360 or Wii? tempted for 360...

[Atomic Boo]

I really like the looks of some of the 360 games out there. They all sound really engagingand fun, and i have two friends that have them who i can swap games with easily.
There's just a few points that i need to let you know that aid me in my decision.

I need to play Metroid Corruption for wii at some point and i doubt i will buy 2 consoles.
It's unlikely that i will get xbox live
I need somewhere that has a smallish price.

There are different types of 360 arent there? Well i need to know which is best for me. Which type is cheapest but still plays well.
Thanks for your help.

[ghost_zero]

First: If you want to buy a 360 I would wait until the new version is out (should be more quiet...

[Atomic Boo]

First: If you want to buy a 360 I would wait until the new version is out (should be more quiet...

will that be more expensive?

[Charlie]

360 over Wii every single time, I own them both. The 360 is by far the better console at the moment, there are so many good games out for it at the moment, on the Wii you'll struggle to get 2 excellent games.

[Ant-Shimmin]

Yes their is a rumoured new version of 360 out, but it depends how badly you want it, if you can wait about 6-12 months then sound

If you get one now get the £280, no YOU MUST get it the other one is a rip off.

[Ramar]

If you don't intend to get Live I wouldn't buy one. Without Live an Xbox360 is just a generic console. With Live its a hybrid of highly addicitive online gaming.

[Atomic Boo]

Okily Dokily. Ill buy a wii then.
Lock thread.

[ghost_zero]

Well the only problem with the Wii is that there are currently not that much games released yet but of course that will change.

Yes their is a rumoured new version of 360 out, but it depends how badly you want it, if you can wait about 6-12 months then sound

If you get one now get the £280, no YOU MUST get it the other one is a rip off.

That is not a rumour. It is fact that there will be a new revision with a new processor (just switched to 65nm otherwise same processr but should produce less heat and therefore easier to cool) and as far as I know it should get released this half-year...
What is a rumour is that this console might get a HDMI-Output too...
And no it probably won't be more expensive. They just changed the CPU (to 65nm) and coolers...

Btw.: I own both consoles. 360 bought January last year and now I bought the Wii (release date)... I am happy with both. They are different and both have their advantages and some nice games (XBox360 currently has more games but got also released over a year)...
PS3: No, I won't buy it (at least not for that price maybe after some price drops), especially it is not much better than the 360; if you ask me it is worse than the 360 (it has less memory and as far as I know the graphic card of the 360 should also be more powerful; the processor of the PS3 should be better though but if you have only half the memory you can't do that much)...
But I think of buying a PS2. Never had one and now - or at least after PS3 release in Europe - they are not that expensive anymore and after all it has some great games I am interested in (but I had the PS2 controller - is there a possibility to use a wired XBox360 controller?).

[4q2]

Its a difficult question to answer from my own perspective as the two consoles have different selling points.
I wouldnt be without either, but seriously feel that both machines are lacking in the releases dept atm to make any solid decision (The 360 is dissapointing being it as been on the shelves above 12 months now).

If you buy the 360, as everyone has echoed above, Premium pack is the only one worth its salt as the core pack is very crippled until you get the HDD anyway.

[That Guy]

Xbox 360 with Live is so much better than Wii. You either get Zelda on Wii and wait for the next good game which unbelievably is an EA game right now (SSX), or you pick up a 360, grab Halo and Halo 2, and pick up a large selection of excellent games, go on Live and join a community of gamers.

Your choice.

[AshMat]

Depends what kind of experience you're after, i'll state the obvious:
Graphics and kick-ass online play: 360
Innovative and fun gameplay: Wii.

They both have their shar of good games, i think at this point in time you personally would ahve more fun with a 360, as i know what you thought of the DS.

[McMad]

Unless you love Zelda get a 360.

[McPhee]

I had this problem last week and ended up with a Wii. I regret it now :(

1. More games on 360 and they're available cheaply
2. 360 is online
3. There is hardly any price difference between the 2 consoles. Wii bundles are around £240 with 2 games, 360 Premium bundles can be had for around £280 with 2 games
4. Once you look at multiplayer the Wii becomes very expensive, for a full 4 player set-up it costs £195 over and above the price of the console
5. Xbox 360 plays DVDs and other media
6. With the add-on Xbox 360 is the cheapest HD-DVD player around

Im now thinking about selling my Wii, will buy a new one next year

[SimonM7]

Online play or no, right now the 360 has tons of quality software, enough to last you at least a year based on its back catalogue alone. The difference between these two consoles - the significant difference - is that one is a conventional console and the other is new and different, with all pros and cons that come with that.

The Wii has enough fun games at the moment to last you until the next couple of fun games come out, but even then the quality of the software right now and the ones coming in a while won't stand a chance against things like Gears of War and Dead Rising from a *quality* perspective alone. Again though, they're new and different and feel fresh despite their relative mediocreness in some areas - and that's actually enough for some people to PREFER them. (me included)

SO

At the end of the day it's up to your own preference here. Are you sort of semi fed up with conventional games that you've been playing over the last fiveish years - enough to not really be bothered by the same games again with added definition and snazzyness on top? Then the 360 isn't for you. Do you want polished to perfection versions of games that are super predictable to a gamer that's been around for a while? Then you should go for it.

Nintendo were exactly right when they said the Wii is about something new for disillusioned older gamers, and if you fit that description then no drought of software will stop you from enjoying what's there, much more than playing essentially the same games again.

[DiemetriX]

I would also choose the 360. And when there's a dry periode of good games.. buy a Wii :)

[Retro_Link]

I'm facing tne same dilemma right now!

I'm a HUGE Nintendo fan, but at the moment there just aren't many games on Wii that I would get!
The only games would be Zelda and Wario Ware (and possibly Rayman), then there isn't much for a long time apart from Sonic (and possibly SSX and Eledees, but I'm not too fussed with these)!

Then looking into the future there still aren't that many confirmed games I can think of; Though they would all be must buys for me!!

Smash Bros (ages away)
Mario (ages away)
Metroid (ages away?)
Residen Evil (ages away and no news!)
Batallion Wars.

That's about it I think!

I'm really tempted to get a 360 and then a Wii in maybe 6 (or so) months time; though this news to me of the 'new' 360 has really caused a problem!

For the 360 there are alot of current games that I'd look at getting;
PGR3, GOW, Splinter Cell, GRAW, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Lost Planet, Tony Hawks, Kameo, Viva Pinata (maybe), and Halo 1 and 2.

Then there are alot of future games;
Halo 3, GRAW 2, Banjo Kazooie, Resi 5, Too Human, PGR4, Burnout 5, Turok, BIA: Hell's Highway, Virtua Tennis, Alan Wake, Stranglehold, Assassins Creed, HL2: Orange Box, Star Wars: Next Gen, Mass Effect, and probably more aswell!

What to do!! Wii or 360?
Will the revised 360 really be worth the wait?
and what Wii games are gonna be out in the next 6 months?

[ghost_zero]

I don't know if you like RPGs or not but if there is Enchanted Arms already out for XBox360 and Blue Dragon should come out this year in Europe too...
Well: If you think of buying both why don't buy both?
But of course the question is if you shouldn't wait for new XBox360 revision for buying the first of the two consoles...

For Wii will come out Excite Truck next month... And Mortal Combat should also be out soon as far as I know...
The point is just: If you buy a new console WOULD you really buy over 2-3 games at the beginning?

