Wii's got game. New Madden 07 screens!

[OVERLORD]

Sorry if this has been already posted.

Saw this posted originally here http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44368

New screens:-

http://www.ngcfrance.com/news.php?op...0&idx=6041&r=1

http://previews.operationsports.com/...me=madden07wii

See IGN for comparison http://uk.media.wii.ign.com/media/82...43/imgs_1.html

Looks like EA got out Mr. Sheen. Looks more polished.

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Ill post the screens and comparisons if you dont mind.

New screens:
http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/wii/madden_nfl_07/scr_081.jpg
http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/wii/madden_nfl_07/scr_098.jpg

Old screens:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5325/maddennfl0720060928091528609nv0.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9562/maddennfl07200609280915kz2.jpg

And the proper links to the stuff above:
http://zonaforo.meristation.com/blargh (http://zonaforo.meristation.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=626888&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
http://www.ngcfrance.com/blargh/ (http://www.ngcfrance.com/news.php?operande=0&idx=6041&r=1)
http://previews.operationsports.com/blargh/ (http://previews.operationsports.com/previews.aspx?game=madden07wii)

[Stefkov]

wow thats the Wii screens?!? I thought they were comparisons between 360 and Wii...
I want this version of the game now..not he 360 one, i love throwing a ball aound, this will be so cool.

[xernobyl]

What about men sports like rugby?
:P

[conzer16]

What about men sports like rugby?
:P

Or a soccer* game? Will we see a soccer game on Wii? Now that the DS has Pro-Evo6 is there a possibility of a Pro Wii-vo! (sorry...)

*I am by no means calling soccer a man's sport by the way :p

[James McGeachie]

Are the above screens really Wii version? They really look like 360 version...

[The3rdChildren]

Those aren't Wii screens. Not a chance.

[James McGeachie]

Yeah it has to be a mistake like them sending out generic "Madden 07" shots and the sites putting them in the Wii section. It looks on par if not above the 360 version with the clothing shading and everything....the models seem a good deal higher poly than Wii and the most recent Wii videos I've seen are from mid October and look nowhere NEAR as good as these new screens.

I'll believe it if IGN or some other site with a seriously "in the know" Wii section puts them up.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I'm not good with judging screenshots, but if you guys watch a bit of that Gamespot marathon, they spend some time playing through this. To me, it looked good, but i'm really not good at comparing screens to video, so judge for yourself. :heh:

[James McGeachie]

Watched the Gamespot video and they definitely aint real screens. The guys in the video specifically say the game looks "around par with the Xbox build" referring definitely to original Xbox.

[Teppo Holmqvist]

Well, I have now browsed through over 200 Madden 07 promo pictures for Xbox 360 / PS3. None of these pictures were featured on any major gaming site (IGN, 1UP, Gamespot), so I'm really wondering where these are from. EA's Wii team said during october they are going to revamp game's graphics, but I really doubt these are from Wii version.

[blender]

if you watch the goal celebration replays in mario soccer, you get similarly good graphics.

It is very easy to achieve when you turn physics, ai and other gameplay mechanics off.

These are not gameplay graphics. So not particially interesting really :(

[bencallis]

http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/wii/madden_nfl_07/scr_066.jpg

I don't think these can be wii screens. The crowd and other people on the sideline are all 3d and in these types of games I wouldnt be expecting massive of extra 3d objects in the distance(like corwds in footbal games etc).
If this is wii then well done EA they have always been good in the graphics deparment.

I know we all hope it is Wii screenshots but comparing it to everything we have seen its not likely. IS the resolution of these screens not to big for sd widescreen?

[Teppo Holmqvist]

I don't think these can be wii screens. The crowd and other people on the sideline are all 3d and in these types of games...

Well, even old (real?) Wii version screenshots feature 3D audience (albeit simple). For comparision, Mario Strikers Charged's crowd is also fully 3D, not just flat textures. And TBH, only major improvement in the substeinar's pictures is better grass texture (which doesn't even feature bump mapping or any other fancy effects).

[Gaijin von Snikbah]

Ima gonna high five Teppo here. I expected the 360 version to look better than those screens. And there are some low detailed textures in those pics.

[bencallis]

Well, even old (real?) Wii version screenshots feature 3D audience (albeit simple). For comparision, Mario Strikers Charged's crowd is also fully 3D, not just flat textures. And TBH, only major improvement in the substeinar's pictures is better grass texture (which doesn't even feature bump mapping or any other fancy effects).

Maybe your right:bowdown:

Lighting compared to the old screens has been completely revamped. If this is the Wii versoin well done EA. I wouldnt expect this from their 1st wii Madden game. Im still unsure on the masses of 3d corwds and people on the side lines seems a hell of a lot of polygons. I suppose it is only a reply.

