
I liked it when i was younger but now it just seems dull, the old films are neat but the new ones kinda suck. Some of the games are ok i guess, i'm no big fan or nothing but i do have a box of the fugures from when i was about 12 or something.

MonkeyPunch
04-11-2005, 04:19 PM
i disagree. if there is at least one person in the world who thinks a film is good then i cant be bad. it can be in your opinion. there is no good or bad when it comes to films they just are.

if i think a film is good or bad it doesnt matter because someone else will disagree.

No I don't think so.
I think films can be judged good or bad, just like many other things.
You can like for example a new car just by the way it looks but if after two weeks the engine blows up, the tires have worn down completely and the paint comes off it can't be a good car.
It's same thing with films but people just don't realise how bad some are. It doesn't mean the film can't be enjoyed though.

BeerMonkey
04-11-2005, 04:35 PM
the only people that dont like episode 3 are people who havent seen the movie for themselves.
episode 3 is ALOT better then 1 + 2 and dare i say better than 4,5 and 6

Ashley
04-11-2005, 04:47 PM
The main thing is that when the original movies came out, all the ideas were new and mindblowing. A lot of the things might seem cliche and unoriginal until you realise that they did most of them first.

Star Wars was never original, its based upon other stories. This website explores possible inspirations: http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/index.html I'm not sitting around going "Grr Lucas stole all his ideas!" because im aware postmodernism is in full swing and that its impossible to create new stories, or maybe its possible but it wont be marketable. Even the creatures and that have origins within real world creatures. Nothings original any more (nor was it in the 70s before someone becomes pinickety).

the only people that dont like episode 3 are people who havent seen the movie for themselves.
episode 3 is ALOT better then 1 + 2 and dare i say better than 4,5 and 6

I saw episode three and yeah it was better than 1 and 2 but it was flash. Just complete surface over content. Its like he sat down and said "Big fight scenes, fast camera work, pretty lava and more!!" its just so glossy and full of itself. Even though the originals were utopian there was still some dystopic elements, such as the Millenium Falcon's dodginess. In 3 (and maybe 1 and 2, cant remember them that well) it was all utopic. Things worked well, and they were quick and useful and handy and gah. Sci-fi is at its best when its dystopic.

Kurtle Squad
04-11-2005, 07:35 PM
I was raised on the original 3 Star Wars as a kid. They're cool. A lot of the backstories of Star Wars are what make it cool. Videogames/Comics etc.

I liked Episode III, but it made Darth Vader seem like a bit of a dick. He didn't quite 'transorm' right from Anakin.

Retro_Link
04-11-2005, 07:56 PM
He didn't quite 'transorm' right from Anakin.I thought the way they portrayed it was fantastic!

No-one when watching Episodes IV,V,VI, would have guessed that Darth Vader (seemingly straightforward evil!) became the way he is, out of Love!

Anakin thought his vision showed Padme suffering and ultimately dying in childbirth and so took the path to the darkside (knowing it was wrong, but all that he could do) in an attempt to save her.
However, he had misinterpreted the vision (as the future is hard to see)! Ultimately it was him choosing the darkside that caused Padme to loose the will to live; and this is what his vision had actually been showing.

It's such a tragic story!! That had he not tried to save her (from what he'd thought he'd seen), she would have been absolutely fine!!

Pure Genios!!

Ray Falling
04-11-2005, 08:06 PM
What I find intreging is that even after he loses Padme and becomes Darth Vader..he chooses to remain loyal to the emperor...you might say he'd have nothing to live for anymore...but yet he chooses to go own...

rizz
04-11-2005, 08:09 PM
I have watched the trilogy about 130+ times, ep1 30-40 times, ep2 about 7 times, ep3 4 times. I would say 3,4,5,6 are pretty awesome.

Fierce_LiNk
04-11-2005, 08:26 PM
It doesn't really matter if the story is original or not. A lot of people grew up with the Star Wars movies and were caught up in the story, the special effects, and the acting. I didn't grow up with it, i watched it only a few years back. But it totally had me hooked. No idea why, it just did. Some people like it, some don't. I think i would have prefered if they kept the whole "how darth vader came to be" a secret, because everyone's expectations for episode 1 were much higher than it could ever be. The imagination is far greater than any film George Lucas could have come up with.

Kurtle Squad
04-11-2005, 08:28 PM
I thought the way they portrayed it was fantastic!

No-one when watching Episodes IV,V,VI, would have guessed that Darth Vader (seemingly straightforward evil!) became the way he is, out of Love!

Anakin thought his vision showed Padme suffering and ultimately dying in childbirth and so took the path to the darkside (knowing it was wrong, but all that he could do) in an attempt to save her.
However, he had misinterpreted the vision (as the future is hard to see)! Ultimately it was him choosing the darkside that caused Padme to loose the will to live; and this is what his vision had actually been showing.

It's such a tragic story!! That had he not tried to save her (from what he'd thought he'd seen), she would have been absolutely fine!!

Pure Genios!!

Yeah, I thought that was portrayed right. I wasn't that part. Maybe my mind is warped by "NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Retro_Link
04-11-2005, 08:45 PM
What I find intreging is that even after he loses Padme and becomes Darth Vader..he chooses to remain loyal to the emperor...you might say he'd have nothing to live for anymore...but yet he chooses to go own...But that's it really; he has nothing else, he's lost the person most important to him and the Emperor is all he's got.
He can't go back to the Jedi after all he's done and had the Emperor not found and restored him he wouldn't have made it, so he may as well just give in, even though he is distraught at all he has done!!

