Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

[jammy2211]

Must go to school, great news on this one.

http://wii.consolegaming.eu/newspost.php?id=86

Bye!!!

[Zelda_Rulez]

This is awesome news. Matt was right after all :D. I hope we get some screenshots soon.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

More details:

http://true-gaming.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/160140_1.jpg

All right, details are little sketchy at the moment because we don't have better quality scan yet, but in latest Famitsu, Namco has announced four new "Tales of" games:

- Tales of Symphony 2: Knights of Ratatosk (Wii)
- Tales of Innocence (DS)
- Tales of Rebirth (PSP, port of PS2 game)
- Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (unknown platform, probably PS2)

I don't really know what to say, because it is obvious that Namco is oversaturating market w ith Tales of games. And only two of them are actually new. :hmm:

Thanks go to Neogaf users Aokage and King Zell.

[killer kirby]

It's good to see that the new games are for nintendo ^_^

[Teppo Holmqvist]

It's good to see that the new games are for nintendo ^_^

Breaking news from Neogaf:

At today's Tales press conference, the series producer announced that the Nintendo DS will be the lead platform for the Tales series going forward.

Why? Because the Tales series means:

- "A drama containing deep themes"
- "Sounds and visuals that showcase anime FMV, theme songs and voice"
- "The unique Linear Motion Battle System"

...and the DS is "more than capable of this Tales-ness"

Thanks go to neogaf user Aokage.

[killer kirby]

ehhhhhhhhhhh?....thats....thats....OMG THAT IS GREAT NEWS XD

[Zelda_Rulez]

Weird argumentation for that move, but I'll see how that turns out.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I agree. Why didn't they just speak the truth? Which is, "The DS is selling like hot cakes, so we want a piece of the pie."

[Jonnas]

More details:

http://true-gaming.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/160140_1.jpg

All right, details are little sketchy at the moment because we don't have better quality scan yet, but in latest Famitsu, Namco has announced four new "Tales of" games:

- Tales of Symphony 2: Knights of Ratatosk (Wii)
- Tales of Innocence (DS)
- Tales of Rebirth (PSP, port of PS2 game)
- Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (unknown platform, probably PS2)

I don't really know what to say, because it is obvious that Namco is oversaturating market w ith Tales of games. And only two of them are actually new. :hmm:

Thanks go to Neogaf users Aokage and King Zell.

Namco has been doing that for awhile. Some recent moves by Namco:

-Porting Tales of Symphonia for PS2;
-Remaking Tales of Destiny for PS2;
-Porting Tales of Phantasia for PSX, GBA and PSP;
-Porting Tales of Destiny 2 and Tales of Eternia to PSP.

Tales of Innocence: To my knowledge, Tales of Tempest was a huge letdown, so let's just hope that this game recovers.

Tales of Symphonia 2: Not much to sat except :yay:

[Hero-of-Time]

I agree. Why didn't they just speak the truth? Which is, "The DS is selling like hot cakes, so we want a piece of the pie."

Agreed, they are a business afterall.

Tales of Symphonia 2 is great news and doubt keep many a fan on here happy :)

[Excelle]

Can someone give me a summary of what Tales of Symphonia is like? I've heard it's very good, but don't know jack about it!

[harribo]

Can someone give me a summary of what Tales of Symphonia is like? I've heard it's very good, but don't know jack about it!

Basically its an RPG that is fucking awesome.

This is brilliant news I really have to finish the first one now I just can't remember what I've got to do next in it.

[Retro_Link]

Bigger picture,

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/13editeurs20070720_125230_0_big.jpg

[Melainon]

Great news! Tales of Symphonia is one of the best RPG's I've played. It's interesting that Tales of Symphonia contains things from norse mythology, e.g. the world tree Yggdrasil. What's even more interesting is that Ratatosk is a special squirrel that lives in the world tree, spreading gossip, and bringing insults between the eagle at the top of the tree, and the serpent Nidhogg at the bottom.

[immy]

Can someone give me a summary of what Tales of Symphonia is like? I've heard it's very good, but don't know jack about it!

it's an rpg with an good battle system that is let down by a terrible story and characters. And I mean terrible

[Oditri]

I actually liked the story on ToS. It was a little confusing, but it's great playing it a second time through knowing all the plot twists. It's great to play it with 2 or 3 people, I found that the computer did much better with Raine (think that was her name, the healer either way) than me or my bro did. We'd just started our 2nd playthrough when my bro took it off to uni. :weep:

I may be heading to ebay or gameseek (both of which should have copies of it), 'cos I've been looking for a game to play for a while. (well, ever since I finished stafox adventures)

[pedrocasilva]

Artwork:

http://i11.tinypic.com/67x5500.jpg

From the Scan:

http://i15.tinypic.com/62gydt3.jpg

Doesn't it look like Palmacosta?

EDIT: One more image:

http://i12.tinypic.com/54cauqa.jpg

Release date... Spring 2008 for Japan.



Also... shouldn't this thread be merged with:

http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15575 (?)

[Hellfire]

Oh yeeaaahs!
Now, shouldn't they translate tempest?

[Dyson]

I'm surprised we havn't got a translation of the scn yet :P

But OMFG...best news for a long time. My favourite RPG ever.

[pedrocasilva]

But OMFG...best news for a long time. My favourite RPG ever.Supposedly takes place 2 years after ToS, but main character is not Lloyd.

Also:

Ratatosk is a red squirrel who runs up and down with messages in the world tree Yggdrasill and spreads gossip. In particular he ferried insults between the eagle at the top of Yggdrasill, and the dragon NÃ*ðhöggr beneath its roots.

Let the speculation begin.Oh yeeaaahs!
Now, shouldn't they translate tempest?I doubt it, don't count on it. (it was made by studio Dimps and sold like 100.000 in Japan).

I they where to do that I'd rather have Destiny 2, Rebirth, etc translated for a console I own :D

[Emasher]

Do you think nintendo will offer to do the localization on KoR (or is the abbreviation ToS2) if namco bandi don't like with the origninal

this is awsome news better than anything we heard all of last week in my opinion

[ShadowV7]

I had an orgasm when I read it.Though I am displeased the main character isn't Llyod.I swear to Jebus that Lloyd and co better be in it or else the name of "Tales of Symphonia 2" is a lie.

[Dante]

PSP > WII :blank:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5001.jpg.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5002.jpg.jpg

[Emasher]

PSP > WII :blank:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5001.jpg.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5002.jpg.jpg

what this supposed to mean, was it a mistranslation and actually intended for the psp

[Dante]

what this supposed to mean, was it a mistranslation and actually intended for the psp

It looks like it should be on the PSP.

[Retro_Link]

It looks like it should be on the PSP.That's the DS game!

This is the only picture of the Wii game so far,

http://i15.tinypic.com/62gydt3.jpg

[Dante]

That's the DS game!
Nope, that is the wii game.

Here is the screenshot of the DS game.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_300.jpg.jpg

[Cube]

How is the PSP/Wii comparison fair anyway?

The PSP is 2D...

[Teppo Holmqvist]

The PSP is 2D...

Yup. And it is quite obvious that Namco is, for some reason, porting Tales of the Abyss engine for Wii instead of using Symphony engine.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5002.jpg.jpg

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/723/723308/tales-of-the-abyss-20060803053930061.jpg

Tales of the Abyss looks like an ass in screenshots, but quite lovely in motion.

[Retro_Link]

Nope, that is the wii game.WHAT!!

How can they let it look worse than the Gamecube game and like an upgrade of the DS game!

Compared to Symphonia...

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/514/514311/tales-of-symphonia-20040512051214399.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75629_5002.jpg.jpg

[Mokong X-C]

WOHOOOOOOOOOOO

THank you thanks you thank you

*goes into Meltdown*

OMG, not just a new Tales of game, but we are actually getting Tales of Symphonia 2, this is the best news since the Wii was announced.

It's like a dream..... oh god i hope i don't wake up anytime soon.

Though what the hell is this about Lloyd not being the main character? Hopefully it just starts off like that for awhile then Lloyd joins and becomes the focus and starts gathering up all the old crew (come on Sheena, wooooohooooooooo)

And as for the screenshot...i'll be optimistic and say it's early days yet, i'm sure they'll do the game justice

[Shorty]

Sounds cool :) might wind up being my 3rd or 4th Wii title if they get it right.

[The-Ironflame]

Not sure how they're going to do this, I would have preffered a brand new "Tales of" title.
Symphonia was sort of a Prequel to Phantasia anyway.

[Goron_3]

OMFG YEAH BABY YEAH!

I loved the GC version; must have gone through it 3-4 times including all the extra bosses and stuff.

Bit lame of them to use the Abyss engine and not the Symphonia one...but oh well. Wonder how they'll use the wii-mote?

[Melainon]

Great news! Tales of Symphonia is one of the best RPG's I've played. It's interesting that Tales of Symphonia contains things from norse mythology, e.g. the world tree Yggdrasil. What's even more interesting is that Ratatosk is a special squirrel that lives in the world tree, spreading gossip, and bringing insults between the eagle at the top of the tree, and the serpent Nidhogg at the bottom.

Pedrocasilva doesn't read my posts.:weep:

[Dante]

Screencaps

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/203401767620070720165814.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/143753425320070720165831.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/26225263120070720165839.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75630_tos500.jpg.jpg

[darksnowman]

Great news! Why wasnt this mentioned at E3 eh?!

I can't wait for more info to be made available, Wii controls should be fun... lets not judge the graphics too much yet - theres a good bit of time for improvement! I suppose we could see this in Europe for NEXT Christmas then? Thats groovy enough, with Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart in the more near future.

