Wii snubbed? - Sixaxis honoured with Emmy

[darthbane2k]

PS3 controller picks up prestigious gong at CES
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22052

The PlayStation 3's Sixaxis controller has been honoured with an award from the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.

The Technology and Engineering Emmy Award comes as the console manufacturer also revealed it has shipped one million units of its PlayStation 3 to North American retailers.

"The overwhelming consumer demand and critical acclaim for PS3 is testament of the platform's strength and the industry's desire for a true next-generation entertainment system," commented Jack Tretton, CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America.

"The full potential of this powerful machine has yet to be realised. What you've seen so far is just a taste of what will be on the table for 2007 and years to come," he added.

The Sixaxis controller has added motion sensing technology to re-define the original Dual Shock controller, detecting natural, real-time movements, along with input via pressure sensitive buttons, analogue sticks and triggers.

Sony's PlayStation 3 has also picked up the CES Best of Innovations Award for 2007, PC World's 20 Most Innovative Products Award, Sound and Vision's Editor's Choice Award and a Digital Innovation Award from the Digital Entertainment Group.

[stuwii]

most copyright infringing company of the year goes to ps3 for blatantly ripping of the wii which has no awards as we have been bribbed by sony

[fanman]

"The overwhelming consumer demand and critical acclaim for PS3 is testament of the platform's strength and the industry's desire for a true next-generation entertainment system,"

That kind of implies that the wii is not "next-gen", and the wii is kicking their ass in sales and interest.

The dual shock, aside from being incredibly uncomfortable, is over complicated and lacks rumble.

Really... what were they thinking giving this award to sony?

[Hellfire]

This is freaking laughable if you ask me.

[Pit-Jr]

*golf clap*

I can understand if the machine itself got an award but a tilt, dual shock w/rumble has already been done for the PS2 by a third party

[Patch]

In addition, Sony's Playstation 3 recently won the award for Debenham's 'Most Impressive Machine-thing' and Thornton's 'Most Overpriced Chocolate of 2006/2007.'

Sony's Vice-Chief of Proliferation had this to say: "We are committed to introducing brand-new never-before-seen, cutting-edge transistors, driving the industry sideways and pushing working class families further into debt than ever before".

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

In addition, Sony's Playstation 3 recently won the award for Debenham's 'Most Impressive Machine-thing' and Thornton's 'Most Overpriced Chocolate of 2006/2007.'

Well at least that bit was funny.
7/10.

[triforce_keeper]

This is a joke. Which isn't funny :/

[That Guy]

An absolute joke is the only way to decribe this. Seriously, I'm close to pissing myself laughing at this drivel.

I mean... it's just so... *Head smacks table*

*Raises head to mention one more thing* Shipped one million Sony have you? Not sold then?

*Head hits table once more*

[darthbane2k]

SCEA will receive this distinguished honor at an awards presentation being held tonight at the International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2007 in Las Vegas.

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[fanman]

An absolute joke is the only way to decribe this. Seriously, I'm close to pissing myself laughing at this drivel.

I mean... it's just so... *Head smacks table*

*Raises head to mention one more thing* Shipped one million Sony have you? Not sold then?

*Head hits table once more*

Just like with the psp when they said they'd shipped 10 million, but sold about 5.5 million.

[Domstercool]

Seems the Wii is getting snubbed because it doesn't show next gen power, so isn't in the race for next gen. Then again with games like Farcry showing the wii power of N64ness, there's no surprise alot are not paying attention.

[Goron_3]

*golf clap*

I can understand if the machine itself got an award but a tilt, dual shock w/rumble has already been done for the PS2 by a third party

Exactly. Bloody hell they are STUPID!

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

I believe Nintendo was not part of the show and therfore did not recieve an award. At least I hope so.

[Nintenchris]

This just goes to show how dumb some people are... either that or all it show is a good bribe can get you anything.

[AshMat]

Congratulations to Sony, they worked hard and they really deserved this Award, Keep it up champs.

