View Full Version : Nextgen Zelda - First Person?
Ignite
08-10-2005, 11:57 AM
What does everyone think of this rumor?
I could see it working extremely well with the Revolution controller as a sword etc.
Imagine how lush the enviroments will look on the Revolution in first person
DiemetriX
08-10-2005, 12:41 PM
I want a normal Zelda.. Every body wants a normal Zelda. But i guess it would be good.. and offcourse i would buy it :)
Wesley
08-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Zelda to be a RTS game.
What does everyone think of this rumor?
Hostile
08-10-2005, 01:14 PM
Zelda to be a RTS game.
What does everyone think of this rumor?
I like it. Set it just before the fall of Hyrule, the dark monsterous forces of Ganondorf versus the might of the Hyrulian army, the ninjas of the Gerudo, the weaponsmiths of the Gorons, the amphibious Zoras and the elite Sheikah. Each team with their own megapowerful heroes and summonable creatures.
Shit yes I would play that game.
With regards to the first person thing, I don't like the idea but I'd give it a go.
Enigma
08-10-2005, 01:25 PM
As a FP game, why not. It went real well on Metroid.
As a RTS game, No. I wouldn´t like that.
Monopolyman
08-10-2005, 01:32 PM
Well, if the FP idea was just used in dungeons, I think it might be pretty good. I'd be intereseted in what the puzzles and bosses would be like and all, though there may be a problem using the boomerang, because we don't want to be throwing our controllers around are rooms (assuming that the motion sensor is used to direct how Link's items are used).
Anyway, as we seem to be adding rumours about the new LoZ now, I might aswell input something.
The next-gen zelda will be Zelda DDR, and you have to outdance Ganon to defeat him. What do you think of that rumour?
The Peeps
08-10-2005, 01:52 PM
Maybe it should just go FP when you get your sword out... but how would you use your shield? Might get messy with the controls.. maybe two controllers :D one for shield and one for sword hehe.
I like it. Set it just before the fall of Hyrule, the dark monsterous forces of Ganondorf versus the might of the Hyrulian army, the ninjas of the Gerudo, the weaponsmiths of the Gorons, the amphibious Zoras and the elite Sheikah. Each team with their own megapowerful heroes and summonable creatures.
Shit yes I would play that game.That idea makes me... very comfortable. Give the license to the Creative Assembly. Or Blizzard.
YenRug
08-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Maybe it should just go FP when you get your sword out... but how would you use your shield? Might get messy with the controls.. maybe two controllers :D one for shield and one for sword hehe.
Teensy bit late with the suggestion, I'm afraid:
http://www.revo-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=904&postcount=6
The Peeps
08-10-2005, 02:10 PM
I'm not really bothered if I didn't think of it first, just shows that it's a good idea and that other people think the same things as me :)
Retro_Link
08-10-2005, 02:17 PM
What does everyone think of this rumor?
Just to clarify, that rumour is for the DS version of Zelda!
Don't think i'd like a First Person Zelda on Rev (if they want to experiment with it on DS then that's fine by me)! I'd be happy with a number of First Person elements should they want to include them, especially because of the controller; such as the standard First Person Bow and Arrow, Hookshot etc.. and perhaps fishing, some swordfights, some FP puzzles etc...
But not the whole game!!
I don't think we'll ever see a FPS Zelda. The DS version probably has point & touch elements (or something else really adding to the series) and if it works out OK they'll probably put it in the Rev version as well.
Wesley
08-10-2005, 03:19 PM
Damn.
That last post was me making a point.
I just made it up completely to show the fact that the thread starter didn't post any sort of source and it came from his ass.
Just like me saying: "what does everyone think about the whole Hitman series being remade for the Revolution?".
gaggle64
08-10-2005, 03:46 PM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we saw a FP Zelda - it would make sense with the DS touch screen. Maybe with the Revo too. The controller sword slashing - functionanlity as seen in the video would make it cool.
