Metroid Prime

[Din]

I'm playing through this amazing game again but this time I'm trying to get 100%. Currently I have 93% and I need 4 missile upgrades to get to 250 and 1 energy tank. Now the I have all the missiles from every area but Chozo Ruins. So I'm going to have to go through there to see what I've missed. I have no idea which energy tank I haven't got so it's that's a bastard!

So I might actually get to see the "proper" ending this time! That's if I can defeat Meta Ridley (grrrrrrrr) again! I hate him.

[EchoDesiato]

It's my favourite Cube game. Every now and then I start up the game to just wander around with no purpose. Meta-Ridley isn't that hard if you understand it's pattern. And good luck getting 100%, every item makes a low humming noise, but you probably already knew that.

[Retro_Link]

This is one of my favourite GC games and Meta Ridley easily goes down as being one of my favourite EVER boss fights, it's just so sool!!

Currently playing the sequel and whilst the storyline is better, i'm not a huge fan of the dark world, i can't wait to get those bits done when i get to them!

I'll need to play through the original again sometime aswell, to get 100%; i got the second ending last time.

[Fierce_LiNk]

It's a great game. The bosses are excellent, even tho some of them are bitches! *looks at meta ridley*

[Din]

Currently playing the sequel and whilst the storyline is better, i'm not a huge fan of the dark world, i can't wait to get those bits done when i get to them!

Echoes is also good but not as good as Prime. I do agree with you about the Dark World as I wasn't as massive fan of it either. But I don't think it spoils the game as it's supposed to be an evil place that you don't want to be. Might start on this next and try for 100%.

I think after playing Prime again it has become my favourite GameCube game.

[darksnowman]

Sorry guys, Im not a huge Metroid fan! Fusions my favourite but thats not really saying a great deal cos I love many a game more than I do it. Hearing you talk of Prime almost makes me wanna go back and play it and see what Ive missed - see if I can discover the joy you find in it. But I know I wont. I got to Meta Ridley and wasnt enthralled. I thought Phendrana was the best locale but it still wasnt great...

[Jordan]

Metroid Prime is probably my 2nd fave 'Cube game. First weirdly enough being Killer7. More to the point, Metroid Prime is an astounding game and so much better than the sequal. I've seen the 100% ending, if you've played Echoes you'll know what to expect.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

It's a great game. The bosses are excellent, even tho some of them are bitches! *looks at meta ridley*
I thought Meta Ridley was easy :eer:

[GoonFace]

Metroid Prime is simply stunning. An outstanidingly good game.

[Chris the great]

prime is hit and miss, its not halo, its not fast paced, its about exploring, aand it excells there. i think in echos the light world was great but the dark world was boring, with out anything of much interest to scan (like trooper logs or the lumineth lore)

[Eddage]

Metroid Prime was fantastic.... but only for the first but in the jungly ruins area, with the massive plant boss, after theat, and to a lesser extent Phendrana (sp) drifts I quickly lost interest in the game - especially once it got into all the high tech research lab areas, oh well still got to see the Meta ridley and Metroid Prime boss fights, which were cool (did Metroid Prime's final form remind anyone else of the Krazoa spirits from Starfox, or is that just me?)

[Ninty 182]

Hey does anyone know where I can find the ending video. I tried my best to complete it 100% yet couldn't do it and have given up hope (Tis annoying when you spend countless hours aiming for one thing and then failing :heh: )

[xino]

Yop the game is good
but too boringi find Echoes much better, Prime is better in a different way
but echoes has more weapons, items and stuff?

[Zelda_Rulez]

This is my faovourite game of this generation. I have finished it about 4-5 times. Especially Sequence Breaking is a lot of fun to do in this game.

I remember when I first fought Meta Ridley. He got me with that quick attack so many times. Luckily I managed to get him with only 4 hp left and no energy tanks left.

Too bad Echoes didn't have the same feeling that Prime did. I just didn't like it as much although it's a good game. The feeling that I was playing something great was just gone. I also didn't like the linearity of Echoes and the key collecting felt a bit weird to me. Although I must try some of the sequence breaking trick in Echoes. I only did the one where you can skip the Sanctuary Fortress keys and screw attack over the locked gate before the boss.

[Din]

Hearing you talk of Prime almost makes me wanna go back and play it and see what Ive missed - see if I can discover the joy you find in it. But I know I wont.
See I didn't like it when I first bought it. I got to Phazon MInes and thought it was too hard and just stopped playing. I went back to it after I saw a video for Echoes and just loved every minute of the game (I started again I finished it this time with 76% I think). I am enjoying the game even more this time around.

Edit: I've just got 100%! Now for Meta Ridley...

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

I have to say, Echoes was awful. It was like an entirely diffrent team made it.

[GoonFace]

Too bad Echoes didn't have the same feeling that Prime did. I just didn't like it as much although it's a good game. The feeling that I was playing something great was just gone. I also didn't like the linearity of Echoes and the key collecting felt a bit weird to me. Although I must try some of the sequence breaking trick in Echoes. I only did the one where you can skip the Sanctuary Fortress keys and screw attack over the locked gate before the boss.
Echoes was never going to be better than MP, simpy because MP was fresh. How many of you had ever played a game like MP before?

[Retro_Link]

(Tis annoying when you spend countless hours aiming for one thing and then failing :heh: )
Yeah i got almost to the end of the game and thought i was on track for 100%; only to find that i hadnt scanned that Metal rotating Flame thrower thing that you have to jump around and destroy, right near the start!!

[Din]

Yeah i got almost to the end of the game and thought i was on track for 100%; only to find that i hadnt scanned that Metal rotating Flame thrower thing that you have to jump around and destroy, right near the start!!
I'm not going for 100% scan just 100 items. I've got about 93% scans.

Bloody Meta Ridley. Just tried him twice there. First time I needed to hit him one more time and I had well over half of my life left but I totally lost it! I couldn't do the dodge jump thing and he kept hitting me every time. Plus he wouldn't open him mouth long enough for me to hit him. So annoying. Second time I thought I would use the wavebuster thing (or whatever it's called) and lost all my missiles so I gave up! Damn him.

My thumb aches.

[Jordan]

Meta Ridley is a piece of cake man! I killed him first time. Then again, i did have 2 other people shouting "TO YOUR LEFT, TO YOUR RIGHT!" at me. Yes i finished it at an uber l33t meet up :)

[Retro_Link]

I'm not going for 100% scan just 100 items. I've got about 93% scans.

Bloody Meta Ridley. Just tried him twice there. First time I needed to hit him one more time and I had well over half of my life left but I totally lost it! I couldn't do the dodge jump thing and he kept hitting me every time. Plus he wouldn't open him mouth long enough for me to hit him. So annoying. Second time I thought I would use the wavebuster thing (or whatever it's called) and lost all my missiles so I gave up! Damn him.

