Opera Trial Channel Impressions

[taiomi]

like it, love it, hate it post what you think of the new browser!

[david.dakota]

Invisible....

[weeble182]

Cant find it, where is it??

[motion]

Nice transparency

[*Dalco*]

you can't find it because it ain't up yet

[motion]

Aw you ruined it!

[harribo]

What is the point in this thread other than to get our hopes up and then dissapoint us?

[motion]

sharpen our correct spelling eye?

[/ nando /]

It's actually not that great I'm afraid, it's really hard to find anything.. :hmm:

:bowdown:

[motion]

at least it's simple.

[*Dalco*]

i'm gnna give it till one, if it ain;t appeared by then (i doubt it will) i'm of to bed

[david.dakota]

The chap at NOE uploaded the VC games early, but instantly fell asleep before he aw the big red flashing button reading "Wii Opera Browser Upload - Press at 12 Midnight". What a fool.

[Miharu]

I just got Wiimail (the blue light) and it couldn't possibly be anything else than an update on Wii. It's 2.40 here so folks check out your Wii after 2.00 and you just might have the browser there.

[/ nando /]

..I think I shall wait and check in the morning, I'm getting pretty sleepy and deluded (I bought Need for Speed Carbon for the Wii with my brother.. :red:) but I'll give it a proper test drive (save your applause) for tomorrow, I'm too exhausted now (applaud)..

Shall hopefully wake up to Opera in the morning.. unless it's available real soon :D

..totally pointless post, I know.. but what are YOU *points* gonna do about it..

[david.dakota]

Surely all of euopre would be updated at the same time. We'd all use NOE servers, right?

[triforce_keeper]

So can someone clear this up for me, when the wii is asleep, does it automatically download the updates?

[ViPeR]

..totally pointless post, I know.. but what are YOU *points* gonna do about it..

Destroy the world as you know it.

[david.dakota]

Triforce, apparently not. The Forecast channel was manually updated by the user, with Nintendo sending a memo to all saying "hey, your forecast channel is ready, upload now" or words to that effect.

I read elsewhere that a manual update is bet because of bricking. However, I have no idea what bricking is.

[/ nando /]

Destroy the world as you know it.

..sorry, I didn't mean you.. I was pointing at that other dude.. yes.. YOU *points* ..yeh.. what are YOU gonna do about it..

ooo.. the Opera Browser is now available :yay:


..3,2,1.... you're back in the room.

(I don't even watch Little Britain)

[triforce_keeper]

Ok thanks mate. I thought this would be a perfect example of wiiconnect24? Oh well.

Man on x-mas day do I have to sit through 3 updates? Or more? NO THE PAIN!

[Dani]

how do you do the manual updating thing correctly?

I test my wifi, then signal test, then it asks about doing a system update, which i did, it said there no updates available and i had the most up to date stuff - no opera.

[Dyson]

Dum de dum, c'mon...I want my totally useless living room browsing...

[weeble182]

Wish it would hurry up, i want to look at naughty pictures on a nintendo console!!!
Ill give it till 2ish as im doing something else at the moment as well, but if its not up then ill have to wait until sunday night >_>

[/ nando /]

Ill give it till 2ish as im doing something else at the moment as well

..looking up naughty pictures the conventional way...?

[fanman]

Just downlaoded it. It's on the shop channel.

[weeble182]

Huzzahs it downloading, just have to go to the shop home page, and instead of choosing games, choose 'software' and its there!

[Dyson]

It's up! Downloading now. Next post will be from my Wii :P

[thirtynine.]

why oh why is the text so small :(

[Dani]

Thanks.

Youtube on tv awesomeness.

[fanman]

Browsing on the tv is awesome. Takes a while to scroll though.

[thirtynine.]

main gripes are,
TINY TEXT wtf.
cant set my own homepage.
i thought you would be able to use gesturres e.g hold b and make a < sign to go back
i want a url bar.
i want tabs.
no d-pad scrolling. WTF.
i want to be able to hide the bar on the bottom. it make full screen you tube small :(

[Dyson]

...If I could connect I'd post from my Wii :(

Edit: Also to the guys that are complaining about features - it's only the trial. Things will be ironed out for the full release.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I'm posting using the browser. It is quite strange but also quite
cool.

[BGS]

eep posting from my wii now. Bit awkward to browse with really but better than nothing i guess. Wish there was some way to increase font size rather than this zooming. :(

[Dani]

Agreed about the ironing out things, its suppose to be a trial and the documentation clearly states that there are features left out that will be included in the final release.

[Daft]

Damn I'm writing this with my Wii! This rocks but its hard to read small text! I hope component cables will help this!

EDIT: holy cr*p thats cool!

[HazyUK]

I'll download it in the morning, but I'm tempted to get out of bed now and see what it's like.

[Dyson]

Love n-e on here! Yay wii posting ;P

[The3rdChildren]

Hello from Wii land, N-europe!

[/ nando /]

This is from my Wii, just downloaded it :heh:

..it is kinda cool actually, means i can browse while me da is on the computer..

[fanman]

Damn I'm writing this with my Wii! This rocks but its hard to read small text! I hope component cables will help this!

EDIT: holy cr*p thats cool!

Press plus to zoom in.

You can also scroll by holding b and moving the pointer where you want to go.

[blender]

bear in mind that the most popular sites will probably start making optimised views for wii browser. Wonder if nintendo has a showcase site up ??

when all is said and done, its a beta after all. The megaton will follow. And dont you just wish you had HD now for a proper browsing experience.

[Jhaqen]

Hitting the 2 button appears to bring up all the links on a page. Pretty cool.

Actually, it just makes everything easier to read and navigate.

[JerecDrak]

Does anyone else get a black bar along the top and right hand side of their screen? Kinda annoys me.

[Meik]

Hello, typing this from my Wii.

We're a band of vicious pirates
A-sailin' out to sea.
When you hear our gentle singing...
You'll be sure to turn and flee!
(Oh, this is just ridiculous.)

Come on, men! We've got to recover that map!
That pirate will be done for,
when he falls into our trap!
We're a club of tuneful rovers!
We can sing in every clef!
We can even hit the high notes!
It's just too bad we're tone deaf!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Let's go defeat that evil pirate!
We know he's sure to lose,
'cause we know just where to fire at!
We're thieving balladeers.
A gang of cutthroat mugs.
To fight us off ye don't need guns!
Just jolly good ear-plugs.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

All right, crew, let's get to work!
Our vocation's a thing we love
A thing we'd never shirk!
We'll fight you in the harbor.
We'll battle you on land.
But when you meet singing pirates...
They'll be more than you can stand.
Oh! That was a good one!
No, it wasn't.

