Saddam Hussein - Executed

[conzer16]

According to many news outlets Saddam Hussein was to be executed at 6am Iraq time (03.00 GMT).

No official details have been announced by any Iraqi Goverment or Legal body and confusion is high as to the truth in these speculations.

The BBC have apparently shown Shia Muslims celebrating the death of Hussein, and according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein)

"At 0557 local time, December 30, 2006 officials claimed that the executions had taken place without confirmation from news sources.

Saddam Hussein was executed at 5:57 AM December 30th Baghdad time according to Al-Hurra and Al-Arabiya, two Arab news agencies, as reported on CNN and Fox News."

So Saddam is gone. He has been tried and executed by the people he massacred.


Reuters Report Execution (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-12-30T030839Z_01_IBO034602_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ.xml&src=122906_2216_TOPSTORY_saddam_executed)

Sky News Report Execution (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13559626,00.html)

BBC Report Execution (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218485.stm)

FOX News Report Execution (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,240057,00.html)

CNN Report Execution (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html)

Funnily enough, no Arabic News station (Al Jazeera etc) is confirming his execution. The only news stations that are are Western ones.

Quote from BBC Article
It was witnessed by a doctor, lawyer and officials. It was also filmed

Anyone see it on Youtube yet?

[Fierce_LiNk]

WTF!

Can they even do it this quickly?!

How convenient. He gets executed to coincide with the Hajj and Eid.

[Shino]

According to many news outlets Saddam Hussein was to be executed at 6am Iraq time (03.00 GMT).

No official details have been announced by any Iraqi Goverment or Legal body and confusion is high as to the truth in these speculations.

The BBC have apparently shown Shia Muslims celebrating the death of Hussein, and according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein)



So Saddam is gone. He has been tried and executed by the people he massacred.


Reuters Report Execution (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-12-30T030839Z_01_IBO034602_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ.xml&src=122906_2216_TOPSTORY_saddam_executed)

Sky News Report Execution (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13559626,00.html)

Can we call this justice? His finally dead but it doesn't seem enough.

WTF!

Can they even do it this quickly?!

How convenient. He gets executed to coincide with the Hajj and Eid.

Whats that?

[Hellfire]

Death penalty is weird.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Can we call this justice? His finally dead but it doesn't seem enough.



Whats that?

Hajj is a Muslim pilgrimage that takes place in Saudi Arabia.
Eid is a Muslim religious festivel.

[conzer16]

Al Jazeera (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0E2C08A9-6269-4E5B-B694-C4388958DE07.htm) are now reporting that a US backed TV station has confirmed the execution of Saddam.

Edit: If anyone is near a TV with CNN on it, apparently Anderson Cooper is saying they are going to show both the video and the pictures of his execution.

[The3rdChildren]

Looks like the South Park movie can finally take place.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Al Jazeera (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0E2C08A9-6269-4E5B-B694-C4388958DE07.htm) are now reporting that a US backed TV station has confirmed the execution of Saddam.

Edit: If anyone is near a TV with CNN on it, apparently Anderson Cooper is saying they are going to show both the video and the pictures of his execution.

They can't be serious. Surely they're not allowed to put videos and pictures of any execution on the news at all?!

[conzer16]

I dont know anything about what they can or can't broadcast but if you're near a tv with CNN (I'm not), switch it on and report back!!

[Oxigen_Waste]

Looks like the South Park movie can finally take place.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Ah-ah!!!

I really couldn't care less if he is dead or not. I never cared about it.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I dont know anything about what they can or can't broadcast but if you're near a tv with CNN (I'm not), switch it on and report back!!

I've turned the tv on in the other room, as that has access to CNN.

I've turned my attention away from Twilight Princess for tonight. Damn you. :heh:

[Oxigen_Waste]

I've turned my attention away from Twilight Princess for tonight.
I do think you're in for some jail time.

[or else you will DIE]

This would be the perfect day to launch the Wii News channel.

[antster1983]

Sounds like Saddam has carried out his suspended sentence... :horse:

[triforce_keeper]

Good. Fucking nightmare on legs he was. Good riddance.

[KKOB]

i really don't know what to think of this . . .

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Good. Fucking nightmare on legs he was. Good riddance.

Well, people should consider following two things before saying it was "good" move:

1) Saddam was still idolized by quite many Iraqians. You can't even imagine how bad the public backslash will be in certain regions.
2) Saddam died as a martyr. This encourages his followers, resulting in more fanatic fighters and more car bombs that will kill innocent civilizians.
3) Iraq is already on the verge of civil war, and last thing that Iraq currently needs is more hostilities.

[triforce_keeper]

Well, people should consider following two things before saying it was "good" move:

1) Saddam was still idolized by quite many Iraqians. You can't even imagine how bad the public backslash will be in certain regions.
2) Saddam died as a martyr. This encourages his followers, resulting in more fanatic fighters and more car bombs that will kill innocent civilizians.
3) Iraq is already on the verge of civil war, and last thing that Iraq currently needs is more hostilities.

Spose, but he killed ALOT of people. Its only right he should be killed himself. Anyway. It's done now, now turning back.

Unless someone in the future has just invented a time machine. lol.

[conzer16]

It's not right to kill anybody, no matter what they have done.

Here is a pic of him before he was hung:

Apparently he refused to wear a hood. Defiant to the last.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/meast/12/30/hussein/story.saddam.hanging.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/saddam_hanged_graphic.jpg

Picures of his body were also broadcast, but speculation is rife amongst the streets and cafes in Baghdad, that the execution was staged.

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1483668.jpg

[Blackfox]

Anyone see it on Youtube yet?

I've seen (on BBC news) the bit where he was lead up to the gallows and had the noose placed around his neck. I thnk they were saying that is how much the

Looks like the South Park movie can finally take place.

But he wasn't eaten by a pack of wild dogs :(

My thoughts on tis are mixed. Part of me thought justice has been done - afterall he's a mass murderer. However, I don't really think that the death penalty was right for this.. I guess its Iraq and Iraqi justice prevails.

[Pit-Jr]

Hes a war casualty like thousands of others. This is no bigger a deal than a civilian taking a stray bullet or a soldier stepping on a mine

[Zechs Merquise]

Well, people should consider following two things before saying it was "good" move:

1) Saddam was still idolized by quite many Iraqians. You can't even imagine how bad the public backslash will be in certain regions.
2) Saddam died as a martyr. This encourages his followers, resulting in more fanatic fighters and more car bombs that will kill innocent civilizians.
3) Iraq is already on the verge of civil war, and last thing that Iraq currently needs is more hostilities.

Very very good post.

The fact it's ridiculously ironic that the British (Labour) Government, who helped to depose him (illegally and at the cost of over a hundred British lives) despises the death penalty and whilst we have hundreds if not thousands of paedophiles, murderers and rapists filling up our over crowded prison system they're all alive and well, and under the politically correct system we live in will no doubt all get out on parole and be re-housed with new identities.

How either Tony Blair or George Bush can call this man a murderer after all the people around the world that have been killed due to their decisions is beyond me.