My thumb aches.
You cant get the complete ending without 100% scan and 100% items though can you?

Think i did Meta Ridley on the third try; i found it hard to dodge him aswell at first but then i think i just began to time it better and react to him quicker.

[Girly hiyaz!~ Gamer]

great adventure shooter game, piss poor metroid game.

[Zelda_Rulez]

You cant get the complete ending without 100% scan and 100% items though can you?


You can get the secret ending with only 100% items. 100% scans is not required.

[Din]

Yay! I've completed it! Got the special ending.
Done Meta Ridley 3rd time. Done Metroid Prime 1st time. I really don't think Metroid Prime the boss is difficult.

[Retro_Link]

You can get the secret ending with only 100% items. 100% scans is not required.OK, DID NOT KNOW THAT!!

may have to load it up again sometime and find the remaining missile expansions!!

Yay! I've completed it! Got the special ending.
Done Meta Ridley 3rd time. Done Metroid Prime 1st time. I really don't think Metroid Prime the boss is difficult.I think Metroid Prime took me 4 goes; I could get to his second form everytime, i just hate having to stand in the phazon to attack him whilst getting pelted by space pirates and metroids aswell!!

Congrats though!! WELL DONE!!

[Fierce_LiNk]

great adventure shooter game, piss poor metroid game.

I disagree with that. It's certainly up there as one of the best metroid games, imo.

[GoonFace]

I disagree aswell, it is my second favourite game for the Gamecube and probably one of the best games I have ever played.

[EchoDesiato]

I disagree with that. It's certainly up there as one of the best metroid games, imo.Seconded. I have played all Metroid games and Prime is my favourite. It has everything the 2D Metroid games have in 3D.

[Girly hiyaz!~ Gamer]

Seconded. I have played all Metroid games and Prime is my favourite. It has everything the 2D Metroid games have in 3D.
...like? it had barely anything to do with metroids. it seemed as if Retro just threw some in in the middle of the game and called that thing at the end a metroid.

[EchoDesiato]

...like? it had barely anything to do with metroids. it seemed as if Retro just threw some in in the middle of the game and called that thing at the end a metroid.It has all the gameplay elements from the 2D Metroid games:exploration, morph ball, shooting, huge bosses, platforming, ... It also had the same atmosphere, there's a huge world waiting for you to be seen and secret places to be discovered. The metroids played a big role in the story; Samus discovers space pirate bases on Tallon IV where metroids are being experimented on with Phazon. To me it's not like the metroids where thrown in.

[Zelda_Rulez]

Metroid Prime is my favourite Metroid game. It just transferred everything from the 2D metroids into 3D. The only thing that changed is the first-person perpective. It's comparable to the transfer to 3D of the Zelda series with Ocarina of Time and the Mario series with Super Mario 64.

[Chris the great]

it dosent really need the metroids imo, but thats no reason to disslike the game, i mean, metroid is the serise name, like zelda is the serise name. majoras mask didnt have zelda in for more then a cyut sceene, should it have lost the zelda name? what about links awakning, zelda wasnt even in that at all. its certainly the best metroid game ive played (the origional you unlock feels awful to play, but zero misshion is good) the only metroid games i havent played are super metroid and metroid 2. prime is the best ive played by a good bit, and they all rock.

[RATM_4_EVA]

its sad, i never finished the first one. I was not that far from finishing the game. i had to unlock some door. to get to elete pyrate (i think) whell the last pyrate boss you fight. :p

[Solo]

What I did was print out a list of all the missile and energy expansion locations from gamefaqs, then I ticked 'em off when I got them, sad , but the only way I could get 100%.

Echoes was good, but somehow they expanded upon what made the first one frustrating, and made it even more so. Fighting Dark Samus was cool, but the final boss was shite.

[Dr Kong]

An awesome game realised perfectly in 3D. Can't wait for the third installment. No dark world please!

[Ninty 182]

Too bad Echoes didn't have the same feeling that Prime did. I just didn't like it as much although it's a good game. The feeling that I was playing something great was just gone. I also didn't like the linearity of Echoes and the key collecting felt a bit weird to me.

Yeah i didn't think echoes had the same quality that prime did. The locations were more drab and a lot of it was just collect a go to b collect c go to d etc. especially with the keys.

Having said that I did enjoy it just not as much

[Domstercool]

I think the thing with Metroid Prime 1 and 2 is that the freshness had vanished from the sequel, which made the game less of a "Holy Sweet" effect on you. It was still great but 1 just has that magical originality touch.

[jakeee]

I absolutely loved this game. Like dabookerman said it's the oot of the cube generation. I'm actually trying to make a speed run of it. I try to get 100% in 3 hours (not awesome but good enough to me).

[Din]

...like? it had barely anything to do with metroids. it seemed as if Retro just threw some in in the middle of the game and called that thing at the end a metroid.
I sorry I totally disagree with you. It has everything you want from a Metroid game (as others have mentioned). I really do think it is the best in the whole series. It has been made a perfect transition from 2D to 3D IMO.

[kellett03]

prime was my first metroid game so the first person did not effect me allowing for me to enjoy it alot more. my brother who is a seasoned gamer (and a n00b) he cound not even finish the first space ship part becuase of the first person view. on the other hand it one of the best layout game his gen and my favourite on the cube.

[StrikerSpider]

Retro Studios made a great job in convert a world 2D to a incredible world 3D, with challenge and elements of the Metroid serie. I love Metroid Prime. Is my second metroid game that i like. In my top of preference is Super Metroid.

[Flameblade]

I loved this game, it was amazingly well detailed with just the little things. I just wish people would stop comparing it to Halo, Halo will just end up getting it's feeling hurt.

[xino]

so... what do you all think of
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.:. Dark Samus Ending

to me that was A WASTE
good thing i didn;t even bother collecting all stuff:D

[Retro_Link]

so... what do you all think of
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.:. Dark Samus Ending

to me that was A WASTECheers for the spoiler.......... "mate"!

Use the spoiler boxes next time; they're there for a reason!

[xino]

LOL
wait have you played Metroid Prime 2
never mind
should i delete the message or not:P
:D

[Maxi678]

I'm not a huge Metroid fan, but i do think that Prime and Echoes are two of the greatest games i have ever played besides Ocarina of Time.

I really ought to complete Echoes soon when i get round to playing on the game again. I completed Prime with only 90% of all items and 86% scans. I must try harder to get 100% everything next time

[kav82]

Metroid Prime is easily the zelda oot of the cube generation, everything about it is perfect, the length, the gameplay, the controls, the graphics, the music. its all simply awesome. its my first favourite game on cube and second favourite game ever

My sentiments EXACTLY!

To say it seems the metroids were just thrown-in isn't well-founded!