King Boo has the problem that if I understand him right that he will only buy one console at all this console generation and therefore he is looking forward for certain Wii games and wants that "at all price" he necessarily would need to get a Wii...

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

There's a hundred games coming out for the 360 that look like they're worth owning, not to mention all the fantastic games that are currently out. As the Wii enters a dry patch (and considering theres about 4 games coming out for it this year, it doesn't look like the lack of games problem will be getting fixed any time soon) the 360 is looking better than it ever has.
It's without a doubt the best machine i've ever owned.

[Retro_Link]

Well: If you think of buying both why don't buy both?
But of course the question is if you shouldn't wait for new XBox360 revision for buying the first of the two consoles...

The point is just: If you buy a new console WOULD you really buy over 2-3 games at the beginning?I'm not sure I would definately buy both, but then I can't see myself EVER wanting to miss out on Zelda:TP, Zelda Wii and Mario! yet the 360 has so much more to offer at the moment!

Your right in that I wouldn't buy any more than probably 2 games with Wii, so the current games drought wouldn't be a problem for a while;
but then once Zelda is completed I think the games drought will still be going for a long while yet! I can't see myself buying much else (other than maybe Sonic! I don't think Excitetruck will last long) until one of Nintendo's First Party games gets a release and who knows when that will be!

Does anyone have any news on the revised 360? Is it really worth the wait?
Also, there's every chance a 360 wouldn't last 12 months anyway and I could get a revised 360 as a replacement!

[ghost_zero]

Mine is still working and it is now about a year old....

Who knows there might be some other games coming out too...
I am interested in Mortal Combat, Excite Truck and Sonic...
I would also be interested in Prince of Persia if I wouldn't already own The Two Thrones for PC...

But probably it is better to currently by a 360 if you look at the avaiblable games... I believe that the next Nintendo-Games (I mean games by Nintendo itself) will get released for the Wii before summer if not even autumn or winter...

[That Guy]

I still can't believe Reggie answered the games drought question with 'We've got Mario, Metroid, and Smash Bros.'. As if that's enough...

I'm not sure I would definately buy both, but then I can't see myself EVER wanting to miss out on Zelda:TP, Zelda Wii and Mario! yet the 360 has so much more to offer at the moment!

Your right in that I wouldn't buy any more than probably 2 games with Wii, so the current games drought wouldn't be a problem for a while;
but then once Zelda is completed I think the games drought will still be going for a long while yet! I can't see myself buying much else (other than maybe Sonic! I don't think Excitetruck will last long) until one of Nintendo's First Party games gets a release and who knows when that will be!

Does anyone have any news on the revised 360? Is it really worth the wait?
Also, there's every chance a 360 wouldn't last 12 months anyway and I could get a revised 360 as a replacement!

The updated one will simply be running cooler and might have a HDMI port. So not really worth the wait imo. It's not exactly a DS Lite step up in redesign.

[Jordan]

Hmmm..
I love my 360 i really do, but i'd pick my Wii over it.

Its hard to compare, one has been out a year and has established itself... the others just getting started.

Also, at the end of the day, the VC is going to be... billions times better than XBLA.

[Retro_Link]

Hmmm..
I love my 360 i really do, but i'd pick my Wii over it.

Its hard to compare, one has been out a year and has established itself... the others just getting started.

Also, at the end of the day, the VC is going to be... billions times better than XBLA.Very true what you say about the VC, I keep forgetting about that when I think of the games for Wii, when is the UK VC likely to fully establish itself? by getting games such as Zelda: LTTP, Mario Kart 64 and the Donkey Kong Country series etc... because at the moment the UK VC is pretty limited!

It is difficult to compare the Wii and 360 because of how long they've both been out, but other than Zelda, the 'Must Have' titles for Wii seem such a LONG way away and we here such little news/confirmation for them!

[Dilli Gee]

Get an Xbox 360.

[Domstercool]

At this moment in time? The 360 is the better right now. Better online service and alot more better games. Ask again 12 months down the line? Who knows?

[AshMat]

I was thinking a Killer App comparison:

360: Wii:
Halo 3? Mario Galaxy maybe?

[That Guy]

Hmmm..
I love my 360 i really do, but i'd pick my Wii over it.

Its hard to compare, one has been out a year and has established itself... the others just getting started.

Also, at the end of the day, the VC is going to be... billions times better than XBLA.

Well, I don't think billions times better is right. XBLA has games in HD, games with online modes, and essentially new games out on it. The games on VC will all have been seen before.

Most XBLA games are fairly crap, but I will play more of Worms and Geometry Wars than anything on VC.

I think there will be more, better games on VC, but then you have to remember the price of paying for games you've played before with no extras.

[SimonM7]

Killer app?

Xbox 360 - Xbox Live

Wii - Wiimote

[Charlie]

I was thinking a Killer App comparison:

360: Wii:
Halo 3? Mario Galaxy maybe?

Halo 3 will for me be the far better game (although you can't really compare them), I know I'll play Halo 3 at least 10x more than I play Mario Galaxy.

[Daft]

Halo 3 will for me be the far better game (although you can't really compare them), I know I'll play Halo 3 at least 10x more than I play Mario Galaxy.

Same, but I will probably appreciate Mario Galaxy a whole lot more!:heh:

[That Guy]

Halo 3 will for me be the far better game (although you can't really compare them), I know I'll play Halo 3 at least 10x more than I play Mario Galaxy.

Same here, but to be fair Halo 3 will be online.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

My opinion? If you aren't in hurry, just wait. X360 will have price drop sooner or later and 65 nm will be good improvement over old one. With Wii, pretty much same thing. Just wait library to grow and prices go lower. And of course, there is possibility of purchasing PS2 or Xbox to fill gap. Both have many great titles for dirt cheap prices.

[Jordan]

I'd rather have a new Mario game than a Halo 3. Thats honest.

Halo 2 has god damn medicore in terms of an FPS and really really didn't deserve all the praise it got.

[SimonM7]

I think a lot of its praise was psychological waste from not praising Halo 1 enough. EG's 9/10 sure as hell was a "forgive us for the insane 8/10 on the first game!"

[Jordan]

Exactly.
Halo 1 had an amazing and quite epic single player campaign.
Halo 2's as admitted by Bungie was rushed, boring, same room shooting level after level.

Halo 3 better fucking make up for Halo 2.

[SimonM7]

I thought Halo 2's campaign was better than the screaming fans did to be honest. To me the game was never about master chief, so the fact that it ended with The Arbiter's conclusion to the covenant arc wasn't really a problem at all.

I just missed the awe. Awe was what made Halo 1 special beyond its fantastic gameplay, and the gameplay is fantastic-er in Halo 2 in many ways, it just lacks the awe.

Bring back the awe in Halo 3 and it's another hit. Gears was never inspiring on that level anyway, so beating that in the awe department won't be difficult.

[Bowser57]

Halo 2 was an amazing multiplayer game that happened to come with a free single player/co-op game.

Jord's just mad because he's not that great.

[The3rdChildren]

I'd get both. But in terms of great games at the moment, the Wii's best game can be bought on the GameCube, so shoot for 360 points.

[Jordan]

Jord's just mad because he's not that great.

I never particularly liked it, honest. Its just way too floaty, pointless and incredibly unbalanced compared to most FPS i play.

