iPod Video tonight?

[Charlie]

Rumours are suggesting (again) that the iPod Video will be announced tonight at 6PM (UK time).

ThinkSecret previously reported that tomorrow's event would bring 40GB/80GB iPods as well as Powerbook and PowerMac updates... but no Video iPod.

The rumor site amends its previous report with notes that the iPod updates may instead be 30GB/60GB iPods with video playback ability. They are quick to point out that video playback may only focus on music videos, podcasts and possibly TV, but unlikely to feature full length films. (at first).

Source: Mac Rumors (http://www.macrumors.com)

Will be a nice price tag on that I think. £300 for the 30GB?

[Jordan]

Hmmm... didn't they say that untill they got distrubution rights they wouldn't be making a video ipod? Simply because it wouldn't take off?

[Schpickles]

rumour is that its Music Videos, video podcasts and trailers at this stage... remains to be seen.

We'll find out tonight :D

[CVD]

To be honest, I wouldn't really be that interested in having music videos on my iPod. I've got plenty of video clips (no, not that type) that I'd love to be able to watch on-the-go. I think the new iPod may have a 'video out' port where you can hook it up to a TV source and watch the movies or whatever though a TV, instead of the tiny iPod screen.

I'd probably pay about £250 for a video iPod.

[DS MaNiAc]

iLounge Exclusive: New iPod revealed
iLounge has snapped exclusive photos of advertisements for the new iPod, which will be introduced today at Apple's "One more thing" event in San Jose, California. The familiar silhouette posters clearly show an all-new iPod model with a noticeably larger display, approximately 2.4 to 2.6 inches diagonal, compared to the current full-size iPod's 2-inch screen. Also of note, the headphone jack has been moved from the top-center to the top-right side of the device
http://live.ilounge.com/ilounge-ipod.jpg
http://live.ilounge.com/ilounge-ipod-2.jpg

This is a 'leaked' picture (could be fake, buts its new and fits the description posted on iLounge).
http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000048938.JPG

links: http://live.ilounge.com/ and http://www.engadget.com/

Sweet.

[Haver]

Well, it's an iPod with video capabilities.

[kyletherobot]

looks like an ipod but chunkier and with a prettier colour screen.

[DS MaNiAc]

Prettier screen? Yes. Chunkier? HELL NO: The new iPod will be 30% thinner than the current 20GB iPod!

New iPod announced! The new iPod, as speculated, features video capabilities and the wider display, but it’s still a music-first device.

The device will feature a 2.5-inch display, QVGA resolution (320 x 240), and will MPEG-4 h.264 (natch), and presumably Quicktime.

The new iPod will be 30% thinner than the current 20GB iPod (making it 0.44-inches thick—say wha?), and will feature a 60GB version (which should be thinner than the current 0.63-inch thick 20GB iPod), and editions of both in black.

The 20GB should go for $299, and the 60GB for $399. They’ll be shipping next week.

What’s the device named, you ask? The iPod. That’s it, just The iPod. Well spare you the Prince jokes. The iPod will have TV out.

Stevie has iTunes 6.0 up there—only about a month after introducing iTunes 5.0.

iTunes 6.0 will also feature video and the iTunes Music Store will feature video downloads (big surprise, right?)—at launch over 2,000 music videos will be made available at a cost of $1.99 apiece.

[Charlie]

Woot!!! :D:D:D:D

[DS MaNiAc]

Yeah, considering:

20 gig = $299 = £175
60 gig = $399 = £230

Woot indeed, woot indeed.....

Oh, and heres an image of it from the side:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lucasrag/pics/ipod2.jpg

And if that aint enough for ya......
It’s not only music videos you can buy. No, Apple’s set up to allow you to purchase TV shows for $1.99 apiece. Get Desperate Housewives or four other ABC shows premiering on iTunes at two bucks an ep. Videos are native QVGA resolution.

w000000t

[Charlie]

Yeah, considering:

20 gig = $299 = £175
60 gig = $399 = £230




Those are the current prices in America, but we get them for £210 and £300 (I think, can't remember, the store is being updated). Educational discount brings it down to £190 though.

ABC shows = Lost!!!

