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demonmike04
25-10-2005, 03:13 PM
Ok, a while back there was an interviw with NOE's Jim Merrick. One of the quotes I picked up from the Interview was quite interesting.

Since I cannot find the interview (If any one could find it and post the link, i'd be very grateful), the quote was kinda like this:
Im suprised Nintendo is going as slow as it is revealing revolutions features. Theres so much to be revealed.

So, is he talking about games in development, more controller features, or perhaps even more revolutionary aspects to the machine which we've had no hint on?

So, now to the point of this topic:
What feature would you like revolution to have and why?

Suggestions for a toaster are accepted (If any one knows what im talking about :wink: ).

mike-zim
25-10-2005, 03:16 PM
the ability to play ds games some how.

DCK
25-10-2005, 03:21 PM
There might be other little surprises to come. It can be things such an attachable headset (with voice over IP perhaps) or other downloadable extras. Don't expect anything too big though.

Charlie
25-10-2005, 03:38 PM
There might be other little surprises to come. It can be things such an attachable headset (with voice over IP perhaps) or other downloadable extras. Don't expect anything too big though.

I would be surprised if ther wasn't an attachable headset. That is a must if they want to their online play to beat Microsofts.

Calibur
25-10-2005, 04:09 PM
I dont think they care about beating M$. They did say that they consider Sony to be their main competition, but I agree that a headset would be great to have for online play.

RuneSP
25-10-2005, 04:27 PM
of course, i know what it is... its a....




VISOR :D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D::D:X

djamb3
25-10-2005, 04:32 PM
It should be a time machine entitled "see how much we revolutioned the world.and get your chance to see how sony sucked doing consoles :P"

lolol :)

demonmike04
25-10-2005, 04:50 PM
There might be other little surprises to come. It can be things such an attachable headset (with voice over IP perhaps) or other downloadable extras. Don't expect anything too big though.
Im not expectin anything mind blowing. Im just asking what people think could be the other features. Its an imagination game realy.

Pyxis
25-10-2005, 05:05 PM
How about another remote control for DVDs? :heh: Im looking forward to some extra add ons and the conventional controller shell. Just show us the bloody games...

YenRug
25-10-2005, 07:42 PM
There might be other little surprises to come. It can be things such an attachable headset (with voice over IP perhaps) or other downloadable extras. Don't expect anything too big though.

Why do people keep on insisting on suggesting wired headsets? Are you all forgetting that the Revolution is using Bluetooth? You know, that wireless protocol that all of those wireless headsets, for mobile phones, use. Anyone else seeing this very slight connection I'm hinting at?

Konfucius
25-10-2005, 10:50 PM
I heard a rumour that there was some kind of 3D simulation similar to 3D cinema and that rumour was backed up by George Lucas and Peter Jackson and considering the name of the processor and graphics card (Broadway, Hollywood) this could be true.

Shaolins_finest
26-10-2005, 06:34 AM
I heard a rumour that there was some kind of 3D simulation similar to 3D cinema and that rumour was backed up by George Lucas and Peter Jackson and considering the name of the processor and graphics card (Broadway, Hollywood) this could be true.

yeah, your talking about a new way to view 2d in 3d (not cube maps) This new technology suposedly makes images appear outside of the screen litterally without the need for 3d glasses. George lucas is re-releasing the whole star wars trilogy using this technology on DVD's again. They had a big conference with the director of spy kids 3d, Sin City, george lucas, peter jackson and other well known directors. They all will be supporting this new technology by 2007. At the end of the conference the director of Sin city told a journalist that this new way of viewing movies is amazing, he then went on to say that you will not see this new 3d technology apear in movies first, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.

I forgot all about this until now. This was on regular news sites, not gaming sites like spong.com or ign, Maybe that company he's talking about is Nintendo and thats why they're not showing revolution games yet, because thats probably an easier technology to copy than the controller. Iwata did state back at E3 that when you see how the games look you will me amazed, so they can't just look like updated gamecube games since that wont amaze anyone and seeing that the controller can really manipulate objects on screen, to have certain objects appear to pop out fits the controller greatly.