I'm sure that Lloyd, Genis, Colette and the gang'll be present and correct as well as Dirk and any others that havent died/ been killed off in ToS. The Norse info could provide us with some ideas of what might happen... but what we really need is some more snippets from Namco!

[Dante]

Tales of series

Wolfteam
-Tales of Phantasia
-Tales of Destiny
-Tales of Phantasia (remake)
-Tales of Eternia
-Tales of Destiny II (Team Destiny)

Namco Tales Studio
-Tales of Symphonia (Team Symphonia)
-Tales of Rebirth (Team Destiny)
-Tales of the Abyss (Team Symphonia)
-Tales of Destiny (remake) (Team Destiny)

Alfa System
-Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon
-Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2
-Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3
-Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology
-Tales of Innocence

Namco CT
-Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage
-Tales of Legendia

DIMPS
-Tales of the Tempest

TBA
-Tales of Symphonia: Ratatoskr no Kishi

[Mokong X-C]

Screencaps

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/203401767620070720165814.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/143753425320070720165831.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/26225263120070720165839.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75630_tos500.jpg.jpg

Is that from the actual show?

I hope so, i can't read kanji but going by the pics i'm assuming all those screens are of ToS2:KoR if so, the one in the fire themed area is the only one that seems a bit poor, and of the course the final one should be confirmation the original gang will indeed be there.

*waits for someone who can read japanese to crush hopes*

[pedrocasilva]

Pedrocasilva doesn't read my posts.:weep:Sorry :( earlier today I was like a kid at a candy store. :p

[EchoDesiato]

Yummy, Sheena's back according to that artwork. It's artwork from the Cube game though, so I might be wrong.

[Emasher]

Screencaps

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/203401767620070720165814.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/143753425320070720165831.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/26225263120070720165839.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75630_tos500.jpg.jpg

i'm pretty sure after seeing those screens that they are using the symphonia engine.

and its good to know now that the original characters will return.

how are they going to manage bringing back Zelos though. if you chose kratos he died.

we need someone to translate this asap.

[Dante]

how are they going to manage bringing back Zelos though. if you chose kratos he died.

Eh.. you just answer your own question Emasher.
If you chose Zelos or any of others than Kratos, Zelos lives.

[Emasher]

yes but if you chose kratos in the original game... perhaps KoR can check the save file on you gc memory card if you have them

[Ten10]

Finally completing billy hatcher today doesn't seem to matter so much now. All I want to know is why they seem to have chucked the muddy look. I loved the muddy look.

Anyway Namco are hoping to go for a Spring 2008 release for this, so not too far away but not too close.

Also Sword of Legendia seems to have been put on hold, as the sale day remains to be undecided.

[The-Ironflame]

yes but if you chose kratos in the original game... perhaps KoR can check the save file on you gc memory card if you have them

Only one ending Zelos dies in, so I think they may of went with the majority where he lives. Kratos is floating away on Derris Kharlan either way, I prefer Zelos in TOS2 and alive.

[Emasher]

All but one ending Zelos dies in, so I think they went with the majority.

i thought he died only in one ending

he is in the game acording to this picture i guess
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75630_tos500.jpg.jpg

[Melainon]

Sorry :( earlier today I was like a kid at a candy store. :p

I forgive you:) Now, let's revel in this most excellent of excellent announcements, and be joyful that one of the Gamecube's best rpgs is getting a sequel!:bouncy:

[James McGeachie]

I'm not very sure about this. I love Tales of Symphonia but when Matt was discussing this game a while back he seemed really negative and like it wasn't very hype worthy.

I think this is mainly based on the visual side of things, he said all that time ago it uses the "same engine" as ToS but I get the feeling he didn't mean it just as literally as that. More like the reason they're using the same engine is that this is going to be a pretty lazy sequel. I'm getting this rather forboding feeling the game will actually end up recycling the entire world from Symphonia as well, which in an RPG pretty much kills the game from the get go.

how are they going to manage bringing back Zelos though. if you chose kratos he died.

There are tons of games out there that are sequels to games with multiple endings. They just follow on from the most common one or whatever the developer's consider their "true" ending.

[The-Ironflame]

he is in the game acording to this picture i guess
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/07/20/h-103_75630_tos500.jpg.jpg

Apparently the translation to that pic is: The Symphonia characters whom made an appearance before will not only appear in this game, but they will also provide assistance ito the main character's journey.

[James McGeachie]

Yeah I'm sure that'll save them a lot of time creating new character models.

[Emasher]

Apparently the translation to that pic is: The Symphonia characters whom made an appearance before will not only appear in this game, but they will also provide assistance ito the main character's journey.

is there a translation to any of the other pictures?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

It doesn't really look so bad in other screenshots:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070720/tales22.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070720/tales21.jpg

[Mokong X-C]

Apparently the translation to that pic is: The Symphonia characters whom made an appearance before will not only appear in this game, but they will also provide assistance ito the main character's journey.

WTF? I hope to god that's a joke, if the main ones from the 1st game don't play a major (and playable) role, what's the point in giving it the "Symphonia" name, I don't think Namco are that stupid to seemingly give us what we want and screw it up that badly

[Teppo Holmqvist]

what's the point in giving it the "Symphonia" name

Because it has same world?

[Mokong X-C]

Because it has same world?


Well "Symphonia" is based in the same world as the SNES game Tales of Phantasia, but takes place like 1000 years before the SNES game, why didn't they use the "Phantasia" name instead of "Symphonia".

The name of the "Tales of" games don't refer to the name of the worlds they take place in. Infact there's nothing in "Symphonia" that refers to any by the name "Symphonia", making a new game called "Symphonia" should indicate a return of the cast from the previous game, and seeing as it is taking place only 2 years later why the hell not?

[The-Ironflame]

Off IGN: Moving on to the Wii Tales of Symphonia Knights of Ratatoskr, the Spring 2008 (Japanese release) title is, as mentioned in our initial update, a direct sequel to the GameCube and PS2 Tales of Symphonia, painting a new story three years after the events of that game. While story details are scarce, Bandai Namco did announce that the game's main character would be named Emil, and the heroine Malta. Lloyd and other characters from the original will also appear in the game.

Bandai Namco is working on some updates to the title for the Wii. Visually, the company claims that the graphics have been improved, with higher texture resolution. This is true of new dungeons and towns, and those that you might have visited in the original.

Gameplay is also seeing a few updates. The game will feature Wii-mote direct controls, allowing players to move around by pointing at sections of the map. While not strictly Wii related, the game will also include the ability to capture and breed monsters for use as allies in battle.

New main characters and breeding monsters eh?

[Mokong X-C]

Lloyd and other characters from the original will also appear in the game.


Well so they'll be there that's good, now just waiting for them to be announced as playable (not long after the start of the game hopefully) and playing a major role in the story...actually just thinking perhaps Lloyd will take on a "teacher" role for this "Emil", that could work.

Not sure about the idea of breeding monsters....Tales of crossed with pokemon...and maybe even a dash of Golden Sun...well so long as the battles are as good fun as in the first it'll be great

[DanielTimothy]

Can we really be too critical? Thank fuck there is going to be some sort of sequel! Thats some really great news, since when have new characters been a bad thing anyway? Especially if they win us over like Lloyd and Zelos?

I have to admit though, I don't like the look of the graphical style from those screen shots. I prefered the cell shading in the original game.

[Sméagol]

This is why I'm glad I own a Wii ;). This is fantastic news, especially after the disappointment that Golden Sun sequel turned out to be.. A new Golden Sun for DS would get me more excited than Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 combined.. While this new Tales games can't accomplish that same thing, it's immediately one of the games I'm most looking forward too (together with Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 obviously ;)).

Allthough I'll miss having Sheena (and Raine) on my screen at al times (;)), I'd like to play with an all new cast. I also liked the TOS 1 cell shaded look however.. But we'll see how TOS will look when it's finished.

Seeing this news made me remember to pre-order TOS OVA part 2 by the way ;).

I hope this does good things for the RPG genre on Wii in general.. This is the first major RPG isn't it? I hope many will follow, Baten kaitos perhaps? ;)

[DanielTimothy]

Smeagol, do have a twitch?

[Mokong X-C]

It's not that i don't want new characters, i just don't want the ones that made me love the first game to end up taking a back seat, the main reason i want a sequel to see how Lloyd and co's relationships grow further and how each character grows themsleves and really see how their actions in the first game effected the world a few years later (are half-elves still shunned, etc.)

Oh and of course on seeing the news i was compelled to make a vlog for my youtube, though my excitement makes me lose track of what i wanted to say a few times, but i think that's understandable :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phz3oePz3LM

[Emasher]

I think they called it ToS 2 because it takes place shortly after and has similar characters.

I can't wait to explore the Sylvar-alla (or whatever they call the joined worlds)

[jammy2211]

I think they called it ToS 2 cause the original sold excellently in both Japan and America and they want to build on the GameCube userbase who enjoyed the original and allowed it to eclipse 800k sales.

I'm really looking forward to the game though, good RPG's are hit or miss nowadays and the original was one of the best last generation. I think the Wii really needed an annoucement like this, a main series non port non spin off game, awesome! :)

[Marshmellow]

Wow, fucking awesome. ToS 2 is a wet dream gone crazy! All the characters are different though.:( Well either way I'll be getting this. Hope they don't 'F' it up though. Anyone know of what the story is, where it picks up from ToS etc. etc.

[The Bard]

Should be cool. "Best RPG ever" claims are hilarious though, because it's nothing of the sort. My sis got stupidly excited when I told her about it.