All the invasion of Iraq has done is thrust Britain into a conflict which has cost British lives. It's also pushed a country into a state of near civil war and further destabilised an already unstable part of the world. All for what, oh yeah, America to get it's hands on Iraqi oil.

[solitanze]

Now to the next phase in operation acquire Middle Eastern resources.

[AshMat]

Commence WW3!

[Dan Dare]

I think the events around this are too unstable to call it justified. The trial was a sham, the last thing the country needs is a martyr and the sectarian violence is already horrific. The Iraqis were out for blood, and the international community allowed them to get it on unsound grounds, utterly undermining their attempts at legitimately disposing of Saddam. My only regret over his death is that it should have been a point at which his rule could be drawn under, and a real Iraqi government could take his place. as it is, they have simply fuelled the insane delusions of the insurgency.

[Atomic Boo]

Well at least he didnt get the death he wanted. When he was in court he asked to be shot because of the type of army man he was
However it was not to be. I hope it was painful.

That last sentece sounded very mean! I take it back.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218875.stm
it says there's a video but i cant get it to work

[Dan Dare]

no need to take it back boo. Saddam was a vicious, depraved **** of a human being. he deserved every moment of pain he ever received.

[Haver]

What crazy and barbaric madness.

[Tellyn]

Interesting fact: Saddam's favourite flavour of crisp was salt and vinegar.


Anyway I thought he was supposed to be executed in a few months? Has Iraq gone against that or was it legal?

[conzer16]

He was sentenced to death over a month ago. Under Iraqi law, anyone sentenced to death has an automatic appeal lasting no more than 30 days. If that appeal fails, they are usually exectuted within the next 30 days.

Saddam's execution took everyone by surprise, as he wasn't expected to be executed until the middle of January. We all knew it was coming, but they kind of jumped the gun and just did it.

[Bren]

But he can change he can change

[The Peeps]

I don't know if anyone deserves the death sentence, but Saddam certainly was an evil man.

[Jack]

Spose, but he killed ALOT of people. Its only right he should be killed himself.

I don't think it is. You can't pay for justice with blood, and his death accomplishes nothing but turning him into a martyr.

[or else you will DIE]

relaaax, guy.

[Waylander]

I think they should have let Saddam rot in jail for the rest of his life.

[DanielTimothy]

When is the DVD release?

LOL, Your quite the witty bastard aren't you.

[weeyellowbloke]

I think they should have let Saddam rot in jail for the rest of his life.


That would have been a much better resolution in my opinion, but I think he was tried under Iraqi law so there was little chance of that happening. I reckon the sudden rush in the execution was an attempt to hold off attacks from his supporters and martyr status by not having a large build up.

[Zechs Merquise]

no need to take it back boo. Saddam was a vicious, depraved **** of a human being. he deserved every moment of pain he ever received.

The problem is, everyone views the actions of others through their own eyes, and sadly as Westerners, we view Saddam's regime in very negative light due to our beliefs. However, there is more violence, more sectarianism and more terror now in Iraq than there ever was under Saddam's regime.

The fact of the matter is that people over there may not have had all the freedoms we enjoy here in Briatin, but they were better off than they are now. The country is now on the brink of civil war. Simply trying to apply our beliefs and values to another country and it's people will never work, and it clearly hasn't here.

What's more is that people keep whining on that he needed removing etc etc, well the war was never fought to remove Saddam. The war was fought over a faked dossier on Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never there in the first place. I love the way that our politicians try to re-write history, as if they completed their objectives and done Iraq a good turn. This war was a sham to gain control of oil.

What's more who has killed more, Saddam or Bush and Blair, look at the innocent people that have died in Serbia, Afghanistan and Iraq at the their hands. Look at the servicemen who have lost their lives or been wounded fighting these wars.

[Emasher]

now if only they could only capture binladen

[Dan Dare]

The problem is, everyone views the actions of others through their own eyes, and sadly as Westerners, we view Saddam's regime in very negative light due to our beliefs. However, there is more violence, more sectarianism and more terror now in Iraq than there ever was under Saddam's regime.

The fact of the matter is that people over there may not have had all the freedoms we enjoy here in Briatin, but they were better off than they are now. The country is now on the brink of civil war. Simply trying to apply our beliefs and values to another country and it's people will never work, and it clearly hasn't here.

What's more is that people keep whining on that he needed removing etc etc, well the war was never fought to remove Saddam. The war was fought over a faked dossier on Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never there in the first place. I love the way that our politicians try to re-write history, as if they completed their objectives and done Iraq a good turn. This war was a sham to gain control of oil.

What's more who has killed more, Saddam or Bush and Blair, look at the innocent people that have died in Serbia, Afghanistan and Iraq at the their hands. Look at the servicemen who have lost their lives or been wounded fighting these wars.

Things are worse now, yes. But that changes nothing about the past. He was a piece of shit, plain and simple. You should avoid sanitising his regime in light of what has happened since.

[Zechs Merquise]

Things are worse now, yes. But that changes nothing about the past. He was a piece of shit, plain and simple. You should avoid sanitising his regime in light of what has happened since.

What nonsense, things must always be put in context. The context of this is that he was deposed, which has created far more problems than it solved, and he was deposed not because the people who deposed him thought he was particularly bad, infact they actually set him up and funded him - much in the same way they have done with many regimes, but because they wanted his oil.

And to get the oil they created a load of fairy tales about WMDs, which turned out to be a pack of lies, at which point they then justified the invasion on the grounds that Saddam wasn't a particularly nice guy and the Iraqis needed Western democracy.

So, Saddam used brutal force to keep the lid on a Society made up of different factions that would otherwise be slaughtering each other. Democracy is not a one size fits all system that works well with every culture that it's foisted upon. The 'liberating forces of the West' have hardly been met with open arms by the 'liberated Iraqi people' have they?

[Max]

never dreamt of the day my dad would be in tears seeing him dead! a great day for all us iraqis.

this song comes to mind by greenday

Ha ha you're dead
And I'm so happy
In loving memory
Of your demise

Ha ha you're dead
The joke is over
You were an asshole
And now you're gone
As your ship is going down
I'll stand by and watch you drown

[Dan Dare]

What nonsense, things must always be put in context. The context of this is that he was deposed, which has created far more problems than it solved, and he was deposed not because the people who deposed him thought he was particularly bad, infact they actually set him up and funded him - much in the same way they have done with many regimes, but because they wanted his oil.

And to get the oil they created a load of fairy tales about WMDs, which turned out to be a pack of lies, at which point they then justified the invasion on the grounds that Saddam wasn't a particularly nice guy and the Iraqis needed Western democracy.

So, Saddam used brutal force to keep the lid on a Society made up of different factions that would otherwise be slaughtering each other. Democracy is not a one size fits all system that works well with every culture that it's foisted upon. The 'liberating forces of the West' have hardly been met with open arms by the 'liberated Iraqi people' have they?

My point was that you seem to be justifying totalitarianism in the context of the violence that came after it.
I'm not condoning the absurd 'War on Terror' bullshit, far from it. Saddam was nothing more than a vicious minded tyrant who murdered hundreds of his own people. The way he was deposed was far from ideal, granted, but it doesn't change the fact that he deserved to go.

