So whats all the fun and games with 8.8 Great?

[dannbrownn]

Hello, i like to enjoy humour that only 'gamers' and active forum user gamers really know about, such as the 'Giant Enemy Crab' 'Riiiiidge Racer' and the crazyness that is the 'Sony Defence Force'

For a while i have wandered what all the mentions of 8.8 Great are about, i think it's from the ratings off gamespot, do they give that rating to alot of thing?

Is there no joke at all about 8.8 Great? Am i just reading into it to much?!


PS. Sorry for putting this here but i didn't know where this topic would fit in, so to give it a wii related part... Didn't twilight princess get 8.8 Great?

[ReZourceman]

Yeah its about Twilight Princess getting 8.8 Great rating, when clearly its a 9+ game.


Heh.

[Shorty]

How did you miss that :heh: the whole internet shook when Gamespot gave TP that rating.

[Nintendork]

Jesus fucking christ- shut up.

[Sexual Chocolate]

why do you shit on everyone in all the threads you reply in?

[solitanze]

Query answered, now theres no real need for this thread to remain open for posting.

LOCK THREAD.

[ReZourceman]

Jesus fucking christ- shut up.

I think Im getting psychic powers.


Somehow I knew this was Nintendorks post without looking at the poster info tab.

[Charlie]

Query answered, now theres no real need for this thread to remain open for posting.

LOCK THREAD.

I'll be the judge of that, thank you.

Why should it be closed just because the topic is over? Some people have finished Zelda, so should the Zelda topic be closed?

[dannbrownn]

Ah Now i Sii! Said the blind man.

I don't know how i missed that! What a fool i feel... oh no wait... i actually feel like a right 'fuxxing n00b!'

[Tellyn]

I'll be the judge of that, thank you.

Why should it be closed just because the topic is over? Some people have finished Zelda, so should the Zelda topic be closed?

When I first saw your AV I laughed my head off.

http://www.n-europe.com/forum/customavatars/avatar199_8.gif

Classic.

[Haden]

Query answered, now theres no real need for this thread to remain open for posting.

LOCK THREAD.

We all know its you that did it! Its a cover up. Oh I want Zelda to score so high wa wa wa etc. Then you predicted the 8.8! A bit conivinient isnt it?

























ISNT IT!

































ISNT ITTTT!!!

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

Gamespot gave Zelda 8.8 because of very real flaws in the game.
Selfish children spat their collective dummies out because of this.

[blender]

The truth is out there

[Zero]

I thought it should have got more than 8.8 but i've not read any of their reviews so, I wouldn't know if they could review properly

IGN sure can't.

[fanman]

Gamespot gave Zelda 8.8 because of very real flaws in the game.
Selfish children spat their collective dummies out because of this.

The flaws are minute. The game is one of the best ever made, and didn't deserve 8.8. These "selfish children" are laughing at the stupidity of it.

[Mr. Bananagrabber]

The flaws are minute. The game is one of the best ever made, and didn't deserve 8.8. These "selfish children" are laughing at the stupidity of it.

Not the ridiculous fools who were spouting awful comments at the review and the reviewer before they had actually played the game.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Not the ridiculous fools who were spouting awful comments at the review and the reviewer before they had actually played the game.

Some of the comments were stupid, I agree with that.

However, I think the review itself was questionable. I'm not going to go into great detail about it, but others have suggested that gamespot have done this to get more "hits" or to cause a stir. They certainly did that, but they've also ruined some of their credibility.

[motion]

Zelda TP has some serious flaws that make for a disappointing ZELDA game, but as an all round game, it deserves a 10.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Zelda TP has some serious flaws that make for a disappointing ZELDA game, but as an all round game, it deserves a 10.

If its a disappointing Zelda game, and it still deserves a 10, what do you give a score to a good zelda game?

In this day and age, should we really take reviews all that seriously?

