For All The Daft Punk Fans...

[hobbzinio]

Kanye West has just released the video to his new single 'Stronger' off the new album Graduation. The song samples the Daft Punk song - Harder, better, faster, stronger. Daft Punk are in the video and make a cameo showing their creative support to Kanye, it was shot in Tokyo.

The song imo is a really good use of the sample and is catchy as fuck. I love the way the video buys into Daft Punks futuristic themes and the many references to Akira are classy.

Just wondering what the Daft Punk fans think about this track and the creativity of the video. Do you like the fact the musical genres have crossed over and what not? Everyone else give their opinions too on the clip and song, Im personally really excited by it:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dwic_kanye-west-stronger

[Daft]

Its not bad...just not great.

I quite like Kanye West but 'H,B,F,S,' is kinda dulled in this song.

As you can see Daft Punk are at their best when they are mixing their own stuff live...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XC515bethg&mode=related&search=

[DomJcg]

never a great fan of techno beats, but its alright

[Eenuh]

"Harder, better, faster, stronger" sounds so much more powerful than it does in this version. Not a fan of Kanye West, but it's nice to see he recognizes good music (Daft Punk!).

Now I feel like listening to the Daft Punk album. =D

[Daft]

Now I feel like listening to the Daft Punk album. =D

Ditto!! :heh:

Ok, this probably won't make sense...Its a good Kanye West song, its not a good Daft Punk song...imo.

And the video is pretty cool.

[thirtynine.]

Its meh. Kanye never struck me as a particularly good rapper his a good producer but thats it. Its interesting at best but not even that really.

[Jimmy3000]

er its ok i suppose =/ All kanye's beats come from samples and this isnt exactly he best. Daft punk live when they mix there own stuff as someone earlier said is awesome, saw them at global gathering last year, were great!

[Jordan]

Great, another rapper ruining a great song...

[BlueStar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw

:D :D :D

So much win.

Been listening to Justice's album recently, on the same label as Daft Punk and I'd recommend it to fans of DP (Daft Punk, not Double Penetration)

[uəʌəsʎɐɾ]

any relevance? (http://www.happyfantasyland.com/blog/post/694)

[hobbzinio]

Great, another rapper ruining a great song...

Your just ignorant to the genre.

And kanyes beats are much more versatile then samples Jimmy. He's Produced plenty more different sorta beats.

[Jordan]

Your just ignorant to the genre.

And kanyes beats are much more versatile then samples Jimmy. He's Produced plenty more different sorta beats.

Trying to find a rap song without the words: 'ho', 'ride', 'momma', 'guns', 'nigga' and 'bling' is like trying to find a pop song without mentioning love.

That and the repeated beats do my head in.

Sorry, i just really don't understand the appeal.

[Shino]

I quite like the background remix, but his voice and the rap rhythm doesn't fit perfectly, it has some good parts. The same goes for the the clip, the cg parts are cool and so are the Akira references, but the rapper attitude kinda ruins it.

[hobbzinio]

Trying to find a rap song without the words: 'ho', 'ride', 'momma', 'guns', 'nigga' and 'bling' is like trying to find a pop song without mentioning love.

That and the repeated beats do my head in.

Sorry, i just really don't understand the appeal.

Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.

If you looked more deeply into the genre, you would see that it has much more depth then you would think. So much quality music.

Dont let the garbage hip hop you hear on the radios with the bollocks content you mentioned, corrupt your opinion of the genre as a whole. As you only end up looking silly

[Jordan]

Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.


I say sorry for not liking it, then get called that?
Great, yeah thanks.

[KKOB]

Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.

If you looked more deeply into the genre, you would see that it has much more depth then you would think. So much quality music.

Dont let the garbage hip hop you hear on the radios with the bollocks content you mentioned, corrupt your opinion of the genre as a whole. As you only end up looking silly

OMFG!!!

If ANYONE criticizes or expresses why they don't think rap music is the most intellectually stimulating music genre and is in fact utter toss-you call them an ignorant idiot *see old music thread*

Change the record :heh:

YOU are the only fella looking silly on here dude.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Lol, Kanye sucks so bad. :D

[hobbzinio]

Jordan:

You basically catergorized a whole genre as something, despite having no real knowledge on that genre.

When doing such a thing, to real fans of hip hop you are asking to get fuckin flamed tbh.

I could quite easily sit here and catergorize the genre of rock music, based on the bullshit that is played on the radio. But im smarter then that and realise that if you look past the current bullshit mainstream state, their is moutains of quality music.