MikeMania
08-10-2005, 03:46 PM
no, no , no, zelda is zelda because its a 3rd person adventure, doing your rolls and your shield blocks, and lock on sword slashes... even if its a good game, it won't really be zelda.
gaggle64
08-10-2005, 03:47 PM
no, no , no, zelda is zelda because its a 3rd person adventure, doing your rolls and your shield blocks, and lock on sword slashes... even if its a good game, it won't really be zelda.
Thats what they all said about Resi4 though.
Hostile
08-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Damn.
That last post was me making a point.
I know. :P I'm pretty sure he got the rumour from Rev-Europe's news post on the next Zelda, so I decided to bypass your point (which was still a pretty good point) and make something bizarre up instead.
That idea makes me... very comfortable. Give the license to the Creative Assembly. Or Blizzard.
Hell yes, Blizzard would rock that out. Then they'd probably go and make World of Zelda or something equally as awesome. :P
Ignite
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
I just made it up completely to show the fact that the thread starter didn't post any sort of source and it came from his ass.
Umm yeah dude.... ****.
www.computerandvideogames.com
'Quite what all that means is anybody's guess at the moment, but we can't quite shake the feeling that we might just be looking at some sort of first-person Zelda trickery, where you'll roam Hyrule looking through Link's eyes and manipulate your surroundings using the stylus. Of course, we might be entirely wrong here, but we've been wondering if this is the direction Aonuma intends to take the series ever since Miyamoto announced that Twilight Princess would be the last outing for Zelda as we know it.'
daftada
08-10-2005, 06:51 PM
If you think about it in terms of game structureMetroid and Zelda are very similar and have been since their inception (albeit from different viewpoints) so for Zelda to go the way of Metroid Prime would't be such a bad thing. And with the Revs controller i'm sure Nintendo would make it work incredibly well.
Zelda should stay 3rd person, 1st person would just be :-/
For example, Turok should have been 3rd person, I mean, who the hell though of putting that much jumping in a 1st person game. Yes, I know zelda has auto jump, but it just wouldnt be the same.
mario114
08-10-2005, 07:00 PM
The Zelda series has changed many times to stay new and inative, so i wouldn't be suprissed if it went through some big changes on the rev. just as long as the keep the same attention to detail and great gameplay.
YenRug
08-10-2005, 09:31 PM
www.computerandvideogames.com
'Quite what all that means is anybody's guess at the moment, but we can't quite shake the feeling that we might just be looking at some sort of first-person Zelda trickery, where you'll roam Hyrule looking through Link's eyes and manipulate your surroundings using the stylus. Of course, we might be entirely wrong here, but we've been wondering if this is the direction Aonuma intends to take the series ever since Miyamoto announced that Twilight Princess would be the last outing for Zelda as we know it.'
That definitely comes under the category of "extrapolation" rather than "rumour", though. C&VG are simply looking at the suggestion of one game's direction and using it to predict the possibility of another game's direction. Now if there was the old, "OMGZ!!!1111 Sum1 @ Nintendo told me Zelda's gone FPS!!!!!!11111 ONE ONE", then it would most certainly be a rumour.
kav82
08-10-2005, 09:38 PM
I don't like the idea of a FP Zelda to be honest, or RTS for that matter, the Zelda franchise has been the epitamy of action/adventure games for so long they just feel at home there!
Wesley
08-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Umm yeah dude.... ****.
www.computerandvideogames.com
'Quite what all that means is anybody's guess at the moment, but we can't quite shake the feeling that we might just be looking at some sort of first-person Zelda trickery, where you'll roam Hyrule looking through Link's eyes and manipulate your surroundings using the stylus. Of course, we might be entirely wrong here, but we've been wondering if this is the direction Aonuma intends to take the series ever since Miyamoto announced that Twilight Princess would be the last outing for Zelda as we know it.'