This would be a great thing to have and it will actually outshine Ps3 graphics. picture driving a car and you side swipe a guard rail and it looks like sparks fly out of your tv from the side of your car or Smoke in a game looks like smoke infront of your tv. This technology is real and its real that a certain videogame maker will be usings this technology according to the guy who made sin city. Of course he could have been commenting on a rumor he heard because how in the hell would he know what nintendo was doing almost a year ago when this story came out? Either Nintendo has this technology and are waiting for E306, The Sin City directors passing off rumors that he heard, or some cpu game company will make a game with this technology for the cpu. Either way the thought of this new form of 3d really sounded cool back when i read it. I wish i had the link.

Stocka
26-10-2005, 08:10 AM
^^ Hope all thats true.

demonmike04
26-10-2005, 01:05 PM
yeah, your talking about a new way to view 2d in 3d (not cube maps) This new technology suposedly makes images appear outside of the screen litterally without the need for 3d glasses. George lucas is re-releasing the whole star wars trilogy using this technology on DVD's again. They had a big conference with the director of spy kids 3d, Sin City, george lucas, peter jackson and other well known directors. They all will be supporting this new technology by 2007. At the end of the conference the director of Sin city told a journalist that this new way of viewing movies is amazing, he then went on to say that you will not see this new 3d technology apear in movies first, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.

I forgot all about this until now. This was on regular news sites, not gaming sites like spong.com or ign, Maybe that company he's talking about is Nintendo and thats why they're not showing revolution games yet, because thats probably an easier technology to copy than the controller. Iwata did state back at E3 that when you see how the games look you will me amazed, so they can't just look like updated gamecube games since that wont amaze anyone and seeing that the controller can really manipulate objects on screen, to have certain objects appear to pop out fits the controller greatly.

This would be a great thing to have and it will actually outshine Ps3 graphics. picture driving a car and you side swipe a guard rail and it looks like sparks fly out of your tv from the side of your car or Smoke in a game looks like smoke infront of your tv. This technology is real and its real that a certain videogame maker will be usings this technology according to the guy who made sin city. Of course he could have been commenting on a rumor he heard because how in the hell would he know what nintendo was doing almost a year ago when this story came out? Either Nintendo has this technology and are waiting for E306, The Sin City directors passing off rumors that he heard, or some cpu game company will make a game with this technology for the cpu. Either way the thought of this new form of 3d really sounded cool back when i read it. I wish i had the link.
Holy crepe. Without the need for 3D Glasses? I love those glasses...

Thats pretty amazing if they use this in Revo. And it suits the controller perfectly if you think about it.
Objects looking like they are outside the TV = Better accuracy with the Controller.

DCK
26-10-2005, 01:15 PM
I wonder how they'd do that. Perhaps they display another image every other frame so that they're merged to 3D in your brain? It'd only cause headaches I guess... If true, I'm glad I got a 100 Hz TV :woops:

Demuwan
26-10-2005, 01:51 PM
yeah, your talking about a new way to view 2d in 3d (not cube maps) This new technology suposedly makes images appear outside of the screen litterally without the need for 3d glasses. George lucas is re-releasing the whole star wars trilogy using this technology on DVD's again. They had a big conference with the director of spy kids 3d, Sin City, george lucas, peter jackson and other well known directors. They all will be supporting this new technology by 2007. At the end of the conference the director of Sin city told a journalist that this new way of viewing movies is amazing, he then went on to say that you will not see this new 3d technology apear in movies first, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.

I forgot all about this until now. This was on regular news sites, not gaming sites like spong.com or ign, Maybe that company he's talking about is Nintendo and thats why they're not showing revolution games yet, because thats probably an easier technology to copy than the controller. Iwata did state back at E3 that when you see how the games look you will me amazed, so they can't just look like updated gamecube games since that wont amaze anyone and seeing that the controller can really manipulate objects on screen, to have certain objects appear to pop out fits the controller greatly.