You sould use the same attitude.

And Takeo you are on my nuts so badly its ridiculous. Fact is, I spoke the sense here. Catergorizing something you have no real knowledge on, is a stupid ass thing to do. Im not saying people have to worship hip hop music, I dont myself. But it would help if they didnt stereotype it so badly. It is Like me saying France is full of people who smell of onions and live in the eiffel tour, same ignorant attitude just used towards a music genre.

[Daft]

If your are that smart you should have just replied to his comment instead of just (over)reacting...

[hobbzinio]

Seperate the "Idiot" insult and you have 100% sense being spoken.

That really is the only reason for an argument you guys can hold on me here. But its cool.

[KKOB]

hobKNOB- how do you know that Jordan has no knowledge of rap music, that he hasn't heard as many different rap artists that you have? if anyone disagrees with you about fucking music you call them ignorant-CHANGE THE RECORD!!!

you assume soooooo much i find i ridiculous. And as Daft says, you think your smart . . . yeah well, not so much.

[Jordan]

Alright Takeo, lets not make this personal.
For the record, i've heard a 'reasonable' amount of rap music. It did nothing for me.

Look, we all have strong opinions, but lets keep this civil or i'll go bad-ass-min, which is something i'd rather not do.

[hobbzinio]

hobKNOB- how do you know that Jordan has no knowledge of rap music, that he hasn't heard as many different rap artists that you have? if anyone disagrees with you about fucking music you call them ignorant-CHANGE THE RECORD!!!

you assume soooooo much i find i ridiculous. And as Daft says, you think your smart . . . yeah well, not so much.

Somebody with down syndrome could work out he has no real knowledge of the genre. He used the most blatant stereotype around and catergorized the overall content of the genre, as the perception modern mainstream hip hop has amongst opposers e.g. about bitches, hoes and niggaz.

Anybody with an extensive knowledge of the genre, would of known not to have said such bollocks as they would of known there is more to Hip Hop then that.

God, open your eyes.

and Jordan you need to learn that you cant just use your admin status to threaten people when they throw you up on something silly you have said. Looks pathetic man, thought you were bigger then that.

[KKOB]

God, open your eyes.

I will, when you shut your ignorant gob :heh:

sleep time.

last comment- the song's not bad :)

[hobbzinio]

Go to bed man ^ The fact you are on my nuts so badly, just makes you look even more pathetic. You are persuing your silly little vendetta and getting blinded in the process to the facts I have written about.

By the way if you are going to have a hissy fit about me calling somebody an idiot, then practise what you preach. As using such childhood insults as shut your gob and "hob knob", really makes you look like a hypocrite.

Night, Night

[weeyellowbloke]

Hmmm, I feel a bit wrong for this, but I'm a bit with the Hobbz on this one. You can't just pass of an entire genre based upon stuff like Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent, who granted do pretty much bang on about ho's, pimps and rides. However there is a hell of a lot below the surface if you look for it. True it isn't to everyones taste though, mainly because a lot of the focus is on the lyrical content and rhythm of the vocals rather than musical versatility, although some slick beats always do help.

Anyway on topic, it's an alright track, but I can't help but feel that Kanye has perhaps been a bit lazy on the production and not really given it his all. Just feel something is missing. Still not bad, just not one of his best.

[hobbzinio]

Finally, somebody with some sense.

There is so much more to the genre, then the bullshit you hear on the radio and see on your tv set's from the likes of Mr. 50 cent.

Thats why such ignorant comments from Jordan, piss me off so much.

Thats all really.

[Jordan]

To be honest Hobb, thats not what i was going for.
I use my powers to cool a thread down, rather than threatening like you said.

I don't really enjoy having insults thrown my way however, but i'll let it slide this time.

[hobbzinio]

Surely you can see why I called you an idiot though right?

You did say something pretty damn idiotic. Im interested to know what this "reasonable" amount of hip hop you listened too included. And be honest, cos searching for something on google is pretty gay.

[KKOB]

Point of this thread isn't to debate rap music and it's culture etc etc but to talk about the sampling of Daft Punk on Kanye Wests new single.

Try and bring it back on track maybe?

[Daft]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw

:D :D :D

So much win.

Been listening to Justice's album recently, on the same label as Daft Punk and I'd recommend it to fans of DP (Daft Punk, not Double Penetration)

Wow, Justice rock! Awesome recommendation!! :bowdown:

Has anyone listened to Phoenix?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(band)
Their album 'United' is just awesome!