Definitely, hats off to them.

[Nintendork]

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$9.99 is just too much. I'll probably pick it up when it hits $7.30.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

God the prepubescent jealousy and generic rage in this thread is hilarious.
Nintendo weren’t part of the event, where they?

[Jasper]

Kinda stupid, yes. The Dual Shock was more impressive as a pad than the ankwardly named 'SIXAXIS'. It looks the same, and, let's be honest, how the hell can you actually use the motionsensing anyway different than tilting the controller? I won't be tennissing with this thing like in Wii Sports. But I'll admit, the PS3 is kind of an attractive system and has loads of potential. If they didn't go all motionsesening-ish with their controller, they wouldn't be in the league Nintendo is in. Sadly enough they did, and will probabloy receive an ass-kicking. It was a bad press year for Sony, so it was best to start of good. And if you got money anything can be 'good' for the press. Indepenant press, my ass - they're all advertisment-fabrics...

[Nintendork]

It's not awkward, it's SIXAXIS.

There's two X's which conveniently ties in with the PlayStation's iconic buttons - triangle, circle, square and cross.
It's a homonym, it sounds the same and flows- threeaxis does not work, however factually correct it may be.

Homonym I think it's called.

[Jasper]

It's not awkward, it's SIXAXIS.

There's two X's which conveniently ties in with the PlayStation's iconic buttons - triangle, circle, square and cross.
It's a homonym, it sounds the same and flows- threeaxis does not work, however factually incorrect it may be.

Homonym I think it's called.

Not literally ankward, you fool. It was my thought about the name... Bit okay, you have a point. Still think it's an odd and icredibly stupid name... Why does a controller need a name anyway?

[Cookyman]

Not literally ankward, you fool. It was my thought about the name... Bit okay, you have a point. Still think it's an odd and icredibly stupid name... Why does a controller need a name anyway?

Mine does it's called Betty.

Seriously though what a fucking joke - we all know know Nintendo are the true innovators - so they can stick their emmy.

[Nintendork]

Why does a controller need a name anyway?
Identity, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Sony coins the term Dual Shock in 1997 or whenever it was, it's a trademarked name and Dual Shock becomes the name for the PlayStation controller.

Third parties cannot call their product dual shock, so when someone comes into a store they'll say "I need to buy a dual shock" or they'll Google it.

It's all money in Sony's pocket which could have been going into third parties had they just left it as "controller" part of it was also to 1up Nintendo.

[Tellyn]

Sixaxis

- Tilt
-Buttons
- 'Wireless' which requires you to plug it in for a bit whenever you turn it on to even be able to play

Wii Remote

- Nunchuk attachment
- Classic Controller attachment
- Rumble
- Speaker
- Buttons
- Motion sensing control/tilt/accelerometers
-Wireless



Tell me if I left anything out.

[Nintendork]

Sixaxis
-Buttons

Wii Remote
- Buttons

Tell me if I left anything out.
Oh you got everything.

- 'Wireless' which requires you to plug it in for a bit whenever you turn it on to even be able to play"
Source? As far as I see if it's on a Bluetooth network it should work under the same syncing procedure as the Wii.

[Tellyn]

Oh you got everything.


Source? As far as I see if it's on a Bluetooth network it should work under the same syncing procedure as the Wii.

I'm going by what I saw in a news story the other month that said it came with a USB cable that you used to link the controller to the console manually every time you turned it on. I have no source, not sure if it's correct or not so just read as wireless for now.

[Owen]

I think consumers know that the PS3 has taken a leaf from Wii's book and not the other way round, so in all fairness the Wii-mote should have got that award if they were entered.

Overall? Who cares, the Wii is extremely popular at the moment and one award ain't gonna make a blind bit of difference.

Slightly odd though, i must admit. :)

[Nintendork]

As far as I'm aware it's a one-off thing.
SIXAXIS doesn't have a sync button so you just use the cable should you have friends around.