[SimonM7]

Halo 2 was an amazing multiplayer game that happened to come with a free single player/co-op game.

Jord's just mad because he's not that great.

I'm just worried this notion will in itself destroy the possibility of a Halo 1 quality third game.

I wish they'd just separate them, because if they try to be best at both something will suffer. Multiplayer balanced single player weapons craps all over the arsenal progression that makes a cool solo campaign, and the fact that everything has to "work" in multiplayer means that their hands are completely tied for solo and ensures that no wacky surprises will happen.

Dual wield was great for the solo campaign in 2 and people got EACHOTHER'S panties in a bunch over its awfulness in multiplayer. I smell trouble if Bungie "learned from their mistake".

God this is off topic, sorry. :)

[Charlie]

I never particularly liked it, honest. Its just way too floaty, pointless and incredibly unbalanced compared to most FPS i play.

If you'd told us this 2 years ago we might've believed you. :heh:

I always thought it was really balanced, you can put up a good fight with any weapon against any other weapon if you have grenades available.

[Jordan]

If you'd told us this 2 years ago we might've believed you.

I did, its more you just thought i was moaning...

I just wish we could have a factioned multiplayer.
No Spartans and no Elites.
Humans soliders versus Covernant forces of some sort.

[McPhee]

I never particularly liked it, honest. Its just way too floaty, pointless and incredibly unbalanced compared to most FPS i play.

laser sword :heh:

I love that weapon so much, especially on cramped maps. Dont own an Xbox but i could still beat all of my 'amazing' mates who 'did' beat the single player mode on the hardest setting using that weapon.
Last time we played it was 3 on me and i won 20 kills to 4 deaths :laughing:

They better bring that back for Halo 3, maybe a little more balanced though

[Atomic Boo]

I was just reading through the thread and its just so tough! For me there are 10 really good games that will be released for wii, but then again 360 has already been out for a year and theres 20 games that look really cool.
As for Live, i will not be able to use it (how much it is again?) and everyone says that they're useless without it.
Wii has got mario and metroid which i have cravings for, and then theres all of the cool mystery titles you get which surprise you because they come out of the blue. Im definetly not a handheld person, but it seems with consoles (for me) you get much better value. the DS shelf is the same as it was at launch practically, but the gamecube was pretty good i thought.

In the short term, wii is cheaper than the 360, but when you add up the controller costs, virtual console etc it just adds up.

Im just at a total loss right now.

[Charlie]

laser sword :heh:

I love that weapon so much, especially on cramped maps. Dont own an Xbox but i could still beat all of my 'amazing' mates who 'did' beat the single player mode on the hardest setting using that weapon.
Last time we played it was 3 on me and i won 20 kills to 4 deaths :laughing:

They better bring that back for Halo 3, maybe a little more balanced though

It's confirmed to be in Halo 3, but the sword has 'ammo' like it did in the Campaign on Halo 2 even in multiplayer now.

I was just reading through the thread and its just so tough! For me there are 10 really good games that will be released for wii, but then again 360 has already been out for a year and theres 20 games that look really cool.
As for Live, i will not be able to use it (how much it is again?) and everyone says that they're useless without it.


XBL is £40, the price of a game and it will give you so much replay value on all your games. If I had the choice between a game and XBL, I would get XBL.

[4q2]

I was just reading through the thread and its just so tough! For me there are 10 really good games that will be released for wii, but then again 360 has already been out for a year and theres 20 games that look really cool.
As for Live, i will not be able to use it (how much it is again?) and everyone says that they're useless without it.
Wii has got mario and metroid which i have cravings for, and then theres all of the cool mystery titles you get which surprise you because they come out of the blue. Im definetly not a handheld person, but it seems with consoles (for me) you get much better value. the DS shelf is the same as it was at launch practically, but the gamecube was pretty good i thought.

In the short term, wii is cheaper than the 360, but when you add up the controller costs, virtual console etc it just adds up.

Im just at a total loss right now.

Live is about 20 squid if you shop around cos the old Xbox live packs are still being reduced at some retailers (ie. Comet)...I admit I have not yet even bothered to log mine on to transfer my existing live subscription.

As to the amount of titles worth buying, dunno what to say re: my earlier comment....I hate Halo 1 & 2 PGR3 and the range of software on the shelves seems a little bit uninspiring to me atm. The backwards compatibility table looked crap the last time I checked it, Im still waiting for them to add The Warriors and most of my other Xbox collection and Space Giraffe isnt going to be available until about April on Xbox live market place along with Guitar Hero 2 (The only other game that has inspired me to purchase).

Maybe Im just not as easily pleased these days.

[McPhee]

In the short term, wii is cheaper than the 360, but when you add up the controller costs, virtual console etc it just adds up.

Im just at a total loss right now.

Actually, there isnt as big a price difference as you would think.
Once you shop around for bundles the £100 difference in price soon shrinks down, start looking around the £320+ mark and the Xbox 360 actually becomes cheaper!

[DiemetriX]

I never particularly liked it, honest. Its just way too floaty, pointless and incredibly unbalanced compared to most FPS i play.

Halo2 > Any other FPS on xbox

[Sooj]

Get a 360

Get a Wii in a year or something, its cheap plus a lot more AAA games will be out.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Actually, there isnt as big a price difference as you would think.
Once you shop around for bundles the £100 difference in price soon shrinks down, start looking around the £320+ mark and the Xbox 360 actually becomes cheaper!

Actually you are wrong. Xbox 360 games retail for 10 pounds* more than Wii's games, and wireless controllers cost only 5 £ pounds less than wiimote + nunchuk combo. So if you start to buy new games, gap just widens and fast. Of course, I don't know anyone these days who would actively buy their games on full retail price. Doesn't make any sense when stuff comes rather quickly to discount bins.

* 39 vs. 49.

[McPhee]

I was talking about console bundles, the Xbox 360 deals are far better than the Wii ones and actually bring the prices down to just about level.

As you decided to go down this road though:
Wiimote + Nunchuck retails at £45, 360 Wireless controller retails at £33. Bit more than a £5 difference, especially if you add a classic controller on top of that.
New Xbox 360 games might be a little bit more (£40 to the Wii's £35) but again there are some excellent deals around at the moment. Argos are doing 2 for £40 on some brilliant 360 games and Tesco have some good games at £18.

Right now the 360 is the better machine, it has a decent back catalogue of games, many of which are available on the cheap. Microsoft seem to be doing a good job of keeping gamers involved in the community and keeping them informed about what is going on.

The Wii on the other hand has a limited catalogue of games, all at full price. The release radar is looking a bit confused and Nintendo dont seem to be in the mood for telling us what will be happening when (online play, connect24 updates, game releases).

[Charlie]

Actually you are wrong. Xbox 360 games retail for 10 pounds* more than Wii's games, and wireless controllers cost only 5 £ pounds less than wiimote + nunchuk combo. So if you start to buy new games, gap just widens and fast. Of course, I don't know anyone these days who would actively buy their games on full retail price. Doesn't make any sense when stuff comes rather quickly to discount bins.

* 39 vs. 49.

Take a look on Gameplay, they're only £5 more expensive there. Isn't the wireless controller £35 and the Wiimote/nunchuk £45?


Edit - Why did I think 360 games were £37.99 on Gameplay?

[Kurtle Squad]

The problem with the 360 is that the games seem to expect that you have no unonline friends.