[motion]

Overall gaming score: OoT: 10 - TP: 10
In relation to all Zeldas: OoT/MM: 10 - TP: 8.8

(in my opinion of course)

[Fierce_LiNk]

Overall gaming score: OoT: 10 - TP: 10
In relation to all Zeldas: OoT/MM: 10 - TP: 8.8

(in my opinion of course)

Yeah, but thats not really how reviews work. When Gamespot review this game, it should be reviewed on its own merits. Yes, if it hasnt progressed, mention it, mark it down, whatever they feel is necessary.

But, you can't have 2 review scores for one game. We don't see a Fifa score compared to other games, and then a score compared to past Fifas. Its just one all accomodating review verdict.

It can easily confuse some readers. For example, didn't Gears of War get a 9.4?

If Gears got a 9.4, and TP got 8.8, does this mean gears is an all round better game? But, if this is a disappointing zelda but still deserves a 10, where does that place it in contention with other games?

See, its one huge mess. :)

[motion]

Ah but see I think TP deserves a 10 in every professional review, my 8.8 score would be among Zelda fandom when we're comparing this installment with others.

[c0Zm1c]

Initially I thought 8.8 was very reasonable. A good score like that was never going to put me off buying the game, and neither should it have anyone else. But after playing the game, realising how much better it is than the review had me expecting, and then comparing it with other games Gamespot have scored similarly that have more serious flaws - Kameo: Elements Of Power comes to mind, which they gave 8.7, a good game but nowhere near as good as Twilight Princess - it becomes apparent that they really did the dirty on Twilight Princess.

Gamespot's review simply doesn't feel consistent with their own reviewing standards. Then again, maybe it is? Had this game been on the Xbox 360 and had next-gen graphics, I'm sure it would have received a more deserving review and a score in the high 90's. :indeed:

[Shorty]

Zelda is flawed, but not enough to take over 1/10th of its score. This is the first time I've given my verdict on the 8.8 since actually playing the game, and I can see that it's foolish. The graphics are not next-gen, and I turned the pointer and wii-mote speaker sounds off out of pure annoyance - plus it's not as long as I expected. Weigh that against its redeeming features (epic size, fun, innovative, new ideas, surprises, great story, dark atmosphere... you get the idea) and it deserves to lose no more than 0.6 points.

There's still no doubt whatsoever for me that it was done for attention.

[Domstercool]

Meh, just sit down and enjoy it and don't complain. It shouldn't be messing with your judgement of the game when playing it.

[motion]

I'll complain if I want thanks. A game I've been waiting for for 3+ years should have been better than what it is.

[solitanze]

MOTION2000: I'll complain if I want thanks. A game I've been waiting for for 3+ years should have been better than what it is.

As I near my impending retirement at this forum, my successor has possibly arrived.

[Cookyman]

As I near my impending retirement at this forum, my successor has possibly arrived.


Impending retirement! - best news I've heard all year on here! :santa:

[or else you will DIE]

Was the funniest game moment in history.

[Domstercool]

I'll complain if I want thanks. A game I've been waiting for for 3+ years should have been better than what it is.

I was speaking to all the people complaining about the score. They shouldn't let it bother them. They should just play it themselves and not have some sort of "8.8" stuck in their head while playing.

[c0Zm1c]

Meh, just sit down and enjoy it and don't complain. It shouldn't be messing with your judgement of the game when playing it.
You're right, Gamespot's review shouldn't be messing with people's judgement of the game. And for me it hasn't. But there isn't anything wrong with discussing it, is there? This forum is here for discussing anything related to the Wii is it not?

[mcj metroid]

if anything an 8.8 score would make me enjoy it more... instead of playing the game and thinking 'is this as good as the reviews make it sound'.You can play it and think this is much better than i thought
i have yet to play the game and will make my judgement then.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I was speaking to all the people complaining about the score. They shouldn't let it bother them. They should just play it themselves and not have some sort of "8.8" stuck in their head while playing.

You're right, it shouldn't bother them.

But, the fact is, a review score clearly has an influence. One fine example: Red Steel.