EDIT:
Let's put it in a more pleasent way.
You did not put a source in your original post.
Hence my comment.
No need to be calling anyone ****.
dazzybee
08-10-2005, 10:24 PM
I'm sure you've been called worse than ****, I think it's actually a pretty thing to be called.
Anyways, I think the logical look at this is that when you hold the (a) trigger it pulls behind Link into a 1st person/directly behind the shoulder view where the remote becomes the sword and you can have a more immersive control in the world.
A completely 1st person game would HAVE to be br tried out in a spin-off or in a completely new ip with the (crafty) idea of using it for a new Zelda title!
Also, who likes the idea of removing the Zelda title and calling the games the adventures of Link!?! Or somethingorother!?! The Zelda plot device is getting slightly stale!
Wesley
08-10-2005, 10:27 PM
I'm sure you've been called worse than ****, I think it's actually a pretty thing to be called.
Interesting.
Still annoyed me though because he didn't post a source and then acts like my comment was bullshit.
triforce_keeper
08-10-2005, 10:31 PM
zelda=3rd person thankyou i am now going to bed
Shenlong
08-10-2005, 10:35 PM
I don't know i can't really imagine it properly, but i guess if the DS game is going to be done like so, we'll get a pretty good idea of what it'll be like (bar the control scheme). It doesn't sound all that good to me though, i mean quite a lot of things to still be considered i'd prefer it if like you could use the analogue add on to move link about and just use the remote to swing the sword, the whole change in camera angle just doesn't seem right. But hey it could work you never know!
I mean, who the hell though of putting that much jumping in a 1st person game.Retro Studios. Can't remember the game. Metrode? Me... Metroid?
Meh.
Hostile
09-10-2005, 03:32 AM
Rofl Rolf.
God I'm sick of having to lock my view down just to make those fucking platform jumps.
kav82
09-10-2005, 03:48 AM
HA HA! That's brilliant Rolf!!!
I find it really easy to make the jumps int the Prime series, it just seems natural, you automatically look downwards as you're descending on it. It works so well!
killer kirby
09-10-2005, 04:08 AM
i don't think the revolution Zelda will be in first person, nor will be the zelda that we know of it today, shigsy said that the gamecube zelda that is coming out will be the last of it's type. and he also wanted to make new genres for the revolution, ones that have never been thought of, i am 100% sure that nintendo will suprise us with the revolution version of zelda on how it is going to be played. remember when nintendo suprised us with the realistic version of zelda at E3 2004.
Maiky-NiSuTe
09-10-2005, 08:27 AM
:woops::eek:Now if this is trew Nintendo has just started on the first Zelda FLOP. That game isnt gona sell even if it comes with free banana's :hmm:
KingOfHyrule
09-10-2005, 09:33 AM
I think I'd cry if Zelda went FP! There's no reason why Zelda can't stay in 3rd person and you just have full control over the items as it is, the Revolution controller can allow that without having to go FP.
Jamba
09-10-2005, 10:31 AM
I know Iwata was talking about Zelda being taken from a "different perspective" but do you really need to be 1FP to slash the sword around?
I mean honestly, why cant you just be in 3rd person and use the sword? It might be a little harder to judge your slashes but it would still be more zelda-eeey...
Maybe they are going to take the perspective from RE4, that would rock. It would make the dungeons waaay more tense plus you would still get all that accuracy and control.
Maybe it is time to say good-bye to the good old "Z targetting" created for ocarina of time. It was a monument in 3D gaming progression but sometimes we must move on...
scottish_nintendo_fan
09-10-2005, 11:42 AM
I think a FP Zelda game could work if done properly. I would like to see how Nintendo would go about making this game before I started critisizing it. It doesn't sound like the best direction to take the franchise but like I said, it could work - it's Nintendo after all.