This would be a great thing to have and it will actually outshine Ps3 graphics. picture driving a car and you side swipe a guard rail and it looks like sparks fly out of your tv from the side of your car or Smoke in a game looks like smoke infront of your tv. This technology is real and its real that a certain videogame maker will be usings this technology according to the guy who made sin city. Of course he could have been commenting on a rumor he heard because how in the hell would he know what nintendo was doing almost a year ago when this story came out? Either Nintendo has this technology and are waiting for E306, The Sin City directors passing off rumors that he heard, or some cpu game company will make a game with this technology for the cpu. Either way the thought of this new form of 3d really sounded cool back when i read it. I wish i had the link.

FUCK ME (soz) That would be SOO COOL
PS3 would be left trailing plzzzz tell me this true
E3 2006 lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

MunKy
26-10-2005, 02:01 PM
So it just looks like it pops out the screen? Thats pretty kool. But imagine holograms appearing on your coffee table or floor. Still good news, but remember this could also apply to Sony...Though they would need you to re-mortgage your house to buy it.

Konfucius
26-10-2005, 03:16 PM
Wow, thanks for the info I didn't know what exactly I had to expect when I first read about it.
And it must be the Revo which has this features, because if it was for PC or one of the other consoles they would have announced it long ago with what new and inventive form of displaying they came up with.

This technology perfectly fitts the new controller and these things together should make it an absolute must have - at least it's that for me.

kav82
26-10-2005, 04:40 PM
If this actually happens, that would be great. Could you imagine incoming bullet fire... AWESOME!

demonmike04
26-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Well, we dont know if its true yet, but we will find out soon since Stocka has recently said more to be revealed before Xmas. Hope your right Stocka.

Sooj
26-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Also, another reason why it could be Nintendo:

Do you guys remember, a year back, Nintendo spoke of actually, literally seeing your games in a different way? Many probably thought that we would see whats happening at different angles but this would be amazing lol

I hope someone else is able to Remember Nintendo saying something along those lines. Anyway, yeah, I honestly can NOT wait!

demonmike04
26-10-2005, 05:20 PM
Also, another reason why it could be Nintendo:

Do you guys remember, a year back, Nintendo spoke of actually, literally seeing your games in a different way? Many probably thought that we would see whats happening at different angles but this would be amazing lol

I hope someone else is able to Remember Nintendo saying something along those lines. Anyway, yeah, I honestly can NOT wait!
I was talking to a friend about that quote last night, but I still think it was a figure of speach. If i get proved wrong about that, im going to be very happy.

Since the controller is the ultimate in innovation (Apart from virtual reality), so you feel you are part of the game. This way theres more fun, and more newcomers into the Gaming world, making Video games an even bigger industry. I think they meant the way we see games in a business point of view. But go ahead Nintendo, prove me wrong.

Shaolins_finest
26-10-2005, 07:57 PM
^^ Hope all thats true.

trust me it's all true, I found a link talking about george lucas re-releasing the star wars DVD and the big event with all the movie directors. Im looking for the link with the quote that a video game company is using this 3d technology.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/news.php?id=7210

Shaolins_finest
26-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Okay i may have jumped the gun, this is from the Broken Saints website:

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During the ShoWest film conference, a panel featuring George Lucus, Robert Zemekis, James Cameron, Robert Rodriguez, and a satellite feed from Peter Jackson discuss their plans to integrate cheap digital stereoscopic 3D into major theater chains by 2007. Here's where things get interesting: Burgess claims to know an agent who spoke to Robert Rodriguez, stating they knew of a game machine that would exploit this new wave of 3D entertainment well before Hollywood could jump in on the market.
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What gave this rumor legs was because it came from the mouth of Brook Burgess, If you dont know him, He's not some guy with a blog saying he works in a game dev company. He really was a top level guy at EA and left a couple of years ago to write and direct comic books. If anybody knows people in the industry its him. Alot of his friends and contacts are still in the gaming industry so he is definitely in the know. But this is still just a rumor but it's from a very big reliable source. The equivalent of him saying something about the industry is up there with old nintendo president Yamauchi saying something, neither of them are in the game industry anymore but they both still communicate and help around in the industry from time to time, so the rumor definitely something to watch out for.