[KKOB]

Wow, Justice rock! Awesome recommendation!! :bowdown:

Haa anyone listened to Phoenix?

I have!!! :heh: : peace: lol

[hobbzinio]

Point of this thread isn't to debate rap music and it's culture etc etc but to talk about the sampling of Daft Punk on Kanye Wests new single.

Try and bring it back on track maybe?

It was going along fine until somebody put it off topic, I think your find ;)

But yeah I love this track, always been a fan of Kanye though.

[harribo]

Trying to find a rap song without the words: 'ho', 'ride', 'momma', 'guns', 'nigga' and 'bling' is like trying to find a pop song without mentioning love.

That and the repeated beats do my head in.

Sorry, i just really don't understand the appeal.

Do you know what you should listen to some Plan B The only mention of hos etc in his are said sarcastically and he doesn't really use repeated beats.

[Daft]

I have!!! :heh: : peace: lol

I had an inkling you might of! :wink:

[KKOB]

It was going along fine until somebody put it off topic, I think your find ;)

But yeah I love this track, always been a fan of Kanye though.

Me too, some rap artists just appeal to me. Him and eminem are the only rap artists i have bothered to buy the albums of i think . . . 50 cents music does fuck all for me, snoop dogg does make me laugh and occasionally does something cool.

This sleep thing isn't doing well-deathnote is keeping me awake-damn anime addiction!

[hobbzinio]

That is still a VERY mainstream based taste though man, making your liking of the genre a bit restricted. Even so, soon I am going to make a thread - giving you lot some more knowledge on the origins of hip hop, its musical roots + where to find the classy stuff and hopefully getting alot of you out of the "its all crap" box.

When I make the thread, is another story. Im in the "lazy" box

[KKOB]

That is still a VERY mainstream based taste though man, making your liking of the genre a bit restricted. Even so, soon I am going to make a thread - giving you lot some more knowledge on the origins of hip hop, its musical roots + where to find the classy stuff and hopefully getting alot of you out of the "its all crap" box.

When I make the thread, is another story. Im in the "lazy" box

i'll be sure to kill myself when such an event occurs, this may spur you into action . . .

it IS wrong to say that all of something is crap, but 80% of the stuff is shite.

Soooo bored of talking like this, i don't intend to comment on anything fucking rap or hip-hop related ever, for fear of being forced to lower myself to having to type so much over something i care little about.

[hobbzinio]

ROFL that is the last time I ever try to lower myself to being cool with you.

Your previous posts say it all really, I no longer need to talk to you about this subject because your ill advised.

Please stop sending me silly pms too.

[Shino]

Can you please just express yourself without sounding so offensive? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with you, but there's other ways of getting your point across.

[hobbzinio]

Single of the year.

[mariosmentor]

I think I'll just continue loving Daft Punk without having to listen to Kayne West garbage.

Hob, if Kayne West was sampled in Paris Hilton's new single would you appreciate it?

[hobbzinio]

I dont really get your point?

Paris Hilton is garbage in everything she does, bar sucking dick and it doesnt even look like she is that good at doing that.

Kanye West is a brilliant soulful producer across many genres, 1 of the only commercial rap artists still making good commercial hip hop and has a refreshing personality.

I take it you dont go clubbin much? Cos when this track plays it is magic. The fact Daft Punk found the sample in good taste says it all.

[RagDoll]

I really like the Kanye West/Daft Punk song, I also really like Daft Punk and Kanye West by themselves. But then I also loved Paris Hilton's album so...

[theguyfromspark]

Paris Hilton is garbage in everything she does, bar sucking dick and it doesnt even look like she is that good at doing that.


Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.

If you looked more deeply into Paris' life, you would see that she has much more depth then you would think. So much quality entertainment.

Don#t let the garbage porn you get in on the internet with the bollocks content you mentioned, corrupt your opinion of the woman as a whole. As you only end up looking silly.


...or something like that. :heh:

[hobbzinio]

If degrading an Oxygen robber like Paris Hilton makes me an ignorant idiot in your eyes, I will gladly take the title :)

[theguyfromspark]

Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.

If you looked more deeply into the genre, you would see that it has much more depth then you would think. So much quality music.

Dont let the garbage hip hop you hear on the radios with the bollocks content you mentioned, corrupt your opinion of the genre as a whole. As you only end up looking silly

Comments like this prove my suggestion that your an ignorant idiot.

If you looked more deeply into Paris' life, you would see that she has much more depth then you would think. So much quality entertainment.