[Haden]

What nonsense, things must always be put in context. The context of this is that he was deposed, which has created far more problems than it solved, and he was deposed not because the people who deposed him thought he was particularly bad, infact they actually set him up and funded him - much in the same way they have done with many regimes, but because they wanted his oil.

And to get the oil they created a load of fairy tales about WMDs, which turned out to be a pack of lies, at which point they then justified the invasion on the grounds that Saddam wasn't a particularly nice guy and the Iraqis needed Western democracy.

So, Saddam used brutal force to keep the lid on a Society made up of different factions that would otherwise be slaughtering each other. Democracy is not a one size fits all system that works well with every culture that it's foisted upon. The 'liberating forces of the West' have hardly been met with open arms by the 'liberated Iraqi people' have they?

Stability vs Morality?

[Zechs Merquise]

Stability vs Morality?

Indeed, but that is exactly the point. Morality is a subjective thing. The way of life in Western Europe and the States is VERY different to the way of life in countries like Iraq, everything is viewed differently - even life itself.

In some Muslim countries women still get stoned to death for committing adultery. What we would see as oppressive and barbaric is normality, and it is not our place to go and tell these people they are wrong.

Their circumstances are different to ours, there ways are different, their culture is different. By applying our morals and our democracy to their country, culture and ways of life we haven't helped them. We've simply created an unstable mess where death and suffering is even more commonplace.

For true change to take place in a country like Iraq it has to be from the Iraqi people, like it was in Eastern Europe when the Berlin wall fell.

What's more, Bush and Blair have done nothing more than replaced one dicator with another. They have put in place a puppet government that dances to their tune, it's not there to serve the Iraqi people, but to serve America's need for oil.

[Haver]

Did we not get over the oil thing?

I thought we got over the oil thing.

[Dan Dare]

frankly, your argument is starting to sound like sensationalist teenie politics, Zechs. there's far more to it than 'ZOMG! OIL!'

[Haden]

Indeed, but that is exactly the point. Morality is a subjective thing. The way of life in Western Europe and the States is VERY different to the way of life in countries like Iraq, everything is viewed differently - even life itself.

In some Muslim countries women still get stoned to death for committing adultery. What we would see as oppressive and barbaric is normality, and it is not our place to go and tell these people they are wrong.

Their circumstances are different to ours, there ways are different, their culture is different. By applying our morals and our democracy to their country, culture and ways of life we haven't helped them. We've simply created an unstable mess where death and suffering is even more commonplace.

For true change to take place in a country like Iraq it has to be from the Iraqi people, like it was in Eastern Europe when the Berlin wall fell.

What's more, Bush and Blair have done nothing more than replaced one dicator with another. They have put in place a puppet government that dances to their tune, it's not there to serve the Iraqi people, but to serve America's need for oil.


But democracy is surely a manifestation of popular culture?

It doesnt nessicarly mean western liberalism look at Hamas and Iran for examples. The fact that a lot of the population voted in the Iraq elections even though it was a dangerous time seems to show that it isn't against their principles.

I disagree with your puppet government view that government is now accountable to the Iraqi people which is a lot more than S Hussein was.

I dont think you could really argue that S Hussein was a moral man. He may have delivered stability but that stability was given through real politik and brutal oppression. Mass graves are still being found now.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Well, people should consider following two things before saying it was "good" move:

1) Saddam was still idolized by quite many Iraqians. You can't even imagine how bad the public backslash will be in certain regions.
2) Saddam died as a martyr. This encourages his followers, resulting in more fanatic fighters and more car bombs that will kill innocent civilizians.
3) Iraq is already on the verge of civil war, and last thing that Iraq currently needs is more hostilities.

Yeah, I agree with you.

I don't think there was any rush to do this. They could have at least backed off on executing him for a few more weeks.
I still think they did this to coincide with the Hajj.

[Platty]

Yeah, I agree with you.

I don't think there was any rush to do this. They could have at least backed off on executing him for a few more weeks.
I still think they did this to coincide with the Hajj.

But the law stated after the appeal they would have to carry out the execution within a certain timescale...think it was 48 hours or so.

[Fierce_LiNk]

But the law stated after the appeal they would have to carry out the execution within a certain timescale...think it was 48 hours or so.

Really? Ok, cheers for clearing that up.

[Platty]

Really? Ok, cheers for clearing that up.

Yeah, not sure where I heard that now, but was on a radio station I had on yesterday so either xfm or virgin.

[Zechs Merquise]

My point was that you seem to be justifying totalitarianism in the context of the violence that came after it.
I'm not condoning the absurd 'War on Terror' bullshit, far from it. Saddam was nothing more than a vicious minded tyrant who murdered hundreds of his own people. The way he was deposed was far from ideal, granted, but it doesn't change the fact that he deserved to go.

The justification for that regime was that it held the country together, the violence that came after it did not justify it, what justified it was that the violence did not come during it. Yes he gassed sections of the Kurdish population, which is not right, but I feel the price that will ultimately be paid in the lives of far many more Iraqi dead will greatly outweigh that.

Plus, as has been pointed out already in this topic, a large portion of the Iraqi population idolised him and backed him all the way. No 'dictatorship' exists without a sizeable percentage of the people in that country supporting it or it is quickly over thrown from within.

frankly, your argument is starting to sound like sensationalist teenie politics, Zechs. there's far more to it than 'ZOMG! OIL!'

I don't think pointing out that oil, and effectively western greed and materialism, was the driving force behind that war is teenie politics. I would argue the teenie politics is espoused by those who are screaming 'OMG the witch is dead, I believe he was the most evil man in the wold, yay he's gone'.

I'm quite positive that over the next few days there will be propaganda pictures of Iraqis celebrating, all of which will not show the size and scope of any celebration, because any celebrations will be minor and/or staged.

I believe that had Saddam by some miracle actually survived that war and driven out the 'invaders' there would have been much greater celebrations in the streets of Baghdad...

[Dan Dare]

If people idolised Saddam, it was down to the fact that he controlled the media in Iraq. Just look at North Korea for an example. Everybody in the world recognises that Kim Jon is a fucking nutcase, but the very people who's country he is destroying idolise him. Why? because of indoctrination and propaganda. You simply cannot use public 'support' as a means of examining a man like Saddam.

[Zechs Merquise]

If people idolised Saddam, it was down to the fact that he controlled the media in Iraq. Just look at North Korea for an example. Everybody in the world recognises that Kim Jon is a fucking nutcase, but the very people who's country he is destroying idolise him. Why? because of indoctrination and propaganda. You simply cannot use public 'support' as a means of examining a man like Saddam.

Well, I suppose, especially as that would be most easily applied to George Bush, he's probably the most hated man on the planet, especially in places like the Middle East - but around half of all Americans will vote for him next time around lol.

I'm not so sure of your media control theories though in places like the Middle East, as frankly TVs etc are not as common, and the media doesn't have the vice like grip on society as it does in the West.

Plus like I said earlier, look to the example of the Soviet Union, that had the most controlled society in the world, yet that fell. As have many other regimes, maybe the fact that regimes like the Taliban and Iraq under the Ba'ath party weren't quite as unpopular as our media lead us to believe.

