Will Nintendo Beat Microsoft this time round?

[Kakarot]

Nintendo Came Third to Micrsoft in the last generation of conoles but in the next who do you think will be second after Sony?

[Moz La Punk]

Well, it's difficult to say right now. Remember, the Xbox 360 comes out this year, and the PS3 will sell good... but maybe not THAT good, considering it might have a high price.

Really, it's too early to say.

[Monopolyman]

I don't know. There is alot of buzz around the Xbox360, and may indeed sell more units than the PS3. So the real question is 'will Nintendo beat Sony?', in which I would have to say no. I'm sorry, I just don't see them climbing above 3rd place. However, I am pretty damn sure that they will sell alot more units than the GC and N64, and would very possibly leave a narrow gap between 1st and 3rd place, and could claim the greatest net increase between this gen and next gen.

So in conclusion, yes and no.

[Link]

Why does everyone take it for granted that sony will be #1. Their console will be SO expensive only the real diehard fans will buy it.

[Cheapshot]

Why does everyone take it for granted that sony will be #1. Their console will be SO expensive only the real diehard fans will buy it.

Well people flooded into stores in droves to buy the PSP...

[Stocka]

Not being funny, I think Revolution oculd turn out to be number 1 if all turns out well. Providing the graphics are on par with them, what can PS3/360 do that Rev can't? not much. I'm not denying that both will have great games but people usually buy consoles for their features that make them different from others, and PS3/360 have virtually none.

[Cheapshot]

Not being funny, I think Revolution oculd turn out to be number 1 if all turns out well. Providing the graphics are on par with them, what can PS3/360 do that Rev can't? not much. I'm not denying that both will have great games but people usually buy consoles for their features that make them different from others, and PS3/360 have virtually none.

You're naivite is what makes you great Stocka!

[Nintenchris]

Not being funny, I think Revolution oculd turn out to be number 1 if all turns out well. Providing the graphics are on par with them, what can PS3/360 do that Rev can't? not much. I'm not denying that both will have great games but people usually buy consoles for their features that make them different from others, and PS3/360 have virtually none.

Im with you on this one... but as long as the 3rd party support is there and the Rev dont miss out on any major 3rd party games... then i see no reason why the Rev cant make it to number 1

[Cheapshot]

Im with you on this one... but as long as the 3rd party support is there and the Rev dont miss out on any major 3rd party games... then i see no reason why the Rev cant make it to number 1

...in Japan - Those Japs will eat this up.

[ShadowV7]

i think they will be number one,PS3 will be expensive and hard to make games for Rev is opposite and as for 360 meh that will do not so well cause its microsoft that made itr :P

[Happenstance]

I can still see Nintendo coming third again next gen and Sony and Microsft battling it out for 1st and second. As much as I love Nintendo im afraid they have got too much of that stupid "Kiddy" company image stuck with a lot of gamers

[Cheapshot]

I can still see Nintendo coming third again next gen and Sony and Microsft battling it out for 1st and second. As much as I love Nintendo im afraid they have got too much of that stupid "Kiddy" company image stuck with a lot of gamers

The console looks stunning - it could sway the masses.

[RedShell]

Nintendo don’t need the Revolution to beat Microsoft in Japan! :grin:

But yeah, I too think that this is Nintendo’s best chance yet to reclaiming their number 1 position. After watching the presentation and seeing the controller video I’m confident that it’ll be a huge success worldwide and really will attract new gamers.

[ShadowV7]

Well people flooded into stores in droves to buy the PSP...
theres not much of a difference between DS and PSP compared to Rev and PS3,Rev maybe about 150 pound PS3 300+

[Cheapshot]

theres not much of a difference between DS and PSP compared to Rev and PS3,Rev maybe about 150 pound PS3 300+

I'd say around 200 pounds, the console and technology is indeed very swish this time around.

[ShadowV7]

there is quite a number of rumours flying around on the web places are stating $500 (quite a bit high) and gonna increase the price and delay the PS3 to nick the revs controller

[Hal_9Million]

I think it is still too early for these kind of questions. OK, I'll be honest and say that I would like it to happen, but there are just too many factors we don't know yet. The most important of course is games. We don't know what games the Rev. has, or how they will use the controller features. On top of that, we don't know any info to do with marketing etc. so it's still just too early.

But I'll tell you one thing, the Revolution is coming out at family get togethers at christmas and new year, and general parties at my house. It's perfectly designed for it. I can get people of all ages to join in. It will be great fun. I'd like to see the same happening with the Xbox 360.