And don't forget that the Emperor has been playing mind games with Anakin all along to get him on his side!!
The final one was lying to Anakin that he had killed Padme when he threw her aside, just so that Anakin would be filled with pain, loose his will and surrender to be by his side (as he has nothing else).
I think i would have prefered if they kept the whole "how darth vader came to be" a secret, because everyone's expectations for episode 1 were much higher than it could ever be. The imagination is far greater than any film George Lucas could have come up with.Good to see you Fierce' !!(maybe i've just missed you when you've been on!)

Whilst the actual story behind him becoming Darth Vader wasn't known; I think it was known that it was due to a fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan. I definately knew long ago that Darth Vader needed his suit because he'd had a run in with lava. Whether George Lucas revealed some of Vaders backstory at some stage I don't know, but i heard it all the same and so i guess he wanted to tie the story up for alot of people!

Shenlong
04-11-2005, 08:50 PM
Goddamn Jar jar binks the punk, only thing of the entire star wars series that i hate....i wanted anakin to cut him up nice and properly at the end of episode 3. But my mate says hes not really meant to be in it...i dunno what he means by that but i'll take his word for it, i loved episode 3, it was so great except for the 'noooooooooo!' bit, episode 1 and 2 didnt compare although 2 was better then 1 - i felt so depressed after watching 1 that was £5.25 down the drain (yeah our local cinema is a bump its so not worth that, no leg space lame seats etc etc but this thread isnt for ranting about your local cinema)

Ramar
04-11-2005, 10:00 PM
Episode 7-9 Luke mentors new Jedi to once again bring the peace keepers back to the galaxy and bring balance

Where do the Yuuzhan Vong fit into that?.. Although Luke is meant to establish the New Republic, I thought before that Luke had to turn to a Sith to finally destroy a Palpatine clone. And not to mention the years of fighting after Return of the Jedi (destroying the reamining Imperial Forces and Admiral Thrawn).

Retro_Link
04-11-2005, 10:16 PM
I thought before that Luke had to turn to a Sith to finally destroy a Palpatine clone. And not to mention the years of fighting after Return of the Jedi (destroying the reamining Imperial Forces and Admiral Thrawn).Yeah i heard that the Emperor's spirit returns, and Luke actually becomes the Emperors apprentice in order to get close enough to him to ultimately destroy him! However, where he thought he would be strong enough to not get tempted to the dark side, he isn't and falls under the Emperors power! It's then up to Leia to save him; which she does!

Ashley
04-11-2005, 10:58 PM
It's such a tragic story!! That had he not tried to save her (from what he'd thought he'd seen), she would have been absolutely fine!!

Pure Genios!!


Romeo and Juliet anyone? Memory of it is slightly rusty but as far as I remember they both killed themselves because they thought the other was dead, and felt they could only live happily together in death. Love killed em both.

I'll stop now, I must seem like such a jerk.

Fierce_LiNk
04-11-2005, 11:00 PM
It really doesn't matter if the story is new or originial or not. It's the way that the events unravel that's important. Anakin's demise to the darkside.

rizz
04-11-2005, 11:03 PM
But when Padmé dies, im sure she tries to say something like 'theres still good in him', or something? Maybe she thought she'd let herself die then had second thoughts but it was too late :P

Still, if she had gone along with Anakin and overthrown the emperor and ruled the galaxy the way they wanted, as in, she wanted democracy. Well, hey, come with me and we'll restore democracy, or you can have a fit, die, and let there be a reign of tyranny for about 20 years.

Ashley
04-11-2005, 11:09 PM
It really doesn't matter if the story is new or originial or not. It's the way that the events unravel that's important. Anakin's demise to the darkside.

Nah I was never that concerned, just like to be awkward. As I said, I'll stop.

Retro_Link
04-11-2005, 11:09 PM
But when Padmé dies, im sure she tries to say something like 'theres still good in him', or something?Anakin/Vader does still have good in him and it shines through when he realises what he's become and that he has a chance to save his son in Episode VI!

rizz
04-11-2005, 11:14 PM
Yeah, I noticed, but it would make the point that she cant let herself die because she thinks he's dead since she acknowledges he's still there.

Platty
05-11-2005, 12:28 AM
I love them all!!

anything and everything to do with star wars j'adore!!

the star wars saga are the greatest movies ever. I grew up watching the original trilogy on video and playing with all the toys and what not. Then when sir lucas decided to go back and do ep I,II & III i was over the moon, i love them, yes yes he may use too much digital cgi but thats what cinema is gonna be all about in a few more years time and they are all awesome especially episode III. some of the acting is a bit suspect but come on its a great movie none the less, all of them are! the story is fantastic you cant deny!

i dont care what all you lot think, in my opinion the star wars saga is the greatest story ever told by film, i love it and love anything to do with it.

*shakes fist at all you non loving star wars people....grrr*

gaggle64
05-11-2005, 01:15 AM
Episodes 4 and 5 were fantastic. Episode 6 was cool, but we could've done without the Ewoks. Episodes 1-3 are all rubbish (except for the pod racing scene).

goron49
05-11-2005, 09:35 AM
Star Wars is huge, it's a huge storyline, there's so many characters, theres so many locations, there's so many alien species. There's just so much in the Star Wars series to know about. There's even alot of politics in Star Wars with the Galactic Empire and there racist attitude.

Kurtle Squad
05-11-2005, 10:11 AM
They're really racist in Starfox too!!!

Star Wars III SO kept reminding me of Starfox Assault. I'd been playing it too much i think!!