[pedrocasilva]

I'm not very sure about this. I love Tales of Symphonia but when Matt was discussing this game a while back he seemed really negative and like it wasn't very hype worthy.coming from him :laughing: let's hype Halo DS instead. :grin:

Now THAT's hype worthy. (not really)

[Sméagol]

Smeagol, do have a twitch?
I'm sorry, what?

[Pit-Jr]

Hopefully Collete re-loses her ability to speak

The overworld map in the original looked like a
PS1 affair. The new one looks a bit better.

I also like the sound of pointing to where you wanna go on the map. They shouldnt stop there though. It would be nice if you could point at characters during battle and have them do certain things manually.

Remember the ring menu from Secret of Mana?
That should be in every Wii RPG

[Calza]

Yeah I too find it funny how people say this the greatest RPG. To be honest I think it's just because the gamecube was starved for GC titles and you all clung to whatever you could get your hands on.

[Emasher]

I don't think its the best Game ever but not the best Rpg ever, thats just my opinion though

[The-Ironflame]

It's not the best RPG ever BUT it's a very well crafted RPG you have to say.
One of the most enjoyable and replayable RPG's I have played in a while.

[Marshmellow]

Ehh its still my favorite RPG.

[James McGeachie]

You know I don't know if there's EVER been a direct RPG sequel that uses the same characters in the main roles. This sounds a lot like Nippon Ichi done with Disgaea 2, completely new cast and the original bunch make cameos from time to time and some are directly involved with the story.

Honestly I wouldn't expect much from the old characters, Lloyd especially. If there likely to give anyone an important role in the new game's team it's probably more likely to be any of the other characters than Lloyd, since he was the main character last time and they wont want him in the "spotlight" again.

[Retro_Link]

You know I don't know if there's EVER been a direct RPG sequel that uses the same characters in the main roles. This sounds a lot like Nippon Ichi done with Disgaea 2, completely new cast and the original bunch make cameos from time to time and some are directly involved with the story.Isn't that what they did with Golden Sun 2 aswell? (haven't played the sequel).

[Zelda_Rulez]

I like the visuals, but they could use an upgrade. It's still early in development though so they probably will up them a bit. It looks a lot better in those newer shots though.I don't like the idea of clicking on the overworld, does this mean that we get an overworld like FFX, where you click on the locations but can't explore?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

I don't like the idea of clicking on the overworld, does this mean that we get an overworld like FFX, where you click on the locations but can't explore?

Yup. Same is with Tales of the World. Considering how barren "Tales of" overworlds always are, I don't know if that is so bad thing.

[pedrocasilva]

You know I don't know if there's EVER been a direct RPG sequel that uses the same characters in the main roles. This sounds a lot like Nippon Ichi done with Disgaea 2, completely new cast and the original bunch make cameos from time to time and some are directly involved with the story.Final Fantasy X-2, Tales of Destiny 2... Fire Emblem series :P (Path of radiance brings back most greil mercenaries)

Honestly I wouldn't expect much from the old characters, Lloyd especially. If there likely to give anyone an important role in the new game's team it's probably more likely to be any of the other characters than Lloyd, since he was the main character last time and they wont want him in the "spotlight" again.I don't think they're in the spotlight, we have two new main characters after all.

Also... I dunno if Llloyd and company will be represented in the same manner, because Lloyd and them used chibi representations, whereas this game uses a style more similar to abyss... Meaning probably a chibi Lloyd would look like copy pastes midget next to the main character.

That said I could be wrong analysing, but that's the vibe it gave me.

[Mokong X-C]

Yup. Same is with Tales of the World. Considering how barren "Tales of" overworlds always are, I don't know if that is so bad thing.

You could explore in Tales of Symphonia, just limited in waht you could find, first play through it was great cuz you didn't know where the towns and such were.

I always liked searching for item chests and those "hidden skit" scenes and such.

[Ten10]

Hate to be an ass, but if tos is anything to go by, we might not see this until late 2009 (which would be a shot to the chest) but my question is, does anyone know who the artist for this game is? I would like to say Kosuke but I'm seeing more of a Eternia style in the art work.

Edit:

I found out it isn't the great Godfather of tos doing the art work. Its Mutsumi Inomata. Famous for other tales games such as

Tales of Destiny & Destiny 2
Tales of of Eternia
Tales of Rebirth
Tales of of the tempest

And a few costume designs in Tekken 5.

[ShadowV7]

Tales of Symphonia took 15 months for us after it was out in Japan.If it's out in Q1 in Japan then likely Q3 09 for us (or about 2 years from now :cry: )

[Fresh]

More awesome cut-scenes couldn't hurt, some of the art in TOS was magical.

[Eddage]

More awesome cut-scenes couldn't hurt, some of the art in TOS was magical.


Definitely, this game needs a hell of a lot more anime cut scenes, they were just too beautiful!

[Emasher]

Tales of Symphonia took 15 months for us after it was out in Japan.If it's out in Q1 in Japan then likely Q3 09 for us (or about 2 years from now :cry: )

so Q2 09 for north america most likely then, wonder who will be doing the localization.

[ShadowV7]

Oh my god oh my god

Knights of Ratatoskr

Moving on to the Wii Tales of Symphonia Knights of Ratatoskr, the Spring 2008 (Japanese release) title is, as mentioned in our initial update, a direct sequel to the GameCube and PS2 Tales of Symphonia, painting a new story three years after the events of that game. While story details are scarce, Bandai Namco did announce that the game's main character would be named Emil, and the heroine Malta. Lloyd and other characters from the original will also appear in the game.

Bandai Namco is working on some updates to the title for the Wii. Visually, the company claims that the graphics have been improved, with higher texture resolution. This is true of new dungeons and towns, and those that you might have visited in the original.

Gameplay is also seeing a few updates. The game will feature Wii-mote direct controls, allowing players to move around by pointing at sections of the map. While not strictly Wii related, the game will also include the ability to capture and breed monsters for use as allies in battle.



Explodes

[Ten10]

The game will feature Wii-mote direct controls, allowing players to move around by pointing at sections of the map.
...
Explodes

Ok that is the part that I don't like. And brings back to my rememberance a skit in TOS where Lloyd is complaining about a lack of a quick jump option, and it being for lazy people. Clicking from town to town instead of walking from town to town, sounds like something made for lazy people.

[Jonnas]

Ok, I've been staying away from this thread way too long.

-Graphics update: I preferred Symphonia's graphics to Abyss' graphics, so I'm kinda disappointed in this. It's still fine, though.

-Wiimote functions: Not a bad idea, but as long as it is used on an explorable map. I hated not being able to explore world maps in Baten Kaitos. I don't care if Tales series maps aren't detailed. It's 10 times better than unexplorable maps. Unfortunately, I'll probably be disappointed in this.

-Characters returning: It's fine. I wouldn't want it any other way. Tales of Destiny 2 did the same thing and I hear it's a great game.

-Monsters in battle: Interesting idea for a Tales game. I love capturing monsters and stuff. That's why I like Quina in Final Fantasy 9 (oh, and Pokémon, of course). Will probably be used by a character. If so, that character is already in my party.

Ten10: The guy you mentioned. Does he only do the artwork or does he work on character design as well? I loved the characters in Tales of Destiny.

Tales of Symphonia hype: Of course it's a great RPG! Not THE best ever, since tastes vary, but great in it's own right (and my personal favorite RPG).
Engaging battle system, cool music (debatable), great plot (debatable) and, above all, amazing characters (undisputable. If someone tells me he/she/it didn't like any of the characters, he/she/it is probably lying). Plus, the game lasts a good while with the lengthy main quest and numerous side-quests.

[Ten10]

Ten10: The guy you mentioned. Does he only do the artwork or does he work on character design as well? I loved the characters in Tales of Destiny.


She will be doing both the art work and character design (Mutsumi). Maybe Kosuke was busy, or they didn't want to get him back after already doing work with Abyss, either way its a shame he's not back for a follow up.

[Jonnas]

She will be doing both the art work and character design (Mutsumi). Maybe Kosuke was busy, or they didn't want to get him back after already doing work with Abyss, either way its a shame he's not back for a follow up.

Whoa. It's a woman, my mistake.

Anyway, I like her art style and design as well, so there shouldn't be much problem. As long as the skit system is back, all is well (except the unexplorable maps :nono:)

[pedrocasilva]

She will be doing both the art work and character design (Mutsumi). Maybe Kosuke was busy, or they didn't want to get him back after already doing work with Abyss, either way its a shame he's not back for a follow up.AFAIK, I'd guess he did work for both versions of Tales of Fandom Vol.2 that came out last month, since it had characters from Tales of Phantasia, Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Symphonia.

[Paj!]

Oh Emm Fucking Gee.

Great, another reason I need a Wii!

Damn you Nintendo! :p

[Emasher]

Ok that is the part that I don't like. And brings back to my rememberance a skit in TOS where Lloyd is complaining about a lack of a quick jump option, and it being for lazy people. Clicking from town to town instead of walking from town to town, sounds like something made for lazy people.

That was a hilarious skit but i agree, i loved walking around the map (or flying riding or sailing) i don't think its an option for lazy people i think its an option for lazy programers

breeding monsters will make the game similar to pokemon and in a good way

[pedrocasilva]

Teaser website:

http://namco-ch.net/talesofsymphonia_wii/index.php

[S.C.G]

Truly Awesome news but they really need to have an explorable map because for a sequel to TOS, click to get from point A to B = part of the experience killed.

And what about...