[rokhed00]

Edit - Why did I think 360 games were £37.99 on Gameplay?

They did knock a couple of quid off selected 360 games before christmas, stopped doing it now though.

[ghost_zero]

The problem with the 360 is that the games seem to expect that you have no unonline friends.

I don't really know what you mean. I have played Gears Of War, Kameo, ... offline multiplay. No online. I never play online that often, so I don't even bought XBox Live Gold (just silver for some downloads) but that's it...

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

The problem with the 360 is that the games seem to expect that you have no unonline friends.

Bullshit. I've played the 360 and loved it whilst offline (often with frieds round playing multiplayer) on holiday/when my internet fails like it does weekly. I'm not denying the experience is improved when on Live (Not mentioning the fact that the Wii has no online service AT ALL except for Wi-Fi connection. Which is more of a joke than anything else), because it is. But offline or not, the 360 is the way to go.

[ghost_zero]

Well:
The Wii has not yet launched its Internet Playing things so I would say we should wait until that one got released (although I don't think it will be that brilliant but it will do what it shall do connect players to play online - question is just how it does this, lobby or ...)

[Teppo Holmqvist]

I don't really know what you mean. I have played Gears Of War, Kameo, ... offline multiplay. No online. I never play online that often, so I don't even bought XBox Live Gold (just silver for some downloads) but that's it...

Interestingly enough there was discussion about this on Penny-Arcade forums, and yeah, we came to conclusion that that number of games that offer four player split-screen multiplayer mayhem is decreasing in next generation. This is seems to be true no matter what platform is. You find two player games, but four player games seems to be way more rarer.

[Atomic Boo]

Im confused. 1 person said it was £40 and someone else said £20. Which price is right and do you have to pay monthly?



Engadget reports that Microsoft is busy working on a second version of Xbox 360 codenamed 'Zephyer':

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The long rumored about and awaited update to the console won't just feature a new, cooler 65nm processor, it's also finally added an HDMI port for full digital 1080p pleasure, as well as a 120GB drive, just what the doctor ordered

[Kurtle Squad]

Bullshit. I've played the 360 and loved it whilst offline (often with frieds round playing multiplayer) on holiday/when my internet fails like it does weekly. I'm not denying the experience is improved when on Live (Not mentioning the fact that the Wii has no online service AT ALL except for Wi-Fi connection. Which is more of a joke than anything else), because it is. But offline or not, the 360 is the way to go.

It's amazing that so many games only have online multiplayer though ey?:indeed:

[4q2]

Im confused. 1 person said it was £40 and someone else said £20. Which price is right and do you have to pay monthly?

The Xbox live subscription pack is a one off purchase that gives you access for 12 months. You get a card in the pack and validate it online (Like with nintendo star points).

The RRP asking price is about £40, but some places are clearing out their old Xbox stuff and have failed to realise the old live packs are completely valid for 360 Live. If you shop around there is a possibility you can find them still (As I said Comet at last check were doing them for £20 with Splinter cell and a Xbox live headset).

[Bren]

360 is decent for offline and online. Id suggest before even thinking about getting one, if you can get it set-up online. It makes it so much better. When i had no internet for 2 weeks, my 360 didnt get used either.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

It's amazing that so many games only have online multiplayer though ey?:indeed:

What on earth are you on about? :blank:
Plenty of gamers are capable of playing both on and offline games. And the 360 is more capable than the Wii in both departments anyway.

[Fierce_LiNk]

It really depends what you want really. As far as I'm concerned, both machine's offer different things.

Before puchasing a console, I have to ask myself a few questions, such as:

"Will I really enjoy this?"
"Will I definitely be purchasing titles for this machine in a year or two down the line. Beyond?"
"Will others have fun, too?"

When I mean others, I mean multiplayer. It plays a very, very important part of gaming, for me. That's why I value games like Mario Party, or SSB: Melee, and that's for their multiplayer aspect.

If you're really not sure about which machine to purchase, maybe it's best to wait a while for things to pan out a bit, then you'll feel more comfortable spending your money.

Maybe ask yourself a few questions, too. Like I sorta did.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

What on earth are you on about? :blank:

He just simply stated that many games don't have local multiplayer anymore, only online. This is at least partially true.

And the 360 is more capable than the Wii in both departments anyway.

Yoda voice: "specs don't make console". If there isn't really anything worth playing, technical capabilities aren't really worth anything. X360 does have terrific games, and worth the price, but statement like this sounds somewhat stupid to my ear (IMO, of course).

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Yoda voice: "specs don't make console". If there isn't really anything worth playing, technical capabilities aren't really worth anything. X360 does have terrific games, and worth the price, but statement like this sounds somewhat stupid to my ear (IMO, of course).

That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant at all. And it's not what I said either :p
I meant that it already has offline play wraped up. Not that it had the specs had any bearing on which machine was worth owning at the moment.
I couldn't care less about the specs. It's about the games.

[Charlie]

Im confused. 1 person said it was £40 and someone else said £20. Which price is right and do you have to pay monthly?

[/I]

As someone else, you can buy an old Xbox Live Starter Kit for £39.99 which includes a microphone and a few Xbox (not 360) game demos. These aren't actually made anymore and many shops are selling them cheaper than RRP. You can buy subscription cards in either 1, 3 or 12 month options. 1 month is £5.99 (or maybe £4.99), 3 months is £14.99 and 12 months is £39.99, so you're better of getting 12 months.

It's all on www.xbox.com/en-GB/

[Atomic Boo]

Ah cool, that doesnt sound as bad as i thought it would be! cheers guys.
Could someone find me a premium xbox bundle then? cheers for help, everyone is so useful here.

[Noodleman]

http://www.gamestation.co.uk/cat.asp?cat=xbox360&t=hardware

Any of those are pretty good.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Ah cool, that doesnt sound as bad as i thought it would be! cheers guys.
Could someone find me a premium xbox bundle then? cheers for help, everyone is so useful here.

I think that you are little bit too late on that. Biggest and smallest retailers might have some copies lying around, but I'm believing it is lost cause. :hmm:

[Atomic Boo]

http://www.gamestation.co.uk/discountaddall.asp?discountid=115
http://www.gamestation.co.uk/discountaddall.asp?discountid=113
They look tasty.

I think that you are little bit too late on that. Biggest and smallest retailers might have some copies lying around, but I'm believing it is lost cause

how much will it cost me then?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

how much will it cost me then?

I don't know about prices, but finding them can be problematic. Most shops were quickly ransacked when Xbox 360 hit the shelves.

[McPhee]

best deal ive found of late: http://www.shopto.net/page.php?page=dettagli&codart=XB2PR04

That pack probably the best buy around at the moment and available at Gameplay, Woolworths and loads of other retailers for £300. Last time i was in GAME they had bundle deals with this pack in, thing it was £309 with Smackdown

Argos have some good games in 2 for £40 at the moment

EDIT: Next best price i can find, same pack but for £289. http://www.simplygames.com/info/14591/XBox-360-Console--Premium-System-Entertainment-Bundle-XB360
Just in case you dont want to order from ShopTo

[Bowser57]

You'd get the best deal buying instore. I got my 360 with PG3, Live Arcade, an extra pad, and any game (I took GoW, and they gave me the special edition) for £300. On top of that when buying they said I could buy any game for £20. So I got Viva Pinata.