That title was one of the most anticipated titles for any Wii owner. When the reviews started coming out, especially the negative reviews, isn't it surprising how many people then turned their back on this game?

How many times in the last month have we heard "well, I was getting Red Steel, but I heard its shit/the controls are shit."

Where have they 'heard' this from? I wonder.

[Cookyman]

You're right, it shouldn't bother them.

But, the fact is, a review score clearly has an influence. One fine example: Red Steel.

That title was one of the most anticipated titles for any Wii owner. When the reviews started coming out, especially the negative reviews, isn't it surprising how many people then turned their back on this game?

How many times in the last month have we heard "well, I was getting Red Steel, but I heard its shit/the controls are shit."

Where have they 'heard' this from? I wonder.


Yeah i was looking forward to it and then didn't bother getting it due to the amount of mixed reviews - like I said before Red Steel is the Marmite of video games you either love ot or hate it! :santa:

[Domstercool]

You're right, it shouldn't bother them.

But, the fact is, a review score clearly has an influence. One fine example: Red Steel.

That title was one of the most anticipated titles for any Wii owner. When the reviews started coming out, especially the negative reviews, isn't it surprising how many people then turned their back on this game?

How many times in the last month have we heard "well, I was getting Red Steel, but I heard its shit/the controls are shit."

Where have they 'heard' this from? I wonder.


True, but Red Steel isn't Zelda. Zelda will sell to the Nintendo people no matter what it scored. :D But serious, a 8.8 isn't enough to turn people away from a game anyway. If you're some guy who only buys 9.0+ games, then you are silly.

[Fierce_LiNk]

True, but Red Steel isn't Zelda. Zelda will sell to the Nintendo people no matter what it scored. :D

Aye, that's true. :)

I wonder what would really happen if a Zelda title started getting 6's and 7's. At the end of the day, 8.8 is a reasonable score, just not as high as some of us were expecting. But then, what's a .1 or a .2 anyway.

If you're some guy who only buys 9.0+ games, then you are silly.

Yeah, I really don't understand that. Sure, we all want to play the best games, but does every game we play have to be a classic? Some of my favourite games are not considered classics.

[Haden]

The thing is it is wrong if it was jsut for a look at me 8.8 etc. I agree people shouldnt obsess about it but I reckon the game clearly isnt an 8.8 by Gamespot standards.

[mcj metroid]

a .1 and .2 mean a lot.There is a huge difference between 8.9 and 9.0 for instance.
9.0 suggests a classic game and that's the score it starts on.Whereas 8.9 is just a really good game with something stopping it becoming classic i think

[c0Zm1c]

But serious, a 8.8 isn't enough to turn people away from a game anyway.
Yeah, that's basically what I said. :)

[Domstercool]

Well I agree that it should of scored higher too. I've loved it so far. For me, when I see the score I just think "Meh" that's pretty much it, lol.

I'm sure they are some classic games out there that have scored less than 9.0 and been bloody awesome.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Well I agree that it should of scored higher too. I've loved it so far. For me, when I see the score I just think "Meh" that's pretty much it, lol.

There's rarely a review where the reviewer has got it spot on, imo. It's still only one person's opinion.
I've been enjoying the game too much to care. It just...bugs me why so many get wound up about it.
"OMG. Terrible score. Not a 9, so I wont be buying it."

Naaaah.

[Mikey]

Not everyone is gonna give X game a high score no matter how good the majority think it is. People are just gonna have to deal with it, and move on. Gamespot gave Rainbow Six Lockdown on PC an 8 out of 10. In my opinion, and in many other's opinions, the game is a piece of shit. Some people just give out weird scores, nothing you can do about it.

[Solo]

This game actually got a lower rating than Wind Waker! (although I loved that game) I have yet to play TP so I can't predict the score.

[AshMat]

On topic. Internet joke things i don't get are these epic thread quotes. OMFG A LION or whatever it is..

[Cube]

The main thing about the "8.8" wasn't the review or the actual score, the whole thing is basically the way OTT reaction from some Zelda fanatics.