Here is a screen of the 07 for normal xbox

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/721/721527/madden-nfl-07-20060727045445792.jpg

If the above screen are wii screen wel that should make people stop calling it a xbox.

[DCK]

Uhm, I'm quite undecided to cheer or doubt these screenshots. The level of detail (textures, shading, poly count) is that of the 360 and I'm quite sure the Wii couldn't handle that on the IGN specs - we need confirmation. Then again, I doubt Mario Galaxy is intended to be giving us the Wii's full power, so there must be some awesome things possible.

Anyway, the controls for this game make it awesome as is.

[Cube]

I don't think these can be wii screens. The crowd and other people on the sideline are all 3d and in these types of games I wouldnt be expecting massive of extra 3d objects in the distance(like corwds in footbal games etc).
If this is wii then well done EA they have always been good in the graphics deparment.

The people in the crowd are not 3D, just the people on the sidelines.

[Stefkov]

Uhm, I'm quite undecided to cheer or doubt these screenshots. The level of detail (textures, shading, poly count) is that of the 360 and I'm quite sure the Wii couldn't handle that on the IGN specs - we need confirmation. Then again, I doubt Mario Galaxy is intended to be giving us the Wii's full power, so there must be some awesome things possible.

Anyway, the controls for this game make it awesome as is.

Agreed on both counts, those graphics look to good for the Wii, he facial expression on that guy diving just doesnt look as if the Wii could do that. If it is Wii then frick.

The controls are whats selling me this game.

[Dilli Gee]

It's pre-rendered. The first few anyway.

[Nintendork]

Not Wii for shit unless it's FMV (which means nothing)

[Hellfire]

I don't get why you people think's it's a FMV, but whatever

[DCK]

I don't get why you people think's it's a FMV, but whatever
Because as far as we know the Wii is supposed to be, quite literally, a GameCube x1.5 and it's not supposed to be able to do that. Either that's FMV or our knowledge is outdated (I'm hoping for the latter).

[triforcemario]

Remember, Nintendo have said many times that the Wii is very much a capable console, and it can do some very beautiful graphics, this is obviously a sign that Nintendo were telling the truth.

[Caris]

Those aren't Wii screens. Not a chance.

Qft, the top are 360/PS3 bottom are Wii/N64.

[Stefkov]

ps2
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/705/705680/madden-nfl-07-20060508024019167.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/705/705680/madden-nfl-07-20060508024020370.jpg
"Wii"
http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/wii/madden_nfl_07/scr_081.jpg
http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/wii/madden_nfl_07/scr_098.jpg
i really really doubt it. It will be nicer that the PS2 probably but that much.....naaaaaa
(tried to find as close as possible pics)
Just look at the grass, and the smoothness of the players.

[Fresh]

I'm still not sure. They have said all along that the wii will be capable of good stuff. But those pictures....

[DCK]

It'd be nice if we'd have some comparison. The Wii has no game that gets to that level of graphics (maybe SMG but the style is incomparable) so I'll be skeptical until conformation.

If this comes out to be true (and keeping up a decent 30 fps with that), that will be awesome indeed - that means that the gap 360/PS3 <> Wii is much smaller than expected, and better graphics is an improvement.

For reference, these are 360 shots:
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/726/726977/madden-nfl-07-20060821065316913.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/726/726977/madden-nfl-07-20060821065325616.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/726/726977/madden-nfl-07-20060821065405256.jpg
Take away HD and they're exactly the same - the "Wii" shots smell like scaled 360 shots to me.

[Caris]

There exactly the same.

[flameboy]

Madden was on the gamespot marathon as fierce_link said and whilst it looked good it didnt look as good as these screens, they have to be fmv or pre-rendered or something.

[Strange Cookie]

If those are Wii-shots, I'll eat my hat. And I'm not fond of that prospect, because I quite like my hat.

It's the "Let's put the best-looking shots of the best-looking version on all boxes"-strategy that EA is so eager to use.

[flameboy]

I have to say I am getting more and more interested in buying this at launch, I don't have a clue how american football works but with a lack of any other sports titles out that I want (wii sports not counting) this is appealing to me, I did used to have madden on my megadrive and despite not really understanding it, did kinda enjoy it.

[flameboy]

sorry for double post, but this got reviewed by IGN on saturday and they seemed to love it:

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/746/746697p1.html

wondering what UK gamers views are on american football games, I am well into my serious sports title, but the lack of Pro Evo or Fifa is causing me to think about trying a new sport, my bro is into NFL and says its simple and the game should be good,are the rules hard to understand cos I think this is the biggest thing thats putting me off, that I won't understand the rules lol!

[Nintendork]

The 360 blows the Wii away, I've never played Madden so perhaps the control scheme is stagnant.
I can't see any reason why anyone would wanna play Madden Wii.

