Terrorist Threat Defused in London

[Blackfox]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm

Fucking terrorists. Luckily it was found a diffused before it could be set off.

[thirtynine.]

Car bombs are so 1980. pfft.

[BlueStar]

Sounds more like a lone mentalist loaded his car with fuel tanks and did some kamikaze driving than some Al Quaeda master-minded plot

Security sources told CNN that the suspected bomb was "a relatively crude device" containing at least 200 liters, or about 50 gallons, of fuel in canisters.

"There is no indication it was about to be remotely detonated, or detonated at all," said CNN International Security Correspondent Paula Newton.

[Daft]

Damn, I pass by there virtually every day....I was there on Wednesday....

[Stefkov]

I saw this on the news this morning before watching Super market Sweep.

Does my nut in with all these bombs and shit.

[Mikey]

I'm really sick and tired of these Muslim terrorist *****.

[Daft]

I remember once, when I was in St Petersburg, a car bomb going off. I was a couple streets away...It was f*cking scary...

[ViPeR]

I'm really sick and tired of these Muslim terrorist *****.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I'm really sick and tired of these Muslim terrorist *****.

I don't think you're meant to like them. Terrorists are meant to be about, you know, blowing things up and causing destruction. Not somebody you can have a kickabout with down the park, or have tea and biscuits with. :heh:

[mike-zim]

Bloody terrorists. What the hell is their problem. It pisses me off. good thing i aint prime minister.

lets just leave it at that.

[Mikey]

Their problem is, we're infidels, and must be destroyed. This is why I don't like Islam.

[Noodleman]

I'm really sick and tired of these Muslim terrorist *****.

Where does it say it was muslims?

[Mundi]

Don´t blame a whole religion on the acts of a very small minority group.

And i didn´t read anything about muslim terrorists being involved....yet

[Fierce_LiNk]

Their problem is, we're infidels, and must be destroyed. This is why I don't like Islam.

Hey, some of us are alright, y'know. :heh:

[Haver]

I am not a security expert, but the BBC's security expert, who is a security expert, claims sources in Whitehall that tell him the nature of the car-bomb (which is a crude petrol-gas-nail type similar to ones that appear in Iraq) is international (?) which is tentative-speak for jihadists. There will now be all the time in the world for the jihad-sympathizers on the British left and in the anti-war movement to scream 'Iraq!' and 'Afghanistan!' and 'Palestine!' and 'Kashmir!'.

[BlueStar]

I fully expect a spineless opinion piece in the Daily Mail tomorrow about how we should give in to the terrorists, allow ourselves to be terrorised and surrender the long-held freedoms they hate before they attack again...

[mike-zim]

ok before everyone jumps on Mikey's back. He didn't say he hated muslims he said he hated muslim terrorists. Please note the difference as i have exactly the same feeling.

[motion]

Where does it say it was muslims?

Exactly. The amount of stereotyping and stupid remarks on this thread is truly astounding.

[Ant-Shimmin]

I fully expect a spineless opinion piece in the Daily Mail tomorrow about how we should give in to the terrorists, allow ourselves to be terrorised and surrender the long-held freedoms they hate before they attack again...

Haha..

On a serious note though, that is just a very small reminder how fucked up this world is..

[thirtynine.]

We have had more Irish terrorist attacks in this country than Muslim. And car bombs is more the ira's style.

[Roostophe]

Exactly. The amount of stereotyping and stupid remarks on this thread is truly astounding.

Well, you'd be one to know about stupid remarks, having said so many yourself. :indeed:

I don't know what to think about these terrorists, although the fact that they're screaming "Death to Britain" and what have you, yet living in a cushy house kinda makes you think, well, makes me think anyway.

[Blackfox]

Now now ladies, let's put out the flames...

Its not been said who it was yet, but it look similar to the carbombs used in Iraq. However, even if it was Muslims who did it - its a part of the tiny portion of them who hate the West. Most Muslims are nice people - just look at Flink! Let's wait and see before we cast judgment.