Haden
05-11-2005, 10:29 AM
I love Star Wars, grew up with it brought millions of toys talked about it with friends etc. I loved the sense of adventure, the humour, the range of characters, the sense of personality that places had (like mos esiely), the fact that people weren't all black and white (including han solo for a while), lightsaberes, great plot twists. I mean it had it all.

Now the new trilogy retains some of this but it also loses a lot of the personality of the old trilogy. Jar Jar is an abomination and I have no idea what George was thinking, oh wait I do as he told the press that he wanted a comedy charcter based on 30's movies. Nice one Lucas.
The love scenes something that should have been superb are horrific. "I am hoping the kiss you should never have given me won't become a scar" "Your inside my very soul torturing me". That is like Dawsons Creek on crack, with Han and Leia you had derogratory humor but you could tell they were in love. Sadly no great space fights in the new trilogy. The lightsabre fights however are wonerful and I adore the episode 1 fight as well as THE big fight in 3.

So I do like the new trilogy but it has a lot of crap in it, "GET EM R2 GETTT EMMMMMM!" at the start of the new film is sick. But the emperor delivers the best comedy performance ever.

Mace Windu "Your going to die"
Emperor (in the best voice ever) "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU WILL DIEEEEEEEE AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

I love it, anyway orignial trilogy wonderful, new trilogy great and awful. But thats just my opnion kids.

ViPeR
05-11-2005, 10:57 AM
Episode 7-9 Luke mentors new Jedi to once again bring the peace keepers back to the galaxy and bring balance

Where do the Yuuzhan Vong fit into that?.. Although Luke is meant to establish the New Republic, I thought before that Luke had to turn to a Sith to finally destroy a Palpatine clone. And not to mention the years of fighting after Return of the Jedi (destroying the reamining Imperial Forces and Admiral Thrawn).

I think they should make Episodes 7-9 as a cartoon animation in the style of The Clone Wars. That'd be great. That way they could use the actors voices and not them in person, which let's face it, wouldn't work now.

Retro_Link
05-11-2005, 12:43 PM
I think they should make Episodes 7-9 as a cartoon animation in the style of The Clone Wars. That'd be great. That way they could use the actors voices and not them in person, which let's face it, wouldn't work now.GREAT idea!!

I also want to see;
- an Episode 0 film featuring Yoda
- and (although i'm not keen on the idea) Lucas wants to make a TV series i think; which in this case i think should be the Adventures of Han Solo (meeting Chewy, Jaba, Lando, Bounty Hunters etc...)

Atomic Boo
05-11-2005, 04:17 PM
i really like star wars, its a great series, i recently got the DVD of Revenge Of The Sith
and i think it raps all the films up nicely
good battles and plot make it all stunning
but im not a star wars nut

Ramar
05-11-2005, 06:43 PM
GREAT idea!!

I also want to see;
- an Episode 0 film featuring Yoda
- and (although i'm not keen on the idea) Lucas wants to make a TV series i think; which in this case i think should be the Adventures of Han Solo (meeting Chewy, Jaba, Lando, Bounty Hunters etc...)

I believe the series will be the stories of several characters, linking episode III to IV.

I'd like to know more on Boba Fett, he's cool. Thats another thing about Star Wars even the lesser characters are special in their own way.

Platty
05-11-2005, 10:39 PM
yeah if you read some of the books and things about the exteded universe, quite a lot happens between ep III and IV.

obi wan learns that a jedi friend is still alive and in trouble and goes and helps him out meanwhile always hiding away from darth vader which proves a tough chore. Also on the case is boba fett, he has grown up and is kicking arse on his own around the galaxy.

after epVI there are lots of things that could be told. Han and leia get married have 3 kids, one of which they call anakin. Luke starts a new jedi training school on yavin 4, he learns new powers for himself, the emporer has a clone and tries to secretly rebuild the imperial forces. Luke faces him and turns to the darkside for a bit before seeing the light and finally killing of the emporer.

ermm han solo's evil brother comes into it and causes some havok, theres another evil guy of a planet that thinks he is beyond the new republic and again causes loads of crap and of course there is still all the imperial forces and fleet that are left out there whom are lead by another evil man who was possibly once a jedi but gave up on the religion.

there are loads and loads of stuff, of course none is from George Lucas they are from writers who tell there own story in what they would like happen in the star wars saga, they do however get george lucas' thumbs up for them. Lucas has never said he will do 7,8,9 although he probably has enough material to do so now and carry on, it would be awesome.

i would be very happy with an episode 0: chronicles of Yoda. That would be good. Im still unsure about a TV series. It would work as plenty of people would watch it but i dunno if it would take away the magic from the films and turn into crappy poo poo like star trek.

Cube
05-11-2005, 11:10 PM
Isnt there going to be a 3D animated TV series?

Platty
05-11-2005, 11:19 PM
Isnt there going to be a 3D animated TV series?

maybe no one knows, Lucas is staying all shh shh at the moment.

rizz
05-11-2005, 11:30 PM
There's gonna be 3D remakes of all 6 films.

Platty
05-11-2005, 11:52 PM
There's gonna be 3D remakes of all 6 films.

ive not heard about this, source ?

Retro_Link
05-11-2005, 11:54 PM
There's gonna be 3D remakes of all 6 films.I think it may just be the original 3 films, but you could be right!

I also found these Episode 7-9 scripts;

Episode 7;
http://www.starwarssequels.com/
Episode 8;
http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/episode8/plot.html
Episode 9;
http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/episode9/plot.html

Why they say by George Lucas I don't know, because I can't see this is how he imagines the story being told but who knows.

