If You Were Nintendo How Would You Improve The Wii?

[ZeldaFreak]

I know a few of us on here don't like the wii. What of lack of actual good game titles. So heres my thought if you were Nintendo what would you do instead?

[Tyson]

Take a hint m8.

[Hero-of-Time]

Ok, instead of closing the topic I have renamed it. Hopefully it will offer a good convo rather than a bashing session.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Ok, instead of closing the topic I have renamed it. Hopefully it will offer a good convo rather than a bashing session.

Good call. We'll see how this pans out.

[Tyson]

I'd do more to encourage third parties to jump on the bandwagon. For example, help new developers optimise the Wii controls, or help them bring out the graphical potential of the Wii.

[Retro_Link]

This is a pointless thread!
I know exactly what certain people want to be said:

- I would have made the graphics better
- I would have given it a good online service
- I would give it a dvd
- I would make it support HD
- etc...

This is just a way of approaching the 'Wii is not good enough' issue some people have, but from a different angle!
But to answer the question;

- I think Nintendo really should have got online sorted from the word go! It's not that important to me, but there you go!

[AshMat]

Decent, or some online for a start. Trading Miis does not count!

[That Guy]

I know a few of us on here don't like the wii. What of lack of actual good game titles. So heres my thought if you were Nintendo what would you do instead?

LMAO you are the most laughable forum member I've ever seen.

I think the thing Nintendo need is maybe one or 2 of the end of year releases a bit closer to the beginning of the year. And of course setting up online play.

Although this 'lack of games' thing is actually quite annoying, because we're starting to see some decent 3rd party games now (SSX, Mortal Kombat, Eledees, Sonic, Tiger Woods etc.) and it always seems to me like these are dismissed, as if it's a Nintendo console so they don't count as good games. 360 wouldn't be half the console without the 3rd party games, no to mention the PS3.

Course ZeldaFreak wont care because he's already made up his mind on everything.

[SimonM7]

For starters I'd line up and shoot some of its supposed "fans". :)

[Zell]

By releasing SSBB.

[Eddage]

What was it called before?

Also you should have renamed it to "I lick balls (particularly Sony's and Microsoft's)" that seems to be on par with Zelda Freaks maturity...

Spose I better say something on topic

Personally I'm happy with the way this are turning out with the Wii at the moment! Sure after the release games there hasn't been much for a couple of months (maybe Wario Ware but that doesn't interest me much), but with Excite Truck, Sonic and SSX on the horizon its starting to get better in the games department. There have certainly been bigger droughts after a consoles launch!

I suppose, for me, the best improvement could come in the Virtual Console. At the moment I think the games are a little to pricey (although I am still buying some so maybe they got it right!), for what is essentially an exact copy of the game that was released 10/15/20 years ago! Maybe a touch up on the graphics, particularly NES and SNES games and the ability to save on games that previously didn't allow it (Super Mario World springs to mind) would make them seem more worthwhile and would mean I buy even more. Although to be honest I'll just be happy when they finally get their arses in gear and release A Link To The Past in Europe!

Obviously nothings perfect and I'm sure we would all love for a new epic 50+ hour game every 2 weeks, but lets face it, thats ridiculously unrealistic and so I am quite content with the way things are shaping up at the moment!

[ZeldaFreak]

If I was Nintendo I would of invested in researching technology like the cell - maybe not to the extent like the cell but something comparable to it.

And I would of created a controller similiar to 360 - I find that to be the best pad for gaming needs.

Oh yes and maybe lower licensing fees by nintendo. Wouldn't of hurt either.

[Goron_3]

By releasing SSBB.

I second that. And make it good!

[Eddage]

So if you were Nintendo then you would have done exactly what Sony and Microsoft did?!

Christ, that would've been boring as hell - 3 more or less identical consoles, fun!

(Also, my title suggestion is proving to be true)!

[Dante]

If I was Nintendo I would of invested in researching technology like the cell - maybe not to the extent like the cell but something comparable to it.

And I would of created a controller similiar to 360 - I find that to be the best pad for gaming needs.

Oh yes and maybe lower licensing fees by nintendo. Wouldn't of hurt either.

Nintendo did lower licensing fees but I can see that ghaphics are more important to you than gameplay.

[ZeldaFreak]

Well why can't we have both

[4q2]

-More games. (I dont have time to play them, but what the hell, its an improvement)

-Better Graphics. (I dont have an issue with the graphics, but its another improvement)

-HD Support. (Why not ?)

-DVD and CD Support (Saves Me getting off my arse and using my Hi spec Hifi components).

-Telepathic sensor (Why waste time moving when you can just think about it ?)

-Online Pizza delivery service/channel. (Never a bad idea)

-Redesigned Wii compatible R.O.B. with Bartending skills. (To attract a good quantity of mature gamers)

[raven_blade2006]

I have a few ideas:
- Original games to download should have been here at launch. It would have perfectly helped to support the VC console. Even the PS3 has original games coming soon....
- Online service should have been here from launch as well with decent features included. No need to go into detail, you know what I want from it.
- Even more effort to court 3rd party developers should be taken. Make it clear to them that the Wii game library must have a balance of titles for all types of gamers.

[BlueStar]

Turning the Wii into the 360 wouldn't improve it, it would destroy it. If you want it to be a 360, why not just buy a 360 and stop crying about it?

I'd say more original games (from all companies) suited to it and less third party tat like Splinter Cell and Hitman being shoehorned onto it, games which are more suited to the other two consoles. This is what made the DS good, games which aren't the standard FIFA, Tomb Radier, GT fare you can get anywhere.

[Hellfire]

-Microphone in the Wiimote
-Themes for the main screen (still possible)

And probably nothing else. Of course you can say "I want HD". OK, cool, so you want the console to cost an extra 200$? Nice. Better Graphics? That's up to the the devs and the cost is also related? More games? The console is like 2 months old, wait a while won't you?

[Fierce_LiNk]

I think they really struck gold when they attempted to do something different. There's been a lot of posts here where people have been saying "I'm getting a Wii now, but in a few years time I may get a PS3/XBOX360."

To me, it's like they're choosing between one of the other systems, like one will suffice. Honestly, I do think that the competitors are perhaps a bit too similar, and it's quite refreshing to see Nintendo playing on that. "we're different."

I'd like them to play on this some more. The Mii channels, for a start, a nice little touch. There seems to be a gap in release dates for titles, and this is where they need third party support.

Imo, the PS2-to-Wii ports are actually helping a great deal. Many developers are choosing to put their games on the PS2 rather than the PS3, so the fact that some of these games are then getting ported to the Wii helps a lot. Not only that, but we need third parties to create nice original titles. We need them to take a gamble, too.

[christophicus]

nah I think getting AS MANY third party games as possible should be a priority, As should getting online gaming up and running, Its beginning to worry me taht its taking so long, I mean look what happened to the DS , it was a while before and online games came out , and look now, how many are there?? 4 it think ,that is quite frankly absolutely pathetic.

[blender]

Better games. For a system relying on gameplay I'm not impressed by the overall quality. PS3 seems to have better games if you look at metacritic. I know there are plenty of games ready but they seem to be controlling their release - business reasons no doubt.

I would also do deals with media companies like Sky. The wii would make a very nice set top box with its wavey remote and all. Maybe just a broadband tv or maybe a satelite extension.

Why cant we have a purple wii. Purple is such an awsome colour for a console!!

[Daft]

Steal the gamerpoint idea from Xbox Live...it actually makes me go back and play games again, which is something I rarely used to do!

Plus way more games coming out more regularly with less rejection for Europe! At the moment I have a game I want to buy every month for my 360...now I just need to get some money!

More to do with Nintendo...Tell developers (Capcom) to 'shuv it hard' when making lame ass comment about the Wii being kiddy! The Wii is for everyone!

[Cube]

- Cheaper VC titles


And thats it.

[christophicus]

^^ yeah have to agree there they seem way too expensive.

[Letty]

Id have made an extra cable or something, so that when the wireless fucks up, you can still play it.

[That Guy]

If I was Nintendo I would of invested in researching technology like the cell - maybe not to the extent like the cell but something comparable to it.

And I would of created a controller similiar to 360 - I find that to be the best pad for gaming needs.

Oh yes and maybe lower licensing fees by nintendo. Wouldn't of hurt either.

No wonder you have a nasty taste in your mouth with your tongue so far up Sonys ass.

^^ yeah have to agree there they seem way too expensive.

I agree there. Or at least make some games better than the original release to make it worth it.

[ZeldaFreak]

I think the whole lets create a new controller. Is like saying lets reinvent the wheel for reinventing sake.

If the old method worked then theirs no reason to change it.

[Retro_Link]

I think the whole lets create a new controller. Is like saying lets reinvent the wheel for reinventing sake.

If the old method worked then theirs no reason to change it.Yeah there is! to go with the new revolutionary system! and it make it more user friendly!

If everyone thought like you we'd get nowhere!

- hmm... this D-Pad works fine for controlling games, lets not bother creating an analogue stick!

- hmm... this horse and cart gets me from A to B, sod the Car!

[BlueStar]

Yeah, stupid Sony bringing out the dual shock. In fact stupid Sony for making the PS3 when the PS2 worked.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I think the whole lets create a new controller. Is like saying lets reinvent the wheel for reinventing sake.

If the old method worked then theirs no reason to change it.

Define what you mean by "worked"?

If we didn't change the controller, we'd still have a classic joystiq, or a NES pad. It's always been changing. Even the wheel has been changing. Tyres, for example. It becomes improved.

The controller is different to past controllers, but it is still a controller. A television remote is also a controller, as it lets you control something, in that case, what you want to watch. The 'shape' of the Wiimote is different to past 'videogame' controllers, but so is the 360 to the Xbox, so is the N64 and GC pads.

It's always changing. Infact, the only ones who haven't really changed the controller all that much have been Sony. It's a more "under the bonnet" thing rather than a visual change. Does it work? Hmm, it's debateable.