[Mikey]

Where does it say it was muslims?

Give it time, and it'll be muslims probably.

[Hellfire]

We should just send an H-Bomb to those countries and wipe them all out.

I'm kidding of course, that'd be ridiculous.

[Mikey]

Hey, some of us are alright, y'know. :heh:

Yeah, I'm sure you are, but your religion needs to clean itself up.

[motion]

Well, you'd be one to know about stupid remarks, having said so many yourself. :indeed:


Good one! .

[Ant-Shimmin]

Yeah, I'm sure you are, but your religion needs to clean itself up.

No it doesn't, it's the extremists that are interpretting the Qu'ran the wrong way.

[thirtynine.]

Yeah, I'm sure you are, but your religion needs to clean itself up.
Thats just bulshit. The muslims who claim to be muslims and yet bomb other countrys are probally like 1 in every million muslim in the world. And its not like other religions havent done even worse things, just look at the christian crusades.

[Ant-Shimmin]

Let's face facts

Religion Sucks, no Relgion, No War, No Problems...

Why can't we all just believe that we live, die and return to the ground....

I'm Christan By the way but only by name...

[Mikey]

No it doesn't, it's the extremists that are interpretting the Qu'ran the wrong way.

I hear this sorta stuff all of the time. I'm no religion expert, but every one seems to interpret the koran, bible, etc in different ways. Who's to say that the way the terrorists way of following it is wrong? The bible hates homosexuals, yet when that weirdo group in the US preaches hate against gays, every one is like, waffle waffle blah blah, you're taking it the wrong way. Load of nonsense to me.

Stupid backwards religions need a kick up the ass. Especially Islam. I'm sick to death of being threatened by terrorist assholes.

[motion]

Listen to Ant and thirtynine Mikey, they talk a lot of sense.

[Mikey]

Listen to Ant and thirtynine Mikey, they talk a lot of sense.

Well Ant just said Islam doesn't need to clean itself up, and then said all religions suck right afterwards. I'm not having a go at him, but that was pretty ridiculous.

[Ant-Shimmin]

I hear this sorta stuff all of the time. I'm no religion expert,Really Now???


but every one seems to interpret the koran, bible, etc in different ways. Who's to say that the way the terrorists way of following it is wrong? The bible hates homosexuals, yet when that weirdo group in the US preaches hate against gays, every one is like, waffle blah blah, you're taking it the wrong way. Load of nonsense to me.

Stupid backwards religions need a kick up the ass. Especially Islam.

The Terrorists way of interpretting it is wrong because literally the whole of the Muslim world is against these terrorists and their morals, if their motives where remotely right then every Muslim going would be behind these bastards, the terrorists don't even make up 1% of the Muslim population and most Muslims are peaceful worshippers who are just normal guys like you and me.

Well Ant just said Islam doesn't need to clean itself up, and then said all religions suck right afterwards. I'm not having a go at him, but that was pretty ridiculous.

Islam doesn't need to clean itself up

Relgions Suck was just a general view, but it was nothing against Islam

[Mikey]

The Terrorists way of interpretting it is wrong because literally the whole of the Muslim world is against these terrorists and their morals, if their motives where remotely right then every Muslim going would be behind these bastards, the terrorists don't even make up 1% of the Muslim population and most Muslims are peaceful worshippers who are just normal guys like you and me.

It doesn't matter what the whole of the muslim world is against. The muslim world doesn't get to determine what Islam is, and isn't. That's the Allah's and the Koran's job. The bible hates gays, yet most christians claim to be against homophobia.

[D-Day]

Not jumping here to cause any harm, but religion down to the bone is meant to be about law order (amongst many other things). The man-made law of today, people selectively follow, regardless of how law-abiding you may think you are, there are laws set in the world that we break. Same thing with religion Mikey (not jumping at you at all), which is why the bible may be against homosexuals, but many christians aren't homophobic, it's all free will.