Personally I don't like these stories (though they do work/make good sense);
I prefer the story about Luke falling under the power of the Emperor and then finishing him!
Though both share similarities!

Platty
06-11-2005, 12:28 AM
yeah i doubt they are written by george lucas but they are quite good stories actually. Some things wouldnt work like Luke having a son! Jedi are not allowed to have the sex look what happened to anakin! :P

soag
06-11-2005, 04:48 AM
I just watched episodes 1,2,3 back to back today which was totally awesome :D, and plan to watch 4-6 tomorrow which will be even more awesome.

Star Wars is easily the greatest story ever told, love it to bits and always well nothing can touch it.

Rolf
06-11-2005, 07:57 AM
Jedi are not allowed to have the sexCalling sex 'the sex' makes me laugh a lot more than it probably should.

Cube
06-11-2005, 09:02 AM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050318/325/feho5.html

all 6 films in 3D

Ray Falling
06-11-2005, 09:25 AM
Cool this has now turned into a Starwars Hell yeah! tread n_n.

A minor detail was bothering me. In the episodes 4 5 6 we see the droids r2d2 and c3po. Now I always thought: "the vuc!!! They know all that has happened!!!"

But then in episode 3 they wipe the memory of the droids so they cant remember everything tha has happened. Problem solved.

Now; Chewbacca on the other hand, he was there when Yoda escaped. You might also say he was involved with the Clone war. But he never mentions any of it to Han (who he later works with) or Luke or anyone for that matter 0_0. That kinda frustrates me.
Maybe he just cant really talk whahahahha T_T.

Also, In one of the movies its says Yoda is 800 years old or 700...I think on The Empire strikes Back. but then when he dies in uhm Return of the jedi i think they mention somewere that yoda was 900. But if there was so much time between these episodes...the rest of em would all be dead n_n.

anyway thats just some things I noticed n_n AWWW I loves starwars

Atomic Boo
06-11-2005, 10:59 AM
hehe, i think uve lost it there ray.

Jordan
06-11-2005, 11:15 AM
I demand a sequal to "The Clone Wars" cartoons. Fantastic plot, action, voice acting. It was all there, everything. The fight with the female sith wannabe and Anakin whilst it was raining was... amazing.

*goes and watches it again*

Retro_Link
06-11-2005, 11:19 AM
I demand a sequal to "The Clone Wars" cartoons. Fantastic plot, action, voice acting. It was all there, everything. The fight with the female sith wannabe and Anakin whilst it was raining was... amazing.

*goes and watches it again*There is a second DVD that i think i saw about in the shop on www.starwars.com; not sure when it's out though (or did you already know about this one?)

It's annoying Chewbacca and Yoda don't meet in Episodes 4-6, as they are good friends and would have much to talk about!

Jordan
06-11-2005, 11:28 AM
Yeah, i've seen both volumes. Very good stuff.

Retro_Link
06-11-2005, 11:39 AM
Yeah, i've seen both volumes. Very good stuff.I've got the first series on DVD, am yet to watch it though! Is the second series over here? or did you import it?

Jordan
06-11-2005, 12:51 PM
I imported it, i have a multi regional DVD player :) very handy.

CompSci
06-11-2005, 12:59 PM
does any one know if there gonar be like a 6 film boxset of the star wars saga?, kind of like the LotR special extended edition box set any time soon, becasue the only reason i am holding off from buying the Sw dvd's, is that i know some time soon the willl be a super collectors boxset, its only a matter of time when

so any one any ideas?

Retro_Link
06-11-2005, 01:02 PM
does any one know if there gonar be like a 6 film boxset of the star wars saga?, kind of like the LotR special extended edition box set any time soon, becasue the only reason i am holding off from buying the Sw dvd's, is that i know some time soon the willl be a super collectors boxset, its only a matter of time when

so any one any ideas?It's been talked about, but it's not been confirmed!

I'm waiting for a complete 6 film boxset aswell (though I have 1,2 on DVD and 4,5,6 on video) because it's likely to be the final release of the films and George will have made any final changes that he wants to make.

The3rdChildren
06-11-2005, 01:05 PM
I'm sure we'll see a boxed set of the prequels hopefully designed similarly to the older three's release. I'll buy the movies when that hits those store shelves.

Ray Falling
06-11-2005, 01:50 PM
hehe, i think uve lost it there ray.

no problem n_n I lost alot of things

Eddage
06-11-2005, 03:28 PM
Just finished watching episode 3 on DVD, and the ending always makes me feel so weird and tingly, just ending there with Luke being held in the sunset, love it!

Ramar
06-11-2005, 03:41 PM
yeah i doubt they are written by george lucas but they are quite good stories actually. Some things wouldnt work like Luke having a son! Jedi are not allowed to have the sex look what happened to anakin! :P

In the new republic I believe they are. They need to get some Jedi fast from somewhere, I know Luke has a child with Mara Jade.

Cube
06-11-2005, 03:56 PM
Ive seen part of a remestered scene from episode one. im guessing its for the 6-disk box set.