[mariosmentor]

Now the real question is who will ol' USA go for next.

I mean, if this wasn't just about oil and they really did want to knock big bad Saddam out of power does that make them defender of the world?
In that case shouldn't the US troups be moving elsewhere?

I mean Saddam wasn't the only mass murdering leader in power right now, there are alot of bad people out there. So will america move on and liberate the world until everybody is eating hotdogs from street vendors and praising christ? And once he's finished cleansing the world from evil will he execute himself for all the lives he's taken?

And more importantly should america be allowed to march into random countries, mostly against the wishes of the european union and announce "Invasion!" under completely false pretenses.
Just to get some murderer. Seems very noble.
With the amount of murderers and violent crimes in the US you'd think they'd concentrate there first. Thats probably the next step after taking down North Korea.

Just wait for the next one, history is repeating itself. The gulf of tonkin has been reiterated with the WMD search.
Next time it'll be a proper Vietnam disaster.


And yeah, I'll be getting popcorn in for the Saddam video. It'll be like a medieval day out with the family...except with more popcorn.

[Zechs Merquise]

Now the real question is who will ol' USA go for next.

I mean, if this wasn't just about oil and they really did want to knock big bad Saddam out of power does that make them defender of the world?
In that case shouldn't the US troups be moving elsewhere?

I mean Saddam wasn't the only mass murdering leader in power right now, there are alot of bad people out there. So will america move on and liberate the world until everybody is eating hotdogs from street vendors and praising christ? And once he's finished cleansing the world from evil will he execute himself for all the lives he's taken?

And more importantly should america be allowed to march into random countries, mostly against the wishes of the european union and announce "Invasion!" under completely false pretenses.
Just to get some murderer. Seems very noble.
With the amount of murderers and violent crimes in the US you'd think they'd concentrate there first. Thats probably the next step after taking down North Korea.

Just wait for the next one, history is repeating itself. The gulf of tonkin has been reiterated with the WMD search.
Next time it'll be a proper Vietnam disaster.


And yeah, I'll be getting popcorn in for the Saddam video. It'll be like a medieval day out with the family...except with more popcorn.

Excellent post! Place your bets here... my money's on Iran, under the pretence of their nuclear tests and for the actual reason of oil.

North Korea is a difficult call to make, and China is a no way.

[Adrian DX]

Imo. the bastard got what he desvered if not less than what he deserved. But I think it should have taken place years earlier, this guy has been killing so many people and creating paranoia and fear for so many people that it was about time they found and killed him.

Now lets celebrate and play some Wii! (^^,)

[Dan Dare]

Thing is though, is that Iran is under the control of a batshit loony nutball bastard who probably would nuke Israel given the chance.

not that I'd support an invasion, really. Unless Tehran really goes mental and threatens to use nukes.

Iran is also home to a genuinely progressive, secular left wing. It's only a matter of time before they gain enough support to eliminate the raving mad mullahs and such.

[Max]

Yeah, I agree with you.

I don't think there was any rush to do this. They could have at least backed off on executing him for a few more weeks.
I still think they did this to coincide with the Hajj.

thus making it a double eid for people like me.

and iraq is not even near on being in civil war, the problems are only in 3 out of 18 provinses so i wouldnt say its as bad as the media proclaims it to be. its only Baghdad, Anbar, Salahideen and Diyahla. the only reason the problems exists there is because sunnis are there, much like cancer, damages whats around it because of refusal to handel the truth.

[Bren]

Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

[Platty]

Found this video which is moments before the hanging:

http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=bd67afbc-97e5-11db-87ff-0003ba99c53b

[bob]

OMG they found Saddam Hussain!!! When did this happen!!?!?!

[arab_freak]

Saddam... Come In

Saddam?

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/11365000/ngbbs4596362652215.jpg

I thought it was funny.

[Tellyn]

I thought this would be a fitting tribute to Saddam.

Ding Dong, Saddam is dead...!

[Caris]

All the Sadam footage here:

May i just say dont watch if you get easly scared etc, its horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhapA4eDuYM

[Atomic Boo]

I guess Iraq is much like the old Germany. The public had nothing to turn to other than hitler because they were too scared to go against him. Saddam Hussein is no different. Now that he is dead, people may feel justice has been done because he deserved it. But he will still have 'followers' using terrorism against the country and they will plan more attacks elsewhere.

However, the West has mostly put this sort of thing behind them and they control the economy, whereas the middle-east is still stuck with our past ways.

[Haden]

All the Sadam footage here:

May i just say dont watch if you get easly scared etc, its horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhapA4eDuYM

lol thats classic. :grin:

I guess Iraq is much like the old Germany. The public had nothing to turn to other than hitler because they were too scared to go against him. Saddam Hussein is no different. Now that he is dead, people may feel justice has been done because he deserved it. But he will still have 'followers' using terrorism against the country and they will plan more attacks elsewhere.

However, the West has mostly put this sort of thing behind them and they control the economy whereas the middle-east is still stuck with our past ways.

The thing is though in 1991 loads of people went against him. 300,000 people are still missing in Iraq. He drained some marshalnds that had been inhabited for 5000 years by settlers forcing ttem to Iran. People went against him but he beat them down bad. We are so lucky to live in Europe this shit is all to common all over the world.

[Shino]

I just wanna say that he's no martyr. Ktks.

[Goron_3]

And he's dead. Thank-bloody-god for that! He deserved it.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

He was a piece of shit, plain and simple. You should avoid sanitising his regime in light of what has happened since.

That is actually quite incorrect, as there are clearly some shades of grey in Saddam's reign. He was clearly insane fuckhead, but he was also solely responsible forthe fact that 90 percent of Iraqians can read. During early 70's he established new school network, granted free hospitalization to everyone, and gave subsidies to farmers. Iraq did have one of world's most modernized public-health systems, and in fact, Saddam even got prize from UNESCO for his humanitarian work.

In addition of these improvements, Saddam was also responsible for Iraq's shift from agriculture to heavy industry. He also improved woman's rights and basically said big "fuck you" to islam extremists. In fact, before Gulf War, Iraq was both richest and most progressive country in the area. There is good reason why many Iraqians do idolize him.

[demonmike04]

Just watched the video myself on google video, he deserved it.

[arab_freak]

THIS IS NOT A JOKE

This was recorded by a witnesses' phonecam, and it's 100% real. It shows how Saddam was hanged, and you can hear someone say "To hell with you!". Saddam kept repeating "I bare witness that there is no God but God, and Mohammed is his messenger" until he was hanged.

DOWNLOAD:
http://www.anwarweb.net/saddamdown.wmv

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4750/saddamdi2.jpg

[bob]

DOWNLOAD IT NOW

No.

Don't order me about.

[arab_freak]

No.

Don't order me about.

K. I'm YouTubin' it anyway.

[bob]

hehe, amended, for politeness. Thank you.

[arab_freak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZS-rr0R9tA

hehe, amended, for politeness. Thank you.

I just said "Download it now" as a way of saying "Download it before someone removes it or the bandwidth gets too high.