"flying about on the Rheiards, that won't be possible anymore"

The explorable map was quite a big part of the game, especially considering the amount of land you got to travel across. I hope this changes cos I don't want to wait nearly two years for this to come out only to find part of the game is "missing" due to Namco taking shortcuts, they took none with the original TOS so why should they now?

Put in the extra effort Namco if this really is a true sequel.

[Ten10]

Apparently the game isn't so much of a sequel but a spin off.... which doesn't sound too good.

[Goron_3]

Apparently the game isn't so much of a sequel but a spin off.... which doesn't sound too good.

yeah that makes sense from what they've announced.

They obviously want to cash in on the Wii's early success.

[Hellfire]

Saying it's a spin off doesn't really make sense, as most Tales are unrelated to one another.

[Emasher]

There have been tales spin offs (there was a Namco produced puzzle game that's title started with "Tales of").

Perhaps the map we saw was just a map you get to help with navigation, and everything they told us about it was a mistranslation (sorry i wasn't trying to make this rhyme).

[pedrocasilva]

There have been tales spin offs (there was a Namco produced puzzle game that's title started with "Tales of").Tales of Fandom.

[DCK]

Oh dear, I hope this isn't going to be a FFX-2...

[Emasher]

I hope we get a trailer soon.

[Mokong X-C]

Teaser website:

http://namco-ch.net/talesofsymphonia_wii/index.php

cool, *page bookmarked*

[Ten10]

^
|
Updated every once in a blue moon. But hopefully all the tales of fandom crap stops popping up every week now.

[Zelda_Rulez]

A new scan of this game.

Link: http://gonintendo.com/?p=21805

[pedrocasilva]

A new scan of this game.

Link: http://gonintendo.com/?p=21805I know it was already posted... but just to turn the thread more colorful and not having to link elsewhere :)

Scan:

http://i15.tinypic.com/5yl2k9c.jpg (http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/212718610820070725085947.jpg)

[click to enlarge] (http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/212718610820070725085947.jpg)

I like :D But Namco should really revamp those shadows, make them detailed. That, and I bet what seems to be the overworld map and the fact that there isn't a party to be seen (only a guy kicking ass) must be worrying some.

*merge be dammed*

Wii Gets Tales of Symphonia Sequel
Namco Bandai announces Symphonia sequel Tales of Ratatosk.

Namco Bandai has recently announced it will release Tales of Symphonia: Knights of Ratatosk for the Wii. The sequel takes place 2 years after the events of Tales of Symphonia featuring new characters Emil Castagnier and Marta Lualdi. Fans of the series can expect to see familiar locales and characters from the previous game as well.

In a recent interview with producer Makoto Yoshidumi on Japanese publication Famitsu, he talks about the upcoming sequel.

"The reason why we did not name this Tales of Symphonia 2 is because the game concept is quite different from the previous game. Now players will be able to have monsters as party members and can level up together with the main characters."

Like Dragon Quest and other RPGs, players can have monsters join their party when meeting certain conditions after completing battles. Monsters will most likely be controlled by AI and simple commands might be included, but the producer is still keeping details under wraps.

Another change from the previous game is that there is no longer a field map. Players will use the Wiimote to point at locations on the map. After selecting, you will then enter into that location, whether it be a city or a dungeon, and this is where you can move and control your character. Knights of Ratatosk takes place in the combined world of Silvalant and Teseara which was recreated at the end of the first game. The game will feature the Linear Motion Battle which has become trademark to the series. Wiimote controls are expected to be in the game although not much has been talked about at this point.

Tales of Symphonia: Knights of Ratatosk is expected for a spring 2008 release in Japan.Source: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161485

[Mokong X-C]

Another change from the previous game is that there is no longer a field map. Players will use the Wiimote to point at locations on the map. After selecting, you will then enter into that location, whether it be a city or a dungeon, and this is where you can move and control your character. Knights of Ratatosk takes place in the combined world of Silvalant and Teseara which was

Ah for frack sake, i don't believe they'll actually taken this approach, damn it, they better make the towns and dungeons massive to make up for this. And and no rheards(sp?) then i guess, FRACK.

When they first said about using the pointer to navigate the map i thought it might be like in some PC games when you use the mouse and click on the map where you want the character to go but he still actually walks there and you get to explore.

crap, have they actually gone and ruined the dream?

[pedrocasilva]

crap, have they actually gone and ruined the dream?I think they're testing the Wii, like they've said DS is now their top priority... No wonder, the thing sold 19 million units in Japan... Wii is 3 million as of yet, and the idea is that is also sells to a more casual public, so rather than go all out their trying their luck.


This spin-off re-uses most assets (including places), bring a new mechanic into the game to make it fresh while they are also taking the oportunity to be experimental.

Incidentally the map was one of the biggest complaints about ToS because of the graphics, so they are just axing that one from the ground, even because deep down, they'd have to make a new one from ground due to *symphonia spoilers*

I'm still glad they're doing it though.

[jammy2211]

I think this isn't a project of the same size as the original, but I still think when all is done this is going to be a kick arse RPG for the wii probably at a time when the Wii still hasn't got many.

I think taking out a world map isn't too much of a loss, it shows a sort of laziness and rushedness over the game though which worries me. Saying that, the monster catching things sort of shows the opposite, so I'll keep optimistic :).

[DCK]

Well, it's obviously not a priority title was like Symphonia (no real Tales game was since then, it seems) but it should still be good. The overworld in Symphonia was far from great, in my opinion, so this isn't that bad.

[pedrocasilva]

Tales of the Abyss Cameo:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7577/tunagisequ03396395f51yy8.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4tkutdk.jpg

Team symphonia confirmed!? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Zelda_Rulez]

Good job on spotting that one. :)

[darksnowman]

Pedro, not that I'm doubting you or anything, but could you give a comparison or something that shows what you posted might confirm that its Team Symphonia?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Pedro, not that I'm doubting you or anything, but could you give a comparison or something that shows what you posted might confirm that its Team Symphonia?

Mieu (that ubercute blue creature) is sidekick character from Tales of the Abyss, which was Team Symphonia's last game.

[darksnowman]

Mieu (that ubercute blue creature) is sidekick character from Tales of the Abyss, which was Team Symphonia's last game.

Ah, ok. Thanks Teppo, I really couldnt figure out the link. :red:

Hopefully a Tales of Symphonia sequel like this should be safe in the hands of Team Symphonia!

[pedrocasilva]

More screenies!

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_0_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_1_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_3_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_4_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115838_5_big.jpg

Source: http://www.jeux-france.com/news21155_tales-of-symphonia-illustre.html

EDIT1: Updated website too:

-> http://namco-ch.net/talesofsymphonia_wii/index.php

[darksnowman]

Thanks for the screenshots Pedro, I'm fairly certain I recognise that location in the second one. :heh:

[Marshmellow]

Thanks for the screenshots Pedro, I'm fairly certain I recognise that location in the second one. :heh:

I recognise the first one as well. They look awesome!

[pedrocasilva]

The first image I posted...

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_0_big.jpg

(it's that village that was destroyed)

Lloyd Statue!?

[darksnowman]

Ah ok Pedro, I guess I didn't really recognise it as I've never repaired it! :o

What about the second one, I can't quite remember its name. Its near the start of the game, I even remember playing one of the Katz mini games with them as Genis there. And isn't where you get that flipping letter for Aifread (I think?) who I've never found to actually deliver it to!

Lol, I sure hope I'm thinking of the right place...

[immy]

3rd screen is really nice!

[pedrocasilva]

What about the second one, I can't quite remember its name. Its near the start of the game, I even remember playing one of the Katz mini games with them as Genis there. And isn't where you get that flipping letter for Aifread (I think?) who I've never found to actually deliver it to!If memory serves right... Izoold?

[Hellfire]

The first image I posted...

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_0_big.jpg

(it's that village that was destroyed)

Lloyd Statue!?

Didn't you repair the village?

[pedrocasilva]

Didn't you repair the village?I did, but I don't remember seeing a Lloyd statue (although now that you mention it, perhaps I did)

Gotta play Symphonia again sometime.

[ShadowV7]

I did, but I don't remember seeing a Lloyd statue (although now that you mention it, perhaps I did)

After you repair it you can build statues of characters.Ones Lloyd,I think ones Raine and the other Sheena?

Can't quite remember or if you select what statue of the character you want done,but there's definently statues in it.

[Dante]

Screenshot one is The rebuilt City of Luin.
Screenshot two is Izoold's Port.
Screenshot three is Altessa's house area.

This screenshot is Hakonesia Peak.
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520070730_115837_2_big.jpg

[Problematique]

Seems nicer than ToS. Has a more Baten Kaitos style (but not as sort of dreamy as that if you know what I'm chattin' about)

[DCK]

Nice to see the game is a bit more colourful. Although the first game was meant to be colourful it seemed the colours didn't come across too well. The graphics don't seem improved except that, but I'm not complaining.

[pedrocasilva]

More images:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/h-104_75785_s3.jpg.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/h-104_75785_s4.jpg.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/h-104_75785_s6.jpg.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/h-104_75785_s7.jpg.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/h-104_75785_s8.jpg.jpg

Source: http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/24/104,1185282478,75785,0,0.html

[Marshmellow]

The map, and especially the Luin picture is teh sex! But I'm not a huge fan of the battle pictures tbh.

[pedrocasilva]

Better images:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos02.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos03.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos04.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos05.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos06.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos07.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos09.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos10.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos11.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos01.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos08.jpg

Source: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos.htm

[Problematique]

Luin's looking nice :) well. I did what I wasn't supposed to do and I'm playing ToS again. Did the hard way (going to the north part of Sylvarant instead of going to Palmacosta first). And I became soulmates with Sheena before even getting to Tethealla. I guess this game is going to assume that Lloyd and Colette ended up again. Which is a shame really.