Watch the "The Chosen One" feature on Episode 3. Theres a part from Episode one with a CGI Yoda saying "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate...leads to suffering"

Retro_Link
06-11-2005, 04:06 PM
Watch the "The Chosen One" feature on Episode 3. Theres a part from Episode one with a CGI Yoda saying "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate...leads to suffering"I'm glad they've made Yoda CGI in Episode 1, he looked out of place when you watch it after Episodes 2 or 3!
Wonder if George will redo Yoda in Episodes 4,5,6? (doubt it)

I like that saying of Yoda's and I think it's cool how that's the exact path Anakin falls down;
Fear (of losing Padme)
leads to anger (towards the Jedi Council for holding him back and for feeling helpless towards Padme),
anger leads to hate (anger has consumed Anakin and he tells Obi-Wan he hates him),
hate leads to suffering (his actions cause him to loose everything that matters to him and live a life of suffering over what he's done!)

syco_link
06-11-2005, 09:54 PM
It so sad when Chewbacca dies :'(

Calza
06-11-2005, 10:03 PM
In the new republic I believe they are. They need to get some Jedi fast from somewhere, I know Luke has a child with Mara Jade.
Yeah cause in the expanded universe luke and marajade have ben skywalker and leia and han have jacen and jania (twins) and anakin solo.
There a bit of Star Wars History :D

Pit-Jr
06-11-2005, 11:19 PM
A bit off topic but i just bought Rogue Leader for 9 bucks, and i must say its the most boring game ive ever played.
Nice graphics though....

Platty
06-11-2005, 11:37 PM
rogue leader is awesome! thats the first game i ever played on the gamecube. love it.

Ramar
07-11-2005, 06:50 AM
rogue leader is awesome! thats the first game i ever played on the gamecube. love it.

Snap!

Its the only game that was bought with the Cube that I still play, only completed it at the beginning of summer, that last mission was giving me helluva lot of trouble.

mike-zim
07-11-2005, 10:46 AM
yeah that is interesting? this is the first i have heard about this.

ViPeR
07-11-2005, 11:51 AM
But then in episode 3 they wipe the memory of the droids so they cant remember everything tha has happened. Problem solved.


Actually they only say C3P0's mind gets erased, not R2D2. I'm guessing why this is how he knows about Obi-Wan, and his whereabouts, in Episode IV.

Kurtle Squad
07-11-2005, 12:24 PM
It so sad when Chewbacca dies :'(

Chewbacca never died....not in the films anyway!!

soag
07-11-2005, 02:37 PM
Chewbacca never died....not in the films anyway!!

chewie does die in the novels :p

such a sad moment :sad:

Ramar
07-11-2005, 04:00 PM
chewie does die in the novels :p

such a sad moment :sad:

He did go in a hardcore fashion.

He saved Anakin Solo, and then got crushed by a moon.

You don't see that happening to He-man.

Retro_Link
07-11-2005, 04:12 PM
Actually they only say C3P0's mind gets erased, not R2D2. I'm guessing why this is how he knows about Obi-Wan, and his whereabouts, in Episode IV.I think he knows that because of the data Leia gave to him; I think his memory was also erased!

Ramar
07-11-2005, 04:16 PM
Nope only C-3PO has his memory erased, seeing how R2-D2 can't communicate with Humans they chose not to. This also explains why R2-D2 knows a lot in the film and C-3PO calls him silly little droid, when really R2-D2 is correct.

Retro_Link
07-11-2005, 04:33 PM
Nope only C-3PO has his memory erased, seeing how R2-D2 can't communicate with Humans they chose not to. This also explains why R2-D2 knows a lot in the film and C-3PO calls him silly little droid, when really R2-D2 is correct.Are you sure? I think what he knows is just down to Leia's information!
What does he know other than Obi Wans location and Leia etc... He doesn't mention anything about Yoda for example, when Luke mentions him.

Ramar
07-11-2005, 04:49 PM
The information Leia gives him is basically to find Obi-Wan and to show him the hologram. R2-D2 is the one who states that Obi-Wan once owned both the droids, which Obi-Wan replies "I don't remember owning any droids" or something like that.

If I remember correctly in Revenge of the Sith, Captain Antilles is told to clean up the droids and whipe the memory of the protocol droid, which would be C-3PO, and not R2-D2.

Retro_Link
07-11-2005, 05:02 PM
The information Leia gives him is basically to find Obi-Wan and to show him the hologram. R2-D2 is the one who states that Obi-Wan once owned both the droids, which Obi-Wan replies "I don't remember owning any droids" or something like that.

If I remember correctly in Revenge of the Sith, Captain Antilles is told to clean up the droids and whipe the memory of the protocol droid, which would be C-3PO, and not R2-D2.OK, guess i need to watch Episode 3 again!
R2 really belonged to Anakin though more than Obi Wan though, and it always puzzled me why Obi Wan says he doesn't remember owning a droid; even though R2 was Anakins, has he just forgotten R2 and C3PO?

Platty
07-11-2005, 08:37 PM
obi wan never owned R2-D2, he was part of the royal engineer astro droids for the queen of naboo's starship. so technically he is still owned by the queen of naboo.

of course R2 started hanging out with the queen at the time (padme) & anakin who of course we then see seems to use R2 as his droid until the end of epIII.

R2-D2 was never Obi Wans. He had R4 as his droid throughout epII who then got destroyed by a buzz droid in EpIII.

Retro_Link
07-11-2005, 10:08 PM
anakin who of course we then see seems to use R2 as his droid until the end of epIII.

R2-D2 was never Obi Wans. He had R4 as his droid throughout epII who then got destroyed by a buzz droid in EpIII.Exactly! So why does R2 say he once belonged to Obi Wan?
This is why I thought R2's knowledge in Episodes 4,5,6 is just based on what Leia's told him!