[flameboy]

The 360 blows the Wii away, I've never played Madden so perhaps the control scheme is stagnant.
I can't see any reason why anyone would wanna play Madden Wii.
people that dont have a 360 maybe!?

[Zero Seven]

people that dont have a 360 maybe!?

I think he ment gamers who may have the choice between the 360 version and Wii version.

[Nintendork]

Oh I can't afford a 360 11 months after launch, I better just give up saving and buy a Nintendo Wii instead.
Of course there will be people who get this as a present from budgetting parents.. and that excludes any choice so is exempt.

But core 360s are not that much more expensive now. $50 bucks more at the very most.

[flameboy]

Oh I can't afford a 360 11 months after launch, I better just give up saving and buy a Nintendo Wii instead.
Of course there will be people who get this as a present from budgetting parents.. and that excludes any choice so is exempt.

But core 360s are not that much more expensive now. $50 bucks more at the very most.

never said I couldn't afford one, just not interested in getting one as aside from the flashy graphics there isn't much im interested in getting, GOW looks amazing but aside from that there isn't any other killer apps that make me desperate to get one, whereas there is with the Wii.

and whats the point in getting a core, its not good value for money at all.

[Nintendork]

I was talking hypothetically when you said "people who can't afford one"
A core system is great value for money when you consider Microsoft is upgrading the hard drive to 80gb in the near future (because 20gb is not enough)

The kind of people who have to get a core system don't have a HD TV, and don't need wireless controllers.

[flameboy]

i don't think it is good value for money when you see all the bundles you can get with the premium pack at the mo..4 games and remote for £350 at some places. and 20gb is more than enough for some people.

anyway lets not argue, this thread is about madden lets not forget.

[Nintendork]

No the thread is about the army of people who buy Madden every year for better graphics. It's what they expect:

"As a hard core madden player for years i can tell you that NO ONE is going to be really taking Wii Madden seriously. You won't see any Wii madden tourneys ever. Madden player aren't the type of guys that will be buying Wii's. Sad but true. Think I'm joking? Head over to maddenauthority.com and ask about the Wii and see how bad you get laughed at."

Fanboy? Perhaps.. but he has a point.

[flameboy]

ah right...now your point is taken more. I'm guessing that EA dont really expect to sell the Wii version to the hardcore Madden fans, but for everyone else picking a wii, its just helping to broaden the consoles range of software, which surely can't be a bad thing? so with this in mind surely it doesn't matter what the hardcore Madden fans think?

[Nintendork]

That's what confuses me. They've actually put effort into this game.. it doesn't look bad.
Matt says they have really refined the control scheme.

It's akin to asking a Fifa kid to buy a GameCube to play it on.. the GameCube was cheaper.. but Fifa kids wanted a PS2 or an XBOX to play it on.

Nintendo still has that perception of being a kids console.. one demographic it won't win over (unless it has done already with people like us) is teenage males.

It does indeed give the impression a Wii is an inclusive console.. and it does amaze me that even Madden on the PSP can almost outdo something like New Super Mario Bros. http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6156468

The top 3 spots are taken by the PS2, XBOX and 360.

[BlueStar]

Interesting to see IGN giving the Wii version of madden a higher score than the PS3 version.

[flameboy]

That's what confuses me. They've actually put effort into this game.. it doesn't look bad.
Matt says they have really refined the control scheme.

It's akin to asking a Fifa kid to buy a GameCube to play it on.. the GameCube was cheaper.. but Fifa kids wanted a PS2 or an XBOX to play it on.

Nintendo still has that perception of being a kids console.. one demographic it won't win over (unless it has done already with people like us) is teenage males.

It does indeed give the impression a Wii is an inclusive console.. and it does amaze me that even Madden on the PSP can almost outdo something like New Super Mario Bros. http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6156468

The top 3 spots are taken by the PS2, XBOX and 360.

yeah just think EA put all that effort in to make it as accesible as possible as they know some players aren't going to pour over it for hours upon hours, (and for those that do the franchise mode is still there). Its a good technique. I'm fascinated to find out what will happen to fifa on the wii, see if they try and make that innovative or just rely on the classic controller. damn i want a football game for the wii.

[Japapa]

The 360 blows the Wii away, I've never played Madden so perhaps the control scheme is stagnant.
I can't see any reason why anyone would wanna play Madden Wii.

Maybe because Wiis Madden is better/equivalent than 360's madden.. It's all about the controls.. And Wii version controls are much greater that 360 version.

[Stefkov]

I really like the controls in this version. I read the ign review and its a shame that big hit function doesnt work often, it would be really fun to take out your friend while playing using this move.
Still i will get this when my first lot of Wii games are done.