Razz
26-10-2005, 09:46 PM
im soo excited if this is tru! imagine playing zelda, having the enemies weapon actually come out fo the screen and skim you. or playin mario 128 havin mario throw fireballs out of the screen. how about metroid!? amazing actual 3D graphics, energy balls flyin across your livin room and space pirates coming within inches of your face. even a metroid latching on 3Dimensionally. wow is all i can say.... (PLEASE DONT BE A RUMOUR!! :unsure: )

i mean just think, this means that better graphics like the PS3 isnt the dead end of video games, coz now there might be realism!

Stocka
26-10-2005, 11:05 PM
trust me it's all true, I found a link talking about george lucas re-releasing the star wars DVD and the big event with all the movie directors. Im looking for the link with the quote that a video game company is using this 3d technology.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/news.php?id=7210
Yeah, I trust you, what I meant was I hope its used for Revolution.

Stocka
26-10-2005, 11:39 PM
he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.
, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.
, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.
, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.
, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.
, he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.

This basically confirms it will be on REV! 100%!

Pyxis
26-10-2005, 11:44 PM
It wont be used on the revolution....this is a really old and baseless rumour guys... Just expect good graphics.

Stocka
26-10-2005, 11:46 PM
It wont be used on the revolution....this is a really old and baseless rumour guys... Just expect good graphics.
Well if its for a console in 2006, it will be used for either the PS3 or Rev.

Pyxis
27-10-2005, 12:30 AM
pretty far fetched though right? Yeah, that comments makes it sound very likely...I just wonder why there is little talk about this technology in the media and perhaps it isnt that impressive...I dont know how they would achieve it as without the 3d glasses, those films are incredibly blurry!

Shaolins_finest
27-10-2005, 01:58 AM
pretty far fetched though right? Yeah, that comments makes it sound very likely...I just wonder why there is little talk about this technology in the media and perhaps it isnt that impressive...I dont know how they would achieve it as without the 3d glasses, those films are incredibly blurry!

No this technology is very impressive, James Cameron even stated that he would never film a movie again without being in 3d like this. I dont know how they do it, but it's some way to trick one eye into looking at one part of the screen and the other eye looks at another part and the image pops out the screen somehow. It's hard to explain and it works from all angles too. It's basically an illusion that tricks your brain and yet it has no effects on your sight or brain. No teary eyes or headaches.

Shaolins_finest
27-10-2005, 08:58 AM
This is the kind of 3d illusions im talking about

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Flippant_Venus_Plunge.gif

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Nancy_and_Landon%27s_Hearth.gif

Stocka
27-10-2005, 09:06 AM
This is the kind of 3d illusions im talking about

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Flippant_Venus_Plunge.gif

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Nancy_and_Landon%27s_Hearth.gif
Yeah I saw some like that on the Gamespot forums, this one is amazing, gives you a fantastic feeling of immersion:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/dark-solus/Old_Stone_Gate.gif

Its as if you want to lean forward and touch that fireplace. Stunning.

Razz
27-10-2005, 10:23 AM
wow guys that is cool. i think they might actually do this. but if sony do it, you'd probably have to sell your soul to sony or something ^.^

Demuwan
27-10-2005, 02:21 PM
"From U.S. Patent filed on July 21, 2004

This rumor centers on new technologies that would change the way a gamer actually watches a game. To start, here's a brief intro: a fixation point is whatever a gamer stares at most of the time when playing a game. Thing is, most games feature several of these fixation points, so developers have needed to devise methods of including every object on screen at all times. When this wasn't possible, the display needed to shift and prioritize objects according to the action. Developers accomplished this by zooming the image up or down, to help gamers re-focus their attention. Just look at any number of sports games. The camera invariably follows the soccer ball, baseball or football. The document argues that the constant change in perspective makes playing games tougher than it should.

