Tales of Symphonia Official Thread

[Stocka]

I'll remake official threads for the RPGs like before :hehe: Keep em as busy as before guys!

[antster1983]

Who's in your four? I have Lloyd, Collette, Kratos and Sheena. Occasionally I let the others in too. :happy:

[The3rdChildren]

Lloyd, Sheena, Raine and Genis. Lloyd because he's so much fun to control, Sheena because of the off-chance I can summon when she goes into over-limit. Raine because of her brilliant support spells, and of course the midget Genis with his amazing magic attacks. He gets so strong at the end of the game it's almost unreal. If I need to switch a character out, usually Sheena gets swapped.

[Stocka]

I always control Lloyd, and usually had Raine in my party at least because of healing. for the others it depended on who/what I was fighting.

[Zelda_Rulez]

I always have Lloyd, Genis, Raine and Kratos/Zelos in my party. I control Lloyd of course.

[Eddage]

Lloyd as my controlled character
Raine for healing abilities
Genis for his uber magic spells (although I used Collette for the big skeleton demon dude due to her spells being super effective)
Kratos because he can cast some pretty cool spells but is also good close up

[Ray Falling]

Too bad we lost all the info from the CE tread ;_; Its been such a long journey.

Anyway, playing ToS for the 13th time now, I always use:

Lloyd, Sheena, Raine, Genis.

But it doesnt matter really cause Lloyd owns most of the enemies anyway n_n, but I prefer these guys in my party.

Actually, I find other characters difficult to use, like, well magic users are abit boring to play as, cause its simple press one button and wait.
Collette I can't fight with, shes so annoying to use.

Kratos and Zelos are cool, specially since they can do a 6 hit combo and have a wide variety of level 1 and 2 spells.

I like to play as Regal cause he has cool attacks but still hard to control, specially if yer used to Lloyd.
Presea is good, but abit slow.

I did beat all the stadium challenges with all characters though.

I'm trying to get a complete item list now and saving up ExGem Max's for everyone n_n

--Ray

PS: Ask me anything about the game, I'd love to help out

[The-Ironflame]

I've played this about 5 times so it must be good..

[Zelda_Rulez]

I started on my second playthrough after finishing my first. I played for one hour and then stopped. Haven't played since then. Maybe I'll have to continue it someday.

[Eddage]

Haha, thats like me but on my thrid play through, can't remember how far I got, possibly making the pact with Undine, don't think I played much after that though

[El_Fuego_Fuerte]

I did the same thing, played it through once, started again immediately, and got as far as releasing the first seal (in Triet). But then I picked it up again last Saturday, and finished it for the second time this Saturday, and started it for the third time. I love this game. :grin:

[Woz]

*feels left out having only completed the game once*

[darksnowman]

*feels left out having only completed the game once*


:unsure: me too. I got it at Christmas and have completed it once. Its very (very) good but there wasnt a giant amount of things to do apart from save the world!

[Woz]

Yeah, Id like to go through it again, but my lil cousin still has it. Damn her.

[E3wannabe]

Yeh i've only played through it once but when i completed it i traded it in, might pick up another copy though just to play through it again. Like most people already said my ideal 'team' is Lloyd, Raine, Genis and Kratos/Zelos.

[Ray Falling]

:unsure: me too. I got it at Christmas and have completed it once. Its very (very) good but there wasnt a giant amount of things to do apart from save the world!

Actually there was n_n. Did you do the book sidequest? Thats really cool. (but hard 0_0)

Also the colluseum can keep you busy for a whiel and some other stuff I cant come up with now.

To get 100% items in yer list you need to finish the game at least 3 times n_n

Aww I loves it. *goes play Prime 2 instead*

[darksnowman]

Actually theres something that had me stumped, near the beginning someone gives you a letter and I never got it delivered! I thought I was thorough in my going to each town, going from house to house and talking to everyone... but obviously not because I never spoke to anyone (was it an Alfred?) that took the letter from me.

[Ray Falling]

Actually theres something that had me stumped, near the beginning someone gives you a letter and I never got it delivered! I thought I was thorough in my going to each town, going from house to house and talking to everyone... but obviously not because I never spoke to anyone (was it an Alfred?) that took the letter from me.

Here is what you do:

*****(tiny) spolier*****
At a certain time in the game, you get to rebuild the ruined city of Luin. You are supposed to pay Pietro (the guy you saved earlier on) about 20 times. And there are specific amaounts that need to be paid. ( dont know them by heart but I can look into that for you) Paying too much wont be deducted from the next payment and paying too little is no good either.
Next; when the city is rebuild, you must go to the new docks and you will find the guy yer looking for and you deliver the letter. Next follows an event just pay close attention and you'll know what to do. It reults in getting the best headgear in the game and you get Lloyds pirate costume and title "Argh me hearties" And some other stuff n_n

*****end tiny spoiler*****

Hope that helps

--Ray



BTW: there is a "bug" in the game that makes it very easy to get cash fast. In the Earth seal dungeon there is a dragon, beating it will give you 10.000 gald. Now equip the item that gives you double cash, or Sheena's weapon to get even more cash out of it n_n. Though not really a bug, they got rid of it in the PS2 version of ToS n_n.

[darksnowman]

Ah, that makes sense. I never did rebuild Luin. I spose there were things I missed then! Thanks for the info. Ill go back and continue into a second quest some day!

[Ray Falling]

Ah, that makes sense. I never did rebuild Luin. I spose there were things I missed then! Thanks for the info. Ill go back and continue into a second quest some day!

n_n very welcome my friend. And well you did miss a couple of things yes, but its not vital to beating the game. You can get each chracters second best weapon here too. They cost alot but they are worth it. n_n of course you wont use em once ya have the best ones.

Good luck n_n

[diddy]

Actually there was n_n. Did you do the book sidequest? Thats really cool. (but hard 0_0)

F****** RED FLOORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL

Now that thats over, damn this game is fun. So glad i bought it :grin:

Hey just out of interest, who was everyones favourite boss battle. Mine would be Abyssion from the cursed wepons quest, he was hard.

I use Lloyd, Genis, Sheena and Kratos/Zelos in my party.

[Ray Falling]

F****** RED FLOORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL

Now that thats over, damn this game is fun. So glad i bought it :grin:

Hey just out of interest, who was everyones favourite boss battle. Mine would be Abyssion from the cursed wepons quest, he was hard.

I use Lloyd, Genis, Sheena and Kratos/Zelos in my party.

Awww yeah those were silly n_n but I was around level 100 when I did them the second time so no problems...and you may want to have yer you know what weapons when you go in n_n.

My fav boss would be uhm... The team from the other Tales of... game you fight in the colliseum n_n

[Zelda_Rulez]

My favourite boss would be the same as diddy

I really liked his fight because it was a challenge and it had one of my favourite songs of the game in it.

[Konfucius]

I don't now if it's the right section and if it's news but Gamefront.de (http://www.gamefront.de/) reports that Namco patented the title "Tales of the Voice" in Japan but there hasn't been an official announcement for the game yet.

[diddy]

My favourite boss would be the same as diddy

I really liked his fight because it was a challenge and it had one of my favourite songs of the game in it.

LOL, i think its the same music when you fight Sheena

[Zelda_Rulez]

Yeah it's called fatalize. I had it as an mp3 but I deleted it a while ago.

[Ray Falling]

You can find all the ToS music on the net n_n I also recorded them all myself, but then the ones on the net are better quality.
There is this site called OCremix, where I always get my game remixes, they're working on this project of remixing alot of music from ToS and ToP. n_n should be worth checking out 0_0 *nervous*

[Cheapshot]

Hey Ray.

*spoiler*

I found out how to kill Zelos off; he's pretty darn tough huh? For people who's reading this is another reason to play though again -- you get Kratos at the end instead.

*end spoiler*

I was shocked with how much stuff there is to do in the game, i've racked up 200 hours already! 0_o

My character choice is:
Lloyd
Genis
Raine
My fourth wheel changes around for me from time to time.

[Ray Falling]

Hey Ray.

*spoiler*

I found out how to kill Zelos off; he's pretty darn tough huh? For people who's reading this is another reason to play though again -- you get Kratos at the end instead.

*end spoiler*

I was shocked with how much stuff there is to do in the game, i've racked up 200 hours already! 0_o

My character choice is:
Lloyd
Genis
Raine
My fourth wheel changes around for me from time to time.


Yeah I did that too n_n It was cool, and needed to get 100% items. I didnt think he was that tough though. n_n I was around level 100 by that time. Still so cool, he looked awesome n_n

[Zelda_Rulez]

I fought him on my first playthrough. I didn't think he was that tough. It was cool to have Kratos at the end though.

[Cheapshot]

Well I was only lvl 65; but I didn't have to use too many revives, I lost twice though 0_o

[Zelda_Rulez]

I found most boss battles to be really easy. I wasn't overleveled though.

The only ones that gave me some trouble are:

Kvar, because of those robots. They kept comboing me. I only lost once though and the second time I won easily.

Abbysion, lost only once or twice. You just have to be alert on your hp all the time.

What is everyone else's hardest boss?

[Cheapshot]

I found most boss battles to be really easy. I wasn't overleveled though.

The only ones that gave me some trouble are:

Kvar, because of those robots. They kept comboing me. I only lost once though and the second time I won easily.

Abbysion, lost only once or twice. You just have to be alert on your hp all the time.

What is everyone else's hardest boss?

What you said. :p

[Ray Falling]

Hardest boss huh? Well I seemd to have some trouble with Volt, when I was playing my friend's savegame... At that pointyer very weak (unless you trained loads) And the bastard killed all my teammates, and I would have died too had I not used that ultra rare item that freezes the enemies (it was however only for about a second) n_n had I not done that I would have lost.

But usually on my own savegames I dont have any problems with bosses.
But I'd have to say:
******spoiler****
**************
Remiel or Kratos (you can beat him at the point where yer supposed to lose but its quite hard, I did make it though...same goes for Yggdrassil at the tower of salvation)
***************
****end spoiler****


--Ray

[diddy]

******spoiler****
**************
Remiel or Kratos (you can beat him at the point where yer supposed to lose but its quite hard, I did make it though...same goes for Yggdrassil at the tower of salvation)
***************
****end spoiler****


--Ray

Yea, whenever i hit Yggdrassil all i did was 1 damage (!!!!)
But your not supposed to defeat him there though

Cause if you did then that would cut the game in half :shock:

[Zelda_Rulez]

You could use a Pro Action Replay code to beat him but I think it would still cut to the same movie afterwards.

[The3rdChildren]

Yeah, I have to say "that" particular plot diversion -really- made the game a lot more emotionally impacting. His death really did open the door for a certain traitor to return... and of course there rammifications of a party member dying.

Brilliant game, my favourite on the GameCube this generation.

[Ray Falling]

When I said beat him I meant, not dying there... n_n

[Alterego]

This is the graitest game to hit the game cube i recon! and will be a good favourite for manny years! Long live Symphonia!

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[Enigma]

1st: Characters I use:

Controlled: Lloyd

Partner 1: Raine

Partner 2: Zelos or Kratos

Partner 3: Regal

2nd: The hardest boss:

The boss that gave me a hard time was:

The exhibition fight with the other Tales characters

[darkcloud]

Shit, still being on my first play through (ermmm I've just given presea her key crest ^^;) I'm worried about reading this thread properly. lol Really wish there was some way to tell how far through these spoilers are in the game. lol

My party gets changed quite a bit, but, it's normally Lloyd, Genis, Zelos/Kratos and.... Presea..... I just think she's a cool character and like Genis loves her so yea..... ^^;

Really enjoying showing off Zelos' annoying self by taking items from all the girls. XD

Also instead of doing a quick jump after giving Presea her key crest I went to Altessa's house amd spoke to that random girl twice..... She gave me a curry recipe once and a loud of items including a ex-sphere shard.......... Would I have got these no matter when I spoke to her or is the quick jump put in to make people miss them?