Also, It's all opinionated. I don't think TP is worth anywhere near as "low" (even though its high) as 8.8, and I dare not say what I think does deserve that score.

[Emasher]

Hello, i like to enjoy humour that only 'gamers' and active forum user gamers really know about, such as the 'Giant Enemy Crab' 'Riiiiidge Racer' and the crazyness that is the 'Sony Defence Force'

i've herd these a million times but i guess i missed the explanation. (joined up just to late)

so what are these jokes about.

[c0Zm1c]

They're about this -> Sony's Embarrassing E3 2006 Press Conference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4). :laughing:

[fanman]

This game actually got a lower rating than Wind Waker! (although I loved that game) I have yet to play TP so I can't predict the score.

That's where the reaction comes from, not because it's zelda and it didn't get a 9.5+ score.

[solitanze]

Impending retirement! - best news I've heard all year on here! :santa:

Still not official, its impending as I haven't made an official decision/announcement yet.

[Cookyman]

Still not official, its impending as I haven't made an official decision/announcement yet.


Damn - I better put the champagne away then! :santa:

[raven_blade2006]

As im currently playing Zelda:TP, I can see clearly now why Gamespot gave it an 8.8 rating.









Because they are absolute idiots! Thats why...

[Shorty]

True, but Red Steel isn't Zelda. Zelda will sell to the Nintendo people no matter what it scored. :D But serious, a 8.8 isn't enough to turn people away from a game anyway. If you're some guy who only buys 9.0+ games, then you are silly. We can't all have games collections like yours Dom :indeed: - bearing in mind most games cost £30-50, I can't really afford to get games that don't score highly. The occasional exception would be SSX World Tour, because I liked SSX3, SA2 because I loved Sonic and wanted another GC launch game, PSO because I liked the concept... that's about it for a while.

People have used examples of badly rated games and how it put them off, for me it's more likely to be the other way around. If I see a game get over 9.5 somewhere like ign, chances are I'll consider it. Example: Resident Evil 4. I wasn't a big fan of the RE series and I hadn't been following the game at all - I had no idea how it looked, how it played, what it was about... but when I saw it getting scores like 9.8 I picked it up because I knew it would be good.

Zelda deserves a score that could do the same thing if you didn't already know about the series.

[Haden]

We can't all have games collections like yours Dom :indeed: - bearing in mind most games cost £30-50, I can't really afford to get games that don't score highly. The occasional exception would be SSX World Tour, because I liked SSX3, SA2 because I loved Sonic and wanted another GC launch game, PSO because I liked the concept... that's about it for a while.

People have used examples of badly rated games and how it put them off, for me it's more likely to be the other way around. If I see a game get over 9.5 somewhere like ign, chances are I'll consider it. Example: Resident Evil 4. I wasn't a big fan of the RE series and I hadn't been following the game at all - I had no idea how it looked, how it played, what it was about... but when I saw it getting scores like 9.8 I picked it up because I knew it would be good.

Zelda deserves a score that could do the same thing if you didn't already know about the series.


Bang on the money. I own no Res games apart from Res 4 which I brought on the strengh of reviews. If its a game that I know nothing about first hand (Red Steel is a new franchise) reviews are going to be damn important.

And some people might not know about Zelda to. Who am I kidding! Still 8.8 = attention whore.

[ReZourceman]

See, Ive been tempted by Resi 4. Should I get it? Sell it to me. (Not literally)

[Dog-amoto]

Zelda TP should have been 7.9'd :p

There's another internet joke for you...for those who don't know, Matt at IGN gave Double Dash a 7.9 and was nearly lynched for it!

[mcj metroid]

, Matt at IGN gave Double Dash a 7.9 and was nearly lynched for it!

well that deserved it.Was the worst mario kart ever.Coulnt believe how small the game was.I have yet to find a matt review i disagree with.I trust him

[c0Zm1c]

Gamespot gave it 7.9 too, and it got a 5 in EDGE.