[Herr Dark Wolf]

I would have got development kits out faster.

[ZeldaFreak]

Define what you mean by "worked"?

If we didn't change the controller, we'd still have a classic joystiq, or a NES pad. It's always been changing. Even the wheel has been changing. Tyres, for example. It becomes improved.

The controller is different to past controllers, but it is still a controller. A television remote is also a controller, as it lets you control something, in that case, what you want to watch. The 'shape' of the Wiimote is different to past 'videogame' controllers, but so is the 360 to the Xbox, so is the N64 and GC pads.

It's always changing. Infact, the only ones who haven't really changed the controller all that much have been Sony. It's a more "under the bonnet" thing rather than a visual change. Does it work? Hmm, it's debateable.

ok maybe I should of defined the term "worked" as in enabling to move an object through a 3D space. Do you understand?

[Kurtle Squad]

- Cheaper VC titles


And thats it.

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[fanman]

ok maybe I should of defined the term "worked" as in enabling to move an object through a 3D space. Do you understand?

And you can do that with the wii mote/nun chuck.

Everybody's happy.

[Fierce_LiNk]

ok maybe I should of defined the term "worked" as in enabling to move an object through a 3D space. Do you understand?

Vaguely. :heh:
As Fanman says, you can do that with the Wiimote and Nunchuk. It's not as if the games are unplayable. Infact, the whole point of the system is to make things easier, which I do think it is doing.

I just think the change has come at the right time. For Nintendo, especially. I think things were just becoming a bit static.

[4q2]

-Microphone in the Wiimote
-Themes for the main screen (still possible)

And probably nothing else. Of course you can say "I want HD". OK, cool, so you want the console to cost an extra 200$? Nice. Better Graphics? That's up to the the devs and the cost is also related? More games? The console is like 2 months old, wait a while won't you?

Maybe Im being a bit on the paranoid side here, but my post was sarcasm all the way. 3 months is not long enough for any console to have an astounding range of games, especially when it had next to no 3rd party support at the start of its conception (My main gripe with the GC).
As far as I am concerned Im happy, early adoption of a new format always starts slowish...
There is always room for improvement, but Nintendo are doing well for now, who knows what they are up to, they always have something on the back burner (Most likely some plan to counter a certain future PS3 price drop).

There are more positives than negatives this time round:
The release of the console was quicker than ever for the European audience.
The inclusion of Wifi when all other consoles are making you pay through the nose for it.
The inclusion of free online services (Nintendo promised it and they are delivering, maybe slowly, but it is there).
A cheap entry level for all to gaming.
The seemingly daily attraction of new 3rd parties due to innovation.....Lets face it, if they had have followed the home console technology roadmap of the other 2 rivals, they would have been dead before they started.

The technology can do a lot more than it has demonstrated to date....improvement will come with time.

[Shino]

This is a transitory console, first we had the joystick but was ultimately left for the D-pad which appealed to more people, than the analogue stick, and now motion sensing. As the years progress, devs and people will learn how to use it and be familiar with it.

[ZeldaFreak]

Vaguely. :heh:
As Fanman says, you can do that with the Wiimote and Nunchuk. It's not as if the games are unplayable. Infact, the whole point of the system is to make things easier, which I do think it is doing.

I just think the change has come at the right time. For Nintendo, especially. I think things were just becoming a bit static.

But for me Red Steel was almost unplayable.
Zelda yes but everything it did could of been mapped on to a button for the sword. Arrows were yet again annoyingly frustrating to get right just like on the N64 days.
Rayman well what can I say its a minigame collection with some decent minigames and yet some annoying minigames which are far too sensitive for the wii's game controller.

[Stocka]

I want epic games and RPGs. I'm fed up of party game after party game after port after party game.

[Daft]

I would have loved a hard drive so that Nintendo could really expand the downloadable content! It wouldn't need to be a big one, maybe 5 or 10Gb!! I really think it would have been worth the extra money and I doubt it would have made the console cost that much more!

[That Guy]

Arrows are easy to fire in Zelda unless you've got spastic arms. And Red Stell might be unplayable due to a crappy developer.

Metroid 3 could be awesome. But you wont give it time. Wii's crap. But you've got all the time in the world for PS3 to get some games.

[mcj metroid]

a proper FPS game
online
Cheaper VC(these games should be 2 or 3 euro each!)
if a game wont work with a Wii controler then please just dont do it

[Fierce_LiNk]

But for me Red Steel was almost unplayable.
Zelda yes but everything it did could of been mapped on to a button for the sword. Arrows were yet again annoyingly frustrating to get right just like on the N64 days.
Rayman well what can I say its a minigame collection with some decent minigames and yet some annoying minigames which are far too sensitive for the wii's game controller.

With Red Steel, it depends on who you talk to. I personally loved the controls and got into it quite easily, but it's criticised on the control front, so it's a love-hate thing.
I personally loved the Wiimote controls in Zelda. Aiming with the bow was pretty easy, I thought, and the speaker was used quite effectively. I think if I was pushed into choosing which version to play through on a second run, it would be the Wii version again. There's no going back for me. :D
I agree, the Wiimote can be supersensitive, especially in some of the super monkey ball multiplayer games. Gah, it pisses me off. But, the whole multiplayer was quite shoddy, imo.

Still, the way I see it, sensitivity issues will be ironed out. It's a new concept, and that means it'll take some getting used to. But, I found the aiming using the bow in Zelda to be a lot more intuitve than the aiming in some of the monkey ball games. I have faith that it will improve.

[fanman]

I would have loved a hard drive so that Nintendo could really expand the downloadable content! It wouldn't need to be a big one, maybe 5 or 10Gb!! I really think it would have been worth the extra money and I doubt it would have made the console cost that much more!

Maybe they'll have the option for an external usb one in the future...

[Rummy]

I'd rename it Revolution, or go back in time and never call it Wii.
A serious one though, I would MAKE BUTTONS CUSTOM MAPPABLE ON THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE SO PEOPLE CAN PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES WITH A GC PAD.
Sorry for the caps, but it REALLY annoys me, it'd be simple to fix too, surely?

Id have made an extra cable or something, so that when the wireless fucks up, you can still play it.

Something along these lines too, the option to wire in the CC, or even Wiimotes, and of course a rechargeable function for the wiimotes.

EDIT:Also been mentioned, but some decent online, or even some online, with no friend codery. DVD support should have been included too! Support for direct read/write from SD cards! Codec support for videos/audio!

[ZeldaFreak]

Arrows are easy to fire in Zelda unless you've got spastic arms. And Red Stell might be unplayable due to a crappy developer.

Metroid 3 could be awesome. But you wont give it time. Wii's crap. But you've got all the time in the world for PS3 to get some games.

Maybe its where my sensor bar is but keeps flashing around the screen, even when you hold your arm straight.

The only game I am willing to wait for is brawl and super paper mario. The first won't be available in the uk until 2008 & the other we haven't got a clue to what its like.

[Daft]

Maybe they'll have the option for an external usb one in the future...

The problem is, if it is external then it isn't standard and so it probably won't be supported by most developers!:hmm:
I really think Nintendo missed a huge opportunity...

[fanman]

The problem is, if it is external then it isn't standard and so it probably won't be supported by most developers!:hmm:
I really think Nintendo missed a huge opportunity...

Yeah, but an official nintendo one that fits in the usb drive at the back. Something similar to the hd dvd drive on the 360 (not 100% sure how that works, but you get the point). They could make an update on the wii, so it would only recognise a wii console instead of pcs to solve the security issue.

It would obviously just be an expansion to the internal memory, instead of having lots of sd cards.

Just a though. :hmm:

[LazyBoy]

If I were Nintendo? Well considering the machine sells more week on week (at a profit) then any other console, apart from its other product, the DS, I wouldn't change a freaking thing. In fact right about now i'd be sipping the bubbly.


However if I was Sony.....

[mcj metroid]

With Red Steel, it depends on who you talk to. I personally loved the controls and got into it quite easily, but it's criticised on the control front, so it's a love-hate thing.
I personally loved the Wiimote controls in Zelda. Aiming with the bow was pretty easy, I thought, and the speaker was used quite effectively. I think if I was pushed into choosing which version to play through on a second run, it would be the Wii version again. There's no going back for me. :D
I agree, the Wiimote can be supersensitive, especially in some of the super monkey ball multiplayer games. Gah, it pisses me off. But, the whole multiplayer was quite shoddy, imo.

Still, the way I see it, sensitivity issues will be ironed out. It's a new concept, and that means it'll take some getting used to. But, I found the aiming using the bow in Zelda to be a lot more intuitve than the aiming in some of the monkey ball games. I have faith that it will improve.

the multiplayer in monkey ball is just terrible.it wasnt sensitive it was just broken.Everything done in monkey ball was done better in rayman eg whack a mole or peek a boo game was a million times better in rayman

[Fierce_LiNk]

As far as game saves go, the flash memory is more than enough.

But when it comes to downloadable content, I think we're going to have a problem. I would've liked more flash memory, but if we are able to use hard-drives or enough flash pen drives, then that would be pretty cool.

[triforcemario]

Maybe its where my sensor bar is but keeps flashing around the screen, even when you hold your arm straight.

The only game I am willing to wait for is brawl and super paper mario. The first won't be available in the uk until 2008 & the other we haven't got a clue to what its like.A) How far away are you from the screen?
B) Have you got any spastic lights in your room?

[That Guy]

Maybe its where my sensor bar is but keeps flashing around the screen, even when you hold your arm straight.

The only game I am willing to wait for is brawl and super paper mario. The first won't be available in the uk until 2008 & the other we haven't got a clue to what its like.

Why are you willing to wait for it then if you know as much about it as all the other Wii games?

[blender]

a lot of the stuff mentioned could potential be included in software updates. But knowing ninty, you will need teh wii sp

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Some games that uses the telephone line for information sharing.