[Enigma]

Also instead of doing a quick jump after giving Presea her key crest I went to Altessa's house amd spoke to that random girl twice..... She gave me a curry recipe once and a loud of items including a ex-sphere shard.......... Would I have got these no matter when I spoke to her or is the quick jump put in to make people miss them?

No. It goes with the storyline.

[system_error]

The easiest way to win any boss battle is too play with more human players. The AI is okay but some bosses especially if you are under leveled are quite hard on your own. My girlfriend mostly plays with Raine and I play with either Kratos or Loyd.

Only problem I had is with a side quest boss ... too though with level 45 (at least it was for me) but the reward is nice!

[darkcloud]

Bleh, that's a shame, I like it in RPG's when there is stuff like that you can miss....... *sigh*

[Ten10]

Well after trying to screw up the story by doing things differently and going places earlier than I should. I found out that the story eventually goes back to normal which sucks.

[Zelda_Rulez]

Yeah nothing in the story changes but you can go on a whole different route at the beginning but all it does is make that part harder. When you do the things that you should've done first later it'll be even easier.

[Enigma]

Bleh, that's a shame, I like it in RPG's when there is stuff like that you can miss....... *sigh*

I HATE that. Well I can accept it a little but generally I hate that.

[Goron_3]

Well after trying to screw up the story by doing things differently and going places earlier than I should. I found out that the story eventually goes back to normal which sucks.

The first time I went through the game, I did the Tower of Mana as the second dungeon and it had to start again cos i was at such a low level (13 i think) :shock: Then I did it again properly and all was good again! Woo!

[Marshmellow]

The first time I went through the game, I did the Tower of Mana as the second dungeon and it had to start again cos i was at such a low level (13 i think) :shock: Then I did it again properly and all was good again! Woo!

lol i know what you mean the first time i went through Palmacosta was like the last place i went on Sylvarant and I did like the dungeons backwards so it was real hard but the 2nd and 3rd and 4th... etc were a lot easier

[Ten10]

I got most of the sylvarant summon spirits before leaving so I didn't have to come back for awhile. I couldn't get aska and luna before getting shadow though which was annoying. At least I got to keep the spiritua statue

[Sexual Chocolate]

Is there anyway at all to go back before you fight Ydggradiirirlrdflfkdlas and his bint the fair lady of west coast, as i keep getting pounded and want to level up more.

Yes I dont know there names.

[Johelian]

What is everyone else's hardest boss?

Perhaps embarrassing, but the first seal that you unlock with the firey dog demons caused me the most grief. I must have died there like seven or eight times before I scraped through with a victory.

To ease my shame though, I didnt struggle on any other of the bosses. I think I died maybe twice more in the rest of the game.
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[RATM_4_EVA]

hey how do you get ex gem max? i beat Methos (spelling?) so many times its not funny. It always drops and i pick it up, but where the hell is it?

[RATM_4_EVA]

I found most boss battles to be really easy. I wasn't overleveled though.

The only ones that gave me some trouble are:

Kvar, because of those robots. They kept comboing me. I only lost once though and the second time I won easily.

Abbysion, lost only once or twice. You just have to be alert on your hp all the time.

What is everyone else's hardest boss?
abbysion, never died but used alot of life bottels. but hes freaking long.

now i purchased the 10X Exp in the grade shop, i gonna kick ass :)

[Zelda_Rulez]

Perhaps embarrassing, but the first seal that you unlock with the firey dog demons caused me the most grief. I must have died there like seven or eight times before I scraped through with a victory.

To ease my shame though, I didnt struggle on any other of the bosses. I think I died maybe twice more in the rest of the game.

Oh yeah I found that one really hard too because I still had to get used to the battle system a bit. I didn't die but I used up all my healing items there. Luckily the next bosses weren't as hard.

hey how do you get ex gem max? i beat Methos (spelling?) so many times its not funny. It always drops and i pick it up, but where the hell is it?

You have to carry over exgems with the New Game + mode. This way you'll still have it when you start a new game.

[BlackMesa]

I found Kilia to be the hardest boss strangely enough =p. My parties were:
Group One: Lloyd, Presea, Raine, Genis
Group Two: Sheena (<3), Raine, Regal, Kratos/Zelos

Who did you choose to have? Zelos or Kratos?

[Marshmellow]

My hardest boss was probably Yggdrasial the very first time you fight him like every hit no matter what is 1 its fricken hard...

[Enigma]

My hardest boss was probably Yggdrasial the very first time you fight him like every hit no matter what is 1 its fricken hard...

Well you are supposed to lose there anyway

[Shoopuf]

I've just started playing this game so I'm not too far into it.

I'm really not liking the battle system, I hope I get used to it.

[Sexual Chocolate]

You start liking it more when you pull of wonderful tricks and mega combos, if only I leveled up more.

[djamb3]

I just finished the game for the 1st time now, but it only left around 40 hours...Have I left too much to do? In the box it says 80 hours...

[Ray Falling]

Well I guess... my first time I really wanted to explore everything and stuff so i got around 76. It really depends on the player and ehehehe how many times you fall asleep behind it leaving it on for hours 0_0

Theres a special quest in an evil book that will take plenty of more hours

[Cheapshot]

I've clocked up 150 hours so far doing all the sidequests and playing through it twice and I feel like playing through it again. :p

[thomaschung]

i completed this excellent game. everyone not tried it should buy it.

[Zelda_Rulez]

I had about 60 hours on my first playthrough. I did a lot of the sidequests as well but not all of them. I could have made it to 70 I think.

[Kuroro87]

hi ppl, i want ask something about tos, when i end the disk 1, it asks me to save? or it ask me only change cd
sorry for the english i'm italian...

[UK-Gamer]

i sold my tos copy but stil have my save, does any one now where i can get it for cheep ???

[Ten10]

Almost a year later. Is there anyone else who is still playing this. Its started to wear down on me but I haven't played an RPG that good in ages. I'm onto Xenosaga 2 now but its not nearly as fun...

[casper_uk]

well i picked this up yesterday, ok i like the story line so far but i really dont like the way you fight because everyone keeps dying :( lol I just made it to a ruined city type place where i have opened up this tomb thing leading to stairs. I went down the stairs, opened a chest only to find a bad guy inside that proceded to kick my ass and kill everyone lol.

Think i might have to level up a bit more before i enter again. Only problem is i just can't find the time to spend hours leveling up any more :(

[diddy]

well i picked this up yesterday, ok i like the story line so far but i really dont like the way you fight because everyone keeps dying :( lol I just made it to a ruined city type place where i have opened up this tomb thing leading to stairs. I went down the stairs, opened a chest only to find a bad guy inside that proceded to kick my ass and kill everyone lol.

Think i might have to level up a bit more before i enter again. Only problem is i just can't find the time to spend hours leveling up any more :(

Yea, stay away from that chest thing for now :laughing:
Don't worry you can come back later on to beat that enemy

[casper_uk]

yeah this game rocks but its starting to get on my tits! lol I have got quite far in the game just made the ice pact but i want to find the devil weapons. Do you think i can??

I have the first one which you get from the mine by smashing that block with the stone then checking the broken bits. Now according to all the online guides, in the ice town once you have the first devil weapon theres an old person sitting down outsite the house on the first screen.

SO WHERE THE HECK IS HE??? cause he isn't there lol

Any help as to what to do next??

[Incomplete]

Sheesh been a loooong time since I played this game, sorry casper wish I could help but off memory I can't remember and my cousin is borrowing my memory card so I can't really check for you...

I loved this game and I'm feeling nostalgic, I should really get my card back so I can play. It's funny I played through it 3 times but what really suprised me is that my sister played it more than me! It was like the first game she played in YEARS since like Super Mario Bros. 3 or something like that. Yeah... we both stopped playing after I started another play through and accidentally saved over her file >__<

I did the same thing with Baten Kaitos when she hit the second cd... I think I'm starting to remember why she stopped playing games all those years ago .__.
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[darksnowman]

Its good to see this thread revived. I completed this beast of a game back in May... and I musta done no sidequests cos I cant mind there even being any! All I ever got was the letter near the start to give to some guy (Alfred?) and I never bumped into him so well... I still have the letter! Im tempted to give this a replay but Ive lotsa other games and stuff to do for now that itll have to wait. Its a definite candidate for a replay in the future.

[Stocka]

ToS seems to be getting lots of points for Revolution - Europe's Top 50 (http://www.revo-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2664&page=1&pp=25). I think theres a good chance it might JUST get into the top ten!

[Raven]

yeah. id rate it in top 10. easily.

my hardest boss would be the super bosses. ie. the one with the doom items and also that skeleton fellow that pops up rarely. great game. i wanna play again soon.

[Nintendo Fan]

that's one of the best rpg game that i played on gamecube. it's great. hopefully there will be tales of symphonia 2 on revolution.

[pedrocasilva]

that's one of the best rpg game that i played on gamecube. it's great. hopefully there will be tales of symphonia 2 on revolution.PS2 is getting Tales of Legendia exclusive, after tales of Symphonia selling better in gamecube on Japan (were it also came in PS2) and selling pretty good worldwide (It's "players choice" in US...).

from a narrowminded view I kinda hope it sells badly, because they shouldn't ignore a install base like us, who even supported them, tales of destiny and tales of eternia came out on US on PSone and sold crap.

It's not like I mind a PS2 version, but I don't like them ignoring the cube after releasing a best-seller for it, above all symphonia pretty much put "Tales" series on the map in US and europe, the sequel being exclusive to other system is like turning their back on us, I for one can't really buy a PSTwo for it.

Although I heard Tales of legendia is not as good... It'll also sell based on the name of it's predecessor, a exclusive gamecube game (outside of japan). I bought a PSone almost for Tales of Phantasia (NTSC JP), Tales of Destiny and Tales of Destiny II/Eternia (NTSC), the later two not up to the standard of the original Tales of Phantasia, but still I didn't complain, I will do so this time, after tales of symphonia outing, letting it out of GC is just... stupid...

I remember Legendia being also stated as a gamecube game, I wonder why it isn't (they should still port it, dammit).

[The3rdChildren]

Just a heads up for any fans of Starry Heavens, the Japanese opening theme to Tales of Symphonia by Day After Tomorrow. I was browsing some forums last night and came across a sort of instrumental version of the theme. It's pretty good if you like the original piece:

It can be obtained here (http://www.tales-central.com/Starry%20Heavens%20Remix%20No%20Lyrics.zip)

[pedrocasilva]

Just a heads up for any fans of Starry Heavens, the Japanese opening theme to Tales of Symphonia by Day After Tomorrow. I was browsing some forums last night and came across a sort of instrumental version of the theme. It's pretty good if you like the original piece:

It can be obtained here (http://www.tales-central.com/Starry%20Heavens%20Remix%20No%20Lyrics.zip)yay... this should be the one to be on europe and US versions of the game, if they thought europeans would dislike j-pop... In my opinion, so much better than the "final" music, because the trailer was made for "day after tomorrow" not the new orchestrated music made for it (not saying it's bad though).

It sounds too... midi... though, the original rock version would be better, only without lyrics...

[Hero-of-Time]

Thanks for the link I really enjoyed that tune.

[Stocka]

Sweet tune. I have the original version of Starry Heavens on mp3, its the japanese version of the intro music right? I've been looking hard for the ToS intro music(not japan) but can't find it, so if anyone knows please let me know :smile:

[Nintendo Fan]

NICE.
i really like it. Good Tune :smile:

[CooInTheZoo]

I might go and play Tales later, i REALLY need to finish it! Totally stuck though.