[DS MaNiAc]

Yeah, its gay that we pay more, but hey theres always importing =D

[Ramar]

Wait...so they're scrapping what is the iPod at the moment and replacing it with iPod (with video) for the same price?

Thats not good for me. I wanted the current iPod for Christmas. If they're scrapping it people will want the new one, it will be helluva popular..

Here's some info.

Uk Info (http://www.apple.com/uk/ipod/ipod.html)

"Again. In lighter, thinner 30GB and 60GB models starting at just £219 (UK) / €329 (Ireland) including VAT, the new iPod is music to your eyes."

[DS MaNiAc]

What a rip....around 40 odd quid more? Pffffffft. Thats just gay.

and wooot it has 20 hours battery life!!!

[Ramar]

Its £10 more.. Old iPod was £209.

[DS MaNiAc]

Compared to the prices of the iPod in america....not the old iPod....

[Charlie]

Don't import. Customs wont be nice.

[DS MaNiAc]

Cant add more than £40 though....could they?

[Charlie]

Cant add more than £40 though....could they?

My friend bought a Mini from America and got it with £40... I wouldn't take the risk. Use the educational discount and get the 30gb for £200

[Ramar]

Educational discount!!

w00t

Think I'll be getting one of these for Christmas.

[dukkadukka]

wow! i'm so getting one for christmas :) thanks for telling me about this guys!

[Charlie]

I'm getting one for Christmas too :D

[DanielTimothy]

Educational discount!!

Hate to sound the n00b and all but what is this 'Educational discount' ??

Getting one for christmas! Its only 20 quid more than a nano 4GB?!

[Jordan]

How the hell can they justify that?!
£20 more for much more storage, battery and a bigger screen?

[Oli1983uk]

A event was held in london at BBC television center today for the IPOD video, I have had to take all the stuff out there studios for it. thou I havent been able to get my hands on one! thou i am keeping an eye out!

[CVD]

Best news I've heard all week, can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

[Domstercool]

That's pretty sweet. Although I don't need one myself since I've got a 30GB music player and a PSP which does vid on a nice widescreen. Nice for the people who haven't though.

[Charlie]

To get the educational discount.
Go to
www.apple.com/uk/thestore
at the right hand side there are 3 links;
"Education"
"Business"
"something else"

Click on education, choose your country
"Apple Store for Education
click above link
or call 0800 039 1010"
Click on that one. Type in your school/uni. and off you go :)

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukInd

[DanielTimothy]

Thanks Moria! :)

'Up to 2 hours of video playback' Bolocks!

[Schpickles]

How the hell can they justify that?!
£20 more for much more storage, battery and a bigger screen?
...combined with the use of iTunes store for video...

Why keep flaming Apple stuff? Do you get Apple fans flaming in PC "OMG Windows died / needs another security patch..." threads? Just leave it be... we get the picture - you [personally] don't put form factor over functionality, and don't like Apple products... message recieved. How about just leaving those of us that do like Apple's stuff to discuss Apple products without this constant fanboyism?

[Chris_Mac]

It doesn't sound like he's flaming Apple stuff at all. Just that he's saying that Apple shouldn't really be selling the Nano for only £20 less than the much better new iPod.

Well that's what I think anyways.

(P.s. sorry if you're a girl Jordan, just change all the "he's" to "she's")

[Schpickles]

Oh right... I read it as "they've not really added anything new, just upped the specs and added more to the price"

Sorry if I misunderstood :/

[craig]

It doesn't sound like he's flaming Apple stuff at all. Just that he's saying that Apple shouldn't really be selling the Nano for only £20 less than the much better new iPod.


Go and read some the posts by Jordan in the other threads and you will understand Schpickles comments.

[Chris_Mac]

Fair enough he might be anti-Apple, but wasn't here. I think Apple needs some constructive critcism though, otherwise they'll be able to get away with murder (a la Microsoft) and release obviously broken products like the iPod Nano. Remember, at the end of the day we don't need them, but they sure as hell need us.

[wooks63]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. My MP3 player (iRiver H340) has been able to play videos for ages now. Just looks like Apple trying to play 'catch up' to me, yet somehow the media think its revolutionary. Show's how little they really know.