[ZeldaFreak]

Why are you willing to wait for it then if you know as much about it as all the other Wii games?

To say I played it. Despite what you think I love Intelligent Systems games.

Give them the chance to make Advance wars for the home console - not a game like BW.

[Goron_3]

ZeldaFreak...are you a sony fanboy?

[ZeldaFreak]

ZeldaFreak...are you a sony fanboy?

No I'm not a sony fanboy.

I used to be a nintendo fanboy -owned the N64/GC/GB/GBC/GBA/DS/Wii

Thing is one day I realised that Nintendo doesn't really cater to my tastes these days.

[Cookyman]

The only game I am willing to wait for is brawl and super paper mario. The first won't be available in the uk until 2008 & the other we haven't got a clue to what its like.


And you know Super Smash Brothers won't be out until 2008? How do you know this? do you work for Nintendo? are you Reggies secret lover???
No-one knows the release date for this game yet so stop acting like your in the know.

As for Paper Mario it's coming out on the 9th of April in the states so I'd imagine a European release will be shortly after that so you'll soon know what it's like and can make your mind up then.

Thing is one day I realised that Nintendo doesn't really cater to my tastes these days.

One day I relaised ZeldaFreak doesn't cater to this Forum's tastes

Now could you kindly remove your foot from your mouth. :p

[Gizmo]

I notice a distinct lack of intelligence on ZeldaFreak's front.

[BlueStar]

No I'm not a sony fanboy.

I used to be a nintendo fanboy -owned the N64/GC/GB/GBC/GBA/DS/Wii

Thing is one day I realised that Nintendo doesn't really cater to my tastes these days.

Well here's an idea, how about you ask mummy for 360/PS3 games for your next birthday and play games that do cater for your tastes instead of moaning that the Wii's not aimed exclusively at bumfluffed teenage hormone wrecks like yourself on the Wii forum of a Nintendo site?

Then maybe you'll grow out of this phase when you get a bit older.

[Goron_3]

No I'm not a sony fanboy.

I used to be a nintendo fanboy -owned the N64/GC/GB/GBC/GBA/DS/Wii

Thing is one day I realised that Nintendo doesn't really cater to my tastes these days.

You own every console I own :P

Anyway, i kinda understand what you're saying. With teh Wii nintendo are saying (whether they admit or not) 'If you want knew BIG games buy a 360/ps3. If you multiplayer fun with your mates or you want to introduce non gamers to gaming, by a wii'.

nintendo will make games towards your taste, but you're gonna have to wait a year or so mate. I mean, the GC got Batallion wars, fire emblem, Zelda, Mario and Metroid in the space of 2-3 years..Wii is getting them in the space of 1.

Give it time mate.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Seriously guys, if you're going to give somebody a counterargument, do it. But, don't resort to "petty insults" like calling him stupid or something. It's not right.

I still think there's big games heading Nintendo's way. I really don't see where all this party game business is coming from. We got a new Zelda on launch day, that's awesome I think. Nintendo has always been about multiplayer funness, but they have some heavy hitters, too.

[ZeldaFreak]

And you know Super Smash Brothers won't be out until 2008? How do you know this? do you work for Nintendo? are you Reggies secret lover???
No-one knows the release date for this game yet so stop acting like your in the know.

As for Paper Mario it's coming out on the 9th of April in the states so I'd imagine a European release will be shortly after that so you'll soon know what it's like and can make your mind up then.


One day I relaised ZeldaFreak doesn't cater to this Forum's tastes

Now could you kindly remove your foot from your mouth. :p

If you work it out 18 months development time for brawl - didn't start until may 2006. So it should be out in japan by november 2007. And then by January 2008 it will be out over here.

Its called logic.

[That Guy]

No I'm not a sony fanboy.

I used to be a nintendo fanboy -owned the N64/GC/GB/GBC/GBA/DS/Wii

Thing is one day I realised that Nintendo doesn't really cater to my tastes these days.

Nowt wrong with that. Just don't act like a child in giving your opinion.

[ZeldaFreak]

Well here's an idea, how about you ask mummy for 360/PS3 games for your next birthday and play games that do cater for your tastes instead of moaning that the Wii's not aimed exclusively at bumfluffed teenage hormone wrecks like yourself on the Wii forum of a Nintendo site?

Then maybe you'll grow out of this phase when you get a bit older.

Why would I ask for them when I could just go and buy them.

[BlueStar]

Why would I ask for them when I could just go and buy them.

Even better, spunk your student loan or Maccy D's cheque on them. Either way, stop moaning about the Wii and how you want it to be like two consoles that exist already! Why not buy the consoles aimed solely at your sterotypical teeny male demographic instead of wishing the only one with a wider target audience was exactly the same as the other two already available to you? Why not sell your Wii and use the money to buy Uber Cool Xtr3m Macho Growed Up Fighty Game Hi-Def 7 on the PS3 or 360? You could call your self something like "fatal1ty666" and shoot faceless swedish 13 year olds over the internet! And while you're doing that, you wont be on here acting like a broken record...

[Cookyman]

If you work it out 18 months development time for brawl - didn't start until may 2006. So it should be out in japan by november 2007. And then by January 2008 it will be out over here.

Its called logic.

Bloody hell your a Vulcan now!

Gasp......choke.......help me ZeldaFreaks got me in a Vulcan death grip! :shock:

I'll wait and see when it's released I'm not gonna go by your logic Spock. However if your right I'll set my phaser on stun and shoot myself!

[ZeldaFreak]

Bloody hell your a Vulcan now!

Gasp......choke.......help me ZeldaFreaks got me in a Vulcan death grip! :shock:

I'll wait and see when it's released I'm not gonna go by your logic Spock. However if your right I'll set my phaser on stun and shoot myself!

I hope you will follow through with the statement you have just made.

[Charlie]

I would release an updated Wiimote with a much better speaker in it, some of the sounds (usually from Zelda) that come out of it make me cringe.

I would also make an update so that you could change your Wii Friend Code into what your console name was and that could be added instead of the number.

[Pit-Jr]

Before i begin here, the Wii is NOT A BAD CONSOLE. I bought it, I enjoy it sometimes, and it has potential

I wish i could go back and find all the various interviews and quotes by Nintendo management about the controller, the hardware, online, and the VC during the 2 years leading up the Wii launch so i could point out how many lies were spouted.

A few of these lies, or misrepresentations

-Graphics/Wow
-the VC is just an attractive selling point, were not looking to make a business out of it
-SMASH BROS ONLINE AT LAUNCH!
-the 'revolution' controller will play any Nintendo game
-region free : peace:

Theres more but ill leave them out (such as DVD playback)

Again, the Wii is a perfectly GOOD console but its just not what i expected. So, on topic, how would i improve the Wii as it stands now?

-Slash VC prices to a more reasonable level

-Halt any internal production of GC sequel software. 'New generation' demands new IPs
*Nintendo is not a broke indie developer. It has huge software teams with deep pockets, why are we getting GC remixes??

-encourage (read:bribe) 3rd parties to bring AAA content, not PS2/PSP ports.

-take online multiplayer more seriously

If Nintendo would do those 4 things, my whole perception of the Wii would change

[That Guy]

I would release an updated Wiimote with a much better speaker in it, some of the sounds (usually from Zelda) that come out of it make me cringe.

I would also make an update so that you could change your Wii Friend Code into what your console name was and that could be added instead of the number.

Agree about the speaker, it's utter crap. But a decent idea.

With regards to the friend code thing, I'd have it so everyone creates an MSN style thing with email address', just add people to your list and then a simple thing with the game they're playing etc. like the 'listening to...' bit on Live messenger. Then obviously add the games in.

Before i begin here, the Wii is NOT A BAD CONSOLE. I bought it, I enjoy it sometimes, and it has potential

I wish i could go back and find all the various interviews and quotes by Nintendo management about the controller, the hardware, online, and the VC during the 2 years leading up the Wii launch so i could point out how many lies were spouted.

A few of these lies, or misrepresentations

-Graphics/Wow
-the VC is just an attractive selling point, were not looking to make a business out of it
-SMASH BROS ONLINE AT LAUNCH!
-the 'revolution' controller will play any Nintendo game
-region free : peace:

Theres more but ill leave them out (such as DVD playback)

Again, the Wii is a perfectly GOOD console but its just not what i expected. So, on topic, how would i improve the Wii as it stands now?

-Slash VC prices to a more reasonable level

-Halt any internal production of GC sequel software. 'New generation' demands new IPs
*Nintendo is not a broke indie developer. It has huge software teams with deep pockets, why are we getting GC remixes??

-encourage (read:bribe) 3rd parties to bring AAA content, not PS2/PSP ports.

-take online multiplayer more seriously

If Nintendo would do those 4 things, my whole perception of the Wii would change

ZeldaFreak take note. He just had bad things to say about the Wii and did it in a way that was constructive and made me read it and take it on board.

[Cookyman]

I hope you will follow through with the statement you have just made.


Of course I will - I'm a man of my word - if your right I will take a large slice of humble pie and probably choke on it. :o

Just please stop making statements that have no evidence of being genuine and stating them as fact.

I'll start charging the phaser now as well. : peace:

[ZeldaFreak]

But I don't like the controller full stop. I just wish every game had te option to play with classic controller.

[That Guy]

Of course I will - I'm a man of my word - if your right I will take a large slice of humble pie and probably choke on it. :o

Just please stop making statements that have no evidence of being genuine and stating them as fact.

I'll start charging the phaser now as well. : peace:

Yep, the constant 'fact giving' is really annoying. You have NO evidence whatsoever, yet continue to tell us it's coming 2008. Of course it is. Maybe it will, who knows? Not you, that's for sure.

But I don't like the controller full stop. I just wish every game had te option to play with classic controller.

What don't you like about it?

[Zell]

Another thing: get those USB ports working!