[Stefkov]

im not the guy to make a thread for myself unless its of real inmportance, so ill post it here as it does have some relevnace to TOS.
my question is, which of these three games should i get: TOS, mario strikers or battalion wars. i only have enough for one:( hopefully i can get one of them cheaper than £30, i really want a good rpg to play through before the rev and zelda get here. however i want something wih a load of action in it, like mario football and battalion wars. so could someone please tell me which one i should get which would please me the longest? and is the most fun

[Stocka]

im not the guy to make a thread for myself unless its of real inmportance, so ill post it here as it does have some relevnace to TOS.
my question is, which of these three games should i get: TOS, mario strikers or battalion wars. i only have enough for one:( hopefully i can get one of them cheaper than £30, i really want a good rpg to play through before the rev and zelda get here. however i want something wih a load of action in it, like mario football and battalion wars. so could someone please tell me which one i should get which would please me the longest? and is the most fun
Just don't hesistate and go and buy Tales of Symphonia. You won't regret it.

[Hero-of-Time]

im not the guy to make a thread for myself unless its of real inmportance, so ill post it here as it does have some relevnace to TOS.
my question is, which of these three games should i get: TOS, mario strikers or battalion wars. i only have enough for one:( hopefully i can get one of them cheaper than £30, i really want a good rpg to play through before the rev and zelda get here. however i want something wih a load of action in it, like mario football and battalion wars. so could someone please tell me which one i should get which would please me the longest? and is the most fun

If you want a long game then go with Tales but if you want a fun game get Battalion Wars. Im not saying Tales isnt fun im just saying that I got more enjoyment out of Battalion.

The problem for me with Tales is although I enjoyed it the battle system was annyoying. All you really have to do is hammer away on the A button. There were many a time when I was reading a mag while playing and I wasnt even looking at the screen as I was just pressing A and I still won. It does have a great storyline though. Personally I would recommend Baten Kaitos over Tales if you havent got it yet.

[Stefkov]

cheers for the replies, no ones said about mario football yet, im guessing it isnt great or last longing. Is battalion or Tales mulitplayer? cos id like a multiplayer game, so i can have more fun. mario football is multi i think and it looks fun.

[Hero-of-Time]

cheers for the replies, no ones said about mario football yet, im guessing it isnt great or last longing. Is battalion or Tales mulitplayer? cos id like a multiplayer game, so i can have more fun. mario football is multi i think and it looks fun.

For some reason they didnt make Battalion Wars multi-player, the fools. I havent played mazza footy but I will pick it up as it looks great and sounds great plus the mulit-player is supposed to be very hectic and fun. If you want to read about it look at the Mario Footy thread somewhere on the cube board as many are playing it and loving it.

[Raven]

mario football is an awesome game.

there. its been said...

nah seriously. i would rate ToS over MSF for sure. but dont stop looking for it in the bargain bin.. or somethin

[Retro_Link]

This thread is full of opinions on Mario Smash Football;

http://www.revo-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3650

[Ten10]

I think legendia's look and feel isn't as appealing as Symphonia everything just looks hard and sharp while symphonia had that warm soft glow to everything aka the "muddy" look. As for our version of the symphonia intro, I have an mp3 for it but it refuses to play in anything other than winamp.

[Pestneb]

stefkov, I only have Tos, but (personally) value I'd be willing to buy for
Tos £29.99
MSF £19.99
BW £14.99

[pedrocasilva]

I think legendia's look and feel isn't as appealing as Symphonia everything just looks hard and sharp while symphonia had that warm soft glow to everything aka the "muddy" look. As for our version of the symphonia intro, I have an mp3 for it but it refuses to play in anything other than winamp.They say legendia has a good story although the artwork didn't really grow on me... They also say the game in the whole is worse, the thing is... We all know that if the game was coming out on GC like it should we'd buy it.

I'm currently finally playing Tales of Symphonia, and it is the best "Tales of" game since phantasia, but it's not better than phantasia, not even on-par with it... Symphonia some times appears to be a ToPhantasia in 3D and it's beautiful, no other game in the series does it.

Here's a new interview about Tales of Phantasia... it talks quite a little about Symphonia and all:
When it comes to epic role playing games, the "Tales" series is building quite a reputation; Tales of Symphonia has already proven a sizeable hit on GameCube, and now Tales of Phantasia is set to do the same on Game Boy Advance.

What is it that sets Phantasia apart from the other fantasy titles out there? We spoke to Makoto Yoshidumi, the Producer behind the game - and he had plenty to say.

Nintendo of Europe: Can you briefly introduce the story in Tales of Phantasia?

Makoto Yoshidumi: "The story centres on two young boys - Chester and Cress. Cress has been schooled in the art of swordsmanship by his father Miguel, a master swordsman. One day the two young lads set off for the woods and while they are away something attacks their village, killing their families. The two boys run around trying to confront and defeat this enemy but it soon becomes apparent that the incident in the village is part of a larger plot. Soon our two heroes are joined by Mint, a healer, Arche, a sorceror and Class, a bounty hunter and their adventure unravels across time and space. Where will it take them in the end?"

NoE: When Tales of Phantasia first appeared, it was never released outside of Japan. Can you tell us why you feel the time is right now to bring the game to Europe?

Yoshidumi: "Our initial opinion was that 'RPGs with a strong animation element' would not be well received overseas. Recently however, with the release of certain games and in particular Symphonia for the GameCube our approach to this matter has undergone a significant change."

NoE: Are there any differences between the original game and this version for GBA?

Yoshidumi: "New sub-scenarios and mini games, in addition to new characters that have been added to these new sections, will appear for the first time in the Game Boy Advance version."

NoE: Can you tell us about some of the hardships that await the hero Cress?

Yoshidumi: "Standing in Cress' way is Daos - not merely the 'embodiment of evil' looking to wipe out all life on this planet - instead Daos is looking to rescue this planet and the rest of the universe in his own way. There is a big difference between the concepts of 'peace' as thought of by Cress and by Daos. This gives Cress a lot of food for thought as his adventure unfolds."

NoE: The combat system is unique for a handheld RPG. Can you explain what makes it so compelling?

Yoshidumi: "Up to this point in time, most RPGs had a 'command input' approach to combat elements in their games. The "Tales of..." series of games uses a combat system that is close to that of an action game. The reason for this is to allow the gamer to sense the stress and nervousness of combat against the various enemies and monsters that one encounters during the adventure. Combat like this - 'let's team up and fight' - prompts the gamer to feel a stronger bond with the other characters."

NoE: There is even a cooking system in the game, which enables players to cook their own food and even create potions from the ingredients they find on their adventure, correct? Is this a major part of the game and what are the benefits for the player?

Yoshidumi: "I would not say it was a major part of the game, but I do believe that gamers will enjoy this aspect. During the development of the game someone said "Won't these guys get hungry on such a long adventure? If they take it in turns to prepare and cook food for the others, that will make them closer as a group.' The concept stems from a sincere attempt to enrich the gameplay."

NoE: What would you say it is that makes Tales of Phantasia stand out from typical RPGs?

Yoshidumi: "In terms of the game systems, I think it's the unique combat system and cooking sub-system that make us stand out from the crowd. That and the audio (despite the fact that the game is stored on a ROM cartridge!) together with the affinity that our audience now has with our animation style, the landscapes and the character depiction. The other important factor is the story and our emphasis on a good yarn. Any game that carries 'Tales' in the title cannot be a mere linear story-based RPG."

NoE: Many GameCube owners loved Tales of Symphonia. In what way is Tales of Phantasia linked to that title?

Yoshidumi: "The two games - Symphonia and Phantasia - are set in the same world. Phantasia decribes a world a few thousand years older than that of Symphonia. In this respect, several proper nouns and names are the same in both games. If you choose to play Symphonia through to the end of the game and then you begin your adventure with Phantasia, you'll see that many puzzles and riddles are answered."

NoE: Can we expect to see further "Tales of..." games coming to Europe in the future?
Yoshidumi: Please look forward to some more "Tales of..." games appearing in the future. We are all working hard on the next game in the series.

NoE: Thanks for your time.

Tales of Phantasia is released on Game Boy Advance on 31 March.Source: http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/editorial/article.do?elementId=4L4kW3R6D3wg1x7sRqr0ftnCRgp4U UOI

All this said... I seems to me like we're getting ToP as a change tip from namco, I mean... ToP is my favorite game ever and all... but porting it to the GBA is very cheap (specially when that port was already made in 2003 in Japan), cheap compared to porting Legendia for us... they say that Symphonia is the game that put Tales on the map outside japan, and this is true...
The first two outings on Psone sold pretty badly in US... Symphonia is "players choice" on GC and the first "Tales of" to be released in Europe... it's like they are ignoring us releasing Legendia exclusive on PS2, it feels pretty bad, we did all we could to secure a follow up with the sales we gave the to ToS.

[Cheapshot]

Well the GameCube is dead, so why would they release Legendia on it?

[pedrocasilva]

Well the GameCube is dead, so why would they release Legendia on it?I'm not saying they should make it exclusive just that we should get it aswell, they go to a interview saying what symphonia did for the good of the series outside of Japan (and it's true), but somehow we don't get a sequel, PS2 had Tales of Symphonia ported over, either way... they wouldn't loss profits on doing so.

And GC is not really dead... that's the same as saying "why releasing Baten Kaitos II there" for example, the cube is RPG starved. the truth is Symphonia sold good... they ought to keep a audience satisfied, as it'll pay off in the future.

If they really wanted to release it and sell shift lots of units they could easily do it... like releasing Legendia in US and european shores right before Revolution launches... Even if it was already released on PS2 for months, lots of people would pick it up when buying a revo, revolution will not have lots of RPG's at launch, a GC game released at that time to cover this could shift some considerable units... It's not like Namco wants to release the game and can't it's more like: "they don't want to".

[Ten10]

I'd be happy with even a TOS directors cut or special edition. For some reason I just crave the action rpg genre. I've always hated FF games due to the amount of waiting that you had to do only to die at the last hurdle. One thing I've never liked about some of them (they worked round this in Kaitos so I was ok with it) is the fact you can't defend yourself. Sometimes you manage to block an attack but you never know how or why you were able to do it. Enough rambling, I'll just work on a 100% complete save file.

[pedrocasilva]

I'd be happy with even a TOS directors cut or special edition. For some reason I just crave the action rpg genre. I've always hated FF games due to the amount of waiting that you had to do only to die at the last hurdle. One thing I've never liked about some of them (they worked round this in Kaitos so I was ok with it) is the fact you can't defend yourself. Sometimes you manage to block an attack but you never know how or why you were able to do it. Enough rambling, I'll just work on a 100% complete save file.Tales of Phantasia is coming to GBA in Europe, in March 31st I'd advise you to get it then, it's the game who started it all, and ToS is a prequel to it, there are familiar places and all... you can't go wrong, what I'm afraid of, is the localization, things cut and all, and I really don't like to see Psone"ish" sprites on the original SNES backdrops and engine (who seems to have taken quite a cut in backdrop detail and color in battles), the opening music and artwork scene at the end were simply cut, and that's a real shame... still that's just some features... if you are craving for a fix in the genre get it, the original overall package was even better than symphonia.

[Cheapshot]

Tales of Phantasia is coming to GBA in Europe, in March 31st I'd advise you to get it then, it's the game who started it all, and ToS is a prequel to it, there are familiar places and all... you can't go wrong, what I'm afraid of, is the localization, things cut and all, and I really don't like to see Psone"ish" sprites on the original SNES backdrops and engine (who seems to have taken quite a cut in backdrop detail and color in battles), the opening music and artwork scene at the end were simply cut, and that's a real shame... still that's just some features... if you are craving for a fix in the genre get it, the original overall package was even better than symphonia.