Platty
07-11-2005, 11:30 PM
Exactly! So why does R2 say he once belonged to Obi Wan?
This is why I thought R2's knowledge in Episodes 4,5,6 is just based on what Leia's told him!

na R2 knows. He didnt get his memory wiped. It's probably one of the things lucas has overlooked or thought to be not that important and something that people can just forget about it.

or of course it could be R2 being very clever by saying he is already owned so he finds his way to obi wan. or something.

Bowser.Vs.FWNT
08-11-2005, 04:58 AM
Go play Star wars galaxies when they introuduce the new system, Jedi class ahoy!

old_gregg
08-11-2005, 10:09 AM
na R2 knows. He didnt get his memory wiped. It's probably one of the things lucas has overlooked or thought to be not that important and something that people can just forget about it.

or of course it could be R2 being very clever by saying he is already owned so he finds his way to obi wan. or something.

R2 is greta, but what I don't get is in episodes 4,5,6 he can't fly but in then in the prequels George goes and gives him rocket boosters? Whats the deal with that.

Retro_Link
08-11-2005, 10:43 AM
or of course it could be R2 being very clever by saying he is already owned so he finds his way to obi wan. or something.That's what I reckon,
R2 is greta, but what I don't get is in episodes 4,5,6 he can't fly but in then in the prequels George goes and gives him rocket boosters? Whats the deal with that.Yeah, I think the reasoning would just be that over almost 20 years as a service droid between Episodes III and IV, they have simply broken. Or maybe he had them removed because after Episode III he would just be doing more basic duties aboard starships.

Ramar
08-11-2005, 08:47 PM
The real reason is probably because George Lucas couldn't supply the special effects in the original trilogy and he has stated many times that many things would be different had he had todays technology in the 70's.

But ignoring that, I can't think of many times R2-D2 would use the boosters in the film, all the time he's travelling there is no need to hover. His boosters are more than likely just another tool which would've helped his job as an astromech droid.

Platty
08-11-2005, 08:57 PM
exactly what ramar said, there is not a scene R2 relaly needs to use his boosers in ep IV,V,VI... so thats why you dont see them.

but of course the real reason is the special effects to be able to the that wasnt around back in 1977.

old_gregg
09-11-2005, 08:43 AM
exactly what ramar said, there is not a scene R2 relaly needs to use his boosers in ep IV,V,VI... so thats why you dont see them.

but of course the real reason is the special effects to be able to the that wasnt around back in 1977.

Well if i remeber correctly thre is a scene in The Empire Strikes back where there on board a Star Destroyer, i think they were rescuing princess lae, and they neeeded to get this electronic bridge to come across but the controls on their side had been destroyed, couldent R2 have used his boosters then. And what about in the swamp where R2 needs to get from the crahesd x-wing to the shore. He ends up going throguh the swamp but if he had had boosters surely he could have just floated across.

Oh and your point about the special effects. What do you take me for some kind of stupid prescooler of coures i know the tecvhnology wasent around then my point is that when making a prequel you should try and fit it in perfectly with the origional and not go adding stuff like rocket boostres to R2 or giving the Sith double edge lightsabres. and is it just me or do the Naboo star craft seem a lot more advanced than the X-Wings. Also pratically every Droid in the prigionals was dam slow and imobile and then in the Prequels they go and make a whole army of super mobile and dam clever War droids as well as those Destoryer droids which are better than most storm troopers.
My main point is that he should have tried to makr the prequels seem less Tecnological. He could have kept the special effects and if you need an example of how to achive this yopu need look no further than the Star trek 'Spin-off' Enterprise.

Ramar
09-11-2005, 08:50 AM
Well if i remeber correctly thre is a scene in The Empire Strikes back where there on board a Star Destroyer, i think they were rescuing princess lae, and they neeeded to get this electronic bridge to come across but the controls on their side had been destroyed, couldent R2 have used his boosters then. And what about in the swamp where R2 needs to get from the crahesd x-wing to the shore. He ends up going throguh the swamp but if he had had boosters surely he could have just floated across.

Oh and your point about the special effects. What do you take me for some kind of stupid prescooler of coures i know the tecvhnology wasent around then my point is that when making a prequel you should try and fit it in perfectly with the origional and not go adding stuff like rocket boostres to R2 or giving the Sith double edge lightsabres. and is it just me or do the Naboo star craft seem a lot more advanced than the X-Wings. Also pratically every Droid in the prigionals was dam slow and imobile and then in the Prequels they go and make a whole army of super mobile and dam clever War droids as well as those Destoryer droids which are better than most storm troopers.
My main point is that he should have tried to makr the prequels seem less Tecnological. He could have kept the special effects and if you need an example of how to achive this yopu need look no further than the Star trek 'Spin-off' Enterprise.

When R2-D2 was on the X-wing he was moving along the sruface and then gets jogged off, also think about it logically if he used boosters he would've ruined the X-wing, especially if he was any near the fuel tank.

Things in the prequel are more advanced because the galaxy has a good economy, soon after Palpatine creates the Empire, the Galaxy goes into a depression. The rebel alliance barely has funds, hence why the X-wing is lacklustre in looks in comparison to the Naboo Starfighter.

old_gregg
09-11-2005, 09:42 AM
When R2-D2 was on the X-wing he was moving along the sruface and then gets jogged off, also think about it logically if he used boosters he would've ruined the X-wing, especially if he was any near the fuel tank.

Things in the prequel are more advanced because the galaxy has a good economy, soon after Palpatine creates the Empire, the Galaxy goes into a depression. The rebel alliance barely has funds, hence why the X-wing is lacklustre in looks in comparison to the Naboo Starfighter.