I think you were trying to shine the SIXAXIS in a bad light anyway, the main differences are Wiimote has rumble, a speaker and is modular.
The SIXAXIS has no pointing technology but it remains a design classic.
The nunchuck and classic controller do not count as advantages because the SIXAXIS does them by default.

We all know the Wiimote has more potential, but the SIXAXIS is still a solid foundation. No pun intended.

[Emasher]

i bet s**y paid them off

[Owen]

i bet s**y paid them off

You couldn't even say their name? :laughing:

Thats like when my nan has had a migraine and shes says 'I've had a you know what' instead of saying what it is, believing it will come back and get her!

:hehe:

[david.dakota]

It looks like a TV remote

[Tellyn]

It looks like a TV remote

Everybody stop, Sherlock Holmes is here!

[Haden]

Seems the Wii is getting snubbed because it doesn't show next gen power, so isn't in the race for next gen. Then again with games like Farcry showing the wii power of N64ness, there's no surprise alot are not paying attention.

rofl you dug real hard to make it nintendos fault there didnt you :D

What a complete joke.

[Mike]

The SIXAXIS has no pointing technology but it remains a design classic.
The nunchuck and classic controller do not count as advantages because the SIXAXIS does them by default.

I personally think that the Playstation controller design is one of the most uncomfortable I've ever held, but each to his own, I suppose.

I would say the nunchuk certainly does count as an advantage to the Wii controller, or at least the fact that you can detach it and do many things on the Wii one-handed does. I also like the fact that the long wire between the controllers means you can rest each hand pretty much where you want when playing.

[Nintendork]

Yeah but it comes under the umbrella of being modular.
There is a trade-off between design and comfort, I think that Sony got it right.. the GameCube controller is nicer to hold but it looks like shit.

[motion]

as a completely random comment, the gamecube controller is probably the most comfortable controller out there (in my opinion)

[Fierce_LiNk]

Yeah but it comes under the umbrella of being modular.
There is a trade-off between design and comfort, I think that Sony got it right.. the GameCube controller is nicer to hold but it looks like shit.

I dunno, there's a fair amount of gamers out there who cannot stand the analogue stick placement on the PS2 pad.

It's one of my least favourite controllers, to be honest.

[Owen]

360 controller is superb also! One of the best if i'm honest.

There all fantastic in there own right.

[That Guy]

God the prepubescent jealousy and generic rage in this thread is hilarious.
Nintendo weren’t part of the event, where they?

Don't give me all that shit. Sony chat shit all the time and never deserve all awards.
PS3 might have some top games in a years time, but that doesn't mean I can't really dislike Sony.

360 controller is superb also! One of the best if i'm honest.

There all fantastic in there own right.

360 pad is a class pad.

[Zechs Merquise]

most copyright infringing company of the year goes to ps3 for blatantly ripping of the wii which has no awards as we have been bribbed by sony

hahahahha, this is a total joke.

[solitanze]

Why would Nintendo win an award at a conference they never participate in?

Its meaningless. Its not as if these "awards" are going to result in an increase of 10 million plus PS3s... Just because a few complimentary words are said about PS3, by default, it doesn't mean it's automatically determined to be the most successful system PERIOD.

Relax, this will have little to no bearing on Nintendo Wiis success...


BUT... This sort of thing will if in unison that is: http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11747

[Jasper]

as a completely random comment, the gamecube controller is probably the most comfortable controller out there (in my opinion)

Totally true, though the Wiimote certainly showed an incredible look and feel. The GameCube controller fits perfectly in any hand and the buttons are easy to use. Just like the Wiimote.

And yes, let's be honest: the PS3 design is tried and tested and is a great controller. Nintendo has yet to prove the true potential. Yes, pointing is one thing, but that's about it. i love it though, and the greatest plus is that it can attach anything. I hope for more Nunchaku-lik stuff.

[raven_blade2006]

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Seriously that just looks retarded. What a fantastic innovation! :shakehead

[DCK]

Right, you do know you make a similar movement when pitching in Wii Sports Baseball?