If that's all true I don't think I'd rather play it over my perfectly translated SNES rom... I'd probably get it anyway because it's portable and we need to show Namco-Bandai that the "Tales of..." series is gathering momentum in Europe.

...they're going to cut the "mature" scenes aren't they? :cry:

[Ten10]

I didn't get very far playing the rom of phantasia. Yes I'm sorry I know this is sensitive context on the forums. Anyway the difficulty I faced kinda puts me off getting Phantasia, basically I was left not knowing what to do. I'll probably buy it anyway.

[pedrocasilva]

If that's all true I don't think I'd rather play it over my perfectly translated SNES rom... I'd probably get it anyway because it's portable and we need to show Namco-Bandai that the "Tales of..." series is gathering momentum in Europe.

...they're going to cut the "mature" scenes aren't they? :cry:I don't know, but at least tone them down, I can't imagine the game without some of them... and ToS was toned down (specially Zelos), but it still came across though, I think it was well done for ToS at least, the irony is there. As for ToP jokes... seems a little over the line compared to what we've seen in ToS.

And yes lets show them Tales series sells in Nintendo consoles, while a 11 year old port sells better than legendia in europe, they'll wish they ported Tales of legendia over :maniac laugher:

Also I've been playing the European version of Tales and sometimes... mainly in skits and zelos pickup lines... it appears to have some charater errors like □™ mainly at the end of the phrases... is this normal? :( I'm playing it in english.

EDIT:I didn't get very far playing the rom of phantasia. Yes I'm sorry I know this is sensitive context on the forums. Anyway the difficulty I faced kinda puts me off getting Phantasia, basically I was left not knowing what to do. I'll probably buy it anyway.If you buy it you will have the urge to finish it, the game just gets better and better, If you stayed at the beggining you probably didn't reach Arche, from there... it's all good, I for one... couldn't stop playing :D

let's hope they don't tone down arche to a "collete" type of girl... yes... I hate collete in ToS, I even roll my eyes every time she says she wants to "regenerate the world" : peace:

[Cheapshot]

Also I've been playing the European version of Tales and sometimes... mainly in skits and zelos pickup lines... it appears to have some charater errors like □™ mainly at the end of the phrases... is this normal? :( I'm playing it in english.

Yes that's normal, it's a piss-poor translation but what can you do....

[Ten10]

Still doesn't take anything away from the over all greatness of the game. ToTT is really what I have to look forward to. Some nice unlockables with TOP in the DS would be nice too. I suppose I should try and find fire emblem in a shop some where but this city has gone super anti cube as of this year.

[pedrocasilva]

Still doesn't take anything away from the over all greatness of the game. ToTT is really what I have to look forward to. Some nice unlockables with TOP in the DS would be nice too. I suppose I should try and find fire emblem in a shop some where but this city has gone super anti cube as of this year.I'm looking forward to that one too, but it's still far away, and I've got lots of RPG's to finish.

I'll be getting Tales of Phantasia though, IGN already has a review for it:

-> http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/692/692370p1.html

It doesn't make the game's justice by any means... I mean... FF IV had 8,6 there... So this game deserved a 9.0 to 9.5 and because it is a inferior verion... (although they seem to like the graphical updates from the GBA version).

ahhh... enough rambling this is the Tales of Symphonia thread...

Anyway... being Tales of symphonia the only game to have a real and known relation to ToPhantasia (I think) as a prequel... it's also the only game in the series who really has 3D battles and not just horizontal scrooling... I can stop from seying ToTT as a spiritual sequel to ToS because it really goes down that path in battle system when the "Tales of" in Sony consoles returned to the "Tales of Eternia" kind. It's like seeing two diferent breeds for the same series at the same time... and I must say, after playing ToS I think I like this breed the most. :)

ToTT couldn't come sooner (let's hope it gets released in Europe)

[Cheapshot]

IGN have been giving all RPG's lately 7's - it seems they're not really into them.

[Ten10]

I was playing Tos today for the first time in a while. Anyway after fighting origin Mithos stole Sheena's body instead of Colette's. I suppose its because I've by some miracle managed to up Sheena's affection more than Colette. It was quite interesting however.

[Babooo]

I've had this game for a while, but I lost interest a couple of weeks ago as I could not complete one of the bloody bosses.

However I've continued playing a couple days ago and I'm back to absolutely lovin it. Its bloody awesome. Its the first proper RPG that I have actually got into and everyday after school, there's a guaranteed hour of play for this game....which is quite alot of time to play videogames everyday (for me)....especially when my school recommends I do 3 hours of work a night.... :indeed:

[Ten10]

I don't think we'll be missing anything from tales of the Abyss. Even though its done by Team Symphonia the character models don't look so great. But anyway from the promo movie I saw it retains a lot of the features from Symphonia mainly. As for TOS I've started again this time focusing on Raine. But now that I've done it so many times the first half of the game is really taxing as your soooo limited.

[Cheapshot]

I was playing Tos today for the first time in a while. Anyway after fighting origin Mithos stole Sheena's body instead of Colette's. I suppose its because I've by some miracle managed to up Sheena's affection more than Colette. It was quite interesting however.

Wow I never knew that was possible! What did Sheena/Lloyd say and do etc.

[Ten10]

Well Lloyd beat up Kratos. Kratos gets saved by Yuan. Sheena backs Lloyd up throught this scene. Mithos is in the Cruxis crystal. He tries to take Lloyds body, Sheena does something like tell Lloyd to fight it. And then Mithos just decides to take Sheena's body instead. After that Lloyd only cares about saving Sheena. He is going to go on the exsphere journey with Sheena. Colette and Zelos are tourmented about being failed chosens rather than Sheena and Zelos.

[Stefkov]

ok ive asked a couple of times, but i really want a good rpg to last me a very long time, until zelda comes of course.
so do i choose Tales of Symphonia or Skies of Arcadia?
ive heard that both games are really good and last ages, but which would last me longer and i would get into easier and has an easier and nicer looking battle scheme etc?

[darksnowman]

Obviously for battles its Tales of Symphonia... but the turn based ones in Skies were good, more epic and less frantic.

Both will last ages, Tales has reasonably good replay value for an RPG, though Ive only done it once for the time being.

There both easy to get into as far I remember, but Tales maybe moreso nowadays because its easier to look at, not that Im implying youre a graphics fanatic or anything.

You should really get them both and I cant possibly choose for you because I found them both really charming and fun for different reasons. Skies is hard to get your mitts on so Tales for a quick fix?

Someone else help me here...

[LazyBoy]

I don't think there's any question over which has the best battle system (Symphonia hands down). Skies also had those rediculously annoying random battles.

But I actually preferred Skies as a game. Length and difficulty is definitely greater than Tales, but what got me was the epicness of it. Although Skies probably didn't take me much longer than Tales, it felt like a much bigger game, which is top priority for me when it comes to RPGs.

I'd say Skies peronally, buts that only cause I preffered it.

You know what get both, judge for yourself.

[Stocka]

I don't think there's any question over which has the best battle system (Symphonia hands down). Skies also had those rediculously annoying random battles.

But I actually preferred Skies as a game. Length and difficulty is definitely greater than Tales, but what got me was the epicness of it. Although Skies probably didn't take me much longer than Tales, it felt like a much bigger game, which is top priority for me when it comes to RPGs.

I'd say Skies peronally, buts that only cause I preffered it.

I completely agree. I think SoA is more epic and magical. ToS is fantastic, but I also prefer Skies.

[LazyBoy]

It's wierd because I remember discussing a follow up to Tales a few months back, and we came up with some good ideas. But for me Skies has always been the one that could do with a sequal.

The thing with skies is that despite it being a brilliant game there are so many areas which could be improved upon for a sequal, for instance:
-No random battles (but thats a given)
-Update the graphics (not a big thing for me, got used to it in the original, but you could really kick some visual ass with a follow up)
-Do something with the battle system. Don't take it into real time or anything, cause then you'd lose the incredible special attacks (especially Vyse's were cool, those never got old) but speed it up a little bit. Open to suggestions
-I know dungeons tend to be crap in most RPGs (boring, simple puzzles and a lack of imagination) but someone has got to get it right sometime. Just copy Zelda, I don't care, really
-Bigger (I know it was big, but you know)
-The ability to dock other ships and loot them, like real pirates

It's been a while since i've played it, so i'm a little rusty on the plot, but maybe set it in the future, a later generation of the cresent island pirates maybe (forgotten their name).

I'd like a Rev version. Use the FHC to control ship, like toy plane? I don't know, taking ideas off the top of my head. Point and select for battles, make it quicker.

Oh and plenty of pirate hookers.............plenty

[Stocka]

Skies of Arcadia II is my no.1 "I wish this would happen" game, without a shadow of a doubt. If SoA2 was announced I'd explode, and I'd have to get whatever console it came out on(although I have a 360 and getting a Rev so should be okay...). Same goes for Shenmue III.

But anyway back to Tales of Symphonia...although there are many Tales games i'd personally love a sequel as the characters are so likeable. I had a thought a while ago and I wonder if its possible for IN GAME graphics of a next gen Tales game to look like the FMV in ToS. It would be incredible.

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-001.jpg

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-002.jpg

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-003.jpg

[Babooo]

I need your help people. I'm stuck. Please tell me where the Temple of Earth is after the nest of flying dragons.

I've tried looking at gamefaqs but it doesn't tell me its whereabouts. It says it should be right next to you after the nest of flying dragons but I had to go back to some other places before I could get to the temple of earth. Any sort of direction would be helpful.

[|Laguna|]

Wow, just started palying this again after a couple of months of not playing and i can't stress enough how good and fun the batttle system is. Simply great. Just finished the darkness dungeons and all the skits and dialogue seem to be suggesting like I'm right before the end yet I'm still not on the second disc... it's odd to get so much play time( something like 45 hours) out of only one disc when there are two in total.

[Raven]

I need your help people. I'm stuck. Please tell me where the Temple of Earth is after the nest of flying dragons.

I've tried looking at gamefaqs but it doesn't tell me its whereabouts. It says it should be right next to you after the nest of flying dragons but I had to go back to some other places before I could get to the temple of earth. Any sort of direction would be helpful.
in tethe'alla. go to the north most point of the 'west island'. the earth temple doesnt look very 'temple-like' as the past ones have... its just a crevice looking thing. straight after the dragon fight, you are flying above it... its just not that noticeable, and it helps if you are on the ground to find it.
hope this helps!:wink:

[Babooo]

cheers mate...:grin:

[darksnowman]

Isnt it great how the threads for the Cubes couple of great RPGs keep makin their way to the top of the page? My turn to weigh in with a point this time and listen up Tales fans and fanatics (if there is indeed a difference!), Ive high hopes of this turning into a decent discussion.

I was reading down a thread there in the Handheld area, could well have been the Spring time release dates one. Anyway, someone about here has an avatar with Raine in it. That set off a little thought chain in my head... I think I posted this briefly way back when on the old forums and it didnt get picked up on/ I forgot about it and didnt bother comin back to it when I finished the game... anyway, what am I babbling on about here eh? Bare with me just a little longer, ok?

Its been a few years but I think this was in the deserty town near the start of the game where Lloyd gets penned as a wanted criminal and posters appear. In the hotel or wherever it is theyre staying Raine gets her hands on the Cruxis...? Hmm I cant remember what the plot was doing at this point, but she gets something important! And there's this cutscene with her in her room and shes like yes Ive got it now, mwahahah and her eyes change colour.

Your all still with me yeah? I thought this was her being set up to be a villainous old tart out to take over the world for herself, or she was atleast in cahoots with the big baddies... but nothing ever came of it.

Anyone care to discuss this?

[The3rdChildren]

Raine is just crazy for old stuff. It has no hidden meaning to my knowledge.