A Zelda FPS, come on... Tell me how it'd work. What is the improvement over third person? It would simply kill the game, and probably a part of the series with it. Third person is what makes Zelda Zelda. The first person rumour is probably the result of lack of imagination.
I kept on imagining FPS Zelda in my head and I simply won't see how it'd work and only see the dissappointment of how it would crush the series. Sorry, I think Nintendo'll also see that Zelda is absolutely not suited for this. Maybe they'll but sword swinging with stylus/Rev controller in, or point & touch elements like I said before. But not FPS.
The FPS idea could be a very good game but why mangle the Zelda series for that? Remember the criticism the Wind Waker got, when it only was graphics? If they pull down DS Zelda to the likes of The Elder Scrolls (not comparable, but hey), I don't want to hear the entire gaming community coming down on Nintendo. I have no doubt though that Nintendo won't even try though.
Charlie
09-10-2005, 05:22 PM
i don't think the revolution Zelda will be in first person, nor will be the zelda that we know of it today, shigsy said that the gamecube zelda that is coming out will be the last of it's type. and he also wanted to make new genres for the revolution at E3 2004.
Yeah, from now on we're going to get games like...
The Legend of Zelda: Pinball
The Legend of Zelda: Tetris
The Legend of Zelda: Breakout
The Legend of Zelda: Asteroids
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I would love a FP Zelda, it would feel like you're actually in the game more, using the controller as a sword etc
If that happens Ill kill myself.....
Cheapshot
10-10-2005, 09:00 AM
I think it's quite a good idea -- the game would certainly be more immersive than before.
Link has always been an "empty shell"; there is no need to see the back of him really.
Maverick
10-10-2005, 08:31 PM
You should be able to switch between both 3rd and 1st person.
xanikseo
10-10-2005, 09:30 PM
I think that if Nintendo do decide to have FP Zelda, it would not be the (how would you say this) "main" Zelda game for the Revo; like Four Swords Adventures was not as big a hit as Wind Waker. If they do FP Zelda it would probably be called "Link's Moves" or somat (not as crap a name though :P).
King_Mushroom
11-10-2005, 01:23 AM
if they want to experiment, why not just create a new franchise?
kav82
11-10-2005, 01:24 AM
if they want to experiment, why not just create a new franchise?
Yes! Please do! Don't play with our beloved Zelda too much!
I really don't care what they do with it. Zelda always has and always will be the greatest franchise. I have every Zelda game ever made (except the ones on the panasonic 3d0 i think it was) and they are all amazing. I trust Nintendo and I know they won't go wrong!
Link has always been an "empty shell"; there is no need to see the back of him really.
There's a certain literary value to Link's everlasting silence if that's what you mean. It makes you feel like you are the hero because Link (and Samus too) doesn't express thoughts to replace what you think of the situation - your thoughts are Link's thoughts, you are the hero.
Konfucius
11-10-2005, 02:42 PM
I also don't want a FP Zelda.
In 3rd Person Link seems like a puppet to me and I can see what he is doing, I see how he talks to people and I see how he faces enemies and all the time I know it's me who is doing these things or better: I'm making him do it, I'm the puppeteer.
I guess the 3rd Person perspektive makes me think I have to care for him. In FPS I never have this feeling, I have the feeling I must kill that enemy and if my character is killed I have the feeling I'm Game Over (=killed) now which often results in me turning off the console/PC but in 3rd Person I'm the spectator and so it's no "me" who was killed and I try that part multiple times.
Besides that I didn't like the FP parts (shooting arrows and boomarang) in OOT and TWW, sure it's often quite useful for precise aiming but you don't see so much of the environment anymore and I think swordfighting with the Revo controller is also possible in 3rd person and the overview in 1st person isn't nearly as good.
Another thought that came to my mind some days ago: Link is left-handed so do we have to take the controller in the left hand?
Mizuti
11-10-2005, 05:28 PM
A first person Zelda would make me sell my Gamecube for a chocolate bar...maybe two:unsure:
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