I like Double Dash myself, but I agree that it's the worst MK - of those I've played that is. I've yet to play Mario Kart 64, just waiting for it to appear on the Virtual Console. :)

[Cube]

I like Double Dash myself, but I agree that it's the worst MK - of those I've played that is. I've yet to play Mario Kart 64, just waiting for it to appear on the Virtual Console. :)

Only get MK64 if you have 3 friends to regually play it with you.

[Nintendork]

Double Dash was a good idea, but poorly executed. I didn't enjoy it, but I think 7.9 is generous on Matt's behalf- EDGE's score is better, if not a little harsh. At least they tried something new with the series.

On another thread related note I think Zelda deserved the 9s it got, and I also think all the 10/10s were generous. 8.8 isn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be.
For me it is a 9/10 game- which is 0.2 away from GameSpot's score.. and 1.0 away from 1up's.

Maybe 1up rounded up from say 9.5 (perfectly reasonable score also)- maybe they were looking for hits- but it's not a 10.0 game.
Solely because there is not enough story- even though the story is good and very cinematic, as other people have noted it can dump you in another dungeon as soon as you get out of the first.
Where is the history?

[KKOB]

Its quality not quantity, and the variety in TP is its epicness.

[Nintendork]

Its quality not quantity, and the variety in TP is its epicness.
True enough, it's a huge world- I've just beat the lake Hylia boss and the world is beautiful- Nintendo have an awesome engine set for the next Zelda should they want to use it.

I think the comments that this Zelda has done nothing new in terms of gameplay are invalid, because the whole Twilight realm thing is awesome- as well as other items and the fundamental feature- playing with the Wiimote.

It would have felt more complete if we had all the history that was in Ocarina and a Link to the Past. I haven't played either of these yet- but both the titles suggest that history play a significant role.

Maybe they just wanted to distinguish it from the others a little more? I can't complain- I'm still relishing and trying to ration every bit of gameplay.

[c0Zm1c]

I think the comments that this Zelda has done nothing new in terms of gameplay are invalid, because the whole Twilight realm thing is awesome- as well as other items and the fundamental feature- playing with the Wiimote.

It would have felt more complete if we had all the history that was in Ocarina and a Link to the Past. I haven't played either of these yet- but both the titles suggest that history play a significant role.
That could be why you think the comments are invalid. I've not played those games either, but from what I've read, elements similar to the Twilight Realm in the latest game can be found in those older Zelda games - and done to better effect in A Link To The Past, apparently.

[KKOB]

That could be why you think the comments are invalid. I've not played those games either, but from what I've read, elements similar to the Twilight Realm in the latest game can be found in those older Zelda games - and done to better effect in A Link To The Past, apparently.

kinda right. i don't believe in the whole one story thing, or that any of them are linked properly just very very loosely thats why its a legend etc etc.

you should all go play LTTP or else you deserve to be shot!

[c0Zm1c]

I have it on GBA, and I'll get around to playing it ...one day. :hmm:

[KKOB]

I have it on GBA, and I'll get around to playing it ...one day. :hmm:

good lad, no time like the present . . .

[ReZourceman]

Maybe I should hunt out Link to the Past then.

[KKOB]

get it for GBA just because it'll be a lil cheaper and you can take it everywhere with you-god bless the GBA slot on the DS Lite :D:D:D

[ReZourceman]

get it for GBA just because it'll be a lil cheaper and you can take it everywhere with you-god bless the GBA slot on the DS Lite :D:D:D

I wish. Ive been hunting the Internet all morning. If I dont find it down town later (UBER Unlikely) Ill have to resort to Ebay. *Whimper*

[Cube]

you should all go play LTTP or else you deserve to be shot!

I will, if only Nintendo would hurry up and put the damn game on the VC..

[That Guy]

Without the score I agree with everything the review says. But for me, the flaws he lists are not enough to drag the game down by 1.2/10.

I'm loving this game so far, and I can't stand OOT. It really bores me to tears.