[Nintendo Fan]

Just started playing this game again. It's by far my favourite Rpg on Gamecube. 10/10
I love the graphics, the story, all the characters (Rain & Sheena), combat style. i like everything about it.

[Ten10]

Raine was just happy about having an exsphere. She wanted one because pretty much everyone else had one but her. And so that is that. Oh and Divine Judgement is the best attack you can use in the game. Well one of the best attacks. All the other Hi-ougi's take too long to unlock.

[|Laguna|]

I'm fairly sure I'm just nearing the end of the game.
Although the story started out a wee bit exactly like Final Fantasy X it actually elvolves and changes so much through out I'd say the plot in the end surpasses Final Fantasy X, as does the rest of the game as a whole.
The plot is gripping throughout and has more unexpected plot twists you could shake a stick at which keeps the game interesting.

Also, I loved all the sidequests. I 've never really felt the need to do them in other RPGs but with Tales you feel you really want to do them, not the usual feeling of fetch quests which have just been tacked to add to the game's lifespan.
The Tales quests are really rewarding quests.
For example the Luin task (don't want to ruin it for anyone that doesn't know what it is) but the final 3 parts of it just made me feel real happy when You get statues of Lloyd and co put up around the town and the weapon shop eventually selling the uber powerful weapons.
Also the sidequests are wrapped into the game, not a thing you just go around doing before the final battle like many other games.

Take the cooking, it provides a cool alternative to just gobbling down potion sand gave the game a more novel interesting touch, with added extra ingredients adding different effects and the constant joke of Raine's inability to cook with her star rating always next nothing. I was always on the look out for those odd items which yielded the master chef so the sidequest is constantly being played out throughout the game.
Much like Colette's dog quest which although basic in premise is charmingly fun to do and again keeps you on the look out for pooches.

Also the dialogue within the game is great and the skits, although sadly not voiced acted (Japan version was though) or not having the option to scroll through it, they add a nice quirky dimension of humour. Take for example one time when I backtracking through some dungeon, there was a skit in which Lloyd moaned that there wasn't a quickjump, much to the confusion of Raine and other characters. These small snippets of dialogue, another example of Zelos chatting up 6 year olds and making deals to meet them in 15 years time:shock: really added the game enjoyability and also allows player to really get to know and feel for the characters.

As you can see I truely love this game. However it wasn't like I was always a fanboy of the Tales series of whatever, I just picked this game up as I'm a fan of RPGs and I played first 15 hours and thought it was allright, but not naer a classic, and then a couple months later I picked it up again when a had a lot of spare time and I really played and to be honest it picks up so much. Anyone who doesn't complete this game doesn't do it justice. So if you won the game and have stopped playing it I urge and compell you to pick it up again, read the synopsis and get involved.
I promise you, it is an amazing amazing game which in my opinion bests Final Fantasy X, and most certainly X-2.

I'm just thankful that Nintendo decided to get involved in the game as they greatly aided the translation process, which is one of the main reasons that the game came out on these shores. Just look at the PS2 version... never realeased here due to Sony, (or another party) not willing to help translate it.

[darksnowman]

Come on guys, you just all love Raine! She's evil like and it looks like Im the only one to believe so!

[Nintendo Fan]

I love her too, she my favourite character but i don't see her as being evil :wtf:
SHE RULES...'PHOTON'

[ShadowV7]

Sheena is by far my favorite female in the game ;)

[Nintendo Fan]

She's awsome too. If i could pick another best female in the game it would have to Sheena. Raine takes first place for me.;)
I would love to see ToS 2 on Revolution that would be AWSOME.

[ShadowV7]

That would be a dream Exploring the new world and taking out all the remaining exphere's
but then story would get better as you went on because there's a greater evil.
Please Namco you know what to do :D

[Nintendo Fan]

If only that were true, i really hope they do make a sequel coz ToS was GREAT.

[pedrocasilva]

If only that were true, i really hope they do make a sequel coz ToS was GREAT.personally I wouldn't want a sequel... I'd prefer a prequel:
telling the story about Kratos, yggdrasil... etc... while they were young...

It could be great if they did something like...
Martel having a affair with kratos and yggdrasil with his sister complex
would go bollocks with the ideaIf they were to make a sequel... well it's already a prequel to ToP, there are places that are equal I'd like to have a game between the two games, closing the gap, etc. (but not with the same characters)

[Nintendo Fan]

Oh i didn't know the difference between prequel and sequel, and what you wrote in the hidden message would be a Great story. I just hope that Namco realise that ToS fans want another one. :grin:

[ShadowV7]

Yes come on Namco be nice ;)

[pedrocasilva]

Oh i didn't know the difference between prequel and sequel, and what you wrote in the hidden message would be a Great story. I just hope that Namco realise that ToS fans want another one. :grin:If... they release a "Tales of" game in Revolution it will probably have some relation with ToPhantasia, and thus, ToSymphonia(IMO)...

Tales of Phantasia was the only previously released game on a Nintendo console... followed by ToS who is the only one in the series that has a direct conection to another game.

I don't think It makes sense to stray from that formula (well... perhaps on TotT in DS, it does) because there's so much to be told. so yeah, I hope we get a "Tales" exclusive for Revolution.

And... after seeing Red Steel I'd like in-game graphics like this:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/653/653496/fire-emblem-path-of-radiance-20050923024651319.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/653/653496/fire-emblem-path-of-radiance-20050923024702287.jpg

That could be, next gen cell-shading (based on Fire Emblem:PoRadiance FMV's) but Namco could drop the "chibi"/miniature representation in-game, trying to close the gap betwen the game and the FMV's.

[ShadowV7]

Cell shading like that is really good.Good if a few games turned out like that especially a 'Tales of' game

[Nintendo Fan]

Those cell shading graphics we saw on in Fire Emblem: PoR would be AWSOME if they become the gen in play graphics for RPG's. Imagine a 'Tales of' game with those Graphics. A dream come True:grin:

[|Laguna|]

Horray!
Just completed ToS today. What a fantastic game it is, definetley one of my favourite games of this generation. Great lifespan too, I cloced 50 hours and I'm sure I didn't do everything.

Found the final boss a bit easy though... but I guess that's becasue I had all the best weapons (like Zelos' baseball bat) and I was quite highley levelled due to the fact I tended to go for battles instead of avoiding them like other games becasue the battle system is just so darn fun.

[Stocka]

Raine is the sex.
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/25/77/110469949232.jpg
I'd like to of been Genis there :heh:

And yeah I'd love a ToSII, with in game graphics like the cutscenes in tos like I said earlier in this thread.
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-001.jpg
That would be superb! I'd find it more impressive graphically than realistic looking next gen games .

[Nintendo Fan]

The story line of this game was Excellent and very Emotional espaciallythe part with presea and near the end of the game where everyone leaves you because we think that they sacrafise themselves inorder for Lloyd to progress :weep:

[Stocka]

Yeah, but once they all started going you knew they'd be back.

[ShadowV7]

I didn't I almost cried at the bit When they came back I was so happy

[Nintendo Fan]

Very emotional indeed nearly made me cry aswell.

[KKOB]

is this game ever gonna end?!?!?!?!

[Ten10]

Yes it will, and when it does you will feel complete yet empty inside. Complete because you finished the goal of the game, re-unite the two worlds. Empty because it ends. But then there is a lot of other stuff to do. I.e side quests and all so if you start a new game don't save over your completion file.

[pedrocasilva]

Yes it will, and when it does you will feel complete yet empty inside. Complete because [EDITED]. Empty because it ends. But then there is a lot of other stuff to do. I.e side quests and all so if you start a new game don't save over your completion file.ins't that a big, big spoiler? he didn't finish the game yet... :(

[ShadowV7]

That's a Major Spoiler

[Ten10]

Well I don't think it was I mean. Lloyd is preaching it all the way through the game. But I will edit my post for future players.

[ShadowV7]

I didn't think he would of but he sure showed me.I didn't think he would brought 2 worlds together because he had no items and no idea how
and you didn't know about the eternal sword at the time

[Mokong X-C]

Tales of Phantasia was the only previously released game on a Nintendo console... followed by ToS who is the only one in the series that has a direct conection to another game.



What? This is news to me? Are you saying Tales of Phantasia coming to the GBA takes place in the same world as Symphonia?

I love to see both a prequal to TOS and a sequal, the prequal telling the story of Kratos and Mithos (as mentioned before) and the sequal about Lloyd quest to get rid of the exshperes.

FOr me TOS was the Ocarina of Time of the Gamecube, everything about it sucked me in and wouldn't let go, gameplay, characters, stroy, the world that was created, all amzaing.:bouncy:

I remember when i first got it and was going on holiday a few weeks later, the last night before i left i still hadn't finished the game and where i was i thought it was nearly over so i said i'd get it finished... needless to say it was one of those times when it looked like the end but it really wasn't. But it still looked like it was nearly there so i kept saying "Ok i'll finish this and then go to bed", but everytime i completed my "goal" another twist or something would happen and again i'd say "Ok i'll finish this then go to bed"....

In the end i did finish the game before going on holiday... however i didn't get to bed that night, and i actually mean that, i'm not exagertaing i must have played 12 hours straight maybe more that day/night/morning, not even Ocarina of Time had me glued to my control pad like TOS did.

I'm really looking forward to TOP on the GBA and TOTT on DS because of TOS, but i'm still aware that only a true sequal to TOS would satisfy me. I just want to see the characters grow more and explore that world again... prolly mostly due to the characters, they were so great you actually related to them like real people.:weep:

Oh and BTW... SHEENA OWNZ all the ladies in in the game, especially in the formal dress she gets. I normally don't like choosing to be "mean" when i play games, but with Collette i make an exception so Lloyd and Sheena end up together (come on that match makes much more sense). In fact if ever i was to Cosplay i'd be Lloyd and i'd get (force) me girlfriend to be Shena:awesome:

[Ten10]

Well in the last game I played Lloyd and Sheena did end up together. I remember on my last play through I stayed up until 4am playing it. Only because I wanted to get most of the summon spirits before going to Tethe'alla.

[ShadowV7]

My first run I ended with Collette,then Sheena,then Genis and not to sure if I've played a through a forth time,last time I played I was only at fire temple :P Amazing game though.

[pedrocasilva]

Mokong X-C, you've got big spoilers in that post, there must be users out there who didn't play the game to the point of knowing about the stuff previous to Symphonia and about some of the characters because they aren't in your party when you start the game...
What? This is news to me? Are you saying Tales of Phantasia coming to the GBA takes place in the same world as Symphonia?
(...)
I'm really looking forward to TOP on the GBA and TOTT on DS because of TOS, but i'm still aware that only a true sequal to TOS would satisfy me. I just want to see the characters grow more and explore that world again... prolly mostly due to the characters, they were so great you actually related to them like real people.:weep:
Yes :) Symphonia is a prequel to it, you have familiar places and some references, thus Phantasia can be considered a real sequel with diferent characters (but pretty good ones)... I could go into more detail but that would spoil it :)

But I have to say... they Raped ToP GBA a lot... voice acting is horrible, graphics were toned down, animation is slower... music was wattered down... And they cut down "echii"(perverted) scenes!

I'm sorry for not helping Namco on this one, but you're better off with the SNES version, it was perfectly translated a few years back.

[Ten10]

Yeah but that slyph temple was giving me a hard time so I gave up. And the random battles suck. From now on all RPG's should be like tales and Baten Kaitos. NO RANDOM BATTLES.

[pedrocasilva]

Yeah but that slyph temple was giving me a hard time so I gave up. And the random battles suck. From now on all RPG's should be like tales and Baten Kaitos. NO RANDOM BATTLES.Well... I've got nothing bad to say about random battles... sure I wouldn't like ToS or Baten to have them... but I wouldn't like ToP or FF3 to lack them in the same way...