Unrelated to this thread, but related to my last comment, the media keep going on about the X360, and also watch out for the playstation 3, but they never ever mention that Nintendo have a new console coming out.

[Schpickles]

It's called 'PR' wooks63, that's what makes the difference.

I don't think it's so much that Apple are seen as innovating, I think it's got more to do with the fact that it means a lot business-wise - iPods are massive, and Apple supporting video and home multimedia in this way is a really interesting new rival to MS and Sony.

[Ramar]

Would use the Educational link.. Except my parents would be ordering, and they aren't students. And if I was to order I couldn't because I'm not 18 until Chrimbo Eve.

[CVD]

I've just bought one...

[DS MaNiAc]

I've just bought one...
Cool, 30 gig or 60?

[Jordan]

Yeah,Chris Mac thats exactly what i meant. Creative and iRiver do it too... I mean take this:

Zen Micro is like £20 less than the Zen Touch. Yet you get miles more storage. It makes no sense. Alot of companies seem to do it. Like Nintendo charaging £60 for the GB Micro.. when a DS is like £20 more.

[Haver]

BUT DUDE, SCROLL WHEEL.

[kyletherobot]

it looks very good. what i meant by chunkier was wider, i dotn know if its wider, it does look wider, probably isnt. if a company has a product that has an image like the iPod does, then they can charge what ever they want for it really, both this new model and the iPod nano are going to sell, even though the nano is expensive in comparison, good luck to apple i say, but i feel sorry for creative and sony, their mp3 players arent going to get a look in the christmas.

[Ashley]

If you can play non-purchased video then I might be tempted, but for now meh. I love Lost and DH but I want more than that, namely Veronica Mars.

[Jordan]

I heard on the news that we wouldn't be able to download US TV shows due to legal reasons. Thus meaning theres only music videos and the like for the mean time?

[Ashley]

I think ABC have allowed for their shows to be downloaded, hence why they're on iTunes. But what im thinking is ripping from DVDs and popping them onto this iPod thingy.

[Jordan]

Ooops, I meant to say in the UK. Because ABC obviously don't show them here. BBC/BskyB/CH4/ITV air them, and sometimes pay alot of the licences.

[Ramar]

I would assume you can put Quicktime format movies on the new iPod. I just assumed you could, wouldn't be very appealing if not, thats like not being able to put your CD's on your iPod.

[CVD]

I ordered a White 30GB one last night. Shipping date isn't until 24 October though, so I wont have one for about a fortnight.

And yes, you can put any Quicktime MPEG4 video on it. If you do some google searching, you can convert any .wmv or any other format into QT to play on the iPod.

The downside? Only 2 hours video playback battery life.

[Jordan]

Ouch, thats not that great is it O_o. Oh well, still the same as the PSP.

[Ramar]

2 hours isn't great but when are seriously going to sit down for more than two hours, the only time would be if your going on a long journey by plane or car.

[Charlie]

If you can play non-purchased video then I might be tempted, but for now meh. I love Lost and DH but I want more than that, namely Veronica Mars.

You can.

Colin, let me know how it is please. I'm thinking of getting one...

[CVD]

I will indeed Moria. But I have an alarming thought:

We in the UK, unlike in the States, have to pay a TV licence for ANY piece of equipment that can broadcast television. That includes TVs, PCs, Projectors, and mobile devices. Now, I've got a terrible feeling that we'l never see legally downloadable TV shows in iTunes UK because of that. Do you agree?

[Jordan]

Exactly what i thought. The BBC will be starting up their own service at the end of the year. However, you can only keep the files for 2 weeks and they have DRM so you can't use them on other devices or players.

[Ramar]

I will indeed Moria. But I have an alarming thought:

We in the UK, unlike in the States, have to pay a TV licence for ANY piece of equipment that can broadcast television. That includes TVs, PCs, Projectors, and mobile devices. Now, I've got a terrible feeling that we'l never see legally downloadable TV shows in iTunes UK because of that. Do you agree?

They may get more things like the Pixar shorts, maybe some indepedant films. I dunno, hopefully we'll get something though.

