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Locky
12-10-2005, 10:42 PM
I found an interesting article on Channel 4's GameCentral Teletext pages.

I've typed it out below for those who don't have access to Teletext.

GameCentral, In the Middle, p378

Nintendo's Worst Enemy

The worldwide release of Nintendogs (naturally Europe was last) marks a milestone for the Nintendo DS. It's been out nearly a year now and finally games are starting to appear which offer a genuinely different experience - not just to the GBA but all the other consoles as well. Or at least they do if you live in Japan. In the UK apparently we aren't allowed to play the good stuff.

Although there have been many UK released DS titles we've enjoyed, games like Yoshi Touch & Go and Pac-Pix have been severely limited in scope. In the West the DS is currently being outsold by the PSP by about two to one. In Japan the situation is reversed. The reason is blindly obvious: Japan gets all the experimental avant garde games while we in the West get nothing but franchise sequels and licensed tat.

There have been only two AAA titles released for the DS in the UK: Advance Wars (which could easily have just been a GBA game) and puzzle title Meteos. Nintendogs could arguably join them, at least in terms of how imaginatively it uses the DS. Nintendo of Europe's infuriating conservatism and slowness when it comes to publishing games in the UK is in danger of killing yet another console.

In Japan there's many very good reasons why it's been the best selling console for the last six months. There's multiplayer rhythm action game Daigasso! Band Brothers, the two budget priced Brain Training games, mega manga licence Jump Super Stars, bizarre music application Electroplankton and the wonderful Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan! Not to mention Kirby: Power Paintbrush which the Yanks have had for months.

Out of the seven top-notch games on the previous frame the only one with a UK release date is Kirby: Power Paintbrush, on November 25. That's eight months after the Japanese release and five months after the US. No wonder Nintendo fans are often seen as obsessive: they have to be if they're actually going to be able to play more than half the games the company releases.

Unless Nintendogs, or maybe one of the new online games, is a Pokemon-sized hit we can't see the DS ever being more than a niche console in the UK. In terms of the games available for it here though it doesn't deserve more. Nintendo of Europe might give the excuse that these more esoteric games won't sell - but neither is its other stuff at the moment so there really is nothing to lose.

Locky
12-10-2005, 10:45 PM
I'm not sure I agree with the fact that there isn't any 'good stuff' coming up - there are loads of games to look forward to in the run up to Christmas! :grin:

craig
12-10-2005, 10:47 PM
I read GameCentral every morning and that article hit the nail on the head.

ViPeR
12-10-2005, 10:52 PM
I'd have to agree with all that is said in there. The release date for Kirby is a joke quite frankly. NOE really needs a kick in the ass, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be getting it despite numerous promises.

dazzybee
12-10-2005, 10:54 PM
I dont think it did, Kirby is the only game that might do well here. The others wouldnt, Im not saying I dont want them because I certainly do, but it wouldnt shift consoles. The west is a completely different market to JPN so the guy clearly doesnt know what he is talking about, plus his stat that PSP is outselling the DS by two to one is misleading in that the PSP has just come out so of course it will and that it doesnt include last week.

The fact the guy doesnt even mentio Mario Kart shows his lack of knowledge, this game will clearly be a million seller in every region (USA, JPN and EUROPE) and will shift hundreds of thousands of DS's. Locky is right, there are other great games coming out too. Also, he mentions AW and Meteos as being AAA titles!! Huh, Meteos hasnt and wont sell more copies that Mario 64 or Wario Ware, or probably even Project Rub and half the 'franchise tat' - is he arguing about quality or sales here?? They are two VERY different things!!!

Both consoles will do extremely well. The article makes one point well in that it would be great to see the mentioned games over here, but everything else, imo, is bollocks!!

kav82
12-10-2005, 10:55 PM
The article does speak many truths, we could do with seeing some more games here, a little earlier too!

Although we're going to be seeing some decent games coming out for sure I'd love to see them a little sooner!

broadwayrock
13-10-2005, 12:02 AM
They gave Nintendogs a 7 out of 10 in their recent review.

gaggle64
13-10-2005, 12:04 AM
We could just do something crazy, like, ooh, I dunno, IMPORT games or something mad like that.

craig
13-10-2005, 12:39 AM
They gave Nintendogs a 7 out of 10 in their recent review.

I thought it was a fair review but I dont agree with this term non-game that is being used more frequently to describe games on the DS.

Link
13-10-2005, 01:58 AM
I thought it was a fair review but I dont agree with this term non-game that is being used more frequently to describe games on the DS.

Fair review? Have you played it? It's amazing! Why is it that everyone else rates it so highly? Atleast know what you're talking about buddy....

craig
13-10-2005, 07:46 AM
Fair review? Have you played it? It's amazing! Why is it that everyone else rates it so highly? Atleast know what you're talking about buddy....

Chill out, just because you like it doesn't mean everyone does.
Opinion does not equal fact.

mike-zim
13-10-2005, 09:22 AM
i haven't played nintendogs, so i cant really comment. but i would think 7/10 is not a bad score. i am really not interested in the game personnally but the person who was reviewing it might not have enjoyed it. it is personnal preference. it makes us human.

but on topic this may not be the most factual article ever written but we do need more articles like this so that NOE get the message. i have said it before but there should be no reason why we in the UK dont get games at the same time as the US. i could deal with a few spelling differences like "color".

Shyguy
13-10-2005, 09:50 AM
im wondering if release dates will become sooner if UK drop out of the EU hmm

RedShell
13-10-2005, 09:52 AM
i have said it before but there should be no reason why we in the UK dont get games at the same time as the US. i could deal with a few spelling differences like "color".Yep, I very much agree with you there.

I won’t comment on NOE right now though has I'm sure everyone is fed up with me going on about how shit they are - whoops sorry! :heh:

Owen
13-10-2005, 11:33 AM
I 100%, agree with that article.

Mike
13-10-2005, 12:03 PM
i have said it before but there should be no reason why we in the UK dont get games at the same time as the US. i could deal with a few spelling differences like "color".

The most annoying thing regarding delays for me is that with most games, we still DO have to deal with American spellings, however long a game is delayed. If Nintendo are going to blame delays on localization, they could at least bother localizing it for the UK rather than just the other EU countries.

Darv
13-10-2005, 12:12 PM
Don't forget that they need time to manufacture the games, distibute them as well as localising foreign languages. Then after localisation they need to be tested. They also have to be given a rating certificate.

I'm not saying it doesn't take too long because frankly it does. But I can appreciate that we can't have it instantly.

As for the article, I agree with some points, but it's got no mention of the quality games coming out in the comming months, Mario Kart, Sonic, Animal Crossing, Metroid etc

LukeLee
13-10-2005, 06:15 PM
The writer seems rather uninformed and like he is writing to seek attention. I would love to see truly original games come out for the DS, but they dont guarantee success just because of their originality, not even in Japan - both Electroplankton and Quenden failed to make an impression there.

As others have said he fails to mention the big games just around the corner (like Mario Kart and such). To suggest that the DS will only achieve a niche market in the handheld gaming industry is silly - the battle between the DS and PSP is still too young to judge (especially in Europe), it will be interesting to see how they stand against each other in about a year from now, when both have had their big titles out.