"Is It Secret?...Is It Safe?"

[Fierce_LiNk]

I'm hoping/praying that the majority of you realised where this quote was from. If you guessed Bambi, then you're a bluddy idiot and don't deserve to be on this planet. Go back to Mars where you belong!

If you guessed Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, then you chose WISELY.

I just put this film on half an hour ago, out of pure boredom. Extended edition, and once again, I find myself fixated, like I did all those years ago.

This is such a cracking film, and as faithful to the book as they could probably get away with. Still pissed they missed out Tom Bombadill, but you can't have them all.

Let us hear your views on this film. Masterpiece, or Misery?

[Oxigen_Waste]

Masterpiece. Unquestionable. As far as adaptions go, one of the very best.

[Stefkov]

Stunning films. Purely because I'm a sucker for wars, especially with swords and archers.
Havn't read the books, I'm not a book man but I may read them.

[gaggle64]

Fantastic films. Masterpiece though? Belle Ville Rendevous is a masterpiece. The Godfather, Le' Circe de Rouge, Trainspotting, Dr. Strangelove - All these films are masterpieces because they do a lot with with not very much. Lord of The Rings does a lot with a lot. It does it very well I grant you, but still. If you want a Peter Jackson "masterpiece" I'd hold something like The Frighteners over Lord of the Rings any day.

They're certainly better then the books mind.

[Slaggis]

Brilliant Movies. Awesome to watch. I loved seeing them each year at the cinema.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Fantastic films. Masterpiece though? Belle Ville Rendevous is a masterpiece. The Godfather, Le' Circe de Rouge, Trainspotting, Dr. Strangelove - All these films are masterpieces because they do a lot with with not very much. Lord of The Rings does a lot with a lot with a lot. It does it very well I grant you, but still. If you want a Peter Jackson "masterpiece" I'd hold something like The Frighteners over Lord of the Rings any day.

They're certainly better then the books mind.

They ain't better than the books. :shakehead
And as for Peter Jackson's masterpiece... either Heavenly Creatures or Braindead.

[The Bard]

I hate Lord of The Rings. It's just one massive cliche, the books are 1500 pages of pointless, self indulgent excrement. That said, some parts of the films are pretty entertaining, and I quite like them, even though that idiot Jackson doesn't understand the concept of editing.

[Shorty]

It was a great film. I always find it funny to go back to it after watching the other two, because the beginning was so happy and green, and then it all just goes blackest black as the blackest night of evil doom.

[gaggle64]

They ain't better than the books. :shakehead
And as for Peter Jackson's masterpiece... either Heavenly Creatures or Braindead.

The books are just far too thick. The Hobbit is an amazing piece of storytelling, but LoTR just bogs itself down.

And yes, Braindead is amazing. Though I will always consider The Frighteners to be a rather underrated classic.

[Shino]

Every time I watch one of those movies, I get all pumped, and can't stop think about them.

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

The books are just far too thick. The Hobbit is an amazing piece of storytelling, but LoTR just bogs itself down.

And yes, Braindead is amazing. Though I will always consider The Frighteners to be a rather underrated classic.
Bad Taste FTW.

As for the films? After several watchings, you just want to watch the second disc and see all the action, tbh.

[James]

Can't stand the films. They send me to sleep.

[Hellfire]

I hate Lord of The Rings. It's just one massive cliche, the books are 1500 pages of pointless, self indulgent excrement. That said, some parts of the films are pretty entertaining, and I quite like them, even though that idiot Jackson doesn't understand the concept of editing.

GTFO!

Masterpieces, but after seeing the extended editions and all the extras, the work that they went to, the attention to detail everythig, simply bloody amazing. Only rivaled by Star Wars.

[chairdriver]

They are good films, but not THAT good.

They are relatively entertaining, but they are all far too long. To be honest, I'd prefer to watch a lot of other films over them.

[Noodleman]

Really overated, the cinematography is stunning though. Too much of the script is crap though, most of the cringe inducing lines aren't in the books either.