[Cube]

But I don't like the controller full stop. I just wish every game had te option to play with classic controller.

Then you need one of these (http://play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/659411/XBox_360_Premium_Console/Product.html)

[Cookyman]

But I don't like the controller full stop. I just wish every game had te option to play with classic controller.


Hmm think your in the minority there ZeldaFreak and since Wii games are designed with the Wiimote in mind your screwed. Ah well at least you've got your 360 to keep you going in quality games. You could always sell your Wii and buy some more of the games you fancy on the 360.

Then at a later date prob January 2008 if your logic dictates buy a new Wii and get smash brothers and start complaining about the controls again! lol

Sorry man that was too easy! couldn't help myself! :bouncy:

[ZeldaFreak]

Yep, the constant 'fact giving' is really annoying. You have NO evidence whatsoever, yet continue to tell us it's coming 2008. Of course it is. Maybe it will, who knows? Not you, that's for sure.



What don't you like about it?

What I like about it is:

+ motion sensing feature(not because its good its just it could be intergrated in certain games like samba di amigo)
+ speaker (but it would of been better if they put in a higher quality on)
+ rumble (its not essential but good never the less)

What I don't like about it is:

+ pointing functionality.

[fanman]

What I like about it is:

+ motion sensing feature
+ speaker (but it would of been better if they put in a higher quality on)
+ rumble (its not essential but good never the less)

What I don't like about it is:

+ pointing functionality.

The pointer function works very well, you just haven't positioned it right.

[ZeldaFreak]

The pointer function works very well, you just haven't positioned it right.

Well not for me it jumps all over the place - freezes and then repeats.

Its probably I only was playing it at night and therefore needed the lights on.

But if thats true whats causing the problem then its a design flaw on nintendos part.

[fanman]

Well not for me it jumps all over the place - freezes and then repeats.

Its probably I only was playing it at night and therefore needed the lights on.

But if thats true whats causing the problem then its a design flaw on nintendos part.

Move the sensor forward to the front of the tv, or if your tv is high up, put the sensor bar at the bottom.

Mine functions properly.

[ZeldaFreak]

Move the sensor forward to the front of the tv, or if your tv is high up, put the sensor bar at the bottom.

Mine functions properly.

Can't though at the base of my tv its a curved, and is the only place I can put it.

Can't put it on the tv because it doesn't balance on it.

[khilafah]

Needs better games on a more regular basis. yeah the sales are crazy but enough of wii sports and wii play. When i first saw the Wii i thought it would be perfect for light gun shooters (Time Crisis, House of the Dead etc) so its a shame that we are hearing no news on light gun shooters.

it would be nice too see games actually looking like Wii titles and not PS2/GC. VC has too be cheaper for sure, unless you have a japanese Wii prices are too high.

also like xbox live arcade, they should let you download a trial version first!!

[ZeldaFreak]

Needs better games on a more regular basis. yeah the sales are crazy but enough of wii sports and wii play. When i first saw the Wii i thought it would be perfect for light gun shooters (Time Crisis, House of the Dead etc) so its a shame that we are hearing no news on light gun shooters.

it would be nice too see games actually looking like Wii titles and not PS2/GC. VC has too be cheaper for sure, unless you have a japanese Wii prices are too high.

also like xbox live arcade, they should let you download a trial version first!!

A light gun though 'sees' your tv differently to what the wii controller 'sees' it as they would have to add a reticle and loads of redesigning the gameplay.

[Jasper]

P o s t i n S h o r t:
- High-Defenition. It's not like we don't care, Nintendo.
- True online. I've got friends, but reaching them over Wii is way to hard. get voice chat, online play and communications sorted out in a positive, Xbox Live-like way.
- Quicker loading of Channels and mostly: the OS itself. It's slow.


Here's my go on the subject: Basicly, I wouldn't change that much to the Wii. In the next generation, the only true change could be HD. I would however start development on the web getting started. more online services. I'm not talking about a full music library or movie directory - no, I'm talking about true online. Accesible forums, chat-room, easy to use online friends - no Wii-codes, and out with ridiculous things like the News Channel and Weather channel. They're nice to see, but the loading takes to long. So here's another: improve the loading times on the system. It should be able to be done - add some RAm, come 'on, Nintendo, it isn't that expensive.

The next Wii can't afford to be focused on games alone anymroe, it needs media-feature, wether or not people already own DVD-players and CD-compatible sound-bursters. Wii should do that, too. Don't be shaby on those little costs, boys. And then, finnally, like so many probably said before, true HD. Get off your lazy chairs and get us some HD. It's fricking two letters, but they make a hell of a lot to people who enjoy specs. And casual gamers don't dislike it either, Nintendo - it's not like it's infectious or something.

[Zechs Merquise]

- Better graphics, I'm not massively bothered about HD support, just graphics that look next gen. I'd have liked to see Zelda and Metroid in much greater detail.

- Not a TOTAL reliance on the new control method.

- VC controllers to work with GC games.

However, I have learned to like the name, it's a real talking point. I have also learned to like the controller for the games it's suited to.

[ZeldaFreak]

Yeah when Nintendo said you would see the graphics and say "wow". I say it looks fairly "poor". I personally think thnik Nintendo has missunderstood what real gamers want out of their console. And thats software that doesn't take 5 hours to play through.

Yeah zelda:tp was a 40hour game(to do everything) but didn't they say it would be around 50 odd hours.

[THE ganondorflol]

OK: When you leave the GC controller in the ports, you still have access to Wii games without having to take the GC controller off. Oh, and all VC games should work perfect with the GC controller.

[BlueStar]

You see, I think there are some good ideas in this thread on how to improve the Wii and make it a better Wii without turning it into another console.

But what I cannot for the life of me understand is stuff like:

"I hate everything about the Wii, the name, the size, the colour white etc etc, why oh why couldn't they use a controller like the dual shock, I wish they'd made it HDD, it should have Sony style online support, and a 60gig hard drive, and more storage capacity, like blueray or something, and it should have third party games like Metal Gear coming out for it, why oh why will no-one make a system like this for me, I'd pay up to $600 for it for sure, you've screwed us over nintendo, what are people with my tastes supposed to do, it's not fair, no-one caters for me, lets start a Wii bashing thread and a mail bomb campaign".

Instead of sitting around wishing the Wii was a PS3, buy a PS3...

[THE ganondorflol]

Exactly! They are totally different experiences.

[frankie_baby]

Yeah when Nintendo said you would see the graphics and say "wow". I say it looks fairly "poor". I personally think thnik Nintendo has missunderstood what real gamers want out of their console. And thats software that doesn't take 5 hours to play through.

Yeah zelda:tp was a 40hour game(to do everything) but didn't they say it would be around 50 odd hours.

F**k NO it'd take longer to rush through it with a walkthrough

[Domstercool]

They have probably been said, but things I would of done would be.

1, Have rechargable wiimotes, FFS seriously I'm fed up of buying batteries.

2, More internal storage memory. If they are going to allow demos and such, then we need more space.

3, Better component for online. Wii codes are plain crappy and totally bollocks. What is wrong with having a username for the Wii instead? Would of been soooo much easier. The friends list is a load of crap really too. It doesn't tell you who is online or off.

4, More juice wouldn't of hurt really. I'd like to know how much profit they are making on the Wii. Just to see what extra power and such could of been put in. This isn't that much of a factor, but it would of been nice to see just a glimpse of what the Wii is capable of from the start rather than waiting for games to show it later on.

5, Extra Wiimotes and Nunchuks should be a little cheaper. £45 each time is a little expensive.

Still even with alot of these niggles, the system is still great fun to play. I'm happy I own one.

[ZeldaFreak]

You see, I think there are some good ideas in this thread on how to improve the Wii and make it a better Wii without turning it into another console.

But what I cannot for the life of me understand is stuff like:

"I hate everything about the Wii, the name, the size, the colour white etc etc, why oh why couldn't they use a controller like the dual shock, I wish they'd made it HDD, it should have Sony style online support, and a 60gig hard drive, and more storage capacity, like blueray or something, and it should have third party games like Metal Gear coming out for it, why oh why will no-one make a system like this for me, I'd pay up to $600 for it for sure, you've screwed us over nintendo, what are people with my tastes supposed to do, it's not fair, no-one caters for me, lets start a Wii bashing thread and a mail bomb campaign".

Instead of sitting around wishing the Wii was a PS3, buy a PS3...

We aren't asking for alot:
- if they releashed the wii with 2/3 of the power of a 360.
- With an unified online experience
- With the option to play games with "normal controls" (i.e. using the classic controller)
- At least it should of had the option to play games in 720p - with using an upscaler if they truely didn't want to deliver on HD content.

[Patch]

There is no perfect way to make a console. What one person will love about it, another one will hate.

If you think there's something that needs improving upon, then that's purely your opinion and not necessarily the general consensus.

I think Abraham Lincoln didn't quite say it best:

You can please some of the people all of the time.
You can please all of the people some of the time.
But you can't please all of the people all of the time.

[BlueStar]

We aren't asking for alot:
- if they releashed the wii with 2/3 of the power of a 360.
- With an unified online experience
- With the option to play games with "normal controls" (i.e. using the classic controller)
- At least it should of had the option to play games in 720p - with using an upscaler if they truely didn't want to deliver on HD content.

That makes even less sense, it wouldn't have sold nearly as many units if it was just a watered down Xbox 360. How much would this piss poor jack-of-all-trades machine of yours cost?

[Goron_3]

That makes even less sense, it wouldn't have sold nearly as many units if it was just a watered down Xbox 360. How much would this piss poor jack-of-all-trades machine of yours cost?

Exactly. people would just go and buy a 360.

[LazyBoy]

We aren't asking for alot:
- if they releashed the wii with 2/3 of the power of a 360.
- With an unified online experience
- With the option to play games with "normal controls" (i.e. using the classic controller)
- At least it should of had the option to play games in 720p - with using an upscaler if they truely didn't want to deliver on HD content.