[Atomic Boo]

^ Its been taken down i think

[bob]

Oh i see, well then, i apologise profusely for my rudeness.

[Blackfox]

The videos only show upto when the noose gets put on his head. I doubt someone could have snook a videophone into there. The whole thing looks pretty unorganised tbh.. :/

[arab_freak]

^ Its been taken down i think

The download link? I dunno, it downloaded normally using FireFox. YouTube keeps telling me to wait for the video to process, which is weird because my first video uploaded instantly.

[demonmike04]

Youtubes on alert for those video's, many have been taken down.

[arab_freak]

I guess that's why it's "being processed".

[Max]

most of the people present are mutada al-sadr supporters who were the most to be tourtured by saddam. what goes around, comes around.

the executions was carried out in the secret inteligence (sp?) (mukhabarat) 5th devision where saddam executed most of the people during his time of rule.

nice to see him come to an end! now bring on barzan and chemical ali.

Edit: apparently his death was painless and quick, the drop causes the neck to break and so instant death. should the neck survive, the person will suffucate leading to death.

[or else you will DIE]

I started watching the video but I had to turn it off as they put it over his head. fuck that shit.

[Bren]

Now that America has gotten rid of Sadam, they shall turn upon their new enemys, Canada. Their shall then be a world war, and sadam will rise again! Along with satan :D

- - - - -

And that video is mad, glad to see he's dead. fucker.

[Maiky-NiSuTe]

sadam brutely hanged hundreds of people with even famaly that were forsed in seeing it. this is what he diserved. altough i am not in favor of the death penalty. (i would rather see him suffer)

[Zechs Merquise]

That is actually quite incorrect, as there are clearly some shades of grey in Saddam's reign. He was clearly insane fuckhead, but he was also solely responsible forthe fact that 90 percent of Iraqians can read. During early 70's he established new school network, granted free hospitalization to everyone, and gave subsidies to farmers. Iraq did have one of world's most modernized public-health systems, and in fact, Saddam even got prize from UNESCO for his humanitarian work.

In addition of these improvements, Saddam was also responsible for Iraq's shift from agriculture to heavy industry. He also improved woman's rights and basically said big "fuck you" to islam extremists. In fact, before Gulf War, Iraq was both richest and most progressive country in the area. There is good reason why many Iraqians do idolize him.

Very interesting post, makes a change for the juvenile 'the witch is dead posts'

One thing that Bush and Blair aren't too quick to spill the beans on is that both the Uk and the US funded him because as you stated Iraq was a Secular state and was not a Muslim state like Afghanistan or Iran.

Same is true of Bin Laden the West funded, trained and supplied him and his terrorists, that's why they are effective and have such good resources. They were originally helped by the US when Afghanistan was occupied by Soviet troops.

[Cube]

They stuck him down, and he will now become more powerful than they could ever imagine.



Just wait for it....

[Wesley]

He shouldn't of been hung.

[Haden]

That video was horrific. Still glad I watched it.

[scubahood]

Are there actually videos showing the hanging? Would of clicked the links but im eating a burger at the mo

[Platty]

Yeah there are but looks like it has been filmed with a mobile phone.

[scubahood]

Anyone got working links

[arab_freak]

Keep it to the PMs - we can;t really have that on here..

[Adrian DX]

Now that America has gotten rid of Sadam, they shall turn upon their new enemys, Canada. Their shall then be a world war, and sadam will rise again! Along with satan :D

- - - - -

And that video is mad, glad to see he's dead. fucker.

If we don't see a death ad in the papers for a boy named Kenny McCormic who died while setting fire on a fart.

If we don't we're all f***** :heh:

[Twozzok]

Yes there is a video of the full hanging, no you don't see much. He falls, you here a loud crack, either his neck breaking or the rope becoming taught really quickly. The camera then shows him with his neck at a 90 degree angle to his body. Thats it. Thats all there is, and it was done on a camera phone.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Yes there is a video of the full hanging, no you don't see much. He falls, you here a loud crack, either his neck breaking or the rope becoming taught really quickly. The camera then shows him with his neck at a 90 degree angle to his body. Thats it. Thats all there is, and it was done on a camera phone.

To be honest, what more could there be?
I couldn't make out the end bit with the body on the floor. I could just make out the head. But then, I'm really blind.

Not a video you want to watch after your dinner, people. Also, its pretty disturbing. Hearing the crack. Just...man. There isn't words to describe that.

[Tellyn]

They stuck him down, and he will now become more powerful than they could ever imagine.



Just wait for it....

Obi Wan quote ftw.

[or else you will DIE]

Just reading that makes me sick

[Bren]

There isn't words to describe that.

Their is, Justice.

Fucker deserved it. I enjoyed watching it, bit too nice for him tho. Should of done something that is long and painful.

[Cube]

Their is, Justice.

Fucker deserved it.

The "fucker" did not deserve to die as a martyr...

[Shino]

The "fucker" did not deserve to die as a martyr...

He did not die as a martyr! Just because he said that in fear of his death doesn't make him one. He died as criminal.

[Zygo Ape]

Who thinks hes a Martyr? All his Iraqi followers will be probably going to the same place he just has in a few months.

Most Iraqi people are celebrating, afterall he DID commit mass murder against other countries aswell as the Iraqi people.

[Cube]

Who thinks hes a Martyr? All his Iraqi followers will be probably going to the same place he just has in a few months.

Possibly, but the hanging would of given them a LOT of fuel...and I have a horrible feeling that it will last a very long time.

Hope I'm wrong, tho.

[Shino]

Possibly, but the hanging would of given them a LOT of fuel...and I have a horrible feeling that it will last a very long time.

Hope I'm wrong, tho.

What doesn't? They're Muslims.

[Fierce_LiNk]

What doesn't? They're Muslims.

Hehe, I chuckled.

But seriously, we/they ain't all bad.

I think it could be justice enough for the families of those he killed, for them to know that he can no longer do any more damage to any people.

[Cube]

I think it could be justice enough for the families of those he killed, for them to know that he can no longer do any more damage to any people.

But then his people (who probably carried out most of said damage) still can...

[Fierce_LiNk]

But then his people (who probably carried out most of said damage) still can...

True, but they still make get their comeuppance.

[KKOB]

Soooo when's the DVD coming out? :p

[chhang7]

i dont get the point of all this media exposure where 7 pages of the news papers are dedicated to the hangin

[fanman]

i dont get the point of all this media exposure where 7 pages of the news papers are dedicated to the hangin

A famous dictator's hanging being filmed and shown to the world? Are you serious?

I saw the video from the phone. It was really crappy. You could hardly see anything.

[arab_freak]

YouTube finally approved of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZS-rr0R9tA

[fanman]

YouTube finally approved of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZS-rr0R9tA

I thought that would be the official one... just the crappy phone one again.

[Daft]

Stand up if its 2007...oh, unlucky!

[Flaight]

he killed ALOT of people. Its only right he should be killed himself.
That's a very dangerous line to walk. I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiments in itself, but still potentially cripplingly dangerous for the principles of justice.