Did you actually utilise your scan visor much at all?

scanning is how you are "told" the game's storyline and that storyline was great!

What a game, absolutely breathtaking!

[froztyman]

As much as i dislike FPS I decided to give this game a chance since I really like 2d Metroid and many reviews says its more adventure than shooter. I really enjoyed the game until I got to the Phazon mines, I played for a long while and with no save points I was running a little short on energy, no panic but still, then I finally reach this room where something that no visor showed starts shooting at me. I panic and for about two minutes I jump around dodge and I have no idea where to hide, then I die and don´t feel like loading and going through all those rooms again for another hapless try in that death-room.

This was a month ago and I still don´t feel like loading up the game. So much gametime without saving was wasted and I can´t get on with the game. This conflicts with my nerdish dutyful side which wants to beat all the games I own.

Help me! What should I do?

[Shino]

I felt just like you! In the exact same part! But don't worry, what I didn't know was that a room or 2 after there was a save point. So, keep trying.

[gorrit]

I really liked Metroid Prime, it had the isolation mood of the 2D Metroids (or atleast, the NES and SNES ones) and it really felt like you where exploring a Metroid(as in the games) like planet.

[Sméagol]

I wouldn't call it a "perfect" transition from 2 to 3D. Good but not perfect. Most things are there, but the 3D games lack speed. Maybe the 3rd will be different, but I doubt it. What I mean with speed is just how acrobatic Samus is in the 2D games (especially near the end of a game), Samus is just very slow in 3D..

Anyway, I'm also still missing just 2 missile tanks I think. I have everything else (even the scans up 'till then I believe). Maybe people can give me some hints to where the best hidden missiles are located? I forgot which I already have, so I don't think GameFaqs will be much help :D (I'll have to check each location again).
Oh well, I'll go hunt down those last 2 expansions some time.. I turn off the music (allthough that's obviously not the preferred way to play Metroid ;)).

[mcj metroid]

Super metroid is the best one,then comes metroid prime 1,then metroid fusion,then zero mission.then metroid echoes and the that crap hunters!

i never played the orginal and the gameboy one so i didn't include them

[...]

I felt just like you! In the exact same part! But don't worry, what I didn't know was that a room or 2 after there was a save point. So, keep trying.

What part are you talking about? I don't recognize the description he made, of an enemy that no visor shows.... It's been a while since I played the game, but I'll say I had no major problems in finishing it. It's a challenging game (the way it should be), but not as hard as some paint it.

[Blue_Ninja0]

What part are you talking about? I don't recognize the description he made, of an enemy that no visor shows.... It's been a while since I played the game, but I'll say I had no major problems in finishing it. It's a challenging game (the way it should be), but not as hard as some paint it.

Shino was talking about the room that has a dynamo or some electric generator in critial stage. In that same room there's a door that leads to a save point, but i'm not sure if it's unlocked or if you need to beat the invisible drone 1st.
Use the wave beam + missile combo. It will auto-aim to the mini-boss and grant you a win.

[Konfucius]

I wouldn't call it a "perfect" transition from 2 to 3D. Good but not perfect. Most things are there, but the 3D games lack speed.

That's true but I think a fast paced Metroid wouldn't work in 3D, you need a lot of precision in 3D for jumping and such. Now if she was moving fast in first person the levels had to be very big.
But I think the slower pace fits very well for an ego shooter and it gives the feeling of a much more powerful armor because you're pretty slow.

[froztyman]

Shino was talking about the room that has a dynamo or some electric generator in critial stage. In that same room there's a door that leads to a save point, but i'm not sure if it's unlocked or if you need to beat the invisible drone 1st.
Use the wave beam + missile combo. It will auto-aim to the mini-boss and grant you a win.

I finally got around to try again, at first i died before i even got to the elite pirate, but then I backtracked to find two energy tanks i missed and the wavebuster. (thank you gamefaqs). By then I had gotten reaquinted with the controls, worked my way through the Phazon mines, whipped the elite pirates ass, and in the dreaded central dynamo the wavebuster made it laughably easy to destroy that cloaked drone.

I had several tanks left when I went down to get the superbombs. And now I am finally enjoying the game again, I just have to find time to play it in my busy schedule

[Zell]

Playing through Echoes at the moment (for the 4th time :D) and the game never seems to get any less incredible.

[The Bard]

Echoes is beyond amazing. I need to play through it for a 3rd time. The Prime games were two perfectly designed games.

[Tyson]

I always end up getting stuck. But that was a few years ago, so I think I'll try get into it again. Possibly tonight.

[Mikey]

Is Echoes really that good? I've heard people say it's not as good as the first one.

[The Bard]

Is Echoes really that good? I've heard people say it's not as good as the first one.

I like it better :).

[...]

Is Echoes really that good? I've heard people say it's not as good as the first one.

Because the novelty factor isn't there anymore. And the level design is actually a bit more linear than in Prime.
But it's an amazing game nonetheless, everyone should see Sanctuary Fortress, it's beautiful.

[mcj metroid]

By all means play echoes it's brilliant. but you may find it very difficult if you haven't played the first. my other problem with echoes was that the envoirments looked all similiar enough to each other. About the same problem i had with sunshine. i like my fire areas,snow,techno etc

[...]

Curiously enough, I killed all of the 4 main bosses in Echoes in my first go at them. They were all much easier than anything in Prime. Thardus and Omega Pirate from Prime, those killed me a few times. Incredibly, the Boost guardian killed me nearly 10 times, but the main bosses were a breeze.

Also Alpha Blogg (sub-boss) took me 3 attemps and that was a chore because he's the only guy in both games that makes you repeat a rather long portion of the game in order to get to him from the last save station. And to make it all the more sadistic just before you go and fight him you actually end up in the room that has the Save Station... except at this point you can't get to it (you need the gravity boost to reach it from this point of the room). Aaaargh.

[kav82]

My friend in Brighton has my copy of Prime (and Wind Waker and XIII for that matter) and I've his copy of the Zelda bonus disk.

I need to swap back ASAP because I'm REALLY feeling the need to play through Prime once again!

Like I quoted Dabookerman on the previous page: This game was the Ocarina Of Time of the Gamecube!

[Cube]

...

Darn this thread ressurection. Now I have to play through both games again.

[Patch]

Incredibly, the Boost guardian killed me nearly 10 times, but the main bosses were a breeze.

Ah yes, the Boost Guardian on Hard mode. *Shudders* Never again...

[kav82]

Ah yes, the Boost Guardian on Hard mode. *Shudders* Never again...

This is the only part of the game that pisses me off! Feels great beating the bugger though!

[froztyman]

...

Darn this thread ressurection. Now I have to play through both games again.

My bad, I just needed to tell the forum that I´m enjoying the game again after I put it in the bottom of the pile half a year ago...