[Konfucius]

I never really got into that LoTR fever. I enjoyed the third film but felt that the other two dragged on far too long.
Also I'm not a big fan of this fantasy mediaeval things.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Can't stand the films. They send me to sleep.

Sleep? I can understand you don't like them, but... sleep?

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[Wesley]

Really good effects, acting, editing, directing and well... everything. Still boring though.

[Dyson]

I just didn't enjoy them as much as everyone said I would.

[Supergrunch]

I really dislike the books... sorry to any fans! :heh:

Anyway, the films aren't too bad, I liked the second most.

[Hellfire]

This thread makes me sad.

[Marshmellow]

Masterpiece. Only thing that lets me down is not long ago I got like some super-special edition set of all three, and now I have no reason to buy it whenever it comes out on hd dvd or blu-ray...

[weeyellowbloke]

I guessed the quote wrong. I thought it was Bambi, I'll be heading off to Mars now. :sad: I actually thought this going to be a film about Marathon Man and torture with dental tools. C'est La Vie.

I'm surprised that there are actually people who don't like the Lord of the Rings films. Sure they are long (don't watch all the extended editions at once, your eyes will bleed and you will die) but as individual films they are gripping visual feasts. Oh well, can't please everyone I guess. What I always find amazing is that they're by the some guy who did Braindead and Bad Taste, which are about as far removed as a monkey from microwave.

[EEVILMURRAY]

Films aren't that great, after watching the first movie I got the book trilogy, see what the book was like with a new copy, since the older ones had pages stuck together by everyone spunking on it.

The books are shit. Simple as.

The movie's aren't that bad, but I wouldn't go out my way to watch them.

[Oxigen_Waste]

The books are shit. Simple as.

One thing is you not liking them... but they're quality is undeniable, if we carry this on, you'll just make a fool out of yourself so...
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[Supergrunch]

One thing is you not liking them... but they're quality is undeniable, if we carry this on, you'll just make a fool out of yourself so...
I'd say that's debatable, though they definitely have some merits.

But I don't want to argue, so continue with your happy thread. :wink:

[Hellfire]

I'd say that's debatable, though they definitely have some merits.

But I don't want to argue, so continue with your happy thread. :wink:

The quality is totally not debatable. The directing, acting, music, cgi, photography, adaptation, every thing has super high quality. The only thing that's debatable is wether you like it or not.

[Oxigen_Waste]

I'd say that's debatable, though they definitely have some merits.

But I don't want to argue, so continue with your happy thread. :wink:


Well, let's be honest: they're the best fantasy books there are. Now, it's also a fact that the classic fantasy genre is pretty hollow in ideas. Good stories, but no implications or second readings.

I'm not saying it's the best book ever written, it's not even close... but it surely is the best classical fantasy work. =D

Now, if you don't like fantasy, that's another story...

[Mike]

Really not my cup of tea. I went to see the first one, and it was one of the most boring experiences I'd ever had a cinema. If I hadn't been wth friends, I definitely would have walked out. I can see why the series is popular, though.

[Jonnas]

I guess I'm another of the folks that didn't love the movies.
They're watchable, but I would've forgotten them easily if it wasn't for the popularity surrounding it. I kinda liked Gollum, but that's it.

[Strider]

LOTR films are great! (Hence my name).

My favourite would have to be the first one, i went to see that twice :D And it even featured the stone ogres from "The Hobbit".

My favourite films :)

[Cube]

The books are fantastic, the films even more so.

The extended editions are even better. Some of the best films ever.

[Tellyn]

Masterpieces, they are my favourite films of all time. I own all of the extended edition DVDs and a hell of a lot of merchandise (like a signed lithograph of the Witch-King). Fantastic direction, great acting, I can't pick a fault with them.

EDIT: Just to mention, Tellyn came from a Lord of the Rings translator and means my name in Gondorian. ;D

[welsh_gamer]

The extended edition's are fantastic, and a brilliant was to pass a boring Sunday afternoon.

