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Meo
09-10-2005, 01:40 PM
I feel this is a very important message for all the DS community and DS owners. This quote is from the website http://www.tehskeen.net :

"DarkFader, the person who cracked the Nintendo DS, was behind the creation of the NeoFlash, the MAN who ran the Nintendo DS ROM release group GST (Golden Sun Team) has released a small program that will erase your Nintendo DS firmware, GBAMP firmware and/or your SuperCard Firmware and the release appears to be supported and endorsed by the DSDEV (#dsdev on EFNET IRC) community of dev's (who most recieve free NeoFlash devkits). This Bricker does not destroy NeoFlash carts? Could there possibly be any correlation?

The code used in the original bricking application has been ripped and now is being added to other homebrew and roms so if you run one without checking it first you'll end up with a dead Nintendo DS, GBAMP and/or SuperCard. This is a very counter-productive move on the Nintendo DS's Development Community as their code to disrupt piracy (which they helped create) is now being used in their own programs! Currently there is no way to test for this bricking code!

Just image going to run NESDS and having your Nintendo DS die! Luckily, if you use the FlashMe Firmware replacement for the Nintendo DS you can recover from this deadly attack by booting up the system any holding "A+B+START+SELECT" then loading the Firmware from a flashcart other then your SuperCard (as it's most likely been destroyed)."

Since this is the very first attack to the DS community (unlike PSP, which has already 2 brick codes), I find this attack a bit... disturbing.
I'm strongly against piracy, but this attack against the homebrew developers is outrageous. I do support and admire the homebrew development that some of the talented members of this community produce. Strangely, this attack was made by Darkfader, the man who made possible all of the "indie" development.

My advice is that, incase you own a supercard or a GBA movie player (If I were you, I would also be careful with the G6 and M6 cards), DO NOT run any homebrew games or applications unless you are totally sure of their source and quality, until someone releases a program that enables you to check this files.

Please, I beg you to bare in mind that Homebrew Development is VERY, VERY different from piracy, and that homebrew developers do not support piracy in anyway.
Peachie
09-10-2005, 01:59 PM
Wowww that sucks.

Not like it'll affect me though, so I don't really care.
demonmike04
09-10-2005, 02:06 PM
I dont use homebrew. I dont download roms. But those who do download roms its serves them right for downloading piracy instead of actualy buying games. What goes around comes around.
Peachie
09-10-2005, 02:12 PM
Did you even read it... ?

I dont use homebrew. I dont download roms. But those who do download roms its serves them right for downloading piracy instead of actualy buying games. What goes around comes around.


Please, I beg you to bare in mind that Homebrew Development is VERY, VERY different from piracy, and that homebrew developers do not support piracy in anyway.
Meo
09-10-2005, 02:26 PM
I dont use homebrew. I dont download roms. But those who do download roms its serves them right for downloading piracy instead of actualy buying games. What goes around comes around.

Yes, you are right about that. I don't support piracy either. In fact, I think that, despite this move beeing to much agressive, this action is a great move to prevent piracy. But, this damages the homebrew scene,and I don't think that such tallented developers that create great pieces of software, without any official SDK, just using their own home-made tools, should be put in the same wagon and "damaged" because of others "addiction to piracy".
DCK
09-10-2005, 02:37 PM
Latest news/rumour is that it's a lie by someone who doesn't like homebrew. This Darkfader guy has built quite a reputation hacking the DS allowing people to experiment with the hardware and start up pretty cool projects such as Linux on DS turning into a PDA and NES emulators. I doubt he'd want to destroy that with a nasty program like that.
Meo
09-10-2005, 02:48 PM
Latest news/rumour is that it's a lie by someone who doesn't like homebrew. This Darkfader guy has built quite a reputation hacking the DS allowing people to experiment with the hardware and start up pretty cool projects such as Linux on DS turning into a PDA and NES emulators. I doubt he'd want to destroy that with a nasty program like that.

Yes, I don't even believe that Darkfader did such thing. He opened the way to homebrew development, and I find it a bit weird that he did such thing. But, all proves points towards him. I you check this LINK (http://www.tehskeen.net/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=578) , you will find a log made in the DS development channel in IRC, were he usually is with others developers. If you have patience enough, it is a very interesting reading :D lol, with some broken NDS along the way...
demonmike04
09-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Did you even read it... ?

Yes i did read it. Did you even read my post? If you actualy payed attention you would of read: But those who do download roms its serves them right for downloading piracy instead of actualy buying games. What goes around comes around.

So, you learn to read, dont accuse me of not doing so.
Peachie
09-10-2005, 08:58 PM
Yes i did read it. Did you even read my post? If you actualy payed attention you would of read: But those who do download roms its serves them right for downloading piracy instead of actualy buying games. What goes around comes around.

So, you learn to read, dont accuse me of not doing so.

I s'pose, but it comes across differently because you just randomly started talking about roms out of nowhere, even though it has nothing to do with this.
MikeMania
10-10-2005, 12:09 AM
i don't get how the bricking program is being "added" to the homebrew applications...

say i get my homebrew stuff from a site, why would they let this darkfader guy to edit all the downloads and add them? Or are you saying all the homebrew developers are supporting this and make programs and then destroy them? which is pretty pointless?
Meo
10-10-2005, 08:42 AM
i don't get how the bricking program is being "added" to the homebrew applications...

say i get my homebrew stuff from a site, why would they let this darkfader guy to edit all the downloads and add them? Or are you saying all the homebrew developers are supporting this and make programs and then destroy them? which is pretty pointless?


No, not all homebrew developers are supporting this. The thing is, lots programs that are hosted in websites might be already infected by this malicious code without even knowing. And newer programs, which have not yet been released, are also under that threat. Since, currently, there is no way to detect this code, it is very easy for this people to spread these codes, just by hosting them in websites.

Of course, it is interesting to see that, despite the level of homebrew on the DS beeing smaller than on the PSP, just one piece of bricker code managed to generate a much bigger level of frustration than Darkfader could ever imagine. In no time, there will be applications to check these files and clean them. God, I still can't believe Darkfader, the man who started all the homebrew scene, made something like this...
demonmike04
10-10-2005, 03:27 PM
I s'pose, but it comes across differently because you just randomly started talking about roms out of nowhere, even though it has nothing to do with this.
Suprisingly, it does. Many people have used homebrew devices to play games on there. The DS currently doesnt work with roms with the homebrew devices, but they can play any Gameboy game on their DS with homebrew carts.
MikeMania
10-10-2005, 10:43 PM
it would make more sense if the DS rom games were infected with this.