The patent describes a technology that would prevent a fixation point from moving and prevent the display area from changing in size. Regardless of where a player sits, he (or she) would command a deep view of the happenings on screen. This would also carry over into multiplayer gaming, where multiple players would normally require multiple fixation points. The new set of technologies would eliminate the strain associated with split-screen gaming. In summary, this would all make for excellent game sessions thanks to unparalleled view of the display. Changing the way a gamer watches the action unfold on-screen would be somewhat revolutionary, but again, it's too early to tell exactly how Nintendo plans on using the tech described in the patent. Unless, of course, they already have to some degree...


But that didn't stop anyone from speculating. Once again, rumors seeped into websites and forums. The conjecture pointed at everything from holographic imaging to new methods of image processing where a developer could create hyper realistic vistas at a fraction of the current processing cost. The latter of which alleviates concerns over the rumors that the Revolution will lack the raw processing power of both the PS3 and Xbox 2. If Nintendo has found a way to render realistic imaging at a relatively low processing cost, then it really doesn't matter that the Revolution will lack some of the punch of competing consoles. What matters is that it will stand on equal footing from a graphics stand point. Furthermore, the technologies developed to nix the forever-changing "fixation points" problem will only reinforce the new rendering methods...or so go the rumors."

Anyone remember this one. Im pretty sure Ninty actually said something about fixation points and how they would use them.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p7.html

This may be another piece of evidence?

Calza
29-10-2005, 01:05 PM
I was just wondering will you need the Gamecube controller to play Gamecube games?, as i haven't seen anything confirming yes or no.

DCK
29-10-2005, 02:18 PM
If Nintendo were to do such a 3D technology they would be 1st in the market again in no time :shock:

It's still wishful thinking though.

New technologies are coming that will allow current 2-D films to be remastered into 3-D using proprietary procedures. George Lucas has announced that he will re-release his Star Wars films in 3-D based on a conversion process from the company In-Three. James Cameron (Titanic) will shoot his new film Battle Angel 2007 in digital 3-D. The following animation films are scheduled for upcoming release: "Chicken Little" Nov 4, 2005, followed in a few months by "Monster House" "The Ant Bully" and "Happy Feet". These are all animation based and will either release in digital in a few hundred theaters along with a 2D release or in IMAX 3D along with regular 2D 35mm. Both digital and IMAX are quite costly ways of showing 3D. Another approach being proposed is the upgrading of existing 35mm to show 3D with a six perf pull-down in the projector. Advocates of this, CINE 160 3D, point to 10 to 1 cost savings and proven results with film. (The film image is 1.6 times the conventional frame size.)

In late 2005 Steven Spielberg told the press he was involved in patenting a 3-D cinema system that does not need glasses, and is based on plasma screens. A computer splits each film-frame, and then projects the two split images onto the screen at differing angles, to be picked up by tiny angled ridges on the screen. (Spielberg is co-producer of the film "Monster House".) Even episodic TV series are embracing 3D, as NBCs "Medium" hits the home HD screens in 3D in late November 2005.
Hmmm, it doesn't seem we can do it with our good old TV :hmm:

demonmike04
29-10-2005, 03:31 PM
I was just wondering will you need the Gamecube controller to play Gamecube games?, as i haven't seen anything confirming yes or no.
Im guessing it will, or maybe the shell can also be used. Why put in 4 controller sockets? But then again, this is the prototype, what ever Nintendo gets rid of is upto them. But im guessing you will need them but there will be an alternative such as the shell.

DS MaNiAc
29-10-2005, 04:19 PM
he said a well known video game maker got the jump on hollywood and will be using it in its upcoming console in 2006.

Actually, this makes a ALOT of sence, since the Revolutions chipsets are nicknamed Hollywood and Broadway...

From IGN:
The chip is codenamed "Broadway," according to Nintendo. Meanwhile, ATI, which developed the GameCube's graphics chip, is underway with GPU for Revolution. The chip is codenamed "Hollywood," according to Nintendo.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594935p1.html

This could be wrong...but maybe the things are linked...I hope so.