I get the shivers when a toned/watered down version of ToP gets on US stores and IGN says "this is for hardcore old-school gamers, random battles are too often" when I play the game and see "OMG they toned down the random battle frequency by 3 times" or so... I feel like... they are complaining about nothing you know? it was no big problem a few years back and it isn't today, only if people are being picky...

I try to judge the games for what they are, not for what they aren't... I enjoy them better that way.

I played and enjoyed the game as it was and it was perfect that way (it's my favorite game next to Majora Mask) I feel like... messing with the random battles is like screwing a classic game, it's better to leave it as is.

[Mokong X-C]

Mokong X-C, you've got big spoilers in that post, there must be users out there who didn't play the game to the point of knowing about the stuff previous to Symphonia and about some of the characters because they aren't in your party when you start the game...

Yes :) Symphonia is a prequel to it, you have familiar places and some references, thus Phantasia can be considered a real sequel with diferent characters (but pretty good ones)... I could go into more detail but that would spoil it :)

But I have to say... they Raped ToP GBA a lot... voice acting is horrible, graphics were toned down, animation is slower... music was wattered down... And they cut down "echii"(perverted) scenes!

I'm sorry for not helping Namco on this one, but you're better off with the SNES version, it was perfectly translated a few years back.

Woops sorry about that, i never even considered there might still be people yet to play it. I edited out some things, had to do it quickly i'm in college, if there's more PM me and i'll get it when i get home.

Also i didn't know TOP was a remake of a SNES game either, damn i feel like an idiot now, haha. I'll prolly still get TOP on GBA if it takes place in the same world (do they have referandes to TOS characters? Lloyd and co? how long after TOS does it take place?). But from what you said about the GBA version (which is odd since the GBA has more power than the SNES you'd think they'd add to it not take away), i'm gonna hope that Namco jump on the Revo's Virtual Console so i can get the SNES version.

[pedrocasilva]

Also i didn't know TOP was a remake of a SNES game either, damn i feel like an idiot now, haha. I'll prolly still get TOP on GBA if it takes place in the same world (do they have referandes to TOS characters? Lloyd and co? how long after TOS does it take place?). But from what you said about the GBA version (which is odd since the GBA has more power than the SNES you'd think they'd add to it not take away), i'm gonna hope that Namco jump on the Revo's Virtual Console so i can get the SNES version.the thing is... they raped it...

I thought of making a comparative for Revo-Europe, but I never finished it... I just did 3 screenies and I'll leave those here for judgement:

it's all SNES(left) -> GBA(right)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1330/top08ec.png
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7194/top8wc.png
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7112/top27xn.png

See, the graphics were raped to no recognition, the backgrounds were all hand-made now they are horribly generic... the sprites were changed and lack detail (look at the shields), the color palete was mixed up to make the game brighter for GBA...

But the worst is the battle engine it's so slow and "robotical" now, it doesn't feel at all like the ToP I know. I couldn't bare with it.

As for sound... they took the music "The Dream will Never Die" from the opening (the first ever sang music in a videogame), and instead of making a new one (like ToS)... they just threw in the overworld map music :/ the music on SNES was really good, now on ToP GBA it seems like NES music... The voice acting looks pretty retarded too.

Another take:
Like most SNES to GBA ports, this version is watered-down! The lesser quality is most obvious when you view the battle animations and hear the soundtrack. Tales of Phantasia's soundtrack is one of my most favorites. To hear it watered-down is a traumatizing experience!
The battles feel slower. They shouldn't have used the battle sprites from the PSX version because I think they're too big for GBA's screen. They look bloated and they irritate me. The English release removed the J-Pop song and credits from the opening. The bland English voice acting doesn't get my adrenaline pumping at all.
Several aspects of background detail was removed, like birds no longer fly in the background and your reflection no longer shows in water.

------------------------------

As for... how it fits in the story...

NoE: Many GameCube owners loved Tales of Symphonia. In what way is Tales of Phantasia linked to that title?

Yoshidumi: "The two games - Symphonia and Phantasia - are set in the same world. Phantasia decribes a world a few thousand years older than that of Symphonia. In this respect, several proper nouns and names are the same in both games. If you choose to play Symphonia through to the end of the game and then you begin your adventure with Phantasia, you'll see that many puzzles and riddles are answered."

Some fan's say it's 4000 years... I pretty much doubt that.

Rest of the interview can be found here:
-> http://www.revo-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97774&postcount=93

[ShadowV7]

Sheena's surname is a character's surname in the game is it not? Thought I read it on a Tales site im just about to start the game for myself just because it's almost like a sequal.

[pedrocasilva]

Sheena's surname is a character's surname in the game is it not? Thought I read it on a Tales site im just about to start the game for myself just because it's almost like a sequal.on ToP? Sheena's surname is Fujibayashi... so there's this solid chance, because...

There's this Suzu Fujibayashi from secret Ninja Village.

heh, :wink:

[Mokong X-C]

Damn, just looking at those screen comparisions... i actually don't think the sprites are "that" bad, with the exception of the detail on the sheilds and weapons i think the GBA sprites look better..However seeing as it is a GBA game those sprites are a bit big for the screen, the SNES sprites would have been loads better. And the backgrounds are MUCH better on the SNES ones, thats shocking, i thought they said the GBA was more powerful than the SNES?

And its a shame you say the voice acting is poor cuz in TOS it was top class IMO. One of the reasons the characters were so indearing(sp?)... hell i didn't even think they'd get much voice acting onto a GBA kart :p

Back on TOS, i'll spoiler this just incase i say something without knowing...


something i've always wondered...where do they get the names from? Like Symphonia? Does it mean something?
Cuz unless i missed something really important i never came across that word in the game at all?
I did think it was gonna be the name of the worlds combined but even that didn't come up.

[ShadowV7]

Voice acting is terrible on TOP ,I played it for a few min and went 'time for break'

[pedrocasilva]

Damn, just looking at those screen comparisions... i actually don't think the sprites are "that" bad, with the exception of the detail on the sheilds and weapons i think the GBA sprites look better..However seeing as it is a GBA game those sprites are a bit big for the screen, the SNES sprites would have been loads better. And the backgrounds are MUCH better on the SNES ones, thats shocking, i thought they said the GBA was more powerful than the SNES?

And its a shame you say the voice acting is poor cuz in TOS it was top class IMO. One of the reasons the characters were so indearing(sp?)... hell i didn't even think they'd get much voice acting onto a GBA kart :p

Back on TOS, i'll spoiler this just incase i say something without knowing...

something i've always wondered...where do they get the names from? Like Symphonia? Does it mean something?[/SPOILER]for me the SNES sprites have more personality, they are one of the last sprites made manually, no CG there and they didn't look like... "chibi".

lastly while GBA is more powerful, it's screen can't display as many colors as SNES did, so colourful games pushing the pallete often have to be toned down, but that's not why it ended up like this... the battles are slower now, it's simply not enjoyable, it just shows that this was a crappy port.

As for where they do get the names... No idea... Symphonia I can understand, but the others I don't. I don't think it really has a meaning though.
Voice acting is terrible on TOP ,I played it for a few min and went 'time for break'the thing is... voice acting is perfect (for 1994 standards) in the original ToP SNES, it was really a cheap work they did there with the GBA version. It really hurts my ears...

but Mokong X-C they didn't fit whole dialogs in the cartridge it's just grunts like link, when in battle they scream things like "heal" and stuff like that... it's nothing major, really.

ToP SNES could have all that top quality (including a singed music) taking up 6 MB... and this one worse in everything... takes up 8 MB it's really the lammest port I've ever seen, sadly.

[Mokong X-C]

This is a real shame, you'd think after the success of TOS they'd give TOP GBA proper attention to detail instead of a lazy port, especially seeing as TOS would have brought loads of new "Tales of" fans (like me) begging for another "Tales of" game.

I think i'll wait till E3, with any luck Namco will announce Rev Virtual Console support and TOP SNES will make the list. Knowning the GBA version is a lackluster attempt of port is a lot like when Hollywood remakes asian horror films:shakehead

As for where they do get the names... No idea... Symphonia I can understand,


Really? Explain please:)


The only way i can get "symphonia" into the game is in the ending
when you're asked to give the new Giant Tree a name and Lloyd says
"I got it, the tree will be called..." and its cut off,
I can't help but say "Symphonia"


I also would love to see an Anime series based on TOS, i wouldn't care that i'd know the story, it would just be really great to see that story play out with gorgeous anime animation:awesome:

[pedrocasilva]

Don't be afraid of the spoiler tags, they are for

Well... Symphonia is a musical composition, but it can mean harmony
and collete is looking to "regenerate the world" so when that happens it could
be a "symphonia", also what happens at the end can also be called Harmony,
I guess
It could have some deep meaning... because the only related titles in the series are Symphonia and Phantasia... Phantasia although coming close to Fantasy (it could be named like that because Final Fantasy), can also be associated with music... being used to describe a medley of familiar themes (with variations and interludes).

I hope so too, I want ToP SNES on my Rev ^_^

We know in ToPhantasia what name Lloyd gave to the Giant Tree,
and it's not Symphonia, I assure you :wink:

There's a Tales of Phantasia Anime (4 episodes), who was finished last month, I doubt they'll do a ToS anime but hey... Phantasia is related :heh:

[ShadowV7]

Yea you find out the name in it never knew there was a short anime must look for it.

[pedrocasilva]

Yea you find out the name in it never knew there was a short anime must look for it.the anime had, big, Big spoilers for Phantasia, ;) including the name of the tree. if any of you plans to play the game/finish it... I'd recomend doing that beforehand :)

[Mokong X-C]

ah so the name is revealed in TOP? I been thinkin bout it, think i'll still get it, just got paid today, so might drop to the shops over the weedend maybe. Dispite what you say is wrong with it, i just can't wait to explore that world agian, even if its not the same characters.

EDIT:

Checked the shop after work, they don't have any more copies and they said they most likely won't get any more in unless they are pre-owned....

[Ten10]

Well namco seem to have dropped all ia endings from their tales games from now. Their all Tempest, Abyss and some other tales game I have now forgotten.

But if Phantasia is supposed to be older than Symphonia ( although I'm pretty sure it was the other way around) How do we find out what Lloyd named the tree if he wasn't alive yet?


Phantasia---------------4000 years---------------------Symphonia?????

Maybe it's just a mistake by NOE.

[pedrocasilva]

Well namco seem to have dropped all ia endings from their tales games from now. Their all Tempest, Abyss and some other tales game I have now forgotten.

But if Phantasia is supposed to be older than Symphonia ( although I'm pretty sure it was the other way around) How do we find out what Lloyd named the tree if he wasn't alive yet?

Phantasia---------------4000 years---------------------Symphonia?????

Maybe it's just a mistake by NOE.Although Phantasia came out first (1994)... Symphonia is a prequel to it, so Lloyd wasn't alive in Phantasia becase he had already died.

I don't think NoE said that, in the interview they talked about "several thousand years after" not even milenia, and that's also Namco's story, so I'm sticking with that, but there are fans who claim 4000 years, don't ask me why. But it really doesn't matter anyway.

Abyss is out in Japan already so it's not considered "in development..."

the following are the registered new titles besides "the Tempest":

* Tales of Howling
* Tales of Two Faiths
* Tales of Doom Sign

Who knows... one of them might be slated for Revolution... sadly Namco has been releasing too much "Tales of" games this generation, the sales for the series are decreasing in Japan... that's why delaying "the Tempest" was a pretty smart move.

[ShadowV7]

I'm looking forward to Tempest now but they are releasing quite a lot though,gonna go back to TOP now.