[DanielTimothy]

Be honest, It looks the same if not worse as the gamecube version.

[Marshmellow]

Better images:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos02.jpg

Source: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070806/tos.htm

I see something wrong with this picture... Anybody else?

[killer kirby]

Wasn't there a statue of each character in the town, but at the moment all I keep seeing is statues of Lloyd

[ShadowV7]

I see something wrong with this picture... Anybody else?

I would of said what Killer Kirby said,also along with no people in the pictures :heh:

[Marshmellow]

Exactly! That statue is supposed to be Sheena! And there is nobody but I'm sure there will be in the final game.

[pedrocasilva]

TGS image:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jeice007/05nf0.jpg

2 fighters at once confirmed.

[Emasher]

Do you mean at least two or only two? Don't most tales games have 4, or was that just symphonia and phantasia?

[pedrocasilva]

Do you mean at least two or only two? Don't most tales games have 4, or was that just symphonia and phantasia?Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk is a spin-off, therefore different than our regular Tales game... you have those two main characters we've seen and then... seems like you're supposed to capture enemy monsters and... train and evolve them.

We didn't have a picture showing the hero and the heroine in the same fight before this, so it was unknown if they ever fighted together.

You probably end up having as many characters on screen as in Symphonia, thing is... they're captured by you, in similar fashion to Dragon Quest Monters: Joker for the DS. (again, I'm going by the description, the details are scarce)

[Ten10]

Keep in mind with tos you only started with 3 characters which even drops to as low as two or one at times. So most likely once you get into the game your party will expand.

[Emasher]

Keep in mind with tos you only started with 3 characters which even drops to as low as two or one at times. So most likely once you get into the game your party will expand.

Your forgetting the missions where you go as Lloyd alone.

[Zelda_Rulez]

TGS 2007 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4hOu1aTaU&eurl=) with a glimpse of Lloyd at the end. The music is Fighting of the spirit from TOS.

[Ten10]

Your forgetting the missions where you go as Lloyd alone.

Doesn't that count as one?

[pedrocasilva]

TGS 2007 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4hOu1aTaU&eurl=) with a glimpse of Lloyd at the end. The music is Fighting of the spirit from TOS.Holy CRAP!!! It's older Lloyd!!!

[Ike]

Looks awesome. Hope this one comes out in EU unlike the PS2 ones ¬_¬

[ShadowV7]

TGS 2007 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4hOu1aTaU&eurl=) with a glimpse of Lloyd at the end. The music is Fighting of the spirit from TOS.

Oh my god LLOYD!!! :bouncy:
Oh that footage was aswesome just because Lloyd was in it at the end. It was soo cool.

Game looks freaking awesome.

[Ten10]

Heh who's up for a tos speed run a month or two before this comes out. I'm seriously going to vanish for a few months when this comes out.

[ShadowV7]

Heh who's up for a tos speed run a month or two before this comes out. I'm seriously going to vanish for a few months when this comes out.

I am. And i'll complete it more than once. I love that footage. Can watch it over and over again and the way Lloyd enters is freaking ace.

Oh god I need this game.

[ghost_zero]

I hope they put the typical Tales multiplayer possibility in it - even if it would be only for two people (although I hope there will be more heroes and that you can play with 4 people; although I wonder if you might be able to control the "monsters" yourself too)...
Also: Will you only be able to have one monster at the time (the trailer only used three of the four char slots at max, although there is place for a fourth one - if you are only able to have one monster at the time this might mean at least a third hero?)..?

[pedrocasilva]

I am, if I have the needed time at that point in time... specially cool if we somehow organize it so we start all at the same time.

[Emasher]

So at least two characters and a monster confirmend. I liked the look of that one monster you get to tame. Wonder why Lloyd didn't just...

Use his wings to get across the lava thing (unless he destroyed his crusux(sp) christal already)

If the story is anywhere close to as good as the original, this is going to be one of the best Wii games yet.

[ghost_zero]

One other question: Is it sure this game will make it to Europe?
Otherwise I really need a Wii Freeloader ASAP :)

[killer kirby]

I am, if I have the needed time at that point in time... specially cool if we somehow organize it so we start all at the same time.


But we also need to know if everyone will do the sidequest as well, or just the main game.

[ShadowV7]

I think some people aren't aware if they've even done all the sidequests in game before though and it would really take ages for some people.

If we do some it should be well known and good ones like beat Abyssion,Skeleton guy and get all the summon spirits.

[Emasher]

There's only one summon spirit (maxwell) that you don't have to get in the main quest. I wonder if this game will even have summon spirits.

One other question: Is it sure this game will make it to Europe?
Otherwise I really need a Wii Freeloader ASAP :)

Better chance of this game coming to europe than of a wii freeloader being made that nintendo doesn't immediately release a security update to get rid of.

[jammy2211]

One other question: Is it sure this game will make it to Europe?
Otherwise I really need a Wii Freeloader ASAP :)

The original sold very well in Europe so I'd assume it's likely.

[Ten10]

I'm sure we can draw something up in the tos thread. I'm replaying it so I'll probably think of the things we definately should do. I mean I don't think everyone has done the cursed book quest before. Which is nice to do but it does require alot of time. So there are things we should keep and throw out.

[Mundi]

One question in ToS 1 was there any way to change the camera angle when figting?
Because me and my friend played trough the game and the whole camera only following player 1 was kinda annoying....

[Ten10]

Yeah it was annoying. It was fixed in the ps2 collector's edition of the game. But in the cube version the camera didn't have multiplayer in mind.

[pedrocasilva]

Yeah it was annoying. It was fixed in the ps2 collector's edition of the game. But in the cube version the camera didn't have multiplayer in mind.PS2 version only supports 2 players in multiplayer mode though.

Since ToS is out of print... We really should pressure Namco into making a Symphonia Wii Edition (like RE4 Wii Edition) a ultimate version with 16:9, progressive scan, budget price, the extra PS2 FMV's, costumes and extras and well... the GC framerate, 4 player option and all that was best for that version.

If they're gonna sell ToS:KoR as a sequel they'd better have the first one on the shelves and it is more likely to fly from them if it's a rebranded Wii Game.

[ShadowV7]

Wii edition would be pretty cool. Naturally i'd get it for all the extras and especially for those cut scenes cause they looked beautifull.

[ghost_zero]

Better chance of this game coming to europe than of a wii freeloader being made that nintendo doesn't immediately release a security update to get rid of.

Well: You could make the FreeLoader a Wii channel (which would be way better because you won't need to swap disks) - SD Card - or whatsoever which is updateable through the internet - otherwise with the updates it isn't very useful - (this is important because i think once the FreeLoader works they can only blacklist it or similar things but probably not change anything that won't allow it to work but even if, it would still be possible to update it - over PC or Wii)...

Although personally: They should just remove that stupid idea of region-lock as hey had planned... I guess the main reason really is Europe with thinking they might not sell as much or whatsoever (well: I guess this could happen if they take as long as the e.g. needed for Super Paper Mario or don't release games at all)

[The Lillster]

Well: You could make the FreeLoader a Wii channel

No you can't because the wii channels are encrypted.

[ShadowV7]

I hope they hurry up with the Freeloader soon though. They can hopefully find a way to Bi-pass it all so Nintendo can't do a security patch. Like have a small SD card that you put in, load something from it so when it goes to scan the disc, it doesn't stop the scanning of certain discs like the Freeloader or change the scanning to it doesn't block the disc.

There's gotta be a by to bypass some of the scanning so it doesn't get blocked and it justs reads the game normally.

[ghost_zero]

No you can't because the wii channels are encrypted.

That doesn't mean you can't...
But well it is not very likely... That is correct...

BUT you could still make the Freeloader updateable or whatsoever...

[Mokong X-C]

TGS 2007 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4hOu1aTaU&eurl=) with a glimpse of Lloyd at the end. The music is Fighting of the spirit from TOS.

How in the blue hell did i miss this:eek: :eek: :eek:

Holy crap that was great, they've kept the music from ToS, which was brilliant it all gave me chills... and the clip of Lloyd at the end, LOVING IT.... though with all the fire round him and the ominous fade... i wonder could something have happened that makes Lloyd go evil?:shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

[Ten10]

You know I'll be really pissed off if Lloyd did turn evil or something. But lets just hope for the best, and say maybe someone burnt his house down.....

[Mokong X-C]

You know I'll be really pissed off if Lloyd did turn evil or something. But lets just hope for the best, and say maybe someone burnt his house down.....

And Killed Dirk !!!!!!!!

NNNNOOOOOOOOO:shakehead

Well he could have gone evil in a Kratos kinda way... and would be a good reason why he's not the main character again?

[Ten10]

But don't forget about the dream. To collect all the exsphere so that no one would have to suffer. The only reason I could think of a way they could make him out to be evil is if it drove him to madness.

[harribo]

Just looks like a cool way to show him entering the game to me.

[Emasher]

Perhaps he's in a fire dungeon. I wonder if those lion things are bosses.

I hope we don't have to capture all the enemies as a side quest, Just getting there monster data in the original was enough to drive me mental and I've I didn't even finish.

[Mokong X-C]

But don't forget about the dream. To collect all the exsphere so that no one would have to suffer. The only reason I could think of a way they could make him out to be evil is if it drove him to madness.