No time for song! We've got to move!
The battle will be long,
But our courage we will prove!
We're a pack of scurvy seadogs
Have we pity? Not a dram
We all eat roasted garlic
Then sing from the diaphragm.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Less singing, more sailing.
When we defeat our wicked foe,
His ship he will be bailing!
If ye try ta fight us
You will get a nasty whackin'!
If ya disrespect our singin'
We will feed ya to a kraken!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

I'm getting so sick of you guys and your rhyming.
We're ready to set sail,
though the cannons need a-priming.
We're troublesome corsairs!
And we've come to steal your treasures!
We would shoot you on the downbeat
But we have to rest five measures.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Stop! Stop! Stop!
The brass is what we'll polish
And the deck is what we'll mop.

You say you're nasty pirates...
Scheming, thieving, bad bushwhackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates! You're just slackers!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange.
And...!
...um...
Well...
...err...
Door hinge?
No, no...
Guess the song's over, then.
Guess so.
Hokay, back to work.
Well gee.
I feel a little guilty, now...

Man, that took a while.

[Hellfire]

I'm in your boards posting on my Wii. lollerskates

[Fierce_LiNk]

Hello, typing this from my Wii.

We're a band of vicious pirates
A-sailin' out to sea.
When you hear our gentle singing...
You'll be sure to turn and flee!
(Oh, this is just ridiculous.)

Come on, men! We've got to recover that map!
That pirate will be done for,
when he falls into our trap!
We're a club of tuneful rovers!
We can sing in every clef!
We can even hit the high notes!
It's just too bad we're tone deaf!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Let's go defeat that evil pirate!
We know he's sure to lose,
'cause we know just where to fire at!
We're thieving balladeers.
A gang of cutthroat mugs.
To fight us off ye don't need guns!
Just jolly good ear-plugs.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

All right, crew, let's get to work!
Our vocation's a thing we love
A thing we'd never shirk!
We'll fight you in the harbor.
We'll battle you on land.
But when you meet singing pirates...
They'll be more than you can stand.
Oh! That was a good one!
No, it wasn't.

No time for song! We've got to move!
The battle will be long,
But our courage we will prove!
We're a pack of scurvy seadogs
Have we pity? Not a dram
We all eat roasted garlic
Then sing from the diaphragm.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Less singing, more sailing.
When we defeat our wicked foe,
His ship he will be bailing!
If ye try ta fight us
You will get a nasty whackin'!
If ya disrespect our singin'
We will feed ya to a kraken!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

I'm getting so sick of you guys and your rhyming.
We're ready to set sail,
though the cannons need a-priming.
We're troublesome corsairs!
And we've come to steal your treasures!
We would shoot you on the downbeat
But we have to rest five measures.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Stop! Stop! Stop!
The brass is what we'll polish
And the deck is what we'll mop.

You say you're nasty pirates...
Scheming, thieving, bad bushwhackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates! You're just slackers!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange.
And...!
...um...
Well...
...err...
Door hinge?
No, no...
Guess the song's over, then.
Guess so.
Hokay, back to work.
Well gee.
I feel a little guilty, now...

Man, that took a while.


You must have used predicted/predictive for that. Otherwise, it would have taken a lot longer...

[fanman]

Does anyone else get a black bar along the top and right hand side of their screen? Kinda annoys me.

I get that too.

EDIT
Oh, and has anyone been on that wiicade thing that was reported here a while ago? It's great fun. wiicade.com btw

[pedrocasilva]

the browser is very nice, but what was that block mumbo jumbo when downloading? seems like wii has little user acessable memory, but if so these programs shouldn't go in there.

If people want to scroll faster than just B, press A simulnaneously too.

I like how it supports flash. :D

god... I hate composite cables

[thirtynine.]

Hitting the 2 button appears to bring up all the links on a page. Pretty cool.

and 1 brings up the faves./

[Daft]

My Wii just crashed on Skysports website! Had to turn the whole thing off!
Do ya think Nintendo can see what we r typing? Creepy...just kiding! Does ne1 know whats going 2 b added 2 the final version, cos I think this is pretty complete!?

I would like tabbed browsing!

[LukeLee]

its taking forever to download :cry:

[david.dakota]

Over 700 blocks of memory?!

[pedrocasilva]

Porn is still great on the Wii.Always good to know; I guess...

[thirtynine.]

if you have to many items which open in a new window it crashes.

[Dyson]

You're bloody mental. -Wii

By the way, anyone wanting some flash games should check orisinal.com

-Wii

[Shino]

Porn is still great on the Wii.

Did you try Pornotube.com ?

[Jhaqen]

Did you try Pornotube.com ?



Haha! I did, purely in the interest of research, and when you go to view a video, it tells you that your software is out of date, but you can ignore that, and voila. WiiPorn goodness.

[Nintendork]

Browsed around for a while- it's a full browser.

What does it need? Real Player support. I won't be paying for it until it does.
YouTube is suprisingly well support- flash is pretty good also.

BBC Radio Player support would be the killer app for Opera browser- it means you don't have to listen again to the radio at your computer anymore.

Set up my favourites to Google, YouTube, Google news and NeoGAF- that's about all I'll use it for.

[fanman]

Over 700 blocks of memory?!

It took around 300 on mine I think... I have 1800 and something left.

[conzer16]

Oh i love the Mario animation running along the bottom of the download screen!!!

Damn! the text is so small! I hope that in the final version the text is bigger snd easier type!

[pedrocasilva]

Oh i love the Mario animation running along the bottom of the download screen!!!I was pressing the buttons randomly for like a minute, trying to make him jump

[Platty]

Well I like it and im using now to post this :)

[Fierce_LiNk]

I was pressing the buttons randomly for like a minute, trying to make him jump

Haha, so was I.

At one point, I was even flicking the wiimote to try and get him to jump.

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Greatness. Its allright. Its fast, reliable, and easy to use.

More zooming and scrolling options would be nice.

[mario_jr]

WTF!!! Its not up here in the US!!! BULLSH*T!!!:angry: :angry:

[Dyson]

WTF!!! Its not up here in the US!!! BULLSH*T!!!:angry: :angry:

:santa:

It's weird going from using the Wii to using a keyboard again. Not sure why - probably due to the lack of arm movement!

Loved youtube on the TV, shame YTMND didn't work. No support for plain audio files it'd seem! YTMND on the Wii = Perfect.

[conzer16]

WTF!!! Its not up here in the US!!! BULLSH*T!!!:angry: :angry:


Yeah, midnight in Europe is before midnight in US.......