Got into LOTR when the Two Towers came out, and saw Return of the King 3 time's at the cinema! On leaving the cinema, the films always made me feel nice and fuzzy inside, and meant that Christmas was just around the corner.

[Kurtle Squad]

I never really got into that LoTR fever. I enjoyed the third film but felt that the other two dragged on far too long.
Also I'm not a big fan of this fantasy mediaeval things.

Wait a second...Don't you have that the wrong way around?!:wtf:



If anyone hasn't seen the extented editions, i suggest you watch them, some parts make a bit more sence, especially for the 3rd film (the only extended, thought really: Unshortened one I've seen)

I was also one of those that wasn't really interested in the films (mainly due to the fact that the hype was as if LOTRs was something new) but that was before I watched them.

Though I haven't read the book it's ashame The Golden Compass is supposed to be a cack book-film.

[The Bard]

Well, let's be honest: they're the best fantasy books there are.

But, they're really badly written. It's like, 80 pages of Sam and Frodo, doing sweet fuck all, and when you've forgotten where the other characters are and what they're doing, it shifts back to them for another 80 pages. It's so unbelievably disjointed, and it just doesn't flow as a story. Tolkien was a linguist, not a novelist, and it shows plain as day. He didn't write the books because he had something to say, he wrote them because he was incredibly vain, he purposely used ridiculously arcane language just to give a false sense of grandeur.

That's just my opinion though, I suppose if you're willing to trudge through the books, they might be entertaining when you turn a blind eye to all of their shortcomings. I don't think anyone can argue that they're any sort of technical achievement so far as novels go.

[The fish]

The books are as The Bard describes them, but the films are truly awesome!

[Fierce_LiNk]

Glad to see a mix of opinions, it's boring when its just a one sided argument. :)

I thought the books were good, but I do find you have to muster up the energy to read them. They're heavy going, purely because a lot is usually going on. At times, it can be boring, I mean there is a lot to read.

Still, they're good books. I did find the films more enjoyable, especially The Two Towers.

[EEVILMURRAY]

One thing is you not liking them... but they're quality is undeniable, if we carry this on, you'll just make a fool out of yourself so...
The quality was wank. It went on unnessecarily spouting bullshit that didn't need to be said. Even covering around 5 pages of Elven lyrics. Wow.

[Roostophe]

I love the films. Got all three extended editions.

I'm intrigued to read the books even though I know they're so fecking long...

[EEVILMURRAY]

I love the films. Got all three extended editions.

I'm intrigued to read the books even though I know they're so fecking long...
If you've managed to sacrifice time for the extended editions, then you're ready for the books. Go get 'em tiger.

[Tphi]

I just put this film on half an hour ago, out of pure boredom. Extended edition, and once again, I find myself fixated, like I did all those years ago.

If you were fixated, how come you were on the forums?! You crazy man Flink.

[chairdriver]

Also, the quote in the title is hardly a famous quote.

In fact, it's very immemorable compared to other quotes in the films, namely:

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

"My precious!"

and that one about taking a step to start a journey.

[The fish]

Also, the quote in the title is hardly a famous quote.

In fact, it's very immemorable compared to other quotes in the films, namely:

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

"My precious!"

and that one about taking a step to start a journey.

My favorite is "we must all make the best use of the time that is given to us". Humanism = win! :D

[Kirkatronics]

personally, i dont like it.
i think its boring,apart from the battle scenes.

but everything IS opinion.
whether they are quality
whether it looks good
whether it is quality writing
and whether you like it
its all opinion.

[Triple_C]

Masterpieces, they are my favourite films of all time. I own all of the extended edition DVDs and a hell of a lot of merchandise (like a signed lithograph of the Witch-King). Fantastic direction, great acting, I can't pick a fault with them.