Ah that would be a good reason would it not... would be an unexpected twist too (well not so unexpected now maybe), and then as the new characters travel round they come across the "old crew" who then join up and help them to fight/save Lloyd, When they reach him they have an epic battle, at the end Sheena and Lloyd end up face to face in a cut scene, Sheena trying to reason with him, Lloyd mad with power, eventually Sheena expresses her feelings for Lloyd (well this is how i'd like to happen), and this helps free his heart and bring him back. This then turns out to be only the half-way point of the game, with Lloyd turning good once more, the true enemy is revealed who was controlling Lloyd. Lloyd takes control of the team once more to fight this evil... at the end when they win, Lloyd and Sheena ride off into the sunset on Noishe(sp?).

: peace:

(this post may have just forced Namco to go back to the drawing board, start again and delayed the game... i'm sorry)

[ShadowV7]

I love your TOS stories Mokong :heh:

Though I must admit I am a Lloyd/Sheena fan and I want that to happen aswell, forget about Colette.

[Emasher]

Ah that would be a good reason would it not... would be an unexpected twist too (well not so unexpected now maybe), and then as the new characters travel round they come across the "old crew" who then join up and help them to fight/save Lloyd, When they reach him they have an epic battle, at the end Sheena and Lloyd end up face to face in a cut scene, Sheena trying to reason with him, Lloyd mad with power, eventually Sheena expresses her feelings for Lloyd (well this is how i'd like to happen), and this helps free his heart and bring him back. This then turns out to be only the half-way point of the game, with Lloyd turning good once more, the true enemy is revealed who was controlling Lloyd. Lloyd takes control of the team once more to fight this evil... at the end when they win, Lloyd and Sheena ride off into the sunset on Noishe(sp?).

: peace:

(this post may have just forced Namco to go back to the drawing board, start again and delayed the game... i'm sorry)

Yea it would be Colette not Sheena, And I bet Noish is going to evolve into a Man in this game (talk to a certain one of the elf children if you don't understand what I'm talking about).

If we knew what the basic story of KoR we could probably easily fit in how the old team comes back.

Lloyd- Track Down All exspheres
Colette- Help Lloyd
Genis- Start a campaign for Half Elf rights
Raine- Help Genis
Kratos- Goes off to derris Karlan and is never heard from again
Sheena- Becomes cheif of Mizuho
Zelos- Becomes advisor to king of tethealla
Presea- Did something that had to do with her sister though I cant remember what it was
Regal- helped Presea

[Ten10]

I think Presea wanted no one to be like Alicia. But I'll just quickly beat Mithos and come back to you on that.

[Mokong X-C]

Yea it would be Colette not Sheena, And I bet Noish is going to evolve into a Man in this game (talk to a certain one of the elf children if you don't understand what I'm talking about).



No, i think Lloyd and Colette's relationship should be more like that of a brother/sister... and actually nice idea about Noishe, (i remember that elf story) and maybe after that he becomes a controllable character.

(woops just got another idea)

What if Noishe had already evolved to human form, but also has the power to de-evolve at will. What if Noishe is the ultimate evil (in my little twisted tale), Noishe hung around with Kratos and then Lloyd knowing one of them would have the strength to beat Mithos and then collect the exspheres. Noishe couldn't do this on his own cuase he's actually weak but after Lloyd managed to gather a large amount Noishe takes them from Lloyd and gains a massive amount of power, and uses it to turn Lloyd evil and into his minion, ala Darth Vader

:heh:

[ShadowV7]

It would be Sheena and Lloyd since as Mokong mentioned, there more like brother and sister. Plus there was several hints about Lloyd and Sheena during the first game.

I think it would be great if they developed things from the sidequests of the first one and brought them forward to this one like Noishe for instance.

I'm hoping for a mention of Kratos from Lloyd or someone or maybe get to know how he's doing...

[Ten10]

Scratch what I said about beating Mithos since I forgot my memory card got wiped. Moving on. I very much doubt it will be Sheena x Lloyd relationship that we would all want as it isn't the main basic storyline. Unless they do something like in pop3 where they say many people believe this is what happened but the true story is......

It happened to me again. Instead of Lloyd saying Goodbye Mithos after smashing him into dust. He just goes 'I was just warming up'. Admittedly the fight only lasted a minute and a half.

And Presea decides to help Regal with helping to revitalise the world with various building projects as the new direction for his company. Kratos also discards Cruxis' Exspheres into space.

[Emasher]

It would be Sheena and Lloyd since as Mokong mentioned, there more like brother and sister. Plus there was several hints about Lloyd and Sheena during the first game.

I think it would be great if they developed things from the sidequests of the first one and brought them forward to this one like Noishe for instance.

I'm hoping for a mention of Kratos from Lloyd or someone or maybe get to know how he's doing...

I thought there were more hints about Lloyd and Colette. I'll have to replay it.

[darksnowman]

I thought there were more hints about Lloyd and Colette. I'll have to replay it.

Yeah I always thought it was Lloydo and Colette - sorry you other guys, I never used Sheena at all! I was going to in my second play through, but then I was gonna use a different party altogether in it. :heh:

[Ike]

Yeah I always thought it was Lloydo and Colette

You could pick who had the best relationship with Lloyd.

[darksnowman]

You could pick who had the best relationship with Lloyd.

Yar I realise that, it seemed most natural for it to be Lloyd and Colette I thought. Sheena was alright, but Lloyd couldn't handle her, imo.

[Emasher]

You could pick who had the best relationship with Lloyd.

You could make other characters like Lloyd better but all that that changed was the ending and Kratos had to like you for you to be able to chose him.

[Mokong X-C]

Yeah but i always felt that there were more moments between Lloyd and Sheena where you get the impression the two really like each other but don't say it. The biggest of which is when making their heading up the tower of salvation and you start losing characters one by one, the scene with Sheena seemed to have most emotion between the two.

And the feeling i get from Collete is more of a close friend or sibling at best, but nothing more

[Emasher]

But there wasn't really a scene with colette like that because she was captured before hand.

[Mokong X-C]

but she did get kidnapped after all, and i just felt more (hidden) emotion from Lloyd when he lost Sheena than when he lost Collete. Sure he did go through that whole tower and its traps to save Collete, but that was also to stop Mithos and save the world which required them to save Collete in the process

[pedrocasilva]

Better quality trailer:

-> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26272.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26272.html?type=wmv)
-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM3zkx5krfE

[Deathborn]

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520071214_102822_0_big.jpg

[killer kirby]

I am still unsure about this game.
Would much rather see a prequel showing the story around Mithos and crew

[Hellfire]

I am still unsure about this game.
Would much rather see a prequel showing the story around Mithos and crew

A prequel of a prequel? mmmm

[Tales]

Well, the original ToS is kind of a prequel to a prequel now.

I got really excited after seeing the trailer. Playing through familiar towns with new cast and goal and with ToA battle system will be awesome. And the main girl protagonist is actually cute this time.

[ShadowV7]

I'm not gonna lie here, but I didn't like Collette very much. She gets in the way all the time and totally stole Lloyds thunder at the end when he was swinging the sword.

I barely had her battling :heh:

[darksnowman]

Shadow thats heartless. I mixed my battle party around a bit to try the other characters out, but Colette was more often in mine that not. It was Sheena that you all love that I left out all the time because she didn't seem to do anything! :heh:

Hmm, as for the latest scan... not much to say, there are only three screenies on it.

[ShadowV7]

You left out Sheena? I kept her in cause she was one of my favorite characters and some summons where good.

I had Lloyd,Sheena,Genis and Raine usually. Though my first and third play through I had Collette in there at times cause she had some good moves.

I want another trailer to watch though. It's been so long. Also hope that translation won't take too long cause I seriously need this as soon as possible and I really want to have the same amount of play time as the first.

[Hero-of-Time]

Collette annoyed me to no end, I just plain hated her. Lloyd, Kratos and Regal were my favs as they were all hard as nails.

[pedrocasilva]

Collette annoyed me to no end.Me too, the game actually came close to being a parody, as... after half the game wishing she somehow lost her voice... well, she did.

The feeling i get from Collete is more of a close friend or sibling at best, but nothing moreI think she's meant for the japanese public as Lloyds love interest (I know, it plainly sucks) kinda like Mint was meant for Cless in ToP (Arche :heart: Forever, here)

Yes, it's close to sibling love, but don't Japanese love that "childhood friend" cliché?

[Hero-of-Time]

Yes, it's close to sibling love, but don't Japanese love that "childhood friend" cliché?

Indeed.

I hate it aswell how its always a bunch of kids who go and save the day. Are the adults too busy at work or something? Or is it that once puberty hits you lose the ability to summon giant creatures, cast magic spells and fight off monsters.

[pedrocasilva]

I hate it aswell how its always a bunch of kids who go and save the day. Are the adults too busy at work or something? Or is it that once puberty hits you lose the ability to summon giant creatures, cast magic spells and fight off monsters.Just like once puberty hits you stop believing in Santa Claus. :heh:

Well, Lloyd and it's gang are made to be younger due to their chibi appearance in the game, I don't really like it, but I'd have nothing against them being represented as they are in the artwork. What pisses me is a cast with 14 year olds like it's the case with Tales of Innocence.

But problem for me is their need to have an attitude, for instance Link in Zelda games is often 16 and yet we never complain, because he reflects ourselves in the game, not a kid.

In a lot of games 16 year olds behave like 9 year olds on a bad day of sulking, the guys who write the argument think puberty means having a lot of problems and elemental questions like "who am I? What am I for?, etc (even if they're small to the point of no one giving a damn about them) due to that things end up being meaningless, forced and overexagerated, taking credibility from characters as well as their likable features, and turning them into japanese stereotypes, as well as often making the side characters more likeable than the leading ones.