[Retro_Link]

Engadget reports that Microsoft is busy working on a second version of Xbox 360 codenamed 'Zephyer':

Quote:
The long rumored about and awaited update to the console won't just feature a new, cooler 65nm processor, it's also finally added an HDMI port for full digital 1080p pleasure, as well as a 120GB drive, just what the doctor orderedYeah that's the only thing making me question buying a 360 now!
I've been looking around for 360 bundles and there are 2 great ones at play.com;

This is the best one but is currently SOLD OUT! - Worth waiting around for??

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/GENBRW/3-/3294018/XBox_360_Premium_Console_+_Gears_of_War_+_Entertai nment_Pack/Product.html

£299.99 - Premium Console, Gears of War, PGR3, XBox 360 Live Arcade game, 20GB Hard Drive, 2 Wireless Controllers, Headset - Voice Communicator, Component HD AV Cable (with SCART adaptor)

Then there's this one which I think is the same as has been listed before in this thread;

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/GENBRW/3-/3274399/XBox_360_Premium_Console_Entertainment_Bundle/Product.html

[Teppo Holmqvist]

This is the best one but is currently SOLD OUT! - Worth waiting around for??

Don't except it to return for two reasons. First of all, it was holiday bundle. Secondly if something is "SOLD OUT" instead "Out of Stock" in Play.com, it doesn't normally return to selection at all.

[Retro_Link]

Don't except it to return for two reasons. First of all, it was holiday bundle. seconly if something is "SOLD OUT" instead "Out of Stock" in Play.com, it doesn't normally return to selection at all.Yeah I guess! Shame, it was a great deal!

[Atomic Boo]

This isnt out of stock!
http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/PROD/3-/3274399/-/Product.html?add=3274399
its a lush deal

[Retro_Link]

This isnt out of stock!
http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/PROD/3-/3274399/-/Product.html?add=3274399
its a lush dealYeah that's the other one I posted; that's not out of stock, but the one that is, is all that, plus GOW!

[Atomic Boo]

12 months xbox live for £34.99 @ play - oh, out of stock

[AshMat]

By May 1st (spending no money whatsoever), i will have enough money for this:
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11341&mid=329899


*sigh*

[Atomic Boo]

By May 1st (spending no money whatsoever), i will have enough money for this:
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11341&mid=329899


*sigh*

it doesnt look like it includes a controller... :woops:
do you already have a 360? or just a wii?

[Retro_Link]

By May 1st (spending no money whatsoever), i will have enough money for this:
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11341&mid=329899


*sigh*Are the Play.com deals not better? because you get 2 controllers (1 additional) and 2 games, plus the Xbox LIVE arcade game thing, all for £289.99.

More for Less!

[Atomic Boo]

I bet somewhere on the horizon, there's a mega deal going on but all of us cant find it. I will find that deal!

[flameboy]

Are the Play.com deals not better? because you get 2 controllers (1 additional) and 2 games, plus the Xbox LIVE arcade game thing, all for £289.99.

More for Less!

there was a better deal than that doing the rounds at some point, had table tennis instead of the live arcade thing.

at hmv they have some good bundles, GOW free with it, you may have to ask though as they don't all seem to have it displayed.

[Retro_Link]

Some more bundles, but currently ToysRUs All out of stock!

£319.97
Extra Wireless controller,
GOW, PGR3, NBA 2K6, LIVE arcade
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/truhome/truvideogames/truvideogamesxbox360/truvideogamesxbox360consoles/946737

Same as above but COD3 instead of GOW
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/truhome/truvideogames/truvideogamesxbox360/truvideogamesxbox360consoles/946745

£379.99
6 games
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/truhome/truvideogames/truvideogamesxbox360/truvideogamesxbox360consoles/941557

£399.99
Extra Wireless Controller
7 games
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/truhome/truvideogames/truvideogamesxbox360/truvideogamesxbox360consoles/947806

I'm not sure how good a saving the last bundle is, though not all the games are the greatest!

Currys.co.uk - In Stock

£299.00
Gears of War, Rainbow Six: Vegas
http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1972961892.117018622 0@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccekaddjmdehmhdcflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&page=Product&sku=471053

Two very new and currently expensive games included!

[Atomic Boo]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XBOX-360-PREMIUM-XTREME-15-GAMES_W0QQitemZ250075944604QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1128 48QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
looks okay, but the seller may be scam...

[Retro_Link]

12 Months Xbox Live Gold - £34.99

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/575525

[McPhee]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XBOX-360-PREMIUM-XTREME-15-GAMES_W0QQitemZ250075944604QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1128 48QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
looks okay, but the seller may be scam...

i think that is a chipped console and those games are copies...


My 360 is coming on Thursday. Second hand but got Premium + Extra Wireless Controller + Rainbow 6 + Live Arcade + 11 Months of Xbox Live + Reciept. Only cost me my Wii, Zelda and Wii Play (including remote). Basically £240

Pretty good deal i think, traded in my GC + DS for a Wii, played it for a week and then swapped it for a better deal on a 360 than Gamestation could offer me in the first place.

Just got to get saving up for another Wii now, got from now until the day Smash Bros is released!

[AshMat]

I couldn't actually find the Xbox360 consoles on Play, that's why i posted the GAME one.

[Atomic Boo]

do you get more money off with straight console swaps? im gonna sell my cube - bar metroids and paper M

[Charlie]

do you get more money off with straight console swaps? im gonna sell my cube - bar metroids and paper M

Yeah, but you'll be lucky to get more than £20 for your Cube.

[Atomic Boo]

Yeah, but you'll be lucky to get more than £20 for your Cube.

games as well. i reckon i could get £100 + selling my cube and its games on ebay.

[AshMat]

how many, and what games?

[McPhee]

i got £200 for my Cube, 8 games, 4 controllers (all official, 1 wavebird), 1 memory 59, 1 memory 256, DS, Mario 64 DS, Advance Wars 1, F-Zero: Maximum Velocity, Battlefield 2 and Dawn of War.

Not the best deal ever, wish i'd sold on forums rather than to Gamestation now. Just didnt see that door, only Gamestation or Ebay (who i wont use)

[Charlie]

it doesnt look like it includes a controller... :woops:
do you already have a 360? or just a wii?

All 360s come with a controller, a wired one with the Core and wireless with Premium.

i got £200 for my Cube, 8 games, 4 controllers (all official, 1 wavebird), 1 memory 59, 1 memory 256, DS, Mario 64 DS, Advance Wars 1, F-Zero: Maximum Velocity, Battlefield 2 and Dawn of War.

Not the best deal ever, wish i'd sold on forums rather than to Gamestation now. Just didnt see that door, only Gamestation or Ebay (who i wont use)

When did you sell it?

[Atomic Boo]

how many, and what games?

about 12 games, 4 controllers - 1 official, 3 unofficial. 2 mem cards.
cant list all of the games atm.

[THE ganondorflol]

I bet somewhere on the horizon, there's a mega deal going on but all of us cant find it. I will find that deal!

That's the kind of attitude I like to see in woman!

[AshMat]

That's the kind of attitude I like to see in woman!

What the hell are you about?


Also, am i right in thinknig those bundles for 299 with 2 games are premium consoles?

[Atomic Boo]

What the hell are you about?


Also, am i right in thinknig those bundles for 299 with 2 games are premium consoles?

you would most certainly be correct.
I think im going to wait it out for a few months before i decide what to buy.