EDIT: Just to mention, Tellyn came from a Lord of the Rings translator and means my name in Gondorian. ;D

I always thought it was something to do with the site (that never actually happened...) Nintendo TV.
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I love the films. Perhaps too much. I just find the books a bit tedious. I loved the Hobbit though.

[Hellfire]

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Best quote ever.

[ReZourceman]

The first is okay, the second is really not very good, and the third is quite good.

[Daft]

If you think the books are badly written you need your head checked. They are stunning examples of english literature. I've read them twice and I can easily say the second read was vastly better than the first.

...Having said that, I prefer Dune.

On the films, the first is the best, both the norm and the extended. The second one non extended version sucked, the extended version made up for this a bit. The third one was good but the extended version just made it so long a boring. Also unsurprisingly the destroyed, and then shat on, my favorite part of the book, the Mouth of Sauron.

[JonSt]

Love them all dearly, A rare trilogy that actually get's better with every film.

[Mundi]

Only parts of the movie i liked was the epic fight´s parts the rest was just a long walk to me....
And the books found them pretty meh when i read them. The effect his books had on the fantasy genre is hard to deny but i prefer to read other fantasy based books.
I enjoyed reading the main storyline of the Dragonlance books 10 times more

[Hem]

Amazing films. I'm not afraid to admit I shed a tear in some of the ending scenes in the Return of the King.

[Sanchez]

My dad was taught by tolkein's son in university.

[Coolness Bears]

Lord of the Rings are my favourite films. :D

I think they are wonderful, i love the book and the films faithfully adapt it into stunning cinema. The length doesn't bother me and not once did i get bored while watching them. I saw each film twice at the cinema because after seeing it i just wanted to go and experience it all again! :grin:
I have yet to see the extended edition on DVD but hopefully this will further my viewing pleasure. The only problems i had with the films is some of the stuff they omitted from the books like Tom Bombadil but that is a minor niggle and doesn't bother me while watching the first film.

Return of the King is my favorite, followed by the Two Towers and then Fellowship of the Ring. The battle sequences are awesome and each character is perfectly cast. :awesome:

I do like my fantasy and this comes at the top! :yay:

[EEVILMURRAY]

Amazing films. I'm not afraid to admit I shed a tear in some of the ending scenes in the Return of the King.
Yawning that much?

[Tellyn]

Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo; the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end... because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was, when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going... because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding on to, Sam?

Sam: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.


Fantastic quote.

[The Bard]

The great irony of that quote is the fact that the Lord of The Rings actually achieves none of this...it's just a fairytale, except it's 1500 pages and way too laborious.

[Tellyn]

That was a movie quote, not from the book. :heh:

[The Bard]

That was a movie quote, not from the book. :heh:

Either way, it's still Lord of The Rings. Just substitute 1500 pages for 11 hours, and the soporific effect remains intact.

Besides, that quote might have been in the book too :heh:

[Daft]

Have you read LotR Bard? (Serious question, I'm just wondering.)

[The Bard]

Have you read LotR Bard? (Serious question, I'm just wondering.)

Yeah, I don't pass judgement on things I have no experience of, and I stand by everything I said earlier.

[Daft]

Yeah, I don't pass judgement on things I have no experience of, and I stand by everything I said earlier.

Fair nuff.

[Demuwan]

Best Trilogy I've ever seen.

Actually scratch that 2nd best.

INDIANA JONES PWNED!

[The fish]

Yeah, I don't pass judgement on things I have no experience of

God, I wish more people were like you... :indeed:

[The Bard]

God, I wish more people were like you... :indeed:

Do I detect sarcasm? :p. Anyway, I have nothing but time to kill, so I think I might go watch Fellowship tomorrow, see if it's better than I remember.

[McPhee]

I loved the films, don't rate the books though. I found them a chore to read, can't stand it when books are like that. Had the same problem with A Song Of Fire and Ice too, given up on it now!

Personally i much prefer Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time (shame he died in September :() and Raymond E. Feist's Conclave of Shadows. Much easier reads (although Wheel of Time does begin to drag on a bit by book 8, of 13!)