Good point well said. That makes sense i suppose but despite the depression the empoere apatr from the Detah star hasent exactly got the best starcraft.All hes got is a few skanky Star destroyers and super star destroyers and the Tie-fighters are soft as shit.

mike-zim
09-11-2005, 09:44 AM
When R2-D2 was on the X-wing he was moving along the sruface and then gets jogged off, also think about it logically if he used boosters he would've ruined the X-wing, especially if he was any near the fuel tank.

Things in the prequel are more advanced because the galaxy has a good economy, soon after Palpatine creates the Empire, the Galaxy goes into a depression. The rebel alliance barely has funds, hence why the X-wing is lacklustre in looks in comparison to the Naboo Starfighter.


that is exactly what i was going to say. a poor man cant buy a porsch. look at the millenium falcon. it was a heap but the best they had.

Ramar
09-11-2005, 10:05 AM
Good point well said. That makes sense i suppose but despite the depression the empoere apatr from the Detah star hasent exactly got the best starcraft.All hes got is a few skanky Star destroyers and super star destroyers and the Tie-fighters are soft as shit.

Star destroyers aren't skanky, like the name states they can destroy stars. They are helluva powerful, the super star destroyer was pretty powerful, but I believe it wasn't fully built and thats why it got destoyed easily.

Tie-fighters are cheap rubbish, they're expendable, fast, one man ships. The Empire has enough funds to get loads of them made and lose all of them without any worries. Very much like ants, one is no problem to take down, but as soon as you have a couple of hundred it becomes a harder task.

demonmike04
09-11-2005, 10:25 AM
There's gonna be 3D remakes of all 6 films.
I heard that too from an interview with George lucas when the press were asking him what does he plan to do next.
He mentioned:
The cartoon series (I've never been so dissapointed in my life)
TV Series
Think he mentioned about new games, but whats the suprise there?
And mentioned 3D remakes of the films. But I think its the classic trilogy (Ep 4-6), because why would you want to remake something recent which has already appealed to the current audience, when you could make the old 3 more appealing than it currently is at the moment.

old_gregg
09-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Star destroyers aren't skanky, like the name states they can destroy stars. They are helluva powerful, the super star destroyer was pretty powerful, but I believe it wasn't fully built and thats why it got destoyed easily.

Okay, okay, star destroyers arent skanky but THEY CANNOT DESTROY STARS. So don't go "like the name states" because it simply is not true. The only thing that can destroy plannets (and not fully sized stars) is the Death Star, like when it destroys Tatooine. And what do you mean the super star destroyer got destroyed easiliy??? do you mean the Death Star?, as Super star destroyers were fully built and there were several among the craft that were stopping the rebel fleet from escaping from the Death Star.

Retro_Link
09-11-2005, 12:44 PM
The only thing that can destroy plannets (and not fully sized stars) is the Death Star, like when it destroys Tatooine.It was actually Alderaan (Leia's home planet) that was destroyed, not Tatooine; but you probably just made a mistake!
And what do you mean the super star destroyer got destroyed easiliy??? do you mean the Death Star?, as Super star destroyers were fully built and there were several among the craft that were stopping the rebel fleet from escaping from the Death StarIs Darth Vaders Super Star Destroyer (which is ABSOLUTLEY massive) a regular Super Star Destroyer? because there's only one of that size (his), or is it known as something else?

old_gregg
09-11-2005, 12:50 PM
Is Darth Vaders Super Star Destroyer (which is ABSOLUTLEY massive) a regular Super Star Destroyer? because there's only one of that size (his), or is it known as something else?

No i think that is the Empoerers personnal Galactic Star Destoreyer. There are others its just that there slighltty smaller and obvioulsly less guared and renowned a s the empoerrs one.

Ramar
09-11-2005, 05:46 PM
Several Star Destroyers can take down a sun. Not one on its own, but several have the fire power. The Death Star was the first creation to destroy a planet on its own.

There was only one Super Star Destroyer in the movie, (Episode VI) and it crashed into the Death Star, after an A-wing pilot crashed into the cockpit. There was many Star Destroyers that blocked the Rebel attack on the Death Star.

demonmike04
09-11-2005, 07:25 PM
I heard that too from an interview with George lucas when the press were asking him what does he plan to do next.
He mentioned:
The cartoon series (I've never been so dissapointed in my life)
TV Series
Think he mentioned about new games, but whats the suprise there?
And mentioned 3D remakes of the films. But I think its the classic trilogy (Ep 4-6), because why would you want to remake something recent which has already appealed to the current audience, when you could make the old 3 more appealing than it currently is at the moment.
And for you non-believers I have a source http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/630/630211p1.html
wow, i quoted myself :hehe:

Retro_Link
09-11-2005, 08:37 PM
There was only one Super Star Destroyer in the movie, (Episode VI) and it crashed into the Death Star, after an A-wing pilot crashed into the cockpit. There was many Star Destroyers that blocked the Rebel attack on the Death Star.Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking of; I thought there was only one! Thanks!

Platty
09-11-2005, 11:26 PM
actually the super star destroyer first appears in empire strikes back in the asteroid field i do believe...

it then gets destroyed in return of the jedi by the shield towers getting blown up and then a rebel A-wing getting shot down and crashing into the bridge taking it out meaning the monster of a ship lost all controls and it ends up crashing into the death star.

There is only one Super Star Destroyer which darth vader uses.

there are many many star destroyer's with their admirials in charge.

old_gregg
10-11-2005, 08:12 AM
Several Star Destroyers can take down a sun. Not one on its own, but several have the fire power. The Death Star was the first creation to destroy a planet on its own.