P.S whats wrong with THEganondorf? strange... i dont get him

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

You'd be very lucky to get £100 for your Cube mate. I got £100 for my limited edition Resi Cube and 20 games over a year ago.
And THEGanondorf is either a fake account or very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very stupid.
I hope it's the former :)

[THE ganondorflol]

It is the former- I only created it for a laugh and to randomly laugh at people like now- Hahahahahahahahahahaha Cox Of Seagulls!

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

It is the former- I only created it for a laugh and to randomly laugh at people like now- Hahahahahahahahahahaha Cox Of Seagulls!

Helen Keller finally bought a computer :D

[Atomic Boo]

Helen Keller finally bought a computer :D
harsh but true.

[ultrajamie]

get a 360.... you can get halo3, gears of war, bio shock, mass effect, fable 2, half life ep2 compliation, lost planet, forza 2 - to name but a few.

I sold my 360 to get a wii... i've never regretted anything more in my life.

good news is, my wii will go for a good whack on ebay, so i should get what i paid for it.

[Atomic Boo]

get a 360.... you can get halo3, gears of war, bio shock, mass effect, fable 2, half life ep2 compliation, lost planet, forza 2 - to name but a few.

I sold my 360 to get a wii... i've never regretted anything more in my life.

good news is, my wii will go for a good whack on ebay, so i should get what i paid for it.
did you go online with yours?

[ultrajamie]

did you go online with yours?

yes with both...

the 360's online environment is brilliant.

it's not untill you play a ps3 and realise how awkward it can be... that you realise MS got it right.

[AshMat]

I think i may seel my cube on ebay. I can get about 30-40 for all the stuff after looking it up. Also might sell a couple of DS games.
I seriously want one now.

[Atomic Boo]

I think i may seel my cube on ebay. I can get about 30-40 for all the stuff after looking it up. Also might sell a couple of DS games.
I seriously want one now.

honestly, dont sell your cube! youll hate yourself for doing it, and when you think about it, the £30-40 isnt really that important. in a way it wouldnt be getting money, because youd probably get the game/s you want even if you dont sell it so if you think about it it wont make a difference even if you pick up the money or not.
dunno if you understand where im coming from or not, but just dont!

[ultrajamie]

I think i may seel my cube on ebay. I can get about 30-40 for all the stuff after looking it up. Also might sell a couple of DS games.
I seriously want one now.

honestly, dont sell your cube! youll hate yourself for doing it, and when you think about it, the £30-40 isnt really that important. in a way it wouldnt be getting money, because youd probably get the game/s you want even if you dont sell it so if you think about it it wont make a difference even if you pick up the money or not.
dunno if you understand where im coming from or not, but just dont!


NAH - just cut your loses and run... sell the cube and pretend it never happened. After all, thats what nintendo have done.

[AshMat]

Im keeping the wavebird, if i ever want to replay some cube games, ill jsut use my Wii. I jsut never play it anymore.

[The Bard]

Get a 360, even though I don't have one, I'd definately reccomend it over the Wii at this point in time...I just had to try out the wii, and it lived up to my expectations...just not for very long, since there are only 2 games really worth playing.

[Atomic Boo]

Get a 360, even though I don't have one, I'd definately reccomend it over the Wii at this point in time...I just had to try out the wii, and it lived up to my expectations...just not for very long, since there are only 2 games really worth playing.

hey! bardus has come to join in the 360 discussion. Hi!
but yeah, in this moment of time 360 is the better option. Its just some games on wii you will just HAVE to play.

[The Bard]

hey! bardus has come to join in the 360 discussion. Hi!
but yeah, in this moment of time 360 is the better option. Its just some games on wii you will just HAVE to play.

Of course, but there are also games on 360 that have to be played. I think the safe option is getting both, but if you can't for whatever reason, then I guess you're stuck with an incredibly awkward choice.

[Atomic Boo]

Of course, but there are also games on 360 that have to be played. I think the safe option is getting both, but if you can't for whatever reason, then I guess you're stuck with an incredibly awkward choice.

i think ill get a 360, play it for a few years, then sell it and buy a wii. i think i can wait. (dunno about metroid though...)

[McPhee]

Argos are selling the 360 for £250 at the moment (think it ends Tuesday).

Also, Xbox Live for £33:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-Live-month-Gold-Membership/dp/B000B5KMSE/

Theres a 10% off code for Choices doing the rounds at the moment, makes it the cheapest place around for most stuff

[Retro_Link]

Argos are selling the 360 for £250 at the moment (think it ends Tuesday).No because you have to buy the console with the mega pack, which is a bit rubbish really; can't see many wanting it!

[THE ganondorflol]

get a 360.... you can get halo3, gears of war, bio shock, mass effect, fable 2, half life ep2 compliation, lost planet, forza 2 - to name but a few.

I sold my 360 to get a wii... i've never regretted anything more in my life.

good news is, my wii will go for a good whack on ebay, so i should get what i paid for it.

haha, what a total and utter idiot, you sold a crap console for a great one and regret it? You probarbly didn't mean that as you may not be able to speak proper English. But, you pratt, I'll let you off for now...

[The fish]

haha, what a total and utter idiot, you sold a crap console for a great one and regret it? You probarbly didn't mean that as you may not be able to speak proper English. But, you pratt, I'll let you off for now...
You are a knob.



At least he can spell, unlike you ('Haha' and 'probably'), and he doesn't annoy everyone on this site.:hmm:

Oh, and judging by the games available atm, and the online, the 360 is definitely better than the Wii at the moment...

Oh, and please don't insult people for no reason.

[THE ganondorflol]

I know you love me really, and I did not offend anyone, I just spoke the truth. I know I am annoying, but hey, that' my personality, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

[The fish]

I know you love me really, and I did not offend anyone, I just spoke the truth. I know I am annoying, but hey, that' my personality, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

Idiot, you don't know the difference between 'truth' and 'opinion'.
You should go and sit in a hole and die.

[The Bard]

I know you love me really, and I did not offend anyone, I just spoke the truth. I know I am annoying, but hey, that' my personality, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

360 is a fantastic console, anyone who has been playing games for long enough can see that.

[fanman]

and I did not offend anyone,

Although I don't think anyone takes any of what you say seriously, you called him a "total and utter idiot", which doesn't help your situation, especially when you go on to justify your claim with an opinion that I think most people would disagree with at the moment.

[THE ganondorflol]

The war will only be between the PS3 and the Wii. You guys only love the 360 because of online play and it has games in where you 'shoot people'. Get lives, it isn't real, don't get worked up over nothing is what I say.

[fanman]

The war will only be between the PS3 and the Wii. You guys only love the 360 because of online play and it has games in where you 'shoot people'. Get lives, it isn't real, don't get worked up over nothing is what I say.

I don't even own a 360, but it really is quality. The controller is one of the best around, there are tonnes of awesome games out for it, which is more than the wii has at the moment. The ps3 is too expensive for a games console (though worth the money) and the wii doesn't have that many great games for it (at the moment at least).

You're the one who needs a life.

[The fish]

You're the one who needs a life.

I second that.
A brain might come in handy too...

[khilafah]

i had this problem and got the 360. The Wii just doesnt have the games and the release schedule is not that great. I am not gonna get a Wii till metroid and mario galaxy are released. the DS gets me more excited than the Wii and thats no joke..

the only downside with the 360 is the rip off wireless adaptor. i refuse too pay £60 for something which should of been free.

i got 3 month xbox live subscription and love it man!