[Ramar]

YouTube finally approved of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZS-rr0R9tA

Something about that video made me feel very strange. My heart was beating crazily, at one point I almost stopped watching it. I'm still shaking.


Was he still talking afterwards? Crazy **** die already!

[fanman]

Something about that video made me feel very strange. My heart was beating crazily, at one point I almost stopped watching it. I'm still shaking.


Was he still talking afterwards? Crazy **** die already!

That would be the people watching, of course.

[Ramar]

That would be the people watching, of course.

You're right, thought his lips were moving still.

Very eery video.

[That Guy]

i really don't know what to think of this . . .

Me niether.

[Blackfox]

I hear he has a terrible hangover....

In all seriousness, terribly unprofessional. They are hanging a former dictator - should mobile phones have reallty been allowed, ffs they are confiscated from weddings of celebs! Albert Pierrepoint would be spinning in his grave... (wikipedia him.. he would hang criminals in less than a minute...)

[Fierce_LiNk]

I hear he has a terrible hangover....

It's probably wrong to, but I had a chuckle to myself. Oh, foxy.


In all seriousness, terribly unprofessional. They are hanging a former dictator - should mobile phones have reallty been allowed, ffs they are confiscated from weddings of celebs! Albert Pierrepoint would be spinning in his grave... (wikipedia him.. he would hang criminals in less than a minute...)

Is there only footage from one phone? Or have there been more?

[Blackfox]

It's probably wrong to, but I had a chuckle to myself. Oh, foxy.

Yeah, weshouldn't laugh at jokes in which suspended sentances were handed down...



Is there only footage from one phone? Or have there been more?

No idea, but still, they should have all been searched....

[fanman]

Is there only footage from one phone? Or have there been more?

There was an official one that was released to the press, but it was only released up to just before he was actually hung.

I can't believe that they allowed someone to sit there with a phone though, if they wanted to have control over what people saw.

[Pyxis]

If some of you guys were a few years older, your opinions would change.

Its great that the guy is dead, they should have let him get stoned by the public though. What a sack of filth!:)

[Pesten]

People who think death penalty to be a proper way of punishment should go throw themself outside a bridge in my opinion. He would have suffered more if he sat in jail for the rest of his life. That´s more of a punishment. For him now, death seemed probably a releaf..

[fanman]

People who think death penalty to be a proper way of punishment should go throw themself outside a bridge in my opinion. He would have suffered more if he sat in jail for the rest of his life. That´s more of a punishment. For him now, death seemed probably a releaf..

It was done for the victims, and why should the taxpayers in iraq pay for someone who killed their relatives to site in prison all day? He deserved it.

[Max]

It was done for the victims, and why should the taxpayers in iraq pay for someone who killed their relatives to site in prison all day? He deserved it.

in iraq, prisioners get $30 a week in lost earning since the new goverment took office, doesnt matter if your conicted or not.


PS. there are no tax payers in iraq, only trade customs.

[Haden]

People who think death penalty to be a proper way of punishment should go throw themself outside a bridge in my opinion. He would have suffered more if he sat in jail for the rest of his life. That´s more of a punishment. For him now, death seemed probably a releaf..

throw themselves outside a bridge? :D Ah ok sorry your not english that just made me chuckle.

Don't you think its a bit ironic that you are wishing death on people who are pro death penalty (and Im not one of them). Thats if you are wishing that im still unclear.

[fanman]

in iraq, prisioners get $30 a week in lost earning since the new goverment took office, doesnt matter if your conicted or not.


PS. there are no tax payers in iraq, only trade customs.

You still have to pay living costs, which are a lot more than $30. Even if there aren't taxpayers, it's not really fair on the system to pay for someone like that.

[WOOP]

I find it dumb when the news presenters say "Hanged for crimes agaisnt humanity" Like hanging somone is very humain
Its kinda ironic.
But I guess he deserved it.
Maybe Bush should be "hanged for crimes agianst humanity" to

[fanman]

I find it dumb when the news presenters say "Hanged for crimes agaisnt humanity" Like hanging somone is very humain
Its kinda ironic.
But I guess he deserved it.
Maybe Bush should be "hanged for crimes agianst humanity" to

Bush should be hanged for crimes against intelligence.

[Max]

Bush should be hanged for crimes against intelligence.

ROFL

quote of the day.

[Mikey]

After seeing those be-headings on Ogrish.com, seeing that was a let down. Maybe I've been completely desensitised..

[Zechs Merquise]

After seeing those be-headings on Ogrish.com, seeing that was a let down. Maybe I've been completely desensitised..

lol awesome post, I've seen them too, so a guy hanging from a bit of rope like an old haggered tampon isn't gonna give me any sleepless nights.

That is actually quite incorrect, as there are clearly some shades of grey in Saddam's reign. He was clearly insane fuckhead, but he was also solely responsible forthe fact that 90 percent of Iraqians can read. During early 70's he established new school network, granted free hospitalization to everyone, and gave subsidies to farmers. Iraq did have one of world's most modernized public-health systems, and in fact, Saddam even got prize from UNESCO for his humanitarian work.

In addition of these improvements, Saddam was also responsible for Iraq's shift from agriculture to heavy industry. He also improved woman's rights and basically said big "fuck you" to islam extremists. In fact, before Gulf War, Iraq was both richest and most progressive country in the area. There is good reason why many Iraqians do idolize him.

Further to what you were saying,

Saddam saw himself as a social revolutionary and a modernizer, following the Nasser model. To the consternation of Islamic conservatives, his government gave women added freedoms and offered them high-level government and industry jobs. Saddam also created a Western-style legal system, making Iraq the only country in the Persian Gulf region not ruled according to traditional Islamic law (Sharia). Saddam abolished the Sharia law courts, except for personal injury claims.

Domestic conflict impeded Saddam's modernizing projects. Iraqi society is divided along lines of language, religion and ethnicity; Saddam's government rested on the support of the 20% minority of largely working class, peasant, and lower middle class Sunnis, continuing a pattern that dates back at least to the British mandate authority's reliance on them as administrators.

The Shi'a majority were long a source of opposition to the government's secular policies, and the Ba'ath Party was increasingly concerned about potential Sh'ia Islamist influence following the Iranian Revolution of 1979. The Kurds of northern Iraq (who are Sunni Muslims but not Arabs) were also permanently hostile to the Ba'athist party's pan-Arabism. To maintain his regime Saddam tended either to provide them with benefits so as to co-opt them into the regime, or to take repressive measures against them. The major instruments for accomplishing this control were the paramilitary and police organizations. Beginning in 1974, Taha Yassin Ramadan, a close associate of Saddam, commanded the People's Army, which was responsible for internal security. As the Ba'ath Party's paramilitary, the People's Army acted as a counterweight against any coup attempts by the regular armed forces. In addition to the People's Army, the Department of General Intelligence (Mukhabarat) was the most notorious arm of the state security system, feared for its use of torture and assassination. It was commanded by Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam's younger half-brother. Since 1982, foreign observers believed that this department operated both at home and abroad in their mission to seek out and eliminate Saddam's perceived opponents.[citation needed]

Saddam justified Iraqi nationalism by claiming a unique role of Iraq in the history of the Arab world. As president, Saddam made frequent references to the Abbasid period, when Baghdad was the political, cultural, and economic capital of the Arab world. He also promoted Iraq's pre-Islamic role as Mesopotamia, the ancient cradle of civilization, alluding to such historical figures as Nebuchadrezzar II and Hammurabi. He devoted resources to archaeological explorations. In effect, Saddam sought to combine pan-Arabism and Iraqi nationalism, by promoting the vision of an Arab world united and led by Iraq.