[casper_uk]

talking of tales i know its not out on the gamecube but i have been playing tales of legendia on my ps2 and i love it! I didn't even no about the tales series till i played symphonia so i guess i got a lot of catching up to do :)

[Ten10]

Yeah Legendia seems to be the last game ending in ia. Namco seem to have dropped the whole ia thing now which I think helped to define the tales series in the same way FF games are I-XII or whatever they are on now. I personally don't like the 2d battle system in legendia. Fighting on one plain isn't as fun as the 3d battle system. Also the main character fights with knucle braces I think which I don't think is a cool weapon for a leader to have. Its all about swords and Giant Iron cleavers.

[pedrocasilva]

talking of tales i know its not out on the gamecube but i have been playing tales of legendia on my ps2 and i love it! I didn't even no about the tales series till i played symphonia so i guess i got a lot of catching up to do :)It's not that good, but Legendia would never come out on gamecube... only tales of the Abyss...

Allow me too explain (also why there's so many games coming out) there was a team created for GC Tales game, that's "Team Symphonia", the only other game they did this generation is Tales of the Abyss (A natural sucessor, using the same engine), and it should be pretty damn good, better than symphonia even (I'd bought it if I had a PS2).

then you have "Team Destiny", who did Tales of Destiny II, Legendia and Rebirth, this generation... (they also did Eternia, and the first Destiny for PSone).

Anyway... Team Symphonia pownz Team Destiny :heh: in every possible way (they also don't release games that often)... shame Abyss isn't coming to GC.Yeah Legendia seems to be the last game ending in ia. Namco seem to have dropped the whole ia thing now(...)Sorry... you lost me there, what's this "IA" thing? I can't figure it out...
The only thing finishing I can think of... is that I heard (dunno if it's confirmed) that "Team Destiny" is getting disbanded after "Tales of the Tempest"... but I don't even know for sure if they are indeed making TotT... so please explain :)

[ShadowV7]

Never knew about all the teams,thanks for the clear up.

[Ten10]

What I meant was for example: tales of: SymphonIA PhantasIA LegendIA EternIA. They seem to have stopped all this and have just gone for plain simple endings like tempest, abyss, Destiny, Howling, world etc. So yeah that is basically what I meant by that.

[ShadowV7]

Ah right I see now.Legendia and Phantasia -maybe Eternia- are all old games though.But yea I get what you men though.

[pedrocasilva]

What I meant was for example: tales of: SymphonIA PhantasIA LegendIA EternIA. They seem to have stopped all this and have just gone for plain simple endings like tempest, abyss, Destiny, Howling, world etc. So yeah that is basically what I meant by that.Oh, I see... I didn't pick that up; you're right, now that you mention it none of the newly registered tales name has that ending to it... I hadn't noticed, do you think it'll reflect a big change in the series?

[ShadowV7]

Probably not a great change,might of been a coinsedence.Could be the same timeline.I think I heard legendia was connected to Symphonia or Phantasia,could be wrong.

[Emasher]

tales of phantasia is conected to tos it happens after.
mithos created the summon spirits then summoned them sheena broke that pact and created a new one meaning she was the second to summon them later (in top) clause summons them and so that is proof that top happens after tos.

[Mokong X-C]

eh... did you guys even read the previous two pages?

[Ten10]

I guess not...

[Nintendo Fan]

Sorry for bringing back this thread from the dead ^_^ but i've just completed it again. What an epic adventure.:love: :heart: :love:
I really want a prequel of Tales of Symphonia for the Wii.
It would be great if in the prequel the story was about the chosen before Collet. Would be cool if Yygdrasiville (sp) is a player in your group but then betrays everyone because of his own wishes. Krastos would be in it. Lloyd's dad and mum would be in it. The game should also tell us where the exphere's were first created.And about the elfs and half-elfs. Rain would be in it.
I just want another one, this game is soooooooooooooo GOOD. I'll play it again in the summer. ^_^

[Stocka]

Sorry for bringing back this thread from the dead ^_^
Dude there's no need to apologise for bumping a thread dedicated to a game as marvellous as Tales of Symphonia.
And yeah I really hope for a prequel or just another game with the same characters.

[Babooo]

How many times can you play TOS????:shock:

With RPG's I find that once I've completed them I'll never go back to them. There is no replay value in RPG's (IMO) and thats why they are so godamn long in the first place.

[Stocka]

I rarely, if ever go back and complete games again once I have completed them, especially RPGs. Instead they last as a wonderful experience in my mind, and I listen to the music to bring back all the memories :smile: I'm tempted to come back and play the likes of BK,ToS and SoA in a few years though possibly.

[Hero-of-Time]

I rarely, if ever go back and complete games again once I have completed them, especially RPGs. Instead they last as a wonderful experience in my mind, and I listen to the music to bring back all the memories :smile: I'm tempted to come back and play the likes of BK,ToS and SoA in a few years though possibly.

Im quite the opposite. When playing a game I like to get 100% on everything so with Tales I have to at least finish it 3 times but with it being an RPG it will be a while before I go through it again. Its like on Baten I refused to finish the game until I got all the cards...took me ages.

[Nintendo Fan]

How many times can you play TOS????:shock:

With RPG's I find that once I've completed them I'll never go back to them. There is no replay value in RPG's (IMO) and thats why they are so godamn long in the first place.

ToS is an exception coz i love it soooo much. Also because when you complete it, the next time you play it again you can start the game with the money, spells, skills etc... by spending your grade points from the previous game.
There are some RPG's that i only play once e.g. Most Final fantasy games, Fire Emblem games. And loads more but the list will drag on ^_^

Dude there's no need to apologise for bumping a thread dedicated to a game as marvellous as Tales of Symphonia.
I take back the Appology .lol. Tales Of Symphonia will always be one of my all time favourites.
:bowdown: Tales of Symphonia:bowdown:

[Ten10]

Considering the amount of things you can do in the game, you can complete it many times over. I've done everything apart from the cursed book dungeon and get each characters affection up more than others each time. I've only done Sheena and Colette, this time I'm working on Raine.

[darksnowman]

Im yet to do a replay, but I think the incentive of having other areas of the quest to concentrate on and maybe do the whole thing in a more chilled out manner - I really played it non stop to get it finished, so to maybe enjoy it a bit more and have a nosey about the world and find the best weapons etc would be cool.

And to see a different ending, because the Lloyd and Collette one was a bit short.

On a side note: does anyone want to predict when this will die out as a thread? I see the Baten Kaitos ones dropping off somewhat, and I plan to ressurrect that in couple of weeks time when I get back to it, so keep an eye out for it making a reappearance!

[Stocka]

On a side note: does anyone want to predict when this will die out as a thread?
NEVER:grin:
My ToS and BK threads have been going since they originally came out and we were at CE, what great threads they've lived to be *strokes*

[Mokong X-C]

Yes, much like the greatness of the game itself this thread will live forever.

You said you'd like to see a prequal of the story of "the choosen" before Colette and then mention, Kratos, Yagdrasill(sp?) etc, but those are two different stories. The whole Kratos and Yagdrasill and Mithos thing in the back story of ToS happened a few thousand years previous in fact there was no "choosen" at the time, that was something Yagdrasill made up after he went evil. Also Rain couldn't be in it either cuz she wouldn't have been born;) ... just had to make sure there was no confusion

I would love to see a prequal or direct sequal made (ie: a sequal featuring Lloyd and co in a new adventure no long after ToS), that would be like a dream come true.

I don't normally replay RPGs either, ToS and OOT (ok i know Zelda games are more Adventure/RPG's but i'm still counting it:p ) are the only ones i ever replayed and i've not just replayed them but have done so more than once, i've been through ToS 4 times and OOT 11 times:D

[Ten10]

You know they will do tales for Wii. They would be stupid not to do tales for Wii. If they do, do a sequel on Wii wouldn't it be great if you could unlock bonuses from having your cube memory card in?This play through I'm going to finish that cursed book quest, all 70 floors/ 10 areas, thats top on my to do list.

[Raven]

You know they will do tales for Wii. They would be stupid not to do tales for Wii. If they do, do a sequel on Wii wouldn't it be great if you could unlock bonuses from having your cube memory card in?This play through I'm going to finish that cursed book quest, all 70 floors/ 10 areas, thats top on my to do list.
like a title :wink: ('Legendary Swordsman' or something)
sounds about right.
would really enjoy a tales game on the wii.

[darksnowman]

So if we want a sequel with all the same characters, just set in the future a bit, does that mean that youre itching for a more mature Tales with older badder characters that swear even more often than their kiddy cel shaded counter parts?

Replace the sword fighting with gunplay...?

[Nintendo Fan]

But anyway back to Tales of Symphonia...although there are many Tales games i'd personally love a sequel as the characters are so likeable. I had a thought a while ago and I wonder if its possible for IN GAME graphics of a next gen Tales game to look like the FMV in ToS. It would be incredible.

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-001.jpg

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-002.jpg

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/tales-gc/intro-003.jpg

Now this would be AWESOME.

So if we want a sequel with all the same characters, just set in the future a bit, does that mean that youre itching for a more mature Tales with older badder characters that swear even more often than their kiddy cel shaded counter parts?

Replace the sword fighting with gunplay...?

I wouldn't want the sword play changed to gunplay coz it wouldn't suite it imo. The swearing wasn't a major part of the game but if they do make another Tales, they should keep the swearing how it was not too much.
I would like the grpahics to be like the pics above. Allthough the cell shaded graphics were ok.

[Dasky]

does anyone know if you can buy the official walkthrough for this game?

[pedrocasilva]

does anyone know if you can buy the official walkthrough for this game?yes, you can:

-> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0744004039/sr=8-2/qid=1148672532/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-1087262-6656808?%5Fencoding=UTF8

and:

-> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0744004039/qid=1148672432/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-1348761-8042218

[Hero-of-Time]

does anyone know if you can buy the official walkthrough for this game?

I used it and its great, I highly recommed picking it up. It tells you about how to get all the Titles and Cooking skills not to mention all the sidequests.

[Hero-of-Time]

Well I have just started playing this again. Im about 2 hours into it and im falling in love with it all over again. I wanted to play an RPG but I still cant bring myself around to starting Fire Emblem and seeing how I havent played this since I last finished it ( a couple of weeks after its release ) I thought what the hell and put it in my Cube. Kratos still ownz!

[pedrocasilva]

Well I have just started playing this again. Im about 2 hours into it and im falling in love with it all over again. I wanted to play an RPG but I still cant bring myself around to starting Fire Emblem and seeing how I havent played this since I last finished it ( a couple of weeks after its release ) I thought what the hell and put it in my Cube. Kratos still ownz!I finally finished ToS this week, I didn't get stuck, just played to much one (or two) weeks and reached 40 playthrough hours then I was at the elf village and all I decided to stop to spare the game more... I got back to it last week so I finished it at 42 hours or so on the first run (small game). good RPG but the argument was so cliché... I hoped Collete would just have a heart attack and die throughout the game, or stayed without voice forever for that matter.

This game could be even better, that's where I'm getting at, loved it anyway though...

I started Baten Kaitos again, I was stuck at 22 hours, so I made a fresh start, I'm now at 3 hours playthrough. :)

[Marshmellow]

this game is crazy addictive i hate it, once you start playing even if its just for fun you cant stop until you beat it. I member I was browsing the Internet for info about Tales of Symphonia and i found C-E and thats how I registered ahh good memories.

[Zoot]

And to see a different ending, because the Lloyd and Collette one was a bit short.

Are there different kinds of endings?

[pedrocasilva]

Are there different kinds of endings?yes, don't expect a diferent full blown ending, but... expect a ending with some diferences.

[Zoot]

Ok, thanks. I was gonna play it again but at some point I got bored. Now I have some reason to play it again till the end.