Dont let the garbage porn you get in on the internet with the bollocks content you mentioned, corrupt your opinion of the woman as a whole. As you only end up looking silly.


...or something like that. :heh:

Just pointing out your hypocrisy, that's all.

[hobbzinio]

I find being ignorant to a whole culture and genre of music alot different to disliking Paris Hilton, a disgusting human being who is famous cos of her parents money. Infact the comparison is pretty insulting and retarded.

So what quality entertainment has Paris given the world exactly?

(I know your trynna wind us up, but its funny discussing it regardless :D)

[Dyson]

Hmm, Hobb, I look forward to seeing such a thread. I'm not big on my rap music, or hi[-hop, or whatever it is, but a thread like the one you described might just encourage me (and others) to try it out.

[theguyfromspark]

I find being ignorant to a whole culture and genre of music alot different to disliking Paris Hilton, a disgusting human being who is famous cos of her parents money. Infact the comparison is pretty insulting and retarded.

So what quality entertainment has Paris given the world exactly?

(I know your trynna wind us up, but its funny discussing it regardless :D)

Please stop throwing insults around at people you don't know.
What I was trying to point out is that you jump down people's throats for saying something you like is rubbish, claiming that no one should think it is rubbish if they knew more about it, not just the popular media-skewed version. Then you say something else is absolute rubbish, based on what you've seen oh it via the media-skewed version. Do you see the hypocracy? Please let others have their opinions without hurling insults at them if they happen to differ from you view of the world.

[hobbzinio]

Oh you were being serious, ROFL!!! I thought you were havin a laugh with me, wow. I am one of the least hypocritical people here you will find when it comes to staying true to what I believe.

I dont see how somebody comparing Paris Hilton to Kanye West -

A. Makes Sense
or
B. Is relevant

Then you compare ignorance to a culture and music genre to being ignorant to an "IT' girl, I mean come on you are clutching to straws.

Please explain to me how Paris Hilton is talented? I've analyzed the girl in every single way and come to the same conclusion, she is a digusting human being. Saying rap is all about hoes and guns is not somebody who has properly anaylazed anything.

A genre and culture has a bit more depth to it then Paris Hilton.

[mariosmentor]

I wasn't talking about a culture, I was talking about Kayne West. I don't like him and I don't like Paris Hilton, but you're insulting of Paris Hilton is not unlike peoples comments on Kayne West.

So basically if something you like is deemed 'trash' by others then it is unacceptable but something you think is trash is accurate. You don't see a contradiction in there?

[hobbzinio]

NO people can have their opinions on Kanye or Hip hop, but the minute somebody says -

"Rap is just hoes and guns" and it becomes obvious they have not heard anything decent from the genre or know nothing of its origin it is stupidly ignorant. Like me saying Rock Music is all about love songs after hearing a Blink 182 track. Its catergorizing an entire genre, based on a small soundbite you have digested.

Paris Hilton is somebody who I do not rate in any way. Ive seen her acting (House of Wax) she sucked, I've heard her songs (terrible), I've seen her publicity stunts (Poor) and I have seen her sex tapes (she sucked - literally and metaphorically). I dont rate her in any way or form. Where is the ignorance?

How this thread got to comparing Paris Hilton to Hip Hop music I will never know lol

[Dyson]

Also, cocks.

[mariosmentor]

It was to show that one mans shit is another mans chocolate pudding.
Kayne West is my shit and Daft Punk my chocolate pudding.

And no one likes shit mixed with chocolate pudding.

[Dan Dare]

this track kicks ass. Tru fax. Good video, too.

[Ant-Shimmin]

Let's get back on topic

The song isn't really that good....Not sure wether it warranted it's own thread...

[Ellmeister]

How can you say this song isn't that great. I love it :D I love most daft punk related things.

I'm not Kanye West's greatest fan.. hes a bit meh to me. But the mix with daft punk makes it a tune. I can imagine it at clubs being good, (not sandstorm good, but still).

Also I don't like the influence that rap has had on the population, but some of it is great. Plan B @ V FTW!

[Goron_3]

How can you say this song isn't that great. I love it :D I love most daft punk related things.

I'm not Kanye West's greatest fan.. hes a bit meh to me. But the mix with daft punk makes it a tune. I can imagine it at clubs being good, (not sandstorm good, but still).

Also I don't like the influence that rap has had on the population, but some of it is great. Plan B @ V FTW!

You're right, this song is quality. Annoys me how it trails off after the 2nd verse though :(