There was only one Super Star Destroyer in the movie, (Episode VI) and it crashed into the Death Star, after an A-wing pilot crashed into the cockpit. There was many Star Destroyers that blocked the Rebel attack on the Death Star.

Its different in the comics. You only need to lok at the third star wars 'Rouge squaderan' game. They draw on tuff from the films and comics. If your talking about the films why would you say that sveral star destroyers can bring down the sun? that appears no where in the film and is just something you think. Of course your entitled to your opinion, just let me have mine,.

Ramar
10-11-2005, 03:20 PM
Its different in the comics. You only need to lok at the third star wars 'Rouge squaderan' game. They draw on tuff from the films and comics. If your talking about the films why would you say that sveral star destroyers can bring down the sun? that appears no where in the film and is just something you think. Of course your entitled to your opinion, just let me have mine,.

Lets look at the naming of ships/craft in the original trilogy. We have the X-wing, because its wings form an X. The Y wing because it looks like a Y, even the B and A wings partly resemble the letters. The Death Star, hmm it does get mistaken for a moon, and brings death to a whole planet. I think you can catch my drift.

And no point in this discussion did I say that you were not entitled to your opinion.

old_gregg
10-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Lets look at the naming of ships/craft in the original trilogy. We have the X-wing, because its wings form an X. The Y wing because it looks like a Y, even the B and A wings partly resemble the letters. The Death Star, hmm it does get mistaken for a moon, and brings death to a whole planet. I think you can catch my drift.

And no point in this discussion did I say that you were not entitled to your opinion.

And at no point did I say you did. Also I made absoloutey no comment about the naming of x-wings or B-wings etc, I am saying that star destroyers cannnot take down stars which is what you previously stated. The Death star has a weapon a thousand times more powerful than any Star destroyer and even all the Star destroyers in the empire could not take down a Star as the Death star can only take down Planets.

I think your point is that if its called the death star it can destroy Stars, well no it would not have been called a Death Plannet now would it?

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Ramar
10-11-2005, 03:45 PM
even all the Star destroyers in the empire could not take down a Star as the Death star can only take down Planets.

I disagree.

And I think we'll leave this line of conversation at that.

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Does anyone else wish when watching Episode III that Anakin just stayed in the council room. I was watching it last night, and I was thinking how well Sidious had played with Anakin's mind and basically tricked him into becoming his apprentice. If Anakin had done the opposite to what Sidious said, the Sith would be destroyed, Anakin would have mostly likely become the most powerful Jedi ever and everything would be merry. Of course the originals would not have existed..

Anakin was just becoming a cool character, then he turns. What a shame.

Kurtle Squad
10-11-2005, 05:15 PM
No one I know likes Anakin

soag
10-11-2005, 05:21 PM
No one I know likes Anakin

Anakin kicked ass :D, easily the best chacter in the prequels not counting episode 1 of course as we all know darth maul ruled that movie.

Kurtle Squad
10-11-2005, 05:29 PM
On the Clone Wars arena battle thing, we used to argue over who had to be Anakin. I usually got to be the random black haried guy^_^

Platty
10-11-2005, 09:28 PM
i disagree with you about the star destroyer thing.

firstly there is no reference anywhere to say that a star destroyer can destroy a planet or star and thats why it is named so... secondly if the star destroyers could destroy a star or planet why on earth did the empire go to all the trouble of building the death star and later on the world devastators ? surely they could have save a lot of time and energy and just let the fleet of star destroyers do it? but they didnt cos the star destroyers cant destroy planets!

a quote from ep IV

HAN: What the...? Aw, we've come out of hyperspace into a meteor
shower. Some kind of asteroid collision. It's not on any of the
charts.

The Wookiee flips off several controls and seems very cool
in the emergency. Luke makes his way into the bouncing
cockpit.

LUKE: What's going on?

HAN: Our position is correct, except...no, Alderaan!

LUKE: What do you mean? Where is it?

HAN: Thats what I'm trying to tell you, kid. It ain't there. It's been
totally blown away.

LUKE: What? How?

Ben moves into the cockpit behind Luke as the ship begins
to settle down.

BEN: Destroyed...by the Empire!

HAN: The entire starfleet couldn't destroy the whole planet. It'd take
a thousand ships with more fire power than I've...

then later on obi wan works it out with this great quote:

"That's no moon, it's a space station!"

end of the day lucas just named them star destroyers cos that is a cool name.

Oli1983uk
10-11-2005, 10:29 PM
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-djdarthvader.html

come across this on another site!

Ramar
11-11-2005, 06:21 AM
HAN: The entire starfleet couldn't destroy the whole planet. It'd take
a thousand ships with more fire power than I've...


That shut me up I suppose.

old_gregg
11-11-2005, 12:11 PM
i disagree with you about the star destroyer thing.

firstly there is no reference anywhere to say that a star destroyer can destroy a planet or star and thats why it is named so... secondly if the star destroyers could destroy a star or planet why on earth did the empire go to all the trouble of building the death star and later on the world devastators ? surely they could have save a lot of time and energy and just let the fleet of star destroyers do it? but they didnt cos the star destroyers cant destroy planets!


I don't Know who that as aimed at so if it wasent me then I apologise in advance. I wasent saying that Star Destroyers could take down planets in fact I was saying they Can't take down plannets.
My point was that the Death Star alone can only take down plannets and even that cannot take down Stars. It was called the Death star rather than the Death Plannet because the latter sounds like a pile of shit mounted on top of a car with no hub caps and a banna for a steering wheel.