Back on point, this really is a reminder of how ill the world is.

[motion]

The bible hates gays

Does it? I don't think so.

[Ant-Shimmin]

It doesn't matter what the whole of the muslim world is against. The muslim world doesn't get to determine what Islam is, and isn't. That's the Allah's and the Koran's job. The bible hates gays, yet most christians claim to be against homophobia.

It's like most religions, they follow a book and interpret what Allah/God Says, people live by their inerpretations but the Muslim world knows the Extremeists intepretation of Islam is wrong, you are discriminating and stereotyping the traditional muslim who is just like any other person, reguardless of religion.

[weeyellowbloke]

We have had more Irish terrorist attacks in this country than Muslim. And car bombs is more the ira's style.

Nah, can't be the IRA as they're all about peace and kittens now.

Hey, some of us are alright, y'know. :heh:

I don't know, I wouldn't trust you. You could just be trying to lure us all into a false sense of security. :wink:

Seriously though, I just don't get what terrorism hopes to achieve. Well done, you've killed a few hundred innocent people, great way to get them to listen to your views dipshit. Honestly, if they have problems with Britain, our way of life, the various wars we're involved in, there are better ways of expressing it.

[Mikey]

Does it? I don't think so.


www.evilbible.com

[Dyson]

oshi, race row

[Mikey]

It's like most religions, they follow a book and interpret what Allah/God Says, people live by their inerpretations but the Muslim world knows the Extremeists intepretation of Islam is wrong, you are discriminating and stereotyping the traditional muslim who is just like any other person, reguardless of religion.

I'm not discriminating against anyone, I'm calling Islam a load of horse shit. There, I said it.

oshi, race row

There's no race row, muslims aren't a race.

[Ant-Shimmin]

I'm not discriminating against anyone, I'm calling Islam a load of horse shit. There, I said it.

The Majority of People who follow it aren't Horse Shit, or full of it...

[Mikey]

I never said they were.

[motion]

Somehow I don't think they give a stuff if you don't like their religion. They do. Get over it.

[Mikey]

I'm sure if I went to Iraq with my "I hate Islam" T shirt I wouldn't last very long. I'm sure I'll be hated for saying this, but I'm saying it anyway.

[Ant-Shimmin]

I'm sure if I went to Iraq with my "I hate Islam" T shirt I wouldn't last very long. I'm sure I'll be hated for saying this, but I'm saying it anyway.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose

[Mikey]

Are you trying to claim that if I went to Iraq with a t shirt like that, no one would care? I'm pretty sure they would.

[BlueStar]

Do you think walking around Utah with an I Hate Christians t-shirt on no-one would care?

And since when was the clusterfuck of current day Iraq any kind of yardstick as to how we in this country should behave?

[Mikey]

Do you think walking around Utah with an I Hate Christians t-shirt on no-one would care?

And since when was the clusterfuck of current day Iraq any kind of yardstick as to how we in this country should behave?

Nope. I seen a video of one guy with a devil costume in the US get attacked once. By the way, I never said I hated muslims, I said I hated Islam. I hate Christianity too, yet one of my best friend's is christian.

[motion]

I'm no religion expert


As Ant says, ignorance is bliss.

[Paj!]

2 years ago, on July 7, the horrendous bombings happened. it was also the day of my School "Exhibiton" (Farewell for the summer thing).

Then this happened this year, on my Exhibition, AGAIN!

Dun-Dun-DUUUN.

[Mikey]

As Ant says, ignorance is bliss.

I don't need to be an expert to know enough that it's a load of muck.

[Shino]

Doesn't lool like Al-Qaeda's work, its just not big enough and too rudimentary. Why waste a perfectly good terrorist cell with something like this.

[UziT]

Their problem is, we're infidels, and must be destroyed. This is why I don't like Islam.

erm excuse me, I study Islam...and no where does it say that.