[Jimbob]

I've only beaten this game 4 times and none of them were at 100%. I might dig out the game and see what i missed out on to get the 100% ending. This is an awesome game mind you.

[Atomic Boo]

Ah yes, the boost ball guardian on hard mode. Even when i did defeat him i still dont really have a proper strategy and not sure how i kill him! I hate the big room you have to go through to get to him, its creepy.

Echoes was not as good bard due to level design, music wasnt as good, ammunition and no ice-beam combo!
and youve made me want to play them through again. dunno if i really want to but oh well

[Zechs Merquise]

Best game of the last generation. I remember how it blew me away at the time, graphically mind blowing, deep gameplay and a great feeling of being stranded on an alien planet.

[Atomic Boo]

Best game of the last generation. I remember how it blew me away at the time, graphically mind blowing, deep gameplay and a great feeling of being stranded on an alien planet.

What's the best game of this Gen then. Can't think of one better than Prime at the moment.

[mcj metroid]

What's the best game of this Gen then. Can't think of one better than Prime at the moment.

he means prime is by your logic is the best this gen game. but it really should be called last gen. Cmon the way i see it this gen is the 360,ps3 and wii

[Zechs Merquise]

he means prime is by your logic is the best this gen game. but it really should be called last gen. Cmon the way i see it this gen is the 360,ps3 and wii

That's what I meant :) For the PS2, XBOX GC generation I would rate Prime as the best game.

For the Wii, PS3, 360 generation I think the best game so far would be Zelda or Gears of War.

[froztyman]

Finally finished it, it took me 3 tries on Omega, 6 on Ridley, but only 2 on Prime. And when I beat it I had 7 Energy Tanks left.

And I found a store that still had Echoes, so I´ll try that as well. Mostly so I can say I played it before Corruption...

[Tyson]

I just started playing Prime again. I got to the mines area, quite far through it, but I only had 36 energy points and I couldn't find a save point. I walked into a room and poison gas started coming out the walls. Complete and utter bastards.

[Atomic Boo]

I just started playing Prime again. I got to the mines area, quite far through it, but I only had 36 energy points and I couldn't find a save point. I walked into a room and poison gas started coming out the walls. Complete and utter bastards.
Lol
QotD
..

[DCK]

Yeah, there are way too few save points in the Phazon Mines.

I'd have to agree with Zechs that this is last gen's best game, though.

[Tyson]

I've spent way too much time on this game over this long weekend. I kept trying to set time quotas on myself and failed. I'm already three artifacts away from what I assume is the last boss.

I never actually used to like Metroid Prime, I thought it was too hard, now it's easy. Only problem is, it's sapping revision time. Same goes for Zelda. (Well, I always liked Zelda, but you know what I mean.) Now that I'm older, I seem to catch on alot easier.

[DragonboyVNY]

most agreed! n_n Samus goes first person and finds a place in one of the best summers ever! (ahhhh.... those were the days...).

I feel old... I suppose it's what happens when you start playing less games...

Oh yes, Metroid Prime 1,2,3... before Super Metroid in chronology I think? I hope Nintendo does THAT thing with Super Metroid! (*unchains Metroid mutant and unscrews jam jar*).

I remember it took me forever to 100% it! I ended up referring to a guide for the last few missile and bombs. I also scanned fervantly like some crazy bounty hunting stalker... eh?

[Zechs Merquise]

most agreed! n_n Samus goes first person and finds a place in one of the best summers ever! (ahhhh.... those were the days...).

I feel old... I suppose it's what happens when you start playing less games...

Oh yes, Metroid Prime 1,2,3... before Super Metroid in chronology I think? I hope Nintendo does THAT thing with Super Metroid! (*unchains Metroid mutant and unscrews jam jar*).

I remember it took me forever to 100% it! I ended up referring to a guide for the last few missile and bombs. I also scanned fervantly like some crazy bounty hunting stalker... eh?

I remember when I got this it was a lot of summers ago! I was never into the idea of it because it didn't have dual analogue controls, and I hated the idea of having to hold down a button to look around.

Oh how wrong I was. I couldn't believe it when I started playing. The first thing that blew me away was how superb the graphics were, truly ground breaking and immersive. The attention to detail astounding, rain drop on the visor, steam, blood spatter. The feeling of isolation, of searching and monitoring life forms.

I also wondered how Metroid would translate into 3D, but this pulled it off 110%. Everything was in there, from the beams to the double jump. The backtracking is so rewarding, as you get a new power it just clicks - 'now I know how to get to the top of that canyon back in...'

I have played this game through three times, once imperfectly, the second time perfectly and the third because I wiped the data from the secon attempt lol.

I think when I get some time I'm gonna go back for one last visit...

[Tyson]

Finished... Now I can finally revise, unless I just end up getting Echoes out.

I seriously had no idea Metroid Prime would look like that. At first it looked like Starfox Adventures' Andross until it's legs poppep out. I thought it'd just be a huge normal metroid (which would be delicious.) The ending was a bit dissapointing though. Fifteen hours for that? Oh well.

[Ten10]

I'm replaying this, just finished the part with Omega Pirate thing. I brought prime 2 on launch day. Still isn't finished. The collectathons keep putting me off.

[Zechs Merquise]

I'm replaying this, just finished the part with Omega Pirate thing. I brought prime 2 on launch day. Still isn't finished. The collectathons keep putting me off.

Prime 2 was a bitter disappointment for me, but I'm kinda wanting to go back and see if it's more enjoyable a second time around!

[mcj metroid]

Prime 2 isn't as good i think it's mainly because it's much harder but not in a gradius kind if way more like a' i haven't got a clue where to go' way

[Tyson]

I found Prime 2 a lot easier than Prime the first time I played it through. Well, I never actually finished 2, but when I tried it I was tearing through it in comparison to 1. 21212121

[mcj metroid]

well ok the only reason you would find prime one harder is if you just COULNT NOT get used to the controls like some people i know. Are you an FPS fanatic?

[Jhaqen]

I just can't seem to get into this game. The controls are putting me off. I'm going to give it another go once my exams are over though.

[Tyson]

well ok the only reason you would find prime one harder is if you just COULNT NOT get used to the controls like some people i know. Are you an FPS fanatic?

What? And to who?

[Zell]

I didn't think either was particually harder than the other. Both had their fair share of tricky bosses, although it took me longer to get 100% in Prime than it did in Echoes.

[Atomic Boo]

I just thought, and this doesnt just apply with metroid, that even when you can complete a game when you're 12, you'd still want to play the 'sequel' to the game when you're 21, even when it becomes a lot easier. Or does i become easier when your older? Or do you get the same experience no matter what age. We all know that we will be able to complete Corruption fairly easily, but what is it that makes us want to play the same sorts of games? Is it how fun it is or how cool the levels look?

Its a weird thought that is difficult to come to terms with. I hope someone understands me...