[McPhee]

Got my 360 today! Game did Premium + Smackdown vs Raw + PGR3 + Live Arcade + Extra Official Wireless Controller for £300. Only had 1 360 left, the box was bashed to bits so talked the guy into giving me £10 worth of reward points. Then went to Argos and bought Oblivion and Ghost Recon.

Loving it so far! PGR3 and GRAW are great, Raw is ok. Just loaded up Oblivion, looks pretty cool

Got 2 1 month Xbox Live vouchers and 1 48 hour voucher so that should keep me online for a while!

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Hey Ganon, you're a non sensical **** who doesn't know what he's talking about.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Yamcha666/cut.jpg

[The fish]

Got my 360 today! Game did Premium + Smackdown vs Raw + PGR3 + Live Arcade + Extra Official Wireless Controller for £300. Only had 1 360 left, the box was bashed to bits so talked the guy into giving me £10 worth of reward points. Then went to Argos and bought Oblivion and Ghost Recon.

Loving it so far! PGR3 and GRAW are great, Raw is ok. Just loaded up Oblivion, looks pretty cool

Got 2 1 month Xbox Live vouchers and 1 48 hour voucher so that should keep me online for a while!

Cool, but if you like Live, buy a 12 month subscription, it's cheaper.

[That Guy]

Got my 360 today! Game did Premium + Smackdown vs Raw + PGR3 + Live Arcade + Extra Official Wireless Controller for £300. Only had 1 360 left, the box was bashed to bits so talked the guy into giving me £10 worth of reward points. Then went to Argos and bought Oblivion and Ghost Recon.

Loving it so far! PGR3 and GRAW are great, Raw is ok. Just loaded up Oblivion, looks pretty cool

Got 2 1 month Xbox Live vouchers and 1 48 hour voucher so that should keep me online for a while!

Switch, whats your gamertag? We should be having a forum game of PGR3 soon, so add everyone! And join the 360 thread. It's where the cool people hang out. :santa:

[McPhee]

Switch, whats your gamertag? We should be having a forum game of PGR3 soon, so add everyone! And join the 360 thread. It's where the cool people hang out. :santa:

cheers for the invite :grin:

Not got a gamertag yet. Gotten myself hooked on Oblivion and spent the whole time i was supposed to be setting up Live on that!

I'll put it in my sig when i get it :)

Cool, but if you like Live, buy a 12 month subscription, it's cheaper.

Cheaper than free? Those were just the bundled live vouchers, gonna get a Live card when they run out. Handy really, means i can spend the money Live would have cost me on another game :grin:

[Charlie]

I think those free things are trials, meaning you can only start an account using those but not add time onto it. You get 1 month free Live when you make an account as standard.

[The fish]

Cheaper than free?

Yes, they pay you to take it off them .;)

Seriously, it's much cheaper than buying enough games to keep the 48 hour free trial running non-stop, or buying Live by the month, or for 3 months.

[Atomic Boo]

PLaying the waiting game is annoying. I cant wait to have a 360 on show in my room. Gonna look cool.

[THE ganondorflol]

Yes you are my friend. Very cool, but very skint.

[The fish]

Yes you are my friend. Very cool, but very skint.

Not really.

Not as skint as he would have been if he had bought a P$3 instead...

[The Constantine]

Yes you are my friend. Very cool, but very skint.

The truth has been told.:laughing:

[Atomic Boo]

yeah, like the fish said, not as skint as if i bought a ps3
and the wii is actually more expensive at the moment, with controllers being really expensive, virtual console, and no games at bargain prices, so i will be less skint

[AshMat]

The war will only be between the PS3 and the Wii. You guys only love the 360 because of online play and it has games in where you 'shoot people'. Get lives, it isn't real, don't get worked up over nothing is what I say.

It's more likely to be between 360 and Wii with the way the ps3 is sellnig at the moment, but things can stil change.

"Get lives", what bullshit is this?

[The Bard]

There is no "war" and even if there is, it bears no relevance to gamers...any animosity between console manufacturers only leads to better games for everyone. We have nothing to complain about. Taking sides is pointless and of no use to anyone.

[Atomic Boo]

There is no "war" and even if there is, it bears no relevance to gamers...any animosity between console manufacturers only leads to better games for everyone. We have nothing to complain about. Taking sides is pointless and of no use to anyone.

yeah, why does it matter who wins the 'console war'. just buy the damned things and see which one you prefer, instead of sweating about whether nintendo will outdo microsoft in sales.

[That Guy]

There is no "war" and even if there is, it bears no relevance to gamers...any animosity between console manufacturers only leads to better games for everyone. We have nothing to complain about. Taking sides is pointless and of no use to anyone.

Totally correct my red font friend, as I found out by only owning a Gamecube last time round (kind of down to cash though, I'm working now). Now I buy whatever I feel like playing.

[AshMat]

As gamers we SHOULD keep an eye on what's selling more. If in the case of the GameCube, developers pull out support, and the console gets less and less good games.

[fanman]

You are an i.d.i.o.t. Wii's are so much better than 360's. Wii's have better games! If ya sell it (you nob) I hope someone offers 1p sucka!!

That's what he was saying, and at the moment, the 360 has better games. I'm very sure that this will change ones the wii get's more software, but there really aren't enough top quality games out on the wii right now to justify your claims.

[Atomic Boo]

can someone give me some in-game screenshots from lost planet, gears of war and oblivion and any other good games that are out for 360 at the moment please?

[That Guy]

IGN or Gamespot are the best place to see a load of screenshots.

[Calza]

But remember if you don't have a HD tv they arn't going to look as good.

[Atomic Boo]

But remember if you don't have a HD tv they arn't going to look as good.

My friends that have 360's dont have HDTVs but it still looks really good. Does it really make it a whole lot better?

[Charlie]

Yes you are my friend. Very cool, but very skint.

It's cheaper than the Wii if you get a good bundle. You can get a 360 with 2 games and an extra controller for £300. A Wii with 2 games and an extra wiimote/nunchuck is £305.

My friends that have 360's dont have HDTVs but it still looks really good. Does it really make it a whole lot better?

It makes the picture so much sharper and clearer, but it still lookks amazing on a normal TV. I have to use a 14" beast and it still looks really good, the text is a little bit small though, when I use it on the 21 incher I have it looks even better.

[McPhee]

My friends that have 360's dont have HDTVs but it still looks really good. Does it really make it a whole lot better?

It makes a big difference but the 360 doesnt exactly suffer in Standard Def. It looks amazing on my dads 42" plasma but even on my 15" CRT Oblivion is still the most beautiful game ive ever played!

Ironically the only console ive ever found to suffer on a small screen is the Wii, it just felt clumbsy on a 15" portable

[Retro_Link]

IGN's take on the much rumoured updated Xbox 360;

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/763/763427p1.html

Xbox 360 v.2 Back In Black?

HDMI-capable Xbox 360 to see possible release in April.

US, February 9, 2007 - The Internet is alive with rumors! Today we hear that Australia is getting a black Xbox 360 replete with 120GB hard drive and HMDI port this April, according to Gaming Website Gamers' Reports latest story. The Website recently asserted it is "100% official" that a black Xbox 360 with 120GB hard drive and an HDMI port is coming this April.