[mike-zim]

i want to start a terrorist group and terrorise the terrorists. Find out who they are and car bomb the fuck out of them.

[UziT]

i want to start a terrorist group and terrorise the terrorists. Find out who they are and car bomb the fuck out of them.

Then your no differnt to them if you can go with that mentality.....oh well

[mike-zim]

i dont really care. if i wiped em out before they wiped me out then i could stop. and the world would be a better place.

[UziT]

i dont really care. if i wiped em out before they wiped me out then i could stop. and the world would be a better place.

Good point hehe,

[AshMat]

I don't efven think this was terrorists tbh, just a car with gas cans..

[Haver]

erm excuse me, I study Islam...and no where does it say that.

Well, this gets to the heart of the problem, in that submitting oneself, fanatically in some cases, to wish-thinking and deity-worship, one can commit the most terrible acts in the name of that God, or that book. This is what happens when you let a book, your or your Masters' interpretation of a book, no less, live your life. Hence Hamas, hence Iran, hence al-Qaeda, hence jihadism and so on.

[Ramar]

I'm just pleased they foiled the attack, and in a selfish way, glad it was this thursday and not next thursday when I'm in London. Because if an attack happened while I was in London it would shit me up for life, if I wasn't direct involved that is.

[rokhed00]

I don't efven think this was terrorists tbh, just a car with gas cans..

Yep, probably just someone stocking up so they can keep their generator going when the apocalypse comes.

[conzer16]

Can't believe people have resorted to blaming Islam and Muslims already.

That is so fucking bigotted of you.

It could be some toff nosed English mentaller for a we know at the moment.

Grow up the lot of you and stop being such xenophobic gobshites.

[Daft]

I've just come back from there. Its a bit wierd seeing that street empty...

Also I haven't seen so many tourists in London for ages, its absolutly packed...more so than normal.

[Jordan]

Holy crap Mikey.
I'd stop now digging that hole right about now.

[mike-zim]

Conzer what a way to tone down the discussion.

[stuwii]

We should just send an H-Bomb to those countries and wipe them all out.

I'm kidding of course, that'd be ridiculous.

Wouldnt put it past USA

[Haver]

Can't believe people have resorted to blaming Islam and Muslims already.

That is so fucking bigotted of you.

It could be some toff nosed English mentaller for a we know at the moment.

Grow up the lot of you and stop being such xenophobic gobshites.

And let you grow up too!

Simple empiricism tells us that this is more likely the work of either al-Qaeda jihadists or their sympathizers than it is the work of the IRA or the ALF or the 'toff nosed English mentaller' (especially considering the 'international element' to the bomb equipment quoted by the BBC). It is reasonable to suggest that, is it not?

And there you have it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,2114743,00.html

We cannot be afraid to condemn jihad or Islamo-fascism for fear of upsetting Muslims, in the same way we must not be afraid of giving one of our best authors a knighthood for fear of upsetting Pakistan.

[conzer16]

And let you grow up too!

Simple empiricism tells us that this is more likely the work of either al-Qaeda jihadists or their sympathizers than it is the work of the IRA or the ALF or the 'toff nosed English mentaller' (especially considering the 'international element' to the bomb equipment quoted by the BBC). It is reasonable to suggest that, is it not?

International element to the bomb equipment??

Nails, Gas canisters, Petrol and a mobile phone??

Oh please dont make me laugh...

Edit: Islam and Muslim have become bywords for terrorism and terrorist. That's all due to the paranoia reulting from Bush and Blair's invasion of Iraq.

It's wrong to assume straight off that Islamic terrorists are responsible even if they are found to be after the investigation, but blaming an incident on them as soon as it happens is bigotted and wrong.

Ooooh Car bomb = Islamic militants from Iraq!!!

I suppose a pipe bomb would equate to Irish republicans??

[immy]

Hey, some of us are alright, y'know. :heh:

Your Muslim?

[Haver]

I don't see how that is laughable.