[JammyJu]

It really pains me to read this thread. I had this last year and i was pretty sick but this game got me through then...i sold it though for resi 4, and iv regretted selling it ever since. Im sorry :'(!!!

It brought a tear to my eye when the characters all risk there lifes for Lloyd.
'

[Emasher]

i found a realy cool tos fan site though its in german try going to the galleryen part on the side.

http://rainy.oyla5.de

by the way you can find a movie of an ending at the google movies section of google

: peace: :laughing: : peace:

[Hero-of-Time]

Thanks for that I have been looking for some Tales Gifs for ages.

[Stocka]

Yeah those are fantastic. Cheers!

[khan]

Can someone please help me out :confused: i am at a stage where Tower of Mana is closed, when i try to enter Asgard Ranch Lloyd go backs to the main map saying he should not be there. I have already met Sheena in Lium and been to Hima as well as the lake where Unicorn is resting under a lake.

Can someone please point to me what to do? in short i do not have yet Sheena in my group and do not have key to the Tower of Mana and no access to Asgard Ranch.

[Emasher]

have you beat the wind temple because there are 2 seens in luin with sheena one after the wind temp and one before head to asguard if you havent beeten the wind temp yet. also was the sceen in luin u saw recently of rain healing sheena and also have you gone to palmacosta yet because there is a way youcan do the wind and light temples before the water temple i did it in my new file now im a thunder temple and the reverse order of the seals was easy.

[khan]

as far as i can remember i have done both seals...btw i beaten sheena just as i was about to come out of wind seal(watever its called)...i have only seen sheena in Luin: City of Hope once and that was near the fountain.

Also how do i get back to the palmacosta because i remember going on max's ship he no longer take me.

-EDIT-
i remember one seal being the ruins in the desert while the newer was Balacruf Mausoleum.

[Emasher]

i think its izzlod you want to get to not palmacosta. take the bridge by hima.

if you havent healed sheena in luin yet go to the fountain in luin (luin should be destroyed)

you should have compleated the triet ruins fire seal, thoda gyser water seal, and brailcruf moloseum wind seal.

if this dosent help use game faqs and searh for tales of symphonia then go to faqs and guides.

http://www.gamefaqs.com

[khan]

i think its izzlod you want to get to not palmacosta. take the bridge by hima.

if you havent healed sheena in luin yet go to the fountain in luin (luin should be destroyed)

you should have compleated the triet ruins fire seal, thoda gyser water seal, and brailcruf moloseum wind seal.

if this dosent help use game faqs and searh for tales of symphonia then go to faqs and guides.

http://www.gamefaqs.com

how do i get to the thoda gyser water seal? tried gamefaqs many times...

[Emasher]

you go to thodda dock

i'm going to publish a guide to tos on my web when i publish it so you could
look there posibly in a few weeks.

But if you do the wind temple before the water temple you must do the tower of mana then the assguard human ranch before you can got to izlood and get to palmacosta if your stuck some times try the sonopsis on the man menue it sometimes tells you what your party has decided to do next and if this is your first play though you realy should not have attempted to do wind temple before water temple but its to late now.

[Meroigo]

Awesome game. I just finished it some weeks ago. There are not many games I play 10 hours long sessions, but this was one of them. =)

[The3rdChildren]

There's a Tales of Symphonia anime OVA coming out in Japan next year.

Fucking brilliant!

Tales of Symphonia Anime (2006-06-20 13:00:16)
Ufotable will produce a Tales of Symphonia OAV series for release in Japan next year. The series, based on the popular Namco RPG, will be directed by Haruo Tonosaki with character design by Akira Matsushima. Source: Animenation [ discuss (1 posts) ]

Source: http://www.animate.tv/nf/detail.php?id=0000000693

Also a news item on AnimeNewsNetwork.

[Emasher]

we may get it subtitled like the top one but it wont get english voice acting and even if it does they wont be the same actors as in tos (gcn version)

if were realy lucky though it will be on a network in canada and us and uk and it will have similar voice acting and if no we will be able to watch it online with english subtitles.

[AeroScap]

O
M
G!


FRICKING GET IN!

I just hope I will actually remember to watch it a year later..

[Mokong X-C]

Well thats another DVD to my to get list, yeah i'd only like an english dub if they could get the same voice actors as the game.

Also i just found this video on youtube.

A Japanese guy gets over 10,000 hit combo (on PS version) OMG, i wish i could do that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u90Reqx76Gw

[Ten10]

I decided that in the time that I've been with out telephone, tv and internet during the time I moved I would try and finish this 100% I just need one more monster for the monster list, and it is a gentleman except I don't think I've ever faced one. Ever.


The best tos video I have every seen is someone beating abyssion on mania mode with a lv 6 colette.

[Zoot]

Umm... hmm... what exactly was supposed to be different when you finish this game the second time because I could almost swear the end was exactly the same when I completed it the first time.

Well anyway I'm now gonna play through it again the third time and hopefully be able complete all of the sidequests this time.

[Ten10]

The ending only changes if you upped someone's affection other colette. Also if you have Kratos in your team Zelo's obviously won't make an appearance.

[Zoot]

Thanks for the info but I think I should have figured that somehow from the katz village. Then again now that I think about it I wouldn't have.

[Ten10]

Anyway today Namco released the name of a new tales of game: tales of the quiz. This may or may not be very fun.

[Emasher]

um okay... is it for a nintendo system? could it be a puzzle game? will it have characters from another tales game? does quiz mean something in japanese?

so many questions :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :nono:

[Zero]

It just seems like Namco are milking the tales of series now for all its worth

[Tellyn]

I really want to buy Tales of Symphonia but everywhere I look it's 34.99 or more expensive, I can't even find it cheap preowned.

[pedrocasilva]

I really want to buy Tales of Symphonia but everywhere I look it's 34.99 or more expensive, I can't even find it cheap preowned.It costs $19.99 in US, that is 11£ plus postage... then with a freeloader that i've seen at 7£ somewhere you're set.

or you could buy it on some internet store or ebay, I'm sure you can buy one for 29£ but I wouldn't count on lower than that for the PAL version.

[Ten10]

It just seems like Namco are milking the tales of series now for all its worth

And can you say squenix hasn't done that with the ff series already?

[Zero]

And can you say squenix hasn't done that with the ff series already?

Of course they have. They are even worse for it.

[thomaschung]

I think I bought mine brand new for £30 near when it came out. Believe me it's worth £35. You won't regret it.

At least the Tales games don't have silly numbers appended on to the name, so each installment can be treated as a separate new game.

[Hero-of-Time]

You can get it for £29.99 off Play.com plus its free delivery.

[Nintendo Fan]

My little brother erased everything from my memory cards :angry: I was sooooooo pissed at him :angry: i don't mind playing ToS again :)
I'll complete all my again during my summer holidays.

[Hero-of-Time]

Unlucky man, Its very rare that I play through an RPG twice ( FF7 AND 8 are the exceptions ) but I know how much you love this game so it shouldnt be a problem for you. :grin:

[Goron_3]

Just felt like posting, because I had BIG NEWS!

At the moment, I'm re-making Tales of Symphonia in 2d, and I have a demo ready to be uploaded onto the net OR to be sent to you guys over msn. The graphics are Snes-like and the battles are like FF7. If you're interested in the demo (lasts about 10mins or so), tell me and i'll post a link for everyone to download it (or PM me for my MSN).

Anyway, I think I'm gonna replay Tales lol.

[The3rdChildren]

Just felt like posting, because I had BIG NEWS!

At the moment, I'm re-making Tales of Symphonia in 2d, and I have a demo ready to be uploaded onto the net OR to be sent to you guys over msn. The graphics are Snes-like and the battles are like FF7. If you're interested in the demo (lasts about 10mins or so), tell me and i'll post a link for everyone to download it (or PM me for my MSN).

Anyway, I think I'm gonna replay Tales lol.

Post that link, dude.

[Eddage]

Post that link, dude.

Seconded, sounds great!

[Tellyn]

Wow that sounds good! Can you PM me your MSN address please?

[spirited away]

Just felt like posting, because I had BIG NEWS!

At the moment, I'm re-making Tales of Symphonia in 2d, and I have a demo ready to be uploaded onto the net OR to be sent to you guys over msn. The graphics are Snes-like and the battles are like FF7. If you're interested in the demo (lasts about 10mins or so), tell me and i'll post a link for everyone to download it (or PM me for my MSN).

Anyway, I think I'm gonna replay Tales lol.

Can you Pm me with your msn please. I'm really interested :grin:

[pedrocasilva]

sounds really good. can you post some images?

and how are you doing it?

[Nintendo Fan]

Unlucky man, Its very rare that I play through an RPG twice ( FF7 AND 8 are the exceptions ) but I know how much you love this game so it shouldnt be a problem for you. :grin:

It's going to be the 3rd time finish this game :smile: This time im going to try get all the characters to a high lvl, the highest i've had was lvl 72 before completing the game.
After this game i'll have 15 more games to re-comeplete :(

[Marshmellow]

Just felt like posting, because I had BIG NEWS!

At the moment, I'm re-making Tales of Symphonia in 2d, and I have a demo ready to be uploaded onto the net OR to be sent to you guys over msn. The graphics are Snes-like and the battles are like FF7. If you're interested in the demo (lasts about 10mins or so), tell me and i'll post a link for everyone to download it (or PM me for my MSN).

Anyway, I think I'm gonna replay Tales lol.

I'm really intersted in this, and would love the link sent to me or posted here preferably!

POST THE LINK!!!!

[Ten10]

Reminds me of oot 2d which mysteriously disappeared. I still have the demo of that on my old pc

[pedrocasilva]

Reminds me of oot 2d which mysteriously disappeared. I still have the demo of that on my old pcNintendo gave the guy a C&D letter (cease and desist), as he was not anonymous (he gave the name out)... Daniel Barras.

[Tellyn]

I still have Ocarina of Time 2D demo, it was lovely. I was sad that the site shut down, he made quite a few Zelda games and had Wind Waker and Majora's Mask projects going too.

[Goron_3]

Ok here's the link for the game AND for the instructions to install it, which are quite important!!!

Link for Game:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=97VFSJT8

Link for Instructions (VERY IMPORTANT)!!!:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AAX6NCKS

When you go on the link, you need to do the following!
1. Near the top right hand side, there is a box an beside it are 3 letters/numbers. You need to enter them into the box and then click the download button!
2. Now, in the same place as where the letters where, you will see a countdown. When this reaches 0, click it to download the file

Please make sure you download the second link because it explains the controls and how to install it, which takes a long time for me to repeat so read it!

Anyway replies would be good! :D

cheers

[Ten10]

despite your indept downloading walkthrough, I am unable to download either. Hopefully the case is that my laptop is just being moody at the moment.

[Tellyn]

I got download limit exceeded (on site, I have no download limit on my internet) and it tried to get me to sign up to the site.

[Goron_3]

I got download limit exceeded (on site, I have no download limit on my internet) and it tried to get me to sign up to the site.

Hmmm, ok.
I'll put it on www.yousendit.com. should be better :D

If all else fails, add me onto your msn!!! AnilParmar2004@hotmail.com

EDIT: Ok I can't use Yousendit.com so it'll be better if you add me to your msn OR you could PM me your email adress and it'll be ALOT quicker that way.

[Zell]

Play that demo! I tested it and corrected some mistakes, it's still pretty awesome though! The best thing about it is that a lot of the character sprites are ff7 characters... you'll find Barret and Aeris in there!

[Goron_3]

Play that demo! I tested it and corrected some mistakes, it's still pretty awesome though! The best thing about it is that a lot of the character sprites are ff7 characters... you'll find Barret and Aeris in there!

Cheers for that :D

Also, there are some Zelda sprites...is there anything my demo doesn't have!