Conspiracy..?

[Blackfox]

I was browsing around on another forum and came across this site (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_videos.html). Its pretty interesting to read. It has videos and testimonies of people who basically say that the Twin Towers didn't collaspe through the aircarft - they were brought down by a different explosion...

Now, i know its sound a bit wacko-conspiracy theorist, but some of the articles do provide to be compelling reading. And has certainly made me wonder.

While Im on the topic, there is this site (http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm) and this animation (http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf). All seem pretty convincing.

So what do you guys think? Conspiracy wackos, or was 9/11 something fabricated and carried out by the US in order to jusify a war? Opinions please.

[Marshmellow]

i think thier crazy and planes did cause the towers to fall... but of course i didnt read the links

[Raining_again]

ooo thats actually really interesting!

yeah i wondered how it managed to fall perfectly but i think it was on tv that it was designed to fall like that so it didnt take the surrounding buildings with it. i love a good conspiracy tho :heh: :D

[Cube]

Well, they would of had to sneak in explosives to a load of different places (of which they would have to work out exactly), without been noticed. Also making shure that noone noticed them (Public or not).

Also, the buildings had some design flaws, which was the cause of the collapse

The pentagon is a different story tho...

[Ramar]

Not convinced about the World Trade Centres, but after watching the animation of the Pentagon, have different views on the situation. I never did know much about what happened at the Pentagon. I just assumed by the tv and newspaper articles that a plane hit it, the animation leaves me to believe otherwise.

[Platty]

that site's a load of rubbish.

[Jordan]

Conspiracy theories, i ignore most simply because there is other back up evidance as to why its true.

But this guy has some real points, i mean that building shouldn't have fallen so fast. And yeah, have you ever seen such a neat hole in the pentagon? Remember, America is incredibly corrupt in places.

[Mr_Odwin]

Remember, America is incredibly corrupt in places.

It's true! I read it on the internet.

[JonSt]

I like a good conspiracy theory, but even I sturggle to belive that. Although With the pentagon thats a different matter.

[RoadKill]

I've seen videos of these theories ages ago.

[The3rdChildren]

Interesting theories, although I think it's a bit tasteless to doubt what really happened when so many lives were lost.

[|Laguna|]

Gotta love conspiracy. Oh and the mysertys behind WHY 9/11?

Mohammed's birth is celebrated on the 11th day of the 9th month

September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.

119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11.

Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

The number of stories is 110 (2x) 110 - 110
Remember that the zero "0" is not a number, so we have 11:11

The number of Tower windows = 21,800 2+1+8+0+0 = 11

The third building #7 to fall had 47 stories = 4+7=11

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11

American Airlines number1-800-245-0999

1+8+0+0+2+4+5+0+9+9+9=47 = 11

State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union


etc

[Charlie]

I heard about the missile theory a couple of years ago and I believe it. A 757 would've made a much bigger hole in the Pentagon.

[Offerman]

I don't believe any of these theorys. I'm not surprised the buildings collapsed so soon, infact I'm surprised they lasted that long.

When your talking of a Boeing 757 that weights between 100 to 125 Metric Tonnes, depending on its load and the fact its doing about 180-200 MPH; considering it had just lost alot of height. Then you are talking about such a force it takes some serious maths to even comprehend it. Seriously, very few structures that man could build could withstand a plane hitting it - infact I think it will take a very long time before man could build something that could withstand this.

[Grebe]

So Blackfox, you're for the war, yet you condemn the twin towers attack?


Racist

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

I dont think president Bush, or the US government, would have dared to commit such a conspiracy. I find it highly unlikely.

[mario114]

It's a load of rubbish, who could actually belive that stuff.

[Blackfox]

So Blackfox, you're for the war, yet you condemn the twin towers attack?


Racist

Not really.

I was for the war but now i belive it was a whole waste of time. As for the towers i have mixed feelings. I sympathise with the families to those who were lost, yet find it ironic that companies based in those towers helped cause yet more poverty in the third world. (World Bank, IMF etc)

Im still open minded about the towers, but the Pentagon one is just too patchy to believe that terrorists crashed into it.

[Ramar]

So Blackfox, you're for the war, yet you condemn the twin towers attack?


Racist

Racist.. wtf.. how on earth does that make him racist?..

[Bowser57]

Racist.. wtf.. how on earth does that make him racist?..


For you to even say such a thing you're clearly a racist yourself.

[Charlie]

It's a load of rubbish, who could actually belive that stuff.

Me............. (15)

[Raining_again]

its not like they are ...."ZOMG so planned they all out to get us oh noess!11!!!!!" they actually made quite a well thought out theory IMO, they gave plenty of reasoning and vids/reports etc. i dont know whether to believe it or not, i think i might sit on the fence....for now.