'The device was described by counter-terrorism sources as similar to car bombs used in Iraq.' (Guardian)

[Shino]

I don't see how that is laughable.

'The device was described by counter-terrorism sources as similar to car bombs used in Iraq.' (Guardian)

That's hardly any evidence.

[conzer16]

I don't see how that is laughable.

'The device was described by counter-terrorism sources as similar to car bombs used in Iraq.' (Guardian)

Similar does not mean the same as or caused by Muslims

Nails and petrol are just as widely available in London as in Baghdad.

What a stupid argument.

[Haver]

Well, it is. It is evidence. It suggests to us that the bomb makers were either inspired by that sort of improvised device, or were instructed to build that sort of improvised device. Of course, it may prove to be coincidental. But it is evidence, and evidence is at the heart of reason.

It is simple empiricism, given the diminishing IRA threat, to submit that it is more likely that a terrorist threat in London would be an Islamic one. Of course we do not know, but we can suppose based on empirical evidence.

To suggest otherwise is wet.

Similar does not mean the same as or caused by Muslims

Nails and petrol are just as widely available in London as in Baghdad.

What a stupid argument.

You are preaching to the wrong person, my man. I am referring to Islamic terrorists, or jihadists. Not Muslims, although, obviously, Islamic terrorists are Muslims by definition.

[BlueStar]

i want to start a terrorist group and terrorise the terrorists. Find out who they are and car bomb the fuck out of them.

I believe that was pretty much the ideology of outlawed loyalist paramilitary groups like the UDF and the Red Hand Defenders, and indeed the 'justification' of at least some of the factions blowing shizzle up outside rival factions mosques over in eye-rack. Indeed the US are supplying some militant groups in Iraq with funds and weapons in the hope that they're the 'good' terrorists. Can't see that backfring at all.

[Mikey]

erm excuse me, I study Islam...and no where does it say that.


Quran.8:12: I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.

http://www.carm.org/islam/terrorism.htm

[Haver]

I don't think anyone should comment on the Koran until they've read the thing, or at least read a biography of the thing.

Don't Google 'bad koran quotes' and post one. That's insulting.

[or else you will DIE]

ok before everyone jumps on Mikey's back. He didn't say he hated muslims he said he hated muslim terrorists. Please note the difference as i have exactly the same feeling.

same here, but oh man aren't those russian terrorists a hoot!

[Mikey]

I don't think anyone should comment on the Koran until they've read the thing, or at least read a biography of the thing.

Don't Google 'bad koran quotes' and post one. That's insulting.

It is what it is. I'm not making it up.

[thirtynine.]

It is what it is. I'm not making it up.
But its out of context. So for all you know it could be part where they say this is how an evil man behaved or something. Basicly you are acting like an idiot. There is nothing wrong with Islam as a whole it is certain sects which are bad. You know nothing about this terrorist "plot" its probally a 99% chance its just some idiot driving round with a hell of alot of petrol in the trunk which has nothing to do with wanting to blow something up.

[Maiky-NiSuTe]

i only can say one thing to this event... first i am glad every one is safe and second i hope they will find the brain dead guy and jail him for the rest of his life!

[motion]

Mikey educates himself using "evilbible.com" what do you expect?

[Shino]

Well, it is. It is evidence. It suggests to us that the bomb makers were either inspired by that sort of improvised device, or were instructed to build that sort of improvised device. Of course, it may prove to be coincidental. But it is evidence, and evidence is at the heart of reason.

It is simple empiricism, given the diminishing IRA threat, to submit that it is more likely that a terrorist threat in London would be an Islamic one. Of course we do not know, but we can suppose based on empirical evidence.

To suggest otherwise is wet.

Given the crude nature of the device, it can hardly be a patented as an Islamic terrorist bomb. Of course, given current circumstances its easy to assume the terrorist had the same ideals as those in Iraq, but anything beyond that is speculation.

[conzer16]

Regardless of who did it the police man who risked his life to remove the mobile phone detonator is a hero.