[GoonFace]

We still need to see more of revo to judge this. We are yet to see what the third party surport will be like, and I believe that will be the main factor when judging who will win.

[ShadowV7]

We still need to see more of revo to judge this. We are yet to see what the third party surport will be like, and I believe that will be the main factor when judging who will win.
i hope we get told soon what 3rd partied will support rev,my head has been thinking about it for a while

[YenRug]

Hmmm, I see one problem with this argument, so far; the whole point of the Revolution is that Nintendo are not competing with Sony and MS. This is not some rampant fanboyism on my part, it's the basic ideology of the function of this new control scheme. To Nintendo, the important point is to make profit and then to make market share second; but their market share is not about who can capture the largest group of games, instead it's about making enough sales to create a viable marketplace for this system to survive in.

Obviously, Revolution is an entertainment system and as such draws immediate comparisons with PS3 and Xbox360, but as long as there is sufficient software produced specifically for the Revolution then ports will not be as important to Nintendo as they are to core gamers. OK, everyone on here will consider themself a core gamer and Nintendo do not desire to alienate you, however if they can sell enough machines to others then they will accept the situation that arises.

[Edjamakated]

You guys are forgetting something very important here...

The REV will hands down be everyone's second pick for a console, if of course, they hadn't already owned one.

The Rev will probably lose competing for gamers of this generation. However, they won't lose by much. With a very loyal and dedictated fanbase, a definite "second-choice" console, and Nintendo's new philosophy about appealing more to non-gamers, they won't lose. They may not gather in the gamers of this gen as well as say...the PS3, but they will definitely be on equal footing with them at the end of all of this.

Who knows, maybe they can attract more gamers from this gen (especially those FPS loving fiends).

Either way, it'll be very interesting to watch.

[YenRug]

The Rev will probably lose competing for gamers of this generation. However, they won't lose by much. With a very loyal and dedictated fanbase, a definite "second-choice" console, and Nintendo's new philosophy about appealing more to non-gamers, they won't lose.

I said pretty much the same thing in an e-mail to IGN earlier today, the Revolution is setting itself up to be the "also" console; it almost certainly would not win in a direct competition, but it's set to capture those core gamers who want the console that will offer them something they cannot find on their main choice. As it stands, barring "purchased" exclusives, most games are going to appear on PS3 and Xbox360, there will be little reason to choose between each version unlike this generation where you can easily choose the "better" version.

[Fierce_LiNk]

You guys are forgetting something very important here...

The REV will hands down be everyone's second pick for a console, if of course, they hadn't already owned one.

The Rev will probably lose competing for gamers of this generation. However, they won't lose by much. With a very loyal and dedictated fanbase, a definite "second-choice" console, and Nintendo's new philosophy about appealing more to non-gamers, they won't lose. They may not gather in the gamers of this gen as well as say...the PS3, but they will definitely be on equal footing with them at the end of all of this.

Who knows, maybe they can attract more gamers from this gen (especially those FPS loving fiends).

Either way, it'll be very interesting to watch.


So, in a way, it kinda pays to be an "and"-console. This seems to be becoming part of Nintendo's philosophy. Thinking about it all, Nintendo have always been about making money. They've never been in a position where they've lost money on a home console (as far as i know). So, for next generation, i believe they'll want to continue that trend.

[Haver]

Let's start how we mean to go on: it doesn't matter.

[ShadowV7]

time will tell who will be Number one,im getting my friends to buy a Rev as there second console (some are getting XBOX 360)none so far seem to want a PS3 ,its mostly Rev everyone i know wants,so i think it will do well in Europe and US (obviously do well in japan)

[dazzybee]

Tricky one, I think the market will close up. I think NIntendo will END UP being number one, maybe next gen. Im 99% certain Nintendo will be number one in Japan, and 3rd in the west - its all about HOW MUCH BY!!

My prediction will be Sony, NIntendo, Microsoft!! But very close!

[monkeyDluffy]

I think that with the range of prices and things on offer from the three that their could be a good evenish spread for all three consoles, with nintendo slightly increasing its current market share but with opening up new age groups to gaming therefore making its share about even with the other two.
The biggest thing for me will be release dates, with the 360 this christmas, PS3 maybe summer 2006 after E3, when will the rev be released? on the revo-europe main page Jim Merrick says he'll be disappointed if you can't play it a E3 2006, but where would that leave a release date, europe christmas 2006 if we're lucky? a year behind 360 and 6 months ish maybe behind PS3 that will be the problem, giving 360 too much of a head start.