If the Wii was like this, I wouldn't have bought it.

[Gizmo]

Your biggest problem with the Wii seems to be the sensor bar. But this isn't a problem with the Wii, it is a problem with your setup. So what I don't understand is how you can blame Nintendo for the problems. Personally, I would rather have lower end graphics and games that come out more regularly than a powerhouse system with £50 games and £400 system. Integrating topend graphics and the Wii controls will make games take alot longer to develop, and you're already complaining about how Brawl won't be out until '08. You're arguments are consistenly hyprocritical, and you need to think them through before you spout them.

[Emasher]

i would allow you to buy specific amoundts of wii points so you if all you wanted was super mario bros you could just buy 500 points.

then i would start shipping the classic controller with the system.

[ZeldaFreak]

I still don't see whats so good about the wii's controller. It doesn't add anything new especially when you want to fire a gun in red steel you have to aim your arm to the top/bottom of your tv to get the sensor bar to pick up the movement.

My dad hates wii sports especially for the golf way over sensitive on drives and under sensitive on putting. However one of my dads favourite games is zelda. He was complaining about it : "so I flick the controller in order to use the sword, why not press a button?"

Thats a question I have asked myself sometimes it registers the flick other times you have to shake it to get a response out of that controller. It didn't hamper my dad's or my experience with the game, though.

If the Wii was like this, I wouldn't have bought it.

So you don't want a unified online experience with the wii? Huh..

:shakehead

[LazyBoy]

I still don't see whats so good about the wii's controller. It doesn't add anything new especially when you want to fire a gun in red steel you have to aim your arm to the top/bottom of your tv to get the sensor bar to pick up the movement.

My dad hates wii sports especially for the golf way over sensitive on drives and under sensitive on putting. However one of my dads favourite games is zelda. He was complaining about it : "so I flick the controller in order to use the sword, why not press a button?"

Thats a question I have asked myself sometimes it registers the flick other times you have to shake it to get a response out of that controller. It didn't hamper my dad's or my experience with the game, though.



So you don't want a unified online experience with the wii? Huh..

:shakehead

Not one I have to pay for, no. But that wasn't the point I was making, if the Wii didn't have the controller, than I wouldn't see the point in buying it. And the sensor bar stuff is your fault, after using it for arrows in Zelda, I couldn't go back, the precision and ease of use is incredible.

I mean seriously, what is the point of buying a machine that's 2/3s of the power of the 360, with the same control as we've already had for two generations? Please tell me, i'm honestly interested as to why you wouldn't just buy a 360?

[BlueStar]

So you don't want a unified online experience with the wii? Huh..

:shakehead

I certainly don't because I don't want developers concentrating on the online component of games. Just like I don't want a standard bundled controller so devs just port PS2 titles over or make crippled versions of 360 titles. I doubt anyone apart from you would have bought your dream machine, to be honest.

You really do seem to be saying "I wish the Wii was exactly like the 360, but not as powerful". You would have bought a Wii like that?

[Patch]

I still don't see whats so good about the wii's controller. It doesn't add anything new

No offense, but the guys who are replying to this kind of post are wasting their time.

[LazyBoy]

No offense, but the guys who are replying to this kind of post are wasting their time.

Yeah, it's like explaining art to a blind man.

[ZeldaFreak]

I certainly don't because I don't want developers concentrating on the online component of games. Just like I don't want a standard bundled controller so devs just port PS2 titles over or make crippled versions of 360 titles. I doubt anyone apart from you would have bought your dream machine, to be honest.

You really do seem to be saying "I wish the Wii was exactly like the 360, but not as powerful". You would have bought a Wii like that?

So the great online experience is something you don't want for the wii. ok then you stick using the fiend code crap then.

And they are still porting over ps2 ports of games and shoehorning the wii on to them.

I was playing uno just the other day and chatting away to this french chick tons of good fun. Yet nintendo don't want you to talk over the wii. Even the ps3 allows anyone with a bluetooth headset to talk over in games.

I certainly don't because I don't want developers concentrating on the online component of games. Just like I don't want a standard bundled controller so devs just port PS2 titles over or make crippled versions of 360 titles. I doubt anyone apart from you would have bought your dream machine, to be honest.

You really do seem to be saying "I wish the Wii was exactly like the 360, but not as powerful". You would have bought a Wii like that?

Seen as it would of been cheaper, then yeah

[Tellyn]

So the great online experience is something you don't want for the wii. ok then you stick using the fiend code crap then.

And they are still porting over ps2 ports of games and shoehorning the wii on to them.

I was playing uno just the other day and chatting away to this french chick tons of good fun. Yet nintendo don't want you to talk over the wii. Even the ps3 allows anyone with a bluetooth headset to talk over in games.



Seen as it would of been cheaper, then yeah

OK, there are American nutters telling me to f*** off whenever I play my friend's Xbox Live, and no one latches on. A pedophile uses PICTOCHAT to speak to young girls, which has a reach of 100ft, and everyone latches on and burns Nintendo as heretics. Imagine what would happen online?

[BlueStar]

So the great online experience is something you don't want for the wii. ok then you stick using the fiend code crap then.


Don't even use that, online games are full of people like you. I've traded a few Mii and used the new channel, that's about it. haven't used my DS or PC online for ages either.


And they are still porting over ps2 ports of games and shoehorning the wii on to them.

Yep, and I don't buy them. unless they use the controller and offer something different. if you didn't force devs to do it by not using a PS3 style old fashioned controller that's all we'd get.

I was playing uno just the other day and chatting away to this french chick tons of good fun. Yet nintendo don't want you to talk over the wii. Even the ps3 allows anyone with a bluetooth headset to talk over in games.


In real life? Did the french chick say LOL, MY DICE PWN, UR A FAG LOL. WTF UR USING FUCKING HACKS!?

The last thing I want is voice over online games.

Seen as it would of been cheaper, then yeah

How much cheaper? Would it not have been worth getting the more powerful 360? Haven't you got a 360 anyway? Why would youw ant a watered down one?

THE OTHER CONSOLES HAVE EVERYTHING YOU WANT. Play them instead. Or take some time out and learn to spell, take a course in English grammar and read a book about how to form an argument.

[Gizmo]

But would it have been cheaper? If they had all that in then no, it wouldn't be.

I personally have always hated console shooters because I hate the sort of "C Stick" movement to aim. Red Steel is so much better than that. It's the first console shooter I have enjoyed since Goldeneye. And Zelda aswell - while I don't need to get it in such a hurry like a shooter, the bow and arrow system is just so much easier with the wiimote. If the game doesnt register you're flicks, maybe thats because you have it on the "long movement" setting?

The online thing - if you want that, you pay the monthly for Xbox Live. That system was inplace well before Nintendo started on their one, so give them some time. It's not got a monthly like the Live.

Seriously. You're blind to what everyone here is telling you. This is my last post or look at this topic.

[ZeldaFreak]

Don't even use that, online games are full of people like you. I've traded a few Mii and used the new channel, that's about it. haven't used my DS or PC online for ages either.

Yep, and I don't buy them. unless they use the controller and offer something different. if you didn't force devs to do it by not using a PS3 style old fashioned controller that's all we'd get.

In real life? Did the french chick say LOL, MY DICE PWN, UR A FAG LOL. WTF UR USING FUCKING HACKS!?

The last thing I want is voice over online games.

How much cheaper? Would it not have been worth getting the more powerful 360? Haven't you got a 360 anyway? Why would youw ant a watered down one?

THE OTHER CONSOLES HAVE EVERYTHING YOU WANT. Play them instead. Or take some time out and learn to spell, take a course in English grammar and read a book about how to form an argument.

On xbox live playing uno - voip and unified online experiences is where multiplayer should be going to.

[BlueStar]

On xbox live playing uno - voip and unified online experiences is where multiplayer should be going to.

Sitting on your own playing with faceless geeks who might as well be bots is not where I want my multiplayer to be going to. And I always turn voice chat OFF as soon as I play any PC game so no, I wouldn't want it on my Wii.

People have told you if you want a 360, play your 360. Why you want two 360s is beyond me.

[Pit-Jr]

They have probably been said, but things I would of done would be.

2, More internal storage memory. If they are going to allow demos and such, then we need more space.


4, More juice wouldn't of hurt really. I'd like to know how much profit they are making on the Wii. Just to see what extra power and such could of been put in. This isn't that much of a factor, but it would of been nice to see just a glimpse of what the Wii is capable of from the start rather than waiting for games to show it later on.

I think its better that we DON'T know how much profit theyre making because quite frankly it would make me sick.

After several generations of Nintendo pouring theyre heart and soul into their consoles, the Wii just comes off as some sort of last-minute experiment in minimizing effort and maximizing profits. I know theyre a business but its not like theyre struggling or anything.

[fanman]

I think its better that we DON'T know how much profit theyre making because quite frankly it would make me sick.

After several generations of Nintendo pouring theyre heart and soul into their consoles, the Wii just comes off as some sort of last-minute experiment in minimizing effort and maximizing profits. I know theyre a business but its not like theyre struggling or anything.

Another generation like the gamecube would have put them in serious trouble.

[Pit-Jr]

Another generation like the gamecube would have put them in serious trouble.


The GC was Nintendo hardware engineering at its best (at launch) with poor public perception and marketing (and an unfortunate color choice)


The Wii is a not-so-awesome machine (at launch)
with great public perception and marketing.

Or at least thats my opinion of it. As a consumer, not a shareholder of Nintendo, naturally i want the best machine Nintendo can muster, and i dont think anyone can say with sincerity that the Wii is the best Nintendo can offer us.

Again, this is from a consumer perspective, not a business perspective

[LazyBoy]

The GC was Nintendo hardware engineering at its best (at launch) with poor public perception and marketing (and an unfortunate color choice)


The Wii is a not-so-awesome machine (at launch)
with great public perception and marketing.