Well done that man

[Tellyn]

same here, but oh man aren't those russian terrorists a hoot!

I prefer the Serbians. Dennis Hopper's accent is hilarious.

I'm glad they defused this bomb, but it doesn't really sound like something a major terrorist group would do. The area didn't seem populated enough.

[Mikey]

Mikey educates himself using "evilbible.com" what do you expect?


Are you denying the bible says rapists should marry their victims?

But its out of context. So for all you know it could be part where they say this is how an evil man behaved or something. Basicly you are acting like an idiot. There is nothing wrong with Islam as a whole it is certain sects which are bad. You know nothing about this terrorist "plot" its probally a 99% chance its just some idiot driving round with a hell of alot of petrol in the trunk which has nothing to do with wanting to blow something up.


There's nothing to take out of context. It's barbaric no matter what the context.

I don't need to know anything about the terrorist plot either. Even if it isn't Islam motivated, Islam is still a load of crap, for all the reasons I've already given.

I'm not going to tip toe around Islam just because some PCers, and Muslims may get offended.

[thirtynine.]

There's nothing to take out of context. It's barbaric no matter what the context.

Your actually special. It is taken out of context by definition as it has no context.

[Mikey]

Yes, I am special. Thank you very much.

If that's taken out of context, then any quote from any book is out of context.

[motion]

Are you denying the bible says rapists should marry their victims?


I don't personally care to be honest. I don't follow religion nor do I pay any attention to the bible.

[Mikey]

I don't personally care to be honest. I don't follow religion nor do I pay any attention to the bible.


Then maybe you shouldn't use what sites I read as a way to discredit me. Thx very much.

[Caris]

This thread should be locked.

[thirtynine.]

Yes, I am special. Thank you very much.

If that's taken out of context, then any quote from any book is out of context.
Also considering that what you have written is in english and the Qur'an is not, then someone could have said anything. Anyway stop the conversation here.

[Paj!]

Realistically; we have to come ot terms with the fact that our scoiety has both terror bombs and bombings equated to some religious mad groupd in the east. Of course there's other possibilties, but it's a lot more likely a suggestion than many other things.

I don't think it was (based on what the public know), but don't jump down someones throat because they expressed what crossed everyone's mind the second the news broke out.

(That sounds awful and harsh, but in many cases it would have been true)

[Mikey]

You can close the thread if you want, I've said everything I've wanted to say. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree, as the saying goes.

[motion]

Then maybe you shouldn't use what sites I read as a way to discredit me. Thx very much.


I don't have to be into religion to recognise that using a site like evilbible.com probably isn't the best way to learn about religion.

[BlueStar]

"Too Early" to point the finger at Al Quaeda
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070629.wbombplot0629/BNStory/Front

Like I say, sounds less like an internationally organised attack and more like a 'self-starter' AKA random dumbass who fancies himself as a martyr.

[Max]

We need more muslims in MI5 and police, aka "informers" to help protect people from the cancer that is within some segments of muslims.

Identify nature of threat,
locate threat,
terminate.

[UziT]

Quran.8:12: I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.

http://www.carm.org/islam/terrorism.htm

My brother, dont go on to random website off google, people have twisted islam in such a way thats its unbelivable. People like the Al Quaeda are doing this, using Islam to kill inocent people!!

[Tellyn]

To be honest it's a small minority of Muslims that carry out these attacks, it's not a general thing amongst them to execute these acts of terrorism.

I highly doubt that Al Qaeda even have any respect for their religion. They use it as a shield and as an excuse to be vicious bastards.

[rokhed00]

But its out of context. So for all you know it could be part where they say this is how an evil man behaved or something. Basicly you are acting like an idiot. There is nothing wrong with Islam as a whole it is certain sects which are bad. You know nothing about this terrorist "plot" its probally a 99% chance its just some idiot driving round with a hell of alot of petrol in the trunk which has nothing to do with wanting to blow something up.