[McMad]

Merrick did a dumb thing by saying that :no: , because now he has given some sort of idea that the Revolution is going to be quite far behind the other two on the release shcedule.

Though Iwata did state at one point that the Revolution will not be released that far behind its competitors. Arggghh!!:mad: we need more info and soon. E3 2006 is too far away dammit.

[monkeyDluffy]

maybe they are playing with us and the release will be sooner to surprise?! who knows?

[Mimternet]

Well you just have to look to the response to the XBox conference - what conference you might ask? XBox 360 seems pointless. If you want a console like that wait for the PS3 which will no doubt be more powerful, better and with far more support. If you want the future, you can get Revolution.

There's simply no contest for me. The old controllers are just that, old to me. I don't want to play with them now we have THIS.

[seamus_aran]

If you look at the "chav" gamer in the UK (i can't talk for the rest of the world) everyone seemed to want a xbox, but had a ps2. why? because xbox came out after. Now the xbox is coming out first I think they may all flock to the xbox. Heck even I'm considering getting one alongside my Revolution.

The sooner big markets like China open up where innovation is truly appreciated (having said that I know no chinese people - its in the East. Thats all I know) the sooner Nintendo will take over number 1 in the world. Short of an Apple takeover, NIntendo is never going to be number 1 in the west.

But its ok. I still luv it.

[Mimternet]

I disagree personally. It depends on the games. If Revolution has cool games it will sell to the chav market. I mean come on, a chav is gonna love pummeling an opponent in a fighting game with a virtual sword if the blood is gushing everywhere.

[Cubez]

I think the Revolution has a big chance of reclaiming much of the ground that was lost with the Gamecube and after the Nintendo 64. Because the Revolution will be the cheapest, has revolutionary controller / gameplay, huge library of past games and more. Nintendo is also in a much better position to make a console after Revolution because it hasn't put as much money in it as Sony. So the cycle can be much faster and Sony will have to do with their Playstation 3 for much longer which can be negative later on when the competitors move on and they still need to sell PS3 to make a profit lol.

[Samohtas]

I think the revolution will be no. 1 in Japan because of they love new ideas like DS.
No. 2 in America, beaten by Xbox 360 or ps3.
And in Europe no. 3 because of fanboyism.

[dazzybee]

I agree, I was really looking forward to a few games - Batallion Wars for example, I was (only in passing) thinking of possibly getting an 360, bt now it all seems boring, even when I was playing the cube this evening I was thinking about the revolution and how 'old' it's already starting to feel (the normal playing method) and thats with just afew hours worth of thought!! Crazy!

[Maiky-NiSuTe]

Nintendo might do it this time! but only if the 3rt party's come along.

[DCK]

I think one major point of the GameCube's 'failure' is that it's a childish toy cube for most people. People judge by looks first, and that means the design and not even graphics. Look at how incredibly sexy that Revolution is. It's so nice iPodish pearly white or incredibly sleek black with pretty though subtle blue LED lights.

We can't say what'll happen. But I think it might be a good guess (or wish) that the gaming business will get a healthy balance for once, each company owning a third market share.

[Zelda_Rulez]

I think Nintendo will be able to beat Xbox360. But they mustn't release the Revolution too far behind the other two consoles because this will hurt their sales. PS3 is sure to be first this generation again because the Playstation brand is just so poular.
Nintendo also has to advertise the Revolution well and they must continue to do so during it's lifespan. They advertised the Cube in the beginning too but I have almost never seen any adverts for new games for the last 2-3 years. This must not happen again with Revolution. Also there must be third-party support for all of it's lifespan.

If they just play their cards right they'll be able to come in second place this time.

[DCK]

How Nintendo handled the DS is a very good sign. And the DS isn't even as sexy (no I can't stop about the Rev's design :heh: )

[RATM_4_EVA]

I think the revolution will be no. 1 in Japan because of they love new ideas like DS.
No. 2 in America, beaten by Xbox 360 or ps3.
And in Europe no. 3 because of fanboyism.
Took the words right outta my mouth.

[Android18a]

I don't think the Revolution will hit quite the same market as the other consoles. It may end up selling less to current gamers, but bringing in a wider range of non-gamers. Just don't underestimate Microsoft. Live play rules, and the 360 should fix the issue of Japanese support that plagued the Xbox, even if it doesn't really do anything new.

[gaggle64]

if Nintendo came third, it was a very, VERY close third, and all parties stand to make a huge amount of cash. I don't think this console generation is going to pass by with anyone claiming that they beat the competition convicingly. I think we'll just have to wait and see what happens - this new controller alone appears turning the whole industry on it's head.