[mario_jr]

[QUOTE=mario_jr;312155]WTF!!! Its not up here in the US!!! BULLSH*T!!!:angry: :angry:[/QUOTE


Yeah, midnight in Europe is before midnight in US.......

oh yeah forgot about that.....:hmm: :woops: :weep:

[Oli1983uk]

Seems pretty cool so far, using it now, i am gonna checkout some other sites now.

[4q2]

Loved youtube on the TV

Same here...first site I hit with it.
I dont like that fat navigation bar, anybody seen any option to hide it ?

[Daroh]

Quite a few things niggled me about it...

It cant play the latest flash files for whatever reason (flash V6+?)
The zoom could do with reworking, setting it to gradual zoom would have been great, the option to save images and/or music from the internet directly to SD card would have been good too.
A button to insert a new web address rather than having to go back to the main menu every time would be good, the option to switch the scroll method would be good, such as being able to use the D pad.
The ability to edit the web address of favourites.
The ability to view the address of the current website.
Why does the 2 button bring up favourites when you need to go back to the main page to insert a new address? especially when there's a favourites button there too.

Some of these issues will probably be dealt with, but with the amount of time they've had developing it, id say its pretty much finished.


What did impress me is the fact it plays youtube near flawlessly, didn't think the Wii would have enough memory to handle it, along with some of the larger flash files.

[Nintenchris]

Sweet!
Im using it right now ... and for a trial version it ain't half bad!

[Tellyn]

I'm using it now, brilliance.

[NintendoRevo]

My God its fast. I am watching the trailers for the movie "300" atm on youtube. Damn its fast. Can't wait for the full version. I'll have my LCD TV then too hehe

[Mike]

I'm using it now! Pretty cool, but I agree with most of the niggles posted here. Hopefully they'll be sorted in the full version.

[EchoDesiato]

Aw shits, can't connect to the shop channel. Keep getting error 051340.

[Charlie]

I can't get it until I get home from school. What's the speed like? Better than Opera DS? :heh:

[ndreamer]

i made a flash/php/javascript based mp3 player for the wii you can upload it to your server (remote or local) then put all your mp3 files in the media folder then just point your browser to index.php.

ill be adding playlist support and a few other things this week you can download the first version here.
http://filemega.com/files/wiicaster_mp3.zip

[The Peeps]

The only problem I have is with the zooming. I can't read the text when zoomed out but I have to scroll sideways whenever I'm zoomed in because it goes too far.

I really like the predictive text though, it makes typing a lot faster.

An address bar would be good too.

Weebl and Bob works woo!!

[EchoDesiato]

Opera get! Posting with my Wii!

[Tellyn]

I can't get it until I get home from school. What's the speed like? Better than Opera DS? :heh:

About 3 seconds slower than my broadband, uber quick.

[Fresh]

Seems to all work fine, however the only problem i have is you can't highlight text.

[Jasper]

Lovelt. Simple and fast. I never thought they could pull it of in such a gracious and through-thought way, but they did it. It works and it's fast. Nothing near as slow as I expected and far away from what the DS Browser is capable of. Now if Nintendo could get the Shop Channel running this fast, Wii's off for aa spectaaculair internetianal (see how I made up a word here?) start. Looks and feels great, and N-europe is again one of my favourites.

The things certainly made a good impression. And it's incredibly small in size (about 200 blocks, that's no more than 64 Mb). Ow wait, for a browser, that's pretty big. anyway, the only downside was the loading and downloading in the shop channel. It took for ages and the 'classic' sounds that accompany the download are annoying if you hear them to much. Ah well, it's time for some Opera....

[Chuck]

using it to post! its pretty blurred unzoomed

[Stocka]

wii porn ftw

[AshMat]

It's awesome man. I'm watching Pure Pwnage (google video) on my tv. and it's incredibly fast.

After this, i don't know what to do, i've done everything i wanted tot do (PP on TV).

[Nintenchris]

Hmmm only niggle i have is that it dont fill my screen... oh and i agree it is fast ... alot faster than i thought it would be!

[Acidyl]

Pretty sweet, posting from my Wii now.

[DiemetriX]

wii porn ftw

Hells yeah. Flash powered porn movies ftw.

[Letty]

im lovin' it!

[AshMat]

It's crashed a couple of times int he middle of a pure pwnage episode. Maybe i need to move the cursor around every now and then, because i got through a whole episode the first time, and i was constantly moving it.

[BlueStar]

Posting from my Wii :) Pressing 2 makes it much easier to read posts for me!

[BGS]

The only problem I have is with the zooming. I can't read the text when zoomed out but I have to scroll sideways whenever I'm zoomed in because it goes too far.
yeah that annoyed me too. Try pressing the two button if you're going to read an entire thread? makes the text super big and fit on a single page but it's too slow to scroll through for scanning a page quick

Hells yeah. Flash powered porn movies ftw.
yeah, this really is the best use i've found for this thing so far!

oh, its really tricky making long posts i've just found out. You can't highlight and delete text and you can only see two lines you're typing at a time. Eek. Also for single letter words like 'i' and 'a' why does predictive first type a > instead?

overall it is much faster and capable than i ever expected.

[Bluejay]

Hello, typing this from my Wii.

LOLOLOL PIRATES

Man, that took a while.

Liar. Ctrl C + Ctrl V on your PC.

[Samdecahedron]

This really is much faster than i ever imagined, i was hoping i could use web messenger, but sadly no luck.us

[Teppo Holmqvist]

BTW guys...

http://wiinintendo.net/2006/11/30/web-design-guide-for-opera-browser-on-wii/

Above link has web design guide for doing your own, Wii optimize webpages. It tells what resolution Nintendo itself uses on shop channel, what fonts are used, etc. Could be useful if someone is doing portal.

[DCK]

First post from my Wii :)

[Zombie_Fan]

My first post from my Wii! Thank you Nintendo for the early Christmas preasent. :)

[flameboy]

ok so 1st post off my wii! generally not too bad. (hmmm strange when trying 2 put the full stop after bad it kept typing bad.us, thought i wanted website)

so yeah think its pretty good, faster than I expected! but text is too small unzoomed!

anyway gonna go see what works- msn web messenger?!

[Stefkov]

I like it, love the predicted text. Hopefully they'll sort out the zoom.
It's a lot faster loading than my pc :D (seeing if smilies work aswell)

Love how it loads my gamercard and avatar aswell

[Stocka]

You guys tried www.wiicade.com?
Some of the stuff is pretty fun,but even there the zoom is irritating.
Shame web messenger doesn`t work

[Nicktendo]

try iloveim.com
that has msn messenger working on the wii browser.

[conzer16]

Wii browser just crashed my Wii.

It was working fine last night.