[Grebe]

Not really.

I was for the war but now i belive it was a whole waste of time. As for the towers i have mixed feelings. I sympathise with the families to those who were lost, yet find it ironic that companies based in those towers helped cause yet more poverty in the third world. (World Bank, IMF etc)

Im still open minded about the towers, but the Pentagon one is just too patchy to believe that terrorists crashed into it.


'Fcuk-ing' Racist

[blumeanie.]

911 was a very tragic event and i have read tons of stuff that claims to expose a hidden agenda of sorts. The truth about 911 is there to find if you look wisely, i suggest you should find what you can about "project for the new american century" or read a quality book entitled "the new pearl harbor" by david ray griffin. Its a normal rule of thumb that anyone who gets close to the truth on 911 is automatically labeled a kook or a conspiracy theorist or (convieniantly now) unpatriotic . The book i mentioned does not deal in wild imaginings , it deals in hard fact. I know that hard facts can have the power to disturb people who enjoy a cosy world view but i would encourage you all to read it and realise that managing your own enemy to get what you desire is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

[#1cubeplayer]

Before saying that the conspiracy is a load of rubbish, look into the overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the conspiracy theory. I suggest watching this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8226936999787148598&q=twin+towers it's 40 minutes long but well worth it.

[Strider]

The Aliens did it!

[Bowser57]

Before saying that the conspiracy is a load of rubbish, look into the overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the conspiracy theory.

If the evidence was "overwhelming" surely everyone would have been overwhelmed by it and it'd be a conspiracy fact, not theory.

[old_gregg]

My theory is that this was done by George Bush and Blair to allow the Two nations declare their 'War on terror' which allowed them to invade oil rich countries such as afghanistan and Iraq, and maintain ther place as world leaders. Don't forget that thses to Nations are the former and current World powers and are facing a big threat over world dominance from countries such as China. They have to do something to counter this threat and what could be easier than invading and taking over small shity countreis with miltary that pales incomparision but at the same time have lots of essential resoureces such as oil.
Its the same thing with the London Bombings. That was mearly a cover up and was designed as an excuse for us still being in Iraq. And don't give me all that bull-shit about innoocent pepole being killed, because do you really beleive Blair, or any other POlitician or world leader, gives a flying fuck about the us the "peasents" of society. As long as they are in power and at the top of the world "tree" thats all that they care aboutand everyone else is just a means to an end to get them and to keep them there.

[JonSt]

My theory is that this was done by George Bush and Blair to allow the Two nations declare their 'War on terror' which allowed them to invade oil rich countries such as afghanistan and Iraq, and maintain ther place as world leaders. Don't forget that thses to Nations are the former and current World powers and are facing a big threat over world dominance from countries such as China. They have to do something to counter this threat and what could be easier than invading and taking over small shity countreis with miltary that pales incomparision but at the same time have lots of essential resoureces such as oil.
Its the same thing with the London Bombings. That was mearly a cover up and was designed as an excuse for us still being in Iraq. And don't give me all that bull-shit about innoocent pepole being killed, because do you really beleive Blair, or any other POlitician or world leader, gives a flying fuck about the us the "peasents" of society. As long as they are in power and at the top of the world "tree" thats all that they care aboutand everyone else is just a means to an end to get them and to keep them there.


As much as you state some good points there, i find it mighty hard to belive.

[Cubechris]

My theory is that this was done by George Bush and Blair to allow the Two nations declare their 'War on terror' which allowed them to invade oil rich countries such as afghanistan and Iraq, and maintain ther place as world leaders.

:hmm: ok........

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Yes I do think they would give a fuck, because someone would have told the press. And then Bush and Blair would be hanged.

Hmm, the conspircasy theory sounds less sucky now.

[GoonFace]

I've seen these conspiracy theories before, and they raise some interesting points.

[weeyellowbloke]

Th twin towers theory I find a bit hard to believe, but the Pentagon one does actually make a bit sense. A huge great plane would leave a hell of a mess, not a single neat hole. The only question it leaves for me is why go to the bother of creating another disaster at the pentagon?

[harribo]

Yet to look at the twin towers one yet but I think the pentagon one is a very believable theory as it is backed up by plenty of evidence. But the vid did go a bit too fast at points.

[blumeanie.]

What is it that makes people think that the press/media are somehow immune and able to freely tell any sensetive story they like?. In the uk there is a gagging order called a D.NOTICE (defence) that stops any uncomfortable or damaging news from ever reaching the public eye under the grounds of national security. Ever since 911 this notice has been served on a number of publications that seemed to have strayed from the "official account" of the story. The idea that we enjoy a free press in the west is a total myth and quickly falls apart under careful scrutiny.

[Wesley]

Interesting read.

But I do not believe.