[...]

What personally makes me tick in games is figuring out puzzles and being able to take my time as I please. There's a lot more to it than this, but it's the best I can say. That's why I hate time limits (even in racers, I hate the checkpoints) and love stealth.

Plus, the Metroid games are awesome in atmosphere, the soundtrack always puts you in a cerebral mood, rather than a pumped up "kill anything that moves" mood. In the first Metroid Prime I loved whenever you arrived at a puzzle and that typical "tum-tum, tum-tum" beat started, that really put you in a mood to think through it with all the calm in the world.

Same goes for Zelda, figuring out puzzles and taking your time enjoying a game world.

[Tyson]

Personally, I love the subconcious feeling of gratification you get from finishing a difficult puzzle. The ones the make you want to turn the arm cannon out of the screen and power beam yourself in the eye. Then there's the huge completion orgasm.

[Atomic Boo]

I know, but is it really a puzzle or just a give-away when you can do the puzzles when you're 12 but you'd still call them puzzles if you were 50. The puzzles make you think a little bit, but they are very easily solved no matter the age. We know when we play Corruption that we'll be able to complete all of the puzzles.

[mcj metroid]

What? And to who?

if you leave out the NOT there is isn't much left wrong with that sentence. You knew what i meant!

Personally, I love the subconcious feeling of gratification you get from finishing a difficult puzzle. The ones the make you want to turn the arm cannon out of the screen and power beam yourself in the eye. Then there's the huge completion orgasm.

yes i know that feeling it's great that's why i love puzzle solvers

[...]

I know, but is it really a puzzle or just a give-away when you can do the puzzles when you're 12 but you'd still call them puzzles if you were 50. The puzzles make you think a little bit, but they are very easily solved no matter the age. We know when we play Corruption that we'll be able to complete all of the puzzles.

You have a certain point, but you still have to admire clever level and puzzle design. For example, I'd say the Zelda puzzles are a bit easier to solve than Metroid puzzles, but you still have to admire their beauty of design. When you are in a big ass room and you start to see the logic behind its mechanics and how you affect them (even if it's almost always the same pattern, Zelda puzzles revolve around tried and tested techniques of pushing switches, lighting torches, shooting eyes with arrows, etc), you can't help but marvel at the puzzle placement. At least in my case. :)

[Atomic Boo]

You have a certain point, but you still have to admire clever level and puzzle design. For example, I'd say the Zelda puzzles are a bit easier to solve than Metroid puzzles, but you still have to admire their beauty of design. When you are in a big ass room and you start to see the logic behind its mechanics and how you affect them (even if it's almost always the same pattern, Zelda puzzles revolve around tried and tested techniques of pushing switches, lighting torches, shooting eyes with arrows, etc), you can't help but marvel at the puzzle placement. At least in my case. :)

I know, youve explained what ive said in my previous post, the level design is very good, and i guess thats what makes a puzzle. Puzzles should be made less obvious and so the environments dont give away obvious clues. Instead of lighting a torch and hoping it does something have something a lot more complicating and makes you think for a good few minutes. Dont make a puzzle revolve around an obvious central object, use various things that you may just give a once over, and implement them into a tricky puzzle.

[Tyson]

Whether the puzzle is hard or not, and regardless of how beautiful it is or isn't, as soon as the puzzle clicks and all the pieces begin to come together, you get a small high. Once you get this high, you keep coming back for more, but you can't get it from the same game over and over, you already know the puzzles by the second run. This is why we come back and continue to buy the sequels.

It's like when you buy Coca Cola or sweets, you like the taste, so you buy more, even when you know it's bad for you. It's like a drug.

[Atomic Boo]

Whether the puzzle is hard or not, and regardless of how beautiful it is or isn't, as soon as the puzzle clicks and all the pieces begin to come together, you get a small high. Once you get this high, you keep coming back for more, but you can't get it from the same game over and over, you already know the puzzles by the second run. This is why we come back and continue to buy the sequels.

It's like when you buy Coca Cola or sweets, you like the taste, so you buy more, even when you know it's bad for you. It's like a drug.
Good point, but that doesnt really explain it because the puzzles arent really getting harder or even much different. Why do you get a high (i know i do but...) even if the puzzle is actually quite simple. As ive said, puzzles in games could be brought to a whole new level, the puzzle genre/part of game at the moment could be further defined and improved with more realistic puzzles that dont give you the solutions on a plate.

[...]

Well, if games make puzzles too hard or obscure, then they fall in that category of off beat puzzles for which you really require a guide. One puzzle from Silent Hill comes to mind... the piano playing one. Resident Evil is also known for a bit of oddball puzzles that kind of stretch logic.

[Zechs Merquise]

Well, if games make puzzles too hard or obscure, then they fall in that category of off beat puzzles for which you really require a guide. One puzzle from Silent Hill comes to mind... the piano playing one. Resident Evil is also known for a bit of oddball puzzles that kind of stretch logic.

Resident Evil puzzles vary from superb to bizarre. The problem with bizarre puzzles are that they can ruin the fun in a game as the raise frustration without logic.

[KKOB]

More people need to give Prime another chance. Found some Nintendo fans who said they hadn't played any of the prime games, i promptly pointed them to an eBay auction where Prime was going for £8 but it now price.

[Climhazzard]

I dont understand people slagging this game off either, theres nothing wrong with it imo, it was pretty much the best game of the last generation, im currently playing through it again on hard dificulty, just getting ready to go up against omega pirate and im cackin maself.

[Jonnas]

Hey! A Metroid Prime thread!

Truly the best game of the last generation, this game could immerse better than most games.

-Beautiful graphics and monster design. Some of them are creative;

-Atmospheric sound and some memorable tunes (Magmoor caverns, Meta-Ridley boss fight);

-Great control system (the R button was frustrating in certain occasions, but nothing too serious). The obligatory power-ups were very intuitive and easy to use. Using the X-Ray visor to see paths and platforms and using the Thermal Visor to detect movement and living beings was wonderful. They didn't feel tacked on like other power-ups *ahem*Dark Visor*ahem*.;

-Many extras hidden in the game, including Missile Expansions, Health Packs, Scans, hidden artwork, different endings and the Beam Expansions (Loved those);

-The attention to detail is amazing. From the drops in Samus' visor to a few log scans that showed the pirates' reaction to Samus ("The Hunter's Morph Ball is impossible to recreate");

-The plot was good and I loved the fact that the only people who got that one were the people that bothered to explore and read the scans. I also liked the fact that they tried to find an explanation for everything that was unrealistic (Ex.: The hovering platforms) or too convenient (Ex.: The Chozo power-ups received an explanation in this game);

-The atmosphere in different places was amazing and breathtaking. I felt tense when exploring the space station and calm in Tallon Overworld and the open areas in Phendrana Drifts. I could also feel the hostile ambient in the Pirate bases in Phendrana and the Phazon Mines and was always with my cannon ready. The Chozo Ruins in the desert and Phendrana were awe inspiring and I felt like I actually was in a sacred place. When I was exploring the sunken frigate, it seemed like it was an abandoned house. That segment was quite creepy. Finally, the Impact Crater inspired fear into my heart as I was about to face "The Worm";

-The boss fights were epic: Meta-Ridley has the greatest atmosphere in a boss fight EVER. Omega Pirate was also quite hard, Flaahgra had me stumped for a while (I missed the part of the scan where it said he could be stunned) and Metroid Prime was long and tiresome. Even minor bosses like Sheegoth and the Elite Pirates had their moments.