Edit: from my Wii, seems to work now. ::shrug:

[martinist]

yeay! my very first post using the wii browser, the text is really kind of small. Maybe they'll sort that out in the full version.

[Charlie]

wii porn ftw

I was just thinking that...

[posted from my Wii]

[Sarka]

Ooh! I like the browser, nice and fast. Apart from typing that is... though I'm getting more used to it as I type this post, yay!

I'm gonna play Wiiarcade now!

[conzer16]

Okay. Now could someone try this for me please :)

Point you Wii Browser to www.pandora.com

Point it to www.ucd.ie

Does the Browser try to load both pages twice and then redirects to the Wii homepage!???

[Charlie]

I hope they fix the zoom so you can zoom into what you want instead of only 1 level of zoom.

[Caris]

Is it fast?

[Stocka]

I`ve started to have some problems with it, like pages not loading and stuff

[c0Zm1c]

Is it fast?
Compared to the DS version it's greased lightning! :laughing:

[Gizmo]

Anybody found a way to get on an IRC server with the Wii?

[Pit-Jr]

browsing and typing with the Wiimote is cool but a little too slow and blurry at the moment. I havent read this thread yet but this is a trial version right, meaning well be paying for it later?

[flameboy]

browsing and typing with the Wiimote is cool but a little too slow and blurry at the moment. I havent read this thread yet but this is a trial version right, meaning well be paying for it later?

don't think so download it before 30th June will still be free once its out.

[Adrian DX]

I agree with most of the cons posted here, but my biggest wish for the full version is USB keyboard support. Nintendo could team up with Logitech and make a tiny wireless Wii keyboard.

Other than that i'm impressed with this trial version of the browser.
[posted on a Wii]

[AshMat]

A bluetooth Wii keyboard would be nice.
Also, i'd like one mroe BETA before it's finished. Just fill my screen, and don't crash my Wii int he middle of Pure Pwnage.

Wiicade.com is pretty good. Try out Mouse 1.0

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

I think I remember something about motion enabled character input.

[AshMat]

Can't watch movies on IGN.

But the websites slow as fuck on my PC and Wii anyway.

[Dyson]

You probably won't see that until the full version.

aerisdies.com worked fine for me, popups are a pain though. Have to spam the back button a few times - tabbed browsing please!

[Zell]

1st post from my wii, seems pretty decent, youtube works fine, could do with more levels of zoom though. Happy browsing!

[flameboy]

think usb keyboard support would be great, but not sure if Nintendo would implement it. At the end of the day the Wii is meant as a family console..with the Wii in the lounge or whatever so having a keyboard lying around isn't gonna happen is it? They'd much rather have you browsering the net using the remote, to show how you can literally do everything with it.

I'm hoping somebody makes a Wii styled (?) flash based MMO (free of course) that everyone will get into.

gonna try this out on it:

http://www.battleon.com/default.asp

[Fuzpoy]

arg! the browser crashed my wii, i was watching a video on google and it locked up and the hand wouldn't move, i had to pull the power cable in the end.

[Fruitgun]

Hooray for Wii!
I must admit, writing takes forever, and the text is pretty small, but this is still awesome! Hello from Wii World!

[AshMat]

oh no, don't. Adventure Quest sucks assssss.

EDIT: Also, if your Wii crashes. hold down the power button. You don't need to unplug it. The Wii hates google vids for some raisin.

[Fuzpoy]

oh no, don't. Adventure Quest sucks assssss.

EDIT: Also, if your Wii crashes. hold down the power button. You don't need to unplug it. The Wii hates google vids for some raisin.

i did try the power button but it did nothing so i had to unplug it.

[Stefkov]

Has anyone tried changing the view modes?
I changed it on this forum and it looked wierd. And I changed it back.

[flameboy]

oh no, don't. Adventure Quest sucks assssss.

EDIT: Also, if your Wii crashes. hold down the power button. You don't need to unplug it. The Wii hates google vids for some raisin.

well it doesn't work anyway, when trying to set up an account it wouldn't go pst password screen, clicking next didn't do anything!

if you say it sucked wont bother! only tried it cos saw a link on some other site I was on.

[*Dalco*]

first impressions are its useful for just checking latest news and stuff without having 2 go n pc . loving fact i cn stream south park via dailymotion on tv :)

[BGS]

has anyone else found that youtube has suddenly stopped working on the wii browser? have they (youtube) just upgraded to flash 8 or something? :(

[flameboy]

first impressions are its useful for just checking latest news and stuff without having 2 go n pc . loving fact i cn stream south park via dailymotion on tv :)

yep I just discovered such beauties as that work! soo soo good, now the opera browser has become a killer app for definite!!!!!!

[Nintenchris]

has anyone else found that youtube has suddenly stopped working on the wii browser? have they (youtube) just upgraded to flash 8 or something? :(

Yep i could cry.. not even a full day of Wii on youtube and we cant watch videos there now :sad:

working now....... strange

[flameboy]

Yep i could cry.. not even a full day of Wii on youtube and we cant watch videos there now :sad:

sure final version of opera will function with flash 8!

[Fierce_LiNk]

Shame web messenger doesn`t work

Google something called "E Messenger."

Nando off these forums tried it with me, and it worked for him. I then tried it myself, and it worked ok, too. :)

[EchoDesiato]

Flash games are ten times more fun on the Wii.

[Cube]

The browser does have tabs, right? (I'm testing it out later)

[thirtynine.]

no...
it makes me cry.

[flameboy]

yeah tabbed browsing isn't their, looks like firefox will have to keep me satisfied in that respect for now.

I know we've written all the improvements we'd like to see but I've been thinking. It may not incorporate alot of these things, just cos I think it does achieve probably what Nintendo intended it's a simple easy to use browsing experience for use in the lounge/living room.

Whilst it is hard to do a lot of things regular web users are used to. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we don't see many refinements to the actual way it works...just what it supports etc...

Loving being able to use daily motion etc... watching sitcoms is a dream! cos of TV's resolution-full screen they look ok.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

has anyone else found that youtube has suddenly stopped working on the wii browser? have they (youtube) just upgraded to flash 8 or something? :(

Yup. Youtube upgraded their system today.

[pedrocasilva]

Yup. Youtube upgraded their system today.Such a coincidence too :blank:

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Such a coincidence too :blank:

Yeah, tough luck. Ironically my source told that Nintendo had put Youtube pretty high on priority and really pushed deve team to improve Flash support that it would work in first beta version. :)

[Charlie]

So is YouTube working or not?

[Wolf]

So is YouTube working or not?

It's working alright. I'm pretty amazed by how well it works.

[ShadowV7]

This sucks,I was very happy that youtube worked and was watching some naruto and now I find it doesn't.
Sucks,now to check out google video.