Or at least thats my opinion of it. As a consumer, not a shareholder of Nintendo, naturally i want the best machine Nintendo can muster, and i dont think anyone can say with sincerity that the Wii is the best Nintendo can offer us.

Again, this is from a consumer perspective, not a business perspective

A very good post, but you're forgetting that the businesses priorities are always different from the consumer's; the business wants to make as much money for as little effort as possible, and the consumer wants to get as much for their money as possible. From a business standpoint, the Wii is great, and like i've laready said in this topic, if I were Nintendo I wouldn't change a thing.

[DCK]

I'll say it again, the Wii reuse of GameCube hardware was more than just making profit. It ensured backwards compability and hardware familiarity, it was chosen by design.

That doesn't mean I would've minded a more powerful setup though.

[Hero-of-Time]

I was playing uno just the other day and chatting away to this french chick tons of good fun.


Not to add fuel to the fire to this argument but I have you on my 360 friendslist and it says the following:

Last seen 11/19/2006 playing WWE SVR 2007

I have to ask you though if you hate the Wii that much and dont like the direction Nintendo have gone with it then simply sell the console or pack it away until a game you like appears. Also I am all for people having their own opinion but surely you know bashing the Wii on a Nintendo forum isnt a good idea especially when the argument is just based purely on opinion.

[Helmsly]

Have a button configuration for the virtual console, y'know so that the option of using the GC pad isn’t pointless for some games.

[motion]

F**k NO it'd take longer to rush through it with a walkthrough

Um, no. Rushing through Zelda with a walkthrough would take about 30 hours, if that.


But what I cannot for the life of me understand is stuff like:

"I hate everything about the Wii, the name, the size, the colour white etc etc, why oh why couldn't they use a controller like the dual shock, I wish they'd made it HDD, it should have Sony style online support, and a 60gig hard drive, and more storage capacity, like blueray or something, and it should have third party games like Metal Gear coming out for it, why oh why will no-one make a system like this for me, I'd pay up to $600 for it for sure, you've screwed us over nintendo, what are people with my tastes supposed to do, it's not fair, no-one caters for me, lets start a Wii bashing thread and a mail bomb campaign".

Instead of sitting around wishing the Wii was a PS3, buy a PS3...



He was being sarcastic.

[ZeldaFreak]

Not to add fuel to the fire to this argument but I have you on my 360 friendslist and it says the following:

Last seen 11/19/2006 playing WWE SVR 2007

I have to ask you though if you hate the Wii that much and dont like the direction Nintendo have gone with it then simply sell the console or pack it away until a game you like appears. Also I am all for people having their own opinion but surely you know bashing the Wii on a Nintendo forum isnt a good idea especially when the argument is just based purely on opinion.

Em well you see not to put out the fire but I have two accounts on my 360 mate ;)

[Hero-of-Time]

Em well you see not to put out the fire but I have two accounts on my 360 mate ;)


You kept this from me! For shame :angry: Hit me with your other account so I can add it to my buddy list

[ZeldaFreak]

You kept this from me! For shame :angry:

Yeah sorry about this - but I was getting bugged by 3 american kids I defeated on xbox live so they kept on and on, etc...

So I created a new gold account but I only really use it to play uno online and a couple of other games.

However during easter I will resume my gamercard "Linkified", OK :grin:

The other one I don't give out to people on this forum its just got some of my buds on sorry mate :(

[mcj metroid]

well the wii mote as of yet doesnt add anything new does it?but it will im sure.we need a game that we can say HEY this would never work without the wiimote.something like what hotel dusk did for ds

[BlueStar]

Yeah sorry about this - but I was getting bugged by 3 american kids I defeated on xbox live so they kept on and on, etc...

So I created a new gold account but I only really use it to play uno online and a couple of other games.

However during easter I will resume my gamercard "Linkified", OK :grin:

The other one I don't give out to people on this forum its just got some of my buds on sorry mate :(

This would be your "unifed online experience" then...

By the way, I'd wager there's more annoying American kids than uno playing french girls online.

motion2000
He was being sarcastic.

Who was being sarcastic?

[ZeldaFreak]

well the wii mote as of yet doesnt add anything new does it?but it will im sure.we need a game that we can say HEY this would never work without the wiimote.something like what hotel dusk did for ds

but can't hotel dusk techically run on the pc. But yeah loads of people like the story and think the puzzle design is flawed at best. From the game journos who have played it.

[BlueStar]

I've played it and it's better than anything I've played on the PC for quite a long time.

Also (without spoiling) there are parts of it which would be impossible on the PC.

[mcj metroid]

but can't hotel dusk techically run on the pc. But yeah loads of people like the story and think the puzzle design is flawed at best. From the game journos who have played it.

without resorting to pc.Its not fair to compare them.

I've played it and it's better than anything I've played on the PC for quite a long time.

Also there are parts of it which would be impossible on the PC.

Ã*greed its fantastic

[ZeldaFreak]

This would be you "unifed online experience" then...


Who was being sarcastic?

When I mean unified it means you can add friends with a usaername instead of friend codes. In my personal opinion from what I have seen of wii online so far is miles away from anything decent. You do realise I hope that online is the most important thing for consoles. 360 set the standard and no one is even trying to out do them.

[BlueStar]

You think online is the way forward for consoles, I think concentrating heavily online is a step backwards.

Again, it would make sense for you to simply pick up the two consoles aimed at you rather than trying to change the one that isn't specifially aimed just at you.

[mcj metroid]

yes i have in the perfect position to play wii online but cant.But still nobody besides us internet forum guys reeally care yet?Online is still not casual because you have to pay for it.i was hoping nintendo could make a free service as good as ms but i guess they cant and wont.but its not big enough to be the demise of a console yet

[ZeldaFreak]

Its not that though its if I want to play with my mates all I have to do is get on xbox live and start a game.

On the wii I have to have all there friend codes.

How is concentrating heavily online a step backwards.

Plus £40 is quite good considering they have to pay fro servers and bandwith

[That Guy]

When I mean unified it means you can add friends with a usaername instead of friend codes. In my personal opinion from what I have seen of wii online so far is miles away from anything decent. You do realise I hope that online is the most important thing for consoles. 360 set the standard and no one is even trying to out do them.

Online is VERY important, but it's not even close to being the MOST important thing ith a console. Agree with the rest though.

[mcj metroid]

it isnt but it just isnt as big as people say it is yet

Online is VERY important, but it's not even close to being the MOST important thing ith a console. Agree with the rest though.

perhaps its just where i live but i know nobody else that plays online besides pc

[BlueStar]

Its not that though its if I want to play with my mates all I have to do is get on xbox live and start a game.

On the wii I have to have all there friend codes.

How is concentrating heavily online a step backwards.

Plus £40 is quite good considering they have to pay fro servers and bandwith

It's taking gaming back to the days of the sun-fearing geek alone in his bedroom playing against his internet friends because his parents are using the living room.

By 'playing with your mates' on Xbox live, do you mean people you know in real life? Because I couldn't tell you a single guy from the pub, including those I play wireless DS and Wii multiplayer with who has a Live account.

[DCK]

When I mean unified it means you can add friends with a usaername instead of friend codes. In my personal opinion from what I have seen of wii online so far is miles away from anything decent. You do realise I hope that online is the most important thing for consoles. 360 set the standard and no one is even trying to out do them.
The Wii Console Code is likely to work that way. Surely it's not as easy as a name, but then again it's a simple 16-digit code which you have to enter once. Not too bad.

Don't bring in Pokemon Battle Colloseum, that is confirmed to use the DS system requiring seperate friend codes.

[ZeldaFreak]

It's taking gaming back to the days of the sun-fearing geek alone in his bedroom playing against his internet friends because his parents are using the living room.

By 'playing with your mates' on Xbox live, do you mean people you know in real life? Because I couldn't tell you a single guy from the pub, including those I play wireless DS and Wii multiplayer with who has a Live account.

Yes I play with real life mates on live - aswell as people I have met online-

Its hardly doing that seen as 8million people play WoW and a quite a significant minority are actual families who play it together online.

The Wii Console Code is likely to work that way. Surely it's not as easy as a name, but then again it's a simple 16-digit code which you have to enter once. Not too bad.

Don't bring in Pokemon Battle Colloseum, that is confirmed to use the DS system requiring seperate friend codes.

I bet all wii titles will just use the same system - nintendo alays changes their mind half way through.

[BlueStar]

Yes I play with real life mates on live - aswell as people I have met online-


You obviously have a different circle of friends to me then. Also, I like to play with people I can see and share a few cans with. Like I say, get the consoles that are aimed at your niche instead of trying to change the Wii.

[Fierce_LiNk]

The Wii console code reminds me of a phone number. Once you enter that into your address book, it's replaced by the name. So, whenever you get a txt message or phone call, it says it's from that person's name, and NOT the number.

You enter the code in once, there is nothing more to it. Entering the code from both sides is not really all that big an issue, purely a matter of security. I've just had a uni lecture on "internet safety" and it instantly made me think of this. Not only that, but over the last few weeks, several people who I do not know have added me to MSN. I've tried asking who they are, and they sign off. To say it pisses me off would be a huge understatement.

[ZeldaFreak]

Well wouldn't you like voip - if you could talk to your mates when playing a game if you know your playing with your mates though.

[Rummy]

You know ZeldaFreak, I think you bought the wrong thing when you bought a Wii. It's like going to a shop to get something to hammer in some nails, buying a screwdriver and then complaining how shit it is at the job. A Wii is a Wii, a PS3 is a PS3, a 360 is a 360, A Wii is neither a PS3 nor a 360, they are all different things. I think Nintendo decided to go with something different like this, it isn't so much in competition with the others as they are with each other. It also sounds like your problem with the pointer is your setup, stop whining about it and fix it, it isn't Nintendo's fault, it sounds very much like yours. Also, I gotta say your story of two live accounts is a bit shady, and also offputting if you would have to create a whole new account to avoid some whiny american kids, even more reason to not have the same features on wii.