That's something that really should change, but it's not that easy; developers see a lot of risk in straying from that, as well as going the realistic numbered FF'ish route; only FF gets away with that in japan, the other would just sell better with chibi characters. (this said, despite the visuals, recent FF's are not mature at all)

Seems like Japanese have problems growing up, seeing that they seem to always have a fetish for Lolita's and rather play games with kids.

[Ten10]

In other news Misono Koda who goes by the name of just misono, from the once popular Japanese pop group day after tomorrow has been asked to sing the theme song for the game. Here is a poorly translated google/ babelfish collaboration from her blog forced into proper sentences:

Bulletin

As with the Gamecube edition of Tales of symphonia ‘Starry heavens’ by day after tomorrow, and with the PS2 Edition of tales of symphonia with ‘the thing that can be made 1’. ‘Vs’ opening tune for tales of the tempest. With the spring 2008 release schedule for Knights of Ratatosk it came to the point of singing the theme tune. The tune
Came to the poin of being included in the second album (due to release March 08)

The rest I can’t seem to make any sense of or just isn’t worth including.

Source: misono's Mii diary (http://misono1228mii.blog49.fc2.com/?vcr=623f78c1b0de1c7b4d3762d0d1785007)

Now I'm going to bed.

[ShadowV7]

Some new scans with familiar faces :D
http://i7.tinypic.com/6q3v155.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/82izi10.jpg

Lloyd, Collette, Genis and Zelos is there but no idea what the scan says. I think it looks good graphic wise because there's no chibi faces anymore. Man I can't wait for this.

[darksnowman]

The text says that the three characters there are called (from left to right) Emil, Marta and Richter. :p

Where do you see Genis at? Just in that piece of art in the bottom corner, or is he in one of the screenshots?

[ShadowV7]

Just a small piece in the corner. That's all I can make out aswell :heh:

I want to see what the text says and see if it mentions Lloyd anywhere...

[Mokong X-C]

full translations needed... now all i need is a screen shot with Sheena and Kratos and i'm happy

[Dante]

New Scans

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520071219_160440_0_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/60041520071219_160441_1_big.jpg

[ShadowV7]

They were posted at the last page. Damn posting on the last post of the page >.<

Still translation is needed.

[Fruitgun]

Yay! A pic of Zelos!

Ok, I officially need this game :heh:

[Zelda_Rulez]

It looks really good on those scans. I hope we'll see Kratos back too.

[Dante]

Looks like Colette joins the new team in the 2nd scan.

[ShadowV7]

Screw Collette. Lloyd,Sheena and Kratos FTW!!!

Though since Collette is in it i'm immensly hoping Lloyd will join in now. Please NAMCO PLEASE!

[Tales]

Screw Collette. Lloyd,Sheena and Kratos FTW!!!

Though since Collette is in it i'm immensly hoping Lloyd will join in now. Please NAMCO PLEASE!

Agree. I hope Collette falls again, but this time down a cliff >_> Card fighting ninja summoner ftw!

[Jonnas]

Hooray, Zelos appears once again!

And he, Lloyd and Collette are looking good in this new style.

*prays for a Sheena, Regal and Kratos to appear*

[Vicar]

Am I the only in the notice Ginies

yells "GRAVITY WELL"

[Tales]

New info

All eight from ToS I shows up in ToS II.
Collette is playable.
Collette has wings
You can catch monsters and use them in battles
The battle system is called FR-LMBS(Flex-Range Linear Motion Battle System) I think this is the same system as in Tales of the Abyss. You can run around at free will by holding down a button, but you can not attack while free run. While attacking you will run forth and back like in ToS.
Will be released in Japan spring 2008.

[ShadowV7]

Make Lloyd and Sheena or atleast Lloyd playable and contine the Lloyd/Sheena story!!!

Camman Namco delay the game if you must. Have them in playable form.

[marcel]

I hope it has 480p and widescreen. Or else it will be doomed in 75% of all reviews and be burned to the ground because the lack of it. And nowadays only ghost squad has a 4:3 aspect ratio(at least I remembered).

[Maiky-NiSuTe]

it is about time Nintendo goes to a higher resolution. especially seeing the HDTV's selling like hot cakes here in the Netherlands

[Mokong X-C]

New info

All eight from ToS I shows up in ToS II.
Collette is playable.
Collette has wings
You can catch monsters and use them in battles
The battle system is called FR-LMBS(Flex-Range Linear Motion Battle System) I think this is the same system as in Tales of the Abyss. You can run around at free will by holding down a button, but you can not attack while free run. While attacking you will run forth and back like in ToS.
Will be released in Japan spring 2008.


Nice one, will be great to see the full crew appear again. Can't wait to see how their relationships will develop, Lloyd and Sheena especially, *Come on Namco, make it happen* and hopefully they'll all be playable too: peace:

[pedrocasilva]

I hope it has 480p and widescreen. Or else it will be doomed in 75% of all reviews and be burned to the ground because the lack of it. And nowadays only ghost squad has a 4:3 aspect ratio(at least I remembered).*gasp* Namco should re-release Tales of Symphonia with 16:9, 480p and the Japanese PS2 extras. *gasp*

But seriously, how dumb is it to release a sequel to a game that's out of print, and GC didn't even lead, so... there's tons of people who'd play this one (and re-buy it) making it a good addiction to the Wii catalog.

We need more "RE4: Wii Edition's" I think. (drools at the thought of Metroid Prime 1&2 with 16:9, 480p and wiimote controls)

[marcel]

I think that everyones with me when i say that lacks widescreen or 480p in a game nowadays(2007) almost 100% of the time equals lack of production value and polish, rushed. And to know that widescreen was invented in 1996 or 1997. And almost 11 years later the dutch tv stations are finally going widescreen.

And I totally agree with pedrocasilva, namco should release a wii edition of tales of symphonia at a budget price. And seeing that re4 wii edtion is selling like hotcakes.It sold 1.18 million copies from it release in may till now. And it wouldn’t surprise me if an enhanced version of ToS will sell way better than the gamecube counterpart that is out of print by now. I dont know for sure but resident evil 4 GC is still available in stores.

If there comes a wii version of it. I think I would buy it, and the reason is that I imported my copy from the states. And the freeloader isn’t working very good on wii’s

[pedrocasilva]

I think that everyones with me when i say that lacks widescreen or 480p in a game nowadays(2007) almost 100% of the time equals lack of production value and polish, rushed. And to know that widescreen was invented in 1996 or 1997. And almost 11 years later the dutch tv stations are finally going widescreen.Implemented is the word (not invented), since there's been movies with 16:9 ratio since decades ago.And I totally agree with pedrocasilva, namco should release a wii edition of tales of symphonia at a budget price. And seeing that re4 wii edtion is selling like hotcakes. It wouldn’t surprise me if an enhanced version of ToS will sell way better than the gamecube counterpart.It's just so easy it would be like taking candy from children, there's clearly demand for it, and they're gamecube gems that a lot of people didn't get the chance to play; their price on eBay just proves that.

Being out of print is a crime.

[ShadowV7]

Would be amazing if they done a Wii edition of it. Think of all those lovely cutscenes that will be in it with all those other PS2 extras. And they could even add an OVA in it aswell for good measure.

I would buy one immediatly for the Wii if it got a release. Would be fantastic if they did it.

[marcel]

[QUOTE=pedrocasilva;632269]Implemented is the word (not invented), since there's been movies with 16:9 ratio since decades ago.QUOTE]

I mean tv's and that the dutch tv station adopted the technology sins june this year

[pedrocasilva]

Would be amazing if they done a Wii edition of it. Think of all those lovely cutscenes that will be in it with all those other PS2 extras. And they could even add an OVA in it aswell for good measure.

I would buy one immediatly for the Wii if it got a release. Would be fantastic if they did it.Wanna try and pressure Namco on this one?

I'm certainly available to e-mail the US and European representatives (I think this whole thing had a little impact with Rising Star Games a while ago, for example), but we'd need some kind of "organized retaliation" if we wanted to get heard (like... a petition, other gaming sites/blogs making news of it so they could sign, etc); and, if we get either Namco US or Europe discussing it through mail/interview, making news headlines from it, as a possibility (providing they don't rule it out).

Oh, and Namco/Tales forums would be a good pressuring point to get attention and support too.

[ShadowV7]

I'm definently up for it. Even if it doesn't work i'll be happy that I tried to get a re-released version of the game.

The Namco and Tales forums will be a good place to have it aswell since it won't go unnoticed there. As you said we need to do this properly to have any hopes of it working. We could pass it onto other sites, like GoNintendo and IGN if there are a lot of people up for it. I mean i'm sure there's a good few folk on the forums like ourselves that would be delighted for a re-released version. The Tales forum will be the place that we'll likely pick up the most supporters for this.

[Ten10]

I've had probably for a year now in my little sig section a protest for a Symphonia collectors edition for wii so I'm in on anything.

[Mokong X-C]

Nice idea guys... would be amazing if they gave it away as a bonus disc with ToS2, but if not i would have no problems paying for it (even if it wasn't budget).

I could make a Youtube vid, i usually get good view numbers when i talk bout games, i'm sure i could get a few extra names onto a petition from there. :)

[Tales]

I just remembered something. Eight characters from ToS I will appear in ToS II, but there were nine playable characters in ToS I.....

[ShadowV7]

Ohh just realised that aswell. Wonder if it'll be Kratos then. Seems likely he would be the one since he's away with Derris Karlan and all, but I really wanna see him in some form...