[CooInTheZoo]

wow. thats incredible. its fast, seems pretty reliable. for a beta version its all i could want, thank you nintendo!!!

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Someone suggested using the scrolling method found in the weather channel. That would be perfect.

Zooming like in the photo channel might also be cool.com

[Cube]

no...
it makes me cry.

No? Can you at least open multiple instances then?

[flameboy]

No? Can you at least open multiple instances then?

nope

zzzzzzzz 10 letter limit

[ShadowV7]

What the...
Now youtube is working for me again,this is messed up :heh:

[Tellyn]

Should we compile a little list of well-known and popular websites that actually work on Wii? For some reason, Wii doesn't like Gamespot and keeps redirecting to the home page. Possible revenge on Nintendo's behalf for giving Wii games bad reviews?

[Jonwah]

So the browser, when launched properly, will have Flash Player 8. That right?
Not 9 or 7?
I need to get my facts!

[Dani]

Zooming.

If you press the + you get a smaller zoom, press it hard for a closer zoom.

[Tellyn]

I tried speaking to Moria on e-messenger on the Wii, it logged into MSN fine but it didn't seem to send anything to him, so could someone test that?

[Stefkov]

I'm just laughing when I read posts now. you can see who have done it from theirs Wii. What with having .com at the end of some posts because of the predicted spelling on '.'

My bro said to try the Pan's Labrynth website as that is heavy with flash etc.
If anyone wants to try out that see if that works?

[Tellyn]

I'm just laughing when I read posts now. you can see who have done it from theirs Wii. What with having .com at the end of some posts because of the predicted spelling on '.'

My bro said to try the Pan's Labrynth website as that is heavy with flash etc.
If anyone wants to try out that see if that works?

What predictive spelling.com

[Stefkov]

What predictive spelling.com
haha. predictive spelling is those words that pop up, i think. When you start typing on the Wii, words will popup above the tryping board. So it saves you typing the whole word if its there. Its also on the Wii message board I was wondering what the arrow was above the backspace, press it ans it turns red. This is also predicted spelling.

[Tellyn]

haha. predictive spelling is those words that pop up, i think. When you start typing on the Wii, words will popup above the tryping board. So it saves you typing the whole word if its there. Its also on the Wii message board I was wondering what the arrow was above the backspace, press it ans it turns red. This is also predicted spelling.

My previous sentence was for the purposes of sarcasm. :p

[Cube]

Turned predictive typing off. YouTube works fine.

[Shorty]

My Wii is right next to my PC, it seems my only reason to use the opera browser would be if I wanted to browse sites on a browser I don't like anyway, slowly and at a low resolution http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2884/argwq0.gif

Yeah... I don't think I'll be paying for it next year :heh:

[Charlie]

I tried speaking to Moria on e-messenger on the Wii, it logged into MSN fine but it didn't seem to send anything to him, so could someone test that?

I got a few messages from you. I replied saying "hey".

[Tellyn]

I got a few messages from you. I replied saying "hey".

Ah thanks for confirming that, I couldn't even see that my messages had sent on that. :)

[Mokong X-C]

what happened with viewing Youtube on the Wii?

When i downloaded the Interbet Channel this morning I was able to watch videos on Youtube, when I got home from work it don't work anymore.

Says "Java may be turned off, or don't have the latest flash player" or something like that.

What happened between this morning and this afternoon?

[pedrocasilva]

The Opera browser on Wii does support playback of movies on Youtube. Youtube seems to have broken something tonight, however, blocking Wii users. We will investigate and contact them about it.

–
Wilhelm
Opera QA (Wii)

Hi, I work at YouTube as a product manager. I also bought a Wii two weeks ago!

Today I ran the browser and it worked fine for YT videos for about 10 minutes. Then the links stopped clicking through or sporadically worked. After that the pages came up with the error about javascript or an old version of flash. I have asked the team here about the error since I have seen it here or there on various browsers. Hopefully someone knows what causes it and it will be a quick browser or server fix. It seems to be a detection problem when we do the check on whether the flash player is available. Why this would change after some minutes of running is beyond me.

More news as I have it!Source: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=167137

Fingers crossed.

[flameboy]

hmmmmm seems abit odd that things would work one minute, then not the next!

Seems to affect a few other sites to, daily motion seems to go crazy on me from time to time, not loading videos etc...

god typed this on wii has taken forever!

[RedShell]

I'm pretty impressed with the browser so far, don't reckon it'll replace my PC anytime soon but it's cool to have nonetheless.

Main gripe is that it isn’t full screen, (what's up with that!?) and that 20% of the screen is taken up with a big toolbar, they should really make that auto-hide once you move the Wii Remote off it.

[Colin]

I want Dailymotion to work, and so far it's just failed to load any videos.

I'll only ever use the browser when I can't be bothered to get out of bed in the morning. So I can do my internets stuff (checking message boards etc) wrapped up warm in bed without even having to get out to turn the console or the tv on.

Apart from that, it's functional, and loading is a lot better than I expected.

Having the browser randomly chuck my back to the home page is annoying, but that seems to be with the browser having problems with certain sites.

[flameboy]

I want Dailymotion to work, and so far it's just failed to load any videos.

I'll only ever use the browser when I can't be bothered to get out of bed in the morning. So I can do my internets stuff (checking message boards etc) wrapped up warm in bed without even having to get out to turn the console or the tv on.

Apart from that, it's functional, and loading is a lot better than I expected.

Having the browser randomly chuck my back to the home page is annoying, but that seems to be with the browser having problems with certain sites.

yeah daily motion is strange one. i've had it working fine all day but now it won't!

[Mokong X-C]

yay Youtube videos are working again

Watching my own Video logs on the TV is so cool and weird at the same time.

HAHA, finally i'm on TV, hahaha

it's quite cool, though it's not gonna take too much time away from my laptop.

I think it'll be mostly used for times when i wanna check something online (this site or youtube) without having to turn on the laptop.

Or if there's nothing on TV and again too lazy to turn on laptop just grab Wii mote go to internet channel then watch Youtube videos on TV, haha

[Jackster]

So far I'm pretty impressed, although I'd like to see at least some of the following:
* Better scrolling. I.e. using the d-pad and/or pressing A and B to drag the page around.
* Clipboard. Copy and Paste.
* Tabs.
* Maybe they could use the nunchuk for something, I.e. instead of having to go to the start page and having to click WWW to type an address, just press Z or C.

Does the 2 button remove CSS?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

BTW....

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/wii/ has reviews for all released and announced virtual console games. The greatest part is that if you open it with Wii's Opera, you will be redirected* into Wii optimized version. You can even read the text without zooming. :)

* Wii users can be easily recognized by their http_user_agent which clearly states what platform and browser they are using.