By the way, I believe that the reason that Echoes felt worse than Prime was because of the linearity and set objectives. There was nothing wrong with the Dark World, except for all the negative feelings it brings (hostility, fear, darkness, danger).

Finally, one of my favourite Metroid Prime moments.
Basically, I was in the Phazon Mines, in room with two floors. I entered in the lower floor and saw several Power Troopers pointing their guns at me. I quickly crossed the room to the boxes that lead to the upper floor. When I climbed them, I could still see the pirates waving their guns at me trying to get clear shot at me while I was hiding in a wall.
Then, I turn around and see two Wave Troopers about to attack me. I changed to the Wave cannon while trying to avoid the physical blows (I got hit a few times). Then, I charge the gun and release the Wave buster, killing them quickly.
However, one them landed in an apparently decorative glass near the floor. It turns out it wasn't decorative, as the Wave corpse broke it. The moment it did. The Power Troopers turned their heads as if they heard it, and saw me hitting me in my hiding spot, nearly killing me before I thought of a second plan

It was memorable for several reasons:

-It showed the Troopers had a competent and beievable A.I.;

-It showed that what I thought was a scenario actually behaved unexpectedly and realistically;

-Tested my reflexes and quick thinking against a few grunts. In real life, a few grunts from a big organization would actually be dangerous and we don't see much of it in videogames.

[...]

Best MP moment for me was definitely the Sunken Frigate exploration. THE best gaming moment ever for me, no game has come near to this, not in the past, and not up till now. No Zelda either. :)

[Retro_Link]

-The plot was good and I loved the fact that the only people who got that one were the people that bothered to explore and read the scans.

-The atmosphere in different places was amazing and breathtaking. I felt tense when exploring the space station and calm in Tallon Overworld and the open areas in Phendrana Drifts. I could also feel the hostile ambient in the Pirate bases in Phendrana and the Phazon Mines and was always with my cannon ready. The Chozo Ruins in the desert and Phendrana were awe inspiring and I felt like I actually was in a sacred place. When I was exploring the sunken frigate, it seemed like it was an abandoned house. That segment was quite creepy. Finally, the Impact Crater inspired fear into my heart as I was about to face "The Worm";

-The boss fights were epic: Meta-Ridley has the greatest atmosphere in a boss fight EVER.Fantastic post that pretty much sums up my feelngs on an absolutely awesome game!

[Fresh]

Ok, I've bought this for the second time. £8.99. I never played it more than once the first time, I hope it make more of an impact on my this time.

[gorrit]

-The atmosphere in different places was amazing and breathtaking. I felt tense when exploring the space station and calm in Tallon Overworld and the open areas in Phendrana Drifts. I could also feel the hostile ambient in the Pirate bases in Phendrana and the Phazon Mines and was always with my cannon ready. The Chozo Ruins in the desert and Phendrana were awe inspiring and I felt like I actually was in a sacred place. When I was exploring the sunken frigate, it seemed like it was an abandoned house. That segment was quite creepy. Finally, the Impact Crater inspired fear into my heart as I was about to face "The Worm";

Metroid Prime was my favourite game the last generation, and this is one of the main reasons. The atmosphere and mood is simply fantastic and nothing else I've played has bested it.

[Zelda_Rulez]

-The attention to detail is amazing. From the drops in Samus' visor to a few log scans that showed the pirates' reaction to Samus ("The Hunter's Morph Ball is impossible to recreate");

-The plot was good and I loved the fact that the only people who got that one were the people that bothered to explore and read the scans. I also liked the fact that they tried to find an explanation for everything that was unrealistic (Ex.: The hovering platforms) or too convenient (Ex.: The Chozo power-ups received an explanation in this game);

-The atmosphere in different places was amazing and breathtaking. I felt tense when exploring the space station and calm in Tallon Overworld and the open areas in Phendrana Drifts. I could also feel the hostile ambient in the Pirate bases in Phendrana and the Phazon Mines and was always with my cannon ready. The Chozo Ruins in the desert and Phendrana were awe inspiring and I felt like I actually was in a sacred place. When I was exploring the sunken frigate, it seemed like it was an abandoned house. That segment was quite creepy. Finally, the Impact Crater inspired fear into my heart as I was about to face "The Worm";

-The boss fights were epic: Meta-Ridley has the greatest atmosphere in a boss fight EVER. Omega Pirate was also quite hard, Flaahgra had me stumped for a while (I missed the part of the scan where it said he could be stunned) and Metroid Prime was long and tiresome. Even minor bosses like Sheegoth and the Elite Pirates had their moments.

By the way, I believe that the reason that Echoes felt worse than Prime was because of the linearity and set objectives. There was nothing wrong with the Dark World, except for all the negative feelings it brings (hostility, fear, darkness, danger).

Great post! MP was also my favourite game in the last generation. I too loved the way they handled the story, you had to find all the puzzle pieces and put it all together yourself. This way you felt more immersed in the game world, you were Samus.

The boss fights were also greatly designed. At first they seemed incredibly hard but after you've tried them a few times, it's easily possible to make it through without being hit. This was especially the case with Meta-Ridley for me, the first time I made it with just 14 health. One more hit and it would have been over. Now it's easily possible for me to beat him with full health on hard mode.

I replayed this game a few weeks ago, and it still holds up even after I've played it through five times already. When I played Echoes afterwards, it was great but not as great as the first one. Like you said it felt a bit too linear. The language doors were blocking your exploration everywhere until you found the translator files.

[thomaschung]

Metroid Prime is my favourite game of the last generation. I say this yet I have only spent 17 hours on the game and at 40%. I can't believe I stopped playing this game at around 13 hours when I first for it. It was because I bought another game and as always I find it very hard to get back into them once I stop.

With the forthcoming release of Corruption, I decided to get it back out again and it blows me away again. It's such an awesome game and I was suprised to pick up the controls again relatively easy after about 5 or 6 years.

I think I ought to complete this and Echoes before I get Corruption. Echoes is also brilliant.