A light gun though 'sees' your tv differently to what the wii controller 'sees' it as they would have to add a reticle and loads of redesigning the gameplay.

I don't see why any of that would have to have been done? Or do you mean if already existing ones were to be brought/ported to wii? I think it'd be cool if they actually brought out that light gun shell for the wiimote, and made a game for it, but you could configure the 'gun' in game so it'd be a straight aim sort of thing(like with the Super Scope).

They have probably been said, but things I would of done would be.

1, Have rechargable wiimotes, FFS seriously I'm fed up of buying batteries.

2, More internal storage memory. If they are going to allow demos and such, then we need more space.

3, Better component for online. Wii codes are plain crappy and totally bollocks. What is wrong with having a username for the Wii instead? Would of been soooo much easier. The friends list is a load of crap really too. It doesn't tell you who is online or off.

4, More juice wouldn't of hurt really. I'd like to know how much profit they are making on the Wii. Just to see what extra power and such could of been put in. This isn't that much of a factor, but it would of been nice to see just a glimpse of what the Wii is capable of from the start rather than waiting for games to show it later on.

5, Extra Wiimotes and Nunchuks should be a little cheaper. £45 each time is a little expensive.

Still even with alot of these niggles, the system is still great fun to play. I'm happy I own one.

I mostly agree with these, as for the profit they're making, I'd actually put it at somewhere from £10-£50 given that they're turning profit in all territories, so let's call it £30 average. I think even if it's less than that, they've made a ton of profit, but I am quite confused as to where this money is going, it should be going into making new games decent, and the online service decent too. I think the reason for the lack of things with the Wii, is probably because it was quite different, and Nintendo just couldn't afford to sell it at a loss because if it flopped it would probably have seriously hurt them. Even so, Nintendo must be pulling in loads of money with the Wii and DS, I just hope they put it to some decent use.

[seamus_aran]

Strike up a friendship with Apple.

Let them use GB/GBA/GBCSNES/NES/N64 games for the iPhone (if they can handle the latter), allowing them to put online support in if they really want. Let them have creative control over it.

But we would gain is an iTunes compatable DS and Wii with downloadable movies/music and probably games. In turn it would be able to compete with the mulitmedia offerings from Sony/Microsoft without too much effort on Nintendo's part. Would mean a new channel ("iTunes"). Would come with things such as docking with iPod and the such and synching. You get the idea...

Get Mozila working on the browser. Put more memory in the Wii so it would be a viable release platform for the online browser. While we're at it, put Thunderbird on there as well - allowing for emails and what not. Again, not too much effort on Nintendo's part.

Link the Mii's on the Wii with the DS - and codes. keep the individual game codes, but allow an 'address book' to download everyone you knows onto your Wii if they dont' want to increase capacity on the DS. Then make them streamable over the net.

But all these individual features with regards to people could be easilly solved with a 'gamertag' service - but take out those STUPID challenges and score. Simply let people see when you've completed things on certain difficulty. Then let them see the games you have (on DS and Wii) and your able to add those people to your games. Availabe in game? Perhaps... could be difficult to implement.

Release a keyboard for the Wii - allow for easy data entry. Also go to PC develoeprs and get them to release older classics for the Wii - starcraft, civilization, simcity, CS ect. The outdated graphics could be put up to higher Wii standards but rebranding and some tweaks here and there would save the developers a lot of time and give the consumer something that the other consoles don't have - proper 'mouse' play (you'll understand what I mean anyone who has tried using the controller for FM07 on the 360).

A faster online shop please. Re release some older controllers with Wifi built in please - I personally would rather control MK64 with a N64 controller than the classic controller.

The movie viewer would support more formats if it was linked to iTunes. The picture viewer needs some work personally - or perhaps it isn't needed? I dunno... its nice to view y our snaps on your Wii, but they should only be used as an avitar, or perhaps certain uses in games... I dunno. That ones hard to fix. But I know its not perfect.

It is all I can think of at the moment... if I were attempting to make the Wii perfect.

[Jasper]

Strike up a friendship with Apple.

Let them use GB/GBA/GBCSNES/NES/N64 games for the iPhone (if they can handle the latter), allowing them to put online support in if they really want. Let them have creative control over it.

But we would gain is an iTunes compatable DS and Wii with downloadable movies/music and probably games. In turn it would be able to compete with the mulitmedia offerings from Sony/Microsoft without too much effort on Nintendo's part. Would mean a new channel ("iTunes"). Would come with things such as docking with iPod and the such and synching. You get the idea...

Get Mozila working on the browser. Put more memory in the Wii so it would be a viable release platform for the online browser. While we're at it, put Thunderbird on there as well - allowing for emails and what not. Again, not too much effort on Nintendo's part.

Link the Mii's on the Wii with the DS - and codes. keep the individual game codes, but allow an 'address book' to download everyone you knows onto your Wii if they dont' want to increase capacity on the DS. Then make them streamable over the net.

But all these individual features with regards to people could be easilly solved with a 'gamertag' service - but take out those STUPID challenges and score. Simply let people see when you've completed things on certain difficulty. Then let them see the games you have (on DS and Wii) and your able to add those people to your games. Availabe in game? Perhaps... could be difficult to implement.

Release a keyboard for the Wii - allow for easy data entry. Also go to PC develoeprs and get them to release older classics for the Wii - starcraft, civilization, simcity, CS ect. The outdated graphics could be put up to higher Wii standards but rebranding and some tweaks here and there would save the developers a lot of time and give the consumer something that the other consoles don't have - proper 'mouse' play (you'll understand what I mean anyone who has tried using the controller for FM07 on the 360).

A faster online shop please. Re release some older controllers with Wifi built in please - I personally would rather control MK64 with a N64 controller than the classic controller.

The movie viewer would support more formats if it was linked to iTunes. The picture viewer needs some work personally - or perhaps it isn't needed? I dunno... its nice to view y our snaps on your Wii, but they should only be used as an avitar, or perhaps certain uses in games... I dunno. That ones hard to fix. But I know its not perfect.

It is all I can think of at the moment... if I were attempting to make the Wii perfect.

Here's an idea for you: try a PostinShort feature. It would be great, because I'm not reading the entire article. But I read the first centence and, well, Apple is working with Sony right now, sicne they're in the Blu-Ray association and therefore can't really betray them. Sorry, not happening. And Apple does not collaborate. And the music store is licensed to iTunes as software only, if Sony would see that their music is published on other consoles than theirs, they'll pull back their license for the music store, and it would ruin Apple.

[Kurtle Squad]

Bigger Hard Dirve....it's WAY too Tiny; 1GB would have been decent enough.

[AshMat]

I think online is a BIG feature, for example, whyen i get my 360, i know at least 3 guys from shool that i'll be adding to play Gears, etc with.

[Rummy]

Bigger Hard Dirve....it's WAY too Tiny; 1GB would have been decent enough.

WAY too tiny but double would have been enough? Sounds like it isn't that small then. I do agree, more internal memory would been better, or some viable ways of expanding such as direct read/write to a usb harddrive, or to SD cards.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I think online is a BIG feature, for example, whyen i get my 360, i know at least 3 guys from shool that i'll be adding to play Gears, etc with.

But then, there's so many issues with that.

When you get a 360, heck, even if you get a 360 tomorrow, it'll have been out on the market for a long time. Gears of war has only just been released on the system as well.

[mcj metroid]

how about proper online and you know.maybe gaming online istead of you know...voting!

my god i know nobody is forcing me to get it its free etc etc but this is bullshit.Is THIS why we have no online and are experiencing a games drought? and even then i thought if there was a drought the void would be filled with VC games.........huh?

[Rummy]

how about proper online and you know.maybe gaming online istead of you know...voting!

my god i know nobody is forcing me to get it its free etc etc but this is bullshit.Is THIS why we have no online and are experiencing a games drought? and even then i thought if there was a drought the void would be filled with VC games.........huh?

Some people can be so thick.
God forbid they could actually *gasp* work on more than one thing at a time?!!? This is probably just a little thing they've added to shoot a tiny bit of life into the wii, and also maybe to make some money on the side, who knows? Either way, it does NOT mean that they have dedicated the whole company's resources to making this one basic channel and aren't working on anything else at all.

[pedrocasilva]

I'd improove the Mii system, giving options like bandages and blue hair so I could do my own army of rei ayanami's, and of course... I'd add DOA-like boob physics... think about it, nobody can do a Pamela Anderson Mii since she is only identifiable by "those" traits.

Also it would be cool to see on wii tennis.

Seriously though... Instant messaging, "you were added" notifications, "owned game list sharing", capability of sorting the contact list by alphabetical order for example... and of course a media center.

I'd also try to pay (moneyhats) some ports over to Wii, no matter what the cost, like... Tales of the Abyss, Okam, if possible the FF's, kinda like what happened when Psone took over, square made remakes and re-editions for all games, FF is making 20 years so the porting spree has a reason to happen... I'd try to get that to happen.

I'd also invest in GT Pro series, not since it's a great game but because their trademark is good (similar to Sony's own), a new game from scratch for wii with a bigger funding and realistic graphics could well turn into something Wii needs.

I'd also buy Camelot for good, or try... then make them do killer-Final Fantasy-Apps for life :D

Also... F-Zero WX and a Starfox would be mandatory from my part.

Big delusional post but yeah.

[THE ganondorflol]

I know a few of us on here don't like the wii. What of lack of actual good game titles. So heres my thought if you were Nintendo what would you do instead?

Blow up Sony and Microsoft HQ. Little competition would we have then.

[Zechs Merquise]

I'd defo sort out the farce that is 'friends codes'. Nintendo should let anyone play with anyone.

[fanman]

I'd defo sort out the farce that is 'friends codes'. Nintendo should let anyone play with anyone.