Context aside, what other religion actually tells their followers to kill?

[Tellyn]

Context aside, what other religion actually tells their followers to kill?

Exactly. The Al Qaeda and all other terrorist cells use their religion as an excuse to commit terrible crimes.

[BlueStar]

Context aside, what other religion actually tells their followers to kill?
Well the Bible's not over friendly to the non-believers and people who are deemed to have 'insulted' the religion

“He who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.” (Lev. 24:16)

Ouch.

[Daft]

Hmmm...there were two cars...With the amount of CCTV cameras in London if they haven't caught the drivers on camera I will be shocked.

[BlueStar]

Maybe they were militant William Blake fans, hell bent on fulfilling the prophecies foretold in the scriptures?

[McMad]

It's rediculous if people still take every word of these holy books literally in modern times, these books were written in a world completely different to ours and therefore not all their teachings should not be applied to our times.

Considering the fact that the Bible teaches that slavery and rape is acceptable while gays must die shows that these religious texts need updating or removing.

But I have nothing against teachings in religious texts that teaches people to be respectable and honest.

To the people that are anti-Islam fair enough, I can be pretty anti-semetic sometimes, but basing your argument on the fact that this bomb threat looks like the work of Islamic extremists is not evidence enough. Anyone could have done that so save your rants for the next 9/11 or 7/7.

[thirtynine.]

Hmmm...there were two cars...With the amount of CCTV cameras in London if they haven't caught the drivers on camera I will be shocked.
Do you think they payed there congestion charge?

[Platty]

Anyone could have done that so save your rants for the next 9/11 or 7/7.

If it had come off, the 2 cars and their intended targets it could have easily been a major incident like 7/7.

We don't know if Tiger Tiger was actually targetted (I have spent many nights in there myself) or not but there were over 1500 people in the place thursday night so there could have been a lot of casualties.

As for not knowing who it is, im sure they do (simple number plate check, using the cameras to track back where the car came from etc) however it's not very wise releasing names etc to the press untill all areas are covered, links established and arrests taken place.

Do you think they payed there congestion charge?


No because the Congestion charge is only in effect from 7am - 6:30pm on weekdays.

[thirtynine.]

No because the Congestion charge is only in effect from 7am - 6:30pm on weekdays.
What time did it happen?

[Emasher]

heard about this on the radio while i was in my car

[UziT]

It's rediculous if people still take every word of these holy books literally in modern times, these books were written in a world completely different to ours and therefore not all their teachings should not be applied to our times.

Considering the fact that the Bible teaches that slavery and rape is acceptable while gays must die shows that these religious texts need updating or removing.

But I have nothing against teachings in religious texts that teaches people to be respectable and honest.

To the people that are anti-Islam fair enough, I can be pretty anti-semetic sometimes, but basing your argument on the fact that this bomb threat looks like the work of Islamic extremists is not evidence enough. Anyone could have done that so save your rants for the next 9/11 or 7/7.

This man speaks the truth *bows*

Its cowardly to run in with a bomb strapped on to ur chest, swords where used to fight when these books was written

[McMad]

If it had come off, the 2 cars and their intended targets it could have easily been a major incident like 7/7.

Well my point wasn't that loads of people needed to be killed for there to be an argument :heh: , I meant they need to be proven to be attacks carried out by Al Quaeda.

But using 9/11 as an example was a silly thing for me to do considering that I was pretty convinced by Loose Change.

[Twozzok]

Oh god, I know way too many people who think Loose Change is like the bible of what happened on 9/11 >_<

[Oxigen_Waste]

WTF? lol, I misread threat as "thread". Terrorist thread ftw!

[Platty]

What time did it happen?

Early hours of the morning around 2am I do believe.

[rokhed00]

Well the Bible's not over friendly to the non-believers and people who are deemed to have 'insulted' the religion

“He who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.” (Lev. 24:16)

Ouch.