According to Britain's Foreign and Commonwealth Office, torture was systematic in Iraq under Saddam's regime.[15]

[ReZourceman]

That video was horrific. Still glad I watched it.

Word. It was weird. I guess its one of the very few times (only?) Ive seen someone die. Its weird to watch stuff like that.

Very evil dude, but I think leaving him to rot in "the shoe" for life would of been better.

Anyone got any other videos of people dieing? Im not a psycho, just its a strange feeling and Id be interested to watch me.

(Yeah I really do sound like a psycho)

[Mikey]

Google be-heading videos. Watch out, some of them are pretty bad.

[Ashley]

Please refrain from posting any videos of dying, execution (other than that in question), beheadding etc here.

I wouldn't really encourage looking at all but if people feel the need to find other way to communicate it, just don't post it in here.

[BlueStar]

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott has described the circumstances of Saddam Hussein's execution as "deplorable".
Mobile phone footage showed Saddam being told to "go to hell" by people attending the hanging, while the ex-leader mocks their "bravery".

Mr Prescott told the BBC those responsible for the scenes should be "ashamed of themselves".


Interesting that the people taunting him were chanting for Al-Sadr, who's Madhi Army has been responsible much of the bloodshed in Iraq with attacks on American troops and the Iraqi police.

[ReZourceman]

Oh Cist yeah! Sorry yeah PM me if you need to, obviously dont post. Sorry about that!

[Max]

Interesting that the people taunting him were chanting for Al-Sadr, who's Madhi Army has been responsible much of the bloodshed in Iraq with attacks on American troops and the Iraqi police.


that is so wrong, infact, its totally wrong.

The mehdi army fought US troops 2 times. since then, it joined the political process. it has not carried out any attacks against iraqi police or army. they have not carried out any bombings.

the only thing they do regarding violance is carry out kidnappings against sunnies, most of which support the "insurgency" where al mehdi sees it as revenge attacks in retaliation to the bombings carried out by some sunnies.

[BlueStar]

iit has not carried out any attacks against iraqi police or army.


Hundreds of militiamen linked to him battled local police in Amarah and destroyed police srtations. It was claimed that his men were ignring his orders to play nice, although this could be because the recent Western appeasement of him, switching from the previous painting him as a dangerous and brutal islamist nut job who wants an Iran style islamic theocracy into a legitimate part of the political process.

One of his senoir aides was arrested last year under suspicion of kidnappings and killing and he's previously said that the current US backed interim government are worse than Saddam. But his view of the US forces and the current leadership seems to chop and change as much as the western view of his militia does - it wasn't that long ago he was saying he'd attack Americans again if they attacked Iran.

[Max]

Hundreds of militiamen linked to him battled local police in Amarah and destroyed police srtations. It was claimed that his men were ignring his orders to play nice, although this could be because the recent Western appeasement of him, switching from the previous painting him as a dangerous and brutal islamist nut job into a legitimate part of the political process.

exactly, so they arnt opposed to the goverment, infact, they are with the goverment and have joined up with the army and police, seeing that there is no political resolution to protect the people from terror attacks, they carry move out without orders.

also keep in mind that sadrs group, from dawa party and onwords were the most oppressed people in the country, thus it would be resonalble for them to see saddams execution as a revenge act.

[BlueStar]

exactly, so they arnt opposed to the goverment,

See my edit above. he's said they've gone through three stages of resistances against the American occupation, passive, military and now political. Just because he's giving the ballot box a try for a bit rather than the AK doesn't make him any less opposed to the US backed interim government.

[Bren]

the be-heading videos are bad. Made me feel physically sick.

Badd shit

[Caris]

Msn me the link when you get back on.

[Slaggis]

i deserved everything he got the sick bastard....he killed 5000 people by gassing them...at least a quarter of them were children under the age of 7, (qoute from bbc news including pictures of people lying dead after they had been gassed)

There is one thing i am very angry about though...why didn;t they choose a more painful death for him. he got away lightly, the news says people heard the crack of his neck when he dropped. He dided instantly...more than i can say for the children he killed.

good riddance to bad, unwanted and evil rubbish.

[bob]

To be honest, i don't see the point in making him suffer. What difference is it going to make if he suffers for a few seconds, or dies instanly. Hes dead in the end whatever.

Making him suffer isnt going to bring any of the people he killed back alive.

[Jack]

If some of you guys were a few years older, your opinions would change.

Its great that the guy is dead, they should have let him get stoned by the public though. What a sack of filth!:)

Does anyone else want to field this one? My head hurts from banging it against the wall.

[AshMat]

That hanging video sucks anwyay, you can't even see him drop the camera keps moving about.

[Max]

That hanging video sucks anwyay, you can't even see him drop the camera keps moving about.

well excuse them for not having quinton tarentino direct the movie, im sure it would have been much better and goary!

[Haden]

Does anyone else want to field this one? My head hurts from banging it against the wall.

Life Experience and the fact that all young people are on pot means opinions will change.

[Jack]

Life Experience and the fact that all young people are on pot means opinions will change.

I'm exactly three days older than you, ergo I have more life experience. :P

[BlueStar]

My life experience taught me that civilized countries don't tend to have a justice system based on an emotional outlet for revenge and that stoning by lynch mob is usually the favoured activity of nutballs like the Taliban (Unless they're appearing in Rambo III, when they're heroic all-american freedom fighters)

[Jack]

I agree with BlueStar's life experience.

[Zechs Merquise]

My life experience taught me that civilized countries don't tend to have a justice system based on an emotional outlet for revenge and that stoning by lynch mob is usually the favoured activity of nutballs like the Taliban (Unless they're appearing in Rambo III, when they're heroic all-american freedom fighters)

Hahaha don't forget that America did fund the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden in that period. as at the time Afghanistan was occupied by Soviet Troops.

[Haden]

I'm exactly three days older than you, ergo I have more life experience. :P

Im sorry master :bowdown:

[BlueStar]

Hahaha don't forget that America did fund the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden in that period. as at the time Afghanistan was occupied by Soviet Troops.

I know, it's just funny to look back and see them portrayed as the heroic good guys, fighting alongside a true patriot hero for justice and freedom against the evil commies. Especially seeing as Sly supposedly said in 2001 that he wanted the plot of Rambo 4 to be him going over there to kill Bin Laden.

[ipaul]

i deserved everything he got

Someones not in the best of moods :shakehead

[Slaggis]

W O O P !

[WOOP]

W O O P !

what?:wtf:

[solitanze]

This has gotten only half the attention of Steve Irwins death, dozens of mock ups claiming to be the real thing, no where online is the actual footage and it most likely will never be featured online, at least not for a while.