Sony didn't deserve to win it over the Wiimote, surely, but you can't call the controller or its movements retarded.

[fanman]

Sixaxis

- Tilt
-Buttons
- 'Wireless' which requires you to plug it in for a bit whenever you turn it on to even be able to play

Wii Remote

- Nunchuk attachment
- Classic Controller attachment
- Rumble
- Speaker
- Buttons
- Motion sensing control/tilt/accelerometers
-Wireless



Tell me if I left anything out.

Pointer and ability to add new things to the controller... like the gun attachment, and although it apparently sucks, the steering wheel attatchment. The point is that there is a lot more possiblity with the wii controller.

As for comfortability, the GC's pad is second only to the 360's in my opinion. Dual Shock just doesn't fit into my hands right, and it doesn't have the hexagon thing around the analogue stick, which I like.

[xernobyl]

They bought the award for sure!

What has PS3 got to do with Emmys??? And what makes sixaxis (Technology and Engineering) better whan the Wii remote+Nunchaku? It's the same thing plus an accelerometer. Wii Remote is not the same thing, and has much more than an accelerometer!

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Seriously that just looks retarded. What a fantastic innovation! :shakehead
Someone Wii Punch that guy!

[Jasper]

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Comme on - it looks silly. It isn't the appropriate thing to do with your cotnroller. That's why the Wii Remote actually does it right. Controlling a game like Excite truck with the SIXAXIS is equally as nice, but I think it feels better using the Wii Remote. But doing things like the Wiimote does in Wii Sports just isn't appropriate for the controller.

Xernobyl: The SIXAXIS is not bad - it's still an industry standard and it works fine. The rumble is lacking and Nintendo probably just didn't join in the competition. Sony could use some good advertisment, but the controller is good - no matter what. Not the best, but a standard.

[xernobyl]

Comme on - it looks silly. It isn't the appropriate thing to do with your cotnroller. That's why the Wii Remote actually does it right. Controlling a game like Excite truck with the SIXAXIS is equally as nice, but I think it feels better using the Wii Remote. But doing things like the Wiimote does in Wii Sports just isn't appropriate for the controller.

Xernobyl: The SIXAXIS is not bad - it's still an industry standard and it works fine. The rumble is lacking and Nintendo probably just didn't join in the competition. Sony could use some good advertisment, but the controller is good - no matter what. Not the best, but a standard.

I didn't say it is bad, but for it doesn't deserve a technology and engineering award! PS3 maybe. Not the controller.

[That Guy]

Right, you do know you make a similar movement when pitching in Wii Sports Baseball?

Sony didn't deserve to win it over the Wiimote, surely, but you can't call the controller or its movements retarded.

Agree there, anyone I've ever seen using a Wii remote looks retarded. It's part of the fun. But the anologue sticks are still a bag of shit on Dual Shock.

[NintendoRevo]

1. http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/directory/default.asp

2. Read who the candidates was

3. Think

4. Reach to the conclusion that with those candidates the Sixaxis is the obvious winner

5. Lock the thread lol

[solitanze]

1. http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/directory/default.asp

2. Read who the candidates was

3. Think

4. Reach to the conclusion that with those candidates the Sixaxis is the obvious winner

5. Lock the thread lol

Basically what I was saying before, Nintendo never attend that event FORKING out money for promotional purposes like the others at this event, of course they won't be in the running for the award.

LOCK THREAD.

[Ashley]

To be fair, the Emmys deserve to be ignored in all aspects. Old style system that really is outdated.

[/ nando /]

..Yeh.. the Dual Shock Analogue sticks are horrendous.. and the D-Pad makes my thumb hurt a little after prolonged play.. GC Controller was the best thing out there..

Haven't the analogue sticks been 'fixed' for the PS3 though?