[Hamish]

can someone try and watch a flash movie on www.newgrounds.com

[Stefkov]

I went on albinoblacksheep and that worked fine. One game didnt work on Wiicade.com but its a crappy game anyway.

Spank the Monkey on Wii FTW.

I watched the episode Make love, not warcraft on my wii earlier. Apart from it eing so funny, it worked a treat, now I wish I had wireless internet so my pc doesnt have to be for me to access it.

[xernobyl]

If on Youtube you ignore the Flash version checking it works.

[Stefkov]

Sorry to post again so soon after my other post, but I had to try something and post.

Line Rider doesnt work. On each one I tried There is just a white screen with a very small and wierdly places black line. That all, I waited a few moments nothing happened.
They cant have asked Opera to allow poeple to not be able to use it could they?
If we could get on then this is another reason why making a ame out of it is the worst idea I've ever heard.

[flameboy]

http://team-dsx.net/ds/basic.php.

Tabbed Wii web browsing
December 23rd, 2006

Well this made things a lot easier! Histoplasmosis sent us a link which shows you how to do tabbed browsing on your Opera Wii browser. It is extremely simple actually! All you do is open up your Wii browser, and visit the address http://team-dsx.net/ds/basic.php. Once you go there, a little tab will pop up in your browser. You click the image to the left, which allows you to open new tabs. Awesome find, I just added this to my favorites!

[Nintenchris]

That site is dead Flameboy :(

[thirtynine.]

i can host it if its needed.

[flameboy]

That site is dead Flameboy :(

how odd it was only posted on gonintendo like 20 mins ago....

[thirtynine.]

how odd it was only posted on gonintendo like 20 mins ago....
i thought you made it D:

[flameboy]

i thought you made it D:

no lol! I aren't that great!

[Emasher]

i think i wont use the trial that offten.

though the full version it depends if it suports java or not

[BGS]

i think this current trial has some kind of multi windows support, it just isn't visible. I'm often finding myself randomly on a page i visited a while ago without messing with the back/forward arrows or anything.

[thirtynine.]

same^^

the tabbed site is back up now.

[flameboy]

same^^

the tabbed site is back up now.

yeah it is new link:

http://www.team-dsx.net/wii

seems ok, abit tempermental sometimes and adding too many tabs means having 2 scroll bars.

Anyway it's xmas day! best get in the festivites only came on line to mess about with new webcam!!!!

[badboyace84]

i am writing this on my wii. the browser seems good but i wish i could add favourites. just figured out that you can its much better now

[Emasher]

my sister crashed my wii using it today. this was the first time its happened to my wii so i couldn't figure out what had happened until i (unplugged it and plugged it back in) looked at the play history.

[solitanze]

my sister crashed my wii using it today. this was the first time its happened to my wii so i couldn't figure out what had happened until i (unplugged it and plugged it back in) looked at the play history.


My Wii has crashed twice, both times while playing Red Steel. Never EVER has this happened on any other Nintendo system i've owned to date. Instead i've had about 10 read disc errors on GC but not jamming.

[thirtynine.]

my wii has crashed like 5 times while using the opera channels to watch films ect on dailymotion.com

[solitanze]

Why is Wii hardware so crash prone?

Its not as if it's incredibly powerful hardware that its overworking itself. Or is it perhaps due to only being 1mhz more powerful than GC, it can't cope with the pressures of hardcore usage?

[blender]

Why is Wii hardware so crash prone?

Its not as if it's incredibly powerful hardware that its overworking itself. Or is it perhaps due to only being 1mhz more powerful than GC, it can't cope with the pressures of hardcore usage?

they cant be bothered with stable software... as they know they can update it either on line or hidden in new games. Couldnt do that with gc.

[flameboy]

It does seem very prone to crash at the mo, mine has crashed 3 or 4 times whilst on the browser and then the first couple of days after launch, it just turned off on its own twice whilst playing zelda!

[Cube]

Why is Wii hardware so crash prone?

My GameCube probably crashed 10 or so times by the time it was as old as my Wii is now. And crashed quite regually until (for some odd reason) it was in a boot of a car that got rear-ended. Perhaps some units are more crash-prone than others. (for all consoles)

[mario_jr]

Wii Opera now supporting Youtube videos:smile: : peace: , but no longer Google video:blank: :heh: .

[Dyson]

I really don't have a use for it anymore. Oh well.

[badboyace84]

i found it really usefull when my dell computer stoped working some led's were blinking, had to go on the dell website and find out what was wrong

[fanman]

Wii Opera now supporting Youtube videos:smile: : peace: , but no longer Google video:blank: :heh: .

It supported them when it first went up, but then it stopped, for some reason...

[Cube]

It supported them when it first went up, but then it stopped, for some reason...

YouTube has always been working for me...

[ShadowV7]

Well this is a bit of a bump.Brief Estimate of Final Version Release Date!



PN: So here's the big question; when will we be getting the full version of the browser to download on Wii?

Opera: Opera and Nintendo are planning the release for the final version of the browser for late March/early April.

PN: The biggest problem (Which is still very small) to do with the Opera browser is that typing can be very slow (especially for novices). There was a rumour that keyboard drivers were a possibility. Does that stand?

Opera: You will have to check with Nintendo on their plans to offer a keyboard. Opera would not be involved in this.


PN: Our last question is will there be any updates to the browser after this version, or is this it?

Opera: The browser for Wii will be regularly updated.

Source (http://www.cubed3.com/news/6945/1/Opera_Talks_Final_Wii_Browser)

I was expecting this in June sometime so this is good news for me!
And also being regularly updated is a bonus.

[Tellyn]

Excellent news!

June is the time when we have to pay for the full version, they said it would be out before that, around March time.

[ShadowV7]

Excellent news!

June is the time when we have to pay for the full version, they said it would be out before that, around March time.

Ah so they did,can't believe I forgot that.
I'm looking forward to see what's changed.

[Tellyn]

I would like:

- Better speeds for loading (although the current speed is actually mega fast)
- An updated Flash player
- More support for plugin content
- Keyboard released by Nintendo specifically for typing messages and surfing the web (I'm just thinking, this could actually be an extension to the Wiimote and use the same plug as the Nunchuk)
- Tabbed browsing
- History
- Address bar
- Better organisation for favourites

[flameboy]

even if they just released a keypad like a mobile one as an add on for the wiimote I'd be relatively happy.

[motion]

We should be able to plug in our own USB keyboard at the back, although they need to make as much money as possible so will most likely limit keyboard usage to their own branded one...

[Jasper]

We should be able to plug in our own USB keyboard at the back, although they need to make as much money as possible so will most likely limit keyboard usage to their own branded one...