[Ramar]

This has gotten only half the attention of Steve Irwins death, dozens of mock ups claiming to be the real thing, no where online is the actual footage and it most likely will never be featured online, at least not for a while.

Gameranking obviously has hosted the mobile phone video yet then.

[ReZourceman]

Shit. Seriously guys, I searched out a few beheading videos. Not really a good idea TBH, I thought/knew I could handle it but the second one I saw was 100% awful, horrifying. Not a method of beheading I was aware of.

Sick. Totally sick, I really didnt need to see it. I 100% recommend NOT watching any carp like I just saw. If you ever get the oppurtunity or get tempted - dont. It aint good.

If anyone wants to know why I was so horrified PM me, just dont go watching any.

[fanman]

Shit. Seriously guys, I searched out a few beheading videos. Not really a good idea TBH, I thought/knew I could handle it but the second one I saw was 100% awful, horrifying. Not a method of beheading I was aware of.

Sick. Totally sick, I really didnt need to see it. I 100% recommend NOT watching any carp like I just saw. If you ever get the oppurtunity or get tempted - dont. It aint good.

If anyone wants to know why I was so horrified PM me, just dont go watching any.

Can you PM me the links?

[Max]

Shit. Seriously guys, I searched out a few beheading videos. Not really a good idea TBH, I thought/knew I could handle it but the second one I saw was 100% awful, horrifying. Not a method of beheading I was aware of.

Sick. Totally sick, I really didnt need to see it. I 100% recommend NOT watching any carp like I just saw. If you ever get the oppurtunity or get tempted - dont. It aint good.

If anyone wants to know why I was so horrified PM me, just dont go watching any.


i saw one during the war against saddam and it sickened me. a US marien was killed and it scared me for life!

now do you know why it was important to have these people removed from power (taliband, alqaida, baathist/saddam folowers) ? they are pschotipathic basterds!

[fanman]

i saw one during the war against saddam and it sickened me. a US marien was killed and it scared me for life!

That's the one he was refering to... where they cut the guys head off. I had already seen it too.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

I heard they're bringing out a line of Saddam tee-shirts.
They're tight around the neck but the body hangs well :D
Anyone done this joke yet?

[Fierce_LiNk]

Shit. Seriously guys, I searched out a few beheading videos. Not really a good idea TBH, I thought/knew I could handle it but the second one I saw was 100% awful, horrifying. Not a method of beheading I was aware of.

Sick. Totally sick, I really didnt need to see it. I 100% recommend NOT watching any carp like I just saw. If you ever get the oppurtunity or get tempted - dont. It aint good.

If anyone wants to know why I was so horrified PM me, just dont go watching any.

Have to agree with ReZourceman here. This is definitely not going to be easy on your stomach. I PMed him for the links, and this stuff just makes you feel mentally ill. I mean, how could one person do such a thing to another? Horrible, horrible stuff.

[Shorty]

Can you PM me the links?
Probably the best example of both not listening to a word someone said and being unable to resist satisfying their curiosity.

[solitanze]

In spoiler box for people not wanting to read this [NO LINKS PROVIDED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS]:

I've seen a few beheading videos, in particular those of Eugene Armstrong and Jack Hensley. The Kenneth Bigley one I haven't seen as it seems to have been removed from the site that was originally hosting it. If anyones has a link to it, you can PM if you like, merely for comparison purposes, I certainly don't get enjoyment out of seeing people die though. These beheadings sparked a craze of inhumane acts against innocent people inspired by Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi, they suddenly ceased upon his death, at least ones being applied to westerners. Its not something that gave me sleepless nights but I didn't enjoy watching these people being tortured to the fullest extent literally having their heads cut off like a piece of wood using a blade. What would be most disturbing to the people that view these videos is that they are entirely conscious when the acts take place. Their heads are pulled back muzzling their mouth with the hand of one of the members of the group and they just cut through the neck and make sure they feel it hacking into it at a very fast pace. As they scream in pain, blood oozes rapidly like a fountain of water but whats most unpleasing is that it gets to a point where their heads are literally hanging on by a tiny bit of flesh and they're still alive. 30 solid seconds of the most horrific pain you could ever experience. Eugene Armstrongs beheading has been deemed as the most disturbing by the public, but you don't really get to see the pain on his face like you do with Jack Hensleys as his face is coated with blood entirely and is simply placed on the lower half of his body. Hensleys head on the other hand, you see parts of his face move as if hes still alive and you really get to see the horrific pain of the beheading with the expression on his face as the guy holds Jacks head in his hand with taunting Arabic victory like music playing in the background...

[ReZourceman]

Yeah Solitanze, the Eugene video is the one I saw, and it disturbed me. Horrifying, honestly horrifying.

[solitanze]

Yeah Solitanze, the Eugene video is the one I saw, and it disturbed me. Horrifying, honestly horrifying.

I think there might be another one by the name of Nick Berg, which was also taped. I haven't seen this one personally, but I think they actually play around with this head or something?? Kim Sun-il another one, haven't seen.

Shame about the instability in the Middle East. They have some of the best places/attractions in the world there...

[Eddage]

Why the hell would anybody actually want to see another person get killed, its just beyond belief!

[solitanze]

Why the hell would anybody actually want to see another person get killed, its just beyond belief!

Curiosity for the bulk of people. Satisfaction for a rare few, infatuation with violence for a select few also. Something to do to occupy some time for others...

[conzer16]

New video of Saddam after he was hanged.

It shows him lying in a gurney with a bloodied shroud covering his body.

It also shows a gaping wound in his neck below his chin.

EDIT by Platty: Not on my boards please. Keep it to MSN or something.

[Zell]

I don't understand how you can film an execution. No matter who it is, it is still unbelievably disrespectful.

[conzer16]

I don't understand how you can film an execution. No matter who it is, it is still unbelievably disrespectful.

Agreed.

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[solitanze]

New video of Saddam after he was hanged.

It shows him lying in a gurney with a bloodied shroud covering his body.

It also shows a gaping wound in his neck below his chin.



I think i've seen this video already, might view it again sometime.

[Eddage]

I think i've seen this video already, might view it again sometime.

BUt why the hell would you want to, it's just beyond belief!?

[Max]

I don't understand how you can film an execution. No matter who it is, it is still unbelievably disrespectful.

almost all constitutions around the world have execution documented and filmed. remeber the oclahoma bomber killed by lethal injection, mussolini of italy hanged live on TV, the ex-romanian PM ect.

its only reasonable to see justice carried out with the victoms present especially for mass murders and so not all the victomes can attend resulting in a televised public execution.

and thats why these things are filmed.

[fanman]

Probably the best example of both not listening to a word someone said and being unable to resist satisfying their curiosity.

Heh... I think we've all been guilty of that at some point...

[Haden]

New video of Saddam after he was hanged.

It shows him lying in a gurney with a bloodied shroud covering his body.

It also shows a gaping wound in his neck below his chin.



Ah man thats horrific. :hmm:

[Platty]

Please do not post videos of it on here. Keep it to private messages on MSN or something.