[Mokong X-C]

I just remembered something. Eight characters from ToS I will appear in ToS II, but there were nine playable characters in ToS I.....

damn you're right... would likely be Kratos that's missing i'd say too, since we've seen Zelos is in the game.

But who knows he could make a surprise appearence and they just won't say before the game is out so they can surprise us.... though by the time it gets here we'll all likely know already

[ShadowV7]

When it get's released in Japan i'm gonna avoid everything about the game like ToS so it's so much better. Though it would be cool if there was an ending(please be alt ones again) and there was a scene of Kratos walking up to Lloyds house and you seen like his legs and boots then when he approached the house it zoomed out and you seen his back.

Or if Lloyd is evil he can somehow get back to where he is and fight him or something. Oh the possibilites.

[marcel]

ah IGN has an Hand on with TOS:KoR

December 22, 2007 - Thirty minutes into the start of the Jump Festa event on Saturday over at the Makuhari Messe just outside Tokyo, lines for the new Tales of Symphonia game reached ninety-minutes, and never looked back. Waiting that long to play a game for a few minutes is usually a drag, but we didn't have too many qualms about getting an early first chance at the sequel to one of the GameCube's biggest RPGs.

Bandai Namco had Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatoskr, as the game is titled over in Japan, set up for play in eight kiosks, using a demo that was specially prepared for the Jump Festa event. Following a brief chat amongst main characters Emil and Malta, we were asked to explore a dungeon and arrive at a boss within five minutes. Five minutes may seem short for a demo, but the counter thankfully stopped when entering battle.

While the dungeon crawling component of the game didn't seem all that different from past Tales games, get into battle and you'll find some dramatic changes. This latest update to the Linear Motion Battle system keeps your character attacking on a single 2D line in a full 3D battle field. You lock yourself into a single enemy, pressing the minus button to toggle targets, then simply press A to make your character attack, or B plus a direction on the analogue stick to perform a special attack. You have the option of free movement over the battle field, although this usually isn't necessary.

Outside of a super attack move, activated with the Z button when you've adequately built up a super move gauge, the biggest addition to the battle system appears to be the ability to make monsters join your party. You're occasionally asked if you'd like to woo a beast that you've just defeated onto your side. Beasts who have made the conversion can be added to your battle party and used just like any other character during combat. In our play session, we managed to convert four beasts over to the good side; any more, and you're forced to clear out an older monster from your stable.

This Symphonia follow-up makes only minimal use of waggle, allowing you to shake the Wiimote and nunchuck in various ways to achieve special attacks, something that's probably better left to button presses. Instead of tapping the Wiimote, Bandai Namco has apparently decided to tap the Wii's added graphical abilities, as Knight of Ratatoskr looks quite a ways better than its predecessor.

The first Symphonia game was a huge hit amongst RPG-starved GameCube owners, and we expect no less from Knight of Ratatoskr amongst RPG-starved Wii owners. The game hits Japan in Spring, with an international release hopefully not too far out from there.




... hopefully someone did take a video/photo of the demo pod. So we can finally see if this game is in widescreen(I will post it if i found one). If it's not I would be extremely disappointed but I will still buy the game because the hands-on pretty much says that its not so gimmicky like soul calibur legends.

[Dyson]

Colette was awesome :D

[thomaschung]

Ohhh, I need to see more of this game. Symphonia was one of my all time faves.

And dammit Nintendo & Namco- get Lloyd Irving in Smash Brothers Brawl.

[darksnowman]

The first Symphonia game was a huge hit amongst RPG-starved GameCube owners, and we expect no less from Knight of Ratatoskr amongst RPG-starved Wii owners. The game hits Japan in Spring, with an international release hopefully not too far out from there.


You just know that buy "international release" they mean the USA. I reckon we'll get it in Europe for next winter.

[ShadowV7]

I reckon we'll get it Winter 08. If it's any sooner i'll wet myself.

[pedrocasilva]

From Jump Fiesta 2008:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071222/jf13.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj78/INPAQ-27/SO1_7221.jpg

Also, seems like Namco unveiled a new Tales game but mentioned no platform; Tales of Vesperia, but sadly, I'm betting on X360/PS3, but let's see.

[Mokong X-C]

90 mins waiting in a queue to playtest ToS2 for a few mins, totally would be worth it, wish i was in Japan.

I too don't expect this here till winter 08 at the earliest but that won't bother me so long as I get it. In fact me and Shadow had a small ToS talk in the next ep for the N-Europe Show Podcast...should be on the site before Xmas, just waiting on editing.

[marcel]

*looks at demo pods of TOS2*
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071222/jf13.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj78/INPAQ-27/SO1_7221.jpg

:yay: :yay: widescreen confirmed:yay: :yay:

but i still don't get why some of the developers show 4:3 images of a 16:9 game in the magazines. And hopefully this is going to be released in the west by namco or by nintendo. And not be Japan only like 90% of the tales of game are.

[Ten10]

In fact me and Shadow had a small ToS talk in the next ep for the N-Europe Show Podcast...should be on the site before Xmas, just waiting on editing.

My fav quote from any n-europe podcast is when you say the line: "Just like in tales of symphonia when......."

Although that died out after awhile. But I suppose there is only so much you can tell.

[Goron_3]

Quite impressed that the graphics are supposedly a step up from the GC version. They're not being REALLY lazy it seems...

[pedrocasilva]

Controls from Jump Festa 2008 build:

Wiimote:
Normal attack: A button
Tech: B button
Fighting menu: + button
Target change: - button
Specialty shortcuts: 1, 2 buttons

Nunchuck:
Stick: Move
Free Run: Z button
Unison Attack: C buttonsThe "change target" button should be in the D-pad or Z button; "-" is just not that practical.

[Emasher]

I like the idea of free run. I think the reason 4:3 shots are shown in magazines is so they fit better on the page in some circumstances. Sadly I don't at the moment own a wide screen TV however by then I may have my wii hooked up to one that does letter-boxing if you want to see it in widescreen.

[Jonnas]

Good impressions thus far. The gameplay works well, now let's just hope the story is also good.

[ShadowV7]

This is raising my hopes up for my own good now. Because of this i'm expecting amazing things thus making it easier for me to be dissapointed. Have Sheena/Lloyd (Kratos Bonus) and a long play time and i'll be more than happy.

[Tales]

I just remembered something else. It's obvious, but still

If Zelos in it, he didn't die and never betrayed the team. A bit dissapointing really. It was a surprising twist and his death was very sad. I wouldn't mind if that was really happened, Zelos is awesome, but the twist was so good.

I'm wishing for Lloyd/Sheena and Kratos bonus too. But I just know it won't happen.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3008/sheena2hq1.jpg
Screw Lloyd, put Sheena in SSBB <3

[pedrocasilva]

Some guy who went there:

I went to Jump Festa and they had a Knights of Ratatosk playable demo, along with demos of Innocence and Destiny Remake Leon Version.

Unfortunately i could not play as the line was over an hour and a half waiting time =_= But.. from what I saw people playing, they were holding it nunchuck and wiimote, and in battle they seemed to perform flawlessly, for people playing the game for the first time. So I guess the controls are user friendly.

There was a trailer, dunno if its new, but its of the cutscenes and FMV animation of all the original Symphonia cast, still in original costume. And one thing.. HOLY CRAP I LOVE HOW THEY HAVE FINALLY IMPLEMENTED MOTION CAPTURE. Now the cutscene fights look exciting to watch and not robot-like. On top of that there seems to be a large amount of Sheena clevage as the character models now have more realistic proportions.

GOing back tomorrow, and trying to get some gametime!!!!


Following day:

Ok back from Jump Festa, with a playthrough of Knights of Ratotosk.

Unfortunately I had to play in Semi-Auto mode as I tried to ask whether I could play in Manual, but unfortunately it was lost in translation Sad But.. regardless, the battle system is very reminiscent of Abyss, with the same sort of combo chains. However I couldn't get free run to work (if any..) but the battles themselves were enjoyable with low load times between them.

There were these unison attacks, but I couldn't figure out the conditions to perform them. I just pressed the C button on the nunchuck and it was like the UBEROWNNAGEBUTTON where Emil and.. the girl sorry I havn't remembered the names.. let loose.

Anyway, skills were of standard tales affair, Emil plays like any Tales sword main, using Majinken and Houshuukyaku.. Whereas the girl was like a combination of Farah (speed and dexterity), Collette (chakrams) and Raine (healing), she's the fighter/support character.

The pet monsters make good tanks.

Saw Zelos's, Lloyd's, Emil's and Malta's seiyuu, as well as the Tales Producer, in person. Seemed like the special promo gummy discs live.

Misono sang LIVE the "Ninin Sankyaku" and "Versus". Awesome.

[ShadowV7]

Now Raines playable. Come one confirm everyone as playable T_T And by everyone I mean Lloyd and Sheena, maybe even Genis for magic...

[pedrocasilva]

Now Raines playable. Come one confirm everyone as playable T_T And by everyone I mean Lloyd and Sheena, maybe even Genis for magic...I've seen no confirmation of Raine being playable or in the game, the guy said:

the girl was like a combination of Farah (speed and dexterity), Collette (chakrams) and Raine (healing), she's the fighter/support character.

So the girl character resembles those. (that or I haven't read/understood some info correctly)

[ShadowV7]

Ah damn I read it wrong then :( Thought it was just listing characters there. Damn it all...

[Jonnas]

Don't worry Shadow, Sheena is confirmed, along with her cleavage (or so "Chuc" said).