Do you need drivers for Keyboard? Anyway, the Wii is linked up using a program from japanese developers that mostly ignores all USB input devices. You can get through that fairly easely, but it's not the handiest system ever. Check your Wii manual for info on the company (web address) with something called PRMail.

[DCK]

Do you need drivers for Keyboard?I believe that every single keyboard uses a certain standard that can be interpreted by a generic driver. It means you can use all regular buttons and not them fancy media buttons.

[flameboy]

I believe that every single keyboard uses a certain standard that can be interpreted by a generic driver. It means you can use all regular buttons and not them fancy media buttons.

yeah that is the case, hence why if you get a new one you can just plug it straight in.

[AshMat]

I like tellyn's idea of a keyboard that plugs into the Wiimote like the classic controller.

[Stefkov]

I went on it last night at 1 ish to watch some Chappeles show, because I couldnt sleep, then I thought would it be hard and fun to use iketch on it.
I treid it but all it showed was a box saying plug in content.

[Cube]

I treid it but all it showed was a box saying plug in content.

Shockwave support would be a nice addition.

[Tellyn]

And a better Flash player.

[DiemetriX]

http://img.qj.net//uploads/articles_module2/87015/vol04_image01_qjpreviewth.jpg
New images. All though it has been delayed to april.

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Looks great. Im looking very much forward to it.

Thats expecting they have fixed the major problems like scroll and zooming.

[ShadowV7]

It's not exactly been delayed since they said it was gonna be released march/april anyway.

[DiemetriX]

New videos on http://wii.com/jp/articles/internet-channel/story.html
just press the Japanese hyper links.


Confirmed new features
- Final Channel screen
- New menu bar, with hide feature.
- Better zoom
- Better scroll function

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Not good enough. The scrolling should be like on the weather channel when you move the planet. And the zooming should be mouch faster.

Booo hooo.

[Apple_NdiB]

Does anyone else have problems scrolling when zoomed in, especially on this forum? It always zooms out by itself for me, and occasionally pops up to the top of the page.com

[Cube]

Does anyone else have problems scrolling when zoomed in, especially on this forum? It always zooms out by itself for me, and occasionally pops up to the top of the page.com

They need to fix the full stop problem that the predictive text causes.

[Apple_NdiB]

Lol, I didn't notice that, hair queer!

[DiemetriX]

The predictive text sux IMO. I wish I could turn it off. I like that they have a suggestion bar, but the forced suggestion is really bad.

[Cube]

The predictive text sux IMO. I wish I could turn it off. I like that they have a suggestion bar, but the forced suggestion is really bad.

Press the button to the right of the bar..

[ShadowV7]

Yea,you can turn predictive text off...

[shade]

New videos on http://wii.com/jp/articles/internet-channel/story.html
just press the Japanese hyper links.


Confirmed new features
- Final Channel screen
- New menu bar, with hide feature.
- Better zoom
- Better scroll function

there will more than that.

[flameboy]

all i want is it supports the latest version of flash...so that i can watch streaming sites that have started using it.

[mariosmentor]

It better have tabs and flash or by jove there will be hell to pay. Hell I says!

[Emasher]

the trial version already has flash

i'm hoping they add java

[Cube]

i'm hoping they add java

It won't for security reasons.

[Atomic Boo]

so what internet games can you play on wii?
i think the channel is alright, speedier than i thought it would be, but you definetly need a keyboard and more options
im glad they called it the trial version

[flameboy]

so what internet games can you play on wii?
i think the channel is alright, speedier than i thought it would be, but you definetly need a keyboard and more options
im glad they called it the trial version

www.wiicade.com, www.wiinintendo.net aswell is pretty good source of wii compatible flash games.

also try out:

http://splax.net/game/fooyoo.html
for a pretty quirky japanese game but quite fun...

[Atomic Boo]

^cheers dude

[shade]

It won't for security reasons.
Java is used for many sites on internet. It will be there

I'm hoping for

Updated flash player
Tabbed browsing
keyboard button assignment to classic controller or 2nd wii mote (to play flash games)
Shockwave support


Hopefully in a few weeks we shall get a full list of features.

[Jasper]

Java is used for many sites on internet. It will be there

I'm hoping for

Updated flash player
Tabbed browsing
keyboard button assignment to classic controller or 2nd wii mote (to play flash games)
Shockwave support


Hopefully in a few weeks we shall get a full list of features.

Here's the catch: Java is an Operating Enviroment. Wich means it can run commands - Java can do a great deal of harm to computers. Java would interfere with the Wii Operating System, making it vulnerable, and Nintendo can't get virusscans on the system, now can they? Wouldn't hope for java. And Shockwave, well, it's an ancient technology I rarely see these days. I'm agreeing on the tabbed browsing and the Flash upgrade - but the opera for devices platform can't handle version 9 if flash yet, wich is a shame. And the third of your requests barely makes any sense... As if Nintendo would make the Internet Channel especialy for videogames...

[RedShell]

- New menu bar, with hide feature.Result! http://www.n-europe.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

That was my main complaint with the trial version, that and the fact it wasn’t full screen. But by the looks of those new pics and vids that has been sorted out too. :awesome:

[shade]

It won't for security reasons.

Here's the catch: Java is an Operating Enviroment. Wich means it can run commands - Java can do a great deal of harm to computers. Java would interfere with the Wii Operating System, making it vulnerable, and Nintendo can't get virusscans on the system, now can they? Wouldn't hope for java. And Shockwave, well, it's an ancient technology I rarely see these days. I'm agreeing on the tabbed browsing and the Flash upgrade - but the opera for devices platform can't handle version 9 if flash yet, wich is a shame. And the third of your requests barely makes any sense... As if Nintendo would make the Internet Channel especialy for videogames...

You got a point about the security of java but no support would go against nintendo's promise to be the ultimate Web surfing experience on the Wii console and Nintendo can't really do that without Java.
As for shockwave, yes the use of it has gone down but it's still being used, if it can be implemented without any problems then Nintendo/opera should put it in there, power will not be a problem as the dreamcast web browser supported it.
As for the video gaming issue, Wii at heart is a video games console so why not add a function where you can assign buttons to keys? It would be a fantastic feature imagine playing alien hominide using a controller on newgrounds or SFO. That would be feature would be praised and loved.
Yes portable devices don't support flash 9, but wii is not a portable device and we are not getting opera's portable browser are we?

[Emasher]

i'd like to see a keyboard attachment for the wii-mote or the ability to plug in a usb one

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

It would be a fantastic feature imagine playing alien hominide using a controller on newgrounds or SFO.