[Ten10]

I prefer prime over prime 2. Still trying to finish prime 2, 3 years down the line. I just can be bothered with those sky temple keys. And then retro have the nerve to do another 'drag out the game for all its worth' scheme in prime 3 too. :(

[UK]

Prime was in my top 3 GC games, and it exceeds the sequel. Great graphics, sound and gameplay made it what is it. There were 1 of 3 endings, I got the middle one (I think)

The final boss was a bit crap though, not hard, and it wasn't even a metroid. And Metroid Prime didn't return in MP 2, either. Now, the meta ridley fight on the other hand...

[Jonnas]

The final boss was a bit crap though, not hard, and it wasn't even a metroid. Now, the meta ridley fight on the other hand...

Well, it is a bit hard to compete with the Meta-Ridley fight...

And Metroid Prime didn't return in MP 2, either.

Go watch the 100% ending and then tell me if Metroid Prime appeared in MP2 or not...

[ShadowV7]

Anyone else replaying the Primes before gearing up for the finale?

On the 12th of October i'm gonna start Metroid Prime ,then on the 18th start Prime 2 since i'm expecting Prime 3 a few days early.

[Hero-of-Time]

Anyone else replaying the Primes before gearing up for the finale?

On the 12th of October i'm gonna start Metroid Prime ,then on the 18th start Prime 2 since i'm expecting Prime 3 a few days early.

I finished Prime 1 100% so I wont go back to that but Prime 2 I still need to beat on Hard Mode so I will replay that before the 3rd one is unleashed upon us all.

Its gonna be hard trying to juggle all the killer titles that are starting to come out especially when Halo 3 and Zelda:PH are so close.

[ShadowV7]

I finished Prime 1 100% so I wont go back to that but Prime 2 I still need to beat on Hard Mode so I will replay that before the 3rd one is unleashed upon us all.

Its gonna be hard trying to juggle all the killer titles that are starting to come out especially when Halo 3 and Zelda:PH are so close.

I have so many games to complete just now and doesn't help with a load coming in the next few weeks.
I still have GC games to complete and i'm on the Wii pretty much everyday. And I really wanna re-play Resi 4 again on Professional mode ,Twilight Princess and also want to play Sonic again, but I still have Trauma Centre and Paper Mario complete for the Wii before I do that.

And got Baten Kaitos Origins to complete along with some DS games and the Viewtifull Joes.

I have a lot to do :(

[killer kirby]

Anyone else replaying the Primes before gearing up for the finale?

On the 12th of October i'm gonna start Metroid Prime ,then on the 18th start Prime 2 since i'm expecting Prime 3 a few days early.

I just got through Prime, gave that game to one of me mates to show what he was really missing (lol first time he has ever played a metroid game and he loved the morph ball :laughing:

I am just starting to play Metroid Prime 2 now. Playing it the second time all I can say is that it's really underrated. Don't know why people give so crap to this game. IT WAS GOOD!!!!!!

[Ten10]

Turns out I had most of the sky temple keys. Which was why when I went searching for some using a guide I didn't find anything. Got my butt whooped by the emperor ing and then switched off my cube possibly leaving the game for another 3 years.

[Retro_Link]

I'm selling currently selling Metroid Prime and MP2: Echoes, if anyone is interested?
Also have a sealed copy of MP.

http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=560029#post560029

[Jonnas]

I am just starting to play Metroid Prime 2 now. Playing it the second time all I can say is that it's really underrated. Don't know why people give so crap to this game. IT WAS GOOD!!!!!!

People keep comparing it to Metroid Prime 1.
Echoes ain't a bad game, but out of all the gamecube games it's the only one that keeps getting that treatment.

To be fair, any game looks bad when compared to Metroid Prime.

[Ten10]

Yeah but you must also remember prime to was nintendo's killer game which bombed big time. I remember in gamestation they had a wall full of prime 2 going at ten quid. Anyway todays attempted ended with me being ended by emperor ing stage 3

[Deathborn]

Finished Echoes again last week. I just "cheated" by skipping the Sky Temple Keys search using another of my files to beat the last boss. :heh:

[Zelda_Rulez]

Finished Echoes again last week. I just "cheated" by skipping the Sky Temple Keys search using another of my files to beat the last boss. :heh:

I cheated a bit in my replay of Echoes last month as well. Skipped one of the Ing Hive keys by Screw Attacking over the gate. I just wanted to fight Quadraxis again. I did get the key after the fight though. :p

[Ten10]

Proof that the great Ten10 has finally finished the fight after 3 years

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z150/_Ten10_/Iwin.jpg

Now I think I'm going to replay the first game. Hopefully I can after that finish prime 2 within another 3 years so I'll fully understand what's going on in Prime 3.

[Zelda_Rulez]

Proof that the great Ten10 has finally finished the fight after 3 years

Now I think I'm going to replay the first game. Hopefully I can after that finish prime 2 within another 3 years so I'll fully understand what's going on in Prime 3.

Congrats, now try for 100% to see the extra ending. :)

[killer kirby]

Congrats, now try for 100% to see the extra ending. :)

Don't talk about that, I have 100% scans and 99% of items, try looking for one damn missile in that massive world

[Zelda_Rulez]

Don't talk about that, I have 100% scans and 99% of items, try looking for one damn missile in that massive world

I had the same problem a month ago. I went through the 100% items walkthrough and I could swear I had got them all. Then I stumbled upon the last missile while randomly walking through Torvus. :D Why I never got that one was a mystery to me as it was in plain sight. :p

[ShadowV7]

Don't talk about that, I have 100% scans and 99% of items, try looking for one damn missile in that massive world

I have the honour to say I have 100% items :D Me and my friend spent hours playing it and communiccated via MSN about traveling around the place looking for expansions before we done the final boss.

Yay for extended ending.

[Hero-of-Time]

Proof that the great Ten10 has finally finished the fight after 3 years

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z150/_Ten10_/Iwin.jpg

Now I think I'm going to replay the first game. Hopefully I can after that finish prime 2 within another 3 years so I'll fully understand what's going on in Prime 3.

Big congrats for finally beating it. Do you feel your life is now complete :)

[Ten10]

I feel like never doing it again, seriously. Probably because the game put a lot of restrictions on you, I didn't feel as free as I did in the first one. I'm replaying prime on hard and then I'll go back to the second to try 100%

[...]

I just finished the game with 99% and watched the extended ending on YouTube. No way I'm gonna waste time searching for that elusive extra 1%.

[Deathborn]

The extra ending in Prime 2 was quite shitty. Very unsurprising and not even satisfying since we can see that kin of thing several times during the game.

The one in Prime was awesome. I was quite disappointed when I see Dark Samus not having the eye on his hand. It seems they changed their design idea between Prime and Echoes and made it less monstruous. I was quite sad of that.

[thomaschung]

You just gave awau some spoiler i have not completed the game yet!