Stocka
29-10-2005, 04:37 PM
Actually, this makes a ALOT of sence, since the Revolutions chipsets are nicknamed Hollywood and Broadway...

From IGN:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594935p1.html

This could be wrong...but maybe the things are linked...I hope so.
I believe it does link, and think theres a good chance it is all true.

mario114
29-10-2005, 05:08 PM
This is the kind of 3d illusions im talking about

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Flippant_Venus_Plunge.gif

http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/Nancy_and_Landon%27s_Hearth.gif


The effect of that diving one is way cool, lets hope ninty have something simular planned huh.

demonmike04
29-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Well there are numerous hints that we'l know more soon (Latest from Kojima).
But is this a step no one realised for Photo-Realistic graphics? Since, if you have realistic graphics, it will just just get plain, it'l be like controlling a TV show, but with this technique to mentally push objects out of the TV will realy make Photo realism worth while. But I still think Photo - Realism shouldnt happen for some time, because the vast majority of the gaming industry thinks this is the ultimate step, and if it is, what next?

Link
29-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Many people thought the 3-d graphics of the ps3 were going to be the ultimate step. The truth is, there's always new technology coming out and we don't know what the future has in store.

Big Red
29-10-2005, 05:51 PM
a special add on to the controller that amits short sharp volts when u get shot or injured.


but to be serius i would love to have more great playable titles and that would do me. instead of me going into the shop havin a long descusion about the top games comin out ,lookin around the shop and leavin empty handed.because most of the titles are just not my cup of tea

demonmike04
30-10-2005, 12:51 PM
Actually guys, i have the dreaded thought its PS3 using this.
A few months back, I watched the first Gundam PS3 game played on a video which I downloaded from IGN. I noticed it looked more three dimensional than any other next-gen games. So that was my first clue.
My second clue is the Devil May Cry 4 pictures, look at the one were the gun looks as if its pointing at you, it hints at the effects we just been talking about.
Any one agree? But I hope im wrong, but it does seem to add together.
The near realism pictures + New 3D techniques = Makeshift ultimate experience?

YenRug
30-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Actually guys, i have the dreaded thought its PS3 using this.
A few months back, I watched the first Gundam PS3 game played on a video which I downloaded from IGN. I noticed it looked more three dimensional than any other next-gen games. So that was my first clue.
My second clue is the Devil May Cry 4 pictures, look at the one were the gun looks as if its pointing at you, it hints at the effects we just been talking about.
Any one agree? But I hope im wrong, but it does seem to add together.
The near realism pictures + New 3D techniques = Makeshift ultimate experience?

There's a problem with that theory, though. Sony is the sort of company that wouldn't keep a feature, like that, secret. Sony would be crowing from the rooftops about how their's is truly a next gen machine and you shouldn't even be considering the competition. They did the same thing with the PS2 and Dreamcast, told people that they should wait a year for the superior machine; people did wait and found they got a system that wasn't quite as powerful as the Dreamcast. Right now, Sony would be telling everyone about this feature to spoil Xbox360 sales, plain and simple.

DCK
30-10-2005, 03:02 PM
There's a problem with that theory, though. Sony is the sort of company that wouldn't keep a feature, like that, secret. Sony would be crowing from the rooftops about how their's is truly a next gen machine and you shouldn't even be considering the competition. They did the same thing with the PS2 and Dreamcast, told people that they should wait a year for the superior machine; people did wait and found they got a system that wasn't quite as powerful as the Dreamcast. Right now, Sony would be telling everyone about this feature to spoil Xbox360 sales, plain and simple.
That's so right YenRug :D

If anyone will use it, Nintendo will. It still seems unlikely that it will happen though - if it's possible with regular TVs I can't imagine nobody has invented it before.

Charlie
30-10-2005, 03:19 PM
Its as if you want to lean forward and touch that fireplace. Stunning.

Yeah, and lean forward to look over the splash and see what the girl's wearing.... ;)


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How would they make it so the picture doesn't have to shake all the time? That's why it looks 3D.