You can use the Wiimote buttons to play games on Wiicade.com if thats what you ment.

[welsh_gamer]

Official Press Statement from Nintendo from GoNintendo

Since late December, Wii owners have been able to download a trial version of the Opera Internet browser. After receiving substantial and helpful feedback from consumers, friends and family members, Nintendo developers have made a number of improvements to the final version of the browser, including:

* improved zooming and scrolling
* an improved zoomed font
* shortened startup times
* quicker access to “favorites”
* an ability to hide the toolbar
* buttons that will instantly type common preset letters, such as “www” or “.com”

More details about these and other functions will be announced in the near future. To ensure that the browser incorporates all of these enhancements, the final version will be available for download in April, a few weeks later than previously announced. The browser will remain free for Wii owners to download through the end of June. After June, users who haven’t already downloaded the Opera browser can go to the Wii Shop Channel to download it for 500 Wii Points.

[shade]

You can use the Wiimote buttons to play games on Wiicade.com if thats what you ment.
Yeah but the flash games need to modified in order to use that API. Not exactly user friendly.

[blender]

Here's the catch: Java is an Operating Enviroment. Wich means it can run commands - Java can do a great deal of harm to computers. Java would interfere with the Wii Operating System, making it vulnerable, and Nintendo can't get virusscans on the system, now can they? Wouldn't hope for java. And Shockwave, well, it's an ancient technology I rarely see these days. I'm agreeing on the tabbed browsing and the Flash upgrade - but the opera for devices platform can't handle version 9 if flash yet, wich is a shame. And the third of your requests barely makes any sense... As if Nintendo would make the Internet Channel especialy for videogames...

I dont think you understand java.. It is a virtual machine and so it is impossible to 'interfere with the wii operating system. In effect a java applet should be no different to a flash application.

[Librarian]

well i send quite a few mails here from my wii.. and would very much like for the browser to "guess" which words im typing like on my cellphone.. that is in danish.. can't see it happening though

[Jasper]

You got a point about the security of java but no support would go against nintendo's promise to be the ultimate Web surfing experience on the Wii console and Nintendo can't really do that without Java.
As for shockwave, yes the use of it has gone down but it's still being used, if it can be implemented without any problems then Nintendo/opera should put it in there, power will not be a problem as the dreamcast web browser supported it.
As for the video gaming issue, Wii at heart is a video games console so why not add a function where you can assign buttons to keys? It would be a fantastic feature imagine playing alien hominide using a controller on newgrounds or SFO. That would be feature would be praised and loved.
Yes portable devices don't support flash 9, but wii is not a portable device and we are not getting opera's portable browser are we?

The two things I've marked tell the tale here. Nintendo doesn't want to create it's own competition, now do they? And second, the Wii is a portable device in the sense that it isn't a real computer - wich means it's a portable device. And that's why Flash 7 is included - since the technology is pretty old and isn't supporting Flash 9. And FLash 9 is a huge download (compared to the Wii's Hard-drive).

And no, perhaps I don't understand Java that much. I think i'm confusing it with Microsoft's Virtual Machina - what's it called again? Back in the days it was used for banking websites and such...

[shade]

The two things I've marked tell the tale here. Nintendo doesn't want to create it's own competition, now do they? And second, the Wii is a portable device in the sense that it isn't a real computer - wich means it's a portable device. And that's why Flash 7 is included - since the technology is pretty old and isn't supporting Flash 9. And FLash 9 is a huge download (compared to the Wii's Hard-drive).


Ok Flash 9 plug in for windows is 1.3MB - http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

Also Flash 9 is not a resource hog specs are
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/
Intel® Pentium® II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)
128MB of RAM
Now we officially don't know the specs of the wii but the cpu is at least faster then 450MHz and the ram should be 128MB.

As for Nintendo don't want to create there own competition. users will own a PC any way so they can play flash games with a keyboard so that excuse is really not a good one.

[MrRon]

I can watch Youtube on my Wii. Broadcast-television is now dead to me.

[Jasper]

Ok Flash 9 plug in for windows is 1.3MB - http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

Also Flash 9 is not a resource hog specs are
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/
Intel® Pentium® II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)
128MB of RAM
Now we officially don't know the specs of the wii but the cpu is at least faster then 450MHz and the ram should be 128MB.

As for Nintendo don't want to create there own competition. users will own a PC any way so they can play flash games with a keyboard so that excuse is really not a good one.

Only 1.3 Mb? In download or unpacked? Even so, the RAM of the Wii is only 88 Mb - and you shouldn't forget it's just for running Flash - you're not running the opera browser included in those 128 Mb. I'm pretty sure they won't get Flash 9 included (could be licensing too - to be fair, Adobe didn't publish it for Wii, now did they?). Just because I know Nintendo isn't all up-to-date - and about the competition thing, I'm sure it's because of that reason. Why would Nintendo give you the possibility to assign keys to the buttons on controllers? Then they coulmd just have made all their cotnroller USB-compatible so you can play them through normal computers. Stupid idea in the first place, mapable buttons - there's no use for it. The most they will do is add USB keyboard support, but I higly doubt that.

[shade]

Only 1.3 Mb? In download or unpacked? Even so, the RAM of the Wii is only 88 Mb - and you shouldn't forget it's just for running Flash - you're not running the opera browser included in those 128 Mb.

eh? talking about running a flash file embedded in a web page, so you got flash, the web browser and the whole darn OS running in background, that is what the 128MB is running, not just the flash file. Unpacked Flash 9 is still not a very big size and you don't know for sure if the ram of the Wii is 88MB
But you could be right about it being a license issue.

Keyboard button assignement is a good feature, i am not the only one who would like to see it, might not happen but it would be great.

[DCK]

This discussion is silly.

Flash 9 is possible on Wii.
Java is not.

Flash will likely be updated, but Java probably won't be there. None of the Opera Device browsers seem to have it, so neither will the Wii version.

[Atomic Boo]

I dont know why everyone is slating the PS3 as though its a competition between it and the Wii. It doesnt matter anyway, all that matters is if you buy one that you're happy with it,not how many other systems are sold.

I bet everyone here would secretly like a PS3, but laugh at its 'unsuccessful' launch.

[shade]

Boo did you just post in the wrong thread?

[Atomic Boo]

Boo did you just post in the wrong thread?

Oops i think i did :confused:

[conzer16]

http://us.wii.com/story_internet.jsp

Hey folks, a detailed look at what the Final version of the Internet Channel contains has been posted over at the US Wii.com, by the channel's very own Dev team.

It contains details and videos of upgraded tool bars to search functions and various zoom levels etc.

[Emasher]

they've said that there will not be keyboard support in this version but it may be possible in the future.

no comments about plug ins though