Naturally, Microsoft PR representatives have a different story. "We have not made any official announcements regarding any such product at this time. Obviously, were we to announce something like this, it would have to be in a blowout press event, rather than by confirming a rumor."

The truth? Microsoft has tried to beat a very similar rumor down for quite a while now. At CES 2007, actual images appeared online showing the HDMI port. While Microsoft hasn't made any official statements on the subject, the company certainly wants to compete with Sony's PS3 feature for feature. Last fall it released the $199 HD-DVD peripheral. It's finally making 1080p games, and Microsoft told IGN at CES that if there is enough demand for an HDMI port and a bigger hard drive, they'll deliver it.

The Xbox 360 is customizable enough to make such an upgrade easily possible, and images from CES all but confirmed the existence of this Xbox 360 version 2. The stickler issue, however, is what happens to the 10.4 million people who already own an Xbox 360? Buying another hard drive is moderately reasonable, but the only way to make HDMI happen on an Xbox 360 is to have an HDMI input. Hopefully, we will hear a "blowout" announcement about Microsoft's future plans for this product soon enough.I wish Microsoft would hurry up and confirm this news!!

If there is an updated console and Australia get it as soon as April, I might as well wait and import one!

If there is no updated 360 (or not for a long time at least) then I'd be buying one now! Or as soon as a great bundle is available!

Instead, it's really annoying having to wait on this news, wasting valuable weeks to catch on up all the great games I've missed!

[That Guy]

Seriously, just get one now, I don't think any update will really be anything 'must have' anyway.

[Charlie]

I don't really see how they can release an updated one without pissing of the 10 million people who already own it. Maybe they'll have some sort of trade-in option...

[That Guy]

They should just leave it. Bring out a bigger hard drive and just sell that. If 360 really needed a HDMI port they should have put one in from the beginning.

This will be nothing more than a move that pisses off current owners and make them go for Playstation next time round.

[AshMat]

I'm starting my sell-out of games and stuff, ill be able to afford mine a week before April :D I r happy.

[Charlie]

Sell your Wii and buy it now, you seriously wont regret it.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Sell your Wii and buy it now, you seriously wont regret it.

I agree with this man.

[That Guy]

Sell your Wii and buy it now, you seriously wont regret it.

I bet he would. In 2 months he'll have both systems, rather than having to rebuy a Wii when he wants games for it again.

It's not that much of a wait and the games will still be there for you to buy when you do get one.

[AshMat]

Yeah im not getting rid of my wii, for a start im getting excite truck next week. I'll want it again when metroid, mario, etc. Come out.

[The Bard]

Why would anyone want to sell their Wii? It's been, what 2 months since it came out, and you're already expecting it to have everything that was promised for the whole of 2007. Get Warioware, or Red Steel, and most importantly: get some fucking friends, cause it's no fun otherwise.

[AshMat]

I have WarioWAre (but it's now on ebay), i also traded in Red Steel, they're fun games, but even Wario had no replay.

Can someone do a good bit of scouring for me? Im buying my console in store, Game, Gamestation, HMV, etc. Someone get me a goodle bundle between 300-320\?

[McPhee]

Sell your Wii and buy it now, you seriously wont regret it.

I sold mine. I dont regret it. :wink:

I have WarioWAre (but it's now on ebay), i also traded in Red Steel, they're fun games, but even Wario had no replay.

Can someone do a good bit of scouring for me? Im buying my console in store, Game, Gamestation, HMV, etc. Someone get me a goodle bundle between 300-320\?

Went through all this myself last Monday so prices should still be the same.

Best deals on the high street were:

Game: Premium + PGR3 + Live Arcade + Extra Wireless Pad + Either WWE or Tomb Raider. £299

Currys: Premium + GoW + R6: Vegas. £299. They also do a "Buy any 2 official accessories and save £10

I went for the Game deal with WWE because i'd already bought GRAW and Oblivion. Good selection of games, WWE is a little weak though. If i could go back i'd have got Tomb Raider instead.

[Atomic Boo]

Game: Premium + PGR3 + Live Arcade + Extra Wireless Pad + Either WWE or Tomb Raider. £299
that look tasty! id definetly go with Tomb Raider, WWE games bore the hell outta me, they're too slow.

[AshMat]

Should have mine in a week now, all the games i'm selling will be sold by tommorow morning, and every time i sell a game and enter a new number in my spreadsheet, my target drops by a week.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Should have mine in a week now, all the games i'm selling will be sold by tommorow morning, and every time i sell a game and enter a new number in my spreadsheet, my target drops by a week.

Make sure you join in the weekly Phoenix friday over at Eurofusion mate.
Best times you can have on a 360.

[Atomic Boo]

My opinion is changing now, just gut feeling, i think im leaning slightly towards wii now.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

7 pages of people screaming "Buy a 360! The Wii isn't worth it!" and you decide to get a Wii :heh:

[Atomic Boo]

7 pages of people screaming "Buy a 360! The Wii isn't worth it!" and you decide to get a Wii :heh:

well its my decision at the end of the day, and ill get what i think is right for me. im still unsure, and this isnt my final decision. i may still get a 360, but just because about 6 people are saying to get a 360 in this board doesnt mean ill get it.

[The Bard]

If you're getting a Wii, at least wait until Batallion Wars or Metroid comes out, cause you might get bored of whats out there right now. Zelda is admittedly fantastic, but there ain't much else.

[Atomic Boo]

If you're getting a Wii, at least wait until Batallion Wars or Metroid comes out, cause you might get bored of whats out there right now. Zelda is admittedly fantastic, but there ain't much else.

Yeah thats what i would do. The current state of games isnt enough to buy one now, there should be a few good bundles by the time metroid is out, maybe even different style/colour wiis or wii-motes. and i can cope without new games for a while.

[AshMat]

Get a 360 then, get it now, lots of games. Rather than holding out for half a year for the Wii to have 2 more good games.

[McMad]

I'm selling my PSP and stuff to afford this, I'll see if I can get it for mega cheap at Makro, but the real problem is convincing my dad to let me get another console. :hmm:

Maybe If I also sell my old Xbox and get it after my end of year and exams and do well in my Music exams everything will be cool.

That will also give me a chance to save for games, and accessories.

[Atomic Boo]

Get a 360 then, get it now, lots of games. Rather than holding out for half a year for the Wii to have 2 more good games.
well im completely fine by waiting. i dont know what to get at the moment.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Get a 360 then, get it now, lots of games. Rather than holding out for half a year for the Wii to have 2 more good games.

Now if the tables were turned and a Nintendo fan said that, they'd get called a fanboy.

[Jordan]

I'd say, get both.
Honestly, its the best of both worlds and i know I shouldn't have suggest that... but there ya go.

[Stefkov]

Well Jordan is right, get both. Both good games machines. Different, interesting games for both.
But get the 360 first.
Online, superb games, friends lists etc. All worth the £270 for a premium.
360 has the fun deep involving games, that will last you well over 100 hours. I went on Oblivion and I had played 44 hours of it. I've not even done much of the main storyline.
Wii got good party games, fun short spell games.

[Daft]

Yea, get both...but get the 360 first since the Wii won't really get in full flow for about a year, a bit like the DS! Plus you have a year of awesome, and now cheap, 360 games to catch up on. That basically what I've been doing since I got my 360 about 6 weeks ago!