[Dog-amoto]

Don't we have a movies thread?

[Cube]

All we need now is for Peter Jackson and New Line to settle their differences and start working on The Hobbit.

Don't we have a movies thread?

a news thread and a ratings thread. Not a general discussion thread. And some movies deserve their own thread.

[Mr_Odwin]

Also, the quote in the title is hardly a famous quote.


My wife and I say it to each other all the time, so nuuur! It's at least made an impression on me, her and Flinky. An awesome triangle of secret keeping sayings sayers.

[Patch]

All we need now is for Peter Jackson and New Line to settle their differences and start working on The Hobbit.

I had hoped for lots of similar fantasy films to start appearing and none did. The Hobbit, Magician etc...

Isn't he looking at making Tintin with Steven Spielberg now?

[Kurtle Squad]

Also, the quote in the title is hardly a famous quote.

In fact, it's very immemorable compared to other quotes in the films, namely:

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

"My precious!"

and that one about taking a step to start a journey.

Well seeing as though "My precious" has been used time and time again in jokes. That would've been an awful title name.
And "You shall not pass" just sucks*

The titles name is fine, and very recognisable due to the dramatisation behind it.

*"Fly, you fools" is 1000 times cooler

All we need now is for Peter Jackson and New Line to settle their differences and start working on The Hobbit.
I can't really see the Hobbit as a film; and Peter Jackson should keep well away; especially after making a Kong film that's worse than the original.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Also, the quote in the title is hardly a famous quote.

In fact, it's very immemorable compared to other quotes in the films, namely:

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

"My precious!"

and that one about taking a step to start a journey.

As Odders has said, all those are all very overused. If anyone says "You shall not pass!" to me again, I'll eat their lambas bread for elevenses.

Try it out, and act devious or suspicious when you say it. It really is hilarious. :)

If you were fixated, how come you were on the forums?! You crazy man Flink.

Yeah, well, if you're a Red Name, how come you're so smelly?

Ok, you win this time!

[Jimbob]

Awesome movies, even better on a HD-TV and Surround Sound. Books are great, but the movies are better and are true to the books.

[weeyellowbloke]

I always liked "Fool of a Took! Throw yourself in next time, and rid us of your stupidity"

[Cube]

Awesome movies, even better on a HD-TV and Surround Sound. Books are great, but the movies are better and are true to the books.

Pah.

Try it on a HD Projector with surround sound.

[Hem]

Nothing will ever beat experiencing it for the first time on the cinema screen though.

[Tellyn]

True. Whichever HD format LOTR is released on will determine whether I buy BluRay or HD-DVD.

[Portlett]

read the book when I was 8 or 9 and the film lived up to my expectations although I think the could have included scouring of the shire in the extended edition as that was one of the best bits in return of the king.

[Tellyn]

read the book when I was 8 or 9 and the film lived up to my expectations although I think the could have included scouring of the shire in the extended edition as that was one of the best bits in return of the king.

They kind of put that bit into Return of the King with the downfall of Saruman at Orthanc.

[Portlett]

They kind of put that bit into Return of the King with the downfall of Saruman at Orthanc.

yeh but in the book bag end becomes sarumans end because thats where he is killed by wormtongue, and you don't see how the shire becomes fucked whilst everyones away as you do in the book.

[Daft]

Tom Bombadil = WIN and he wasn't in the films.

[Hellfire]

Tom Bombadil = WIN and he wasn't in the films.

Well, if they could make the movie 5 hours long he could in it.

[ReZourceman]

Whos Tombadil?

[Hellfire]

Whos Tombadil?

A guy that Frodo and the gang meet in the old forest, some say he's Iluvatar (God) cause Gandalf and the others refer to him as the "oldest" and he knows everything. He's also married to a hot chick.

[Portlett]

Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow;. Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow

[Coolness Bears]

When Tom held the ring did it have no effect on him? I can't remember? :)