I just think that if you sat down and watched that review and nobody told you the score, you wouldn't have any issue with it, and thats the gripe many people have I think.

[KKOB]

Without the score I agree with everything the review says. But for me, the flaws he lists are not enough to drag the game down by 1.2/10.

I'm loving this game so far, and I can't stand OOT. It really bores me to tears.

I just think that if you sat down and watched that review and nobody told you the score, you wouldn't have any issue with it, and thats the gripe many people have I think.

exactly, the written and video review didn't match up to the score that was given.

[motion]

What I find funny is that the negative aspects of the game he lists I disagree with, yet I think he's missed a hell of a lot more wrong with the game if that makes sense.


I'm loving this game so far, and I can't stand OOT. It really bores me to tears.


If you get bored that easy, I wouldn't be looking forward to the second part of TP if I were you.

[Rummy]

Only get MK64 if you have 3 friends to regually play it with you.

I beg to differ, the single player cup modes tend to get pretty damn challenging later on! Of course, the single player is about 5% of the goodness and fun and giggles that is Multiplayer. Man, that game's multiplayer is classic. I changed my mind, don't get it unless you have at least one person to regularly play multiplayer with you.
Back to the original point of 8.8 great!(I had a dream about a can of beer with 8.8 units), because of this review, I actually found myself spending the first 3 dungeons and in between constantly thinking 'Is this better than OoT? Would OoT have done that? Hmm, but OoT had that too...' sort of thing, I couldn't help but spend my time comparing the two. Eventually I realised I was being silly and learned to appreciate the game for what it was. Whilst it isn't as 'Zelda' as other zeldas for me, it is one top notch game, seriously. Awesome, but I did feel there wasn't enough 'Zelda' in it, seemed a bit generic to me than others.

[c0Zm1c]

I'm getting Mario Kart 64 regardless of multiplayer opponents, to complete my Mario Kart collection. :)

[KKOB]

I'm getting Mario Kart 64 regardless of multiplayer opponents, to complete my Mario Kart collection. :)


just to reiterate a fact :-

MK: DS >>>>>>>> SMK >>>>>> MK: DD, MK: SC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MK 64

[motion]

Mario Kart DS better than SMK? Surely not.

[KKOB]

Mario Kart DS better than SMK? Surely not.

tis true, more tracks, more modes, 8 player multiplayer, online multiplayer, a computer that doesn't cheat that much all add up to a SMK beater.

[c0Zm1c]

just to reiterate a fact :-

MK: DS >>>>>>>> SMK >>>>>> MK: DD, MK: SC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MK 64
Opinion isn't fact, TakeoMiyazaki. Just because you have the Mario Kart games arranged into your own neat little order of preference, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to agree with you.

[KKOB]

Opinion isn't fact, TakeoMiyazaki. Just because you have the Mario Kart games arranged into your own neat little order of preference, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to agree with you.

hehe, just expressing my own opinion as fact-i returned to SMK after 10 years of having not played it and it just feels wrong-the DS version feels the most right to me. the 64 version was a slight let down and the graphics and cheating CPU didn't make me happy.

[ReZourceman]

Super Mario Kart is the worst one in my opinion. It feels very dated when you play it now.

[c0Zm1c]

So far, I've preferred the handheld versions. Namely because both GBA and DS Mario Kart games have more in the way of content than the home console versions, particularly for single players. That's not stopping me wanting the only game I've yet to play in a series I've always liked though.

[That Guy]

What I find funny is that the negative aspects of the game he lists I disagree with, yet I think he's missed a hell of a lot more wrong with the game if that makes sense.



If you get bored that easy, I wouldn't be looking forward to the second part of TP if I were you.

It was the opening couple of hours I didn't like, and just the general control of Link just felt loose. The opening to TP was a bit slow but I got passed it.

[Cube]

MK64 has some great tracks...it just feels as if the karts are engine-less (on 150cc), and Mario and the gang are walking them.

[That Guy]

I want to play F-Zero GX.