[Domstercool]

Don't think you have to plug it in everytime to play you know. I personally I'm so used to the PS2 pad now that I don't mind using them. At first I hated the sticks, but now I don't mind. It's nice that they updated the X2 buttons to trigger like effect though.

[Jasper]

You have to plug in to connect at first, after that he'll recognize it. untill you go online (or so i've heard), when the entire pad needs straight connection with the console to insert your characters. There was something incredibly annoying requiring you to connect it to the console. It's a different system than Wii - it's more about registering the controllers the first time and then recognizing them, while the Wii - though needing syncing - recalibrates every time again with the system. It's complicated stuff.

[Dilli Gee]

Tellyn888, you're talking out of your big fat arse. The PS3 controller works exactly the same way as the Xbox 360 one.

[Rummy]

Good work Sony, pleased to see them getting something for their efforts rather than the continous harsh criticism they get for apparently 'stealing' other people's ideas.


Sony have got one thing that Nintendo haven't, a bit of sense in naming. I think there's alot in a name, SIXAXIS is quite an awesome one and kudos to whoever come up with it. It flows off the tongue well, sounds smooth and sleek, and most of the reasons of it being a good name were covered earlier, and I dunno if anyone mentioned the rather clever fact that it's a palindrome as well.

Had Nintendo stuck with Revolution over Wii, well, I don't doubt things would have been different. Even so, they don't have a proper name for their controller, constantly referred to as Wii Remote. I know the phrase Wiimote has been coined, but I have yet to see it used by Nintendo, and why the hell not?! Why not make it the official name? It'd give a better image, like SIXAXIS does.

[solitanze]

Good work Sony, pleased to see them getting something for their efforts rather than the continous harsh criticism they get for apparently 'stealing' other people's ideas.


Sony have got one thing that Nintendo haven't, a bit of sense in naming. I think there's alot in a name, SIXAXIS is quite an awesome one and kudos to whoever come up with it. It flows off the tongue well, sounds smooth and sleek, and most of the reasons of it being a good name were covered earlier, and I dunno if anyone mentioned the rather clever fact that it's a palindrome as well.

Had Nintendo stuck with Revolution over Wii, well, I don't doubt things would have been different. Even so, they don't have a proper name for their controller, constantly referred to as Wii Remote. I know the phrase Wiimote has been coined, but I have yet to see it used by Nintendo, and why the hell not?! Why not make it the official name? It'd give a better image, like SIXAXIS does.

Shame the quality of the name hasn't passed onto the final product. Its the worst controller of the three offerings from consoles. Cheap is the best word to describe the controller. It does it's job and in certain games, its quite good, but the lack of rumble in favour of motion control wasn't a good ommission.

[Dante]

From Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/oops-sony-declares-sixaxis-emmy-emmys-say-uh-uh/)

We weren't sure why the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences decided to give Sony's evolutionary SIXAXIS controller a Technology and Engineering Emmy and, evidently, neither were they. After Sony blasted out a press release proudly proclaiming the honor -- and after the internet rubbed its collective eyes raw -- we've learned that Sony wasn't alone in receiving an honor from the Academy. The list of Emmy Award winners for "Peripheral Development and Technological Impact of Video Game Controllers" include Sony Computer Entertainment of America and ... Nintendo! Did Nintendo's innovative Wiimote share the honor with the motion-sensing SIXAXIS? Not quite ... Séamus at Hydrapinion did some legwork and discovered that, while Sony had won an Emmy for Technology and Engineering, it wasn't for the SIXAXIS. Instead, Christine Chin from NATAS confirmed that Sony's Dual Shock as well as Nintendo's D-Pad (NES pad?) won "for the development of the generation of controllers that followed the classic joysticks." Oops! You know what they say happens when you assume.

[Smiter]

Drat, Dante beat me to it. :P He really must be a robot, posting at 3:23am... (hope you got some sleep)

Yeah, Sony's PR gave us another spadeful of bulls**t. Not only was the Emmy really for the Dual Shock, a pad that came out for the PS1, but one was also awarded to Nintendo for their invention of the D-pad!