They will, they just won't let anyone chat with anyone, as obviously, that leads to lawsuits about paedophilia.

[darksnowman]

If I was Nintendo, I reckon I would see if I could get the machine any smaller, get the full spectrum of colours onto shelves as soon as possible and even make rechargeable controllers and wireless nunchuk attachments a reality.

[Pyxis]

I would make the Wii twice as powerful, include a 20gb hard drive + sd card slots, add DVD playback and make the console in black.

I'd remove all the crappy games for the system (including wii sports and wii play) so that we can move onto proper games instead of that trash. The console would also be named Revolution.:) The console can retail for an extra 20 pounds at 199.99

[Helmsly]

Whenever Nintendo release the DVD playing Wii (and if they release it outside of Japan) They could bump up that 512 internal flash memory just a bit.

They will, they just won't let anyone chat with anyone, as obviously, that leads to lawsuits about paedophilia.

MS dosnt seem to get any of those problems with Xboxlive or Sony with any of its online titles like Socom.

[mcj metroid]

MS dosnt seem to get any of those problems with Xboxlive or Sony with any of its online titles like Socom.

how many kids play on xbox live?In all fairness nintendo is still seen as a kids company

[ZeldaFreak]

how many kids play on xbox live?In all fairness nintendo is still seen as a kids company

On xbox with halo 2 - how many american little kids were on I don't know. Plus they could just disguise their voices. And in the states , back to 360,xbox live voice chat got someone arrested as they were bragging about shooting up something.

But thats because Nintendo don't want to, or should I say not yet because they haven't really told us much about how their online game infrastrure to buy full retail games will work.

[Helmsly]

They will, they just won't let anyone chat with anyone, as obviously, that leads to lawsuits about paedophilia.

how many kids play on xbox live?In all fairness nintendo is still seen as a kids company

Hopefully that image has changed now since the DS and Wii's release. I think pretty much every advert for the Wii has shown people of all ages (DS lite adverts too) playing so if Nintendo are aiming for everyone and anyone, to put a restictive online service will be a strange move.

You're right though a lot of people will still see Nintendo as a company for kids and I'm sure some rag like the daily mail would just jump a the chance to try and start some small hysteria when the Wii goes online.

[Patch]

I'd add DOA-like boob physics... think about it, nobody can do a Pamela Anderson Mii since she is only identifiable by "those" traits.

Also it would be cool to see on wii tennis.

That would be awesome. Imagine the slow motion replays.

Seriously though....

Oh, er, yeah. I was also joking.

[fanman]

MS dosnt seem to get any of those problems with Xboxlive or Sony with any of its online titles like Socom.

They're not restricting your playing at all, so I don't see why you're complaining. They're doing it to be "safe and secure" which they hope will attract more people to the service, and give it a good name.

[Menkor]

They're not restricting your playing at all, so I don't see why you're complaining. They're doing it to be "safe and secure" which they hope will attract more people to the service, and give it a good name.

So it is not restricting your playing it they make it safe and secure? Sure...

[fanman]

So it is not restricting your playing it they make it safe and secure? Sure...

You fucking tard, talking after matches doesn't come under playing in my books.

[Menkor]

You fucking tard, talking after matches doesn't come under playing in my books.


Why swearing?
What about talking during matches and the crappy friend codes?

[fanman]

Why swearing?
What about talking during matches and the crappy friend codes?

"Crappy friend codes" are there so we can play our friends. They won't be there with the wii, they'll be one of them. You can't talk dyrung matches in any games now as it is on ds anyway.

[Menkor]

"Crappy friend codes" are there so we can play our friends. They won't be there with the wii, they'll be one of them. You can't talk dyrung matches in any games now as it is on ds anyway.


And what about making new friends then? If I want to play with my friends I bring them to my house and play Wii, I play at the net to have fun and find new friends to play with
How is that possible with the Wii?

The code for the Wii is still a friend code, nothing can change that fact
Shall we set the standard of online by a portable console?

[fanman]

And what about making new friends then? If I want to play with my friends I bring them to my house and play Wii, I play at the net to have fun and find new friends to play with
How is that possible with the Wii?

The code for the Wii is still a friend code, nothing can change that fact
Shall we set the standard of online by a portable console?

You just play online, why do you have to add everybody and chat deeply with them, invite them round to your house and get raped by them? You play games for fun, not to make new friends.

[Menkor]

You just play online, why do you have to add everybody and chat deeply with them, invite them round to your house and get raped by them? You play games for fun, not to make new friends.


And is it not more funny to play online if I can play together with my new friends? Otherwise, it feels like I am playing against bots
I play games for fun yes, it is even better if I play them with friends

What do you want? Play games with friends and laughing in a microphone when you drive past them in a racing game or do you just want to drive past them without having fun together? It feels more like playing against bots than humans in the way you want to play

[fanman]

And is it not more funny to play online if I can play together with my new friends? Otherwise, it feels like I am playing against bots
I play games for fun yes, it is even better if I play them with friends

What do you want? Play games with friends and laughing in a microphone when you drive past them in a racing game or do you just want to drive past them without having fun together? It feels more like playing against bots than humans in the way you want to play

Well you will be able to do it with friends. If you don't like online play, don't play it.

[Helmsly]

Well you will be able to do it with friends. If you don't like online play, don't play it.

... he already said, if he wanted to play with friends he'd invite them around his house for multiplayer. I don't know why you feel the need to pretend all these things would make online safe and secure when they actually do no such thing and just end up being needles obstacles and, wait for it: Restrictions.

[fanman]

... he already said, if he wanted to play with friends he'd invite them around his house for multiplayer. I don't know why you feel the need to pretend all these things would make online safe and secure when they actually do no such thing and just end up being needles obstacles and, wait for it: Restrictions.

All they stop you from doing is talking to strangers. That's it! Why are you complaining about that?

[mcj metroid]

hmm well sometimes i ld like to be able to say good game or you cheating bastard to the opposition.The only nintendo game that comes close is 42 games......and you know what thats like

[Pit-Jr]

All they stop you from doing is talking to strangers. That's it! Why are you complaining about that?

The Wii already has Parental controls. Nintendo's role of babysitter should stop there.

[ZeldaFreak]

Or how about this add a parentel feature in their disable voice chatting to friends only or something like that

[fanman]

Or they might not even do that and just have the friend codes for meeting up with friends only.

[ZeldaFreak]

Why may I ask would you not want to play with other players and all that shizzle

[Charlie]

"Crappy friend codes" are there so we can play our friends. They won't be there with the wii, they'll be one of them. You can't talk dyrung matches in any games now as it is on ds anyway.

You can talk to friends on Tony Hawks Downhill Jam during matches. Or they said you would be able to at E3 last year....

[ZeldaFreak]

"Crappy friend codes" are there so we can play our friends. They won't be there with the wii, they'll be one of them. You can't talk dyrung matches in any games now as it is on ds anyway.

BTW in ONM they have stated that each game, will use friend codes on the wii

[Charlie]

BTW in ONM they have stated that each game, will use friend codes on the wii

That's just because Pokemon did in Japan, and that was because the online thing wasn't up and running so they use the DS service. Elebits uses the Wii's system code.

[ZeldaFreak]

That's just because Pokemon did in Japan, and that was because the online thing wasn't up and running so they use the DS service. Elebits uses the Wii's system code.

Elebits uses WiiConnect24 not online play against another human though ;)

And source of that it definately won't

[*Dalco*]

don't think anything needs improving myself i just feel its going through a bad spell in games which every new console had. i'm not bothred about graphics, DVD, HD etc as i got my 360 for that (and most likely by next year a PS3 once it has some decent exclusives).
the whole reason i bought the wii was for nintendo games and so i know eventually once the first party games come through i'll be happy with the wii.

[Pit-Jr]

one more thing i would improve is making Vc games transferable. Currently, if your system gets stolen, or self-explodes, you are basically screwed. I don't like the fact that when my Wii eventually dies i lose everything i paid for

[LazyBoy]

one more thing i would improve is making Vc games transferable. Currently, if your system gets stolen, or self-explodes, you are basically screwed. I don't like the fact that when my Wii eventually dies i lose everything i paid for

Don't quote me on this but i'm pretty sure your account is kept so that you can just download it again. They put it like that so if you run out of room on the hard-drive, you can delete a game and download it later.

[Pit-Jr]

as far as ive gathered , Vc games can only be played on the machine they were downloaded from. So if you replace your Wii, you're SOL. When you buy Wii Points online, they warn you of this

non-refudable and non-transferable

this problem does not exist on the 360 or the PS3

[fanman]

I'm sure if you got in contact with them they could dort something out.

[darkjak]

as far as ive gathered , Vc games can only be played on the machine they were downloaded from. So if you replace your Wii, you're SOL. When you buy Wii Points online, they warn you of this

non-refudable and non-transferable

this problem does not exist on the 360 or the PS3

I've heard that Nintendo have promised in some interview that if your console gets broken after a bunch of years, you're supposed to call Nintendo (or Nintendo of europe in our case), and they'll manage it for you. Anyways, where do you find out what your Friend code is?


What I'd like to have improved about the Wii is that it shouldn't constantly disconnect when you swap channels. I want the Wii remain connected untill I turn the thing off. My router constantly f**ks up, you have to try to connect like time and time over, but once you ARE connected it works fine.

[Pit-Jr]

I've heard that Nintendo have promised in some interview that if your console gets broken after a bunch of years, you're supposed to call Nintendo (or Nintendo of europe in our case), and they'll manage it for you.


I do hope thats the case. It seems to be one of those gray areas that Nintendo doesnt like to talk about. Im getting my information from the Wii manual, Shop Channel disclaimers, and from Game Informer, who have this to say:

Unfortunately, Nintendo states that neither your account nor downloads can be transferred between two units--something we tested also.

No big deal if they really do handle the issue over the phone, but it would make more sense to have a seperate Shop Channel account thats not tied to the console itself