[CVD]

Am I the only person/idiot who bought this from here? Currently, my order is 'Preparing for Dispatch' and should be here end of this week, beginning of next. I've already converted a few dvds into iTunes in preperation, it should be cool watching them on my iPod next week.

[Meik]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but what video formats can this thing play? Do you have to convert all your existing videos to some rubbishy format, like on the PSP?

[Ramar]

Am I the only person/idiot who bought this from here? Currently, my order is 'Preparing for Dispatch' and should be here end of this week, beginning of next. I've already converted a few dvds into iTunes in preperation, it should be cool watching them on my iPod next week.

I'm ordering mine some time next week off the apple site, I'll get to test it before handing it back to my parents for them to hide for my Birthday and Christmas.

[Charlie]

Mike, they can play .mov's and MPEG4's.

[Andrew]

I only got my iPod 20gb photo a week ago and it's already been discontinued! Bah. :(

[CVD]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but what video formats can this thing play? Do you have to convert all your existing videos to some rubbishy format, like on the PSP?

Pretty much, I spent a few hours last night importing a load of short clips into Quicktime format. Although it'll look good on the iPod screen, it looks like shit on a full sized computer or TV screen.

[Charlie]

Pretty much, I spent a few hours last night importing a load of short clips into Quicktime format. Although it'll look good on the iPod screen, it looks like shit on a full sized computer or TV screen.

I converted a 50mb avi file and it came out as 200mb using Apple's H.264 mov format. That was only using 50% quality, it still looks really good at 320x200 (iPods screen size I think).

[Dieter]

Bah, if you want a portable media player get a GP2X [ www.gbax.com ]

Dual 200 Mhz CPU, 64 MB RAM, 64 MB built in flash, works with all SD flash cards, 8-10 hours battery time, runs Linux, emulates a ton of consoles, works via USB2.0, has TV out, and it's 150 euro's on lik sang or 124 pounds on gbax.com itself.

You don't even have to re-encode stuff, it plays xvid and divx stuff with linux' mplayer, it even resizes itself now :)

[Charlie]

Bah, if you want a portable media player get a GP2X [ www.gbax.com ]

Dual 200 Mhz CPU, 64 MB RAM, 64 MB built in flash, works with all SD flash cards, 8-10 hours battery time, runs Linux, emulates a ton of consoles, works via USB2.0, has TV out, and it's 150 euro's on lik sang or 124 pounds on gbax.com itself.

You don't even have to re-encode stuff, it plays xvid and divx stuff with linux' mplayer, it even resizes itself now :)

But you have to buy memory cards on top of that. How much woulda 1GB memory card be? iPod is much better value (apart from the battery).

[CVD]

Moria, what software do you use to convert? I don't want to shell out for QT Pro and can't find any serials anywhere. I've been using a 3GP converter but the quality is poor.

[Charlie]

I've got a Mac program. I found loads on Google when looking for mine. Just search "avi to mov converter" and loads will come up.

[Dieter]

But you have to buy memory cards on top of that. How much woulda 1GB memory card be? iPod is much better value (apart from the battery).

A 1 GB SD Flashcard is available for around 60 euro's, or 41 pounds.

And this plays videos on a bigger screen for at least four hours longer on two AA's, can emulate tons of stuff and you can run all sorts of apps, much like a pda really..

[CVD]

My new video iPod has shipped, I'll post my thoughts and answer any questions you might have right here, it should arrive by Saturday or Monday.

[Charlie]

http://diveintomark.org/howto/ipod-dvd-ripping-guide/

I had a better one somewhere, which was "How to put porn onto your iPod" but I can't find it anymore.

[gmac]

I think I'm gonna wait until apple release a proper "video" iPod with good battery life and better file type support, only problem is my current iPod is full :P

[DS MaNiAc]

I'm (hopefully) getting a 30gig one for christmas, my mam says she will ask my dad. He will probably get it for me cos:
A) He just sold lots of land for lots of money in greece and
B) He has been asked to star in a Movie by Germanys version of the BBC :O My dad could be a Movie Star 8-]

[Ramar]

Ordered mine today. I used the educational link, I thought stuff it I'll be 18 when I get it, and I am a strapped for cash student, if they want to check up on me they can call my college.

Received yours yet CVD?