Lesson learnt: Never believe a single thing Sony says, unless it is independently verified. I never believed their "sold" *cough*shipped*cough* stats, but I fell for this one.

[Mokong X-C]

I saw this earlier, i have to wonder what went through Sonys minds.

"Hey guys the dual shock is getting an award, but lets say it was the Sixaxis so people think it's better than it is."

Did they really think they wouldn't be found out?

Wonder what their thinking now that they have?

This is somewhat similar to when that plane went missing in Indonesia and the government said they found it and there were survivors, only problem was THEY DIDN'T FIND THE PLANE

[4q2]

http://www.gameinfowire.com/news.asp?nid=9987

Thats got to sting now its being posted all over....
Anyone pointing to Emmys looking for Sony's achievements are most likely going to be presented with this garb every time they search.

No-one can really take the D-pad from nintendo though...Simple but excellent.

[Jasper]

Just when you thought Sony fired those lazy PR guys, they pop up again. If I was Sony's boss, i'de sack those guys, and sack the people who sacked those guys, sorry to use Monthy Python for this, you guys. Come on, as if last year didn't have really bad business strategies and PR. Sony can't keep fooling around like this. Everytime Sony declares something, you have to chew it twice and spit it in the bin, look at the paper again and see if Sony didn't change any words. Or you hire the guys from CSI: Miami to check if there are previous notes readable to check words they deleted with pressure techniques. Sorry, Sony, but I've got to give it to Nintendo: the PR of that company has improved significantly the past years and they strategicly shown all info about the then-known 'Revolution'. They fucked up your Tokyo Game Show. Twice. In a row. They stole E3. They launched with a bang. Now where's the Sony we know?

Fire the PR, Sony, you're having bad press. And not a little bit.

[The fish]

Tellyn888, you're talking out of your big fat arse. The PS3 controller works exactly the same way as the Xbox 360 one.

No it doesn't: the 360 controller works, the ps3 one is like the ps2 one, and therefore doesn't.

[Jasper]

No it doesn't: the 360 controller works, the ps3 one is like the ps2 one, and therefore doesn't.

Nothing bad about Sony bashing, but don't forget it's still the world's most-known and used controller of all time. People love it. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's one that you musn't just deny existence. Just pointing that out, if you don't mind.

because we're not all into mindless Sony-bashing and we try to get valuable arguments to hit them. Like their insanely crappy PR.

[Sonic238]

just to clear some things up: it wasn't the ps3 sixaxis controller that won, but the ps2 dual shock!

and don't come saying "but even sony themselves said so" I KNOW! and then tell me when they're not talking shit.
but it was a shot in the knee, it was all over digg.com. well done, sony :D

[solitanze]

PS3 to be snubbed by consumers and be the least successful Sony console of all time?

[Tellyn]

Tellyn888, you're talking out of your big fat arse. The PS3 controller works exactly the same way as the Xbox 360 one.

Cheers, love you too. And correction, Xbox360 has rumble.

[gmanprime]

I'm going by what I saw in a news story the other month that said it came with a USB cable that you used to link the controller to the console manually every time you turned it on. I have no source, not sure if it's correct or not so just read as wireless for now.

Its not. You only have to hook the controller up the first time to sync it to the system.

By the way does ne body have ne thing that they don't like about the wiimote. I for 1 can't stand the way the battery cover feels cheap, loose, and ricketty. It make the controller feel so fragile.

[AshMat]

Yeah the battery covers on my wiimotes feel a bit loose, but i stopped noticing it eventually.

[Adrian DX]

Sixaxis

- Tilt
-Buttons
- 'Wireless' which requires you to plug it in for a bit whenever you turn it on to even be able to play

Wii Remote

- Nunchuk attachment
- Classic Controller attachment
- Rumble
- Speaker
- Buttons
- Motion sensing control/tilt/accelerometers
-Wireless



Tell me if I left anything out.

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