And who practices old testament these days, apart from jews?
They get enough shit as it is without going all zealot on people.

[BlueStar]

And who practices old testament these days, apart from jews?

I thought you said context aside.

[Stefkov]

Well the Bible's not over friendly to the non-believers and people who are deemed to have 'insulted' the religion

“He who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.” (Lev. 24:16)

Ouch.
Don't know why I thought of this but I remembered something How many people god killed (http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html)
Just something random I found. Satan killed 10 people from what I remember aswell.
This has no relevance to anything, I apologise.

[BlueStar]

Don't know why I thought of this but I remembered something How many people god killed (http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html)
Just something random I found. Satan killed 10 people from what I remember aswell.
This has no relevance to anything, I apologise.

God's got much better PR people though, look at how him massacring thousands upon thousands of people, innocents and sinners alike, with a holy flood got turned into a cute children's story about animals and rainbows.

[rokhed00]

I thought you said context aside.

Context in which it was written.

[BlueStar]

Context in which it was written.
Well what's the difference in Muslims saying about things when when translated and presented on their own seem to promote the slaughtering of unbelievers "Oh, well you're not supposed to do that any more, that bit doesn't count nowadays" or whatever? :blank:

Anyway, someone must be getting a right bollocking from Mujhadeen Command at the moment, getting a parking ticket on your car bomb and having it towed away, did they send the Muslim version of Mr Bean?

[Demuwan]

This thread should be locked.

I agree, its going nowhere fast.

[The fish]

Dragging this thread slightly back on topic, I have a suspicion is was an very anti-gay rights group, most likely to be Christian, or, as some have already said, Muslim, fundamentalists.

The reason I say this is that there was to be a gay pride parade tomorrow in Haymarket. I am by no means convinced it was just a coincidence.

However, the attack could have just been aimed at the nightclub.

Context aside, what other religion actually tells their followers to kill?

Although it does not actually directly instruct the killing of non-believers, the bible implies, suggests, or states that it is a virtuous and blessed thing to do so on more occasions than I can be bothered to count considering its just gone midnight.

You'd better add Judaism and Christianity to your list.

[Haver]

I would recommend anyone serious about the topic Christopher Hitchens' 'god Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (US) /The Case Against Religion (UK)', which is available in hardback from Amazon and other places. It is quite inexpensive.

It's rediculous if people still take every word of these holy books literally in modern times, these books were written in a world completely different to ours and therefore not all their teachings should not be applied to our times.

Well, unfortunately they do, and the result is jihadism and the Hamas government in Palestine and the late Jerry Falwell and the 700 Club and fundamentalist New York Jews who circumcise their young, physically suck off the bloody foreskin and transmit STIs as they do it.

But I have nothing against teachings in religious texts that teaches people to be respectable and honest.

I would recommend Christopher Hitchens' book on this. He can counter this far better than I can.

To the people that are anti-Islam fair enough, I can be pretty anti-semetic sometimes, but basing your argument on the fact that this bomb threat looks like the work of Islamic extremists is not evidence enough.

It is not reasonable to suggest that it is however, or at least far more probable that is, on account of 1) the likelihood of a jihadist attack, which is far greater than any other and 2) the analysis of counter-terrorism experts on the bomb equipment

[AshMat]

I swear something funny's going on here. I can't find the original BBC artical from yesturday morning at all, (well i couldn't find it yetsurday after school either). It had a funny quote in that said "All options are open right now, including the irish", but i cannot find that anywhere, i think it's been erplaced (the article).
Also, this new bomb has sprung up out of nowhere?
I don't usually believe in conspiracies like this usually but this time i'm making it up, it just doesn't seem right to me.

*waits for everyone to call me crazy*

[Haver]

Well,

1) The second car had been towed to Park Lane, so the police came upon it later. I think your argument here is with linear time.

2) There are a number of reasons why the BBC would rewrite their article. Either a) the information is redundant b) the information isn't necessary or c) the information isn't true.