[ShadowV7]

The extra ending in Prime 2 was quite shitty. Very unsurprising and not even satisfying since we can see that kin of thing several times during the game.

The one in Prime was awesome. I was quite disappointed when I see Dark Samus not having the eye on his hand. It seems they changed their design idea between Prime and Echoes and made it less monstruous. I was quite sad of that.

There's barely a bit I understood of that and i've completed the game :heh:

[Patch]

I've completed both Primes on Hard, 100% scans, 100% items.

I rock.

But for some reason, I can't be bothered doing the same for the handheld games.

[Aalborg]

tried Echoes again some time ago.. but had completely forgotten about that spider-ball boss.. tried 3 times and turned the thing off.. havent touched it since

[Mikey]

Playing Prime 2 at the moment. Good game. The dark world parts are a bit annoying though.

[ShadowV7]

Is it Metroid Prime that unlocks a new suit when you connect up Fusion? Cause guess what I just bought :heh:

[Retro_Link]

Is it Metroid Prime that unlocks a new suit when you connect up Fusion? Cause guess what I just bought :heh:Yeah, it's actually 4 new suits really!

They downgrade or upgrade along with the suits in Prime...
Varia -> Power -> Varia -> Gravity -> Phazon.

Except it's the four suits from Fusion!

http://yessite.20fr.com/images/fusionsuits.jpg

[ShadowV7]

Ohh cool. Thanks for that there. Can't wait to get those 2 games connected up!

[Mikey]

Fucking **** boss which has that speed ball. :( Keep dying!! :(

[Ten10]

I think with the speed ball one there is a glitch where you can shoot at it before you enter the room. I don't remember where I read it, and I haven't tried it on the pal version but give shooting right infront of you before going in the room a shot.

[Zelda_Rulez]

I think with the speed ball one there is a glitch where you can shoot at it before you enter the room. I don't remember where I read it, and I haven't tried it on the pal version but give shooting right infront of you before going in the room a shot.

You can do something like that with the Jump Guardian, but not the Boost Guardian unfortunately. There's another trick you can use on the Boost Guardian to beat him easily, but I haven't tried that one yet.

Here's a vid of it. http://www.metroid2002.com/echoes/boss_tricks_boost_guardian.php

Here's a video of the Jump Guardian trick for those interested: http://www.metroid2002.com/echoes/boss_tricks_jump_guardian.php

[Tales]

I haven't finished either of them. Metroid Prime was a great game, I loved the adventure and the platform elements and the difficulty was good surprise. But by the time I reached the final boss I was sick and tired of losing countless times so I quit after three-four tries and haven't touched it since.

Metroid Prime 2 wasn't as good as the original, I didn't enjoy having to change between the dark and light world. If the worlds were completly different, I wouldn't be bothered, but I hated to constantly having to change world every five minute to look for small clues I couldn't find or look in the wrong place. And that bloody Boost boss....I was so pissed at it. I managed to beat it eventually. I quit playing when I was asked to collect those keys. There is no way I will backtrack every place I have been looking for dead aliens I can't find while being bugged by aliens I can't flee from(Oh god, I hate them so much)Worst fetch quest ever. I have played tons of RPGs, but this is definitively the worst fetch quest I have ever encountered. Sold it a few weeks after release and then rebought it earlier this year for less then 10 punds purely for collection purpose. It was sealed and I just had to open it and try to continue(I still had the file). I quit playing after a minute when I remembered why I sold it. Stupid me.

Just for the record, I haven't finished Metroid for VC either, and I'm not going to.

For some weird reason, I am going to buy Metroid Prime 3 :P

[Mikey]

You can do something like that with the Jump Guardian, but not the Boost Guardian unfortunately. There's another trick you can use on the Boost Guardian to beat him easily, but I haven't tried that one yet.

Here's a vid of it. http://www.metroid2002.com/echoes/boss_tricks_boost_guardian.php

Here's a video of the Jump Guardian trick for those interested: http://www.metroid2002.com/echoes/boss_tricks_jump_guardian.php

Haha, thanks, but I beat the fucker before legit. :) Took me hours though.

[Patch]

...For some weird reason, I am going to buy Metroid Prime 3 :P

Haha, kind of a love/hate relationship you got there by the sound of it.

[Mikey]

Spider guardian in Echoes is a real ****. lol

[Illusionary]

Spider guardian in Echoes is a real ****. lol

I don't mind the Spider guardian that much - I actually enjoy most of it; it's just incredibly frustrating at times. The boost ball guardian, on the other hand... :shakehead

[Zelda_Rulez]

Spider guardian in Echoes is a real ****. lol

I always get really tense at the last bomb jump, always rolling of that little ramp (why did they have to put that there!) and missing the slot. I only succeed when I have like 20 health left, shaking from the nerves. I never had to do the fight more than once though, luckily. :p

[Mikey]

On the last boss, just died on Dark Samus. :( I did most of the game by myself, but by the time I got to the sancuary, I got a bit fed up of the game, and I've used the guide for the rest of it. I have Half Life 2 Orange box coming soon, and want to get the game finished before I get it..

To be honest, I can't say I enjoyed it as much as I thought I would. The whole dark world thing was a bit of an annoyance, and would have prefered it if it was just like Prime 1. I hear Prime Corruption is a lot more accessable, which is definitely a good thing. I'd give it an 8 out of 10.

Finished the game tonight. Ending was very short. :(

[jammy2211]

Can someone help me out on Metroid Prime 2? I just got the echo visor and well, it doesn't seem to work :/.

I use it in the room I got it, get the three white pad locks and 3 orange sonar things. I locked on to all 3 of those sonars, shot them with my power beam, and now I can't lock onto them again, but the white padlocks are still there :/.

Am I doing something wrong? Or is it a glitch, cause it seems pretty weird.

[mcj metroid]

@jammy
you need to annialator beam which is the combination of light and dark energy. Thats why the power beam will bouce right off the walls. The annilator is the last beam you get I think.

I had this problem as well. You're missing something I forget what though:)
Hope i'm right

[darksnowman]

Out of interest McJ, which of the Gamecube Primes do you prefer? (and why!)

[Tellyn]

I'm going to have to get Metroid Prime 1 and 2 before I play the Wii version. Where are the cheapest places to get it? I'm not too bothered if it's preowned, just as long as it's in a good condition. No eBay links please.

[mcj metroid]

Out of interest McJ, which of the Gamecube Primes do you prefer? (and why!)

The first for virtually every reason bar sixe and graphics I guess.

I enjoyed echoes a lot but felt it took the hardcoreness to a frustrating level. I loved the hard bosses but the stupid key hunt at the end annoyed me.
Echoes was the bigger game but every environment looked similiar.

I much prefer primes fire,ice,underwater,temple ruins areas.

The music is a lot better in prime. Ice valley is dreamy.