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/7038/picture11fc.png

nicolasmasset
30-10-2005, 03:51 PM
Quote: How would they make it so the picture doesn't have to shake all the time? That's why it looks 3D.

-> Perhaps make it shake far quicker, so you wouldn't notice it anymore.



The thing is, if this would be true, the developers who got their hands on the controller at TGS would have to know then as they'd have seen it? Or perhaps nintendo didn't implement it yet as they were just tech demo's to primarily show off the controller and not so much the graphics, revolutionary or not. I must admit it fits perfectly in the big new-controller-different-viewing-way picture and it would be an absolute joy to play such innovative technology, but you got to admit, it does sound a bit toooooo good to be true doesn't it :)

The problem with us fans is that when we get excited we can link almost every bit of news together making some kind of sense just to fullfill our fantasy/dream about what we'd like it to be like. Remember all the mysterious patents and quotes that almost 100% made sense when we saw the On video? :p

By the way, the gundam video doesn't look 3D at all to me, the robot's are just portrayed in a more in-your-face manner to give them a more majestic, grandiose feel. Same with the in your face gun from Devil may cry. That's just playstation's "cool" thing in effect there.

PS: how the hell do you become "settled in" on these forums? I've been with cube-europe since the cube launched way back, and I post occasionally, but yet i'm still considered a newbie by forum default :indeed:

Charlie
30-10-2005, 04:06 PM
Quote: How would they make it so the picture doesn't have to shake all the time? That's why it looks 3D.

-> Perhaps make it shake far quicker, so you wouldn't notice it anymore.



The thing is, if this would be true, the developers who got their hands on the controller at TGS would have to know then as they'd have seen it? Or perhaps nintendo didn't implement it yet as they were just tech demo's to primarily show off the controller and not so much the graphics, revolutionary or not. I must admit it fits perfectly in the big new-controller-different-viewing-way picture and it would be an absolute joy to play such innovative technology, but you got to admit, it does sound a bit toooooo good to be true doesn't it :)

The problem with us fans is that when we get excited we can link almost every bit of news together making some kind of sense just to fullfill our fantasy/dream about what we'd like it to be like. Remember all the mysterious patents and quotes that almost 100% made sense when we saw the On video? :p

By the way, the gundam video doesn't look 3D at all to me, the robot's are just portrayed in a more in-your-face manner to give them a more majestic, grandiose feel. Same with the in your face gun from Devil may cry. That's just playstation's "cool" thing in effect there.

PS: how the hell do you become "settled in" on these forums? I've been with cube-europe since the cube launched way back, and I post occasionally, but yet i'm still considered a newbie by forum default :indeed:


50 posts I think.

Does someone clever want to edit those pictures so they shake really quickly and see what happens?

nicolasmasset
30-10-2005, 04:22 PM
I made a swf at 60frames per second and it totally did not enhance the effect. I don't know how to upload it though. Animated gifs don't go so fast. But anyways, the effect isn't 3D.

Pyxis
30-10-2005, 04:32 PM
Its rubbish talk guys...cookoo cookoo.

nicolasmasset
30-10-2005, 06:36 PM
dabookerman, yes they do.

Innovance
30-10-2005, 11:46 PM
haha you know what would really give that 3d effect the edge?? A PPU. A dedicated PPU and nintendo will have truly made a next gen console IMO its what sony and microsofts consoles are truly missing which is a surprise considering how much they have invested in graphics.
No talk of the price of the component as to why it wont happen cos frankly i dont buy that.

DCK
31-10-2005, 06:54 AM
haha you know what would really give that 3d effect the edge?? A PPU. A dedicated PPU and nintendo will have truly made a next gen console IMO its what sony and microsofts consoles are truly missing which is a surprise considering how much they have invested in graphics.
No talk of the price of the component as to why it wont happen cos frankly i dont buy that.
The price isn't a problem. The Xbox 360 and PS3 use a graphics chip that costs £300 if you buy it for your PC and the rest of their system is even more high-end than that. If you put it in a console and mass manufacture it, it costs very little.